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oansonHi09:01
oanson#startmeeting Dragonflow09:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Jan  9 09:01:35 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is oanson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)"09:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow'09:01
oansonWho is here for the Dragonflow meeting?09:01
* xiaohhui raises his hand09:01
dimakGood morning09:01
oansonyuli_s, nick-ma_, lihi ?09:02
oansonirenab ?09:02
oansonAll right. Let's start09:02
oanson#info dimak and xiaohhui in meeting.09:02
irenabhi09:02
oanson#info irenab is in meeting too09:02
oanson#topic Roadmap09:03
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oansonSince we are so few hands today, I'll just run through what I know about the roadmap, and you'll add anything I will missed.09:03
oansonIPv6 - I know lihi is working on the comments to the neighbour discovery / advertising patch.09:04
oanson#link Add IPv6 ND Neighbor Advertiser application https://review.openstack.org/#/c/412208/09:04
oansonSFC had no progress due to the work on NB refactor09:05
oansonChassis health and service health, rajivk uploaded a patch with implementation09:05
dimak😞09:05
oanson#link Added support for service status reporting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415997/09:05
oansonI think we should have the openstack bot quote patches in the same way it quotes bugs09:06
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oansonI have to go over the specs again, but rajivk's patch definitely includes the second spec (Spec to support service status reporting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402395/ )09:06
xiaohhuiAbout chassis health, I will put my spirit in review and code base on rajivk's work.09:07
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oansonxiaohhui, great. Thanks! I think he would appreciate that too.09:07
oansonAs far as I know, there is no progress in TAPaaS.09:07
oansonyuli_s has been working on aggregating the rally results, and didn't have a lot of time to look into it09:07
oansonNB API - We are still trying to get infra to accept jsonmodels. They are trying to convince us to use oslo.versionedobjects (OVO)09:08
dimakThe needed fixes were merged09:08
oansonWe think that OVO is a bit of an overkill for what we want to do, whereas jsonmodels is very simple.09:08
oansondimak, great. Thanks!09:08
dimakAnd I honestly think we're not at the point yet where we can benefit from OVO09:09
oanson#link Add jsonmodels requirement https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415164/09:09
oansonI see Matthew Thode removed his objections.09:09
dimakI'm trying to get tonyb on IRC but timezone differences make it a bit difficult09:10
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oansonAll right.09:11
oansonAnything else for roadmap?09:11
dimakI'll upload some refactor patches09:11
dimakI've started to port Chassis model so we can see how it will look09:11
oansondimak, Great.09:12
dimakI'd love some input whether it makes things better or worse before we port other models :)09:12
oansonI'll also update the spec today to incorporate everyone's latest comments.09:12
oanson#topic Bugs09:12
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oansonI don't see anything new and urgent except one issue09:13
oansonBug 165164309:13
openstackbug 1651643 in DragonFlow "metadata service cannot start due to zmq binding conflict" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1651643 - Assigned to Li Ma (nick-ma-z)09:13
oansonIt's popping up all the time, forcing services to fail since we have too many publishers/subscribers.09:13
oansonI see nick-ma_ is on it. But he isn't here now.09:14
xiaohhuiWhat is the specific output of the error?09:14
oansonIt's in the bug report:09:14
xiaohhuiI see09:14
oansonZMQError: Address already in use09:14
dimakI see address in use in df-local-controller occasionally too09:15
oansonYes09:15
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oansonI think the issue is that we were lazy, and thought that in compute node side, we don't need the publisher service for multiproc publishers09:15
oanson(e.g. zmq)09:15
oansonThe truth is I'm not sure we need a publisher on the metadata service either. I think that's an error since everyone uses nb_api.09:16
oansonAny other bugs that need to be discussed?09:17
oanson#topic Open Discussion09:18
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oansonThe floor is for the taking.09:18
dimakNothing on my end09:19
xiaohhuiNothing from me too09:19
oansonAll right. Then thanks everyone!09:19
