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| AAzza | flaper87: Hello) | 09:32 |
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| flaper87 | AAzza: hey :) | 09:32 |
| AAzza | I'm finishing another patch, and have some concerns about using jsonutils. I use it whenever it is possible, but in one place for example, i should use plain json + strutils, because jsonutils.loads doesn't accept kwargs to be passed to json.loads | 09:34 |
| prashanthr_ | flaper87: Hello ! :) | 09:34 |
| AAzza | AAzza: soo... I fill it disturbing) | 09:34 |
| AAzza | flaper87: oh, i wrote to myself:) | 09:35 |
| flaper87 | lol | 09:35 |
| flaper87 | mmhh, is that just 1 case? | 09:35 |
| flaper87 | What kwargs do you need to pass? | 09:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/marconi: Synced jsonutils from oslo-incubator https://review.openstack.org/95694 | 09:37 |
| AAzza | flaper87: yes, one place in this patch, cannot pass `parse_int`. it is used in some utils, will find now) | 09:37 |
| flaper87 | prashanthr_: hey :) | 09:37 |
| flaper87 | AAzza: ok, what I'm thinking is. You could use json+strutils in that case then propose a patch to improve jsonutils and then come back and update that one case there | 09:38 |
| AAzza | flaper87: oh, yes, will try it) | 09:40 |
| * AAzza nervous to propose patch to oslo-incubator a little bit | 09:41 | |
| * flaper87 gives AAzza some tea and encourages her to do it | 09:42 | |
| prashanthr_ | flaper87: How u doing ? I had a small doubt. Have you ever added a new requirements into the global requirements list of Openstack ? | 09:43 |
| * AAzza drinking tea | 09:43 | |
| AAzza | flaper87: by the way, did you read my answer to your comment about jsonutils on patch for sqlachemy driver? | 09:44 |
| flaper87 | prashanthr_: yup, I have. What's your doubt? | 09:44 |
| flaper87 | prashanthr_: also, I'm doing great :D you? | 09:44 |
| * flaper87 acts like he did read the comment. In the meantime, he opens the patch and reads it | 09:45 | |
| flaper87 | AAzza: oh, just read it | 09:47 |
| flaper87 | AAzza: safe_encode/safe_decode should take care of the bytes<->object thing | 09:48 |
| AAzza | flaper87: yes, they do, but i cannot use jsonutils.dumps, because it doesn't use safe_encode:) | 09:51 |
| flaper87 | AAzza: o_________0 I swear I saw it before writing my comment... You're right :( | 09:52 |
| flaper87 | mmh, in that case, we should probably let this land as is, contribute to jsonutils and then update our code | 09:52 |
| flaper87 | thoughts? | 09:52 |
| AAzza | flaper87: jsonutils.dumps actually cannot use safe_encode because it then will produce `str` on Python2 and `bytes` on Python3, which underirable behavior. i suppose | 09:53 |
| flaper87 | right | 09:57 |
| flaper87 | I agree. Ok, lets keep this patch as-is | 09:58 |
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| flaper87 | AAzza: I guess we just need to use jsonutils in json_encode and json_decode | 09:59 |
| flaper87 | and we should be good | 09:59 |
| AAzza | flaper87: okey, will update patch:) | 10:00 |
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| flaper87 | AAzza: awesome, I commented on the patch | 10:01 |
| flaper87 | great discussion, keep them coming | 10:01 |
| flaper87 | brb | 10:01 |
| prashanthr_1 | flaper87: Me dng great as well :) Have you ever added a new requirements into the global requirements list of Openstack ? | 10:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nataliia Uvarova proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Fix sqlalchemy storage driver for Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/95504 | 11:00 |
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| alcabrera | good morning, everyone. :) | 13:16 |
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| sriram | morning alcabrera :D | 13:16 |
| flaper87 | morning all | 13:19 |
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| AAzza | alcabrera: morning! | 13:19 |
