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devkulkarni#startmeeting Solum Team Meeting17:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Nov 10 17:00:05 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)"17:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting'17:00
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devkulkarni#topic Roll Call17:00
devkulkarniDevdatta Kulkarni17:00
*** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)"17:00
datsun180bEd Cranford17:00
devkulkarniHi datsun180b17:00
datsun180bhowdy17:00
devkulkarnihopefully folks will join in a few minutes17:00
james_lijames li17:01
devkulkarnihey james17:01
james_liHi devkulkarni datsun180b17:01
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muralia1o/17:01
devkulkarnihi muralia117:01
muralia1hi17:02
devkulkarniwe have james_li and datsun180b as well17:02
devkulkarnihere is the agenda for today's meeting17:02
devkulkarni#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2015-11-03_1700_UTC17:02
devkulkarniwhile we wait for a few minutes to see if other folks are going to join us today, please check it out17:03
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devkulkarnihi vijendar, pt_1517:03
vijendarHi devkulkarni17:04
vijendarHi All17:04
pt_15devkulkarni: hi!17:04
devkulkarnialright, we have a quorum.17:04
devkulkarnithanks pt_15, vijendar, muralia1, datsun180b for joining in for today's meeting17:04
devkulkarnilets begin17:04
devkulkarnifor those who just came in, here is the agenda for today17:04
devkulkarni#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2015-11-03_1700_UTC17:05
devkulkarni#topic Announcements17:05
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devkulkarniI have one announcement today17:05
devkulkarni#success Logs resource moved over from assembly to workflow. This was the last remaining thing. This completes the implementation of the new api resources.17:05
openstackstatusdevkulkarni: Added success to Success page17:05
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datsun180bThat's great news17:06
james_licool17:06
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muralia1nice.17:06
devkulkarnithis is indeed a great achievement for our team17:06
devkulkarnithanks to everyone who pitched in with either the spec, the implementation, the reviews17:06
muralia1is this the main thing we had for the liberty release?17:07
devkulkarniit was a long road, but we made it17:07
devkulkarnimuralia1: this was one of the main things we had targeted for liberty17:07
muralia1ok17:07
devkulkarnithere were couple of others, which we have not been able to finish17:07
devkulkarniwe got started on them17:07
devkulkarniso we will just continue them in the next release17:07
devkulkarniI have a bullet point today to discuss about Mitaka priorities17:08
devkulkarniwe can delve into this more when we get there17:08
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muralia1are we going to cut a liberty release?17:09
devkulkarnimuralia1: yes17:09
devkulkarnilet me jump ahead to those topics actually since we are talking about releases17:09
muralia1saw thing review recently. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242068/17:09
devkulkarnioh!17:09
devkulkarniI did not see that17:09
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devkulkarnithanks for the pointer muralia117:10
devkulkarnihi adrian_otto17:10
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devkulkarniwe just got started few minutes back17:10
muralia1adrian_otto can give us some context into this patch. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242068/17:10
adrian_ottoI will miss our team meeting next week due to a speaking engagement17:10
muralia1we just discussed this in the magnum meeting17:10
devkulkarniadrian_otto: ok, thanks for letting us know17:10
devkulkarnimuralia1: ok, cool17:11
adrian_ottoto address https://review.openstack.org/242068 all we nee to do is tag a final release for liberty, and submit a follow-up patch that effectively reverses the 242068 one.17:11
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devkulkarniadrian_otto: I see17:12
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devkulkarniadrian_otto: I will do that this week for solum17:12
devkulkarniI have been keeping track of the new changes to release process17:13
adrian_ottoif you need any guidance, let me know. I'm happy to lend a hand with that.17:13
devkulkarniadrian_otto: sure, that sounds good. will ping you17:13
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devkulkarniI submitted following yesterday17:13
devkulkarni#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243295/17:13
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adrian_ottoit might also be a good idea to get input from ttx as well, just to be sure what we do is meeting expectations.17:13
devkulkarni#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243301/17:13
devkulkarnisure, will check with ttx as well17:14
devkulkarniI was planning to reach out to dhellmann today wrt to the release notes related patches ^^17:14
adrian_ottoI actually have backported code in magnum that needs to be released. I'm not sure if you have bug fixes for solum that need to be included for liberty.17:14
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devkulkarniI was thinking, since we have not yet cut liberty, is this required?17:15
devkulkarnithe current state of the repositories would be our liberty, no?17:16
