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| lvdongbing | #startmeeting bilean | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 23 14:00:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lvdongbing. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: bilean)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'bilean' | 14:00 |
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| zhongshengping | hi | 14:00 |
| lvdongbing | hi:) | 14:01 |
| lvdongbing | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/BileanAgenda | 14:01 |
| liaonanhai | topic | 14:01 |
| zhongshengping | :) | 14:01 |
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| liaonanhai | #topic | 14:01 |
| lvdongbing | Pls feel free to add topics | 14:01 |
| lvdongbing | #topic roll call | 14:01 |
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| lvdongbing | This is the first meeting for bilean | 14:02 |
| zhongshengping | oh | 14:02 |
| zhongshengping | can you introduce bilean? | 14:03 |
| liaonanhai | hello everyone | 14:03 |
| lvdongbing | Sue | 14:03 |
| lvdongbing | Sure | 14:03 |
| lvdongbing | #info Welcome to Bilean Project community meeting | 14:03 |
| lvdongbing | Seems just three of us in | 14:04 |
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| lvdongbing | Let's move on | 14:04 |
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| lvdongbing | #topic Project introduction | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Project introduction (Meeting topic: bilean)" | 14:04 | |
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| zhongshengping | . | 14:05 |
| zhongshengping | ls | 14:05 |
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| lvdongbing | Bilean used to be our private billing project in KylinCloud, we uploaded it to Github last december and made a lot of changes to compatible with OpenStack | 14:05 |
| lvdongbing | Are you ok? zsp:) | 14:06 |
| lvdongbing | The mission for Bilean is to provide a trigger-type and real-time billing service for OpenStack Cloud. | 14:07 |
| liaonanhai | real-time ? | 14:08 |
| liaonanhai | how times? | 14:08 |
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| lvdongbing | The project is now located on OpenStack with both server and client side, and supports to deploy via devstack. | 14:09 |
| liaonanhai | Consume a lot of resources? | 14:09 |
| lvdongbing | Actually not | 14:10 |
| lvdongbing | #link https://launchpad.net/bilean | 14:11 |
| lvdongbing | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Bilean | 14:11 |
| lvdongbing | #link http://bilean.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ | 14:11 |
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| liaonanhai | http://bilean.readthedocs.io/en/latest/overview.html? no exit? | 14:13 |
| liaonanhai | existing | 14:13 |
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| zhongshengping | use restful api develop ? like nova? | 14:13 |
| lvdongbing | Traditional billing system most base on period task | 14:13 |
| lvdongbing | liaonanhai, It's ok | 14:14 |
| lvdongbing | Maybe the server is blocked | 14:14 |
| liaonanhai | my internet is bad | 14:15 |
| zhongshengping | oh | 14:15 |
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| lvdongbing | Yes, completely rest api | 14:15 |
| lvdongbing | With links above you can get detailed information about our project. | 14:16 |
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| liaonanhai | roll call ? | 14:16 |
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| lvdongbing | #topic Recent work items | 14:18 |
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| liaonanhai | how to implement? | 14:18 |
| liaonanhai | plan | 14:18 |
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| zhongshengping | i am a new develper, want to contribute it, only use devstack to deploy? | 14:20 |
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| lvdongbing | Yes, I recommend that way | 14:21 |
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| zhongshengping | oh, | 14:21 |
| lvdongbing | Detailed installing information can view: http://bilean.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ | 14:22 |
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| zhongshengping | lvdongbing thanks | 14:23 |
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| lvdongbing | I'm very glad to see you to contribute | 14:24 |
| zhongshengping | :) | 14:24 |
| lvdongbing | So let's move on | 14:24 |
| lvdongbing | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/bilean | 14:25 |
| lvdongbing | Pls visit the link above to get our recent work items. | 14:25 |
| zhongshengping | is there priority? | 14:27 |
| zhongshengping | is there priority for plan? | 14:28 |
| lvdongbing | Yes, high, middle and low | 14:28 |
| lvdongbing | You can see it on the etherpad | 14:28 |
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| zhongshengping | i think the test can be high priority. | 14:29 |
| lvdongbing | Yes, it's very important, but I just think it's a long time work | 14:30 |
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| lvdongbing | If there are any work you interest in, or you know how how to do it, just do it | 14:33 |
| zhongshengping | oh | 14:33 |
| lvdongbing | #topic About big tent | 14:34 |
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| lvdongbing | I want to apply bigtent recently, any suggestions? | 14:35 |
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| zhongshengping | what is big tent? | 14:36 |
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| zhongshengping | i am not understand. | 14:37 |
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| lvdongbing | Big tent is the new release model for OpenStack | 14:43 |
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| lvdongbing | Project in big tent will statistics to OpenStack at http://stackalytics.com/ | 14:44 |
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| zhongshengping | oh,oh | 14:45 |
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| lvdongbing | So any other questions, suggestions? | 14:47 |
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| lvdongbing | Ok, discussions can continue on #openstack-bilean | 14:48 |
| lvdongbing | See you | 14:48 |
| zhongshengping | oh, have a good day:) | 14:49 |
| lvdongbing | Thanks:) | 14:49 |
| zhongshengping | :) | 14:49 |
| lvdongbing | #endmeeting | 14:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 23 14:49:25 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bilean/2016/bilean.2016-06-23-14.00.html | 14:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bilean/2016/bilean.2016-06-23-14.00.txt | 14:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bilean/2016/bilean.2016-06-23-14.00.log.html | 14:49 |
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| pavel_bondar | hi | 15:00 |