oansonKeep up the great work!09:19
dimakGood bye!09:19
oanson#endmeeting09:19
xiaohhuiBye~09:19
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apuimedo#startmeeting kuryr14:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Jan  9 14:01:49 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is apuimedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'kuryr'14:01
apuimedoHello everybody!14:01
apuimedoWelcome to another kuryr meeting?14:02
apuimedos/?/!/14:02
apuimedoxD14:02
irenabhi14:02
apuimedoStart on the wrong foot14:02
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qwebirc69418hi14:02
alraddarla_o/14:02
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apuimedolet's see how many typos I can make today14:02
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ltomasboo/14:03
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apuimedovikas messaged me that he most likely won't be able to attend today14:03
apuimedothank you all for showing up14:03
apuimedo#topic kuryr-lib14:03
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apuimedo#info We released kuryr-lib 0.3.014:03
apuimedo#info it includes a refactor of the keystonauth1 code so now fuxi can leverage it too14:04
apuimedoIn other news14:04
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apuimedo#info svinota pushed a new release of pyroute2 https://github.com/svinota/pyroute2/releases/tag/0.4.12 which includes the namespace fixes we needed14:05
apuimedo#action apuimedo to send a patch to up the pyroute2 upper constraints14:05
ivc_apuimedo what exactly did we need from those?14:06
apuimedo#link https://github.com/svinota/pyroute2/commit/db97c896c12d4aee555fd182b97e426cb561e29b14:07
apuimedo#link https://github.com/svinota/pyroute2/commit/0aff806bd504172ddc8bb951cc707a1d390a704314:07
ivc_apuimedo thats https://github.com/svinota/pyroute2/issues/31714:07
apuimedoand there was one more important14:07
apuimedoright14:07
apuimedoivc_: that's the issue, and all the patches that fix it were finally part of a release last week14:08
ivc_i mean we could use net_ns_pid instead of net_ns_fd14:08
ivc_instead of /proc/self14:08
apuimedoI prefer we move to use paths, isn't it better?14:09
ivc_either one is fine14:09
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ivc_afaik net_ns_pid were available in kernel before net_ns_fd14:10
apuimedoI think vikasc's patch for k8s container-in-vm used the paths, and hence why I ask svinota to cut a new release14:10
apuimedoanything more on kuryr-lib?14:11
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hongbino/14:12
apuimedohi hongbin!14:12
apuimedo#topic kuryr-libnetwork14:13
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apuimedowe got quite a few patches to review irenab :-)14:13
irenabapuimedo: indeed14:13
apuimedoltomasbo's https://review.openstack.org/402462 is passing the gates, so we should try to get it in soon14:13
apuimedoalso we should review this new tests14:14
irenabare we waiting to get few fullstack tests or they will come as a folowup?14:14
apuimedo#action irenab apuimedo to review https://review.openstack.org/41490314:14
apuimedofor container-in-vm?14:14
apuimedoFollow-up14:14
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apuimedowe probably want them as a separate gate with a beefier node14:15
irenabthe documentation for setting the environment for the nested should be included14:15
irenabsimilar to the one in kuryr-k8s14:16
apuimedoagreed14:16
apuimedoltomasbo: ^^14:16
apuimedo#action ltomasbo to include docs for testing out the container-in-vm14:16
ltomasbook, I can add something similar, but please do the review on the rest14:17
apuimedosure14:17
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apuimedoanything more on kuryr-libnetwork (apart from vikas, irenab and I having to finish the review queue)?14:18
mchiapperouhm, I would like to ask whether it could be interesting to change the subnetpool request logic14:19
apuimedomchiappero: go ahead14:19
mchiapperocurrently when a pool is requested: if the name is passed in it always creates a new subnetpool (never reuses)14:20
mchiapperowithout the name useses the default but fails if already present14:20
mchiapperoso, there is no way to reuse a pool by providing the name14:20
mchiapperothis can be useful for nested containers14:20
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apuimedomchiappero: can you link the code sections14:21
apuimedo?14:21
mchiapperoof the existing code?14:21
apuimedoyeah14:21
* apuimedo thinking about meeting logs :P14:21
mchiapperoI'm referring to the whole RequestPool function14:21
irenabmchiappero: are you talking about the case when provided name matches already existing name?14:22
