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| dtroyer | Helloooooooo…… | 13:01 |
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| dtroyer | anyone for OSC meeting? | 13:01 |
| huanxuan | o/ | 13:03 |
| huanxuan | hi dtroyer | 13:03 |
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| dtroyer | Hi huanxuan! Let's do a meeting! | 13:03 |
| huanxuan | yes | 13:04 |
| dtroyer | #startmeeting openstackclient | 13:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 15 13:04:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtroyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstackclient)" | 13:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstackclient' | 13:04 |
| dtroyer | So first off... | 13:04 |
| dtroyer | #topic releases | 13:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "releases (Meeting topic: openstackclient)" | 13:04 | |
| dtroyer | We released OSC 3.5.0 yesterday | 13:04 |
| huanxuan | nice | 13:04 |
| huanxuan | \o/ | 13:05 |
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| dtroyer | and OSC 2.4.1 last week in the first of our stable releases | 13:05 |
| dtroyer | they both contains a couple of bug fixes that were biting folk badly | 13:05 |
| huanxuan | yes, I saw it | 13:06 |
| huanxuan | good news! | 13:06 |
| dtroyer | Unless something comes up I do not plan to do another release until early next year | 13:06 |
| huanxuan | ok | 13:06 |
| dtroyer | #topic reviews | 13:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews (Meeting topic: openstackclient)" | 13:07 | |
| dtroyer | Looking through open reviews, I see only one more SDK refactor in the queue (I +2 ports this morning) | 13:07 |
| dtroyer | I do not know if that is the last one, will need to look in to that. | 13:08 |
| dtroyer | These need to be complete for the SDK 1.0 to be released. I do not know if briancurtin is waiting on us for that yet, I don't think so | 13:09 |
| huanxuan | I do not think it is the last one | 13:09 |
| dtroyer | ok, thanks. | 13:09 |
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| huanxuan | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407324/ seems like this is in progress | 13:10 |
| dtroyer | right, that was the only one proposed that I found that is not approved | 13:10 |
| dtroyer | are there any other reviews that we should discuss? | 13:11 |
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| huanxuan | I have one | 13:11 |
| huanxuan | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367673/ | 13:11 |
| huanxuan | purge command | 13:11 |
| huanxuan | Steve and I are working on it | 13:12 |
| dtroyer | cool, I have not looked at that in a while | 13:12 |
| dtroyer | I will give it some attention, probably tomorrow | 13:12 |
| huanxuan | ok, thanks :) | 13:13 |
| dtroyer | like quotas, this is a good case for where we need the ability to extend commands from plugins | 13:13 |
| huanxuan | yes | 13:14 |
| huanxuan | by the way, we have completed some cinder commands in OSC, i remember we have more than 80% volume v2 commands completed now | 13:16 |
| dtroyer | good news! | 13:16 |
| huanxuan | yes! | 13:17 |
| huanxuan | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407983/ this one stevemar and I want let youtake one last look | 13:17 |
| stevemar | o/ | 13:20 |
| dtroyer | hmmm… interesting idea there to add multiple volumes in one command, I like that | 13:20 |
| dtroyer | there may be other places we can do that, like group add user, etc | 13:20 |
| huanxuan | yes it is | 13:21 |
| dtroyer | that is a nice non-breaking addition | 13:21 |
| stevemar | (sorry i'm late) | 13:21 |
| dtroyer | stevemar: welcome to the early-morning-for-north-america edition of OSC meeting! :) | 13:21 |
| huanxuan | hi stevemar~ | 13:21 |
| dtroyer | stevemar: any specific reviews you want to discuss? | 13:21 |
| stevemar | just catching up in the meeting log, didn't want to interrupt | 13:22 |
| dtroyer | we have covered our lists | 13:22 |
| stevemar | I wanted to mention a few... | 13:22 |
| stevemar | 1) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410848/1 | 13:22 |
| stevemar | another attempt at image member update | 13:23 |
| stevemar | that's the third attempt :) | 13:23 |
| stevemar | maybe https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410848/ is a better link | 13:23 |
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| dtroyer | <sigh> I know I had this worked out form a command standpoint three years ago | 13:25 |
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| dtroyer | and had buyoff from the Glance PTL (at the time, markwash) | 13:25 |
| stevemar | also on the table -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398123/ - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403393/ - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410008/ | 13:26 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: i don't know much about updating member projects, seems like a funky transaction | 13:26 |
| stevemar | i definitely don't like the command that jordanP proposed | 13:27 |
| dtroyer | that part of the Image API was not thought through very well and we'll pay that price for a while yet | 13:27 |
| dtroyer | that's why we went to a bit of work to 'normalize' it | 13:28 |
| dtroyer | I'll dig up my notes and put them somewhere | 13:28 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: okay, we can skip that one if it's weird | 13:29 |
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| dtroyer | 398123: that's an odd one, I still think we should have a common config, but we can go ahead with it as-is once it's passing tests | 13:30 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: jordan makes a good point though, we need *something* | 13:30 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: the other option for 398123 was something huanxuan brought up -- we can add a "is default" column to the output | 13:31 |
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| dtroyer | we can build "something" that doesn't make for a back-compat problem in the near future | 13:31 |
| dtroyer | 398123: as a user, I'd rather have the —default option than have to iterate through a list | 13:32 |
| dtroyer | I'm not opposed to the column, but the option is better UI | 13:32 |
| dtroyer | UX | 13:32 |
| stevemar | rgr | 13:32 |
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| stevemar | i'll fix the test after the meeting | 13:33 |
| dtroyer | 403393: I need to look at this, is the command itself still in flux? | 13:33 |
| huanxuan | yes | 13:34 |
| stevemar | 403393: i think we should use backup import/export in this case. just the original author is AFK :P | 13:34 |
| huanxuan | I think jiahui will continue the work | 13:34 |
| stevemar | huanxuan: yeah, we gave the original author a chance | 13:34 |
| dtroyer | ok | 13:35 |
| stevemar | huanxuan: please make sure jiahui adds his name to the commit message, "Co-Authored-By: ... " so he gets credit | 13:35 |
| huanxuan | ok, I will let him know it | 13:35 |
| stevemar | (i think you've been working with him?) | 13:35 |
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| huanxuan | yes I am | 13:35 |
| stevemar | i can tell ;) | 13:35 |
| stevemar | you teach as good as you code! | 13:35 |
| dtroyer | ++ | 13:36 |
| huanxuan | thank you :) | 13:36 |
| stevemar | and now 410008 | 13:36 |
| dtroyer | 410008: is there not a way to tell when —remote-source was used to create a volume? | 13:36 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: this is basically the 'unmanage' part of 'manage' | 13:36 |
