Wednesday, 2018-04-18

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alexchadin#startmeeting watcher14:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr 18 14:00:58 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is alexchadin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
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witek#startmeeting monasca15:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr 18 15:00:43 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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witekHello everyone!15:01
amofakharHello15:01
jgrasslerHello15:01
DobroslawHi15:01
cbelluccihello15:01
harukihello15:01
kojihi15:01
witekagenda for today: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda15:01
witekwith larger font ;)15:01
amofakharyeah looks better15:02
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witekyes, we're not that young anymore ;P15:02
amofakhar:)15:02
witek#topic building Docker images15:02
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witekthere were some discussions about the spec last week15:03
witekhttps://review.openstack.org/53893715:03
witekone point which I would like to discuss is the Python version15:04
DobroslawYep, in comments to spec I got some questions about building images with Python 2 or Python 315:04
DobroslawThe problems for now: not all Monasca parts works with Python 315:04
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witekmonasca-api and monasca-agent being worked on though15:05
amofakharBut there is a plan to update all to work with python 315:05
DobroslawAlso OpenStack Python version is 3.5 but official for this one are built on old Alpine 3.415:05
DobroslawNewer Python 3.6 is build with Alpine 3.715:05
DobroslawYes, what would be best approach here?15:06
DobroslawUsing only Python 3 and wait for rest of the services to be updated to works with it?15:06
DobroslawOr build all services supporting py3 with py3 and rest build with py2?15:07
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DobroslawBuild all services with py2 and py3 (so two containers per service, highest maintenance cost)?15:08
amofakharI say, Py3 and wait15:08
witekdoes anyone explicitly need python 2 images?15:08
DobroslawThat's also my preference15:08
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witekDobroslaw: currently Alpine 3.6 is used in monasca-docker15:09
witekwhich Python version is it?15:10
Dobroslaw2.7.1415:10
Dobroslawofficial py2 images have also Alpine 3.7 versions15:10
DobroslawLooks like they stopped building Python 3.5 with newer Alpine15:11
witekmy preference would also be to decide for one version only15:12
witekand I hope the porting work will be finished soon15:13
witekI mean Python porting15:13
DobroslawYes, that would give us least amount of maintenance15:14
witekso, if nobody has objections, I would propose to build only Python3 images as part of this effort15:14
amofakhar+115:14
Dobroslaw+115:15
witekanything else to discuss about this spec?15:15
DobroslawPython 3.5 or 3.6?15:15
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amofakharI read that some packages break in 3.615:16
DobroslawHmmm, would be bad15:17
amofakharand it needs to install them from github15:17
witekmost OpenStack CI jobs run with 3.515:17
amofakharyes its recommended to use 3.515:18
DobroslawAnyone else have comments about this?15:19
DobroslawIf not I think safest way will be starting with Python 3.515:19
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amofakharAgree15:20
witekfine15:20
DobroslawAnd when they are working then we could try changing to 3.6 and test stability15:20
DobroslawOK15:20
witekanything else?15:21
Dobroslawnot for now15:21
Dobroslawthank you15:21
witekthanks for the comments in review15:21
witek#topic reviews15:21
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witekhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/546956/815:21
amofakharI pushed a new commit15:22
witekthat's for oslo.policy implemetation15:22
amofakharso please review again15:22
amofakharyes15:22
witekthanks for the code15:22
amofakharnp15:22
amofakharnothing more15:23
witekhave you changed anything else apart from configuration?15:23
amofakharno just security.py is came back and its used for policy15:23
witekthanks, so backwards compatibility should be remained15:24
amofakharyes15:24
witekany other reviews which need attention?15:25
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amofakharhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/560334/15:25
amofakharpep8 for monasca-ui15:26
DobroslawLooks good to me and it was working previously in devstack15:27
amofakharDobroslaw: you had a comment and its done now15:28
witekjust +2'd15:28
amofakharthanks15:28
