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rosmaitaCourtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat, aavraham, alex_bash13:59
rosmaita#startmeeting glance14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Apr  6 14:00:23 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)"14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'glance'14:00
rosmaita#topic roll call14:00
*** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: glance)"14:00
stevelleo/14:00
hemanthmo/14:00
dharinic\o14:00
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jokke_o/14:01
rosmaitaguess we have a quorum14:01
rosmaitahello everyone14:01
dharinicHello. :)14:02
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rosmaitareminder:14:02
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda14:02
rosmaitaok, first item14:02
rosmaita#topic updates - P-1 deadline14:02
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rosmaitaas hemanthm announced last week, today is the deadline for fixes to get into P-114:03
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rosmaitaunfortunately, there are pypi mirror problems that are causing some of the py35 tests to fail intermittently14:03
rosmaitamordred is running a sync by hand right now14:04
rosmaitaso by the time the meeting is over, things should be back to normal14:04
rosmaitai have a question that i don't have any answers too, though14:04
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rosmaitanameley what to do about glance_store and glanceclient for P-114:05
rosmaitai dropped the ball in setting any priorities for them14:05
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rosmaitai am tempted to wait until P-2 to release new ones?14:05
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rosmaitawondering if there are any contrary opinions14:05
hemanthmwe can look at what changes went in after Ocata and take a call maybe?14:05
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rosmaitai think the problem is that some reviews have been sitting awhile14:06
jokke_So we don't generally need to worry about the milestones in our lib releases unless we need new release for the milestones14:06
rosmaitaso not much new has gone in14:06
jokke_they are not otherwise linked14:06
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rosmaitajokke_: ty14:06
hemanthmno, we don't need to release clients/libraries as per milestones14:06
rosmaitai think there are some current patches up for glanceclient that will be useful for nova14:07
rosmaitaso we could release when ready, out-of-band14:07
rosmaita?14:07
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hemanthmyep14:07
rosmaitaok cool14:07
hemanthmthere's a deadline for client and non-client libraries towards the end of the cycle14:07
hemanthmnothing in between14:07
rosmaitai will be better this time about targeting some fixes for P-2 so we can give the glance_store and glanceclient some love14:07
rosmaitaok, thanks14:08
rosmaita#topic update - spec freeze14:08
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rosmaitajust a reminder that hte spec freeze is next week, for people working on specs14:08
rosmaitathanks for the reviews, things are moving along14:08
rosmaitawe'll talk more in a bit14:08
* jokke_ will spend tomorrow reviewing any outstanding specs14:09
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rosmaitajokke_: there is a special one for you, actually14:09
jokke_:)14:09
rosmaita#topic update - there is no "reverify"14:09
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rosmaitajust a quick reminder for people that missed the email14:10
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rosmaita#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/114828.html14:10
rosmaitayou can only "recheck" on patches now14:10
rosmaitathey're not kidding, either ... i saw a few patches this morning where 'reverify' did nothing14:10
rosmaitaso, just be aware14:11
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rosmaitai went to a qa demo at the PTG where they explained why, but i forget the reasoning14:11
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jokke_rosmaita: thanks for the heads-up14:11
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rosmaitaanyway: "recheck" only!14:11
dharinicThanks rosmaita. I ussed a reverify last night on the cache patch.14:11
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rosmaitadharinic: yes, that's the one i noticed14:11
jokke_sounds like they have some extra resources in the CI pool that needs usage to justify their existence ;)14:12
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dharinicI had an assumption that reverify = recheck + merge.14:12
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jokke_dharinic: no reverify used to skip the check and do just gate, if it succeeded then merge14:13
rosmaitadharinic: there used to be a difference, then they decided to make them the same operation14:13
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rosmaitaand now they've removed the alias14:13
dharinicHmmm, Thanks.14:13
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jokke_recheck used to run (if +W) check, gate and merge14:13
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rosmaitathey had usage data that showed that there wasn't a savings by not running everything14:13
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rosmaitaso now they just run it all all the time14:14
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rosmaitaok, did i ask if anyone else had an announcment? any of the cross-project liasons?14:14