| yamamoto | hi | 15:00 |
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| carl_baldwin | o/ | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 15:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 15:00 |
| shahid__ | Hi Team | 15:00 |
| njohnston | o/ | 15:00 |
| tidwellr_ | hi | 15:00 |
| tidwellr_ | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 23 15:01:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tidwellr_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:01 |
| tidwellr_ | #chair mlavalle carl_baldwin | 15:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: carl_baldwin mlavalle tidwellr_ | 15:01 |
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| tidwellr_ | #topic Announcements | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:02 | |
| tidwellr_ | call for abstracts for summit is now open, get your L3 talks submitted :) | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | deadline is July 13th | 15:03 |
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| tidwellr_ | Newton-2 is also that week | 15:04 |
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| njohnston | I am submitting one on L2/L3 agent extensions | 15:04 |
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| tidwellr_ | njohnston: nice | 15:05 |
| tidwellr_ | that's all the announcements I had, anything else? | 15:05 |
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| tidwellr_ | alright, let's dive in | 15:06 |
| carl_baldwin | Don't forget the mid-cycle. | 15:06 |
| tidwellr_ | oh yes, mid-cycle | 15:06 |
| carl_baldwin | I just got approved for travel but haven't booked yet. Anyone booked yet? | 15:06 |
| * mlavalle still awaiting approval | 15:06 | |
| tidwellr_ | carl_baldwin: I don't think I'll be able to attend so it selfishly didn't cross my mind :) | 15:07 |
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| mlavalle | The etherpad is here: | 15:07 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr_: :( | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-neutron-midcycle | 15:08 |
| tidwellr_ | mlavalle: thanks, I was just going to ask about that | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | August 17 - 19, Cork Ireland | 15:08 |
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| haleyb | I was approved as well, but didn't get approval from the other boss yet :) | 15:08 |
| john-davidge | Just booked my travel today :) | 15:09 |
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| tidwellr_ | looks like decent turnout | 15:10 |
| tidwellr_ | wish I could be there :( | 15:10 |
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| tidwellr_ | #topic Bugs | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:11 | |
| tidwellr_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1594376 | 15:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1594376 in neutron "Delete subnet fails with "ObjectDeletedError: Instance '<IPAllocation at 0x7f6abc3abe50>' has been deleted, or its row is otherwise not present."" [High,Confirmed] | 15:11 |
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| tidwellr_ | this one looks suspicious, I'm just going to duck out of the way ;) | 15:12 |
| carl_baldwin | This is a gate failure. | 15:12 |
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| carl_baldwin | Don't know when it started. It isn't super frequent but if we don't take care of it, it'll get noticed more. | 15:13 |
| tidwellr_ | carl_baldwin: any chance this is related to the recent IPAM changes we've made? | 15:13 |
| tidwellr_ | ie not storing allocations anymore | 15:13 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr_: Too soon for me to tell. | 15:13 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr_: We store allocations | 15:14 |
| tidwellr_ | sorry, availability..... | 15:14 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr_: We don't store availability. | 15:14 |
| carl_baldwin | :) | 15:14 |
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| tidwellr_ | it's all the same, right :) | 15:14 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr_: I don't see how it relates but I can't rule it out yet. | 15:14 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr_: rrrighhtt. | 15:15 |
| tidwellr_ | ok, doesn't look like we have much to talk about yet | 15:15 |
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| carl_baldwin | Is anyone interested in doing some looking in to this one? | 15:15 |
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| pavel_bondar | I'll try to make a brief look, but don't have enough bandwidth to completely take this one | 15:16 |
| carl_baldwin | Looks like it kind of spiked yesterday. | 15:16 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: Anything you can do. Let me know if you get any insight at all. | 15:16 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: I can probably take a look later today. | 15:17 |
| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: ok, I'll let you know if I find something | 15:17 |
| tidwellr_ | pavel_bondar:thanks | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: Looks like this review is kind of a hot spot for it. | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155631/ | 15:18 |
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| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: I have no idea why yet but over half the occurrences are on that patchset. | 15:19 |
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| tidwellr_ | anything else on this one? | 15:20 |
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| carl_baldwin | Nope | 15:21 |
| tidwellr_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1564335 | 15:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1564335 in neutron " [Pluggable IPAM] delete subnet in ml2 plugin does not comply with pluggable ipam (deletes ip allocations directly from db)" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Pavel Bondar (pasha117) | 15:21 |
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| pavel_bondar | last patch on for this bug #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323345/ | 15:22 |
| pavel_bondar | has +2 | 15:22 |
| pavel_bondar | so I guess it is pretty close to merge | 15:22 |
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| carl_baldwin | haleyb: do you mind looking? ^ | 15:23 |
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| haleyb | sure, will look | 15:23 |
| carl_baldwin | haleyb: thanks | 15:24 |
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| tidwellr_ | looks like that's it for bugs | 15:24 |
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| john-davidge | This one seems to be about agents in general but mentions that the l3 agent is affected https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1594439 | 15:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1594439 in neutron "Bad initialization sequence in Neutron agents (and maybe somewhere else)" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Yuriy Taraday (yorik-sar) | 15:25 |