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adrian_ottoyou just pick a release, branch it as stable/liberty,and then tag a release from that, and update openstack/releases/deliverables/liberty/solum.yaml with the associated git hash17:17
adrian_ottoI don't think there is any more to it.17:17
devkulkarniok, that sounds straightforward17:17
adrian_ottobut let me know what ttx says.17:17
devkulkarnisure, sounds good17:17
devkulkarniok, so on the topic of releases I have couple more points17:18
devkulkarnirecently dhellmann has sent several emails to openstack-dev mailing list about changes to the release process17:18
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devkulkarnithe main gist of those is the following17:18
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devkulkarnithere is a new tool, called 'Reno' which the release team has introduced17:19
devkulkarnithis allows creating release notes directly from the source repository (we have to specify yaml files with the notes)17:19
devkulkarnithe ask from the release team is17:19
devkulkarniwe submit a patch to include reno in our repo (only one repo is fine; so I have included the reno setup in solum and not python-solumclient)17:20
devkulkarniand second, we submit a patch to our project-config setup so that the release notes will be created as part of a gate job17:20
devkulkarnithe two patches for solum are:17:21
devkulkarnihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/243295/17:21
devkulkarnihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/243301/17:21
adrian_ottooh, cool17:21
devkulkarniI don't yet know if those patches are correct/complete17:21
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devkulkarnitoday I am planning to pick dhellmann17:21
devkulkarnipick dhellmann's brain to understand more about this process17:21
devkulkarnialso get his feedback on the above patches17:22
devkulkarnithe main thing which I have not yet understood is, how do we relate the release notes to the releases17:22
devkulkarniso that is regarding the changes to the release process17:23
muralia1ok. let me know once you've made all changes. will review them17:23
devkulkarnimuralia1: sure, will do17:23
devkulkarnione final thing regarding releases is17:23
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devkulkarnia question that I have for you adrian_otto.. what is the process of uploading to pypi?17:23
adrian_ottowhere do the release notes show up when using reno?17:23
devkulkarniadrian_otto: the gate job publishes them to online documentation using the sphinx plugin17:24
adrian_ottodevkulkarni: there is a pypi job in the gate already. When you tag a release it is uploaded to pypi automatically for you.17:24
devkulkarniactually, the gate job is for that purpose17:24
devkulkarniadrian_otto: oh !! nice17:24
adrian_ottowe needed to set up a trust between pypi and openstack-ci to get that working, but it did work last time I tagged a solum release.17:24
devkulkarniI see. Hopefully that will work this time as well17:25
devkulkarnicool17:25
devkulkarniadrian_otto: is there anything more that I should be thinking about regarding releases?17:25
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devkulkarnimy plan is to tag a release this week17:26
devkulkarnialso get the reno setup merged17:26
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adrian_ottoyou will need a GPG key to sign the tag17:27
devkulkarnioh ok17:27
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adrian_ottomordred helped me figure that one out. At the time I needed to make one we did not have a written guide that explained how to do it.17:28
adrian_ottoperhaps we have one now17:28
devkulkarniok. thanks for the heads up. will ping you if I run into issues17:28
adrian_ottook17:29
devkulkarnialright. I feel excited that we will have release with the new api resources merged17:29
devkulkarninext one for today are patches to review17:30
devkulkarni#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/solum+status:open,n,z17:30
devkulkarni#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/python-solumclient+status:open,n,z17:30
devkulkarniwhenever you get a chance, please take a look at the open patches17:30
devkulkarniI would like to merge the cli patches before tagging the release17:31
devkulkarnivijendar: I have added comment to one of your cli patches17:31
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vijendardevkulkarni: sure. will take a look17:31
devkulkarnihopefully you will be able to address the comment soon17:32
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devkulkarnipt_15: I have started looking at your trigger controller refactoring patch17:32
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devkulkarnijames_li, datsun180b: would you mind taking a look at pt_15's patch17:33
james_lisure17:33
datsun180bi can look17:33
devkulkarniif you have any feedback on the unit tests that would be helpful17:33
devkulkarnithanks james_li, datsun180b17:33
devkulkarnidatsun180b: I have one more request for you17:33
devkulkarnimind looking at venkatamahesh's patch for devstack plugin change?17:34
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datsun180bthe one that removes slugtester?17:34
devkulkarnithis one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236212/17:34
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devkulkarnibasically, this changes our devstack setup to work in the new plugin model of devstack world17:35