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mchiapperoit would be nice to find a clean way to let different containers in different VMs use consistent docker networks, so essentially sharing the same network and subnetpool resources14:22
mchiapperoirenab: right14:22
irenabmchiappero: sounds to me like its a bug in current impementation14:23
mchiapperowell whatever method that is deemed appropriate to allow this14:23
mchiapperois that interesting?14:23
apuimedo#link https://github.com/openstack/kuryr-libnetwork/blob/f44c3603802af9918fa9021e64eb1add425ba41e/kuryr_libnetwork/controllers.py#L1181-L127214:23
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apuimedoyes14:24
mchiapperoirenab: I'm not to sure about the rationale behind this, maybe there is a reason I ignore :)14:24
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mchiapperook, so, I don't have a proposal and lack time these days, but if you have one let's discuss about it in the chat14:25
apuimedo"This API is for registering an address pool with the IPAM driver. Multiple identical calls must return the same result. It is the IPAM driver's responsibility to keep a reference count for the pool."14:25
apuimedomchiappero: so we are violating the contract of "Multiple identical calls must return the same result" ?14:26
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mchiapperouhm, probably...14:26
irenabmchiappero: can you please report a bug?14:26
mchiapperook, I'll double check and report in case14:27
mchiappero(I'm done on this topic)14:27
apuimedothanks14:28
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apuimedomoving on14:28
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apuimedo#topic kuryr-kubernetes14:28
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apuimedo#action ivc_ to review Irena's services doc patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416228/14:29
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apuimedoirenab: do you know why dragonflow gate fails?14:30
irenabapuimedo: I think the patch to infra that fixesthis, was just merged. Let me retriger the gate14:30
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apuimedoirenab: thank14:31
apuimedo*thanks14:31
apuimedo#action ivc_ to review vikas container-in-vm patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410578/14:32
ivc_apuimedo sure14:33
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apuimedothanks ivc_ !14:33
apuimedook14:35
apuimedovikasc has also been working on a demo that shows kuryr-kubernetes with openshift  and openstack in baremetal14:35
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apuimedoI think next week he'll probably share an asciicinema link ;-)14:36
irenabapuimedo: any video available?14:36
irenabthanks :-)14:36
apuimedowe're still shortening the video14:36
apuimedo:-)14:36
apuimedobut the good news is that everything works well14:36
apuimedohe'll send some patches upstream14:36
apuimedoabout connecting to SSL kubernetes API servers and other things14:37
apuimedothat he just hacked on the environment14:37
ivc_apuimedo it's probably time to move to some real k8s client in kuryr-k8s14:37
ivc_apuimedo pykube maybe14:38
irenabivc_: for devstack?14:38
apuimedoivc_: that's the one we used for the fullstack tests on Midokura's PoC14:38
apuimedothe problem with using that for the "watch" functionality is that there's doubts on pykube's mainatenance14:38
apuimedoI, at least, haven't checked how they maintain it14:39
ivc_irenab no, to replace 'requests' in https://github.com/openstack/kuryr-kubernetes/blob/master/kuryr_kubernetes/k8s_client.py14:39
apuimedoand unless we are at peace with how that is done14:39
apuimedoI'd not be in favor14:39
apuimedo(as much as I want to drop code)14:39
apuimedo#action apuimedo study pykube maintainership and distros presence14:40
irenabivc_: is there any recomended clients by k8s guys?14:40
ivc_apuimedo what i mean is that extending k8s_client.py into a full-featured client does not seem to be a good idea14:40
irenabivc_: agree14:40
apuimedoirenab: we can move to grumpy and use existing k8s go client xD14:40
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apuimedoivc_: did you hear about grumpy?14:41
irenabapuimedo: maybe not a bad idea :-)14:41
apuimedonot at all, but we'd have to get rid of any c extensions we have14:41
apuimedoand grumpy is alpha14:41
apuimedoivc_: for the short term, my concern is that if we pick pykube, we have to be able to contribute to it14:42
irenabyea, seems abit early to use it14:42