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rosmaitaguess not ... moving along, then14:15
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rosmaita#topic spec review14:15
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rosmaitaok, let's all open the etherpad14:15
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-pike-specs-review14:15
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rosmaitathis is up to date, i just checked everything14:16
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rosmaitawell, was up to date as of beginning of the meeting14:16
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rosmaitafirst, though, i have some concerns i need to express14:16
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rosmaitasome glancers have communicated to me that they will not have time to work on glance, probably starting in the next 2 weeks14:17
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rosmaitai will let them announce when appropriate14:17
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rosmaitabut the reason i bring it up is that we are going to be low on dev-power to finish the cycle14:18
rosmaitaand, we are looking at some cool specs14:18
rosmaitaso i want to make it clear (and guess i should send this out to the ML)14:18
nikhilHow many glancers?14:18
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hemanthmI would say low on review-power too14:19
rosmaitawell, ian is gone, 2 more active peeps14:19
rosmaitahemanthm: ++14:19
rosmaitaalthough, i mean simply agreement there, not that it's a good situation14:19
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rosmaitasorry, i am having trouble typing what is in my brain14:20
rosmaitawhat i want to say is, i believe that the glance policy has been that we accept specs to indicate they are worthy14:20
jokke_I'd like to ask if any of those people has spec proposed to indicate it quick. We do not want to prioritize something over other and end up to the situation where the one we accepted does not have interest to complete and the one we postponed would have got dev just waiting to work on it14:20
rosmaitawe then set priorities on the ones we want to accomplish14:20
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rosmaitaand other stuff is subject to bandwidth14:20
hemanthmrosmaita ++14:21
rosmaitaso being accepted in pike but not prioritized indicates that it mighnt not make it into pike14:21
rosmaitabut then again it could14:21
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rosmaitaand the more reviews you do of other peoples' code, the more likely your stuff is to be reviewed14:21
rosmaitaso to folow up jokke's point14:21
rosmaitathe prioritized specs should be the ones we think can get done14:22
rosmaitathe accepted ones are specs taht we will review subject to bandwith14:22
rosmaitawhat i mean is14:22
rosmaitai don't want to -2 proposals because i;m not sure we can get to them14:22
rosmaitabut, the situation is, we may not get to them14:23
nikhilYeah, accepted merely means or used to mean (whatever) -- "ok" on direction14:23
rosmaitaa complicating factor is that most of us have employers14:23
rosmaitawho may put pressure for stuff to get done14:23
rosmaitaso, i want to be able to approve specs that are good14:23
rosmaitaand then the people working on the spec can facilitate gettting stuff into pike by reviewing other people's patches14:24
rosmaitaespcially, and mostly, the priority items14:24
rosmaita(i think i'm just restating current policy)14:24
jokke_rosmaita: nothing wrong with that ^^14:24
rosmaitai'll put that into an email, i think our meeting time is pretty APAC-unfriendly14:25
rosmaitaok, cool14:25
rosmaitathat being said, let's do a quick runthrough of the spec etherpad (now with helpful links to the patches)14:25
rosmaita451560 needs a core to take a look14:26
rosmaita(someone who is not me or dharinic)14:26
jokke_I'd just like to remind as well that our specs have the key contact point for implementation. So reinforcing what I asked above if we get the key people dropping their glance mic and no replacement found, I'm also happy to propose reverts for those specs to not give false indication that those specs are under work14:26
hemanthmrosmaita: will review that14:27
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rosmaitajokke_: that's a good point, if you've got a spec up and may not be here to complete it, please talk to other people about picking it up14:28
rosmaitai think for today, most of the proposals are pretty good, and don't really require much more review time14:28
rosmaita450621, i think nikhil is working on an update for that one14:29
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rosmaitathat's important because of the security implications14:29
nikhilYeah14:29
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rosmaita206120 is awaiting response14:29
rosmaita442863 - that's the one jokke_ could provide helpful input on14:29
rosmaitait also brings up a question, which i will ask becuase today's agenda is light14:30
rosmaitahow much implementation detail is appropriate for a spec-lite?14:30
rosmaitawe don't want to overprescribe design14:30
rosmaitathis spec points out a way to do it, but my comment is that i'd like to hear a little more14:31
rosmaitaanyway, was wondering if i am asking too much for a lite-spec14:31
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rosmaitaanyway, feedback appreciated when you have some14:33
hemanthmwe shouldn't be limiting ourselves to add detail just because something is a lite-spec vs full spec14:33
