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piet#startmeeting openstack_ux15:01
openstackMeeting started Fri May 27 15:01:42 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is piet. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack_ux)"15:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ux'15:01
pietLet's take role and see if anyone is here15:02
pietOtherwise, we can skip for two weeks15:02
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robcresswello/15:03
pietHi robcresswell15:03
pietHow are things?15:03
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robcresswellYeah all good.15:03
pietLemme chat with you about a few things while we're waiting15:03
robcresswellSure15:03
piet#topic horizon research needs15:04
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pietIs Horizon needing any research?15:04
pietBelieve you mentioned the overview panel15:04
robcresswellIt was more a suggestion than anything. We've talked before about whether the Admin/Project dashboard divide makes sense15:05
pietHuh15:05
robcresswellAnd whether there may be a better way to divide up the content15:05
robcresswellBecause "admin" is a bit of a vague term nowadays15:05
pietHow that work? A single dashboard with content filtered based on privileges?15:05
peristerio/15:05
tsufievhi15:06
hurgleburglero/15:06
robcresswellpiet: That was on suggestion yeah15:06
pietHi tsufiev Hi hurgleburgler15:06
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robcresswellAnd then maybe having a cross-region panel group, with bigger data aggregation views.15:07
pietAll, robcresswell  and I were discussing Horizon research15:07
robcresswellThe discussion blueprint from our side is here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/data-architecture15:07
pietHi peristeri !  Can you introduce yourself to the team?15:07
robcresswellIt's quite open ended15:07
pietrobcresswell What about Horizon/Searchlight integration?15:08
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peristeriHi everyone, I worked briefly on Horizon, and attended the design meeting in Austin.15:08
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pietHi peristeri !15:09
robcresswellpiet: Angular work is moving us that way, but searchlight isnt something we can rely on right now.15:09
pietrobcresswell k - I know the folks at HPE approached me about running a usability study on it15:09
pietBTW - I need to leave at the bottom of the hour for another meeting15:10
robcresswellSearchlight helps a lot with aggregating the data, but this is about presentation really.15:10
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ducttape_is this really going to happen!?15:11
pietk - can't make any promises on the dashboard because OS UX is going to be busy with alot of research before the next summit15:12
pietducttape_ is what going to happen? Searchlight?15:12
ducttape_todays meeting15:12
ducttape_I'm more realistic than that15:12
ducttape_:P15:12
pietYeah, we're in the middle of it15:12
hurgleburglerducttape_ LOL15:12
robcresswellpiet: Sure. Just wanted to see what thoughts were.15:12
pietTough crowd15:12
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pietducttape_ How would you prioritize the dashboard work and searchlight/horizon integration. We likely only have cycles for one15:14
ducttape_I'd need to take a lot at them again and review, I don't have a good answer off the top of my head15:15
pietKk15:15
pietI can also reach out to a few other operators to see what they think15:15
ducttape_yep.  if you had option A and option B defined, thats usually easy to answer15:16
pietducttape_ Kk15:16
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pietReady to move on?  I need to leave in fifteen minutes, so may do a quick core dump of stuff going on15:16
julimhiya. sorry I'm late15:17
robcresswellSure15:17
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piet#topic user research resource15:17
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pietWe are currently interviewing folks to conduct user research fro the community.  Half time15:18
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julimcount me in piet15:19
julimwhich research topics though as we've quite a few this release15:19
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pietInterviews will start next week.  I'm thinking the person will focus on help in OpenStack and Installer deployer15:20
pietNot sure yet15:20
julimack15:20
pietjulim Ack?15:20
julimpiet to the interviews starting next week15:20
julimpiet - my availability limited in june due to another offsite and red hat summit end of month15:21
julimbut will try and help as best  I can pending availability15:21
pietJust a contract gig.  It may take a while because seasoned researchers are hard to find15:21
pietjulim You know that15:21
julimack piet15:22
pietDid anyone else have any preferences on what this person should focus on?  We're specifically looking for survey, usability and interview epereince15:22
pietThe other topics on the plate are quotas, openstack client and API15:23
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tsufievoh, quotas!15:24
* tsufiev would be glad to see quota handling cease to exist as a bunch of ad-hoc solutions in horizon15:24
robcresswellquotas would be good15:25
tsufievbut I'm afraid that besides good UX practices we would need a solid support from other service teams15:25
tsufievwhich is hard to predict :/15:25
pietYep. Keep in mind that this person and I will be sharing splitting research responsibilities15:25
piettsufiev We had a meeting on quotas and the consensus was that we need decent use cases to understand what is needed15:26
tsufievpiet, got it. I was looking at quotas from inside, I mean code - and speaking of code, quotas are horrible in Horizon :)15:27
piettsufiev Yep. I've heard in a pain for devs to implement in Horizon. Hearing similar things from operators that are using APIs - no consistency15:28
pietA couple of quick things15:28
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tsufievpiet, seems that UX research here may overlap with the activity of different cross-project API groups15:29
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piettsufiev yep - reached out to them15:29
pietGotta go, but...15:29
pietCraige will be depploying pholio for us to test15:30
hurgleburgler\o/15:30
robcresswellSounds good15:31
pietPushing the foundation to create a "user experience" track for summits which could be called something like "Focus on Customers" or "What have you done for me lately"15:31
pietGood for Horizon, I think...15:31
pietGotta go15:31
pietDo you want to end the meeting or have hurgleburgler drive the discussion?15:32
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piet#endmeeting openstack_ux15:33
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openstackMeeting ended Fri May 27 15:33:07 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:33
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ux/2016/openstack_ux.2016-05-27-15.01.html15:33
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ux/2016/openstack_ux.2016-05-27-15.01.txt15:33
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pietTalk to you in two weeks15:33
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