| dtroyer | right | 13:36 |
| stevemar | hmm | 13:37 |
| stevemar | good question | 13:37 |
| stevemar | maybe it's a volume property? | 13:37 |
| dtroyer | if there is the option shouldn't be necessary, we're already doing the lookup anyway | 13:37 |
| dtroyer | thats what I was wondering | 13:37 |
| dtroyer | if not, I'm OK with this as is | 13:37 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: theres also the fact that a user may actually want to delete the volume properly | 13:37 |
| stevemar | that'll wipe the data that's on the volume | 13:38 |
| dtroyer | even for remote source? | 13:38 |
| stevemar | if we inspect that it was created from remote, and always unmanage, then we are never able to do that | 13:38 |
| dtroyer | ok, if that's a distinction, then we need the option | 13:38 |
| stevemar | i dunno if it's a real scenario or not | 13:38 |
| stevemar | but users do funny things | 13:39 |
| dtroyer | oh yes they do | 13:39 |
| stevemar | but i think smcginnis OK'ed the approach, at least he did when i spoke to him in person | 13:40 |
| dtroyer | there is one thing that needs fixing in that review, relnote | 13:40 |
| huanxuan | yes | 13:40 |
| dtroyer | I lef tthe question in the review | 13:41 |
| stevemar | ah yeah | 13:41 |
| stevemar | good catch | 13:41 |
| dtroyer | stevemar: I did have a question on purge… | 13:42 |
| stevemar | shoot | 13:42 |
| dtroyer | since we can not extend commands like that form plugins, what happend if a project is purged but say heat templates still exist | 13:42 |
| dtroyer | can heat still clean them up if the project is gone? | 13:42 |
| dtroyer | or is that dependant on each API implementation? | 13:43 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: that probably depends on how each service handles their delete | 13:44 |
| stevemar | i don't see why they would depend on the project existing, but some projects do funny things | 13:44 |
| dtroyer | does keystone soft-delete the project? | 13:44 |
| stevemar | no, it's removed from the db | 13:44 |
| dtroyer | or is it gone from the database? | 13:44 |
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| stevemar | we do not have a soft delete, though folks are starting to ask for it | 13:45 |
| dtroyer | if it was there, you could have a 'was this once valid?" API | 13:45 |
| dtroyer | so I'm not sure how to protect users with purge … | 13:46 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: why can't we extend that command? | 13:46 |
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| dtroyer | from plugins, we haven't built that ability yet | 13:46 |
| stevemar | oh *yet* | 13:46 |
| stevemar | so its the same problem as quotas | 13:46 |
| dtroyer | yup, exactly the same | 13:46 |
| stevemar | but this is more destructive | 13:47 |
| dtroyer | much! | 13:47 |
| stevemar | :) | 13:47 |
| stevemar | warning before it's run? | 13:47 |
| stevemar | "you should really use a dry run first!" | 13:47 |
| stevemar | there is a --dry-run option | 13:47 |
| dtroyer | the other problem is that even if we had the ability, if the plugin wasn't installed in that specific client, we wouldn't check it | 13:47 |
| dtroyer | maybe we need to loop through the service catalog looking for services that do not have plugins? | 13:48 |
| stevemar | true | 13:48 |
| dtroyer | maybe we should do that anyway? | 13:48 |
| dtroyer | on command at least, help users discover what else they mght want to install | 13:48 |
| dtroyer | #idea add command to compare service catalog with installed plugins to see what may be missing | 13:49 |
| stevemar | definitely room for improvement | 13:49 |
| dtroyer | —dry-run is a great idea, assuming it has the rsync meaning. but it still doesn't know what it doesnt know | 13:49 |
| dtroyer | users have the power of "rm -rf"... | 13:50 |
| stevemar | i think the current command will satisfy the majority of users (more once we add network stuff) | 13:50 |
| dtroyer | is there a way to re-create a project (if it gets purged) but a project needs it to exist to clean up? | 13:50 |
| dtroyer | ie, re-create a specific uuid? | 13:51 |
| stevemar | nope! | 13:51 |
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| dtroyer | keystone-manage extension coming! | 13:51 |
| dtroyer | this is the kind of command that we need to have documented all of these details so users know the risks | 13:52 |
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| stevemar | is was discussed in keystone-meeting 2 weeks ago | 13:52 |
| stevemar | i was shot down | 13:52 |
| stevemar | last thing to discuss | 13:52 |
| dtroyer | what was shot down? | 13:52 |
| stevemar | specifying the project id | 13:53 |
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| dtroyer | ah, ok. wait until CERN needs it :) | 13:53 |
| stevemar | i continued to try and twister cinder arms at their meeting last week: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-12-07-16.00.log.txt | 13:53 |
| stevemar | see 16:38:54 | 13:53 |
| stevemar | they are still hung up on "why isn't this in our client!" | 13:53 |
| stevemar | and have now changed requirements :) | 13:54 |
| stevemar | now they want support for microversions, v3 of their API, and manila standalone support | 13:54 |
| dtroyer | that will never change | 13:55 |
| stevemar | just annoying | 13:56 |
| stevemar | they seemed surprised that neutron deprecated their CLI | 13:56 |
| stevemar | i guess they'll get the message when nova deprecates theirs too :P | 13:56 |
| dtroyer | kudos for trying to keep them in the game, but that's exactly one reason why I haven't spent too much time trying to convince project to drop their cli | 13:56 |
| stevemar | eventually they will all come around :) | 13:57 |
| stevemar | just trying to keep them informed | 13:57 |
| dtroyer | they don't care much about it until they lose control, and that's how they see it, loss of control | 13:57 |
| stevemar | womp womp | 13:57 |
| dtroyer | <shrug> we'll build the better mousetrap | 13:57 |
| dtroyer | Cinder is one of the projects that has a bigger NIH factor than most | 13:58 |
| dtroyer | Not Invented Here | 13:58 |
| dtroyer | funny, given it's a fork of Nova | 13:58 |
| stevemar | *shrug* | 13:58 |
| stevemar | what isnt a fork of nova :P | 13:58 |
| dtroyer | keystone light | 13:58 |
| dtroyer | ok, almost out of time, anything else? | 13:59 |
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| huanxuan | nope | 13:59 |
| stevemar | nope | 13:59 |
| stevemar | thanks for chairing | 13:59 |
| dtroyer | ok, let's end a minute early! | 13:59 |
| stevemar | o\ | 13:59 |
| dtroyer | thanks guys! | 13:59 |
| huanxuan | thank you dtroyer and stevemar | 13:59 |
| dtroyer | #endmeeting | 13:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 15 13:59:58 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-12-15-13.04.html | 14:00 |
| huanxuan | :) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-12-15-13.04.txt | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-12-15-13.04.log.html | 14:00 |
| stevemar | good night huanxuan! | 14:00 |
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| tosky | vgridnev: ^ :) | 14:03 |
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| felix__ | hi all, this is shuyingya o/ | 14:04 |
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| vgridnev | #startmeeting sahara | 14:10 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 15 14:10:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is vgridnev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:10 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:10 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 14:10 |
