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flaper87Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k13:59
flaper87Courtesy meeting reminder: Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishekk, bunting13:59
flaper87Courtesy meeting reminder: dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat13:59
flaper87#startmeeting Glance13:59
openstackMeeting started Thu Mar 24 13:59:48 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:59
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:59
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Glance)"13:59
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'glance'13:59
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buntingo/14:00
flaper87#topic agenda14:00
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flaper87#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda14:00
rosmaitao/14:00
dshakhrayo/14:00
ninago/14:00
jokke_o/14:00
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flaper87ok, let's kick this off!14:01
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flaper87#topic Updates Glare14:01
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nikhilo/14:01
kairato/14:01
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mfedosino/14:01
flaper87mfedosin: floor is yours14:01
flaper87:)14:01
flaper87just in time14:01
mfedosinso, what was done in last week...14:02
mfedosinwe created several patches14:02
mfedosin1. Policy support14:02
mfedosin2. Notification support14:02
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mfedosin3. DB layer for Glare14:03
mfedosin4. FaultWrapper middleware14:03
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mfedosin5. Functional tests for Image Artifact type14:03
mfedosinit will be merged with the existing code today14:04
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flaper87What's going to be merged?14:04
mfedosinalso we had a long chat with app-catalog yesterday14:04
flaper87Is that changing the API? I thought that work depended on the spec being approved14:04
mfedosinflaper87: these 5 patches with Glare All-in-one patch14:04
mfedosinflaper87: don't worry :)14:05
flaper87mfedosin: can those be kept separate instead of having a single huge patch?14:05
mfedosinflaper87: it's hard to develop if they're separated14:05
mfedosinwhen it is ready we will split the code in small patches14:06
mfedosinthat are more confortable for review14:06
flaper87mfedosin: sounds good14:06
flaper87thanks14:06
flaper87:)14:06
flaper87anything else?14:06
mfedosinbut now we have all code in one place14:06
mfedosinI think it's all we have14:06
flaper87cool! thanks a bunch14:07
flaper87#topic Updates Cross Project14:07
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flaper87nikhil: o/14:07
nikhilyo14:07
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nikhilTHe process of cleaning up stale specs has begun14:07
nikhilSo, if you'd liked a spec and need it seen in cross prj, please consider adding comments, updating patch etc.14:08
nikhilall of them in openstack/cross-project-specs14:08
nikhilbesides that14:08
nikhilI'd sent a email regarding quotas and asking for feedback last week14:09
nikhilI've had a great number of responses and varied use cases14:09
nikhilthat sort of helps gauge the openstack community perspective and set a soft direction14:09
flaper87Is the convo leaning towards a separate service?14:09
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nikhilno14:10
flaper87When I started contributing to Glance, that was the current state of mind (Boson)14:10
nikhilit's leaning towards a library backed with DB model14:10
flaper87or something like that14:10
flaper87sounds good14:10
flaper87more maintainable and scalable14:10
nikhilhere's a good summary14:10
nikhilhttp://www.openstack.org/blog/2016/03/openstack-developer-mailing-list-digest-20160318/14:10
nikhil(I think it directly links it)14:11
flaper87coolio!14:11
flaper87Anything else?14:11
nikhilWe'd have some more emails today14:11
nikhilyes14:11
nikhilone more thing14:11
nikhilthere's a email thread on "what are specifications?"14:11
nikhilpeople should read and comment on it14:12
flaper87++14:12
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* nikhil done14:12
flaper87Thanks for the heads up! Folks ^14:12
flaper87okidoki!14:12
flaper87#topic Oslo CPL (Call for volunteers)14:12
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flaper87#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/090092.html14:12
flaper87Just a heads up! There's a calls for volunteers for the Oslo CPL role14:13
flaper87If you feel like you have time to do it, please step up14:13
* sigmavirus24 apologizes for being late14:13
flaper87It doesn't take much time other than raising issues to the oslo team when things happen14:13
flaper87or bringing oslo feedback to this meeting14:13
flaper87etc14:14
flaper87Attending Oslo meetings (On Monday) would be recommended14:14
flaper87that's it14:14
flaper87#topic Glance Newton Priorities14:14
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flaper87#link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/glance-specs/priorities/mitaka-priorities.html14:14
flaper87That's our list of Mitaka priorities14:15
flaper87I've created this etherpad for us to start drafting what newto nshould look like: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-newton-priorities14:15
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flaper87I'll put some content in it in a bit14:15
flaper87TBH, I believe the priorities shouldn't shift from what they were in Mitaka. Not much, at least.14:15
mfedosin1. Deprecate v114:16
flaper87Image import refactor and Nova v1 -> v2 should be kept as top prio14:16
rosmaita++14:16
mclaren+114:16
flaper87The rest  should be "nice to have"14:16
jokke_++14:16
flaper87I'll keep an eye on that ehterpad but I'll start drafting the priorities spec for newton14:16
mfedosinI also want to see Glare in prioritis14:16
flaper87so we can comment on it14:17
nikhilyep14:17
nikhillet's start working on etherpad14:17
nikhilI think everyone undoubtedly agrees on Nova v1/v2 and import stuff14:17
flaper87#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-newton-priorities14:17
nikhilthe problems within the community are always beyond the obvious14:18
flaper87Just as a reminder for everyone: The priorities list should be kept small14:18
flaper872 to 3 items top that are critical for the project14:18
flaper87This doesn't mean other things can't be implemented14:18
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flaper87As I explained at the beginning of mitaka, other specs can (and likely will) be approved14:19
flaper87The important bit is that the work not considered priority mustn't conflict with the priorities of the cycle14:19
mfedosinflaper87: agree - priorities are not nice-to-have things, they are essential14:19
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flaper87ok, anything else? Questions ?14:20
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flaper87#topic Glance Summit Sessions14:20
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flaper87ooooook14:20
jokke_lets continue this on the etherpad/spec review14:20
jokke_not the summit sessions obviously :P14:21
flaper87As promised, I think we should start discussing the summit sessions14:21
nikhiljokke_: summit sessions too, I think :)14:21
flaper87I'll start some of these discussions and the upcoming PTL will likely take over14:21
flaper87#info PTL voting closes today at 23:59 UTC14:21
flaper87The reason I believe we should start discussing some of these topics here is that, apparently, no one is paying much attention to the etherpad and some topics need some clarifications14:22
flaper87etherpad is a terrible messaging tool14:22
flaper87So, I'll try to go in order (unless people have a better suggestion)14:22
jokke_should we start tracking summit session proposals in the specs-repo as well?14:23
flaper87please no14:23
flaper87hahahaha14:23
