Thursday, 2016-11-03

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zengyingzhe_gouthamr, hi01:47
gouthamrzengyingzhe_: hey!01:47
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zengyingzhe_gouthamr, could you please take a moment to review this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391353/?01:48
gouthamrzengyingzhe_: i was looking at that patch earlier, but i did not see the huawei CI vote01:50
zengyingzhe_gouthamr, do you have any comments about the code itself? As for huawei CI, I'll take a look why it's not working.01:52
gouthamrzengyingzhe_: i do, i'll leave them on the patch01:57
zengyingzhe_gouthamr, OK, thanks a lot.01:58
gouthamrzengyingzhe_: you're welcome01:59
openstackgerritYingzhe Zeng proposed openstack/manila: Compare the encoded tag more accurately for huawei driver  https://review.openstack.org/38847302:34
openstackgerritzhongshengping proposed openstack/puppet-manila: Fix puppet version for requirements in metadata  https://review.openstack.org/39303902:36
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openstackgerritzhongshengping proposed openstack/puppet-manila: Fix puppet version for requirements in metadata  https://review.openstack.org/39307104:02
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openstackgerritClinton Knight proposed openstack/manila: Add create_share_from_snapshot_support extra spec  https://review.openstack.org/35668204:33
openstackgerritClinton Knight proposed openstack/python-manilaclient: Add create_share_from_snapshot_support extra spec  https://review.openstack.org/35668304:34
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openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs: Manila db purge utility  https://review.openstack.org/39240607:10
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openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs: Add spec for enable IPv6 in manila  https://review.openstack.org/36278608:46
openstackgerrithoward lee proposed openstack/manila: Replace 'assertEqual(None, ...)' with 'assertIsNone(...)'  https://review.openstack.org/39317308:54
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/manila-ui: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/38990310:33
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openstackgerritValeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila-ui: Update README.rst file with more info  https://review.openstack.org/39002210:46
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openstackgerritRodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: Fix missing 'migration_completing' task state  https://review.openstack.org/39327112:14
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openstackgerritYingzhe Zeng proposed openstack/manila: Change entity value while huawei driver records replication id  https://review.openstack.org/39238212:56
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tbarrondo we have anything like http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health tracking our non-voting CI jobs?13:01
* tbarron is trying to determine when the native cephfs job started failing13:01
tbarronlogstash/kibana data only goes back to 10/25 and it was failing then13:02
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vponomaryovtbarron: I am not aware about 7+ days logs old, but I can say that it started failing between Oct 13 and Oct 1713:10
tbarronvponomaryov: thanks!  Is this just from your excellent memory, or is there some tooling you can share?13:11
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vponomaryovtbarron: just have Ci results for these dates13:12
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tbarronvponomaryov: sure13:12
vponomaryovtbarron: your one - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352606/13:12
vponomaryovtbarron: still works, COt 1313:12
vponomaryovtbarron: and one of the results in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/365617/ for 17th of Oct - fails13:13
tbarronvponomaryov: thanks!13:13
vponomaryovtbarron: but was some different error on 12th of Oct - http://logs.openstack.org/94/385594/1/check/gate-manila-tempest-dsvm-cephfs-native-ubuntu-xenial-nv/ebf86b2/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz13:15
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openstackgerritVictoria Martinez de la Cruz proposed openstack/manila: Decouple Manila UI from Manila Devstack plugin  https://review.openstack.org/38885513:43
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/manila-specs: Drop MANIFEST.in - it's not needed by pbr  https://review.openstack.org/39010015:11
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* bswartz waves hands16:01
bswartzover here16:01
tbarronbe back in 10m16:01
bswartzI could schedule another meeting tomorrow16:01
bswartzbut if there's agreement not to elevate any of the remaining specs we could skip that16:01
vponomaryovbswartz: what about share groups spec?16:02
cknightvponomaryov: agree, that one should replace consistency groups if ameade is around to do it16:02
marksturcertainly would be good to remove CG and move forward.16:03