| alcabrera | sriram, flaper87, AAzza: heya! :D | 13:19 |
| sriram | hey hey hey flaper87,AAzza :) | 13:20 |
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| flaper87 | sriram: 'sup man? How ya' doin ? | 13:22 |
| sriram | flaper87: I'm good :) | 13:22 |
| alcabrera | let's see - I have a certain jsonutils patch to +2~ | 13:27 |
| alcabrera | reviews and all | 13:27 |
| alcabrera | I'm going to go do those before the rest of the day rushes past me. :P | 13:27 |
| alcabrera | AAzza: +2'd :) | 13:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Flavio Percoco proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Rename shards to pool https://review.openstack.org/96463 | 13:29 |
| AAzza | alcabrera: (happy) thanks | 13:31 |
| flaper87 | PUSH ALL THE THINGS, ALEJANDRO IS REVIEWING PATCHES! | 13:31 |
| alcabrera | lol | 13:31 |
| alcabrera | yesssss | 13:32 |
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| alcabrera | good morning, vkmc! :) | 13:34 |
| alcabrera | flaper87: will you be available in about an hour? | 13:35 |
| flaper87 | alcabrera: yup | 13:36 |
| alcabrera | we're having our OPW/GSoC Marconi meeting then, and i'll need your input on amqp-related matters. :) | 13:36 |
| alcabrera | yay! | 13:36 |
| alcabrera | I'm headed out for about an hour. | 13:37 |
| alcabrera | I'll see you all soon. | 13:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Flavio Percoco proposed a change to openstack/python-marconiclient: Initial support for openstack-client https://review.openstack.org/87937 | 13:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/96229 | 13:41 |
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| alcabrera | hey all. Turns out my appointment is tomorrow. :P | 14:21 |
| alcabrera | prashanthr_: hey! | 14:21 |
| prashanthr_ | alcabrera: Hi :) good morning ! | 14:21 |
| alcabrera | AAzza, vkmc, prashanthr_: will you all be free in about 30 minutes to meet about how things are going with your efforts? :) | 14:23 |
| prashanthr_ | alcabrera: Sure. I will be free ! :) | 14:23 |
| AAzza | alcabrera: sure) | 14:23 |
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| alcabrera | awesome! | 14:25 |
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| alcabrera | welp | 14:59 |
| alcabrera | it's that time | 14:59 |
| alcabrera | of the week | 14:59 |
| alcabrera | we'll go in this order, if there are no objections: AAzza, prashanthr_, vkmc | 15:00 |
| alcabrera | thoughts? :) | 15:00 |
| AAzza | alcabrera: agree) | 15:00 |
| prashanthr_ | sure ! | 15:00 |
| alcabrera | alright, let's get started. :D | 15:01 |
| AAzza | so, one of my patches is finishing its review, as alcabrera probably remembers, and the next one I think will be tomorrow | 15:01 |
| AAzza | it is almost done, just some cleanup | 15:02 |
| alcabrera | yeah! | 15:02 |
| alcabrera | thanks for the fixes, AAzza | 15:02 |
| AAzza | it should reduce number of failting tests from 740 til 39 for sqlalchemy driver) | 15:02 |
| alcabrera | and I also just reviewed the oslo-incubator patch | 15:02 |
| alcabrera | oh wow | 15:02 |
| alcabrera | Those numbers make me happy. | 15:02 |
| alcabrera | it's almost enough so that all the errors fit in my terminal scrollback buffer! ;) | 15:02 |
| alcabrera | with the fixes applied, I'll bug flaper87|afk to get it merged in | 15:03 |
| alcabrera | what are you thinking of tackling next, AAzza? | 15:03 |
| AAzza | after that patch, i'm thinking of finishing with small bugs, like iterables problems or smth like that | 15:04 |
| alcabrera | great, sounds good to me. :) | 15:04 |
| alcabrera | anything you'd like to discuss before we move on, AAzza? | 15:04 |
| AAzza | hmm, no) | 15:04 |
| alcabrera | alright, prashanthr_ : how goes redis support? :) | 15:05 |
| prashanthr_ | redis support is going great in my private forked branch | 15:05 |
| prashanthr_ | kinda done with all the controllers needed for v1.0 and v1.1 | 15:05 |
| prashanthr_ | with some minor bugs | 15:05 |
