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| Hunner | o/ | 14:57 |
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| sbadia | hi o/ | 14:57 |
| spredzy | Hello | 14:58 |
| EmilienM | hello | 14:59 |
| EmilienM | #startmeeting puppet-openstack | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 14 15:00:01 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'puppet_openstack' | 15:00 |
| gchamoul | o/ | 15:00 |
| gchamoul | hi everybody! | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | #topic Review past action items | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review past action items (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:00 | |
| EmilienM | "mgagne to start thread on defaults for new config file parameters" | 15:00 |
| crinkle | morning | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | mgagne: should we postpone it (again) ? | 15:01 |
| Hunner | Congrats EmilienM :) | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | Hunner: thanks :-) | 15:01 |
| mgagne | EmilienM: yes, I don't think I'll have time to work on it for a couple of weeks | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | mgagne: ack | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | "spredzy to structure w/ the community what exactly will be created and propose a plan on next meeting" | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | spredzy: same question ^ | 15:02 |
| spredzy | EmilienM, postpone. Didn't have time to work on it this week. | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | spredzy: ack | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | EmilienM Adding the Puppet modules to OpenStack => https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172112/ | 15:02 |
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| EmilienM | I don't know the exact process of it, but it's at least WIP | 15:03 |
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| EmilienM | also, we will have to figure out the moving of our modules from Stackforge to OpenStack namespaces | 15:03 |
| Hunner | They don't like the name? That's odd... | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | and the impact.. | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | Hunner: moving under the big tents implies to use github/openstack (afik) | 15:04 |
| mgagne | have they proposed an alternative or provided a reason? | 15:04 |
| sbadia | EmilienM, ah, anne made a comment about the naming | 15:04 |
| gchamoul | Hunner, mgagne: trademark issue! | 15:04 |
| mgagne | right | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | there is two topics here, naming and moving from stackforge | 15:04 |
| gchamoul | for the sbadia proposition to use Puppet as a Name | 15:04 |
| mgagne | can we ask puppetlabs about it? | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | crinkle: can you take this action? I'm not sure if it's doable | 15:05 |
| Hunner | "PuppetModules"? "AutomationPuppet"? | 15:05 |
| Hunner | Assuming AutomationChef will want one too | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | Hunner: that would require further discussion with the community I think | 15:06 |
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| crinkle | I'm not sure Puppet is descriptive enough, and Puppet Labs is already using it to mean puppet the language | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | well, here we go (naming) | 15:06 |
| gchamoul | sbadia: what's the matter with PuppetOpenstack? | 15:07 |
| mdorman | heh | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | I'll run a discussion around it by the mailing list, implying us, Puppet folks and TC so we can have an open-discussion | 15:07 |
| Hunner | Two hardest things in CS: Cache invalidation and naming things | 15:07 |
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| mgagne | alright, lets move it to the ML | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | mgagne: thanks | 15:08 |
| sbadia | gchamoul, nothing, it's just to be coherant with the rename (Puppet-OpenStacl => OpenStack/Puppet) I mean wiki side, but indeed it's a problem | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to run discussion about Puppet OpenStack naming | 15:08 |
| gchamoul | sbadia: i got it now .. | 15:08 |
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| gchamoul | sbadia: thx | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | sbadia: can I go ahead? | 15:08 |
| sbadia | Hunner, :D | 15:08 |
| sbadia | EmilienM, yep sure | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | "gael,sbadia puppet-rspec 2.x mostly ok (final check in progress) => https://trello.com/c/eHXc1Ryd/4-investigate-the-necessary-change-to-be-rspec-puppet-2-0-0-compliant" | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | that's a great work sbadia & gchamoul - thanks a lot ! | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | we have an item for it later | 15:09 |
| sbadia | puppet-rspec 2.0.0 is ok, thanks a lot gchamoul ! | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | "gael,sbadia adding a check for parameter documentation on our modules => ok https://trello.com/c/tC7ZhPtN/10-add-puppet-lint-param-docs-plugins-to-puppet-lint" | 15:09 |