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apuimedoand add things we may need, like SSL, websockets, etc14:42
ivc_apuimedo isn't grumpy a python -> go?14:42
apuimedoivc_: it allows you to use Go classes as well14:42
apuimedo:-)14:42
ivc_ah ok14:42
ivc_i wonder what TC would have to say about python running on golang env14:43
apuimedobut it's a very good point on the k8s client code. It's something that ideally shouldn't be part of openstack/kuryr-kubernetes14:43
apuimedoivc_: I'll let you guess :P14:43
ivc_:P14:43
apuimedoalright14:44
apuimedoanything else?14:44
apuimedoivc_: I suppose you'll start splitting up the services patch14:44
ivc_apuimedo yup14:44
apuimedocool, hopefully we can merge container-in-vm soon too14:45
apuimedoI'll go to PTG and see if magnum can start using kuryr-kubernetes too14:45
apuimedoonce that is merged14:45
hongbinmagnum requires the trust feature AFAIK14:45
ivc_i hope to finish most of the services patch split this/next week14:45
apuimedohongbin: I thought that's transparent if we support keystoneauth114:46
apuimedoisn't it?14:46
hongbinapuimedo: not sure, need to do an investigation on that14:46
* janonymous got late for meeting, reading backlogs14:46
apuimedojanonymous: welcome14:46
apuimedoivc_: cool14:46
apuimedoI'm hoping next week I can start work on the port file patch14:47
apuimedoand we can start planning the cni split14:47
apuimedo(which is almost a precondition for the port reusal driver)14:47
apuimedos/reusal/reuse/14:48
janonymousi saw another k8s client here few days back : https://github.com/kubernetes-incubator/client-python14:48
apuimedo:O14:49
hongbingreat14:49
apuimedo#link https://github.com/kubernetes-incubator/client-python14:49
apuimedowe gotta check that out!14:49
hongbinit looks very young though (3 months history)14:50
janonymousyeah! thought to mention to avoid double efforts14:50
apuimedointeresting, urllib3 directly instead of requests14:50
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ivc_apuimedo it also uses swagger to generate code similar to https://github.com/openstack/python-k8sclient14:50
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apuimedo:O14:51
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apuimedoI'm in principle against code generation... Makes for unidiomatic APIs, but let's check it14:52
ivc_apuimedo in this case swagger is the right thing imo14:52
apuimedonoted14:52
apuimedo#topic general14:52
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apuimedoany other topic before we close for today?14:52
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hongbinapuimedo: i would spend a few minutes to give a update on fuxi :)14:53
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hongbinapuimedo: might i ?14:53
apuimedohongbin: of course14:54
apuimedosorry14:54
apuimedo#topic fuxi14:54
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apuimedo#chair hongbin14:54
openstackCurrent chairs: apuimedo hongbin14:54
hongbinduring the holiday, we got the gate voting on dsvm jobs14:54
hongbinbesides that, there are several small fixes proposed14:55
hongbinmost importantly, we relseased a new kuryr-lib, which make the keystoneauth patch passed the gate14:55
hongbin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410403/14:55
hongbinapuimedo: that is it from me14:55
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apuimedovery well14:56
apuimedothanks hongbin14:56
apuimedoand sorry that I forgot the section14:56
hongbinapuimedo: oh, btw, zhangni was looking for feedback for the manila integration: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375452/14:56
hongbinapuimedo: np14:56
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apuimedo#action irenab apuimedo to review manila integration patch14:57
apuimedoThank you all for joining today!14:57
apuimedo#endmeeting14:57
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sigmavirus#startmeeting craton14:59
jimbaker#startmeeting craton15:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jan  9 14:59:59 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sigmavirus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
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openstackjimbaker: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.  Use #endmeeting first.15:00
sigmavirus#chair jimbaker15:00
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openstackCurrent chairs: jimbaker sigmavirus15:00
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jimbakersigmavirus, that was pretty awesome synchronization15:00
sigmavirusagreed15:01
jimbakerand a good test of the meetbot system, one in fact will win :)15:01
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sigmavirusanyway15:04
