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PietAre we meeting?17:03
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david-lylePiet: I have it slated for next week, but I could be wrong17:04
Pietk17:04
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david-lyleyeah, should be next week, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/UX17:05
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flaper87#startmeeting Zaqar21:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Sep 15 21:00:48 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Zaqar)"21:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'zaqar'21:00
flaper87#topic Roll Call21:00
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flaper87kgriffs: vkmc malini21:01
flaper87mmh, anyone ?21:02
vkmco/21:02
flaper87vkmc: hey :D21:02
flaper87looks like it'll be a chat between you and me today21:02
kgriffso/21:02
vkmcflaper87, and kgriffs! :D21:02
flaper87there he is21:02
flaper87:D21:02
* kgriffs drinks teh powerade21:02
* kgriffs is ready to rock21:02
flaper87ok, lets do it21:03
flaper87#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Zaqar#Agenda21:03
flaper87#topic Smoke testing planning for RC (kgriffs)21:03
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flaper87actually, wait21:03
flaper87actions21:03
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flaper87#topic review actions from last meeting21:03
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flaper87#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2014/zaqar.2014-09-08-15.00.html21:03
flaper87vkmc To document where API checks should go (API or Storage layer)21:03
vkmcflaper87, already in the review queue21:04
flaper87vkmc: sweet21:04
flaper87do you have a link?21:04
vkmchttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/121424/21:04
vkmcsure thing21:04
flaper87#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121424/21:04
vkmclet me know if the location I chose is ok21:04
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vkmcor if it fits better somewhere else21:04
flaper87sure thing, thanks vkmc21:04
flaper87next action21:05
vkmcnp21:05
flaper87flaper87 to start adding v1.1 to the client21:05
flaper87#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-zaqarclient+branch:master+topic:bp/api-v1,n,z21:05
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flaper87it's all up for review21:05
flaper87ok, lets move on21:05
vkmcyup, I'll review the ones you added earlier tonight21:05
flaper87vkmc: +121:05
flaper87#topic Smoke testing planning for RC (kgriffs)21:05
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flaper87kgriffs: floor is yours21:05
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kgriffsok, so I had put that up there because I wanted to make sure the RC was rock-solid21:06
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kgriffsone thing that doesn't get a lot of testing in pooling21:06
flaper87kgriffs: +121:06
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kgriffsand also keystone middleware, although there shouldn't be a big issue there21:06
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vkmckgriffs, +121:07
flwang1o/ sorry for the late21:07
flaper87I've been meaning to setup pooling in devstack by default21:07
vkmchi flwang1 \o21:07
flwang1hey guys21:07
flaper87I'll try to do that next week21:07
flaper87flwang1: 'sup ?21:07
kgriffshi flwang121:07
flaper87#action flaper87 to make devstack use pools by default21:07
vkmcI have been inspecting the errors in functional testing for pools today21:08
vkmccurrently we are skipping those tests21:08
kgriffsoh21:08
vkmcI also had to add the tests for v1.0, will do that for next week21:08
flaper87vkmc: +1 we need to stop skiping them21:08
* flwang1 is frustrating with nova evacuate + ceph recently 21:08
kgriffsso, let me tell you what I've been up to and we can see if there is any other RC testing we need to get done21:08
* flaper87 listens21:08
kgriffssaturday I started setting up a new testing cluster21:09
kgriffsubuntu 14.0421:09
kgriffsinstead of deb 721:09
kgriffs(since I can now get that at Rackspace)21:09
kgriffsso, I have one load generator, one load balancer running nginx (I didn't want to mess with haproxy right now)21:09
kgriffs2 web heads, although I will probably add 1-2 more21:10
kgriffs1 db box currently running a single redis instance21:10
kgriffsand then I kept the 3-member replica set for mongo because...21:10
kgriffsI needed a pool catalog and redis driver doesn't support that21:10