jokke_I like that proposal in general, what I would like to ask is that we do not bring in yet another config option and yet another stopfile but we hook into the healthcheck middleware which already has that and config for it14:33
jokke_anyone has strict objections towards that?14:33
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rosmaitajokke_: whould there be a use case for stopping tasks independently of the entire api?14:34
rosmaitai am thinking yes14:34
jokke_rosmaita: so in the usecase the spec is proposing, no14:34
dharinicYes. And for a reviewer, without getting an idea of the implementation feasibility, (either put down on the lite-spec or assumed if obvious), it is tricky to +214:34
stevellethe existing middlware is not appropriate for async operations though14:34
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stevelleI want to avoid adding anything we don't need though14:35
rosmaitaso jokke_ you are thinking the use case is strictly take an entire node out of rotation for upgrade14:35
jokke_stevelle: what I mean is we have via that middleware already one stopfile configured to put the node to maintenance14:35
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jokke_what I'm saying is, that we shoud tap to that same config option/file instead of implementing yet another one14:35
rosmaitajokke_: i think you have a point, all-or-nothing maintenance mode14:35
jokke_rosmaita: that's what the spec lite says14:36
rosmaitaand something more complicated could be done later if there is demand14:36
stevelleare taskflow hosts always going to be running api?14:36
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rosmaitastevelle: that is a good point, there might be dedicated taskflow nodes14:36
stevellejust a thing I want to be sure I don't mistake14:36
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stevellethe taskflow can use the same config I suppose either way14:37
rosmaitawe should continue this discussion on the patch14:37
jokke_stevelle: we have no code up what so ever to do anything else atm. The API of that host might not be available for consumption (FW rules, network separation, etc) but only way to have worker is to run glance-api14:37
rosmaitathanks jokke_ and stevelle14:37
rosmaitaok, 448680 just got updated14:38
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rosmaitaso it needs review ... i've got that one and really like it14:38
jokke_#yeah if it's not felt as horribly awful idea I put review on the patch and we continue there14:38
stevelle+114:38
rosmaitajcook: i think i would prioritize multihash over the downloads spec14:38
jcookrosmaita I just updated that one14:39
rosmaitaok the rest are awaiting responses14:39
rosmaitaexcept for 43658114:39
rosmaitathe db-sync check feature14:39
jcookI'm going to try to get to downloads spec today14:39
rosmaita436581 needs review14:40
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rosmaitai thik hemanth had a concern, though14:41
hemanthmnot a concern14:42
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hemanthmwe are definitely forgetting something we thought we should add to the spec at PTG14:42
rosmaitamaybe more of a scope questions?14:42
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hemanthmyeah, expanding the scope of it14:42
hemanthmI'll spend more time on it but nothing to block the spec14:43
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jokke_so which download you're talking about?14:43
jokke_random access from cache or eliminating multiple downloads of uncached?14:43
hemanthmredundant downloads spec I think14:43
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jcookoh me, yeah redundant downloads14:44
rosmaitai have a scope question about the radom-access spec (on the spec)14:44
dharinicwill respond to it rosmaita14:44
rosmaitai'll re-read the db sync and see if i can remember the PTG discussion14:44
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rosmaitaok, thanks for all the spec reviews, everyone14:45
rosmaita#topic open discussion14:45
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rosmaitai notice that jokke_ put up a bunch of patches right before the meeting14:45
jokke_yeah need to dump them in again14:46
jokke_so ignore for now ... will see 'though if the rebasing solved the issues later on the chain14:46
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rosmaitaok, cool14:46
jokke_I had remote messing my repo up and I ended pushing those patches out from wrong repo14:47
rosmaitahemanthm: it looks like emilen is ok with waiting until pike-1 for the release version change to happen?14:47
hemanthmrosmaita: yes14:47
hemanthmhe abandoned the patch14:47
hemanthmI will include it in the release CPL docs14:47
rosmaitai read through that stuff agian be before the meeting, think i understand it now14:47
rosmaitasounds good14:48
jokke_release version change?14:48
rosmaitajokke_: don't ask!14:48
rosmaitathe deal is that there's a period of time14:48
jokke_I did ... clearly something I have missed ;)14:48
rosmaitaafter stable/ocata was cut and while we start pike14:48
rosmaitawhere both master and stable/ocata are at version 14.0.014:49
rosmaitaand it is confusing packagers14:49
rosmaitaso there's a way to tell pbr to increment the version in master before P-1 gets cut14:49
rosmaitahemanth will doc that for the release CPL14:49
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rosmaitabut, we won't do that special step because when we do P-1 today, the release version will be incremented appropriately14:50
jokke_IIUC pbr should not allow packaging it if the version has been tagged already14:50