| alcabrera | great! | 15:05 |
| alcabrera | I need you to start submitting patches to gerrit | 15:06 |
| prashanthr_ | i just started with that yest. | 15:06 |
| alcabrera | could you abandon this one: https://review.openstack.org/95667 -- and update this one: https://review.openstack.org/96017? :) | 15:06 |
| prashanthr_ | Sure I will do that :). I wanted to add hiredis to the list | 15:07 |
| alcabrera | thanks! | 15:07 |
| prashanthr_ | but i noticed that the dependancy is not present in the global-requirements of openstack | 15:07 |
| alcabrera | hmmm | 15:07 |
| prashanthr_ | which would cause the jenkins to report failure. | 15:07 |
| alcabrera | oh yeah, good catch | 15:07 |
| alcabrera | I had forgotten to check that | 15:07 |
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| prashanthr_ | so wanted to ask how to go about the process ? so i just add to the global-requirements file and submit a patch ? | 15:08 |
| alcabrera | yes | 15:08 |
| alcabrera | for now, however | 15:08 |
| alcabrera | I'm happy with +2-ing your current patch | 15:08 |
| alcabrera | could you add a comment indicating the global-reqs problem to gerrit? | 15:09 |
| alcabrera | we can work on getting hiredis added in to global-reqs in parallel, since it isn't a blocking issue | 15:09 |
| alcabrera | just an optimization | 15:09 |
| AAzza | by the way shouldn't we add new reqs also to reqs-py3? | 15:09 |
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| prashanthr_ | sure. i will do that. I will add hiredis and send a patch tmrw. Sorry for taking some time on this issue. | 15:09 |
| AAzza | if it is py3 compatible, of course | 15:10 |
| AAzza | but should be | 15:10 |
| alcabrera | AAzza: I believe it is, and good point. :) | 15:10 |
| alcabrera | prashanthr_: no worries! | 15:10 |
| alcabrera | prashanthr_: could you also add to py3-reqs.txt/ | 15:10 |
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| prashanthr_ | i will add to it as well. thanks AAzza ! :) | 15:11 |
| alcabrera | great. :) | 15:12 |
| prashanthr_ | i just had one doubt about shards | 15:12 |
| alcabrera | sure | 15:12 |
| prashanthr_ | so when we delete a shard should we also remove all associated data from the catalogue related to the shard ? | 15:12 |
| alcabrera | hmmm | 15:13 |
| alcabrera | yes | 15:13 |
| alcabrera | that sounds right | 15:13 |
| alcabrera | and I hope the current shard implementation does that. >.> | 15:13 |
| alcabrera | and... it doesn't. I think we have a bug. | 15:14 |
| prashanthr_ | i tried to look up into mongodb's catalogue controller, but could not find any such deletions. | 15:14 |
| alcabrera | prashanthr_: could you review the sharding implementation (shards, catalogue) for mongodb and verify this? If so, could you submit a bug indicating that this is a problem? | 15:15 |
| prashanthr_ | alcabrera: Sure. I will go through it again and confirm it. | 15:15 |
| alcabrera | thanks so much~ | 15:15 |
| alcabrera | *! | 15:15 |
| prashanthr_ | no problems. also i noticed a couple of more bugs | 15:16 |
| alcabrera | sure thing - what are they? | 15:16 |
| prashanthr_ | the limit value for listing queues and messages from a sharded context are being passed to the storage layer as None instead of the default values | 15:17 |
| alcabrera | hmmm, oh yeah | 15:18 |
| alcabrera | I see it for the MessagesController in sharding.py | 15:18 |
| alcabrera | so | 15:19 |
| alcabrera | I wonder what the behavior is when None is passed down? | 15:19 |
| alcabrera | it's definitely an inconsistency | 15:19 |
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| alcabrera | could you list it as a bug and we can go through and verify later, prashanthr_? | 15:20 |
| prashanthr_ | sure will do it. | 15:20 |
| alcabrera | thanks! | 15:20 |
| alcabrera | other thoughts/concerns, prashanthr_? :) | 15:21 |
| prashanthr_ | last thought: also when the request content-type is set to x-form-encoded instead of 'application/json' the server does not reply an invalid format exception for quite a long time. | 15:21 |