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| carl_baldwin | I put a link to gate failures in the etherpad. We should keep an eye on that list and tag any that are related to us. | 15:25 |
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| mlavalle | ++ | 15:25 |
| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: Thanks. | 15:25 |
| tidwellr_ | carl_baldwin: good call | 15:26 |
| tidwellr_ | btw etherpad is here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-l3-subteam | 15:26 |
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| tidwellr_ | any more bugs to discuss? | 15:27 |
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| tidwellr_ | #topic Routed Networks | 15:28 |
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| tidwellr_ | carl_baldwin: do you have an update for us? | 15:28 |
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| carl_baldwin | I need to write a UT for me new patch to nova to allow deferred IP port. | 15:29 |
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| carl_baldwin | It is a pretty simple patch. I'll put it up today. | 15:29 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle has done great work getting us a vagrant environment. I used it for an internal demo yesterday. | 15:30 |
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| carl_baldwin | I'm going to try to add a router to it and get the whole thing working so that I can test the DHCP change from blog. | 15:30 |
| carl_baldwin | blogan | 15:30 |
| * carl_baldwin typing too fast. | 15:30 | |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: if you dont have time this week to do that, I will do it. Let me know | 15:31 |
| carl_baldwin | I've tried to help the nova stuff along. We need to stay active there. | 15:31 |
| mlavalle | yes | 15:31 |
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| mlavalle | I am also trying to help there | 15:31 |
| mlavalle | at least some of the patchsets are merging | 15:32 |
| carl_baldwin | johnthetubaguy 's work seems to be progressing well. It starts here now: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327009 | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | that one will merge soon | 15:32 |
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| carl_baldwin | Looks like momentum is building. | 15:33 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: How is the scheduling stuff going? | 15:33 |
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| mlavalle | this is the gerrit topic: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/prep-for-network-aware-scheduling | 15:33 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I feel guilty that I've not been paying as much attention to that aspect. | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | they are also making progress, not as fast though | 15:33 |
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| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: This merged: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300207/ | 15:34 |
| carl_baldwin | haleyb: ^ I'm sure you knew that already | 15:34 |
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| * john-davidge has been celebrating :D | 15:34 | |
| carl_baldwin | haleyb: john-davidge: I think we can get this coded by N-2. How shall we proceed? | 15:34 |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: haleyb and I have been discussing working on the implementation together | 15:35 |
| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: haleyb: Awesome! | 15:35 |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: The idea is to tag team the patches acorss our time zones | 15:35 |
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| haleyb | carl_baldwin: i have talked to john offline, I will get a CRUD patch out today hopefully that we can work together on. Once in good shape we'll get to IPAM | 15:35 |
| haleyb | the OSC work can be based on my neutronclient patch | 15:36 |
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| carl_baldwin | haleyb: sounds like good progress. Let me know as soon as you need reviews. | 15:37 |
| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: ^ | 15:37 |
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| carl_baldwin | tidwellr_: That's about it. Just need to spend a little more time on the nova scheduling aspect. | 15:39 |
| tidwellr_ | carl_baldwin: you've created a flurry of activity, it's great! | 15:39 |
| carl_baldwin | That's what I do. :) | 15:39 |
| tidwellr_ | #topic BGP Dynamic Routing | 15:40 |
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| tidwellr_ | I'm going to start looking at getting some of the check jobs up and running | 15:41 |
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| tidwellr_ | steve_ruan: how is the EVPN spec coming along? | 15:42 |
| steve_ruan | it's ok | 15:42 |
| steve_ruan | we submit a patch to in networking-bgpvpn | 15:43 |
| steve_ruan | https://review.openstack.org/332711 | 15:43 |
| steve_ruan | then will submit bgpvpn binding to speaker patch soon | 15:43 |
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| tidwellr_ | steve_ruan: I owe you some reviews, I'll try to get to that before the end of the week | 15:43 |
| steve_ruan | tidwellr_, thanks | 15:44 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr_: Feel free to tag me as a second reviewer on those too. | 15:44 |
| tidwellr_ | carl_baldwin: will do | 15:44 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr_: Just shoot me a ping when you do. | 15:44 |
| carl_baldwin | I don't see a lot of gerrit updates. | 15:44 |
| tidwellr_ | I didn't have anything else on this topic | 15:45 |
| tidwellr_ | #topic FWaaS | 15:45 |
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| njohnston | So I responded to the last set of feedback on the l3 extensions spec | 15:46 |
| njohnston | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315745/ | 15:46 |
| njohnston | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315745/ | 15:46 |
| njohnston | sadly, I didn't realize you had just given it a +2+A carl_baldwin, so I quashed that. If you could check it and reapply, that would be awesome. | 15:47 |
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| carl_baldwin | njohnston: looking... | 15:47 |
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| njohnston | In the meantime, I have been working with mfranc213_ to refactor https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329701/ which is moving the existing l2 agent extension mechanism out to a common place where both l2 and l3 agents can use it | 15:47 |