rosmaitato 15.0.0.dev14:50
rosmaitajokke_: not sure about that, there was something on the ML14:50
jokke_or was that removed so that there is no need for version bump as first commit after cutting the stable branch?14:50
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jokke_'cause it used to be that you couldn't even merge anything in before you had bumped the version, which was great and prevented such issues14:51
hemanthmDo we version bump after cutting stable?14:51
hemanthmIf we are supposed to do that, maybe that's the source of confusion14:52
jokke_hemanthm: I didn't look at this cycle but it has been the case. There has been always version bump proposed as first patch after tag/branch cut14:53
rosmaitaok, then that explains it, i guess14:53
rosmaitahere's the ml thread: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/114991.html14:53
jokke_and pbr didn't allow anything to merge if there was conflict of same version coming from multiple sources or same version coming with different output14:53
hemanthmjokke_: I see, let me check. I don't remember seeing such a patch14:53
rosmaitaaccording to that thread, there were some changes made becaue of releasenote generation so that some things don't happen automatically any more14:54
jokke_yeah ... well perhaps that somewhere is the right place to address it then ;)14:55
rosmaitaok, i think we are ok for Pike14:55
rosmaitaand hemanthm 's update to the doc will set us up so we don't forget for Queens14:56
rosmaita4 minutes left14:56
rosmaitaany other items?14:56
jokke_nothing from me14:57
rosmaitaok, the mirrors should be up to date by now14:58
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rosmaitalet's get the range-request patches merged14:58
hemanthmmaybe we can continue this on the glance channel but I was thinking about doing on-boarding events to encourage new contributors14:58
rosmaitaand hemanthm can declare P-1 on time14:58
rosmaitahemanthm: ++14:58
rosmaitaglance channel for some brainstorming, but let's also put on the agenda14:59
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hemanthmonce every two weeks or so, we announce a day where we encourage new folks to ask us questions, get reivews etc14:59
rosmaitai like it14:59
rosmaitawe can alternate times for apac14:59
hemanthmyeah14:59
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rosmaitaok, we're just about out of time14:59
jokke_Thanks everyone!15:00
rosmaitathanks, everyone!15:00
rosmaita#endmeeting15:00
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hemanthmthanks15:00
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sjmc7#startmeeting openstack search15:01
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sjmc7morning all15:01
lei-zho/15:01
Kevin_Zhengo/15:01
rosmaitao/15:01
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sjmc7we’ll start in a minute or two15:02
TravTo/15:03
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sjmc7probably going to be a short one this week, but we’ll see15:03
sjmc7#topic nova cells15:03
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sjmc7The spec got approved on nova, though it looks like there’s still some differences of opinion - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441692/15:03
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sjmc7The short version is that there’ll be a fallback path if SL isn’t enabled, but for now they want to move forward and find out any issues we’ll run into15:04
Kevin_ZhengMatt considered SL side to be the dependency of nova side, so maybe I will help on the versioned notification handler bo15:05
Kevin_ZhengNp15:05
Kevin_ZhengBp15:05
sjmc7i put up a patch for that at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453352/15:05
sjmc7it’s WIP with some rough edges, but does work15:05
Kevin_ZhengAh cool15:06
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Kevin_ZhengThe additional payloads are merging slowly:(15:06
sjmc7that’s ok. i did have some questions about the versioning15:07
sjmc7i’m not sure what to do about expected vs supported versions15:07
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sjmc7with the microversion API we can request a specific version and know what we’re getting. with the versioned notifications it looks like we’ll just get a version but may not know ahead of time which one15:08
sjmc7i guess we’d need a handler per possible version which could get out of control pretty quickly15:08
Kevin_Zhenghmm15:09
sjmc7horizon has had the same problem with microversion APIs, that they have either had to create lots of code paths to support different potential API versions or peg to a known microversion15:10
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Kevin_Zhengmaybe we can have a handler per release?15:10
sjmc7as long as the notification version doesn’t change tens of times per release we’re probably ok15:10
sjmc7yeah, that would make sense. pick a version per release and support it15:10
sjmc7the other problem i had was that i was receiving both versioned and unversioned notifications because of the way the oslo messaging binding works15:11
Kevin_ZhengBut this might means we have to do quick response at the end of each release15:11
sjmc7yes, it might. but hopefully nova is reasonably stable towards the end of releases15:11
Kevin_ZhengDid you configure the to send only versioned one?15:14
sjmc7no, i left the default (because that’s how many people will deploy)15:14
sjmc7so yeah, setting it to versioned only solves it, but it seems unreasonable to force that15:14
Kevin_ZhengDefault sends both15:14