| alcabrera | hmmm | 15:21 |
| alcabrera | interesting | 15:21 |
| alcabrera | what wsgi server are you using, or is it the 'marconi-server' executable, prashanthr_? | 15:22 |
| prashanthr_ | marconi-server executable | 15:22 |
| alcabrera | and particular endpoint? I'm trying to repro locally. | 15:23 |
| alcabrera | *and -> any | 15:23 |
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| prashanthr_ | hmm i am using advanced rest client plugin of google chrome as it saves all requests to replay | 15:23 |
| malini | jchai: woooooot!!!!!!!!!! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87762/ is merged now | 15:23 |
| alcabrera | prashanthr_: interesting - I've just been trying locally with httpie. :) | 15:24 |
| prashanthr_ | is a similar behaviour seen ? | 15:24 |
| alcabrera | no, not yet | 15:24 |
| alcabrera | I tried | 15:24 |
| alcabrera | http -v get localhost:8888/v1 content-type:x-form-encoded | 15:24 |
| alcabrera | and | 15:25 |
| alcabrera | http -v get localhost:8888/v1/queues content-type:x-form-encoded | 15:25 |
| alcabrera | it seems as speedy as ever | 15:25 |
| AAzza | malini: what a long patch history :) | 15:25 |
| alcabrera | malini: nice! | 15:26 |
| alcabrera | jchai: congrats! | 15:26 |
| alcabrera | prashanthr_: for that slow down, let me know if you are able to repro with another client | 15:26 |
| malini | AAzza: tht history is a testimonial to jchai's patience! | 15:26 |
| alcabrera | alright - any other thoughts, prashanthr_? :) | 15:26 |
| prashanthr_ | alcabrera: Sure will try with httpie ! Nope. thank you :) | 15:27 |
| malini | jchai: great job!! this moves us closer to meeting the grad reqs | 15:27 |
| alcabrera | vkmc: heeeeyyyyy. :D | 15:27 |
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| alcabrera | so | 15:32 |
| alcabrera | I'll catch up with vkmc later, and I'll need some help from flaper87|afk, too. | 15:32 |
| alcabrera | AAzza, prashanthr_: How do you all feel about writing a weekly blog post or something along those lines chronicling your efforts and/or experiences? | 15:33 |
| alcabrera | ** open discussion ** | 15:33 |
| prashanthr_ | alcabrera: That's a really nice idea. :) | 15:33 |
| vkmc | Hi all! :) | 15:34 |
| vkmc | (forgot to set my away status) | 15:34 |
| alcabrera | hehe | 15:34 |
| prashanthr_ | there are so many stuffs i am getting to learn and blog would be a good summary of the learning and the experience. | 15:34 |
| alcabrera | no worries, vkmc | 15:34 |
| AAzza | vkmc: Nice to see you) | 15:34 |
| vkmc | AAzza, o/ | 15:34 |
| prashanthr_ | vkmc: Hi ! | 15:34 |
| vkmc | prashanthr_, Hi :) | 15:34 |
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| prashanthr_ | alcabrera: reported the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/marconi/+bug/1324587 | 15:36 |
| alcabrera | thanks, prashanthr_! | 15:36 |
| vkmc | so you were having the OPW/GSoC meeting and I just arrived in my turn | 15:36 |
| AAzza | alcabrera: yeah, blog posts) I have two drafts written while tests were running, will fix them after tomorrows exam) | 15:37 |
| alcabrera | vkmc: yup, just in time! :) | 15:37 |
| prashanthr_ | AAzza: All the best 4 xams ! | 15:38 |
| alcabrera | as for blogging, I want you to know that it's not required, but I encourage all of you to do so if you're inclined. :) | 15:38 |
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| vkmc | so, I have been working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/marconi/+bug/1243752 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/marconi/+bug/1257391 in parallel with a research about AMQP, which I'll working on on the future months | 15:39 |
| AAzza | prashanthr_: thanks) | 15:40 |
| alcabrera | vkmc: thanks for working on those! | 15:40 |
| vkmc | for 1243752 I found there is more to do and to discuss | 15:40 |
| alcabrera | yes, it seems there's some discussion to be had | 15:40 |