| sbadia | 2.0.1 unpin rspec 3.x | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | also done | 15:10 |
| Hunner | ~> 2.0.0 then? | 15:10 |
| sbadia | Hunner, yep | 15:10 |
| gchamoul | yes | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | and last action so far: "crinkle to send email about PTL: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/061251.html" | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | which is also done. | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | #topic Summit organization | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Summit organization (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:11 | |
| sbadia | for documentation things the check is present everywhere, but in some module there are only the parameter doc (and no doc) | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | sbadia: oops, sorry maybe i ran too fast | 15:11 |
| sbadia | np :) | 15:11 |
| sbadia | EmilienM, congrats :) | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | #info OPS meetup should happen on Wednesday 9:50 - 10:30 in Big Room 2 - needs to be confirmed | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-summit-ops-puppet | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | it's empty right now :) | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to runs a thread on OpenStack OPS Mailing list and try to find some topics | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | feel free to feed it of course :) | 15:12 |
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| EmilienM | about design sessions, I asked for a room for one day. I'm still waiting for approval | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | I'll let you know as soon I got it | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | I also created an etherpad: | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-summit-design-puppet | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | same thing, we will feed it the next weeks | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | something else about sessions so far? | 15:14 |
| sbadia | nothing for me right now | 15:15 |
| spredzy | nop | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | before ending this topic, I would like to propose a diner + something during the summit, with all Puppet OpenStack contributors in Vancouver | 15:15 |
| gchamoul | :'( | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | anyone is welcome to join | 15:15 |
| mdorman | that’d be cool. we talked about doing that in paris but i’m not sure it actually happened | 15:15 |
| sbadia | yep cool idea! | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | I'm just open to early feedback here and now, so I can run a real discussion and maybe organize it | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | I did not want to pollute the ML | 15:16 |
| gchamoul | ML polution is bad! ;-P | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | I think I won't pollute the ML with a big thread. I'll send one single mail with an etherpad link where we discuss on it | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | what do you think? | 15:17 |
| spredzy | +1 | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | so everyone can join | 15:17 |
| gchamoul | +1 | 15:18 |
| Hunner | Yup | 15:18 |
| sbadia | ok for a mail + etherpad | 15:18 |
| mdorman | +1 | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to run a thread about Summit diner with Puppet OpenStack folks | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | s/thread/single-mail/ :-) | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | #topic blockers to make a Kilo release | 15:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "blockers to make a Kilo release (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:19 | |
| EmilienM | well, I think it's fair if we don't make a release in the same time as other projects this time | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | I plan to follow OpenStack releases for Liberty. | 15:19 |
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| EmilienM | I would like to raise here our blockers | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | I think Keystone v3 API support is one of them | 15:20 |
| Hunner | Which is part of why we didn't go with aviator, yeah? | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | anyone running Kilo ? | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | Hunner: yes | 15:21 |
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| EmilienM | crinkle: are you aware about any blocker else ? | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | which is a big one btw... | 15:22 |
| crinkle | I don't know of any, but I'm sure there are config changes that we should find and fix | 15:22 |
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| EmilienM | ok. I think we should first ask to our community if someone is running Kilo | 15:23 |
| EmilienM | and get the feedback | 15:23 |
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| EmilienM | in // I'll work on reading doc/release notes to check if new params are missing ( I have the bandwidth) | 15:24 |
