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SridarKHi FWaaS Folks14:00
yushirohi14:00
yushiro#startmeeting fwaas14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr 11 14:00:33 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is yushiro. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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SarathMekalahi all O/14:00
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yushiro#chair SridarK yushiro xgerman njohnston14:00
openstackCurrent chairs: SridarK njohnston xgerman yushiro14:00
cuongnvhi14:00
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chandanc_Hello all14:01
yushiroSridarK, OK, I'll do it today :)14:01
xgerman+114:01
yushiro#topic Pike14:01
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SridarKyushiro: yes ur turn :-)14:01
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yushiroDiscussion with Kevin - go with OVS rather iptables for L2 as neutron will move to OVS support14:02
yushiro#link https://review.openstack.org/36107114:02
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yushirosorry. I missed.  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323971/14:02
yushiroand https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447251/414:02
yushirochandanc_, it's your turn :)14:03
chandanc_I have been doing some tests with the co existance of SG and FWG14:03
xgermancol14:04
xgermancool14:04
yushiroOK14:04
chandanc_as of last update i was able to run the SG and FWG l2 driver side by side14:04
xgermanNice!14:04
chandanc_http://paste.openstack.org/show/606135/14:04
chandanc_some output14:04
yushiroThanks for your link14:05
chandanc_the issue now is to merge the two so that the packet is accepted only when both SG and FWG allows it14:05
SridarKchandanc_: could u maybe do a quick walk thru of the paste ?14:05
chandanc_the driver (both SG and FWG) use 5 tables each14:06
chandanc_sure14:06
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chandanc_1 sec plz14:06
SridarKchandanc_: np14:07
chandanc_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447251/4/neutron_fwaas/services/firewall/drivers/linux/l2/openvswitch_firewall/constants.py14:07
SridarKif u want to put out a google doc later on that is fine too14:07
chandanc_i will send a mail and put up a doc14:07
yushirosounds good.14:07
SridarKok now the significance of the tables is more clear with ur link ^^^14:08
SridarKyes lets take it offline14:08
SridarKthx chandanc_14:08
chandanc_if you look at the constants you will see that 5 tables are used by the driver, ingress base, ingress fw rules, egress base, egress fw rules and the accept table14:08
yushiro(41, 42, 43, 51 and 52)14:08
SridarKchandanc_: yes that helps14:09
chandanc_the FWG uses series tables 40 to 50 series14:09
chandanc_yes14:09
chandanc_and 70 to 80 series is used by SG14:09
chandanc_now we have to chain these tables so that the packet flows though both SG and FWG before being accepted14:10
chandanc_there are some overlap in the rules that me be optimized14:10
SridarKbut by the table allocations the separation is clean14:11
chandanc_but at the same time we have to take care to retain the possibility of running these drivers independently14:11
chandanc_yes SridarK14:11
chandanc_we may have case when fwaas is on enabled or SG is enabled with iptables14:11
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xgerman+114:12
chandanc_we have to decide which of the above combination we will support14:12
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SridarKi wonder if we need to do that14:12
xgermanI am still not sure if kevinb meant all of Neutron was going OVS or just FWaaS14:13
chandanc_i could make some changes to chain the tables, but will need some more playing around14:13
xgermanif it’s the former it will cut down on combinations14:13
SridarKxgerman: i believe it was neutron14:13
xgermanyep14:13
xgermanthat’s my beleive as well but it’s not documented anywhere14:13
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chandanc_sure SridarK, if we can reduce the combination it will help14:13
yushiroso, 1: fw=ovs, sg=ovs  2:fw=ovs, sg=iptables  3:fw=iptables, sg=ovs  4:fw=iptables, sg=iptables14:13
SridarKxgerman: and i recall u also raised this at the PTG for backwards compat esp if we have someone who is running sg with iptables and may not want to make the jump14:14
xgermanyes14:14
xgermanand he said there might be a “hybrid”14:14
xgermanbut they also had migration scripts14:14
chandanc_I will send a detailed mail on the current understanding and the approach i am taking to make the co existance work14:14
xgermanI am ok with not supporting iptables SG14:15
xgermanin our first release14:15
SridarKif we do need to support a sort of hybrid that can be pass 214:15
yushiro2 and 3 is 'hybrid'  as xgerman said.  So, we don't care about that.14:15