DobroslawUgh, I don't have password to Ubuntu One at home... If no one merge it today I'll do it tomorrow15:28
Dobroslawyes, thank you15:28
witekwe've got the problem with the new requirements-check job in monasca-notification15:28
witekbecause jira library is not in global-requirements15:29
witekI've proposed adding it15:29
witekhttps://review.openstack.org/56215115:29
witektill now looks good :)15:29
witekother reviews?15:30
aagatehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/557844/15:30
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aagatemonasca-transform docs update is ready for review15:31
witekgreat, thanks for that15:31
amofakharwhat is the problem with monasca-log-api tempest ?15:32
aagatealso https://review.openstack.org/#/c/561371/ (update to devstack plugin for monasca-transform)15:32
witektempest tests should actually be moved to the new repo15:33
witekbut if you prefer to fix them first, it's fine15:33
witekamofakhar: I'm not sure, it seems to be random15:34
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witekfeel free to look up our progress board15:35
witekhttps://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/board/6015:35
witekand add or update the tasks15:36
witekwe had some progress on Python 3 changes last week15:36
witek#topic dates15:37
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haruki> Topic Jira: sorry for late, concerning about Jira requirement, I''ll check your patch because I have experience to test Jira notification15:37
witekthe change is for the requirements repository15:38
witekadding jira to global requirements15:38
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witekwhat could be tested are min, max supported versions15:38
witekRocky-1 milestone: April 1915:40
witekthat's tomorrow15:40
witekI'll tag all the repos15:40
witekfrom other news I got update from Stefano that he got approval for Vancouver15:41
Dobroslawgreat15:41
witekyes, that's fantastic15:41
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amofakhargood news15:42
witekOK, if there are no other topics, I'll be wrapping up15:42
jgrasslerJust a small update on https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200165415:43
witekgo ahead15:43
jgrasslerI added a few tasks now and I'll probably submit a first draft review for 14339 (migrations for all MySQL script revisions) this week15:44
witekgreat15:44
amofakhargreat15:44
jgrasslerI'm almost done aligning the first SQL script revision with its corresponding migration...15:44
witekI'll update the board15:44
jgrassler4/19 tables left :-)15:44
jgrasslerDoesn't that happen automatically once I submit the review?15:44
jgrasslerAlso, here's a sneak preview: https://github.com/jgrassler/monasca-api/tree/alembic15:45
joadavisThe story will be updated automatically, but the kanban style board needs some manual motion15:45
jgrassler(plenty of rough edges left, but you can see where it's going)15:45
witekthe tasks have to be added to the worklist first15:45
jgrasslerAh, ok15:45
witekand than the card can be moved along15:45
witekthe task status gets updated automagically15:46
harukiFor Pockey, if there is guys who would like to translate monasca-ui in your language (excluding English), I recommend to add patch in Zanata, for Rockey.15:46
harukiFor Rocky, sorry...15:48
witekjgrassler: what's the path to alembic code in monasca-api?15:48
witekharuki: I've seen some German translations15:49
jgrasslerwitek: it's in monasca_api/db/15:50
witekthanks15:50
kojilet me ask a small question about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/560334/15:51
kojiwhy did it change the max line length?15:51
witekwe agreed to be pep8 conform15:51
amofakharbecause we agreed on it15:52
witekand use 100 chars max line length15:52
kojithanks, so discussed previous meeting15:52
witekyes, I guess before Easter15:53
kojii got it15:53
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witekOK, thank you everyone for joining today15:54
amofakharThank you too15:54
witekand see you next week15:54
amofakhargood bye15:54
DobroslawThank you15:54
witekbye15:54
harukithanks, too. see you15:54
kojithanks15:54
Dobroslawbye15:54
aagateThank you bye15:54
witek#endmeeting15:54
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eglute#startmeeting interopwg16:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr 18 16:00:51 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is eglute. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
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markvoelkero/16:01
eglute#chair markvoelker hogepodge16:01
openstackCurrent chairs: eglute hogepodge markvoelker16:01
eglute#topic agenda16:01
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eglutehello everyone!! Hope everyone is enjoying spring without snow.16:01
ricolino/16:01