sjmc7yes15:14
sjmc7i was expecting only to receive them on the versioned_notifications topic, but i was getting both, so i’ll look at that too15:15
Kevin_ZhengHmm strange15:15
lei-zhare they separated by notification exchanges?15:15
Kevin_ZhengNeed to check the code...15:16
sjmc7mm… possibly not. i’ll take another look at it, it’s definitely possible i have something configured wrong15:16
sjmc7i’ll do some more work on that patch and get it to a point it’s working reasonably well, but it doesn’t look like there’s any significant barriers15:17
sjmc7Kevin_Zheng or anyone else - did you have anything else about the nova cells work?15:17
Kevin_ZhengNo, I will help on review15:18
sjmc7ok15:20
sjmc7the only other topic i had was..15:20
sjmc7#topic glance community images15:20
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sjmc7rosmaita: we spoke about this at the end of ocata and in the end i think searchlight punted on it15:20
sjmc7but it looks like the nova work could also benefit from overridable default filters15:20
rosmaitayes, i saw your spec15:20
sjmc7so we might be able to do the ‘hide community images unless i ask for them'15:21
rosmaitait's probably a good idea, because community images offer the potential for a lot of spam15:21
rosmaita(if anyone ever uses them)15:21
sjmc7:)  ok. well, once i (or someone) gets round to that feature for nova (where it sounds like it’s sort-of-mostly-essential) we can try applying it to glance15:23
rosmaitamakes sense to me15:24
sjmc7ok. that was all i had for topics15:25
sjmc7#topic open discussion15:25
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sjmc7if anyone’s got any burning questions, go for it, otherwise i’ll call it in a few minutes15:25
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sjmc7ok, thanks folks. have a good weekend!15:31
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spotzI'll give everyone a minute or 2 to join16:00
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evrardjpspotz: could you reping everyone on the chan?16:01
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andymccr#startmeeting openstack_ansible_meeting16:02
openstackMeeting started Thu Apr  6 16:02:09 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is andymccr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:02
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spotzYeah andymccr is leading!:)16:02
evrardjphaha16:02
evrardjpthat's written indeed :)16:03
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andymccrahh i didnt mean to be chair i know you can add additional chairs somehow16:03
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andymccrmhayden: do you know? :D16:03
mhaydenandymccr: #chair <nick> <nick> <nick>16:03
spotzhehe, most of the agenda is you:)16:03
evrardjpchairs? I'd prefer a couch. #terriblejoke16:03
cloudnullo/16:03
xgermano/16:03
andymccrhaha thats true - we are light on topics this week - its mostly follow up from last week! (and anything new that people didnt add to the agenda!)16:03
rromans\o16:04
spotzHurry up and #topic roll call16:04
andymccrhaha16:04
andymccr#topic roll call16:04
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andymccryes this :P16:04
spotzSee I'm leading... :)16:04
andymccris why i shouldnt run meetings16:04
cathrichardsono/16:04
asettleo/16:04
jmccroryo/16:04
evrardjpo/16:05
spotz\o/16:05
stevelle-o/16:05
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andymccrok i think we're good to start!16:05
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rromans.16:06
andymccr#topic action items from last week16:06
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evrardjpwe have a larger quorum than at bug triage or previous weeks, so it's definitely a go.16:06
evrardjp:p16:06
andymccrevrardjp: hahaha16:06
andymccrahh bug triage :D16:06
andymccrfirst item16:06
andymccrOSA TEAM TO REVIEW OR ALEX WILL BE UPSET (https://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-ansible/draft-operations-guide/index.html)16:06
andymccrasettle: ^16:06
spotzSee that wasn't even on the agenda!16:06
asettleBeautiful16:06
asettleHahhahaha16:06
asettleTHe action items?16:07
andymccrahh i updated it before - its just action items from last week!16:07
asettleandymccr: are you being shite at updating16:07
asettle:P16:07
evrardjpthat's a next item right?16:07
spotzI had this from the last log - evrardjp triage https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/167816516:07
andymccrthat is an action item after this :P16:07
andymccrhahaha16:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1678165 in openstack-ansible "dynamic_inventory.py container_mtu bug" [Undecided,New]16:07
asettlespotz: action items from last week can be found in the meeting minutes from last week16:07
andymccrahh spotz i think thats the bug triage logs16:07
asettleIt's a weekly topic, it just isn't auto updated into the next week :)16:07
spotzbah!16:07
asettleHahaha, all good! :)16:07
asettleThat makes more sense16:07
andymccrspotz: i updated the meeting agenda - its a bit confusing16:07
evrardjpspotz: yup that's bug triage action points ;)16:08
evrardjpbut nice reminder.16:08
spotzCaerry on:)16:08
andymccrOK so asettle do we need to continue reviewing/add it as another action item again?16:08
asettleKeep it as a continuous action item16:08
asettleWe've had some traffic latley16:08
asettleIt's just good for peopel to notice doc stuff16:08
andymccr#action more reviews on https://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-ansible/draft-operations-guide/index.html - changes going in.16:08
