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SukhdevFolks - time for Ironic/neutron integration meeting16:00
Sukhdevjroll: are you here?16:00
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jrollmorning16:00
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SukhdevLets get started16:00
Sukhdev#startmeeting ironic_neutron16:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jul 13 16:00:52 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ironic_neutron'16:00
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Sukhdev#topic: Agenda16:01
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Sukhdev#link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron16:01
SukhdevGood morning folks, and welcome to the meeting16:01
SukhdevAnybody would like to add anything to the agenda?16:01
Sukhdev#topic: Announcements16:02
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SukhdevLiberty Relase Schedule - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule16:02
SukhdevFeature freeze is 1st week of Sept -16:02
Sukhdevthis means we have appx one and a half month16:03
Sukhdeveven though it is far away - thought I bring to everybody's attention16:03
SukhdevIronic Mid-cycle is in the middle of August16:04
SukhdevThat would be a great time to test and remove any kinks :-)16:04
SukhdevThat is it for me regarding announcements16:04
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Sukhdevanybody wants to share anything?16:05
Sukhdevjroll: ?16:05
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* Sukhdev waiting16:05
jrollI have nothing16:05
jrollwe should start writing code :)16:05
Sukhdevcool - lets move on16:05
jrollalso -- ironic does not feature freeze like other projects any longer16:05
jrollsee http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/ironic-specs/specs/liberty/feature-based-releases.html16:05
Sukhdevjroll: does that mean we can push things at the last minute?16:06
jrollbut it's still a risk for nova/neutron code.16:06
jroll"last minute" is interesting phrasing16:06
jrollit means we're always writing code.16:06
jrollsee the spec for details16:06
Sukhdevjroll: yes - Neutron side will require exceptions in order go after feature freeze16:07
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jrollso someone should start writing the neutron code :)16:07
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Sukhdevjroll: yes16:08
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Sukhdevjroll: I have started to look at the neutron side - there will be few patches16:08
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Sukhdev#topic: Spec Reviews16:09
jrollok16:09
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SukhdevOur both specs are looking very good - almost ready to go16:09
SukhdevI was asking Ironic cores to review them16:09
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jrollyep, I think they're ready16:10
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jrollwe should start writing code so it's ready for review when those land16:10
SukhdevFrom the neutron side, they have been blessed - we need blessing from Ironic side and then we are good to go16:10
Sukhdevthere were few minor comments on the specs - nothing major16:10
SukhdevI am not going to go through them unless somebody wants to bring them up here16:11
lazy_princethats good to know.. :)16:11
SukhdevDoes anybody have any question on the specs?16:11
SukhdevAny question or any discussion point somebody wants to discuss here?16:12
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SukhdevI asked devananda this morning to review these specs - jroll if you can have other ironic cores to review them as well - that would be nice16:13
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jrollI can't tell people what to do, but I've been trying :)16:13
Sukhdevdevananda: we were talking behind your back :-)16:14
devanandaSukhdev: I started reading -- it's come a ways since my last read through. Am setting aside time this afternoon to digest it16:14
Sukhdevdevananda: cool - thanks16:14
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SukhdevLooks like we are good on that front16:15
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Sukhdevif there is nothing else on these specs, lets keep marching through the agenda16:15
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Sukhdev#topic: Patch reviews16:15
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jrollany patches at all to review yet?16:16
SukhdevAt the moment, this is a place holder - I am hoping to see some patches popping up here as we move along towards the feature freeze16:16
Sukhdevjroll: not yet16:17
Sukhdevlauramoore mentioned she is working on one patch16:17
lauramooreI am hoping to put some patches up before next weeks call16:17
Sukhdevjroll: do you need any help with yours?16:17
Sukhdevlauramoore: that will be awesome!!16:17
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SukhdevAnything on the coding front?16:19
