Tuesday, 2016-03-15

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qeasHi everyone, after a recent change to devstack I am getting this error when trying to stack.sh http://paste.openstack.org/show/490443/. Using the same local.conf that worked previously, any suggestions? Thanks in advance.00:11
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openstackgerritGoutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/manila: Ensure Snapshots across replicas  https://review.openstack.org/29265900:21
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tbarronqeas: I'm going offline in a moment, but: did devstack change?  (2) did your manila.conf change?  or (3) did the manila codebase change?00:35
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tbarron^^ looking at the stack trace, it seems to lead back to CONF.migration_tmp_location ...00:35
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openstackgerritRamana Raja proposed openstack/manila: glusterfs volume layout: take care of deletion of DOA shares  https://review.openstack.org/29217706:14
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openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila: Create share API without checking share network in DHSS=true mode  https://review.openstack.org/25635307:11
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openstackgerritAlexey Ovchinnikov proposed openstack/manila: LXC/LXD: Fix for share race condition  https://review.openstack.org/29236007:30
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openstackgerritMarc Koderer proposed openstack/manila: Fix keystone v3 issues in neutron client  https://review.openstack.org/29051108:33
openstackgerritAlexey Ovchinnikov proposed openstack/manila: Fix for missing neutron_host_id check  https://review.openstack.org/29108208:47
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openstackgerritMarc Koderer proposed openstack/manila: Fix keystone v3 issues in neutron client  https://review.openstack.org/29051109:16
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openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila: Check share-network in 'share create' API  https://review.openstack.org/25635311:08
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openstackgerritMarc Koderer proposed openstack/manila: Fix keystone v3 issues in neutron client  https://review.openstack.org/29051112:32
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openstackgerritAlexey Ovchinnikov proposed openstack/manila: LXC/LXD: Fix for share race condition  https://review.openstack.org/29236013:07
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openstackgerritAlexey Ovchinnikov proposed openstack/manila: LXC/LXD: Fix for incorrect user handling bug  https://review.openstack.org/29287113:21
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cknightganso: ping13:29
gansocknight: pong13:29
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cknightganso: hnas-ci is failing on the update_access patches.  Are you ready for those to merge?  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291279/13:30
gansocknight: no, my team and I are working to fix CI, we should get it running very soon13:31
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cknightganso: OK, I'll hold off, then.  Thanks.13:31
gansocknight: thank you13:31
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bswartzakerr: ping14:01
bswartzakerr: will "run netapp-ci" cause the CI to run even if jenkins voted -1?14:02
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bswartzvponomaryov: ping re https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/154822214:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1548222 in Manila "Capacity calculation error in batch creation" [High,New]14:08
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bswartzvponomaryov: does generic driver support >1 pool?14:08
vponomaryovbswartz: no14:09
bswartzvponomaryov: the log messages in the bug ^ seem to indicate 2 pools w/ generic driver14:10
bswartzI'm confused14:10
vponomaryovbswartz: there is Huawei driver14:11
bswartzwhy is hostname "ubuntu@generic1" then?14:11
vponomaryovbswartz: u'vendor_name': u'Huawei'14:11
vponomaryovbswartz: in report to scheduler14:11
bswartzu'share_backend_name': u'GENERIC1'14:12
akerrbswartz: yes14:12
vponomaryovbswartz: it is configurable14:12
bswartzokay I see Huawei name14:12
bswartzakerr: ty14:12
vponomaryovbswartz: I suspect they just didn't redefine default devstack options14:12
bswartzvponomaryov: yes, seems like a poor choice of backend name14:13
vponomaryovbswartz: can you please look here - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288504/10/doc/source/devref/share_back_ends_feature_support_mapping.rst14:13
bswartzwhat am I looking for?14:14
vponomaryovbswartz: it is about other thing, unrelated to your question, look at comments14:15
bswartzthis is change from dustins14:15
vponomaryovbswartz: yes14:15
* dustins starts paying attention14:15
vponomaryovbswartz: so, would be great to see your opinion about raised concern14:16
bswartzregarding the comment change with you and gouthamr: I think it misses the point14:17