SridarKxgerman: +114:15
yushiroxgerman, +114:15
chandanc_xgerman, +114:16
annpyushiro: +114:16
chandanc_i will confirm after testing though :)14:16
SridarKchandanc_: that is good progress thx14:16
SarathMekalaI agree, +114:16
yushiroSo, focusing "1." now, right?14:17
chandanc_thanks SarathMekala14:17
chandanc_1 is my focus now, yushiro14:17
yushirochandanc_, OK. Thanks.14:17
yushiroOK, next.14:18
yushiro#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323971/14:18
yushiroPaddu try to add more UTs in this patch.14:18
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yushiroI'm just testing this patch with default fwg + chandanc_ 's ovs driver patch.14:19
sarathmekala_sorry got disconnected..14:19
chandanc_yushiro, thanks for the pep8 fix14:19
yushiroI found that current l2-agent is missing to update 'status' for default firewall_group.14:19
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yushiroSo, default fwg is 'PENDING_CREATE'.14:20
yushirochandanc_, np14:21
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yushirooops, it's not default fwg turn.  sorry.  What I'd like to say is,,14:21
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yushiroIn L2-agent side, (1) it should be updated 'status' of fwg and  (2) apply default fwg for L2 port.14:22
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yushiroI'm trying to fix (1) and (2)14:22
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SridarKyushiro: yes on the PENDING_CREATE - this may require some rework as the workflow is quite different on L214:24
chandanc_+1 for (2)14:24
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reedip_o/14:24
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yushiroSridarK, OK.  And we need to determine what is 'active' for L2.14:24
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xgermanyes14:25
SridarKyushiro: yes this area may need some rework in general too but lets keep it simple for now to get L2 support in14:25
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yushiroSridarK, sure.  simple means ....  INACTIVE: no ports are associated,  ACTIVE: at least 1 port is associated14:26
xgermanindeed I think we can work with Active/Error right now14:26
SridarKyushiro: yes exactly14:26
xgermanmake sure to have ERROR14:26
reedip_guess I will see the logs to understand whats happening :)14:26
yushiroOK, thanks SridarK and xgerman14:26
yushiroNext14:26
yushiroFix "public" attribute behavior:   #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424534/14:27
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yushirooh, sorry. I forgot to update it.14:27
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yushirovks1 patch has been merged and this patch needs minor change.14:28
SridarK#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451705/ ?14:28
yushiroSridarK, yes.  this is for vks114:28
yushiroaha,14:29
SridarKgood we finally fixed this - somehow early on i think we misunderstood and went thru a lot of unnecessary work :-)14:29
yushiroI think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424534/3  is not necessary14:29
yushirobecause we can filter by using 'shared'  as usual.14:29
xgerman+114:30
vks1yushiro: hi14:30
reedip_Yep that patch may not be required14:30
yushiroOK, I'll abandone this patch.14:30
reedip_but I saw that policy.json has both public and shared14:30
yushirovks1, hi14:30
reedip_we may need to change that14:30
SridarKyushiro: yes it seems so14:30
SridarKreedip_: good point14:30
yushiroreedip_, yes, exactly.14:30
SridarKvks1: do u want to pick that up ?14:30
SridarKvks1: and thanks14:31
reedip_I was thining of removing that , but then I didnt know why we kept it in the first place14:31
SridarKfor bringing shared back to the limelight :-)14:31
xgerman;-)14:31
yushirohttps://github.com/openstack/neutron-fwaas/blob/master/etc/neutron/policy.d/neutron-fwaas.json14:31
yushiroThere are still 'public'14:31
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vks1SridarK: sure14:32
reedip_yeah ...14:32
yushirovks1, Sounds good!  Thank you.14:32
reedip_we need to ditch that yushiro14:32
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SridarKreedip_: +114:32
yushiroreedip_, yeah ~~14:32
reedip_lemme put up a patch, if you dont mind :)14:33
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SridarKreedip_: yes pls :-)14:33
yushiropls14:33
yushiro:)14:33
reedip_done14:33
yushiroOK, next14:34
yushiroNeutron-lib adoption: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421472/14:34
yushiroreedip_, it's your turn :)14:34
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reedip_I just came home :D14:34
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yushiroOh, good :)14:35
reedip_well, boden has published some patches for neutron-lib, I am following those changes up as the latest lib version has been released (1.4.0)14:35