kgriffsso what I have now21:10
kgriffsis zaqar set up in a pooled configuration21:11
kgriffsI have been hammering it all day with lots of tests with varying load, each test run 5 minutes21:11
kgriffsthe pool only has a single redis node in it right now21:11
kgriffsand I only have one web head active21:11
kgriffsmy plan is to do another round after adding a web head21:11
kgriffs(up to 4)21:12
flaper87all that sounds really good21:12
flaper87Any numbers you can share?21:12
kgriffsat that point I'm thinking redis will saturate and I will add 1-3 more procs to the pool21:12
vkmcsweeet21:13
kgriffsre smoke testing, everything looks great from the server side. Very reliable, although stdev goes high towards the end, no failed requests21:13
kgriffsbut21:13
kgriffsI did have some trouble getting zaqar-bench working since the patch to remove the v1 from the import statement21:13
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flaper87mmmh21:14
flaper87sorry about that. Any clue of what the error was about ?21:14
kgriffscan't remember for sure21:14
flaper87It'd be weird if it's related to that but you know... software21:14
kgriffsbut somebody should go run that with everything latest and see if it is OK. I might have reverted and put the v1 back in, and then I had to hack the claim_id param in python-zaqarclient again21:14
kgriffslet me see21:15
flaper87#link https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/python-zaqarclient/tree/zaqarclient/queues/client.py21:15
kgriffswait21:15
kgriffsI lied21:15
flaper87kgriffs: ^ that's what the client do21:15
flaper87does*21:15
kgriffsI think that might have been a red herring21:15
flaper87oh ok21:15
kgriffsand I did end up removing v1 module21:15
kgriffsbut the claim_id error was still preventing me from deleting claimed messages21:16
flaper87right, that has been taken care of, IIRC21:16
flaper87vkmc: ^21:16
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kgriffsuntil I hacked messages.py in the client lib to accept a claim_id param in __init__21:16
flaper87I think I reviewed/approed your patch21:16
flaper87vkmc: ^21:16
kgriffsat least, as of saturday21:16
flaper87kgriffs: yeah, I +2 on sunday21:16
flaper87IIRC21:16
kgriffsoic21:16
kgriffsgtk21:16
flaper87kgriffs: thanks a lot for working on all that21:17
flaper87really21:17
kgriffsthanks21:17
flaper87it's been really helpful and encouraging21:17
kgriffsoh, I should also mention21:17
flaper87Do you think we can make that server you're using a third-party CI for benches ?21:17
flaper87until we get rally going21:17
kgriffsI added stdev, mean, max, and 99 percentile to zaqar-bench21:17
vkmcflaper87, that one depends in kgriffs patch21:17
vkmcflaper87, I added the comment on Gerrit21:18
flaper87vkmc: oh, mmh.21:18
flaper87vkmc: ok21:18
kgriffsI was going to use Tsung, but it was going to be a real pain to model our scenarious so I thought it would be quicker to keep using zaqar-bench21:18
flaper87I'll take a look again in a bit21:18
kgriffs(for now)21:18
vkmckgriffs -2 it because we didn't know the root cause21:18
kgriffsvkmc: yeah, TBH I haven't had time to dig into that21:18
flaper87vkmc: wait, are we talking about the same patch?21:18
flaper87vkmc: link? :D21:18
kgriffsif someone could investigate, that would be cool21:18
vkmcflaper87, the claims_id one21:18
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vkmc#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120867/21:19
kgriffsflaper87: vkmc's patch depends on my patch that moves deleting queues to the end of the test instead of beginning,21:19
vkmcdepends on21:19
vkmchttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/119900/121:19
flaper87ah ok, but I guess we can make it not depend on yours21:19
kgriffsyeah, it's just that without my patch zaqar-bench hangs everytime21:20
kgriffssuper strange21:20
vkmcsure thing21:20
vkmcyeap ^21:20
flaper87at least we can move that one forward21:20
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flaper87yeah but the gate is not blocked on that, right?21:20
kgriffsno, we don't have a job that runs zaqar-bench do we?21:20
flaper87at least you can pull that one from master and the bench env should work21:20
flaper87without hacking the client21:20
kgriffsright21:20
flaper87kgriffs: not yet, I'd like to add one but I don't think infra will be happy if we load the server :P21:20
flaper87not sure, I should probably ask21:21
vkmcIIRC that bug appeared after kgriffs fix21:21
kgriffsregarding numbers, I will have some graphs soon on the wiki21:21
vkmcwithout kgriffs fix, it just enters a loop21:21