dustinsFWIW, I mentioned in the comments that I could add a footnote for settings that can only be True14:17
bswartzthe value returned should not matter14:17
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bswartzthe question is whether it returns something accurate or not14:18
bswartzzfs does not currently return anything accurate, but it will after vponomaryov fixes bug14:18
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vponomaryovbswartz: it is not about only zfs14:18
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vponomaryovbswartz: there is also, HNAS and GlusterFS, maybe more14:19
gouthamrvponomaryov: would you prefer two columns, thin_provisioning=True | thin_provisioning=False (and so on)14:19
gouthamrvponomaryov: or a footnote saying that the value is True or False, Always.14:20
bswartzthe way the common capability is written, if the driver returns nothing, then thin_provisioning=False is assumed14:20
bswartzgouthamr: no I don't like that14:20
vponomaryovgouthamr: we are restricted to amount of columns14:20
bswartza single column should be used, and all driver should support it, unless they have inaccurate information14:20
bswartztherefore any driver that doesn't do thin provisioning automatically support the extra spec14:21
bswartzand any driver that returns something valid also does14:21
bswartzthe only ones that are wrong are ones that do thin provisioning but to not report it14:21
bswartzfor example ZFS14:21
bswartzthat's why a bugfix is needed14:22
gouthamrbswartz: that was kind of my point... if these aren't configurable, they're already the default values.14:22
gouthamri think vponomaryov was asking if we should somehow say that thick_provisioning is not possible.14:22
vponomaryovgouthamr: yes, table should say explicitly either driver supports " thick_provisioning" and/or " thin_provisioning"14:24
vponomaryovor some of these14:24
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gouthamrvponomaryov: i think the footnote makes sense, no?14:25
bswartzI don't know if it's smart to actually include which values the driver returns14:26
bswartzbecause it may depend on the underlying hardware platform or the list of supported values may change over time14:26
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bswartzthe manila driver's job is to communicate whichever value is correct14:27
bswartzif the driver is communicating the correct value, then the capability is "supported"14:27
vponomaryovbswartz: the point is in reporting "possible" values14:28
vponomaryovbswartz: in case of ZFSonLinux driver, it is impossible to have "thick" or full reservation14:29
vponomaryovbswartz: so, we can and should say explicitly, that only "thin" type is available14:29
dustinsvponomaryov: I could explicitly call that out in a footnote in that table14:29
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vponomaryovdustins: why not in table?14:33
vponomaryovdustins: False(M), True(L)14:33
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vponomaryovdustins: FalseTrue (M)14:33
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vponomaryovdustins: False\/True (M)14:34
dustinsThat could get messy, kinda like what happened with the DHSS True/False stuff in the share create/delete in the other table14:34
vponomaryovdustins: ok, do as you propose14:35
vponomaryovdustins: will see14:35
dustinsWill do, there'll be a patch up shortly!14:35
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dustinsAnd it's just for the ZFSonLinux driver for now, right? or is there another that falls under the same category of only supporting Thin Provisioning14:36
gouthamrdustins: hnas14:36
dustinsOkay, I'll make note of that as well14:36
dustinsthanks, gouthamr!14:36
gansogouthamr, dustins: hnas is already reporting True14:39
gansogouthamr, dustins: but yes, it is similar14:39
dustinsganso: And it's the case that not only is it reporting True but that True is the only thing it can report?14:40
gansogouthamr, dustins: we changed it to report always True because it is always Thin at this moment, we were not sure if Thin_provisioning_support = None was meant to mean "not configurable" or False (which would mean Thick), so we changed it to always report True14:40
dustinsganso: Makes sense to me14:41
dustinsI'll be sure to reflect that in the next patch set14:41
gansogouthamr, dustins: it can report Thick, but would require more changes to driver, so "False" value is currently unsupported right now14:41
dustinsthanks, ganso!14:41
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dustinsganso: Which release did thin provisioning start being true for hnas?14:52
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openstackgerritMarc Koderer proposed openstack/manila: Fix keystone v3 issues in neutron client  https://review.openstack.org/29051114:57
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gouthamrganso: thanks!15:03
mkoderer___vponomaryov: should I activate keystone v3 for patch https://review.openstack.org/290511 directly?15:03
mkoderer___means I add IDENTITY_API_VERSION=3  in pre_test_hook.sh..15:04
vponomaryovmkoderer___: I think yes15:09