| vkmc | first, we have to find a way to refactor tests in order to cover v1.0 and v1.1 in a decent way | 15:40 |
| vkmc | (not the way I did it in my WIP patch... with ifs :x) | 15:40 |
| vkmc | s/first/firstly | 15:41 |
| vkmc | secondly, we have to decide if we want to change the behaviour of an already shipped API... we have to be careful | 15:42 |
| alcabrera | this sounds like an item we need to bring up on Tuesday's meeting | 15:42 |
| vkmc | I have been working on the first one... and the second one has to be discussed with the rest of the team | 15:43 |
| vkmc | sure :) | 15:43 |
| alcabrera | alright, I'll make sure that's on the agenda | 15:43 |
| vkmc | thanks alcabrera | 15:44 |
| alcabrera | how goes the amqp research, vkmc? | 15:44 |
| vkmc | and for 1257391 I have an idea in mind but I want some feedback too... so maybe it is something to discuss later | 15:45 |
| alcabrera | vkmc: sure thing. Let's talk about 1257391 after the meeting, if you're free. :) | 15:45 |
| vkmc | the amqp research... well, I managed to set up a deployment of Apollo http://activemq.apache.org/apollo/ | 15:46 |
| vkmc | this was helpful because I could try some of the amqp features which we will have to map with the Marconi API | 15:47 |
| * alcabrera clicks | 15:47 | |
| alcabrera | it looks exciting! | 15:47 |
| vkmc | it's pretty interesting yeah :) | 15:47 |
| alcabrera | have you been able to communicate with it using some python client? | 15:48 |
| vkmc | that's the bad part... I couldn't... with the C++ broker it worked just fine, but with Apollo it breaks | 15:49 |
| alcabrera | :( | 15:49 |
| alcabrera | there is where I want to bug flaper87|afk and ask for help | 15:50 |
| alcabrera | we need an amqp robot. <3 | 15:50 |
| alcabrera | **there -> this | 15:50 |
| vkmc | I'm certain that it's something related to my deployment, so I was planning to give it some time today and try to fix it | 15:50 |
| vkmc | if it doesn | 15:50 |
| alcabrera | best of luck, vkmc! | 15:50 |
| vkmc | doesn't fix... then I'll continue with the C++ one and start coding | 15:50 |
| vkmc | thanks alcabrera :) | 15:51 |
| vkmc | yeah we sure need an AMQP robot :) | 15:51 |
| alcabrera | sounds like a good plan to me, vkmc | 15:52 |
| alcabrera | alright | 15:52 |
| alcabrera | any concerns you'd like to bring up, vkmc? | 15:52 |
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| vkmc | no, that was all :) | 15:53 |
| alcabrera | cool | 15:53 |
| alcabrera | with that | 15:53 |
| alcabrera | this meeting comes to a close | 15:53 |
| alcabrera | thanks AAzza, prashanthr_, vkmc! :) | 15:54 |
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| vkmc | thanks you all... sorry I missed the start of it, I wasn't sure about the time | 15:54 |
| prashanthr_ | alcabrera: thank you :) | 15:54 |
| vkmc | AAzza, good luck with exams! /me crosses fingers | 15:56 |
| vkmc | :) | 15:56 |
| alcabrera | AAzza: yes, good luck! :D | 15:56 |
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| AAzza | vkmc: alcabrera: thanks, i will survive this 5 hours, i promise) | 15:57 |
| * kgriffs ended up being in the office today after all | 15:57 | |
| vkmc | kgriffs, !! how that happened? | 15:58 |
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| kgriffs | vkmc: I snuck in when nobody was looking. ;) | 16:00 |
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| kgriffs | I was going to have to be on the road today, but ended up sticking around Austin. | 16:01 |
| kgriffs | aaanyway | 16:01 |
| kgriffs | keep calm and code on | 16:01 |
| vkmc | haha | 16:03 |
| alcabrera | flaper87|afk, malini_afk, kgriffs: our agenda is looking very packed for the next meeting -- any thoughts on how to prioritize these items? | 16:03 |
| kgriffs | alcabrera: I've been thinking about that too... I am thinking some things we can start discussing on the mailing list and then the agenda items becomes a quick summary or vote | 16:04 |
| alcabrera | sounds like a good idea, esp. wrt API changes | 16:04 |