| njohnston | ajo and ihrachys had a good idea about how to generalize the code so that extensions can register a handler for whatever kind of RPC message they want to consume | 15:48 |
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| njohnston | So that is the current work; once the mechanism is a little more ready I'll post a change on the fwaas side that makes use of the agent extension capability. | 15:49 |
| njohnston | I'm not exactly sure what additional kinds of unit testing need to exist for this, but otherwise I think things are looking promising. | 15:49 |
| carl_baldwin | njohnston: Thanks. | 15:50 |
| carl_baldwin | njohnston: ping me when you've worked through their feedback. | 15:50 |
| njohnston | carl_baldwin: Will do, thanks! | 15:51 |
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| carl_baldwin | tidwellr_: back to you. | 15:52 |
| tidwellr_ | thanks | 15:52 |
| tidwellr_ | #topic Open Discussion | 15:52 |
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| tidwellr_ | anything we missed that needs some discussion? | 15:52 |
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| carl_baldwin | I think I'm good. | 15:54 |
| tidwellr_ | alrighty then | 15:54 |
| tidwellr_ | have 5 minute back everyone | 15:54 |
| tidwellr_ | thanks! | 15:54 |
| tidwellr_ | #endmeeting | 15:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 23 15:54:44 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2016/neutron_l3.2016-06-23-15.01.html | 15:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2016/neutron_l3.2016-06-23-15.01.txt | 15:54 |
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| carl_baldwin | Thanks! | 15:57 |
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| docaedo | courtesy ping: igormarnat_ ddovbii__ kfox1111 olaph kzaitsev_mb | 17:00 |
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| * olaph does the neutron dance | 17:00 | |
| * docaedo doesn't want to know what that looks like :p | 17:00 | |
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| docaedo | I forgot to send a meeting announcement this week, but I think the people that show up don't really need to be reminded (hopefully) | 17:01 |
| igormarnat_ | docaedo: o/ | 17:01 |
| docaedo | igormarnat_: glad you're not stuck in another meeting today! | 17:01 |
| docaedo | #startmeeting app-catalog | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 23 17:01:40 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is docaedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'app_catalog' | 17:01 |
| docaedo | Todays agenda: | 17:01 |
| docaedo | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/app-catalog#Proposed_Agenda_for_June_23rd.2C_2016_.281700_UTC.29 Agenda | 17:01 |
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| kzaitsev_ws | o/ | 17:02 |
| docaedo | #topic Status updates | 17:02 |
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| sskripnick | hiyo | 17:02 |
| docaedo | There were some outstanding action items from two weeks ago: | 17:02 |
| docaedo | * ACTION: Igor to get on the Infra agenda to discuss app-dev CI | 17:02 |
| docaedo | * ACTION: Igor to start threads with Glance and Heat teams about automated validation of templates and images | 17:02 |
| docaedo | and welcome sskripnick! | 17:02 |
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| igormarnat_ | docaedo: Yes, I remember about both of them | 17:03 |
| docaedo | :) | 17:03 |
| igormarnat_ | For the first one - we kept polishing tests and whole CI setup to be able to start discussing it with Infra team | 17:03 |
| igormarnat_ | Not fully done yet, but I hope to have more news by our next meeting | 17:03 |
| docaedo | ok cool, sounds like the proposal will be to include something you'll be hosting? Or are you "testing tests" against regular openstack infra? | 17:04 |
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| igormarnat_ | For the second one - I briefly talked to glance team about what can be done, to do for Heat. Again, still on me, hope to have more news by next meeting | 17:04 |
| docaedo | ok thanks for the updates on that | 17:04 |
| igormarnat_ | azvyagintsev: do you have more details about our status with CI for Murano Apps? | 17:05 |
| docaedo | based on last weeks conversation and the commits I've seen, sskripnick is now working to integrate auth for app catalog for glance backend | 17:05 |
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| igormarnat_ | azvyagintsev: when do you think we can be prepared to talk with OpenStack Infra folks? | 17:05 |
| igormarnat_ | docaedo: Yep, we involved Sergey to work on that | 17:05 |
| docaedo | (just want to suggest sskripnick join #openstack-app-catalog if/when there are questions about implementation and requirements, etc.) | 17:05 |
| azvyagintsev | some kind - on investigating POC phase | 17:05 |
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| igormarnat_ | sskripnick: here? | 17:06 |
| azvyagintsev | guess, when we run some experimental flows - in 1-2 weeks | 17:06 |
| sskripnick | http://r-ci.tk:8001/ <- here is the "demo" | 17:07 |
| kzaitsev_mb | really sorry for being erratic today — I'm in the middle of security-related workflow and this really draws a bunch of my attention | 17:07 |
| sskripnick | you can only login/logout | 17:07 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link http://r-ci.tk:8001/ | 17:07 |
| docaedo | kzaitsev_mb: no problem | 17:07 |
| sskripnick | and here is the patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332911/ | 17:07 |
| sskripnick | I not familiar with angular, so its hard to tell how many time it will take to finish | 17:07 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332911/ | 17:07 |
| docaedo | sskripnick: that's cool and looks/works nice for the first pass! | 17:08 |
| sskripnick | thanks | 17:08 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | also here is the list of patches we've done and thir readines/whether they would break smth or not https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/app-catalog-glare | 17:08 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/app-catalog-glare | 17:08 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | only really need to change one, and the others are UI related, so probably would require a round of UI negotiations )) | 17:09 |
| docaedo | kzaitsev_mb: nice, that' | 17:10 |
| docaedo | that's good progress | 17:10 |
| docaedo | as you and others get closer to wanting to start merging stuff let's talk about it on #openstack-app-catalog | 17:11 |
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| docaedo | same goes for if we need to talk about UI changes and stuff | 17:11 |
| igormarnat_ | docaedo: kzaitsev_mb what about those which are ready to be merged? Can we ... you know ... merge them? :) | 17:12 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | Yep, I think we can =) you can double-check, that they do not modify any of the existing API, or server code | 17:13 |