vponomaryovmkoderer___: but doing so you need to fix all three clients15:10
mkoderer___vponomaryov: you're right..15:10
mkoderer___vponomaryov: so I will add patches up for cinder and nova and then wee swtich to v315:11
vponomaryovmkoderer___: you want make them separate?15:11
mkoderer___vponomaryov: I thought so (since I dislike huge patches)15:11
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vponomaryovmkoderer___: they are not usable if use separately15:12
mkoderer___vponomaryov: they are.. e.g. netapp driver only usues neutron client15:12
vponomaryovmkoderer___: cinder and nova?15:13
vponomaryovmkoderer___: they both should be fixed at once15:13
mkoderer___vponomaryov: yeah maybe I do everything with one15:13
vponomaryovmkoderer___: right now, it looks like you fix only single particular use case15:13
mkoderer___vponomaryov: that's right.. I will add nova and cinder in the commit then15:14
mkoderer___vponomaryov: makes sense to switch to v3 with one commit and not with 2 or 315:14
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tpsilvadustins: mitaka15:38
dustinstpsilva: Got it, thanks!15:38
tpsilvadustins: actually it was always thin provisioning, but it started reporting in mitaka15:38
tpsilvadustins: so I don't know which value you should put there15:38
tpsilvaganso, gouthamr: do you know? ^15:39
tpsilvamy guess would be mitaka15:39
dustinstpsilva: I'm thinking I'll do when it started reporting, that's what I'm doing with the NetApp backend as well on cknight's recommendation15:39
gouthamrtpsilva: my vote would be mitaka...15:39
gouthamrtpsilva: for the reason dustins just pointed out15:40
gansodustins, gouthamr: best to leave it as not-supported in Liberty, and Thin in Mitaka15:40
tpsilvadustins, gouthamr: yeah right... just remembered that recommendation from cknight15:40
dustinsOnce I get out of my meeting, I'll upload a new patch set with that in there, thanks tpsilva and gouthamr!15:41
gouthamrthank you dustins15:41
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tpsilvadustins: thank you!15:42
dustinsNo problem!15:42
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krotscheckAny cores around to add a +A to a 1-line mitaka bugfix? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291912/16:10
krotscheckWe already have two +2's.16:10
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cknightkrotscheck: I was hoping to see my CI vote for that one.  I'll kick it again.16:11
krotscheckcknight: boot it with great justice.16:12
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openstackgerritValeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: Fix report of ZFSonLinux driver capabilities  https://review.openstack.org/29302516:15
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openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/manila: 3PAR remove file tree on delete when using nested shares  https://review.openstack.org/29020916:21
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openstackgerritValeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: Fix report of ZFSonLinux driver capabilities  https://review.openstack.org/29302516:51
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vponomaryovgouthamr: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292659/ is bugfix?16:57
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gouthamrvponomaryov: i believe it is.. the snapshot semantics seemed different at the first go while fixing that bug.16:58
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gouthamrvponomaryov: then we decided to use snapshot instances, that were there, but unused16:59
vponomaryovgouthamr: it implements brand new interfaces16:59
gouthamrvponomaryov: i can't shove new data into the old interfaces :(16:59
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vponomaryovgouthamr: I would say that now we support "share replication", but not "snapshot replication", and implementation of the latter is a feature17:00
vponomaryovgouthamr: also, proper support requires snapshot-instances API17:01
vponomaryovbswartz: ^17:02
gouthamrvponomaryov: i did think hard about that.. but what of users who have replicas and snapshots when they migrate from mitaka to newton..17:02
gouthamrbswartz ^17:02
gouthamr:P17:02
gouthamrvponomaryov: working on the APIs for Newton, with zhongjun17:03
bswartzhi17:03
bswartzwhat are the arrow pointing at?17:03
gouthamrbswartz: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292659/17:03
openstackgerritThomas Bechtold proposed openstack/manila: Use sslutils from oslo_service  https://review.openstack.org/28938217:03
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gouthamrbswartz: vponomaryov suggests that we say DR as of mitaka does not support replication of snapshots17:04
bswartzreplicated snapshots have to be supported17:04
bswartzto back out that functionality would be a significant reduction in the usefulness of replication17:05
vponomaryovgouthamr: I say it is feature and we do implement it than is should follow FFE approach17:05
vponomaryovs/we do/if we do/17:05
vponomaryovs/than/then/17:05
gouthamrvponomaryov: i'm okay with requesting an FFE. bswartz, can i?17:05