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| tosky | o/ | 14:10 |
| raissa | o/ | 14:10 |
| shuyingya | o/ | 14:10 |
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| vgridnev | hello, I missed that, sorry, issues with calendar | 14:11 |
| vgridnev | anyone else around? | 14:11 |
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| sl_ | o/ | 14:11 |
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| vgridnev | is egafford is going to join? | 14:12 |
| vgridnev | ok, let's start with updates | 14:12 |
| vgridnev | #topic News / updates | 14:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "News / updates (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:13 | |
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| tosky | not too much apart from few review (mainly switching the default to newton) | 14:13 |
| vgridnev | was working with HDP 2.5, fixing https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/1649644 and some internal stuff | 14:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1649644 in Sahara "Vanilla cluster on centos7 hangs in Waiting state in case of indirect access" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Vitaly Gridnev (vgridnev) | 14:13 |
| vgridnev | I guess I will upload something related to HDP 2.5 soon | 14:14 |
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| tosky | is it going to use the same version of ambari used by HDP 2.4, or is there a new version? | 14:14 |
| vgridnev | ambari will be upgraded to newest one | 14:14 |
| shuyingya | working on support latest cdh plugin. and have some questions about it, need further investigate | 14:15 |
| tellesnobrega | o/ | 14:15 |
| vgridnev | actually I did not found any issues with upgrade of that | 14:15 |
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| tosky | can the newer ambari deploy the older versions of HDP? Maybe we can unify a bit more content on the image | 14:16 |
| vgridnev | tosky, self-explanatory table | 14:17 |
| vgridnev | https://docs.hortonworks.com/HDPDocuments/Ambari-2.4.2.0/bk_ambari-installation/content/determine_stack_compatibility.html | 14:17 |
| tosky | so yes, ambari 2.4 could be used for all versions :) | 14:18 |
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| vgridnev | yep, I guess HDP 2.3 will be working too | 14:19 |
| vgridnev | tellesnobrega, any updates from you? | 14:20 |
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| tellesnobrega | not really, most working on downstream stuff, and waiting on the patch on the name check to land | 14:21 |
| vgridnev | tellesnobrega, is egafford going to review that? | 14:21 |
| tellesnobrega | other than that, I still have to come back to storm+apache integration | 14:21 |
| tellesnobrega | i have to talk to her | 14:21 |
| tellesnobrega | but she probably will | 14:22 |
| vgridnev | ok, any updates from her? I don't remember last time she was at the meeting | 14:23 |
| vgridnev | #topic Open discussion | 14:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:23 | |
| tellesnobrega | she is very busy upstream, but she will probably send some patches upstream on the CLI image generation soon | 14:23 |
| tellesnobrega | busy *downstream | 14:23 |
| vgridnev | uh, ok | 14:24 |
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| vgridnev | we probably need to discuss our schedule for future meetings, actually. Christmas and New Year are soon | 14:25 |
| tosky | as general note, I will be on vacation the next two weeks; I may be hanging on freenode, but definitely less activity :) | 14:25 |
| shuyingya | Hi vgridnev, about the cdh plugin, the resource dir contains some config files. about the json file, where I can find it? | 14:26 |
| vgridnev | shuyingya, 1 min | 14:26 |
| shuyingya | ok | 14:27 |
| vgridnev | shuyingya, https://github.com/openstack/sahara/blob/master/sahara/plugins/cdh/v5_7_0/resources/cdh_config.py | 14:27 |
| tellesnobrega | about the meetings, we sure need to figure that out, tosky will be mostly out, egafford will also, since the office shuts down | 14:27 |
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| vgridnev | you are deploying a cluster with most of all services, and then you get default configs | 14:28 |
| vgridnev | about the meetings, 1 min, I will take a look on calendar | 14:29 |
| shuyingya | vgridnev, aha, not read this code yet. | 14:30 |
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| shuyingya | thx | 14:30 |
| tellesnobrega | can I get some eyes on this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282506/ | 14:31 |
| tellesnobrega | its been there for quite some time (my bad as well), I will review today, but if anyone else can do the same, I appreciate | 14:32 |
| vgridnev | 1. we can cancel future 3 meetings, Dec. 22 Dec. 29, and Jan. 5. If we need something to discuss, let's do that in openstack-sahara channel. important updates also let's track in openstack-sahara and mailing list | 14:32 |
| vgridnev | tellesnobrega, ok | 14:32 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks | 14:33 |
| vgridnev | so, what do you think guys about that plan? | 14:33 |
| tellesnobrega | meeting plans looks good | 14:33 |
| shuyingya | I am fine with it | 14:33 |
| tosky | fine by me | 14:34 |
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| vgridnev | #action send meeting plan to ML | 14:34 |
| vgridnev | anything else we can discuss? | 14:34 |
| shuyingya | tosky, about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409092/, why do we need create a project and an user other default admin? | 14:36 |
| * tosky looks | 14:36 | |
| tosky | shuyingya: what is the real world scenario for sahara usage? admin is special, you want to try with a normal user | 14:37 |
| tosky | if I understand the question | 14:38 |
| shuyingya | tosky, thanks. that make sense | 14:38 |
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| shuyingya | but do you have idea about the last comment I posted? | 14:39 |
| tosky | shuyingya: and if you delete the tenant first? | 14:40 |
| shuyingya | also can't delete the user. it requires a tenant. | 14:40 |
| tosky | I'm pretty sure that tempest does it elsewhere, when dynamic credentials are used | 14:41 |
| tosky | because a separate user and tenant are created and then removed | 14:41 |
| tosky | but I did not investigate the sequence of operations | 14:42 |
| shuyingya | ok, I will investigate it. | 14:42 |
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| vgridnev | anything else we need to cover? | 14:45 |
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| tellesnobrega | not from me | 14:45 |
| tosky | happy holidays everyone! | 14:45 |
| shuyingya | me too | 14:45 |
| tellesnobrega | happy holidays you all | 14:45 |
| shuyingya | happy vacation, tosky | 14:45 |
| shuyingya | happy holidays, all. | 14:45 |
| vgridnev | thanks all | 14:46 |
| vgridnev | #endmeeting | 14:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:46 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 15 14:46:02 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-12-15-14.10.html | 14:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-12-15-14.10.txt | 14:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-12-15-14.10.log.html | 14:46 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 15 15:00:28 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:00 |