jokke_:P14:23
jokke_it would get us rid of the etherpad comms issues14:23
nikhilflaper87: surely, go ahead14:23
flaper87Proposal #3 Title: Glare v1 API14:23
rosmaitaprobably should encourage specs for the ones that attract some interest14:23
flaper87(I'm skipping the ones that have a description and folks have chimed in)14:23
flaper87mfedosin: what do you want to talk about in this session?14:24
flaper87is it going to be a demo?14:24
flaper87do you plan to discuss the new API?14:24
mfedosinsure14:24
jokke_flaper87: mind to drop the EP link again14:24
flaper87#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-glance-summit-planning14:24
flaper87jokke_: ^14:24
flaper87mfedosin: it'd be interesting to have a description written on the etherpad14:24
mfedosinwill be doen14:25
mfedosinsorry :)14:25
flaper87ok14:25
flaper87Proposal #4 Title: Deprecating v1 API14:25
flaper87mfedosin: ditto. Is this about Nova v1->v2?14:25
flaper87or is it literally about deprecating v1 ?14:25
flaper87A description and a spec would be awesome :D14:26
flaper87seems that even without description we all want it14:26
flaper87hahahaha14:26
* jokke_ hopes the later14:26
mfedosin++14:26
flaper87jokke_: yeah!14:26
flaper87mfedosin: same for the compatibility layer14:26
mfedosinI wanted it to be about v2 adoption in Nova14:26
flaper87mfedosin: sounds good!14:27
flaper87We can use that as a shared session with folks from Nova14:27
mfedosinand it will be great14:27
flaper87If so, we need to decided asap and let Nova folks know14:27
flaper87so we can schedule things accordingly14:27
mfedosinin that case we can combine deprecation of v1 and compat layer14:27
mfedosinin on session14:27
flaper87++14:27
flaper87Sounds good! Mind updating the etherpad ?14:28
* flaper87 thinks this discussion has been useful already14:28
flaper87:D14:28
flaper87Proposal #8 Glance tasks - present, future and the requirements.14:28
flaper87nikhil: was that you?14:28
mfedosinкшпре фаеук ьууештп14:28
nikhilyep14:28
mfedosinright after the meeting14:28
flaper87What exactly is it going to be about?14:28
flaper87Wondering since we've marked the task API as admin only already14:29
nikhilI can update the etherpad too14:29
flaper87and we've planned to deprecate it in Newton14:29
nikhilThe story around what's out there and where it's heading isn't clear to me14:29
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flaper87I guess my question is: What do we want to talk about as far as the future of this API goes?14:29
flaper87ok14:29
nikhilThe last feedback was14:29
nikhilwe can't get rid of the HTTP APIs14:29
nikhiland we've this public API sitting with some clouds exposing it14:30
flaper87Is that something that we could perhaps clarify during the meetup session or even during the Glance meeting?14:30
flaper87the TL;DR is: We can deprecate APIs, we're not removing them from the code base, though.14:30
flaper87We can make it admin only, mark it as deprecated and advice not to use it ever again14:30
flaper87Plus, we can stop supporting it14:30
flaper87anyway14:31
jokke_that support part is bit strong statement14:31
nikhilThat's the part is bit confusing14:31
nikhilwe can either make it admin only or deprecate it14:31
flaper87Sure, let's put it as a topic for the next meeting14:31
flaper87sounds good?14:31
nikhilbut admin only is a soft contraint14:31
jokke_++14:31
nikhilconstraint*14:32
flaper87Just to make sure we discuss it thoroughly and then we can decided if a session is worth it14:32
jokke_that should be pretty clear based on the discussions and decisions made in Tokyo + after14:32
nikhilflaper87: sounds good14:32
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flaper87Proposal #9 Glance and Glare image sharing, Glance community images14:33
flaper87Is that something that will have an impact on the import refactor?14:33
rosmaitadon't think so14:34
mfedosinI want to come and discuss it14:34
mclarenDid we hear anything more from Symantec about this?14:34
rosmaitano14:34
mfedosinI have no final decision on community sharing14:34
mclarenThey did send a mail to the list a while back.14:35
flaper87mmh, who proposed it?14:35
flaper87rosmaita: u ?14:35
nikhilme14:35
flaper87a-ha!14:35
flaper87gotcha14:35
rosmaitai added the descriptioin, though14:35
nikhilWe need to clear the air on that14:35
nikhilthere are some discussions around sharing in glare too14:35
nikhiland community stuff has been almost implemented14:35
rosmaita(my interest is making sure the "old" work on this isn't wasted!)14:35
nikhilrosmaita: +!14:35
nikhil+114:35
nikhil:D14:36
flaper87Understood! My worry is that we might endup using the summit to clear the air on several topics that won't be worked on during the cycle, hence all these questions14:36
nikhilflaper87: no, it's good to have all the questions out there14:36
flaper87Trying to make sure we use the slots for things that are actually going to be worked on14:36
nikhilthat was my motive to add the topics!14:36
mclarenSymantec spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271019/14:36
rosmaitaflaper87: understood, just floating some proposals to get feedback14:37
nikhillet's make sure we use the summit topics to ensure we all are on same page on all the things14:37
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flaper87I noticed mclaren put the Image Import REfactor14:38
flaper87I've ocmmented on the etherpad (Proposal #16)14:38
flaper87I'd really advice not having a session on it!14:38
mclarenI think if we set some ground rules it could be useful14:38
flaper87As I've mentioned before, I'm sure we'll end up discussing the spec from scratch, coming up with a whole new proposal and then we'll be back to where we were before Mitaka14:39
rosmaitamclaren: thanks for the link, i somehow completely missed that spec14:39
flaper87we've set ground rules in the past14:39
flaper87That's why I'm skeptical14:39
flaper87;)14:39
jokke_that might be sending a) wrong message about where we are on that and b) open can of worms we don't want to have all over the place ;)14:39
nikhilI'm with mclaren on this one14:39
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rosmaitai think we should devote a 2 hour session during the Friday workday14:40
nikhilit's worth taking the risk than loosing another cycle in noop14:40
rosmaitaan informal session14:40
mclarennikhil: +114:40
flaper87rosmaita: I mentioned that in my comment on the etherpad.14:40
flaper87Well, it's not like we have not taken the risk in the past 6 months14:40
rosmaitaflaper87: yeah, just re-emphasizing it14:40
flaper87That's my point14:40
flaper87If there are things to change in the spec, we can do that in the spec14:41
flaper87Ok, let me ask this:14:41
flaper87What would be the topics that are going to be discussed during that session?14:41
mclarenplan of action, corner cases we need to consider etc14:42
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flaper87What's the expected output?14:42
nikhilfor me it's mostly whiteboarding and discussing the challenges & architecture14:42
flaper87nikhil: that's what was done in Tokyo and over the last 6 months, FWIW14:42
flaper87mclaren: the plan of action is, partly, laid down on the spec already14:42
flaper87IF we want to discuss corner cases, we need to list them and keep the discussion on those14:43
nikhilflaper87: my chat with few folks in glance community made me realize that there are still unresolved questions on import refactor14:43
nikhilsame with it's architecture14:43
flaper87you mean unresolved questions that haven't been brought up?14:44
flaper87There are some that we've discussed over the spec14:44
nikhilyou14:44
nikhil:)14:44
nikhilsorry14:44
nikhilyou're asking me to open a can of worms now! :)14:44
flaper87No, I'm asking you to bring those up in the spec or ask the folks that have open questions to do so14:45
nikhilsure14:45
nikhilTBH, not everyone has read the spec completely (and all etherpads relating to it)14:45