bswartzthe original implemenetation of snapshots with replication which was merged before the feature freeze did actually work17:05
bswartzat the time I did not catch that snapshot instances were not created for each replica17:06
bswartzso I asked gouthamr to fix that17:06
bswartzIf we added new APIs as part of this change I would agree it's a new feature17:07
bswartzbut no UIs are changed -- the change is all internal, and the fix is how the original code should have been (IMO)17:07
vponomaryovbswartz: on driver side it is implementation of new interfaces17:07
vponomaryovbswartz: if we say so, then any driver change is bugfix17:07
bswartzthere is additional logic to reflect the true state of the snapshots into the manila DB17:08
bswartzbut the driver was already responsible for creating the snapshots on all replicas17:08
bswartzI don't disagree that this is a gray area17:08
bswartzwe often fall into the gray area between bugs and features17:08
bswartzhere is my specific concern17:09
bswartzif we don't change the behavior now, and ship mitaka as-is, then when we change the DB interface in newton there will be a rather ugly upgrade step from Mitaka to Newton17:10
bswartzI want to get the DB representation right before mitaka ships17:10
bswartzeven if we're missing APIs that we should have17:10
bswartzyes drivers need to write new code, but it's less messy than dealing with an upgrade step in the future17:10
vponomaryovbswartz: DB schema is not changed17:11
bswartznot the schema -- the rows17:11
bswartzif we wait until newton to make the change, then the upgrade step will need to take one row and convert it to many, and the driver will HAVE to be involved with that step17:11
bswartzwe've never had drivers involved with DB upgrades before17:12
bswartzI'd rather avoid it by fixing this now17:12
bswartzeven if it appears to be a new feature from the driver writer's perspective17:12
bswartzthere are only 2 affected drivers17:13
bswartzagain if we wait, the number of affected drivers may also be more17:13
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bswartzdustins gouthamr vponomaryov: finally I added my opinion to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288504/17:29
bswartzafter thinking about it over lunch I changed my mind from what i said earlier in the channel17:30
vponomaryovbswartz: so, looks like we are all in agreement17:32
bswartzon dustins's patch? yes I think so17:32
bswartzon the replicated snapshots feature/bug fix  I hope you guys agree that the pain of doing it before mitaka is less than the pain of doing it after mitaka17:33
bswartzand I asked gouthamr to minimize the scope of the change so it doesn't affect the API or config options because I don't want to treat it as a feature17:34
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/manila: NetApp cDOT driver should not split clones  https://review.openstack.org/29252817:48
gouthamrbswartz, vponomaryov: i will push up a patch for the API changes (meant for newton) soon; working on other bugs right now.17:53
bswartzgouthamr: it's not a priority17:54
bswartzwe have so many bugs left for mitaka17:54
bswartzwhere are those test and the changes to the netapp driver btw?17:54
Yogi1bswartz I am pushing the tests in few minutes17:55
bswartzYogi1: ty17:55
* bswartz thinks the hail storm last night may have knocked out some of his lab machines17:55
akerrbswartz: you leave the roof open in your attic?17:57
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vponomaryovakerr: maybe there is no roof anymore? ))18:02
vponomaryovgouthamr: can you please look at comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292659/1/manila/share/driver.py ?18:03
vponomaryovgouthamr: it influences driver implementation18:04
gouthamrvponomaryov: you're right. its a list of dicts18:04
gouthamrsorry about that. will fix it18:04
vponomaryovgouthamr: ok, then I will code considering it as list of dicts18:04
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gouthamrvponomaryov: thanks.18:05
gouthamrvponomaryov: same with delete_replicated_snapshot18:05
gouthamrvponomaryov: a list of instances to update, if any deleted instances, set status to "deleted"18:06
vponomaryovgouthamr: instances of snapshots?18:06
gouthamrvponomaryov: list of snapshot instances..18:07
gouthamrvponomaryov: just like that snapshot_list there.18:07
gouthamrsry, snapshot_instances_list18:07
bswartzakerr: power outages on unprotected equipment18:11
akerrbswartz: smh18:11
akerrbswartz: you run a datacenter without surge protectors?18:11
bswartzmy UPSes seem to be misallocated18:12
bswartzmoving them around is a pain because it involves downtime18:12
openstackgerritGoutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/manila: Ensure Snapshots across replicas  https://review.openstack.org/29265918:12
vponomaryovgouthamr: what statuses are expected for snapshot instances?18:14
gouthamrvponomaryov: same as snapshots: 'creating', 'deleting', 'error', 'error_deleting', 'available'18:15
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vponomaryovgouthamr: you sure?18:15
gouthamrvponomaryov: and 'error_deleting'.18:15
vponomaryovgouthamr: replica snapshot cannot have "in-sync"?18:15