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jimbakeryep, time to get started15:04
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jimbakergit-harry, palendae, sulo, hi15:05
git-harryHi15:06
jimbakersigmavirus, anything you would like to add to our usual standing agenda of what we plan to do this week?15:06
jimbakerok, sounds like it's a great plan :) but we can add more as we discuss15:07
sigmavirus:)15:08
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jimbakersigmavirus, you spooked him15:09
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jimbakerso last week i made good progress on rbac, especially understanding how to merge the scoped role assignments with oslo.policy rules. it's pretty straightforward15:09
jimbakerwhich means, i have a working demo script of what it should look like; and i have been able to figure out what oslo.policy actually does, despite the rather cryptic docs. mostly by reading keystone and its own codebase15:11
jimbakerthis week i plan to get that in as a spec for review. about time15:12
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jimbakeri'm also going to set up meetings with dusty simonyi to help us on this phase of requirements gathering15:12
jimbakerlastly i hope to put together a roadmap draft15:13
jimbakerso that's my week15:13
jimbakersigmavirus, what are things looking like for you? it seems we got the pagination spec in good shape for completion shortly, and some discussion with the api wg as well on that15:14
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sigmavirusI'm going to wrap up the specification and then work on the actual implementation15:16
jimbakersigmavirus, cool. i think it's just a matter of some copy editing, and the spec will be wrapped up for craton15:17
jimbakerand thanks again for that spec work, it's really well done/well thought out15:18
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jimbakerin particular, capturing alternatives (and their counterargs) in the spec is something we should work on doing for future specs15:20
sigmavirusThat's why there's a section for it15:20
jimbakergit-harry, anything you would like to report?15:20
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jimbakersigmavirus, :)15:20
jimbakera good template, a good process, certainly builds a foundation for good work15:21
git-harryjimbaker: I have some things up for review, other than that nothing is new.15:21
jimbakergit-harry, sounds good, and we will take a look at those reviews. thanks for those!15:22
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jimbakeron friday, we had a good discussion with respect to instrumentation for distributed tracing. it's not something that means so much now, given the simplicity of how inventory works today. it will be far more useful as we look at integration with other sources of truth (eg nova plugins with virtualized variables)15:24
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jimbakerit is not something i'm really working on this week, given current low pri, but just something we will want to start thinking about15:25
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jimbakerin particular, this means implementing http://docs.openstack.org/developer/osprofiler/ support15:26
sigmavirusI've heard ... not great things about osprofiler15:27
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jimbakersigmavirus, got it. and that's quite valid feedback. just want to understand better pros/cons, and possibly that there specific aspects that can make it work better or not15:28
jimbakerin the meantime, we have this new distributed tracing functionality in aws, now under preview, https://aws.amazon.com/xray/15:29
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jimbakerwhich complements (and possibly builds on) related work in terms of cloudtrails15:29
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jimbakersigmavirus, is it also possible that osprofiler's issues are more with respect to ceilometer, vs the api itself?15:31
sigmavirusI believe it's more due to the fact that even when it's disabled it causes a performance hit15:31
sigmavirusI don't have numbers for that though15:32
jimbakersigmavirus, got it. so maybe more of a question of appropriate granularity15:32
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jimbakersince osprofiler is new to me, i don't have a sense of how people use/abuse it. from the DTS perspective, it's more about handoffs between distributed components, and that's where i would see any usage for us making sense15:34
jimbakeranyway, low pri for now15:34