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datsun180bI'm not up to date on that plugin model17:35
devkulkarniah, ok17:35
devkulkarninm then17:35
devkulkarniwe need this patch merged soon17:35
datsun180bi'll do what i can17:36
devkulkarniand we need to follow this up with another patch to project-config17:36
devkulkarniwhich will change our devstack gate setup to use the plugin model17:36
devkulkarnibasically, very soon (in few more weeks), the devstack gate will stop working with our current setup17:36
devkulkarnithe openstack-infra team had announced this before the summit17:37
datsun180bi remember hearing about that17:37
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devkulkarniso this one is a top priority for us17:37
devkulkarnijames_li: has designate already converted over to use plugin model in the devstack gate?17:37
devkulkarnidatsun180b: yep17:37
pt_15devkulkarni: ok, great, thanks :)17:38
james_lidevkulkarni: no17:38
james_lias far as I know17:38
devkulkarnijames_li: are you guys planning on doing it anytime soon?17:38
james_lino idea about that17:39
devkulkarnihmm.. ok17:39
devkulkarnilet me know if you find it out. will be nice to have another team which is also working on the transition17:39
devkulkarniok17:39
devkulkarnithe next one on the agenda is:17:40
devkulkarniMitaka Roadmap discussion17:40
devkulkarni#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/HighLevelRoadmap#Milestone:_Mitaka17:40
devkulkarniso, I looked through our roadmap for liberty and moved over items which we have not yet completed to Mitaka17:41
james_lidevkulkarni: yeah17:41
devkulkarniwhat do you all feel about the identified items?17:41
devkulkarnisome of the items we have already started17:42
devkulkarnithings like: Non-destructive app updates (app keeps same IP across successive app deployments)17:42
devkulkarniConvert bash scripts to python for more reliability and easier debugging (tech debt reduction)17:42
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devkulkarniwill be nice to get these completed in this cycle17:43
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james_lidevkulkarni: so you heard from people in the summit that the main missing feature for solum is the micro-service support17:44
devkulkarniany feature that you think we should specifically target for this cycle?17:44
devkulkarnijames_li: good point. we should add that. yes, that was what I took away from the summit17:44
vijendardevananda: I was about to ask about that (micro-serivice support) as well17:44
vijendardevkulkarni: ^^17:45
james_lido we want to do anything towards that in this cycle?17:45
devkulkarnivijendar: yep17:45
devkulkarnijames_li: yes, I think we should17:45
devkulkarnijames_li, vijendar: thanks for bringing that up. I had missed it. let me update the milestone list17:45
vijendardevkulkarni: thanks17:46
james_licool17:46
devkulkarniadded it17:46
devkulkarnigood call james_li, vijendar17:46
devkulkarninote that the list is not in priority order17:47
devkulkarnithose are all the things we would like to do in this cycle17:47
james_livery nice!17:47
devkulkarniare there any other items for review/discussion?17:48
james_liabout the hack day?17:48
devkulkarnijames_li: yes, was about to come to that17:48
devkulkarni#topic Open Discussion17:49
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devkulkarniLast week we discussed about holding a virtual hackday for Solum17:49
devkulkarniI had reached out to some of you about possibility of holding it on November 18th17:49
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devkulkarniare folks still interested in it?17:50
devkulkarnibasically, what I was thinking17:50
devkulkarniwe could go through the bug list, which I have tagged recently17:50
devkulkarniand triage them17:50
james_liI will attend17:50
devkulkarnialso, exercise the new functionality17:51
devkulkarnijames_li: great17:51
devkulkarnijames_li: I will be there too17:51
muralia1dev, i might not be available after all. i've got some other thing to wrap up before i take time off for thanksgiving17:51
devkulkarnimuralia1: sure, no worries17:51
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devkulkarnivijendar, pt_15: I think you were expressed interest as well, right?17:52
devkulkarnis/were/had/17:52
vijendardevkulkarni: yes. I am in17:52
pt_15devkulkarni: yes, definitely17:52
devkulkarnicool17:53
devkulkarnithanks vijendar, pt_1517:53
devkulkarnithat will make at least 4 of us17:53
devkulkarniI will setup an etherpad for us for the event17:54
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devkulkarniNovember 18th is next Wednesday17:54
devkulkarniso we can use the Tuesday meeting to finalize the details about the hackday17:54
devkulkarniallocate bugs to triage, try out new functionality, etc.17:55
devkulkarnione last point for today17:55
devkulkarni2) Solum-provenance (https://github.com/devdattakulkarni/solum-provenance)17:55
devkulkarniI have been keeping track of the git shas of all the dependent services that solum depends on17:55
devkulkarniI started doing this because many times one of the services may change something causing solum to break (in the devstack setup)17:56
devkulkarniyou can use this repo in two ways17:56
devkulkarniif in your devstack setup, something fails in some service. you can check the commit of the failing service for which solum is known to work from the above repo17:57
devkulkarnirevert that service to that commit and then re-try17:57
devkulkarnisecond way you can use this repo is send a pr to it with17:58