rosmaitaby the way, i have a new patch up about the "message" element: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296167/14:45
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flaper87because we've spent more than 8 months asking these questions and it's a bit annoying to know that now that we almost consider this spec as "almost done" there are still fundamental questions around14:45
nikhilyes, thanks rosmaita14:45
nikhilI saw that it looks great14:45
jokke_rosmaita: saw it and posted one comment. Thanks :)14:46
flaper87So, again, my point is:14:46
flaper87s/point/question/14:46
flaper87What exactly do we want to discuss there?14:46
mclarenEven the exercise of walking through what we have and collectively looking for holes would be useful.14:46
flaper87What's the output we expect?14:46
nikhilaha moment! :P14:46
jokke_can we get those details to the session proposal and continue from there (We're running out of time)14:46
flaper87jokke_: +114:47
mclarenSure, I'll try to add something.14:47
flaper87mclaren: mind adding the expected output and specific topics to the session proposal?14:47
flaper87cheers!14:47
jokke_:)14:47
flaper87:D14:47
flaper87Proposal #15 Glance rolling upgrades14:48
flaper87rosmaita: was that you?14:48
rosmaitayes14:48
flaper87I'm curious to know if you've given this a try14:48
rosmaitanot me personally14:48
flaper87I think it's an important topic (hope others think so too)14:48
mclarenI do14:48
rosmaitathey have it almost done in Nova, and that's way more complicated than glance14:48
flaper87It'd be interesting to gather feedback on the topic and perhaps run some tests14:48
flaper87mclaren: w00h0000014:49
flaper87mclaren: wait, was that re-rolling upgrades ?14:49
flaper87:D14:49
mclaren(I was happy to see Abhishek's mail)14:49
mclarenpff14:49
flaper87Right, I was under the impression that Glance is not really far from supporting r-upgrades14:49
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flaper87it's not like some work has been done there but it doesn't have an overly complicated architecture14:50
flaper87I guess there are no comments14:51
flaper87or my internet connection dropped14:51
flaper87Anyway, it'd be cool to have some feedback on that14:51
flaper87!ping14:51
openstackpong14:51
flaper87yay114:51
flaper87ok14:51
flaper87#topic Open Discussion14:52
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jokke_I have not tried nor even looked closely into it so can't say14:52
flaper87remember PTL elections close today14:52
flaper87Vote if you haven't :)14:52
* jokke_ is always few seconds late before topic change :P14:52
rosmaitadid we skip some session proposals, or did my connection drop?14:52
flaper87we skipped some!14:53
jokke_rosmaita: flaper87 just went through the very empty ones14:53
flaper87There are too many for a single meeting14:53
flaper87:D14:53
rosmaitaok, just checking14:53
rosmaita:)14:53
flaper87We can go through more heated ones next week if there are questions there14:53
* jokke_ likes the fact that we have way too many sessions proposals this time14:53
flaper87yes!14:53
* flaper87 loves that14:54
nikhiljokke_: you do! o//14:54
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flaper87That's why I think we should ask all the questions14:54
mfedosinAlso there should be a session about race conditions14:54
flaper87ok, I guess there are no open discussion topics today14:54
flaper87mfedosin: add it :D14:54
nikhilflaper87: how did you come up with your nick? :P14:54
jokke_nikhil: I'm not saying I agree with all of them, but this is better situation that truing to figure out topics for last two sessions 2min before deadline14:54
flaper87mfedosin: I'd make it HA14:54
flaper87nikhil: LOL, It's super easy and it provides way too much information about me14:55
flaper87Name+Lastname+BirthYear14:55
flaper87:D14:55
flaper87I wanted flaper but flaper.com was not available14:55
nikhilNice! (I was missing some info)14:55
mclarenIt's like the movies when they guess your password :-)14:55
mfedosinnikhil: for you it is Niko8714:55
jokke_mclaren: :)14:56
flaper87and people still call me falper because it's dumb to say nicks+numbers outloud14:56
nikhilmfedosin: that's almost a russian name14:56
flaper87nikhil: u 87 too ?14:56
jokke_mfedosin: nikkom87 :)14:56
nikhilflaper87: heck yeah!14:56
* flaper87 highfives nikhil14:56
nikhil\o14:56
nikhiljokke_: :P14:56
flaper87ok folks!14:56
nikhiljokke_: I've considered nikkom as my website14:56
mfedosinflaper87: nikhil ++14:56
nikhilbut my family will disapprove of it14:57
nikhilmfedosin: too 87!14:57
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nikhilanyways, don't wannna block people14:57
flaper87hahaha14:57
jokke_nikhil: family approval is way too overrated14:57
nikhiljokke_: heh14:57
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flaper87tty'all next week! Please, add more info to proposals and questions as well14:57
flaper87#endmeeting14:57
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TravT#startmeeting openstack search15:00
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openstackMeeting started Thu Mar 24 15:00:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is TravT. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search'15:00
TravTo/15:00
sjmc7morning15:00
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TravTmorning15:00
lei-zho/15:00
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TravTRick is out sick today, i think15:01
yingjunmorning/night15:01
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rosmaitao/15:01
TravTo/ yingjun15:01
TravTlakshmi should join shortly15:01
TravTagenda is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda15:01
TravTif there is anything you want to add, please go ahead!15:02
nikhilo/15:02
TravT#topic Mitaka RC1 done15:02
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TravTWe had quite a push to finish things out in RC115:02
rosmaitaTravT: good job!15:02
itishaHey!15:03
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nikhilohai itisha!15:03
TravThttps://launchpad.net/searchlight/+milestone/mitaka-rc115:03
TravTwe have some cool stuff make it15:03
TravTbut this coming release, we will need to avoid the FFE's15:04
TravTthis does mean the repo is tagged and we have a stable/mitaka branch now15:04
TravTsince we do have some bugs floating into RC2, we'll be following the backport process15:05
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TravTbasically, a fix has to be made to master and merged15:05
TravTthen we cherry pick it to the stable/mitaka branch15:05
TravT#topic Mitaka RC215:06
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TravThttps://launchpad.net/searchlight/+milestone/mitaka-rc215:06
TravTThe tough ones are already underway.15:07
TravTthe medium and two undecided are just documentation fixes, I think.15:07
TravTi was looking at the generated release notes yesterday15:08
TravTand the format is a little weird15:08
TravTdoes anybody know where those actually get published to?15:08
TravTrosmaita any ideas?15:09
rosmaitanot sure15:09
rosmaitanikhil?15:10
nikhilhi15:10
nikhilwas distracted, sorry15:10
nikhiloh the reno stuff15:10
rosmaitaTravT is wondering where the released notes are published15:10
nikhilI think here15:11
nikhil#link http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/index.html15:11
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nikhilor at least a page related to it15:11
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TravTyeah, i can see the release but not the notes15:12
TravThttp://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/index.html15:12
sjmc7_sorry, got disconnected15:12
TravTno worries15:12
TravTwell, anyway, i can see the release notes generated in a recent build15:12
TravThttp://docs-draft.openstack.org/56/296356/3/check/gate-searchlight-releasenotes/940f3a1//releasenotes/build/html/mitaka.html15:12
TravTand saw we might have missed a few things15:12
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TravTso, i'll try to put a patch up to correct that.15:13