| kgriffs | otherwise, I can go through and move a couple of my own items to "discuss later" | 16:04 |
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| cpallares | AAzza, prashanthr_, vkmc: o/ hello fellow interns | 16:07 |
| cpallares | alcabrera: hi Alejandro | 16:07 |
| alcabrera | metadata support, amqp, magnetodb, sounds like items that the ML would love, kgriffs | 16:07 |
| alcabrera | v1.1 things, keystone changes, sound like good votes/quick updates | 16:08 |
| alcabrera | cpallares: heeeey! :D | 16:08 |
| vkmc | cpallares, hey hey o/ :) | 16:08 |
| alcabrera | I'm personally requesting that the code of conduct discussion be maintained as part of the marconi meeting, for now, whether it's next week or the one after | 16:08 |
| * cpallares is locked away in the glance-client cupboard under the stairs | 16:08 | |
| kgriffs | sounds good | 16:08 |
| cpallares | alcabrera: +1 | 16:08 |
| alcabrera | cpallares: oh no! | 16:09 |
| kgriffs | alcabrera: I moved a few things around (refresh) | 16:09 |
| alcabrera | overcome its oppressive grasp! | 16:09 |
| kgriffs | gotta run to a meeting now | 16:09 |
| cpallares | alcabrera: haha | 16:09 |
| alcabrera | kgriffs: kk, and thanks! | 16:09 |
| kgriffs | alcabrera: heh, maybe we need a meta-item at the top of the agenda: "please discuss stuff on the ML before the meeting so agenda items don't require as much time" | 16:10 |
| vkmc | cpallares, booo, hp style? | 16:10 |
| kgriffs | feel free to add that to the agenda for this next time. :) | 16:10 |
| kgriffs | k, gotta run for a bit | 16:10 |
| kgriffs | ttfn | 16:10 |
| cpallares | vkmc: yeah :P | 16:11 |
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| vkmc | cpallares, I'll send you an owl with poptarts then | 16:11 |
| cpallares | vkmc: lots of owls with lots of poptarts :D | 16:12 |
| vkmc | :D | 16:12 |
| alcabrera | omg | 16:12 |
| alcabrera | poptart owl. <3 | 16:12 |
| alcabrera | sounds like a real hoot | 16:12 |
| alcabrera | s/real/real sweet | 16:12 |
| cpallares | vkmc: this is the glance channel --> http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111115203647/sims/images/2/2f/Tumbleweed.gif | 16:13 |
| vkmc | it sounds like a good idea for Marconi's name | 16:13 |
| vkmc | OpenStack Hedwig! | 16:13 |
| vkmc | lol | 16:13 |
| alcabrera | haha | 16:13 |
| vkmc | cpallares, that looks lonely | 16:14 |
| cpallares | vkmc: it is, like a cupboard under the stairs | 16:16 |
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| vkmc | !!!! | 19:53 |
| openstack | vkmc: Error: "!!!" is not a valid command. | 19:54 |
| vkmc | ok ok haha | 19:54 |
| alcabrera | haha | 19:54 |
| alcabrera | openstack doesn't know the meaning of suprise, vkmc. :P | 19:54 |
| alcabrera | *surprise | 19:54 |
| vkmc | bots everywhere! haha | 19:55 |
| vkmc | alcabrera, maybe you have a second to share some thoughts about that refactoring bug you reported? | 19:55 |
| alcabrera | I was just about to get off of here, vkmc. Catch me tomorrow morning? :) | 19:55 |
| vkmc | sure :) | 19:56 |
| alcabrera | cool! | 19:56 |
| alcabrera | have a good night, all. o/ | 19:56 |
| vkmc | alcabrera, enjoy your evening o/ ttyt! | 19:57 |
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| flaper87 | kgriffs: ping | 20:47 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: pong | 20:47 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: hey :) | 20:47 |
| flaper87 | how are you doing? | 20:48 |
| * flaper87 replied to the ML discussion | 20:48 | |
| * flaper87 is glad to see more discussions happening on the mailing list | 20:48 | |
| kgriffs | yeah, I am going to bring that up in the next meeting too - try to encourage everyone to participate in ML discussions | 20:50 |
| flaper87 | I won't be able to attend next week meeting :/ | 20:51 |
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| kgriffs | booh | 20:51 |
| kgriffs | no pancakes for you. | 20:51 |