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| EmilienM | someone wants to make it otherwise? | 15:24 |
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| EmilienM | #action Investigate Kilo updates and new eventual parameters for OpenStack services | 15:25 |
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| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to ask ML if someone is running Kilo and ask for feedback | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | the first action has no name, because It's open to everyone | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | anything else on Kilo ? | 15:26 |
| EmilienM | #topic TripleO CI integration | 15:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "TripleO CI integration (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:26 | |
| sbadia | EmilienM, yep we can fill a card in trello (for the first) | 15:26 |
| EmilienM | sbadia: I'll do that | 15:27 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to create a Trello card about Investigate Kilo param updates | 15:27 |
| EmilienM | so lately (previous meetings), we talk about an eventual proposal to add non-voting jobs into Puppet OpenStack gate | 15:27 |
| * EmilienM waves on dprince | 15:27 | |
| EmilienM | dprince: can you give us a short history and maybe a proposal? | 15:28 |
| dprince | hi, so yeah, we've got what might be a really great CI feedback loop for the puppet modules in TripleO right now with the fedora puppet job | 15:28 |
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| dprince | it currently uses RDO trunk packages (built via delorean) so it is using fairly recent builds of things (although not up to the minute yet) | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | the only one (limitation) today is that we focus on specific drivers (ML2/OVS for neutron, RBD for Cinder, Swift for Glance, etc) | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | but that would be a first stage | 15:29 |
| dprince | I wrote up a wiki page here which describes the job details: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleOPuppetCI | 15:30 |
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| EmilienM | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleOPuppetCI | 15:30 |
| EmilienM | dprince: also, is it possible one day we could be blocked by packaging issue? | 15:30 |
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| Hunner | Shiny | 15:30 |
| dprince | EmilienM: use, the job is a bit prescribe, but we can make it more flexible to increase coverages I think | 15:30 |
| dprince | EmilienM: yes, always a possiblity | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | coverage for more use-cases would be a step forward, I would like to have a job now and see how it works | 15:31 |
| spredzy | dprince, my concern is coverage. If someone is adding a feature, how can a user make the CI test this specific feature ? | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | if it really helps, etc | 15:31 |
| dprince | EmilienM: this week for example we got bit by a qemu package regression (it broke cinder) | 15:31 |
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| EmilienM | spredzy: we can't without coverage, but at least we can have a first iteration to Functional CI :-) | 15:31 |
| sbadia | yep :) | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | dprince: ok so maybe if we go that way, we may want to use stable packaging? | 15:32 |
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| dprince | EmilienM: but for OpenStack packages I'm finding that taking a Delorean snapshot and running with it for two weeks gives us good stability. Then we bump the Delorean URL (to a fresher version of the trunk packages) and run with it again | 15:32 |
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| EmilienM | dprince: that sounds like a great idea | 15:32 |
| dprince | EmilienM: so what we get is some stability, at the cost of our packages being slightly older than upstream | 15:32 |
| EmilienM | it's fair... | 15:33 |
| dprince | EmilienM: I'd eventually like to get to true "upstream packages" but that effort is ongoing | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | is anyone against this work? anyone with feedback (good/bad) ? | 15:33 |
| dprince | what we have today is upstream enough... or as upstream as you want it to be with some level of stability | 15:33 |
| Hunner | +1 sounds really good to start with nonvoting and vet it | 15:33 |
| crinkle | ++ | 15:33 |
| gchamoul | dprince: so right now, only f21 and centos7.x, right? | 15:34 |
| dprince | gchamoul: no centos7 yet, but it is in the works | 15:34 |
| gchamoul | ack cool! | 15:34 |
| dprince | gchamoul: just shuffling around some of the infra jobs | 15:34 |
| EmilienM | dprince: are you interested to patch OpenStack infra to gate our modules with non-voting tag ? | 15:34 |
| dprince | EmilienM: sure, I can propose this | 15:35 |
| EmilienM | #action dprince to patch OpenStack infra to gate Puppet OpenStack modules (non-voting for now) | 15:35 |
| EmilienM | dprince: thanks! that's exiting | 15:35 |
| sbadia | thanks! | 15:35 |
| EmilienM | anything else on tripleo/puppet/ci? | 15:35 |