TravTif there is anything missing from this list for bugs for rc2, please let me know or target the bug yourself:15:13
TravThttps://launchpad.net/searchlight/+milestone/mitaka-rc215:13
sjmc7there were a couple of patches i think we already moved to rc2 cos they weren;’t ready for 115:14
TravThmm, okay, well, re-target them if we didn't already.15:15
TravT#topic searchlight-ui15:15
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TravTstill waiting for infra to move the repo under openstack NS15:16
TravTthierry +1'd the governance change15:16
TravTand i addressed a review on the infra patch yesterday.15:16
TravTyesterday after server side stuff died down a bit, i started doing some little touchups to the plugin15:17
TravTinstructions for it should actually work now..15:17
TravThttps://github.com/ttripp/searchlight-ui15:17
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TravThave a couple other minor touch ups to do to it15:17
TravTfor mitaka15:18
sjmc7i installed it yesterday, seemed to work fine15:18
TravTthanks...15:18
TravTdavid-lyle saw you dropped15:18
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TravTso just FYI that i've been doing some minor fixes to the searchlight-ui repo15:18
TravTokay, that's all for that for now.15:19
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TravT#topic newton15:19
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TravTi've started "grooming" the blueprints a bit15:20
TravThttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight15:20
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TravTi think next week we should go through them together and start talking priorities15:20
nikhilI've a question after the update is over15:21
TravTbut if there is something that you'd like to have considered for newton that isn't on there, please add it15:21
TravTnikhil: re this or just in general?15:21
nikhilregarding this and may be in general :)15:21
TravTgo ahead!15:22
nikhilWe (artifacts team) had a chat with app-catalog folks yesterday15:22
nikhilon their requirements for artifacts and how they should work15:22
nikhilone things came up again and again15:22
nikhilthey want to scale the registry of artifacts across internet (www -- basically)15:23
david-lyleTravT: net split ended up on the wrong side15:23
nikhilare folks around then?15:23
TravTroll call!15:24
TravTi'm here15:24
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sjmc7still here15:24
rosmaitahere15:24
nikhilI will continue15:24
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nikhilthey were hoping to see if they can use SL or if they should use elastic search for this15:24
nikhilmostly they good information out to the users and that's real time-like update15:25
TravTif they have any RBAC concerns, then i think taking advantage of searchlight concepts would be very beneficial to them15:25
sjmc7what do you mean about ‘scale it across the internet'?15:25
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nikhilthe way app-catalog is setup right now is a website apps.openstack.org and they are planning to run a Glare behind it15:25
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nikhilthe end users can be anyone in the world15:26
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TravTso, how do they deploy this today?15:26
nikhiland they will have read access to listing, download etc15:26
TravTdo they have multiple datacenters with replicated databases behind it?15:26
nikhilit used to be hard coded and now they are using experimental API (not sure though at what capacity exactly)15:27
nikhilTravT: nah!15:27
nikhilI don't know what their plan is around geo-spatial HA15:27
nikhilbut they seemed to be on a plan to have a federated like setup15:27
nikhilfor scientific community for the most part15:28
nikhilfor eg. different National labs would want to share images, templates etc assets15:28
nikhiland keep them versioned and tagged15:28
nikhilall of it kept in app-catalog15:28
nikhilbut they may run a Glare on their end as well (or some other too)15:29
nikhilthat will get the latest of the assets from app-catalog into the local host15:29
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nikhil(cloning -- if you may)15:29
TravTso who all is on this team?15:30
nikhilartifacts or app catalog?15:30
nikhil(both are different teams)15:30
TravTso is Glare and "artifacts" team the same thing now?15:31
nikhil(and app catalog is a consumer of artifacts)15:31
nikhilTravT: correct15:31
TravTdo you know their timeline?15:31
nikhilGLARE == GLance Artifacts REpository15:31
nikhilTravT: there wasn't a timeline posted. we're still working on the Glare API approval from defcore etc folks15:32
nikhilmay be this is newton may be ocata15:32
nikhil(hence, regarding this and may be in general)15:32
TravTokay, it sounds interesting.15:32
nikhilanyways, the specific reason I brought this up was -- would we consider adding artifacts support?15:33
sjmc7we already have a BP for artifact support, although it’s not very well fleshed out15:33
TravTativelkov brought this up at the last summit15:33
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nikhilyeah, but the API and architecture is now completely changed (Again!)15:33
TravTso we entered a low BP15:33
TravTyeah, that's what he mentioned15:33
TravTthat there needed to be some more work on glare first15:34
nikhilit won't be very different from Glance15:34
nikhilI mean Glare15:34
nikhil(just more generic)15:34
nikhilbut Glance was a tough one with the prop protections and tags and notifications (Afair)15:35
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TravTwell, if their is a desire for any authentication / authorization / management tooling around ES, then SL has added benefit over starting from scratch with ES15:35
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TravTtheir -> there15:35
nikhiloh one more thing, they do not have/need keystone support15:35
nikhilthey use some other sort of authN15:36
sjmc7i think we maybe need to take this offline15:36
nikhilbut I thought the UI and may be horizon integration would be benefitial15:36
nikhilsure15:36
nikhilI wanted to know: what would be blockers? may be the lessons learnt will make things easier?15:36
nikhilthat we can discuss offline15:37
sjmc7auth would be one we’d need to discuss15:37
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TravTyeah other auth provider is something we also need to look further into for swift, i think...15:37
sjmc7deployment would be another; if it’s not colocated with SL, there’s got to be a mechanism for getting information into SL15:37
TravTnikhil, would the timeline for discussing this call for something pre-summit or is this a potential summit session?15:38
nikhilTravT: I was thinking at the summit should be good enough. May be even at the contributors meetup would work.15:38
nikhildepending on the availability and priorities15:39
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david-lylenikhil: Glare doesn't use keystone?15:39
nikhildavid-lyle: oh sorry, it's app catalog that doesn't need it.15:39
sjmc7the app catalog presumably doesn’t15:39
nikhilGlare will be exactly like Glance on the basics of openstack.15:40
david-lyleok, less confused now15:40
sjmc7so no keystone at all, not just a federated provider?15:40
nikhilI prolly shouldn15:40
nikhilshouldn't have used the word federated15:41
david-lylecommunity app-catalog isn't running on top of openstack15:41
sjmc7yeah, we should maybe not make wild assertions here. we’ll track them down at the summit15:41
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david-lyleIIUC15:41
nikhildavid-lyle: yes and now they want to use artifacts (glare) to store assets15:41
nikhilsjmc7: correct15:41
david-lylenikhil: where?15:42
nikhilI brought this up to understand the project priorities and see if we can try to collaborate and get some momentum on this in newton even if it's just small things15:42