eglute#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropWhistler.1116:01
egluteplease review and update agenda as needed16:01
hogepodgehi16:02
egluteI just added Vancouver to the agenda,16:03
eglute#topic Vancouver Summit16:03
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eglutei dont think we have any sessions right now, I have not looked yet into getting a WG session16:03
hogepodgeI've signed us up for a WG session16:04
eglutehogepodge do you know what they are doing for working sessions this time? is it just forum?16:04
mguiney3o/16:04
egluteoh thats great thank you hogepodge16:04
mguineywhoops extra 316:04
hogepodgeJimmy reached out a few weeks ago.16:04
egluteis schedule set for working sessions yet?16:04
hogepodgeI don't know16:04
eglutethanks hogepodge, i must have missed it16:04
hogepodgeeglute: Wed 23, 2:40pm - 3:20pm Vancouver Convention Centre West - Level Two - Room 21716:05
eglutecool, thanks. 40 min is rather short, do we want to ask for more time?16:05
hogepodge#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2018/summit-schedule/events/21678/interop-working-group-session16:05
egluteor another session?16:06
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hogepodgewe missed the forum deadline16:06
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* eglute needs to get better at reading emails16:06
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hogepodgeI have an SDK session proposed, but nothing else related to interop16:07
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egluteok... anyone else have interop sessions?16:07
eglutethis time, i didnt propose anything16:07
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kgarloff_eglute: In Vancouver?16:07
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georgksorry, I joined late16:08
eglutekgarloff_ yes, do you have any sessions?16:08
kgarloff_eglute: Sorry, not this time :-(16:08
georgkis the call for sessions still open?16:08
eglute:)16:08
eglutegeorgk no,16:08
kgarloff_georgk: long closed16:08
georgkthought so16:08
georgk:-(16:08
eglutewe are discussing the workign group session, https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2018/summit-schedule/events/21678/interop-working-group-session16:08
georgkeglute: ok, thanks16:09
egluteI created agenda etherpad for vancouver: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropVancouverMay201816:09
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egluteif you already have some topics to discuss in vancouver, please update the etherpad16:10
egluteanything else regarding vancouver summit?16:11
eglute#topic Creating orchestration.2018.02.json guideline16:11
*** openstack changes topic to "Creating orchestration.2018.02.json guideline (Meeting topic: interopwg)"16:11
eglutethanks for reviews, after final recheck it was merged today16:11
eglute#topic gate check16:12
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eglute#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/562002/16:12
eglutethanks hogepodge for creating the gate checks16:13
egluteeveryone, please review so we can merge16:13
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* mguiney nods16:13
mguineywill review :)16:13
egluteit makes Zuul unhappy right now16:14
eglutefor some reason16:14
eglute#topic Move next.json to schema 2.016:15
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markvoelker...which also makes Zuul unhappy right now for some reason. =p16:15
hogepodgeThe orchestration file wasn't there, it should work on recheck now.16:15
eglutetalking of unhappy Zuul, markvoelker have you had a chance to look into #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554395/16:15
eglutethanks hogepodge16:15
markvoelkerUnfortunately not...forgot to check out a local copy of the branch before I got on a plane for transatlantic flights last week.16:16
eglutecool, hopefully no Southwest flights16:16
hogepodgetox.ini needs to be updated to verify against 2.0 schema instead of 1.x16:17
markvoelkerThe failure was in pep8, so I'll have to go pick through it a bit...almost looked like something entirely unrelated to the doc itself at first blush.16:17
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egluteok16:17
eglutethanks hogepodge16:17
eglutethank you markvoelker16:17
markvoelkerhogepodge: yep, that's pretty much where I was headed16:17
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hogepodgeit's all schema, all the time with me :-)16:17
markvoelker=p16:18
egluteok, anything else on this?16:18
eglute#topic Missing/renamed tests,16:19
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eglutei think markvoelker and/or mguiney were going to look into creating a patch16:19
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egluteany chance either of you had the time to look into it?16:19