kgriffsbut for now21:21
flaper87vkmc: if you can make your patch not depend on kgriffs's we can approve it today21:21
vkmcflaper87, will do21:21
flaper87we'll investigate the other issue21:21
kgriffskeeping observers steady at 50, but increasing producers21:21
kgriffswe peak at about 5000 messages posted/sec21:21
kgriffsthat is for 1 web head and the CPUs end up at about 80%21:22
flaper87sweet21:22
flaper87sweet sweet sweet21:22
kgriffsredis box is doing like 50%21:22
kgriffs(for one CPU)21:22
kgriffsweb heads are 20 CPUs21:22
flaper87and no fancy configs, right?21:22
kgriffsI don't recall what nginx was (4 workers) but probably around 50% each proc21:22
kgriffsflaper87: I didn't spend a ton of time tuning configs. mostly defaults I think.21:23
kgriffsbut I will post them and you can see21:23
flaper87that's even better21:23
flaper87if we're doing good with default, I guess tuning them will help increasing those numbers21:23
kgriffsnah, we need to suck more21:23
kgriffs;)21:24
flaper87:P21:24
flaper87ROFL21:24
flaper87ok cool21:24
flaper87again, kgriffs, thanks for all that work.21:24
kgriffssure21:24
flaper87if there are no more questions, lets move on21:24
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flaper87#topic Zaqar client21:24
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kgriffsbtw, it takes forever to run these, but I'll try to trickle out the results as much as possible21:25
vkmcthanks kgriffs :D21:25
kgriffsyw21:25
kgriffs:D21:25
* vkmc not so sad panda21:25
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flaper87so, very quick. I don't mean to put any preassure on anyone but we need to release the client before the 18th21:25
flaper87so...21:25
flaper87#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-zaqarclient,n,z21:25
flaper87also, I'm working on this:21:25
flaper87#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120437/321:25
flaper87if you guys want to take a look it'd be cool21:26
flaper87(especially malini)21:26
flwang1I will review them21:26
flaper87I'll let her know21:26
flaper87I think all v1.1 patches are up21:26
flaper87I also fixed the functional tests21:26
flaper87and other things that I found on my way21:26
flaper87if there's anything missing please, by all means, don't tell me21:27
flaper87:P21:27
flaper87jokes apart, fix it21:27
flaper87now seriously, let me know :)21:27
flaper87I'll happily work on that21:27
flaper87any questions? otherwise let's move on21:27
flaper87cool21:28
flaper87#topic What had to be said has been said, I hope21:28
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flaper87well, you know. 2 weeks, 1 thread and a half, lots of emails, tons of comments. 2 meetings, lot of noise and mixed emotions21:28
flaper87if something hasn't been said, I believe it's already becoming quite late. that said, anything could happen.21:29
flaper87Our third, and last, meeting is tomorrow. 20 UTC21:29
flwang1will it be the final decision?21:29
flaper87Our time during the meeting will be, AFAIK, dedicated to vote21:29
flaper87flwang1: yes21:29
flaper87no more 3h discussions21:29
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flaper87few comments and then vote21:29
flaper87whatever happens, I'm very proud of what we've accomplished and more importantly we'll keep doing it21:30
flaper87so, thank you all and lets keep up the amazing work21:30
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flwang1my feeling is most like awaiting trial21:30
flaper87LOOOOOL21:30
vkmc+1 flwang121:30
flaper87yeah, pretty much that21:30
vkmcI feel the same way21:31
flwang1I mean I can't control my fate21:31
flaper87you can add to that a few head bangs on the desk21:31
flaper87flwang1: that sounds, you can't trust the system21:31
flaper87:P21:31
flaper87anyway... questions? thoughts? etc? move on?21:31
flwang1flaper87: you know what I mean, man21:31
flaper87flwang1: I do know ;)21:31
vkmcbut hey, questions regarding the design or the tools used in Zaqar has been replied21:31
kgriffsidk if it will make any difference, but I'll try to publish another round of perf test results before tomorrow21:32
flwang1i assume there is no appeal :)21:32
vkmcand the team did the best to clear things up21:32
vkmc+1 kgriffs21:32
flaper87kgriffs: I think it's important, yes.21:32
kgriffskk21:32
flwang1kgriffs: thanks for your effort, it's awesome21:32
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kgriffsthanks man21:33
* flaper87 gives kgriffs a truck full of pop-tarts21:33
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* flaper87 just burried kgriffs21:33