sigmavirusjimbaker: I don't think it has to do with abuse15:34
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jimbakersigmavirus, cool15:35
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sigmavirusAs i understand it, they're using osprofiler as documented15:35
jimbakersigmavirus, are people using it for finegrained, or coarsegrained?15:35
jimbakerthe other thing i have been considering is that we may want to organize keys with respect to some namespace system. right now we have a flat namespace for the keys themselves, although something like ansible can take that and apply whatever convention is desired15:36
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sigmavirusjimbaker: afaik, osprofiler has no distinction. it's on or off15:36
sigmavirusand when it's off, it still hurts15:37
jimbakersigmavirus, ok. worth profiling then ...15:37
jimbaker;)15:37
jimbakerso the context for namespaces: if we are storing secrets like ssh keys; or plugin configs; or what have you, we may want to distinguish from usage like ansible15:38
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jimbakeri don't think this needs to be more than a convention, and possibly future indexing support. so if convention it could be "ssh/id_rsa", "plugin/nova", etc - in this particular case, use / as the namespace separator15:40
jimbakerjust putting this out there to start thinking about a namespace spec15:40
jimbakerSyed__, hi15:40
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jimbakerpalendae, this could extend to separating out osa stuff as well15:41
Syed__jimbaker: hi, sorry for delayed presence,, was unable to connect to my irc15:42
jimbakerSyed__, we have been discussing our upcoming plans for this week15:42
jimbakerin particular, i mentioned i got a working script going showing the bare minimum necessary for integrating what we do with scoped role assignments with oslo.policy rules15:42
palendaejimbaker: I'm not sure how we'd use it because Ansible has no concept of namespaces15:43
jimbakerpalendae, that's actually my point :)15:43
jimbakeri just want ansible to get what it needs from our integration, without getting the stuff it doesn't want15:43
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Syed__jimbaker: yeap i have been playing around with policy.json for setting up rules, can you put up the script as well in gist somewhere15:44
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jimbakerpalendae, we will want to be filtering this out regardless. using some sort of namespace will hopefully simplify what is necessary. but definitely want your feedback!15:45
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jimbakerSyed__, yes, i will put it out shortly; and it will also be described in the spec15:45
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palendaeOk; well, anything querying craton can reassemble things as it wants on the client side15:45
Syed__cool, thanks15:45
jimbakerpalendae, exactly15:45
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jimbakerSyed__, but in a nutshell, it's more about how to use oslo.policy than anything clever. it's really simple. but figuring it out took awhile, given rather cryptic docs15:47
jimbakeranything else? that's all i have15:47
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jimbakersigmavirus, ?15:49
sigmavirusI've nothing much15:49
jimbakersigmavirus, feel free to mention it. but we have #craton of course to go into more details15:50
palendaehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/410342/ would be nice to get opinions from Craton devs15:50
palendaeI've gotten feedback from sigmavirus already and some from other OSA people, which I do need to get back to15:50
jimbakerpalendae, sounds good. i was re-reading the feedback this morning. i will see what i can add to the discussion15:51
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jimbakerok, let's bring this meeting to a close15:52
jimbakerthanks everyone!15:52
jimbaker#endmeeting15:52
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qwebirc14394Bare metal deployment, how to set up physical switches, multi-tenant network isolation16:59
gnuoy\o17:00
thedaco/17:00
beisnero/ howdy17:00
gnuoycargonza, I'm guessing you're not about to chair?17:01
gnuoyok, np, I'll grab this one17:01
gnuoy#startmeeting charms17:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Jan  9 17:01:59 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gnuoy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'charms'17:02
gnuoy#topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting17:02