sjmc7ok. we’d need to understand the glare data model first off to be able to index anything15:42
sjmc7and then look at how they plan to deploy it in this instance15:43
nikhildavid-lyle: right now (afict) they hard code the links to assets15:43
nikhildavid-lyle: they will want to run a Glare backing the apps.openstack.org website15:43
* david-lyle still confused, but willing to learn more later15:44
nikhilsounds good.15:44
sjmc7i think i’ll have that inscribed on my gravestone, david-lyle15:44
david-lyle:)15:44
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david-lylethat's one fun authorization model15:45
nikhilsorry about the confusion folks..15:45
david-lylefun as in ¯\_(ツ)_/¯15:45
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TravTnikhil: thanks for bringing it up15:45
nikhil:)15:45
TravTit does sound like a good summit conversation15:46
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nikhillooking forward to it15:46
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TravTonly one other thing i had to mention15:47
TravT#topic notification bugs15:47
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TravTsjmc7 already started and we should continue to get notification bugs / bps filed against other projects.15:48
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TravTgetting as much data via notification as possible is critical to scalability15:48
sjmc7yeah. nova’s the big one15:49
TravTyeah, we need to figure out the versioned notifications with them.15:49
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TravTi opened a bp on that15:49
TravThttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/nova-versioned-notifications15:49
sjmc7yes, that too15:49
TravTwith us...15:49
TravTyingjun: have you made any progress on hypervisors?15:49
yingjunnot yet15:50
* TravT he might be asleep by now15:50
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sjmc7:)15:50
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TravTyingjun okay, i think that one will be pretty important to us.15:51
TravTokay...15:51
TravT#topic open discussion15:52
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yingjunyes, i’ll put a initial patch recently without the notification15:52
sjmc7are there notificaitons at all for hypervisors?15:53
yingjunno15:53
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TravThttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hypervisor-notification15:54
sjmc7ok15:54
TravTwe'll need to flesh that out a bit... perhaps after yingjun does initial plugin15:54
TravTbut soon enough to maybe get it noticed in nova land15:54
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rosmaitai have a question about that15:55
rosmaitawho is hypervisor info aimed at?15:55
sjmc7admins15:55
rosmaitai thought the whole point of hte cloud is users don't worry15:56
rosmaitahmmm ... you'd hope they'd have some kind of inventory system15:56
TravTthis is for operators15:57
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rosmaitaok15:57
TravTrosmaita do you still do any nova work?15:57
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rosmaitasort of15:58
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rosmaitastill mostly glance, but some nova15:58
yingjunit would be helpful if someone could move on the hypervisor thing in nova..15:59
TravTokay.15:59
sjmc7anyone can submit a patch :)15:59
TravTmaybe rosmaita knows the right person to bribe, though.15:59
TravT;)15:59
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rosmaitai'll ask johnthetubaguy what he thinks16:00
TravTcool, thanks!16:00
rosmaitathough he'll be away until tuesday16:00
rosmaitanp16:00
TravTguess we're out of time for today.16:00
TravT#endmeeting16:00
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prometheanfireodyssey4me: hi16:01
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prometheanfireno logs, let the chaos comence16:01
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odyssey4me#startmeeting OpenStack-Ansible16:02
openstackMeeting started Thu Mar 24 16:02:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is odyssey4me. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:02
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odyssey4me#topic Agenda & roll call16:02
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odyssey4me#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting16:03
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oneswigo/16:03
d34dh0r53sorry, always pre-roll call raise my hand16:03
mattto/16:03
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odyssey4meThe only action item from last week was for me to release Liberty 12.0.8 and Kilo 11.2.11, which was done - so we're good.16:04
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prometheanfire\o/16:05
odyssey4meone of our topics from last week slipped the agenda as it was stuck on the bottom - I only noticed it this week16:05
odyssey4me#topic Release notes in IRRs16:05
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automagicallyo/16:05
odyssey4mepalendae ping?16:05
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palendaeThat one's been a while. So I had a question regarding release notes in repositories. I think the current state is to make a change in the repositories then put the release note in openstack-ansible16:06
palendaeHowever, I think putting the release note in just one of the repositories potentially misses communication for either of the audiences - those who consume it as a whole, and those who take just a role16:06
palendaeCurrently, there isn't tooling to "roll up" role release notes, though16:07
palendaeSo I'm not sure what would be best, but I think both people using OSA as a whole and people using individual roles should be able to see their relevant release notes close to the changes16:07
palendaeI think I'm done laying out my thoughts there :)16:08
automagically+1 on release notes being visible in the individual roles for those who are using them16:08
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automagicallyA related topic is how tags/releases are going to be handled on the IRRs16:09
odyssey4meyeah, I would prefer for release notes to be coupled with the patch as intended - so I'd like to see that trend continue, and I'd be happy to instrument all the roles for release note publishing16:09
odyssey4meI do also agree that there should ideally be some sort of roll-up mechanism16:09
spotz+1 and I think it's on the agenda for summit16:09
palendaeOk. We may have to engage with reno to work on the roll up16:10
odyssey4meour basic agreement thus far is for all roles to br branched using the openstack branch name - eg: stable/mitaka - and to be tagged when we release mitaka16:10
odyssey4meThe tag numbers, I can't recall whether we got to an agreement at the mid-cycle on that.16:11
jmccrory_think it was tag on commit16:11
prometheanfireis OSA following the mitaka branch of projects that have that yet?16:11
odyssey4meWe should perhaps have a focused discussion on that next week. I'd rather not tangent on the release note topic this week.16:11
automagicallyFair enough16:12
odyssey4mepalendae would you like to engage in #openstack-release regarding a release note roll-up?16:12
odyssey4meor would you prefer me to?16:12
palendaeI can16:12
odyssey4meok, it's not urgent - but I think it's be best to raise it as a desired intent prior to the summit16:12
odyssey4meI'll follow up at the summit in the cross-project/releases sessions.16:13
palendaeYeah. It may be a bug/blueprint for reno16:13
palendaeProbably blueprint16:13
odyssey4meinitially just have a chat with dhellmann and take it from there16:13
odyssey4me#action palendae to discuss the possibility of cross-repository release note roll-ups (in publishing) for the roll-up of release notes from the roles into the OSA integrated releases16:14
stevelleI'd rather we have roll up before we scatter release notes to the wind. The primary case is to collect them in OSA and we should still try to serve that first IMO.16:14