yushiroOK.14:35
reedip_for the patch which njohnston had put up , there are some other dependent patches which I have published14:35
xgermanok, sounds good14:36
reedip_The only thing which was worrying me was that the commmit ID seems to be wrong in this patch, therefore no tests are running14:36
reedip_I will fix that in a minute14:36
yushirogreat.14:36
xgerman+114:36
yushironext is ... Horizon support.14:37
yushiroIs sarathmekala here?14:37
_sarathmekala_yeah14:37
_sarathmekala_I had a discussion with Rob Creswell14:37
_sarathmekala_and generated the plugin structure14:38
_sarathmekala_he is ok with the changes14:38
_sarathmekala_the conclusion is that we can create our own structure inside it14:38
_sarathmekala_so.. in the benefit of time, I am working on the old model for now14:39
xgermanyeah, there was still some discussion how to align repos but consensus is building for each project gettign their own14:39
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_sarathmekala_xgerman, ok14:39
SridarK_sarathmekala_: ok will it be a big jump to get things aligned to commit ?14:39
SridarKfrom the old model that is ?14:39
_sarathmekala_SridarK, it should not be14:40
_sarathmekala_the changes mostly will be align with that structure14:40
_sarathmekala_functionality should be the same14:40
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SridarK_sarathmekala_: ok whichever is easier for u14:40
_sarathmekala_I have fixed the issues i was facing with Rules tab14:40
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SridarKit would be ideal to have the code changes go in by summit time14:41
robcresswell_sarathmekala_: You can use the old structure if you like. It really doesn't matter either way, but the generated one is perfectly valid.14:41
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_sarathmekala_thanks robcresswell14:41
SridarKbut plan B is that we can have some code that can be demo ready14:41
reedip_Hey just a minute14:41
robcresswellIf you run into any bugs or need some reviews before Boston, ping me14:41
_sarathmekala_yes SridarK, I am targetting for that14:41
robcresswellI'll try and fit some time in :)14:41
SridarK_sarathmekala_: ok14:42
_sarathmekala_sure robcresswell, I may need some help during integration14:42
SridarKrobcresswell: thx :-)14:42
yushirogoooood :)14:42
xgerman+114:42
_sarathmekala_I more or less done with Rules tab14:42
_sarathmekala_will send across a patch tomorrow14:42
reedip_sorry for interruption , I think amotoki is discussing http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/115200.html , which is regarding dashboard support for neutron stadium project14:42
_sarathmekala_if anyone has bandwidth they can download and give it a try14:42
SridarKreedip_: yes indeed14:43
SridarKi think we are fairly ok with either (a) or (c) options14:43
_sarathmekala_reedip_, thanks for the link.. will go through it14:43
SridarKbut wanted to think this thru a bit14:43
yushiroThat is long term solution, right?14:44
robcresswellI would recommend A. It fits best with Horizons plugin model, IMO.14:44
SridarKrobcresswell: ok and also release seems to prefer it too14:44
robcresswellSridarK: Yep :)14:45
yushiroI see.14:45
_sarathmekala_thats it from my side14:46
yushirothanks, _sarathmekala_14:46
yushiro#topic FWaaS v214:46
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yushiroPlease discuss only default fwg.14:46
yushiroWe're discussing in mail for that.14:47
yushiroLast week I sent e-mail about default fwg.14:47
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yushiroCan we start step by step from simple implementation?14:48
SridarKyushiro: yes agreed14:48
chandanc_+1 yushiro14:48
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SridarKlet me also respond to u on email14:49
SridarKi had some concerns too14:49
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reedip_yushiro : I agree with the implementation in small amounts14:49
yushiroSridarK, me too.14:49
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yushiroOK, so, let's skip configurable option(enable/disable) for early impl.14:50
yushirowow, 10 minutes left !14:50
yushiro#topic Stadium Compliance14:51
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yushiroreedip_, Is there some update or want to report?14:51
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yushiroOK, next14:52
yushiro#topic performance improvement for v214:52
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cuongnvI got some comments from reedip_ and Cedric and also pushed new code based on that14:53
yushirowill take a look.14:53
cuongnvwaiting for more reviews atm...14:53
cuongnvthank you all for your reviews14:53
yushirolet's review for them.14:53
SridarKcuongnv: i also started looking at it and we should get this in quickly14:54
cuongnvSridarK, yeah14:54