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gnuoyI'm going to carry forward the jamespage actions as he's not here to update there status17:02
gnuoybut for the record they are:17:02
gnuoy#subtopic ACTION: jamespage    allocate days in month for bug squashing. (carried forward) 17:02
gnuoy#subtopic ACTION: jamespage    talk py27 retirement with tc as ptl17:02
coreycbo/17:02
gnuoy#subtopic ACTION: gnuoy to    follow up on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403725/ re branch/tag    in import repo17:03
gnuoyThat one is done17:03
gnuoy#subtopic ACTION: cholcombe    close out bugs against ceph-fs 17:03
gnuoyicey, do you know the status of ^ ?17:03
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gnuoyok, I'll carry that forward17:04
gnuoy#topic State of Development for next Charm Release17:04
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gnuoyWe have some provisional dates17:04
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beisnerah yes17:04
gnuoybeisner, what were they again?17:04
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beisnerI believe tentative 17.02 charm feature freeze and release dates (to be confirmed next week):  Feb 9, Feb 23, respectively.17:04
gnuoykk, thank you17:05
beisnerwe should probably operate with those dates in mind, then reconfirm next week.17:05
gnuoyfyi murano, trove and mistral have landed into the openstack charms collection but are not due for deployment as part of 17.0217:05
beisnergnuoy, so those 3 will remain available as next/master charms, but no stable release cut just yet?17:06
gnuoyanyone got anything else they'd like to highlight for 17.02 ?17:06
gnuoybeisner, yep, I believe that is the plan17:06
beisnerok thanks17:06
coreycbpackages and charms are moving api's to mod_wsgi with apache217:06
gnuoyah, good point17:06
coreycbwell, charms except for swift.  we haven't made any progress on swift yet.17:06
gnuoyand all api charm are going to be deploying memcache too alongside the api service for keystone token caching17:07
coreycbbut hopefully we'll get swift done too17:07
coreycbcool17:07
tinwoodsorry, late, chatting to coreycb in the other channel :(17:07
coreycbtinwood, sorry :)17:07
gnuoyfwiw to follow along at home with the memcache changes: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:feature/enable-memcache17:08
gnuoyright I'm going to move on unless anyone wants to jump in with more 17.02 highlights17:08
gnuoy#topic High Priority Bugs17:09
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gnuoySo, we had a general bug triaging day last Thursday. I believe http://tinyurl.com/z26nssu17:09
gnuoyis being used as the KPI and we're down from ~215 to 116 which seems positive for me17:09
thedacThe peer storage vs leader-set bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/charm-helpers/+bug/1654116 is a high priority17:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1654116 in rabbitmq-server (Juju Charms Collection) "Attempts to write leadership settings when not the leader during relation-changed hooks" [High,Triaged]17:09
gnuoythanks to everyone who did some triaging17:09
gnuoythedac, ok, thanks for alert17:10
gnuoyanyone else got a bug(s) they'd like to highlight?17:11
gnuoy#topic Openstack Events17:11
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beisnerptg soon!17:11
thedacshould be fun17:11
gnuoyThere is some OpenStack presence at config management camp in Ghent in a few weeks17:11
thedacand FOSDEM, correct?17:12
gnuoyyep17:12
beisneryes and fosdem17:12
gnuoy#topic Open Discussion17:13
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gnuoyDiscuss openly......17:13
beisnerAlso re: events the juju charmer summit17:13
beisner#link http://summit.juju.solutions/17:13
gnuoythanks beisner17:13
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thedacI'll highlight the percona change that will make 5.6 behave like 5.5 regarding memory https://review.openstack.org/#/c/417131/17:13
beisnerah yes good call thedac17:14
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beisnerthat's been a point of awkwardness >= 5.6 wrt pxc17:14
gnuoythedac, interesting, I didn't know about that17:14
thedacnot directly OpenStack related but useful17:14
gnuoydefo17:15
beisnerand awkward is an awkward word17:15
thedac:)17:15
gnuoyok, I'm going to slam the door on this meeting unless anyone has anything else17:15
beisnercheers, thanks gnuoy - thanks all17:15
gnuoynext meeting same time same place 23rd January, cargonza to chair17:15
gnuoy#endmeeting17:16
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thedacthanks, gnuoy17:16
tinwoodthanks gnuoy17:16
gnuoynp17:16
coreycbthanks gnuoy17:17
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