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| docaedo | yep, I'll review the two that are ready to merge and give feedback - we'll have to get kfox1111 to take a look as well before merging this (which is why I'm suggesting we talk at least sometimes on the channel) | 17:14 |
| kzaitsev_mb | docaedo: sure, I can get around and remind explain the impact of every one of those ) | 17:14 |
| docaedo | kzaitsev_mb: that would be great | 17:14 |
| igormarnat_ | kzaitsev_mb: we also need to add patch from Sergey to the list in the etherpad, aren't we? | 17:15 |
| kzaitsev_mb | let's do this like, maybe tomorrow? =) I will also be able to update the api v1/v2 patch, so it would be 3 of them | 17:16 |
| docaedo | kzaitsev_mb: sure let's talk further tomorrow | 17:16 |
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| igormarnat_ | sskripnick: kzaitsev_mb you said that for now you can only login/logout. Do we expect to have more for the very first patch? I thought it would be enough to start, isn't it? | 17:18 |
| sskripnick | igormarnat_: agree | 17:19 |
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| sskripnick | igormarnat_: but the ui side is done not in angular way | 17:20 |
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| igormarnat_ | sskripnick: kzaitsev_mb so let us add this patch to the etherpad, briefly describe its status and actions required | 17:21 |
| sskripnick | the status is "work in progress" :) | 17:21 |
| kzaitsev_mb | should probably ping kfox1111_away on how to better angularise the thing | 17:21 |
| sskripnick | kzaitsev_mb: oh, thanks | 17:22 |
| sskripnick | btw i'm reading angular manual right now. pretty interesting | 17:22 |
| sskripnick | I almost know how to fix it | 17:22 |
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| docaedo | yeah angular is really powerful once you get the hang of it | 17:23 |
| docaedo | makes some complicated and neat looking stuff really easy to do | 17:23 |
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| docaedo | sounds like we're done with updates? | 17:25 |
| igormarnat_ | Yep | 17:26 |
| igormarnat_ | Anything else in agenda for today? | 17:26 |
| docaedo | #topic Open discussion | 17:26 |
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| docaedo | Just open discussion if anyone wants to discuss something openly :) | 17:26 |
| igormarnat_ | I'm done, nothing more from my side | 17:26 |
| sskripnick | are three any plans for removing django from app-catalog? | 17:27 |
| sskripnick | it seems flask is enough | 17:27 |
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| docaedo | I believe the intention is to keep it for the sake of eventually sharing a bunch of core code between the community app catalog web site and the app catalog horizon plugin | 17:28 |
| docaedo | so much of the presentation layer will be the exact same code between the two | 17:28 |
| docaedo | then updates/changes/improvements happen against one code base | 17:28 |
| igormarnat_ | Ok, guys, I have to go. TTYL, bye! | 17:28 |
| docaedo | igormarnat_: see ya! | 17:28 |
| igormarnat_ | docaedo: o/ | 17:28 |
| sskripnick | docaedo: oh, i see. will take a look at horizon plugin | 17:29 |
| docaedo | sskripnick: suggest you bring this up on #openstack-app-catalog though, maybe there's something to consider here | 17:29 |
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| docaedo | and it sounds like we're done unless anyone has something else to discuss? I'll wait a minute at least... | 17:30 |
| docaedo | <crickets> | 17:32 |
| docaedo | thanks everyone for coming, talk to you next week! | 17:32 |
| docaedo | #endmeeting | 17:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 23 17:32:22 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2016/app_catalog.2016-06-23-17.01.html | 17:32 |
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| olaph | thanks docaedo ! | 17:32 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ivar-lazzaro hemanthravi igordcard: hi | 18:00 |
| rkukura | hi | 18:00 |
| hemanthravi | hi | 18:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GroupBasedPolicy#June_23rd_2016 | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | as for the standing items, nothing new at my end on the testing and docs | 18:01 |
| ivar-lazzaro | hi | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: anything new on the packaging? | 18:01 |
| rkukura | no update from me | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:02 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #topic NFP impl patches review | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/gbp-network-services-framework | 18:03 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | so the plan was to use today’s meeting to follow up on the review comments on the NFP patches | 18:03 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | the last couple of days some of us tried to do some in-depth review of the patches posted | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i am not sure that all the review comments have been addressed, i dont think they are | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but it was a short time to address them, so its understandable | 18:05 |
| hemanthravi | the comments from the last couple of days and the earlier comments are being addressed, but not done ye | 18:05 |
| hemanthravi | t | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: okay | 18:05 |
| hemanthravi | hoping to have all of these addressed by sat or sun | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | its kind of difficult in gerrit to check the outstanding comments (things which are not ack’ed) | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | this morning i was just trying to locate my own comments | 18:06 |
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| hemanthravi | the team has started acking comments that they have addressed | 18:07 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: one point that came up in an offline discussion was if the “orchestrator” component can be thought of as a agent? | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *an agent | 18:07 |
| hemanthravi | i'll work with them to make sure all the coomments are acked | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: okay | 18:08 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | currently mostly everything in openstack falls in the plugin/service, driver and agent taxonomy classes | 18:08 |