| john-davidge | o/ | 15:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | hey guys | 15:01 |
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| mlavalle | As usual, agenda is here: | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-l3-subteam | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | #topic Annoucements | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Annoucements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:02 | |
| mlavalle | Well, we made it to Ocata-2 | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 15:02 |
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| mlavalle | This cycle is definitely running faster than previous ones | 15:03 |
| john-davidge | And a lot of folks will be taking time off between now and O-3 | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | yeap. are you or heleyb among them? | 15:04 |
| haleyb | this is my last day until next year :-o | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: but that means you coming back in early January, right? | 15:05 |
| haleyb | of course i'll be watching the review queue here and there | 15:05 |
| john-davidge | mlavalle: I'm away from Dec 23 to Jan 9 | 15:06 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: yes, i'll be back :) | 15:06 |
| john-davidge | mlavalle: You? | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | I'll be here through the Holidays | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | I'll take a few days off | 15:07 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: you'll be un-packing, that's not a day off | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | I also had a chat last week with tidwellr. I pinged him to know if he wanted to continue co-chairing this meeting with me | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | He has a few conflicts between now and the end of January. But after that, he want to continue being coc-chair | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | So you will see us rotating the role | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | Any other annoucements? | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | ok | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:10 | |
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| mlavalle | First one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1610483 | 15:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1610483 in neutron "Pluggable IPAM rollback mechanism is not robust" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Aliaksandr Dziarkach (aliaksandr-dziarkach) | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | There is a fix proposed: | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390594/ | 15:11 |
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| mlavalle | I have been slowly moving through it and made a few comments, that I haven't published yet | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | I'll continue going through it | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | I encourage other team members to do the same | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | Any other comments? | 15:12 |
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| mlavalle | Ok, next one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1570122 | 15:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1570122 in neutron "ipv6 prefix delegated subnets are not accessable external of the router they are attached." [High,In progress] - Assigned to John Davidge (john-davidge) | 15:13 |
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| mlavalle | Any other feedback from the reporter? | 15:14 |
| john-davidge | Latest version of the WIP patch has positive feedback from promethianfire (the bug reporter). Next I'll add some tests and it should be good to go | 15:15 |
| john-davidge | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407025/ | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | yeah, I am just reading it | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | Great! | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | Thanks! | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1627424 | 15:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1627424 in neutron "FlushError on IPAllocation" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | First, thanks to haleyb for the notes you left there. Very useful | 15:17 |
| haleyb | my eyes were spinning | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | I haven't had much time this week to follow up because I am the bugs deputy this week | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | I'll continue gojng after it next week | 15:18 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: we might want to ping kevinbenton to see if he can help, he's good at the DB stuff | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: ok, will do that | 15:19 |
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| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1627480 | 15:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1627480 in neutron "create_port can succeed without returning fixed_ips on all requested subnets" [High,Confirmed] | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | I talked to tidwellr about this one. He is interested on it, so he agreed to help with it | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | any other comments? | 15:21 |
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| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1636963 | 15:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1636963 in neutron "Service Subnets - DHCP port creation fails" [High,In progress] - Assigned to John Davidge (john-davidge) | 15:22 |
| john-davidge | Updated the patch to only work for dhcp-enabled subnets based on our conversation in the last meeting, and it now has a +2 from haleyb. | 15:22 |
| john-davidge | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392183/ | 15:22 |
| john-davidge | Thanks haleyb and baoli for the reviews | 15:23 |
| baoli | john-davidge: you are welcome | 15:23 |
| haleyb | lgtm, thanks john-davidge | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | yeah, thanks john-davidge | 15:23 |
| baoli | john-davidge: good job | 15:23 |
| john-davidge | Thanks all :) | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | Any other bugs I may have missed? | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | ok, in that case | 15:25 |
| mlavalle | #topic Prefix Delegation | 15:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Prefix Delegation (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:25 | |
| baoli | mlavalle: thank you for looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408306/. The remaining CI failures don't seem to be related to the patch, | 15:25 |
| mlavalle | baoli: yeah, I spent a good amount time looking (and learning) at it | 15:26 |
| mlavalle | very hard to argue agains it. It looks pretty good | 15:26 |
| mlavalle | I'll wait for the result of that re-check and will take another look | 15:27 |
| baoli | the Tracebacks in gate-neutron-dsvm-functional-ubuntu-xenial seems to be happening in other patches as well. So it might be a bug that need to be looked at. | 15:27 |
| baoli | http://logs.openstack.org/06/408306/3/check/gate-neutron-dsvm-functional-ubuntu-xenial/8afbeaf/logs/dsvm-functional-logs/neutron.tests.functional.agent.l3.test_ha_router.LinuxBridgeL3HATestCase.test_ha_router_lifecycle.txt.gz | 15:28 |
| baoli | there is an error: cannot open network namespace. | 15:29 |