flaper87muahahahaha21:33
vkmc:)21:33
* kgriffs puts in pantry for the zombie apocalypse21:33
flaper87LOL21:33
* kgriffs everyone's invited to his house21:33
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flaper87the pop-tart-zombie apocalypse21:34
kgriffsit will be scary. and delicious21:34
flaper87ok, anything else?21:34
flaper87ROFL21:34
flaper87#topic Summit sessions submission21:34
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flaper87ok, heads up... again :)21:34
flaper87#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-zaqar-summit-topics21:34
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flaper87put whatever you want to talk about there. There won't be a design session tool this time21:35
flaper87we'll help organizing and prioritizing things ourselves using our own tools21:35
flaper87I figured it'd be better to stick with the already existing etherpad so put things in that link21:35
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flaper87We'll start discussing those sessions in our meetings starting next week21:35
kgriffsok21:36
flaper87one of those proposals will be used for the next OPW mentee21:36
flaper87#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OutreachProgramForWomen/Ideas#Coding21:36
flaper87Zaqar has been participating in OPW for the last 2 cycles21:36
flaper87I'm very proud of this and I'm super proud of our mentees21:36
vkmc:D21:36
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flaper87I think we should keep giving back to the community and OPW is a good way to do that21:37
flaper87I've put myself as a mentor but please, if you've an idea and want to mentor do not hesitate to add it21:37
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flaper87WE've got enough good, exiting and hard enough tasks that new mentees can work on21:37
flaper87that's it from me21:38
flaper87questions?21:38
* kgriffs is cool21:38
flaper87#topic Rally21:38
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flaper87we talked with boris-42 last week and he volunteered to host a hangout where he would explain us how Rally works21:39
flaper87internals and whatnot21:39
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flwang1I contacted with him as well21:39
flaper87it'd be cool if we all can participate. What time would work for you ?21:39
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flaper87is 21 UTC good ? (that would be this exact time)21:39
flwang1i was told we just need 20 mins to get a plugin in Rally :)21:39
flaper87flwang1: yeah, it looks easy21:39
flaper87kgriffs: vkmc flwang1 is 21 UTC ok?21:40
flwang1i'm OK21:40
vkmcI'm ok too21:40
flaper87I was thinking on proposing Thursday21:40
vkmcwhen is it?21:40
flwang1but TC hate simple/easy stuff21:40
kgriffslet me see21:40
kgriffsthur at 2100 should work21:41
flaper87sweet, ok.21:41
vkmccool, it works for me too21:41
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flaper87I'll let boris-42 know (unless we woke him up with all this pings)21:41
flaper87Thur, 21 UTC it is21:41
flaper87he said he'd be in PST this week and the next week so, I'm sure he won't be asleep21:42
* kgriffs is going to build an irc-pinger and hide it under flaper87's pillow21:42
flaper87any questions?21:42
* flaper87 doesn't use a pillow21:42
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flaper87ok, I lied21:42
* kgriffs curses! foiled again.21:42
flaper87I just thought that was fun21:42
flaper87:P21:42
* flaper87 has the weirdest sleeping pattern ever21:43
flaper87anyway21:43
flaper87#topic open discussion21:43
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flaper87please, review the client patches21:43
flaper87:P21:43
* flaper87 breaks the ice21:44
vkmcplease review the CLI patches as well21:44
vkmc:p21:44
flaper87... or frozens it again21:44
flaper87:P21:44
flaper87vkmc: +121:44
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vkmcso we have client v1.1 and CLI v1.021:44
flaper87vkmc: well, to be fair that cli works for v1.1 too21:44
flaper87at least it should21:44
flaper87most of it21:44
* flaper87 hopes21:44
flaper87:)21:44
vkmcyeah :)21:44
flaper87cool, that's it, folks21:45
flaper87have a great rest of the day you all!21:45
kgriffsgroovy21:45
kgriffsthanks Mr. Percoco21:45
* flaper87 bows and says some words in a weird language21:45
vkmcthanks Fla, you too!21:45
flaper87#endmeeting21:45
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vkmcand everyone else, cheers o/21:46
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