devkulkarnithe commits of the services which worked for you17:58
vijendardevkulkarni:  this helps in going back to last working devstack state. correct?17:58
devkulkarniyes17:58
devkulkarnithat is correct vijendar17:58
vijendardevkulkarni: nice17:59
devkulkarnias an evidence of usefulness of this17:59
devkulkarnirecently devstack merged a change to add zookeeper17:59
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devkulkarnifor some reason this is not working for us17:59
devkulkarniso I went to above repo, and reverted devstack to the commit for which we know solum works17:59
devkulkarniand that allowed me to get back to a working devstack setup18:00
devkulkarnialright, we are at the end of today's meeting18:00
devkulkarnithanks everyone for joining today18:00
devkulkarnisee you in solum channel18:00
devkulkarni#endmeeting18:00
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briancurtin#startmeeting python-openstacksdk19:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Nov 10 19:00:37 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is briancurtin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:00
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terrylhoweo/19:00
briancurtinetoews: you around?19:01
etoewso/19:01
briancurtinas etoews mentioned on the email, it would be nice to figure out what changes currently in gerrit we need to be focused on. there’s a bunch on there that aren’t tied to launchpad issues19:02
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briancurtinand since i think we have a nice list of them on launchpad isolated from everything else with the 1.0 milestone, it’d probably be nice to match things up to ot19:02
briancurtin*to it19:02
etoewsthe patch set queue needs a thorough scrubbing19:03
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etoewsstart from the bottom?19:04
briancurtinbefore we dig in, terrylhowe anything you want to cover before this?19:04
etoewsya. this should be the last thing we do as it will probably eat up all the time.19:05
terrylhowenot really, just trying to rebase the ksa patch this morning between everything19:05
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terrylhoweI got everything working this morning19:05
briancurtini don’t have anything to add either, just working through LP, so getting gerrit cleaned up is good19:05
etoewscan you give this a look terrylhowe ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241446/19:05
briancurtinhowever, before we start, I’m guessing we probably just want to be tying changes to LP, and moving things to workflow-1 that we don’t want to be messing with…right?19:06
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etoewsi'm also okay with clicking the abandon button :)19:07
terrylhoweI’m pretty much fine with clean up of examples, I’m just not in the mood to merge anything that might mess up ksa because I haven’t had any time lately19:07
briancurtinyeah I’m just doing some quick abandons right now on my own19:07
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terrylhowealthough examples shouldn’t be messed with for ksa19:07
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terrylhoweI still wonder why our functional tests are failing too19:08
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briancurtinterrylhowe: yeah i was going to stop and look at functional tests as well so we can get those back on track. will probably do that after the meeting19:08
briancurtin#topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190551/19:09
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briancurtinadd suspend/resume actions to heat — needs functional tests, but should we just push this off?19:09
briancurtinactually, this change brings up another thing: we have a bunch of places like this where there are ‘actions’ on a resource, but they’re not exposed on the proxy, so they’re not really complete when it comes to the target user (someone we’re not expecting to dive into the resource layer, keep their session around, etc)19:11
terrylhowehmm, good point19:11
etoewsconsidering there hasn't been any updates since the original patch set...yes.19:11
briancurtinin cases like this, i think we should probably just hold off until post-1.0 and make the change more well rounded19:11
briancurtinthere’s probably a lot of these action things that are not totally exposed. i remember a bunch on Server19:12
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etoewsregarding actions...this just merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239253/19:14
briancurtinyeah that was on my todo list to look at19:15
etoewstoo late!19:15
briancurtini pushed this heat suspend/resume to -2/w-119:16
briancurtin#topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195320/19:17
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briancurtinneeds a rebase, could be quick. terrylhowe any thoughts?19:17
terrylhoweanything profile related is going to mess up ksa briancurtin I need to look at it again, but I thought all those methods would just go away19:18
briancurtingood enough. i can abandon it. easy enough to revive if it still ends up being valuable19:19
terrylhoweI mean should we support this notion of all?  I’m not sure.19:19
terrylhoweLeave it up for sure19:20
briancurtinterrylhowe: i’m not sure what you mean on the first message19:20
terrylhowebriancurtin: nevermind, I think these set methods might be valuable.  I just had a note to investigate if we should keep them for some reason19:22