odyssey4mestevelle right, for the moment I'd prefer that we have the reno with the patch - and then ask for a reno patch in the integrated repo16:15
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odyssey4methis covers us while we figure out whether roll-up is an option16:15
odyssey4meany objections to that strategy?16:15
spotznope16:16
odyssey4meI think we've largely been doing that in the last few weeks anyway.16:16
stevelleit if means submitting two renos, it's additional work but I can accept that16:16
palendaeWould they get different SHAs?16:16
palendaeAnd does that matter?16:16
palendaeBy SHAs I mean the IDs on the reno filename16:17
odyssey4mepalendae very possibly, and we'll have to cross that bridge when we get there I guess16:17
palendaeOk. I can see if that matters16:17
palendaeOr the file can be copied16:17
odyssey4meah, that all depends on the submitter - personally I just copy the same file over16:17
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odyssey4meI would prefer that to be done as it may help reduce duplication if we get to the point of rollingup16:17
palendaeYeah16:17
odyssey4mecore reviewers, please bear these things in mind when doing reviews16:18
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odyssey4me#info core reviewers to expect release notes with patches (where appropriate), and the same reno should be submitted to the main repo16:18
odyssey4mehappy to move on to the next topic?16:19
palendaeI am, yes16:19
d34dh0r53yep16:19
odyssey4me#topic Early tag of Liberty16:20
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d34dh0r53tys16:20
cloudnullhi d34dh0r53 :)16:20
d34dh0r53mornings :)16:21
odyssey4me#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/29181016:21
d34dh0r53The RPC-O project has identified the issue that odyssey4me just linked to as a blocker in our current release candidate and would like to petition an early SHA bump in OSA so that we can cleanly consume that fix16:22
cloudnull+116:22
odyssey4meMany thanks to logan- for identifying the bug and triaging it with cloudnull - I'm not sure of who else was involved.16:23
d34dh0r53logan-, cloudnull yes thank you both16:23
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odyssey4mePersonally, I think due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1559380 we should do an early tag of both Kilo and Liberty.16:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1559380 in openstack-ansible trunk "repo build broken due to pywbem 0.8.1" [High,Fix committed] - Assigned to Kevin Carter (kevin-carter)16:23
odyssey4meA SHA bump will naturally follow.16:24
prometheanfireodyssey4me: that would be nice16:24
d34dh0r53+116:24
prometheanfire+116:24
palendaeI'd agree for the pywbem issue, not familiar with the other16:24
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palendaeOh, yeah... +1 to both16:24
automagically+1 for both16:24
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logan-yeah +1 for pywbem alone haha16:25
spotz+1 for both16:25
odyssey4mewhile I added a reno this morning to identify the known issue, we need to tag for people to consume it: https://review.openstack.org/29706016:25
odyssey4meanother issue identified after the last tag for liberty was https://review.openstack.org/297037 which affects minor upgrades16:25
odyssey4meso yeah, I definitely think that we're due to tag16:26
odyssey4meany objections?16:26
jmccrory+1 lot of good reasons16:26
stevelleno objections, good justifications16:26
odyssey4meok, good - I'll request releases after this meeting and submit the SHA bump patches immediately after the request has submitted16:27
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odyssey4me#action odyssey4me to release next tags for Kilo/Liberty and submit reviews to SHA bump in both16:27
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odyssey4me#topic Newton Summit Planning16:27
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odyssey4meNothing specific to say here - the etherpads are still up and available to make notes, comments, etc on.16:28
odyssey4mePlease do so especially in the brainstorm one, as I'd like to reference that for the community day and the housekeeping session.16:28
odyssey4meAny questions or comments before we shift to discussing the Mitaka release status?16:29
jmccroryodyssey4me on that last one real quick, liberty will need a SHA bump ahead of tagging to pick up the neutron fix. it was only merged yesterday16:29
prometheanfirefor sooth16:30
odyssey4mejmccrory we SHA bump after the tag16:30
prometheanfiredownstreams can consume the sha bump directly16:30
prometheanfireI know we do (for liberty+)16:30
odyssey4methe tag releases the pywbem fix, the sha bump can be consumed directly by RPC so it achieves the goal16:30
jmccroryah ok gotcha16:30
odyssey4melogan- do you rely on tags or are you happy to run from the head of liberty?16:30
logan-i run from head16:31
odyssey4meI'd like us to run on the updated SHA's for at least a week before we tag again - there may be gremlins. :)16:31
palendaes/may be/are/16:31
odyssey4meok awesome, so it covers the needs of both stakeholders who are specifically interested16:31
palendaeIt's just the known gremlins are quelled for now :)16:32
spotzYou say that like gremlins are bad odyssey4me:)16:32
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d34dh0r53only after midnight16:32
odyssey4menothing a power hose can't solve :p16:32
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odyssey4me#topic Mitaka release16:33
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odyssey4mealright, so we've updated carried files/templates16:33
odyssey4methe integrated SHA bump is failing - mattt's been looking into some issues16:33
odyssey4meit seems like there's an issue with glance using swift as a store - we're not sure if it's a config change needed, or a regression in the glance_store lib yet16:34
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matttodyssey4me: new feature introduced is buggy from what i can tell, and there is no option to turn it off16:35
matttso we're stuck between a rock and a hard place16:35
odyssey4mefor anyone that has a gap to try it out, please spend some time looking into failures when applying https://review.openstack.org/29679916:35
odyssey4mealso look for deprecated config notices, etc16:35
odyssey4memattt if it is a bug, then we should raise that as a critical one for Mitaka - a lot of people use swift as a store for glance16:36
matttodyssey4me: sigmavirus24 has asked that i hold off until he has had a chance to properly evaluate16:36
odyssey4mecool, thanks for the support sigmavirus24 - and thanks to mattt for digging into it16:37
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odyssey4mejmccrory automagically cloudnull d34dh0r53 stevelle mattt hughsaunders andymccr if you're looking into anything related to the Mitaka release, can you give us an update. I'd like to make sure we all know where we're at and where we need help.16:38
odyssey4meAnyone else looking into anything, please also chime in.16:38
automagicallynot yet, still testing the repo_build changes16:38
* d34dh0r53 has been focused primarily on liberty, sorry16:38
andymccrstill need to get this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293911/16:38
matttnot looking into anything specific, wanted to get going on nova functional test today but got distracted tracking down the glance failure to a specific SHA16:38
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andymccrotherwise the state between liberty --> mitaka will change due to the swift_sync --> swift merge16:38
cloudnullmost of my testing how to make things go faster.16:39
odyssey4meandymccr yep, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293911/ needs https://review.openstack.org/296799 to merge - so perhaps you can help figure things out?16:39
cloudnullgeared at mitaka16:39