| mlavalle | While looking at it, I wondered if we need a tempest scenario test | 15:29 |
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| mlavalle | do you think that is doable, baoli? | 15:29 |
| baoli | mlavalle: i'm not quite familiar with the scenario test yet. I wonder if it can be done separately? | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | baoli: yes, I don't mean for you to include a scenario test in this patchset | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | my point is that even with our unit tests, the thing didn't really work and we didn't realize it until you tested it | 15:31 |
| mlavalle | a scenario test in tempest allows you to test at the user level | 15:32 |
| baoli | mlavalle: I agree that we should have such a test. | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's think about that | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | anything else you want to share with the team baoli? | 15:33 |
| baoli | mlavalle: yes | 15:33 |
| baoli | mlavalle: regarding the PD HA feature, I've had the code to make it work. Checking the RFE page, it seems that I shouldn't open a RFE bug anymore. | 15:34 |
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| baoli | So I wonder if I just open a regular bug. What I'm missing now is the unit tests that I need to develop. And again, it seems that some sort of scenario tests are also in order | 15:35 |
| haleyb | baoli: i would agree there is a hole in the PD tests | 15:36 |
| john-davidge | baoli: The bug report wouldn't need to be very detailed, but I believe it would be appropriate to tage it with RFE | 15:36 |
| john-davidge | baoli: Not something that will need a spec I imagine | 15:36 |
| john-davidge | haleyb: baoli: Yup, some PD testing definitely needs attention | 15:37 |
| baoli | haleyb: yeap, things like this is hard to catch in unit tests | 15:37 |
| baoli | john-davidge, if I read the RFE page correctly, if there is immediate code available, then it shouldn't be tagged with RFE | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | baoli: I have experience with tempest scenario. we can discuss it | 15:39 |
| john-davidge | baoli: Ah ok, wasn't aware of that condition. Should be fine then I guess | 15:39 |
| baoli | mlavalle: sure. I can also see if there is someone in my team that can help. | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | ok | 15:40 |
| baoli | so for PD HA, shall I just open a regular bug, and post a WIP patch (without unit tests yet) | 15:40 |
| mlavalle | baoli: anything else? | 15:40 |
| baoli | mlavalle: ^^ | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | baoli: yeah go ahead and do that, please | 15:41 |
| baoli | mlavalle: ok, cool. | 15:41 |
| baoli | malvalle: I'm all set. | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | baoli: thanks for working on this :-) | 15:42 |
| baoli | mlavalle: sure thing | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | #topic Routed Networks | 15:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Routed Networks (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:42 | |
| mlavalle | In this front I have continued working on the integration with the Nova placement API | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | I am almost done with the unit tests | 15:43 |
| mlavalle | and after that I only need to move my placement client to Neutron | 15:43 |
| mlavalle | I expect to be done by year's end | 15:43 |
| mlavalle | Any questions? | 15:44 |
| mlavalle | ok | 15:44 |
| mlavalle | I don't think tidwellr is on line | 15:45 |
| mlavalle | so we will skip BGP dynamic routing | 15:45 |
| mlavalle | #topic Open agenda | 15:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open agenda (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:45 | |
| mlavalle | Does anyone want to share something with the team? | 15:45 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: i am in the process of updating the subnet service type doc for DVR, doing final RST changes | 15:46 |
| haleyb | so i didn't completely forget :) | 15:46 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: thanks.... I didn't want to be annoying with that. I know you won't forget | 15:46 |
| john-davidge | haleyb: Cool! Thanks | 15:46 |
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| mlavalle | anything else? | 15:47 |
| mlavalle | ok haleyb enjoy your time off | 15:47 |
| mlavalle | Thanks everybody for attending | 15:48 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:48 |
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| haleyb | thanks you too! | 15:48 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 15 15:48:42 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2016/neutron_l3.2016-12-15-15.00.html | 15:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2016/neutron_l3.2016-12-15-15.00.txt | 15:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2016/neutron_l3.2016-12-15-15.00.log.html | 15:48 |
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| cdent | who wants to api-wg meeting? | 16:01 |
| elmiko | hi | 16:01 |
| edleafe | \o | 16:01 |
| cdent | #startmeeting api-wg | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 15 16:01:52 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cdent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_wg' | 16:01 |
| cdent | #chair elmiko etoews edleafe | 16:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: cdent edleafe elmiko etoews | 16:02 |
| cdent | #link and https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda | 16:02 |
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| cdent | #topic previous actions items | 16:02 |
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| cdent | there weren't any | 16:02 |
| cdent | #link last week's meeting notes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2016/api_wg.2016-12-08-16.00.html | 16:03 |
| cdent | #topic new biz/open mic | 16:03 |
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| cdent | welcome edleafe to api-wg coreness | 16:03 |
| edleafe | \o/ | 16:03 |
| elmiko | \o/ | 16:03 |
| scottda | hi | 16:03 |
| elmiko | welcome =) | 16:03 |
| cdent | you've been added to the gerrit group and also made a member of some launchpad groups | 16:03 |
| cdent | in the process I made everyone who is core an admin in the launchpad groups | 16:04 |
| cdent | Anyone else have some new business they'd like to bring up? Or continuing business? | 16:04 |
| cdent | okay then | 16:05 |
| cdent | #topic guidelines | 16:05 |
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| cdent | there are no new guidelines, the capabilities guidelines continues slowly but surely | 16:05 |
| cdent | and this one is ready to merge | 16:05 |
| cdent | #link clarify 404 v 400: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/405515/ | 16:06 |
| edleafe | still not thrilled with the cap guideline | 16:06 |
| cdent | me neither, but it is hard to articulate why | 16:06 |
| edleafe | it is a mish-mash of several things | 16:06 |
| edleafe | policy, authorization, cloud hardware | 16:07 |
| edleafe | maybe quotas, too | 16:07 |
| cdent | I left a comment earlier today that I thought some of it could be accomplished by having better representations on instances of resources and where that was the case capabilities was not the answer | 16:08 |
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| cdent | #link capabilities proposal: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386555/ | 16:09 |
| elmiko | ty | 16:09 |