bswartzvponomaryov: it's a lot of proposed changes and I have doubts that ameade has the bandwidth to get it done by ocata16:03
gansovponomaryov: it is everyone-influencing feature but it is highly likely to break a lot of stuff16:03
marksturStill a little unclear what priority that would make it.16:03
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vponomaryovganso: that's why we should do it ASAP16:03
bswartzI will add that one to the review focus list16:03
gansovponomaryov: I like the idea of small stuff and clearing technical debt in Ocata, not introducing lots of stuff that could break many features16:03
bswartzbecause we don't want that spec merging without buyin from all of us16:03
vponomaryovbswartz, cknight: if ameade does not have time for it, why we do not search for volunteer?16:04
vponomaryovI can volunteer for it16:04
cknightvponomaryov: possible, but it's a huge patch, so the learning curve is bigger for anyone else.  if you want it, fine with me.16:04
cknightvponomaryov: I think ameade should have first refusal rights16:04
bswartzvponomaryov: I'd be okay with that -- have you talked to ameade about that possibility?16:05
vponomaryovno16:05
vponomaryovhaven't16:05
vponomaryovI just want to make sure we have it in Ocata16:05
xyang_cknight, bswartz: why not breaking it into multiple patches?16:05
bswartzpersonally my priority is that I want the cgroup APIs gone -- they're experimental and we've agreed that we don't want to keep them in their current form16:05
xyang_I broke mine in multiple patches in cinder16:05
bswartzif they can be replaced by generic group APIs then that's great16:06
gouthamrxyang_: +1, your patches were easier to review.16:06
gouthamrbut it was a pain iirc,16:06
gouthamrto do that16:06
cknightxyang_: That was ameade's choice.  It's big, but lots of it was just renaming stuff.16:06
gouthamri.e, breaking this CG change into multiple patches16:06
xyang_gouthamr: yes, but easier for reviewers to catch problems16:06
bswartzhowever I'm tired of doing nothing16:06
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cknightthe risk in a short release is getting it only partially done16:07
cknightameade: what say you :-)16:07
gouthamrameade: yay16:07
gansomaybe we should separate "renaming stuff" from "adding more functionality"16:07
ameadeI did a big patch because thats what folks wanted instead of splitting it up like i did cgs16:07
xyang_cknight: well, manila side is different as it just rename everything.  in cinder we have to gradually migrate over16:07
bswartzameade: +1 for big patch16:07
ameadeI have no problem handing it off if whoever takes it is comitted16:08
cknightameade: We have no problem with your owning it.16:08
ameadewould much rather focus on driving user messages in both manila and cinder16:08
bswartzameade: if vponomaryov takes this over you'd need to work with him at least a little bit to make sure that transition goes smoothly16:08
gouthamrameade: +1000 :)16:08
cknightameade: Are you committed, or should we have you committed?16:08
* bswartz commits ameade16:08
ameadelikely the latter lol16:08
ameadework is rolling in for me atm and it isnt upstream work16:09
bswartzgit add insane_asylum/ameade.txt16:09
ameadeI have picked the patch back up but I think vponomaryov would do a good job, if ur serious :)16:10
bswartzokay well for those staying late for the meeting, I've added this one to the etherpad16:10
bswartzbut I'm not designating it high priority16:10
vponomaryovbswartz: not high?16:11
bswartzso we need to drive agreement on it in the next 2 weeks16:11
vponomaryovwhy?16:11
bswartzvponomaryov: personally I can live without share groups in the short/medium term16:11
vponomaryovameade: anyway I would test it hard even just reviewing16:11
ameadebswartz: absolutely16:11
vponomaryovameade: so, I will have a deep dive into it16:12
bswartzlong term they'll be good for better management of associated data, but we have enough problems16:12
gansoI think that for Ocata, scenario tests are more important than Share Groups, as the latter will add even more complexity for scenario tests16:12
ameadekk, i posted a commentary with the next steps16:12
bswartzthe one thing I can't live with is non-removal for the cgroup APIs16:12
ameadeone additional thing is the todo in the db migration16:12
ameadeakerr: has a functional test patch16:12
bswartzwhatever happens in ocata, I want the cgroup APIs gone -- replacing them with share group APIs is nice-to-have16:13
bswartzokay let's officially end the extended meeting so people can get to lunch or other meetings16:14
bswartzwe only agreed on one high priority spec so far16:14
xyang_bswartz: can I ask you something16:14
bswartzI'll push that change16:14
bswartzand I'll add links to the etherpad and send out a ML post16:15
bswartzxyang_ sure16:15
xyang_bswartz: just want a confirmation on the locking thing.  you are looking for volunteers to implement it, right?16:15
bswartzxyang_: yes I'm looking for volunteers to help with a few things16:15
xyang_bswartz: ok, what are the few things, do you know?16:16