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| hemanthravi | loosely yes in terms of listening to rpcs and handling them, but much richer in terms of functionality implemented | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so it might be easier to explain the NFP orchestrator as an NFP orchestrator “agent” | 18:09 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: this might be mostly just renaming what the process is called | 18:09 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | other than that, to the extent i reviewed, all my comments are mostly in | 18:11 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | does anyone else have any high level concerns or issues that would like to bring up (or get clarfication from hemanthravi and songole)? | 18:11 |
| hemanthravi | SumitNaiksatam: will check if making it an agent will have other requirements in terms of respond to status etc | 18:12 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: okay, the way i understood you were using the same process framework for the orchestrator as that of the proxy-agent, right? | 18:12 |
| hemanthravi | yes | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: hence i was hoping this would just be a terminology change | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: so far are there any review comments that cannot be addressed? | 18:14 |
| hemanthravi | there might be a few, that we'll have to defer since they the change might require lot more testing | 18:15 |
| hemanthravi | will point these out and see if we can log bugs against those and address them later | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: can we discuss those now? | 18:15 |
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| hemanthravi | don't have the list now, will sync up and send out an e-mail | 18:16 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: okay, i would like to know at the earliest what these are, and check if they are negotiable | 18:16 |
| hemanthravi | ok | 18:17 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ivar-lazzaro igordcard: any thoughts/comments/concerns on the NFP series of patches? | 18:18 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | Nothing new from my last comments, I'll get back to them and see if they have been addressed | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: okay sure | 18:19 |
| ivar-lazzaro | Everything else seems to be pretty much in line with the spec | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: okay | 18:19 |
| hemanthravi | ivar-lazzaro: i think the comments have been responded to, one item pending is duplication of code | 18:20 |
| rkukura | I wasn’t able to make the review sessions, so I’ll take a look as I get the chance, but I would not wait for me to be a primary reviewer on these. | 18:20 |
| hemanthravi | in the configurator and this is being addressed | 18:20 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: perhaps, to speed up the process, it might be good if the author’s can reach out to the reviewers and let them that they comments that particular reviewer had posted have been addressed | 18:20 |
| hemanthravi | ok, will do | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:20 |
| ivar-lazzaro | yeah code duplication is pretty critical, it was a huge amount of code | 18:20 |
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| hemanthravi | that will be addressed | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: this is strictly as a courtesy, and to help speed up the process | 18:21 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: and not meant to take the discussion offline, review comments and responses should still be in gerrit | 18:22 |
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| hemanthravi | yes, will use the e-mail in addtion to make it easier | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: great thanks | 18:22 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: is there anything more you want to discuss on this topic today? | 18:23 |
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| hemanthravi | no, lot of comments to address and working on addressing them at the earliest | 18:24 |
| hemanthravi | gate tests are being enhanced based on the comments | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: sure, thanks | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: yeah that should be top priority | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | alright, i dont have anything else for today | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so if there is nothing else to discuss, we can wrap it up for today? | 18:25 |
| hemanthravi | posted a backport of ivar's fix in liberty https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331385/ | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: yes noticed that, had added a comment yesterday | 18:25 |
| hemanthravi | reposted, can you check if it's ok now | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: i think it looks good now | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | alright, thanks all! | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye | 18:26 |
| hemanthravi | bye | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 18:26 |
| songole | bye | 18:26 |
| ivar-lazzaro | bye | 18:26 |
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| shamail | #startmeeting auc | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 23 19:01:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is shamail. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: auc)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'auc' | 19:01 |
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| shamail | Hi everyone. Who is here for the AUC recognition WG meeting? | 19:01 |
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| MeganR | o/ | 19:01 |
| shamail | Hi MeganR! | 19:01 |
| shamail | Blah, notice didn’t make it out. :[ | 19:02 |
| MeganR | Hi - oh, oops | 19:02 |
| shamail | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/AUCRecognition#Meeting_Information | 19:02 |
| maishsk | o/ | 19:02 |
| shamail | Hi maishsk | 19:02 |
| shamail | #chair maishsk | 19:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: maishsk shamail | 19:02 |
| maishsk | Hi Shamail | 19:02 |
| MeganR | Hi maishsk | 19:03 |
| maishsk | Hi MeganR | 19:03 |
| shamail | ping maishk MeganR dabukalam dc_mattj | 19:03 |
| shamail | Let’s wait a couple of minutes and then we will get going | 19:03 |
| MeganR | sure - going to look at the doc Tom sent | 19:04 |
| MeganR | *have been meaning to all day | 19:04 |
| shamail | Yeah, it’s thorough | 19:04 |
| shamail | I have some feedback that I will be sending tonight | 19:04 |
| shamail | maishsk: I am forwarding you the document | 19:05 |
| shamail | We can share the link/draft in the meeting once we have a little more discussion | 19:05 |
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| shamail | maishsk: sent. | 19:06 |
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| shamail | Okay, let’s get started | 19:06 |
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| shamail | #topic Review milestone-4 etherpad | 19:06 |