asettleAlso, can people please actually review the content, rather than just +2ing it because it's a doc change?16:08
asettleI've noticed a lot of patches being given +2's lately without actually being reviewed for simple things like spelling16:09
andymccr^ yeah important16:09
asettleIt's a bad look dudes.16:09
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spotzAnd ran into issues with the install guides like that:(16:09
spotzNot ours but just saying16:09
evrardjpasettle: well if the content is good it's a good start vs no content.16:09
asettleYeah, basically. I mean, I get it, you can't catch everything at once - but don't +2 it if you cbf checking spelling or grammar16:09
evrardjpBut yes limiting to +116:09
asettleThere are plenty of doc people about to help :)16:09
andymccrwell im glad some movement is happening, i think we're gonna focus more on this in the coming months to get something workable in the release16:09
asettleevrardjp: yep :) exactly that16:10
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evrardjpasettle: is there a focus to be set there? Because there is massive work to review everything and add content16:10
evrardjp(splitting the work with an etherpad?)16:10
andymccrspotz and asettle and rromans do a great job on docs, so we can perhaps double up on docs changes - requiring one of them approve?16:10
andymccror does that make it harder for you?16:11
asettleI think that would make sense.16:11
asettleJust add us as reviewers, and we'll pop up16:11
andymccrok cool16:11
asettleThoughts spotz ?16:11
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spotzYeah that'll help if we're not online to squirrel to them:)16:11
andymccr#action docs reviews get spotz/asettle/rromans added as reviewers and lets ensure doc quality16:11
andymccrok cool16:12
andymccrso lets move onto the next action item16:12
andymccrwhich is related :P16:12
andymccrevrardjp work on the firewll for ops guide16:12
evrardjpdone16:12
andymccrboom16:12
evrardjpnext16:12
andymccrnext16:12
andymccrAndy to actually update the meeting agenda each week16:12
andymccrdone!16:12
andymccrdouble boom16:12
andymccrnext16:12
evrardjpboom16:12
asettle\o/16:12
andymccrandymccr to look into getting an on-boarding room at the summit (carry-over)16:12
andymccrok so this is a womp womp16:12
evrardjp"done"16:12
andymccrthe rooms went really quickly, and there aren't any left :(16:12
evrardjpoh16:13
evrardjpthat's sad16:13
spotzandymccr: Not even during lunch?16:13
evrardjpmaybe worth noting for next time16:13
andymccrso we missed out on that one, but im going to mention it at my talks, and if people are interested we can arrange something impromptu, i know spotz will be there so we can do something ad hoc potentially16:13
spotzYeah the requour fearless leader was in Milan not bringing us presents16:13
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andymccrspotz: i'll follow up with Kendall - she's super helpful so if its a posibility will find out16:13
spotzrequest can out....16:14
spotzI can't type:(16:14
andymccrhahaha16:14
andymccrok so next action item from last week16:14
andymccrreview https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447151 and talk about shared "osa community goals" for network integration best practices next week (useful for trove and octavia)16:14
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andymccrxgerman: i see there are some reviews, do you want to keep this one as a carry-over action item? or are we getting traction?16:14
xgermanI thin we are getting tatction16:15
xgermanI will do the latest changes and hope for the best16:15
andymccrxgerman: excellent :) thanks for the work!16:15
andymccrok next!16:15
andymccrreview and comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451425/16:15
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andymccrsome good reviews in there, i still need to do a spec, after speaking with evrardjp and others i think we have some ideas. and thanks stevelle/cloudnull et al for the reviews!16:16
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cloudnull++16:16
andymccrmore would be appreciated because again - it's going to form the basis of our architecture moving forward.16:16
cloudnullI think that's a great way forward16:16
andymccr#action andymccr to create spec for uwsgi/nginx changes16:16
andymccri'll carry that one over16:16
andymccrand lastly from action items16:17
andymccrandymccr to look into timeslots for meeting and poll the team to decide a best time16:17
andymccrso i havent done that16:17
andymccri'll addit again :P16:17
andymccr#action andymccr to look into timeslots for meeting and poll the team to decide a best time16:17
andymccr#topic uWSGI/Nginx16:17
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andymccrso this came up as an action item16:17
andymccrbut again - super important.16:17
andymccrjmccrory: logan- im pinging you just as a prod ;) so check out https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451425/ and comment!16:17
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andymccr#topic Release Planning/discussion16:18
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andymccrnext week will be another release - mgariepy isn't about but i know he had some patches that were needed for CentOS - will follow up with him16:18
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andymccrbut if there are any other urgent/key changes that need to go in let me know!16:18
andymccrok so lastly!16:19
andymccr#topic open discussion16:19
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andymccrOh actually, let me add that as an action item16:20