| dprince | The only thing I want to check on is capacity, how many jobs does puppet require a day for example? | 15:35 |
| * dprince can compute this himself... just wanted to ask if anybody had an idea | 15:36 | |
| EmilienM | dprince: I'll provide you the information, I'll check our stats | 15:36 |
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| dprince | EmilienM: cool, thank | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to investigate how many patches are sent per day in our modules and sends the info to dprince | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | nibalizer is not around | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | I wanted to talk about Beaker integration | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | crinkle: do you have updates on this? Should I create a topic if so? | 15:37 |
| crinkle | I don't have any information | 15:37 |
| EmilienM | o | 15:37 |
| EmilienM | ok | 15:37 |
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| EmilienM | next time | 15:37 |
| EmilienM | #topic Rspec 3.x work | 15:37 |
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| EmilienM | sbadia, gchamoul : status, any blockers? | 15:37 |
| sbadia | no blockers, expect the one with beaker | 15:38 |
| sbadia | but I've not checked recently | 15:38 |
| EmilienM | sbadia: ok. I'll definitely make sure we update this topic at next meeting | 15:38 |
| gchamoul | no blockers | 15:38 |
| EmilienM | gchamoul: ack | 15:39 |
| EmilienM | #topic Bug triage sessions | 15:39 |
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| EmilienM | should we organize a weekly/monthly triage session? (patches, bugs, etc) | 15:39 |
| gchamoul | that's what I proposed some weeks ago! | 15:40 |
| vinsh_ | New meeting attendee here.. long time lurker. Can someone share where(etherpad/blueprints) the main focus areas are for puppet-openstack? Want to follow that with this meeting. | 15:40 |
| gchamoul | +1 | 15:40 |
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| EmilienM | gchamoul: that's why I'm raising it here :) | 15:40 |
| gchamoul | Vinsh: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-20150414 | 15:40 |
| Hunner | Video based? I think irc may be difficult | 15:40 |
| Vinsh | Or a weekly rspec helper session? :) | 15:40 |
| Vinsh | thx. | 15:41 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: any thoughts? I also remember you were asking | 15:41 |
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| sbadia | Vinsh, and https://trello.com/b/4X3zxWRZ/on-going-effort | 15:41 |
| Vinsh | perfect. thanks. | 15:41 |
| crinkle | i think mfisch is afk | 15:41 |
| EmilienM | of course it would be something were everyone is welcome and there is no required attendance. | 15:41 |
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| gchamoul | mfisch and dvorak are in team building I think this week! | 15:42 |
| Vinsh | they are presenting at "openstack live" | 15:42 |
| EmilienM | I'll do deep in Launchpad and see if we really have a ton of bugs and if so, it could deserve a dedicated session. Otherwise we can keep our weekly meetings and add items to the regular agenda | 15:42 |
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| gchamoul | Vinsh: oh yes right! | 15:43 |
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| EmilienM | mgagne: you are the LP guy, what do you think about the status of our LP? | 15:43 |
| EmilienM | mgagne: translation: you know more than me about that now :-) | 15:43 |
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| mgagne | EmilienM: what kind of status? bugs? or the use we are making of it? | 15:44 |
| gchamoul | EmilienM: sbadia and I were talking about something similar to the weekly puppetlabs hangouts | 15:44 |
| EmilienM | mgagne: both | 15:44 |
| EmilienM | actually, any feedback is welcome about that. | 15:44 |
| gchamoul | sbadia: remember ? | 15:44 |
| mgagne | EmilienM: bugs should be up to date atm, I can do an other pass at targeting committed bug to next milestone | 15:45 |
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| sbadia | gchamoul, yep :) | 15:45 |
| EmilienM | mgagne: I'm asking more about "do we have a lot of bugs pending" ? | 15:45 |
| EmilienM | if not, I'm not sure we need a triage session | 15:45 |
| mgagne | EmilienM: I don't know, I'll have to check | 15:45 |
| mgagne | 73 https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-puppet-modules/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New - 204 https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-puppet-modules/+bugs | 15:45 |
| mgagne | damn | 15:45 |
| mgagne | 73 New - 204 Open | 15:45 |
| EmilienM | mgagne: please let me know, so we can decide if we create a triage session or not | 15:46 |
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| mgagne | 19 inprogress | 15:46 |
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| EmilienM | well, that's big | 15:46 |
| mgagne | yes, we would use a triage session | 15:46 |
| EmilienM | mgagne: does it make sense if I run a triage session before the summit ? | 15:46 |
| EmilienM | ok | 15:46 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to runs a bug triage session and discuss with sbadia, gchamoul & others about the way to make it | 15:46 |