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| shamail | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/uc-recog-metrics | 19:06 |
| shamail | I think we are good on most of these items | 19:07 |
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| shamail | I had taken an action to send an email to user-committee and operators to get a broader community perspective but I didn’t get to it yet | 19:07 |
| shamail | I will do that tonight/early tomorrow so please look out for it | 19:07 |
| MeganR | ok | 19:08 |
| shamail | #action shamail to send summary of milestone-4 etherpad on mailing lists for discussion | 19:08 |
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| shamail | No other action items on this etherpad from my end, anyone else want to highlight anything? | 19:08 |
| shamail | Moving on ;) | 19:09 |
| shamail | #topic Update on AskOpenStack metrics (maishk) | 19:09 |
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| shamail | maishsk: You had taken the action to think more about how we could track AskOpenStack w/o granting a long-term AUC entitlement | 19:09 |
| maishsk | So I was looking and thinking that we have perhaps a pickle | 19:10 |
| maishsk | So there is a script to get active moderators | 19:10 |
| maishsk | #link https://github.com/openstack/uc-recognition/blob/master/tools/get_active_moderator.py | 19:10 |
| maishsk | But I dont think that this info can be measured on a periodical basis | 19:11 |
| shamail | Ah nice | 19:11 |
| shamail | I just quickly looked through it and it does seem to associate some level of activity | 19:11 |
| shamail | Basically it is saying that the user has X karma and has been “last seen” (e.g. active) in the past 180 days | 19:12 |
| maishsk | So from what I undertstand Karma is activity | 19:12 |
| shamail | look at lines 64 - 70 | 19:12 |
| maishsk | ths has nothing to do with moderation - in the usual sense of the word with forums | 19:12 |
| shamail | right | 19:13 |
| shamail | moderation means responding | 19:13 |
| maishsk | But karma is cummulative | 19:13 |
| shamail | in this sense | 19:13 |
| shamail | exactly | 19:13 |
| shamail | That is the one existing loop hole | 19:13 |
| maishsk | So for example someone has 1000 karma and has been active for the last six months | 19:13 |
| shamail | so a person would have to put in the effort to get past the Karma threshold but, once that is done, they would only have to answer 1 question and they would qualify | 19:13 |
| shamail | which is a loop hole | 19:13 |
| maishsk | Exactly | 19:13 |
| shamail | We can ask FifieldT about possible solutions and find out if there is a way to track Karma activity in a given window | 19:14 |
| maishsk | So if we could measure the number of points that a user accumulated over the last 6 months | 19:14 |
| MeganR | well, except that they have to do a fair amount to reach that level - right? | 19:14 |
| maishsk | and set a minimum threshold | 19:14 |
| maishsk | MeganR: correct | 19:15 |
| shamail | Our criteria shouldnt be absolute (e.g. X > karma, Y < days) but relative (Range: Y days, obtained karma: X) | 19:15 |
| maishsk | but once they are there - they dont have to be active any more | 19:15 |
| maishsk | or barely active | 19:15 |
| shamail | obtained Karma > X | 19:15 |
| shamail | It’s a one-time effort MeganR, afterwards they can renew with almost negligible activity | 19:16 |
| shamail | We need to find out from Tom if we can extract Karma obtained in a date range | 19:16 |
| MeganR | if we can't extract the data within certain dates - do we need to remove this one? | 19:17 |
| MeganR | at least initially? | 19:17 |
| shamail | maishsk: Would it be fair to say that we can move forward with it initially (since people that have put in the effort to obtain that Karma should be recognized) but would need to find a way to do certain dates by next cycle or else it gets dropped | 19:17 |
| shamail | I think the first cycle for this one doesnt raise the loophole | 19:18 |
| shamail | but going forward it could | 19:18 |
| maishsk | shamail: That sounds like a good plan | 19:18 |
| MeganR | I like that! | 19:18 |
| maishsk | we make the caveat | 19:18 |
| shamail | Let’s recognize but flag as in danger | 19:18 |
| shamail | perfect! Can you capture the proposal in the etherpad under AskOpenStack? | 19:19 |
| shamail | This would complete the final open role in the etherpad | 19:19 |
| shamail | Thanks maishsk! | 19:19 |
| maishsk | Will do | 19:19 |
| shamail | #topic Update on centralized data source proposal by Tom Fifield (MeganR) | 19:20 |
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| MeganR | Awesome! | 19:20 |
| shamail | Have you had a chance to browse the document MeganR or should I summarize? | 19:20 |
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| shamail | Just looking for a summary here, we can provide feedback via email | 19:20 |
| MeganR | I looked it over - really cool | 19:20 |
| maishsk | Had a quick browse over it | 19:21 |
| shamail | I agree | 19:21 |
| shamail | The main objective is to basically get all of the relevant metrics to be included in OpenStack Foundation member profiles. | 19:22 |
| shamail | Which would help us with extraction immensely in the future | 19:22 |
| shamail | Having said that, we should probably plan on using the methods/sources we discussed in milestone-3 for this cycle since they believe they won’t have it ready before Barcelona. | 19:23 |
| MeganR | I like having centralized information - especially for historical purposes | 19:23 |
| shamail | Would you agree with this approach MeganR? | 19:23 |
| MeganR | +1 | 19:23 |
| shamail | MeganR: +1, history is good | 19:23 |
| shamail | MeganR: once I send the email to the mailing lists, could you share the specific metrics with Tom and Jimmy? | 19:24 |
| maishsk | What exactly are the specific metrics ? | 19:24 |
| shamail | I think in their document they have captured the sources so far but don’t expand on what are the qualifying metrics… They would need to include that information too in order to make decision on AUC eligibility | 19:25 |
| MeganR | you beat me to it - I was just about to ask :) | 19:25 |
| MeganR | got it ok, and I was also thinking of the groups that don't currently use IRC | 19:25 |
| shamail | Specific metrics are the items we have in milestone-4 etherpad (e.g. how many WG meetings, how many lines of text, how many articles, etc) | 19:25 |
| shamail | That too MeganR | 19:25 |
| MeganR | got it - will do | 19:26 |
| shamail | So maishsk they mention WG members (role) but don’t specify “what makes someone an active WG member?" (metrics) | 19:26 |
| shamail | We should capture both in the doc | 19:26 |
| maishsk | understood | 19:26 |