yushiro#topic bugs14:54
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reedip_SridarK : can someone merge the Pike Etherpad contents with the weekly meeting etherpad, so that we can have all information in the same page14:54
reedip_I think a lot of contents for the stadium is in both the etherpads so things may get lost14:54
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SridarKreedip: ok agreed14:55
reedip_sorry, just joined, network issue14:55
SridarKreedip_: yes agreed on the etherpads14:55
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yushiroit's reasonable ;)14:56
yushiro#topic Open Discussion14:56
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yushirosorry for intruppt.14:56
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yushiroSridarK, chandanc_ I'd like to discuss with you about Boston summit presentation.14:56
reedip_just for note: following patches are up for review in neutron-lib for FWaaS : https://review.openstack.org/455422 , https://review.openstack.org/45122914:56
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xgermanIt’s still not clear if we have budget14:56
SridarKyushiro: yes lets do that - we can come up with a first pass and get reviews from others as well14:57
SridarKxgerman: oh really i hope it comes thru14:57
chandanc_+1 SridarK14:57
yushiroI just got "GO sign" from my manager.  I can go to Boston14:57
xgermanawesome!!14:57
chandanc_I will be there14:57
reedip_I wont be there :)14:58
chandanc_:)14:58
reedip_I probably might get married by then :P14:58
SridarKreedip_: and u have more important things :-)14:58
xgermancongrats!!14:58
SridarKyushiro: great14:58
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reedip_xgerman : thanks14:58
annpreedip: congrats14:58
cuongnvreedip_, congrats!14:58
hoangcxWe may also think about team meetup at Forum if possible :-)14:58
SridarKreedip_: if u land up at Boston, u will hear it about for the rest of ur life :-)14:58
chandanc_:)14:58
yushiroI'll presentation with Monasca for logging feature in Monday.  In this presentation, I'll inform audience about fwaas session :)14:59
_sarathmekala_reedip_, Congrats14:59
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yushiroreedip_, congrats!!14:59
chandanc_Congrats reedip_14:59
SridarKhoangcx: +114:59
reedip__sarathmekala, yushiro, chandanc_ cuongnv ,annp : thanks ... SridarK : yeah I know ... !14:59
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xgermanalso FYI I am running for the TC so make sure to vote14:59
yushiroOK, let's keep on discussing openstack-fwaas if possible about summit.14:59
SridarKxgerman: yes will do14:59
xgermanthx15:00
reedip_xgerman : Oh great .. yeah we will do :)15:00
yushiroxgerman, wow!! great15:00
yushiro#endmeeting15:00
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SridarKbye all15:00
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2017/fwaas.2017-04-11-14.00.txt15:00
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chandanc_bye all15:00
yushirobye all15:00
annpbye15:00
cuongnvbye all15:00
_sarathmekala_bye all O/15:00
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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mwhahaha#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-2017041115:01
mwhahahaanyone here today?15:01
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mwhahaha#endmeeting16:24
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"16:24
openstackMeeting ended Tue Apr 11 16:24:04 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:24
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2017/puppet_openstack.2017-04-11-15.01.html16:24
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openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2017/puppet_openstack.2017-04-11-15.01.txt16:24
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2017/puppet_openstack.2017-04-11-15.01.log.html16:24
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gibi#startmeeting nova notification17:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr 11 17:00:24 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova notification)"17:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_notification'17:00
gibio/17:00
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gibitime is up17:09
gibiI will try next week as well :)17:09
gibi#endmeeting17:09
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Apr 11 17:09:36 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)17:09
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2017/nova_notification.2017-04-11-17.00.html17:09
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2017/nova_notification.2017-04-11-17.00.txt17:09
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2017/nova_notification.2017-04-11-17.00.log.html17:09
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