odyssey4meandymccr an alternative may be to figure out which SHA bumps are required at minimum to make the integrated build work - then we can bump in two stages to get your patch in16:40
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andymccrso we need that patch to merge to fix gating, but its failing gating atm?16:41
stevelleWe haven't had any progress with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290834 at this point. I might be able to revisit it this week but it seems like additional communication is needed16:41
odyssey4meone way may be to pin glance_store temporarily - mattt?16:41
odyssey4meandymccr yeah, nothing gets through the integrated gate right now16:41
matttodyssey4me: don't think that will work ? https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/requirements.txt#L5116:41
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odyssey4memattt I thought that master may have moved on, but https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/stable/mitaka/requirements.txt#L51 :(16:44
matttyep so we're pretty much screwed at the moment16:44
odyssey4mestevelle gerrit appears to be broken16:44
odyssey4mewhat was that review regarding?16:44
stevelle"Resolve oslo_config deprecations in nova.conf"16:44
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odyssey4meah yes16:45
odyssey4meok, so considering the time we have available to us - when do we think we should target to release?16:45
odyssey4meit seems like we need at least this week and next to sort out some issues and prep16:45
andymccreaster weekend for us too16:46
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odyssey4meprojected mitaka release date is 2016-04-0716:46
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matttso no new features should be going into osa master right now right :)16:47
odyssey4meonce we do an RC, nothing but major bug fixes16:47
odyssey4mebut the RC will mean we branch16:47
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prometheanfiregood16:48
matttfeels like we're still going a 100 mph16:48
prometheanfirenever slow down16:48
odyssey4meI propose that we target an RC for 5 April. Perhaps 7 April (same as upstream release date).16:48
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odyssey4meonce we branch, that means that we can dive into Newton stuff and prep reviews for consideration and discussion at the summit.16:49
spotzOdyssey4me if we have low bugs hold off?16:49
odyssey4memy only concern right now would be to merge anything that's a bug change and may introduce regressions16:50
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spotzI'm just docs16:50
odyssey4meI'd rather see us hold off on those until we've branched, and let those sort of changes bake for a while before we backport.16:51
odyssey4meThoughts?16:51
odyssey4meDoc updates are always good. Keep 'em coming!16:51
spotzI'm good with that16:51
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automagicallyBake then backport seems reasonable16:51
prometheanfire+116:51
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matttagree16:54
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odyssey4melol, got netsplit :/16:56
d34dh0r53hah16:56
spotzYou were just ditching us we know16:56
odyssey4meok, we're out of time - we'll discuss this again next week - I think we'll be in a better position to confidently set a date then16:57
odyssey4meThank you all for your time!16:57
odyssey4me#endmeeting16:57
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LouisF#startmeeting service_chaining16:59
openstackMeeting started Thu Mar 24 16:59:39 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:59
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:59
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pcarverhi16:59
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LouisFpcarver: hi cathy just got back from business trip and will not join today17:00
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pcarveryes, I saw her email.17:00
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LouisFi was out last week at onf but i see you and vikram were on the meeting17:01
pcarveryes. It was pretty quiet.17:01
pcarverWe talked a bit but I think it was pretty much just the two of us17:01
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LouisFlooks quiet today also17:03
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pcarverYes. I don't know if there's anything major. There's been some minor bug fix activity.17:04
pcarverMost of my attention has been elsewhere.17:04
vishnoianilLouisF, pcarver hey17:04
LouisFyes https://review.openstack.org/29540717:04
LouisFvishnoianil: hi17:04
vishnoianilLouisF, pcarver let me introduce myself, i am contributor/committer  to opendaylight project (ovsdb,controller,openflowplugin)17:05
mohankumarHi LouisF, Pcarver17:05
pcarvervishnoianil: welcome17:05
vishnoianilLouisF, i am interested in contributing to odl sfc driver in networking-sfc17:05
vishnoianilpcarver, thanks :)17:06
LouisFvishnoianil: i had a brief chat with yi yang at onf on that driver17:06
vishnoianilLouisF, pcarver , just wanted to know if anybody already working on that with whom i can sync up17:06
pcarverThat would be great. I'm very interested in seeing many drivers developed17:06
LouisFvishnoianil: do you work with him?17:06
pcarverI don't think an ODL driver has been started17:06
vishnoianilLouisF, I work with Sridhar (tacker)17:07
vishnoianili know YiYang ( i believe from Intel)?17:07
LouisFvishnoianil: yes he is at intel17:07
LouisFvishnoianil: i think it would be good to contact him17:08
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vishnoianilLouisF, any idea whether he is planning to contribute / start on the driver?17:08
vishnoianilLouisF, cool, i will sync up with him.17:08
s3wonghello. Sorry, a bit late17:08
LouisFvishnoianil: he is located in china i believe so he is not on this call17:08
vishnoianilin case he is still interesting in contributing on it17:09
LouisFs3wong: hi, we are discussing the odl driver for networking-sfc17:09
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s3wongLouisF: oh, OK. trozet (Tim Rozet from Redhat) has experience there and is also interested to contribute ODL SFC driver for networking-sfc17:09
LouisFvishnoianil: contact yi yang on the odl driver and its design17:10
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LouisFvishnoianil: there is an onos driver already17:10
vishnoianils3wong, yes, i had a discussion with him (Tim) as well17:11
s3wongvishnoianil: good17:11
LouisFs3wong: yes i saw his comments on tacker-to-networking-sfc driver17:11
vishnoianilLouisF, so i believe Tim, Yi are interested, so i think we can need to discuss it to make some progress on it17:11
LouisFvishnoianil: that would be good17:12
s3wongLouisF: as he already wrote a driver for ODL SFC in Tacker (not committed), I think his experience would be invaluable for ODL SFC integration here17:12
vishnoianilLouisF, s3wong do we have any existing blueprint for sfc odl driver?17:12
s3wongvishnoianil: don't think so17:12
LouisFvishnoianil: no17:12
vishnoianils3wong, yup totally agree, i will be keeping Tim in the loop17:12
s3wongvishnoianil: great!17:13
vishnoianils3wong, LouisF okay, i will work with tim.Yi to comeup with the blueprint and lets start from there17:13
LouisFvishnoianil: that would be a great start17:13
s3wongvishnoianil: sounds good!17:13
vishnoianils3wong, LouisF , is there any place where this action item can be put against me, so if anyone else is interested they can reach out to me ?17:14
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LouisFvishnoianil: we can add to the wiki17:14
s3wongvishnoianil: not really... but once you added the blueprint, you can assign that to yourself17:15
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s3wongvishnoianil: you can further add an item on networking-sfc launchpad and assign that to yourself as well17:15
LouisFvishnoianil: btw the tacker / networking-sfc integration spec is at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290771/17:15