| * flaper87 will be in Israel next week | 20:51 | |
| flaper87 | good thing is that I'll present Marconi at OpenStack Israel | 20:52 |
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| mpanetta | Mmmm pancakes | 20:52 |
| kgriffs | ah, ok. I guess you will have some yummy falafel anyway. :D | 20:52 |
| flaper87 | It'll be a good way to experiment the "new way to present marconi" | 20:52 |
| mpanetta | I think we should rename marconi "pancake tubes" :P | 20:52 |
| flaper87 | some? Like TONS of them | 20:52 |
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| kgriffs | LOL | 20:52 |
| mpanetta | Mmmm falafel | 20:52 |
| kgriffs | let's just rename marconi to falafel | 20:52 |
| * ametts wonders why every time he signs into this channel people are talking about pancakes | 20:52 | |
| mpanetta | Ok maybe falafel tubes | 20:52 |
| mpanetta | ametts: We are a bunch of hungry people I guess. heh | 20:53 |
| * flaper87 wonders why ametts always shows up when we're talking about food | 20:53 | |
| kgriffs | flaper87: jokes aside, it will be good to find a message that resonates with people. you'll have to let us know how it goes. | 20:53 |
| ametts | I'm travelling and only sign in a for a few minutes at a time. Pancakes. Every time. What are the odds?! :) | 20:53 |
| flaper87 | yeah, I'll address it differently | 20:54 |
| mpanetta | kgriffs: Make sure that they push the message on a queue | 20:54 |
| flaper87 | actually, since you are here, let me share some thoughts | 20:54 |
| kgriffs | ametts: exactly 104,429,007.54 to 1 | 20:54 |
| mpanetta | Or the pancake as the case may be. | 20:54 |
| flaper87 | I want to start with a quick run through F.A.Q (Why, what, how) | 20:54 |
| flaper87 | Then a detailed intro to the architecture (talk about "pools" not "shards") | 20:55 |
| flaper87 | then deployment | 20:55 |
| mpanetta | Oh good. Yeah shards is a confusing term. | 20:55 |
| flaper87 | I'll talk about some things as if they existed already (AMQP, redis, pools) for example | 20:55 |
| mpanetta | pools already exist as shards no? | 20:56 |
| flaper87 | yeah | 20:56 |
| mpanetta | ok | 20:56 |
| kgriffs | well, sort of | 20:56 |
| flaper87 | At europython last year I focused on the architecture | 20:56 |
| kgriffs | for the most part, yes, but we have evolved the way we think of them - so wanted to rename to reflect that | 20:56 |
| flaper87 | that's nice for a "language conference" but not a "cloud oriented" conference | 20:56 |
| flaper87 | In hong kong we presented architecture and deployment + live demo | 20:57 |
| flaper87 | but we left some things out | 20:57 |
| flaper87 | like basic F.A.Q questions, IIRC | 20:57 |
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| kgriffs | yeah | 20:58 |
| flaper87 | Although I really don't like doing it, I'll say that Marconi is akin to SQS | 20:58 |
| flaper87 | that clears many things out w.r.t the API, the service and the fact we just have http for now | 20:58 |
| kgriffs | it would be good to tell people not just what it is up front, but *why* it is designed the way it is | 20:58 |
| kgriffs | so, I like that you are starting out with that before talking about the implementation and deployment | 20:59 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: I agree with the SQS comparison | 20:59 |
| flaper87 | coolio, glad we talked about this | 21:00 |
| kgriffs | marconi is like SQS with some pubsub on the side. And pancakes. With butter and maple syrup. | 21:01 |
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| flaper87 | LOL | 21:01 |
| flaper87 | and falafel | 21:01 |
| kgriffs | dang, I need to try this stuff. | 21:01 |
| flaper87 | with Zatar | 21:02 |
| ametts | I'm still heeeerrrrreeeee.... | 21:02 |
| * flaper87 loves Zatar | 21:02 | |
| * kgriffs wonders where he can get some Falafel in Austin | 21:02 | |
| flaper87 | Za'atar (to be precise) | 21:02 |
| flaper87 | gtg guys, have a good one! | 21:02 |
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