andymccr#action review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451425/16:20
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spotzmgariepy is in channel if needed16:20
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andymccrahh :D16:21
andymccryay16:21
mgariepyhello :)16:21
andymccrmgariepy: if im not mistaken you wanted some patches to go in for next release?16:21
andymccrthat'll be next week - i just want to make sure i dont miss anything16:21
mgariepyhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/454209/16:21
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andymccrok cool :)16:21
mgariepythis one would be nice since ceph is useless without it.16:22
andymccr#action review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454209/ for CentOS release16:22
mgariepyhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/453710/16:22
mgariepythis one also.16:22
andymccrok so will need a SHA bump for that too.16:22
andymccrmgariepy: can you include the SHA bump for the ceph client role in that openstack-ansible stable/ocata patch?16:23
mgariepyyep i will16:23
andymccrsweet :)16:23
andymccrok cool16:23
andymccrok so open discussions if anybody has anything else to bring up!16:23
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andymccrgive it a few more minutes :)16:25
mgariepyany plans to push nova and horizon patch ?16:25
andymccrmgariepy: the horizon announcement from today? yeah i plan to do a sha bump for those ones.16:26
mgariepyhttp://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2017-721416:26
mgariepynova from the other day.16:26
andymccrlemme add an action item16:26
andymccr#action andymccr SHA bump for nova/horizon to account for CVEs16:26
andymccrgood reminder :)16:26
mgariepywould it be a lot of work to get a fast-track for this kind of stuff ?16:26
andymccrmgariepy: nope - i'll just push a sha for those projects16:26
andymccrso it 100% goes into the release16:27
mgariepyok16:27
andymccrand i can push the release out a bit earlier next week16:27
mgariepycool, thanks a lot :D16:27
andymccrthanks for pointing it out!16:28
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andymccrok if theres nothing else im happy to close it out for today!16:28
evrardjpfine for me16:28
spotzWoot!16:29
spotzDamn I lead a good meeting:)16:29
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andymccrhahaha16:29
andymccrsmooth! :P16:29
andymccrok thanks all :)16:29
andymccr#endmeeting16:29
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LouisF#startmeeting service_chaining17:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Apr  6 17:00:20 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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LouisFhi all17:00
bcafarelhello17:01
vks1hi all17:01
LouisFbcafarel: hi17:01
LouisFvks1: hi17:01
vks1lets start17:02
LouisF#topic agenda17:02
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LouisFhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceFunctionChainingMeeting#Agenda_for_the_Networking-SFC_Meeting_.284.2F6.2F2017.2917:02
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LouisFdoonhammer: hi17:03
doonhammerHi Louis17:03
bcafarel18672917:03
bcafarelsorry wrong window17:03
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LouisF#topic CLI in python-neutronclient17:04
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LouisFhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/409759/17:04
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LouisFstill comments on this17:04
LouisFmohan is not on17:05
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LouisFmoving on17:05
LouisF#topic SFC reference doc17:05
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LouisFhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/389385 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/411409/17:06
LouisFstill work to do here17:06
LouisF#topic Pike work17:07
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LouisFTap SF, SFC graph, OVN driver17:07
LouisF#topic Tap SF17:07
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LouisFvks1: what is status?17:08
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vks1LouisF: I am doing some manual testing with ovs-flows to achieve TAP17:08
vks1LouisF: there was issue with mpls with resubmit action17:09
LouisFvks1: have you resolved it?17:09
vks1LouisF: I raised that on OVS , meanwhile I have figured a way around to address17:09
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vks1LouisF: still I see some inconsistency with datapath17:10
LouisFvks1: can you elaborate?17:10
vks1LouisF: not sure if that's an mpls hazard17:10
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vks1LouisF: one issue I saw is OVS didn't stripped the MPLS header before sending to SF17:11
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vks1*packet17:11
vks1I needed to restart OVS to fix this17:12
LouisFvks1: do have a design for handing the tap in the ovs integration bridge?17:12
vks1LouisF: once I am done with my experiments I will send across17:12
LouisFthere is a pop_mpls action17:14
vks1LouisF: yeah17:14
LouisFvks1: is that not getting called?17:15
vks1LouisF: for the issue , I chkd there where no logs in OVS log files, but once I restarted OVS it was working fine17:16
vks1LouisF: Talked to justin, he suggested might be upgrade to compute kernel can fix this17:16
LouisFvks1: to do the tap, what changes are you making to the ovs integration bridge?17:16
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LouisFvks1: not clear on what the problem is?17:17