LouisFvishnoianil: please review17:16
vishnoianils3wong, LouisF great, i will add it to launchpad and then will push the blueprint17:16
vishnoianilLouisF, yes, i am aware of the networking-sfc intergration spec, i will review it17:16
LouisFvishnoianil: thanks17:16
s3wongvishnoianil: ODL SFC networking-sfc driver isn't a dependency on tacker/networking-sfc integration, though it is a requirement for OPNFV17:17
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LouisFs3wong: agree17:17
s3wongvishnoianil: so it is great that you and trozet step up to contribute there. Thanks!17:17
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vishnoianilLouisF, s3wong , yes it's to add support for SDN controller as a backend sfc provider17:18
vishnoianiland OPNFV is a first big consumer17:19
LouisF#action vishnoianil to add networking-sfc odl driver spec to launchpad17:19
s3wongvishnoianil: looking forward to your spec (please send gerrit review against networking-sfc repo)17:19
vishnoianilLouisF, s3wong sure will do Thanks folks17:20
vishnoianils3wong, LouisF i just noticed i didn't mention my name :)17:20
vishnoianils3wong, LouisF my name is Anil17:20
LouisFvishnoianil: hi Anil, welcome17:21
mohankumarAnil welcome to netwoking-sfc17:21
s3wongvishnoianil: nice to meet you virtually, Anil17:21
vishnoianilLouisF, mohankumar s3wong thanks folks. I am in San Jose area17:21
vishnoianilso if you guys do have hackton, i would be happy to join :)17:22
vishnoianilhackton in bay area17:22
LouisFok moving on17:22
LouisF#topic new work17:23
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trozets3wong, vishnoianil: yeah I mean I have a driver that works with Tacker (bypasses neutron), so we can leverage some of that for the networking-sfc driver17:23
LouisFi posted a list of items at a previous meeting: SDN controller drivers, support of a mixed chain of VM, container, physical device, integration with upstream Tacker,  enhancement of Flow Classifier, Horizon, OAM, Heat,  tempest tests17:24
LouisFi think we have some progress with the odl driver work17:24
s3wongtrozet: yes --- that would be valuable experience for networking-sfc ODL driver; please work with vishnoianil on this. Thanks!17:25
LouisFand also the tacker integration17:25
trozets3wong: yeah vishnoianil and I have a meeting setup netxt week17:25
s3wongtrozet, vishnoianil: great. Thanks!17:25
LouisFtrozet: when is the meeting?17:25
s3wongLouisF: (sorry for hijacking your topic)17:25
trozetLouisF: 3pm EST Monday17:26
LouisFs3wong: np all part of new work17:26
LouisFon openstack-meeting-4?17:26
trozetLouisF: vishnoianil is the organizer, if you want to join that would be cool.  I think its a google hangout17:26
LouisFcan you send details17:26
trozetLouisF: sure send me your email17:27
LouisFlouis.fourie@huawei.com17:27
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trozetLouisF: got it17:27
LouisFtrozet: btw i posted an updated version of the integration spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290771/17:28
LouisFs3wong: trozet please review17:28
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trozetLouisF: will do17:29
s3wongLouisF: sure17:29
trozetLouisF: review mine as well ;) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292196/17:29
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LouisFtrozet: will do17:29
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s3wongtrozet: for that one you are basically just moving it from mitaka to newton, right? :-)17:30
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trozets3wong: yeah and making sure it points to networking-sfc as the driver rather than ODL driver17:30
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s3wongtrozet: cool  :-)17:31
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LouisFtrozet: great17:31
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LouisFmohankumar: what is the status on Horizon?17:32
mohankumarLouisF  For Horizon i didn't get chance to work last week17:32
LouisFmohankumar: ok thanks keep us posted on progress17:33
mohankumarLouisF ,Heat i ve posted 4 patches .. there are some review coments i need to work upon17:34
LouisFmohankumar: thanks what are the patches?17:34
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mohankumarhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/249729/17:35
mohankumarhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/277849/17:35
mohankumarhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/277940/17:35
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mohankumarhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/277988/17:35
LouisFmohankumar: thanks - everyone please review these17:36
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LouisFregarding fc enhancements - vikram had some ideas but he is not on the call - we can pick up next week17:39
mohankumarLouisF , I ve a question  , our code supports port_pairs across OVS in one port_pair_group ?17:40
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LouisFmohankumar: not clear on your question - a port-pair can only be in one PPG17:41
LouisFeach PPG can be in different port-chains17:42
mohankumarLouisF, say  i want to do load-balance among Service Function VMs  which are in different OVS17:43
LouisFmohankumar: ok i see, yes that is possible.17:43
mohankumarLouisF , OK17:44
LouisFthe port-pairs in a PPG can reside on different nodes (HVs)17:44
mohankumarLouisF , thanks17:44
LouisFthe ovs driver we have currently supports that17:45
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LouisF#topic open discussion17:45
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LouisFany questions?17:46
LouisFcomments, ideas?17:46
mohankumarany one downloaded sfc master code and working on it ?17:46
mohankumarme getting some error https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/155760017:46
openstackLaunchpad bug 1557600 in networking-sfc "port-chain-delete failing as "SfcDriverError"" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Mohankumar (mohankumar-n)17:46
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LouisFmohankumar: let me check on that17:48
mohankumarIn stable/liberty  branch  is okay17:48
LouisFmohankumar: ok17:48
mohankumarLouisF , thanks ..Please comment in Lanchpad17:49
LouisFmohankumar: ok17:49
LouisFanything else?17:50
mohankumarthese are bugs filled last week17:50
mohankumarhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/155796017:50
openstackLaunchpad bug 1557960 in networking-sfc "neutron ext-list name fileld should be descriptive " [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Mohankumar (mohankumar-n)17:50
mohankumarhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/155801217:50
mohankumarhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/155802017:50
mohankumarhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/155760017:50
openstackLaunchpad bug 1558012 in networking-sfc "incorrect error message for invalid argument in "neutron port-pair-group-create --port-pair"" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Mohankumar (mohankumar-n)17:50
openstackLaunchpad bug 1558020 in networking-sfc "API document have to modify as per changes introduced in flow classifier" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Mohankumar (mohankumar-n)17:50
openstackLaunchpad bug 1557600 in networking-sfc "port-chain-delete failing as "SfcDriverError"" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Mohankumar (mohankumar-n)17:50
mohankumarplease review it17:50
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LouisFmohankumar: ok will do17:50
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LouisFok then I am going to end17:52
LouisFbye all17:52
mohankumarbye :)17:52
s3wongbye17:52
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s3wong8 minutes saved!17:52
LouisF#endmeeting17:52
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