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| cdent | just noticed a new proposal/fix from edleafe | 16:12 |
| cdent | #link tidy up capitalization rules: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/411391/ | 16:12 |
| edleafe | yes, getting a bit pedantic here | 16:12 |
| edleafe | nothing of substance | 16:12 |
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| cdent | I went to fast approve it but then decided not to, thinking it was one of those things where everyone would want to get their oar in first | 16:12 |
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| edleafe | just noticed it when looking at the bugs for boolean and state/status, since it was the line above :) | 16:13 |
| * cdent nods | 16:13 | |
| edleafe | Sure, everyone grab a paintbrush! | 16:13 |
| edleafe | :) | 16:13 |
| cdent | anyone have anything further to say about capabilities? I rather think it is going to be a tough one as the history of desire behind the functionality is long | 16:15 |
| elmiko | only that it seems like a vibrant discussion | 16:15 |
| elmiko | ;) | 16:15 |
| cdent | tru dat | 16:15 |
| edleafe | It feels premature. There is no real consensus on what 'capabilities' means to projects | 16:16 |
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| edleafe | We should really know what it is we are talking about before trying to write guidelines that apply to everyone | 16:16 |
| cdent | indeed | 16:16 |
| elmiko | that seems entirely too sensisble | 16:16 |
| edleafe | elmiko: sorry, then I must have mis-typed :) | 16:17 |
| elmiko | haha | 16:17 |
| cdent | This stuff showed up in the cross-project-spec world in the past and has moved to the api-wg from there, presumably because there are at least some people who think is mature/required enough to need to move | 16:18 |
| cdent | which I agree probably indicates that there are widely varying degrees of understanding | 16:18 |
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| cdent | may haps we should more explicitly invite participation (by linking from the sardonic introductory paragraph of the newsletter?)? | 16:20 |
| edleafe | cdent: sure, couldn't hurt | 16:20 |
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| elmiko | +1 | 16:20 |
| edleafe | although a lack of response might be more related to holiday timing than lack of interest | 16:21 |
| elmiko | good point | 16:21 |
| cdent | #action (whoever newsletters) agitate for more action on capabilities in newletter | 16:21 |
| cdent | it's been under review for several weeks | 16:21 |
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| cdent | #topic bug review | 16:23 |
| cdent | #link https://github.com/openstack/api-wg/blame/384803a489af7ccdab59a2b52f6fa2c3e5db76c2/guidelines/naming.rst#L37-L39 | 16:23 |
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| cdent | "Start discussion on the naming of boolean and state/status " | 16:23 |
| * cdent looks at edleafe | 16:23 | |
| edleafe | Yeah, I was looking through the bugs and thought it would be good to get everyone's feelings on these | 16:24 |
| edleafe | Or I could put up a strawman for you to beat up | 16:24 |
| cdent | did the early days already gather the status quo? | 16:24 |
| edleafe | cdent: you mean survey how they are currently implemented? | 16:26 |
| cdent | yeah, I seem to recall (mostly before my time) that there was a period of data gathering | 16:27 |
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| cdent | on the state of the art | 16:27 |
| cdent | so I wondered if we already know what the norm is for booleans | 16:27 |
| elmiko | yeah, those studies have been pretty revealing and helpful in the past | 16:27 |
| elmiko | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/API_Working_Group/Current_Design | 16:27 |
| edleafe | I'm not aware of any for boolean | 16:28 |
| cdent | here's state and status: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/API_Working_Group/Current_Design/State_vs_Status | 16:29 |
| cdent | (probably out of date) | 16:30 |
| edleafe | 'state' seems more limited in usage | 16:31 |
| edleafe | semantically, not just in those survey numbers | 16:31 |
| cdent | Can someone explain (just for the record and for my own clarity) the goal on providing guidance on these sorts of things? Presumably consistency when reused across service apis? | 16:32 |
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| elmiko | that was my impression | 16:32 |
| edleafe | cdent: yeah, that's the idea. | 16:33 |
| elmiko | consistency, but also an attempt to provide /limited/ sanity | 16:33 |
| elmiko | that last part only really becomes an issue if we can get to the guideline before everyone has an impl though | 16:33 |
| cdent | Part of the reason I ask is because to some extent that aspect of guidance has kind of ended up playing second fiddle to "make sure you follow the HTTP spec". | 16:33 |
| edleafe | When developing an SDK for the APIs, there were many such "why is it A here, but B there?" moments | 16:33 |
| * cdent nods | 16:34 | |
| edleafe | cdent: I think the value in having these sorts of things is to help settle arguments over stuff before it descends to bikeshedding | 16:34 |
| cdent | blue | 16:34 |
| cdent | of course | 16:34 |
| cdent | except on every other tuesday | 16:35 |
| edleafe | So how does this sound: I'll do some quick checking, and then put up strawmen as a first pass | 16:35 |
| cdent | If you have the cycles that's awesome | 16:35 |
| elmiko | +1 | 16:35 |
| cdent | #action edleafe to provide strawmen on booleans and state/status | 16:36 |
| edleafe | damn, I had just about finished typing that exact #action when yours appeared | 16:36 |
| * edleafe has to type faster | 16:36 | |
| cdent | any other bug topics? | 16:36 |
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| cdent | #topic weekly newsletter | 16:37 |
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| cdent | #link newsletter https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-wg-newsletter | 16:37 |
| edleafe | I promised no such thing! | 16:40 |
| elmiko | haha | 16:40 |
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| cdent | edleafe: are you red? | 16:41 |
| edleafe | yes - isn't my name showing up? | 16:42 |
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| cdent | new guidelines has historically meant "stuff that was merged recently" (and I've just merged the 404 v 400 thing). The idea being that it's not really until it has merged | 16:42 |
| cdent | (the chat was in the way) | 16:43 |
| edleafe | cdent: ah, sorry | 16:43 |
| * edleafe was working with a different definition of 'new' | 16:43 | |
| cdent | yeah, I had the same confusion | 16:47 |
| * cdent tunes up the title slightly | 16:47 | |
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| cdent | anyone have anything to add to newsletter? or edits to fix my typos? | 16:49 |
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| cdent | good add edleafe | 16:52 |
| elmiko | lgtm | 16:52 |
| cdent | any last words from anyone? | 16:53 |
| edleafe | agreed | 16:53 |
| edleafe | I'm off after Friday for the rest of December | 16:53 |
| elmiko | have a good holiday to all =) | 16:53 |
| edleafe | cheers! | 16:53 |
| cdent | next two meetings are cancelled, back in biz in january | 16:54 |
| cdent | thanks everyone for a good year of api stuff | 16:54 |
| edleafe | Hear hear! | 16:55 |
| elmiko | \o/ | 16:55 |