jrollSukhdev: I wouldn't be mad if someone wrote the code for me :)16:19
jrollshould be fine on my own though16:19
Sukhdevjroll :-)16:19
Sukhdevjroll: cool - thanks16:20
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Sukhdev#topic: Documentation16:20
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SukhdevI have added this topic to the agenda as well -16:20
Sukhdevwe can use this going forward to discuss any documentation related issues16:21
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Sukhdevamotoki and I discussed the documentation (specifically ML2 interface) last week16:21
SukhdevWe felt we need to explain the details of ML2 interface for the ML2 driver writers so that they can use this Ironic/Neutron interface'16:22
Sukhdevto develop ML2 mechanism drivers for Ironic deployments16:22
Sukhdevamotoki: has decided to volunteer to write something up so that we can review it16:23
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Sukhdevjroll, lauramoore: additionally, I think we need to write some sort of wiki for usability from the Ironic deployment side16:24
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Sukhdevsomething that operators can use - such as how to configure LAGs/MLAGs16:24
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Sukhdevhow to add switch/connectivity information - etc.16:25
Sukhdevany thoughts on this?16:25
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lauramoore:sukhdev, I agree, and was also talking to Tariq about this topic last week16:25
jrollSukhdev: s/wiki/docs/ but I agree16:25
Sukhdevjroll: either way is fine - docs can be easily reviewed - wiki is quick but more adhoc16:26
jrollI mean, it's operator docs16:26
Sukhdevover next few weeks, we can start to formalize on this -16:27
Sukhdevanything else on the documentation?16:27
Sukhdevanybody has anything to add to it?16:27
Sukhdevlauramoore: so Tariq is in agreement?16:28
lauramooreyes, we thought we would start to compile a list of helpful docs and then begin to flesh them out16:28
Sukhdevlauramoore: awesome!!16:29
lauramooreand add them to the docs you already started to compile16:29
lauramooreso yes, in agreement we need to provide them, but havent really started yet on making them concrete16:29
Sukhdevlauramoore: Thanks16:29
lauramooreits another thing on the to-do list for this week!16:30
Sukhdevlauramoore: no worries - first we need code, then we need make it work, and the docs - :-)16:30
Sukhdevanything else?16:30
Sukhdev#topic Open Discussion16:31
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SukhdevWe went through the agenda really quick - I loved it :-)16:31
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SukhdevI have one item - which I will add to the agenda next week16:31
SukhdevIt has to do with the CI16:32
Sukhdevat some point we need to start to think about CI (or automated testing) for this integration16:32
jrollI would love for someone from the neutron side to write an ML2 thing for OVS that supports this stuff16:32
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Sukhdevjroll: I will discuss this in ML2 meeting as well as other Neutron folks to see how/what can be done for this16:34
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Sukhdevanybody has any idea on this subject, I would love to hear it16:34
jrollSukhdev: thanks. just want to make sure this interface is well-tested16:34
Sukhdevjroll: on the neutron side, we have tempest test (which are unit tests) and functional tests16:35
Sukhdevand scenario tests16:35
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jrollSukhdev: right, I want integration tests :)16:36
Sukhdevtempest are unit tests, functional tests are for testing a given function and scenario tests are for end-to-end scenarios16:36
Sukhdevjroll: I am not aware of any such thing -16:37
Sukhdevjroll: scenario tests come close16:37
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Sukhdevjroll: in scenario tests, we use nova APIs to fire away the instances and test the network connectivity16:38
jrollSukhdev: sure, if they're called scenario tests, fine16:38
jrollyeah16:38
jrollok16:38
Sukhdevamotoki: do you have any thoughts on this?16:39
Sukhdevlooks like amotoki is not here today16:39
Sukhdevwell, we will cover that next week16:39
SukhdevI am done -16:39
Sukhdevanybody else wants to bring up anything?16:40
Sukhdevotherwise I give you back 20 min. :)16:40
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SukhdevWell, folks, thanks for attending today's meeting16:41
lauramoorethanks again for hosting the call sukhdev16:41
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Sukhdevlauramoore: my pleasure...16:41
SukhdevThanks folks16:41
Sukhdevbye16:41
Sukhdev#endmeeting16:41
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openstackMeeting ended Mon Jul 13 16:41:45 2015 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:41
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jrollthanks all16:42
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