bswartzwe need help with locking/state changes/race conditions16:16
bswartzand also with distributed locking/tooz16:16
bswartzand help not only with implementation but also writing the specs16:16
bswartzI'm going to take stabs at those, but it will go faster if others pitch in16:16
xyang_bswartz: isn't goutham and tom working on too already16:17
xyang_tooz16:17
gouthamrwe are... but that's just getting tooz in.. we needed to add the leader election bits16:17
bswartzyeah there are many pieces that need to come together for distributed active/active manila-share16:18
gouthamrwe can just do locking now, very much like the current state of holding named locks.16:18
bswartztooz is step 116:18
xyang_bswartz: ok, so if could list the tasks somewhere on a etherpad and have people sign up, that may be easier16:18
gouthamrxyang_: +116:18
bswartzxyang_: yes16:18
gouthamrone of the action items we had was to start a subgroup and write up a spec16:18
bswartzI assigned myself a lot of action items in the last week and I'm working through them16:19
gouthamrprobably a continually improved spec16:19
bswartzexpect a flurry of ML posts from me about various things16:19
* gouthamr is glad bswartz doesn't think gouthamr assigned AIs to him :P16:19
vponomaryovgouthamr: good idea! ))16:19
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bswartzI'm glad that we covered most of the list of specs this week16:20
xyang_bswartz: ok, waiting for those.16:20
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openstackgerritBen Swartzlander proposed openstack/manila-specs: Add Ocata Priorities  https://review.openstack.org/39340216:38
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openstackgerritClinton Knight proposed openstack/manila: Add create_share_from_snapshot_support extra spec  https://review.openstack.org/35668217:14
openstackgerritClinton Knight proposed openstack/python-manilaclient: Add create_share_from_snapshot_support extra spec  https://review.openstack.org/35668317:14
openstackgerritMerged openstack/manila: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/39273917:23
tbarrontoabctl: vponomaryov: fwiw the cephfs devstack plugin failures appear to track with update upstream from 10.2.3-88-g9d1f756-1xenial to 10.2.3-339-g7b3ec11-1xenial17:24
tbarrontoabctl: vponomaryov: I am inquiring in ceph channels whether there are known systemd startup changes that track with that change17:25
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openstackgerritTiago Pasqualini da Silva proposed openstack/manila-specs: Add spec for mountable snapshots  https://review.openstack.org/32121317:49
openstackgerritTiago Pasqualini da Silva proposed openstack/manila-specs: Add spec for mountable snapshots  https://review.openstack.org/32121317:51
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openstackgerritClinton Knight proposed openstack/manila: Add create_share_from_snapshot_support extra spec  https://review.openstack.org/35668218:33
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/puppet-manila: Fix puppet version for requirements in metadata  https://review.openstack.org/39307119:04
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bob_lhello guys, quick question. Between control,compute,network or storage node, manila-data service should run in....?19:15
bob_lfor generic driver19:16
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bswartzbob_l: the data service is only used for migration -- it's not needed by the generic driver more than any other driver19:29
bswartzbob_l: you should be able to run it anywhere however19:29
bswartzthe only service that has limitations is the manila-share service, when used with the generic driver19:30
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bob_loh, ok bswartz19:33
bob_lthank you19:33
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bob_lbswartz: the manila-share service should run network node?19:40
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bswartzbob_l: yes if you use generic driver that's unfortunately required19:45
bob_lbswartz: thank you again19:46
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openstackgerritClinton Knight proposed openstack/manila-specs: Create share from snapshot extra spec  https://review.openstack.org/39104920:14
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openstackgerritClinton Knight proposed openstack/manila: Add create_share_from_snapshot_support extra spec  https://review.openstack.org/35668220:17
openstackgerritClinton Knight proposed openstack/python-manilaclient: Add create_share_from_snapshot_support extra spec  https://review.openstack.org/35668320:19
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openstackgerritGoutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/manila-specs: Add Ocata Priorities  https://review.openstack.org/39340222:42
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openstackgerritGoutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/manila-specs: Add Ocata Priorities  https://review.openstack.org/39340223:19
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