| cdent | #endmeeting | 16:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 15 16:55:30 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2016/api_wg.2016-12-15-16.01.html | 16:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2016/api_wg.2016-12-15-16.01.txt | 16:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2016/api_wg.2016-12-15-16.01.log.html | 16:55 |
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| tbachman | FYI — those here for the GBP weekly IRC meeting, we’ll be starting in 15 minutes | 18:00 |
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| rkukura | hi SumitNaiksatam | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: hi | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: hi | 18:14 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: hi! | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | apologies for the delayed start | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | got stuck in the clinic with my son | 18:15 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:16 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 15 18:16:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:16 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:16 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | back to our favorite topic | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Remove expunge_all calls | 18:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Remove expunge_all calls (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:16 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399772/ | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: hi | 18:16 |
| songole | hi | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: any chance that you can summarize the findings at your end? | 18:17 |
| songole | SumitNaiksatam: I have asked Ashutosh to join. | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: ah great | 18:17 |
| songole | Don't see him online though | 18:18 |
| songole | Too late for them in India | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: completely understandable | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | based on his last email it seemed that he suspected that cascaded delete was not working as expected? | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: you have thoughts on that? | 18:18 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: I wasn’t sure. | 18:19 |
| tbachman | He said something about avoiding things, but not fixing them | 18:19 |
| tbachman | the gate passes tho | 18:19 |
| tbachman | so, I wasn’t sure what else he was looking into | 18:19 |
| songole | Are the tests passing with the fix he made? | 18:21 |
| tbachman | the gate passes. No exceptions in the logs either | 18:21 |
| songole | ok. thought he was seeing exceptions elsewhere | 18:21 |
| tbachman | oh | 18:21 |
| tbachman | I can go back and look at the latest | 18:21 |
| tbachman | I just looked at the gate that was failing | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: yeah the tests were passing | 18:22 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i am taking a look at the patch again | 18:23 |
| tbachman | If I read it correctly, he thought that a cascade was causing something to be deleted, so when it later was going to be deleted explicitly, it failed because it was already gone | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: ah okay | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so now he is catching that exception | 18:24 |
| tbachman | right | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i guess we are good then :-) | 18:24 |
| tbachman | but that was just from looking briefly at the change and his email | 18:24 |
| tbachman | lol | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | right | 18:24 |
| tbachman | yeah — it sounded like he felt there was more onion to peel. | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i actually had not seen his most recent patch | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | just saw it | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *patch set | 18:25 |
| tbachman | (from the last email he sent) | 18:25 |
| tbachman | maybe that’s changed | 18:25 |
| tbachman | dunno | 18:25 |
| songole | SumitNaiksatam: I was caught up with other things. didn't get a chance to sync up with him. | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | if this is all that is needed this looks good to me | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: np | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: how about we recheck this a few times today | 18:25 |
| tbachman | I think the question is: if this is it, does this need to go hand-in-hand with the patch that removes the expunge? | 18:26 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: sounds good | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: i will keep a watch and do it | 18:26 |
| tbachman | (i.e. two separate patches, or one) | 18:26 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: thanks! | 18:26 |
| tbachman | I can help there too | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: i am fine either ways, since its the removal of expunge calls that reveals this, i am fine if the fix goes in the same patch | 18:26 |
| tbachman | k | 18:27 |
| tbachman | If this passes functional testing, then we can create the other patch that removes all of the expunge infrastructure | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think some explanation can be added as to how expunge_all was masking the issue | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: sure | 18:27 |
| tbachman | right | 18:27 |
| tbachman | songole: thanks to you and your team for digging in to this | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: in this patch we can put a comment in the place where we have commented out the calls to expunge_all as to why we are doing that and what is the effect of just having the yield in there (basically that its a no-op) | 18:28 |
| tbachman | I’m not quite as familiar with this code, so it’s appreciated | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: thanks indeed | 18:28 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: sounds good | 18:28 |
| songole | tbachman: SumitNaiksatam: I will pass it on... | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: of course, BIG thanks to you for preservering with this investigation | 18:29 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: np! | 18:29 |
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| tbachman | I just kicked things off :-) | 18:29 |
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| tbachman | (sound of ball dropping, and OneConvergence team picking it up) | 18:30 |
| tbachman | lol | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: lol | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: you did way more than that | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but this was a tough one | 18:30 |
| songole | SumitNaiksatam: after this fix, can we remove the monkey patch in lb? | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: you can try, but i dont it gaurantees | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *dont think it | 18:31 |
| songole | tbachman: thanks for all the help | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | since we were earlier discussing that ideally the db objects should be accessed within a transaction | 18:31 |
| tbachman | songole: my pleasure — thank you and your team! | 18:31 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | songole: i would recommend that we drop the lbaas patch and watch how it behaves | 18:32 |
| tbachman | one… | 18:32 |