terrylhoweWe were just using them in examples which etoews change will get rid of19:23
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briancurtinon these we could in theory be using them anywhere. i currently have another issue with the set_version not setting the right version to where you get the wrong identity client (or you can’t get v3 at all, can’t remember off the top of my head)19:24
briancurtinthat’s less of a profile issue and more of a service_filter issue, but that too will change from what i can tell in KSA, right?19:24
etoewsso merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241446/ then abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195320/ ?19:25
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briancurtinetoews: i don’t know how those two are related19:25
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briancurtinthe latter is just refactoring a class we at least currently do need19:26
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etoewsjust going off of terry's comment that we were just using them in examples (that are removed in the former)19:27
etoewsbut if they're used more broadly then we'll need them19:27
terrylhowekeep them both, they are both good I think19:27
etoewskeep both what exactly?19:28
etoewsmerge them both?19:28
briancurtinwe agree about the 195320 one still being useful, so let’s shift to the other19:29
briancurtin#topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241446/19:29
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briancurtincurrently +2 from qiming and myself19:29
etoews#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/148726919:29
openstackLaunchpad bug 1487269 in OpenStack SDK "Simplify the examples and make them more specific" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Everett Toews (everett-toews)19:29
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briancurtinterry just sent that one on, so next19:33
briancurtinhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/188452/ is next and is mine, just needs to be refreshed. object_store metadata is currently weird/incomplete/requires working with the resource layer19:34
briancurtinthere’s an LP issue that pushes off custom metadata to 1.1 which is separate19:35
briancurtin#topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212336/19:36
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briancurtin"Fix flavor find interface function” - this might have been fixed in the last round of find changes, i’ll try to take a look at running this after the meeting19:37
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briancurtini’m fairly certain that probably isn’t needed, though19:37
briancurtinhah, just abandoned an object_store upload/download change i had done in august...19:38
briancurtin(we merged the same change a few days ago)19:38
briancurtinand now comes a bunch of path_args related changes, so should probably just talk about that generally first19:39
briancurtin#topics what to do with path_args19:39
terrylhowethey work, but complicated19:40
terrylhowemaybe some brute force approach would be better19:40
briancurtinterrylhowe: i know you’ve been focused on KSA. do you think path_args is next and/or is the change you had done to move them to a function pretty much done or needs more work?19:40
briancurtini still need to look back at it and figure something out. it felt a bit odd from what i remember19:40
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etoewscan we abandon these 2 drive by patch sets? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218175/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218183/19:46
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briancurtinwe could use the code if done right, so maybe better just as workflow-1 and i can comment on the things it needs to be considered complete19:47
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briancurtinif the person never comes back, someone can just take the review over i think19:48
etoewsdoes qiming's patch set overlap? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201983/19:48
briancurtinetoews: mostly, but not completely…but qiming is around and active so actually yeah, can just take his as the route forward19:49
etoewsyes please19:50
terrylhowesounds good19:50
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terrylhowe9 minutes19:51
briancurtinterrylhowe: have you looked at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219840/ in a while?19:51
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terrylhowethat’s all tied in with path args briancurtin19:52
terrylhowehaven’t looked at it in a while19:52
briancurtintrue. overall i like adding something like this does, as clarity around the differences in body values, URI values, header values will be good to have ironed out before we start growing a lot of contributors and more service code19:53
terrylhoweyeh, on its own it is fairly simple19:53
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briancurtin5 min left, anything else to squeeze in?19:56
terrylhowenothing here19:56
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etoewsi think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242641/ is going to require some updates to the example code and docs but i'll comment over there.19:57
briancurtintrue, could use a doc update19:58
briancurtinthanks everyone19:59
briancurtin#endmeeting19:59
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