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| shamail | They might come back and say that is out of scope (analysis is done by UC rather than automated) but it can’t hurt to mention the criteria to determine if its feasible to automate eligibility as well | 19:27 |
| shamail | MeganR, anything else on this topic? | 19:28 |
| MeganR | nope | 19:28 |
| shamail | When you reply can you please add maishsk to the email thread as well? | 19:28 |
| maishsk | Why would they say that is out of scope ? | 19:28 |
| MeganR | yes - can you post your email, so I have it at hand? | 19:29 |
| MeganR | *maishsk - can you post your email? | 19:29 |
| maishsk | just sent it to in private | 19:29 |
| MeganR | ty | 19:29 |
| maishsk | np | 19:29 |
| shamail | maishsk: They are trying to build a centralized data source for us to use. They might say using that data source for decision-making is up to us. | 19:29 |
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| shamail | The scope of the document is not to automated AUC eligbility checks but rather just provide a central data source for the process | 19:30 |
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| shamail | thats the only reason I could see it being out of scope but would be happy if its in scope! | 19:30 |
| shamail | #action MeganR will share eligibility criteria with Tom and Jimmy based on email to UC | 19:31 |
| shamail | #topic Open | 19:32 |
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| maishsk | So just to clarify the doc is to say we want a place to store data - how it is collected - and what the thresholds are - not interesting. | 19:32 |
| maishsk | to put it bluntly :) | 19:33 |
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| shamail | Makes sense | 19:34 |
| maishsk | ok | 19:34 |
| shamail | I am going to work with Tom F. to see if we can run a prelimenary count of AUC based on our criteria so far… I hope to be able to have that info to share next week | 19:34 |
| MeganR | that would be great | 19:35 |
| shamail | Tom had sent an email last week to ask whether he can run the numbers, so he just needs criteria… I will also try to help with sources that are not automated | 19:35 |
| shamail | #action Goal: create prelimenary count of AUCs for next meeting | 19:36 |
| shamail | We can then revisit our criteria to adjust if the pool is too big or too small | 19:36 |
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| MeganR | do we have any idea of what would be too big? | 19:36 |
| shamail | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 19:37 |
| shamail | I would defer that to the UC since they would know the cost implications | 19:37 |
| MeganR | well, that answers that! :) | 19:37 |
| shamail | We haven’t been told anything about benefits, etc | 19:37 |
| MeganR | ok | 19:37 |
| maishsk | one sec - cost implications? | 19:38 |
| shamail | maishsk: I mean like if they are considering free passes or nifty badges etc (just as examples) | 19:38 |
| shamail | then the number of AUCs would have a cost associated with it | 19:38 |
| maishsk | Has there been any discussion about benefits / rights etc . ? | 19:39 |
| shamail | Things like voting rights in UC, etc. won’t have a cost but other items might (even if nominal on an individual basis) and an estimate would help the foundation with budgeting | 19:39 |
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| shamail | Not as far as I know (beyond UC voting right)… The charter that the UC put together still has that section as ‘pending' | 19:40 |
| shamail | We can ask emagana or jproulx | 19:41 |
| maishsk | I know that is not part of the charter of this group | 19:41 |
| emagana | hi there! | 19:41 |
| emagana | What's the question? | 19:41 |
| shamail | Hi emagana! | 19:41 |
| shamail | The question: “maishsk: Has there been any discussion about benefits / rights etc . ?" | 19:41 |
| maishsk | but I would hope that would mean either immediate ATC status (or at the bare miminimum eligibility to vote in the TC elections) | 19:42 |
| shamail | I mentioned that the number of AUCs might have cost implications and we started discussing this topic | 19:42 |
| emagana | the straight forward one on being AUC is the free access to the conference and be recognized | 19:42 |
| emagana | once we have voting in place for UC, you will be able to vote | 19:42 |
| shamail | passes are being considered? | 19:42 |
| emagana | I can't think of anything else at this moment | 19:42 |
| shamail | I dont recall if I saw that section filled out in the charter | 19:42 |
| maishsk | But I thought they were looking for removing the free pass - or at least raising the bar for ATC ? | 19:43 |
| emagana | passes will be granted, yes! | 19:43 |
| shamail | nice | 19:43 |
| MeganR | great | 19:43 |
| maishsk | :) | 19:43 |
| emagana | again, we need to run numbers, if we end up with 4000 passes obviously it will not work. | 19:43 |
| shamail | So the size of AUC will definitely have a cost implication | 19:43 |
| shamail | exactly emagana | 19:43 |
| emagana | working with the Foundation on the numbers | 19:43 |
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| shamail | We hope to be able to have an early count of AUCs based on criteria by next week or so emagana | 19:44 |
| emagana | shamail: excellent. Reach out to me directly | 19:44 |
| shamail | We’ll make sure you have that data | 19:44 |
| shamail | Sounds good | 19:44 |
| emagana | I want to present the numbers ASAP | 19:44 |
| shamail | I know, sorry for the delay | 19:44 |
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| shamail | maishsk: They are raising the bar I believe but AUC is a different program from a different budget pool. I am sure criteria will change over time for us as well but this is year 1. :) | 19:45 |
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| maishsk | has that been officially verbalized - I do not recall seeing anything about that | 19:46 |
| shamail | Not that I am aware of maishsk… I would suggest asking on the mailing list or reaching out to ttx for confirmation | 19:46 |
| shamail | Or were you asking about the AUC passes? | 19:46 |
| shamail | my first answer was for ATC pass eligibility | 19:47 |
| maishsk | I was asking about ATC | 19:47 |
| maishsk | thanks | 19:47 |
| shamail | Okay :) | 19:47 |
| shamail | Thanks emagana, maishsk, and MeganR | 19:47 |
| emagana | cool! | 19:48 |
| MeganR | yw - thanks for keeping us on task! | 19:48 |
| shamail | Have a great day | 19:48 |
| shamail | #endmeeting | 19:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 23 19:48:33 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/auc/2016/auc.2016-06-23-19.01.html | 19:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/auc/2016/auc.2016-06-23-19.01.txt | 19:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/auc/2016/auc.2016-06-23-19.01.log.html | 19:48 |
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