| mgagne | but looks like fix committed count as open | 15:47 |
| mgagne | I'll have to filter then out | 15:47 |
| mgagne | them* | 15:47 |
| EmilienM | mgagne: that make us think we should do a release :) | 15:47 |
| Hunner | A google hangout and etherpad is kind of how puppetlabs does triages | 15:47 |
| mgagne | EmilienM: I wouldn't do a release solely based on bug fixed count =) | 15:47 |
| sbadia | Hunner, yep, +1 | 15:48 |
| EmilienM | Hunner: cool, we will discuss about tools after the meeting if you want | 15:48 |
| EmilienM | mgagne: +1 | 15:48 |
| EmilienM | anything else on LP ? | 15:49 |
| mgagne | nothing that I can think of | 15:49 |
| EmilienM | #topic Open Discussion, Bug and Review triage (submit modules to triage here) | 15:49 |
| mgagne | mostly related to releases themselves | 15:49 |
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| mgagne | like icehouse and juno | 15:49 |
| EmilienM | mgagne: indeed | 15:49 |
| EmilienM | mgagne: time is running out, I'll continue this topic later on IRC | 15:50 |
| mgagne | sure | 15:50 |
| EmilienM | thanks | 15:50 |
| EmilienM | deprecate puppet-openstack, this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101704/ should be reviewed | 15:50 |
| Hunner | woot! | 15:50 |
| gchamoul | yes! | 15:50 |
| EmilienM | if you have some relevant bugs/patches that need an eye, please raise it here. We have 9 min left | 15:50 |
| gchamoul | EmilienM, mgagne: https://review.openstack.org/106144 | 15:51 |
| gchamoul | hrmm ... :D | 15:51 |
| mgagne | gchamoul: I see neutron_agent_ovs got introduced | 15:51 |
| mgagne | what about linuxbridge? | 15:51 |
| EmilienM | mgagne: I think gchamoul was waiting for approval on OVS and patch LB after this | 15:52 |
| mgagne | I don't want linuxbridge to be a 2nd class citizen | 15:52 |
| mgagne | alright | 15:52 |
| EmilienM | gchamoul: tell me if I'm wrong | 15:52 |
| mgagne | just making sure | 15:52 |
| mgagne | because linuxbridge isn't broken, less incentive to update it | 15:52 |
| gchamoul | mgagne: I will take over the Emilien patch on linuxbridge | 15:52 |
| EmilienM | thanks guys | 15:52 |
| EmilienM | LB is very important too | 15:52 |
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| gchamoul | of course! | 15:53 |
| EmilienM | and there is no priority between OVS & LB | 15:53 |
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| mgagne | don't start me on that one =) | 15:53 |
| crinkle | I don't expect it to get fully reviewed here but I would like people to look at and test out https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172579/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172580/ when they have the time | 15:53 |
| EmilienM | mgagne: lol. No time for trolling now :P | 15:53 |
| mgagne | gchamoul: approved | 15:53 |
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| EmilienM | crinkle: I love your commit messages, they are longer than the patch :) | 15:53 |
| gchamoul | lol | 15:54 |
| gchamoul | mgagne: thx | 15:54 |
| EmilienM | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172579/ | 15:54 |
| EmilienM | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172580/ | 15:54 |
| EmilienM | #action gchamoul to patch puppet-neutron to follow https://review.openstack.org/106144 for LB driver | 15:54 |
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| gchamoul | ack | 15:55 |
| EmilienM | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101704/ | 15:55 |
| EmilienM | well seems like we're almost done | 15:55 |
| sbadia | just in time | 15:56 |
| EmilienM | anything else? | 15:56 |
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| gchamoul | EmilienM: yes | 15:56 |
| EmilienM | gchamoul: ? | 15:56 |
| gchamoul | EmilienM: I think we have some kilodeprecationm patches in review https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:%22Mike+Dorman%22+status:open,n,z | 15:56 |
| EmilienM | gchamoul: nice one | 15:57 |
| gchamoul | crinkle has already +2s | 15:57 |
| EmilienM | I'll review them and +A if it's good. | 15:57 |
| gchamoul | just need another tiger's eyes | 15:57 |
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| EmilienM | seems like we are really done now | 15:58 |
| EmilienM | I close the meeting, thanks everyone, see you on IRC | 15:58 |
| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 14 15:58:25 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-04-14-15.00.html | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-04-14-15.00.txt | 15:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-04-14-15.00.log.html | 15:58 |
| crinkle | thanks EmilienM | 15:58 |
| gchamoul | thanks all! | 15:58 |
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| sbadia | thanks everyone :) | 16:00 |
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| slaweq | hello guys, sorry if I'm not correct here but I'm first time on such meeting :) | 17:35 |
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| slaweq | I want to ask You to take a look at blueprint specs which I made in last days: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171340 | 17:35 |
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