| songole | SumitNaiksatam: ok. will do | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | (after we merge this patch) | 18:32 |
| tbachman | step.... | 18:32 |
| tbachman | at... | 18:32 |
| tbachman | a… | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | time | 18:32 |
| tbachman | lol | 18:32 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | got the message :-) | 18:32 |
| songole | tbachman: slowly | 18:33 |
| songole | getting | 18:33 |
| songole | it | 18:33 |
| tbachman | lol | 18:33 |
| songole | :) | 18:33 |
| tbachman | :) | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | :-) | 18:33 |
| tbachman | songole: nice 1 | 18:33 |
| tbachman | (sound of 9600 baud modem) | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so, tbachman will you be adding the comments for the expunge_all call? | 18:33 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: ack | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: lol | 18:33 |
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| tbachman | I’ll add it to his patch | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: right | 18:34 |
| tbachman | (since he cherry-picked the expunge) | 18:34 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | songole: once tbachman adds his comment, perhaps ashutosh can his investigation summary to the commit mesage (why the we catch objectdeleted exception, etc) and then we shoud be good | 18:34 |
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| songole | SumitNaiksatam: ok | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *can add | 18:35 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: will have that sometime after this meeting (am currently on VPN, and can’t push gerrits from my VM) | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: thanks | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: sure no hurry, we can let the current rebased run finish before we update the patch, so that we get the validation | 18:35 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: thx | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: plan sound okay to you? | 18:36 |
| rkukura | sure | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay, thanks | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so we will wait until tomorrow to +2/A this | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | assuming (touch wood), this consistently passes the gate | 18:36 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion | 18:37 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | FYI - the stable/liberty branches are being eol'ed | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i have requested that the GBP branches be not eol'ed | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and i dont think they will be touched | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but since the other project branches will be eol’ed our devstack gate job will soon stop working on the stable/liberty patches | 18:38 |
| * tbachman just realized that he needs to check the EOL status of networking-cisco | 18:39 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | so we will have to just rely on the py27 job once that happens (it hasnt happened yet, so the results of those jobs should still be taken into consideration when voting on a patch) | 18:39 |
| rkukura | Same will happen for mitaka next, right? Do we know if the short cycle now will mean that is in less than 6 months? | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: okay, i think there is a list | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: :-( | 18:40 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: thx | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i wish you hadnt said that | 18:40 |
| tbachman | lol | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: i will check on the list | 18:40 |
| tbachman | thx | 18:40 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: don’t sweat it — I can dig it up | 18:40 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: rkukura just gave you more to work on anyway ;) | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: :-( | 18:40 |
| tbachman | lol | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | our rally job has been broken for a few days | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | it was actually broken for other projects too, i have to check how they fixed it | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we might have to cap some setuptools dependency | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | other that i am gettting the aim job to work now | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hopefully it should be ready soon | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | meeting logistics - there are no openstack project meetings happening over the next couple of weeks | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we wil meet next week only if there is some urgent need, otherwise the meeting is cancelled for the next couple of weeks | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | if we are meeting next week, i will ping you, else assume we are not | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: i know you will be on PTO | 18:44 |
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| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: ack. From 20th - 27th | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: so dont bother about this even if we end up meeting | 18:44 |
| tbachman | k | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i will be on leave too | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything else that we need to discuss? | 18:44 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | its a big relief that we are finally making progress on the expunge_all stuff! | 18:45 |
| rkukura | not that I can think of | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ok thanks | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: any parting year end thoughts? | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | “parting” could also be interpreted as “partying” ;-) | 18:46 |
| songole | SumitNaiksatam: happy holidays .. :) | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | songole: nice one :-) | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: thanks again for all your work, anything else? | 18:46 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: not from me, other than to wish all a happy holidays! | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yeah, thanks for all the work during the year, and happy holidays to all@ | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ! | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks for joining today | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye all! | 18:47 |
| songole | bye | 18:47 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: thank you! | 18:47 |
| tbachman | bye! | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 18:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:47 | |
| rkukura | thanks SumitNaiksatam | 18:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 15 18:47:52 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2016/networking_policy.2016-12-15-18.16.html | 18:47 |
| rkukura | bye | 18:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2016/networking_policy.2016-12-15-18.16.txt | 18:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2016/networking_policy.2016-12-15-18.16.log.html | 18:47 |
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