markvoelkerYeah, I think we got this settled after the last meeting: nothing is actually neded.16:20
markvoelkerCheck out line 33-36 on the etherpad16:20
eglutehttp://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2018/interopwg.2018-04-04-16.01.log.html#l-8316:21
egluteah ok thank you markvoelker16:21
eglutei missed the update16:22
egluteok, so we are good there then16:22
markvoelkereglute: yeah, after the sammich I realized nothing was actually needed and made some additional notes and pinged folks.  We're good.16:22
eglutegreat, thank you markvoelker!!16:22
* eglute really needs to work on her reading skills16:22
markvoelkerOh, FWIW: we have (at least) one product that's showing 2018.02 compliance on the marketplace now.  Presumably at least one more in the pipe. =)16:22
eglutenice!16:23
mguineynice!16:23
luzC_cool!16:23
hogepodgethey're rolling in16:23
hogepodgeoh hi luzC_! haven't seen you in a while...16:23
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egluteis there a way to filter by guideline on marketplace?16:24
egluteok, so we are good on the not missing tests16:25
markvoelkerDon't think so16:25
eglute#topic Build Gate Job against Tempest16:25
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eglutehogepodge this was different from gate checks correct16:26
hogepodgeYes, making sure interop and tempest remain in sync16:27
hogepodgehalf-finished wip16:27
eglutecool, thank you hogepodge16:27
eglute#topic Scoring 2018.0816:28
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eglutehas anyone started scoring their components?16:28
markvoelkerI have started digging into the neutron stuff, but no patches yet16:29
luzC_no yet, I signed for Nova, but wanted to check with markvoelker first16:29
mguineyit fell to the bottom of my stsck, but i have started looking into the existing caps16:29
hogepodgeI'm swamped until the summit16:29
markvoelkerluzC: I've been working on neutron first, so if you have bandwidth for nova right now, go for it!16:30
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egluteok.. i have not looked yet either16:30
luzC_markvoelker ok, I'll16:30
eglutethank you luzC_16:31
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eglutericolin you added head interop test repo16:31
egluteis that new?16:31
ricolineglute, hi16:32
ricolineglute, it's not yet created16:32
eglutedo you have estimated time frame?16:32
ricolineglute, heat will help to maintain it, but I would like to ask you guys if you like to be the owner or us?16:33
eglutei think we want the project teams to be owners of their tests.16:33
egluteand their repos16:33
luzC_ricolin eglute: that is for a heat tempest plugin, right?16:34
ricolineglute, cool, that will also keep those tests under TC is governance16:34
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ricolinluzC_, a separate repo to put all heat tempest tests for interop16:35
ricolins/TC is/TC's/16:35
ricolinAlso we will add gate job in heat to make sure we not breaking those tests anytime16:36
eglutericolin i think i am confused... this would a completely separate tempest test repo just with the interop tests?16:36
ricolineglute, yes16:36
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kgarloffmost projects don't have separate repos, do they?16:38
eglutewhy not just keep the tests where they are now? i think they are here now? https://github.com/openstack/heat-tempest-plugin16:38
ricolineglute, that will cause extra maintain works for other tempest tests16:39
eglutericolin would separate repo not cause extra work?16:40
ricolineglute, also we have to identify interop tests, because we should not touch those tests16:40
ricolineglute, that will be easier work to do IMO16:40
markvoelkereglute: I think this goes back to the long discussion with the TC in Dublin and new resolution after16:40
egluteok, makes sense16:41
egluteyes, in that case, i think the Heat team should own and maintain the test repo16:41
markvoelker#link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20180307-trademark-program-test-location.html Newest TC resolution on interop test location16:41
ricolinwe will make sure interop team, tempest team and heat team got authZ on that repo16:42
eglutethanks markvoelker16:42
eglutethank you ricolin16:42
ricolineglute, NP16:42
egluteany other questions or comments on the heat repo?16:43
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egluteanything else on the 2018.02 scoring?16:45
eglute#topic open discussion16:46
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egluteanything else for today?16:46
eglutein that case, thanks everyone!!16:47
eglute#endmeeting16:47
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mguineyhave a good week, all16:47
kgarloffEnjoy!16:47
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