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vks1LouisF: I am using a table for TAP, and adding the MPLS label of TAP service and do the rest of processing17:18
vks1LouisF: that's true there are inconsistency and hard to debug17:18
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LouisFhow are you using this tap table?17:20
vks1LouisF: its almost same like the existing table: 5 , let me complete the experiment, I will send across17:21
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LouisFvks1: ok thanks17:22
vks1LouisF: so I need the float a separate doc for the design ??17:22
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LouisFvks1: yes we should have a spec the outlines the tap design for ovs17:23
vks1LouisF: OK17:23
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LouisF#topic SFC graph17:23
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LouisFIgor has posted patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388802/17:24
LouisFplease review this17:24
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LouisFigordcard: had a question on the exceptions17:26
LouisFwhat is this used for? ServiceGraphLoopDetected17:27
LouisFigordcard: is don't see where this gets raised?17:28
LouisFlooks like Igor is away17:29
bcafarelnot sure igordcard is around17:29
LouisF#topic OVN work17:29
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LouisFdoonhammer: what is status on this?17:29
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doonhammerI think we have the patch resolved - Mickey and I have agreed on the approach and changes - I will make them and re-submit the patch17:31
LouisFdoonhammer: ok thanks17:31
doonhammeronce that is done we can go ahead and implement in networking-ovn and networing -sfc17:31
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LouisFdoonhammer: sounds good17:32
doonhammerLouisF: can you take a look at the patch and changes and comment -want to make sure I have not missed anything17:32
LouisFdoonhammer: will do17:32
LouisF#topic other items17:33
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LouisFhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/167746917:33
openstackLaunchpad bug 1677469 in neutron "networking-sfc is breaking tacker CI" [Undecided,New]17:33
LouisFbcafarel: i saw you response on this17:33
bcafarelLouisF: late update on the ServiceGraphLoopDetected it's used in the next review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419212/17:33
vks1LouisF: I have raised a bg17:33
vks1*bug17:34
bcafarelLouisF: ack it looks like tacker CI is OK again, so I think tmorin's fix was good for tacker too17:34
LouisFbcafarel: thanks17:34
LouisFbcafarel: and thanks on the link17:34
bcafarel64856617:35
vks1https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/167579617:35
openstackLaunchpad bug 1675796 in networking-sfc "reverse flow creation fails for single arm SFs" [Undecided,New]17:35
bcafarelok I need to move that yubikey somewhere else :)17:35
LouisFbcafarel: np17:35
vks1can we discuss the above bug17:35
vks1?17:35
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LouisFvks1: go ahead17:36
LouisFvks1: you had one port chain and then tried to create another?17:37
vks1currently for a single arm SFC we can't build reverse flow17:37
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vks1LouisF: yeah for reverse flow17:37
vks1this is the most basic deployment , I think we need to resolve this17:38
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vks1according to current implementation, we can have only flow in one direction for single arm SF17:39
LouisFvks1: so its blocked on two port chains that use the same PPG?17:41
vks1LouisF: that's true17:41
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bcafarelthe reverse path is just fo rthe PPG I suppose? for the full port chain, symmetric works (I think?)17:42
LouisFvks1: one portchain is for forward traffic and the other for reverse traffic through the same PPG17:42
vks1LouisF: yes17:43
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LouisFok i see17:43
vks1bcafarel: there will be issue as for same port , we need to make 2 decisions ing/egr17:44
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LouisFthe issue is that for a single arm SF,  ovs agent needs to distinguish forward traffic from reverse traffic17:45
LouisFthe only way to do that is to match on the n-tuple of the packet17:46
vks1LouisF: yeah probably something like that17:46
LouisFis a flow classifier has only logical-source-port as in your example the ovs is cannot do that17:46
LouisFis -> if17:47
LouisFvks1: can you try with a FC that includes the source IP prefix?17:48
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vks1LouisF: lets discuss this on launchpad, If we know what all can be issues, we can work on solution17:48
vks1LouisF: OK will try with prefix17:48
LouisFso the FC1 has source IP prefix = IP1 and FC2 has source IP prefix = IP217:49
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LouisFvks1: ok will post to launchpad17:49
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vks1bcafarel: LouisF: doonhammer: please respond with all your thoughts on the launchpad.17:50
LouisFvks1: i will update lp17:50
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vks1LouisF: thanks17:50
bcafarelsure thing17:50
LouisFany other items to discuss?17:52
LouisFok thanks all17:53
vks1thanks all17:53
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bcafarelthanks, and bye17:54
LouisFbye all17:54
LouisF#endmeeting17:55
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