gouthamrvponomaryov: xyang added 'managing' and related statuses, i am submitting a related change to disallow unmanaging a replicated snapshot18:16
gouthamrvponomaryov: i like that idea.. but it would be very different from our current implementation..18:17
vponomaryovgouthamr: current implementation?18:17
gouthamrvponomaryov: snapshots as of today18:17
vponomaryovgouthamr: snapsot instances are not available via API18:17
dustinsbswartz: ping about thin_provisioning column18:18
gouthamrvponomaryov: so instead of 'creating' and 'available' are you suggesting 'in_sync' and 'out_of_sync'?18:23
gouthamrvponomaryov: creating---> out_of_sync; available---> in_sync18:23
vponomaryovgouthamr: same approach as for replicas18:23
gouthamrvponomaryov: the difference is i don't have a replica_state field on the snapshots..18:24
vponomaryovgouthamr: ))18:24
vponomaryovgouthamr: then DB should be updated18:25
gouthamrvponomaryov: then it becomes a feature18:25
gouthamr:P18:25
vponomaryovgouthamr: right ))18:25
bswartzdustins: yes18:28
dustinsbswartz: So it sounds like you want me to report whether the driver reports True, False or Nothing, or Both for the thin_provisioning capability18:29
bswartzdustins: nothing == False18:31
gouthamr^^boolean, yeah18:31
dustinsbswartz: Right, just including for completeness18:31
bswartzI wouldn't distinguish though18:31
dustinsI wasn't planning on it :)18:31
bswartzthe capability doc explains that the default is False18:31
bswartzokay18:31
dustinsSo for everything that currently has a "-", replace with "False" or "F"18:32
gouthamrnot F dustins18:32
gouthamrF = Folsum18:32
dustinsgouthamr: That was before my time :P18:33
gouthamror before manila18:33
gouthamr:)18:33
dustins:P18:33
dustinsThe ones that have a release, and are not ZFSonLinux or HDFS, get Both18:33
dustinsAnd those two get True only18:33
vponomaryovdustins: GlusterFS is expected to be that kind of driver too18:37
vponomaryovdustins: better ask csaba or rraja18:37
dustinsvponomaryov: Not a bad idea, it wasn't immediately clear from the driver source, so I'll have to ask them18:38
dustins(though I think rraja is offline and csaba is on PTO)18:38
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bswartzI'm not sure if listing the release adds any value18:40
bswartzit's something we inherited from cinder and it's always annoyed me18:40
bswartzif people want to know what was supported in past releases, that's what git history and stable branches are for18:41
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dustinsBut is that viable or expected for an "average" user or installer?18:42
bswartzdustins: these docs are part of the source code....18:43
bswartzreally I would prefer for non-developer-facing information to be out of tree18:43
bswartzthis page is the only remaining exception to that rule18:43
dustinsRight, but I'd imagine that most users would go to the "rendered" documents on OpenStack's documentation site18:44
bswartzyeah18:44
bswartzopenstack-manuals is the right home18:44
dustinsbswartz: Yeah, glad I wasn't the only one who that that was odd18:44
bswartzit's a quirk of history18:44
bswartzif someone wanted to fix this by moving the doc entirely I would wholeheartedly support that18:45
* bswartz wonders why he can't highlight anything with his mouse...18:45
dustinsHmm...An idea for when I get bored :D18:45
* bswartz silently curses XFCE18:45
dustinsAnd that's odd...18:45
dustinsGnome3 has gotten pretty good of late18:46
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bswartzgrrrr18:54
bswartzwhat's with the schism between gnome 2 and gnome 3?18:54
bswartzI don't even follow that little war18:55
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/manila: register the config generator default hook with the right name  https://review.openstack.org/29191219:01
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dustinsI dunno, but Gnome 2 lives on through Mate!19:09
dustinsI ran that for a bit on the workstation19:09
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/manila: Remove default values for update_access()  https://review.openstack.org/29115319:26
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openstackgerritGoutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/manila: Ensure Snapshots across replicas  https://review.openstack.org/29265919:34
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aorourkebswartz, thank you for reevaluating the 3PAR nested shares bug and granting the ffe. I definitely think this is the way to fix the issue19:45
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openstackgerritYogesh proposed openstack/manila: Add tests to ensure snapshots across replicas  https://review.openstack.org/29311320:03
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bswartzaorourke: sorry to make you do extra work20:06
openstackgerritGoutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/manila: Add tests to ensure snapshots across replicas  https://review.openstack.org/29311320:07
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openstackgerritGoutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/manila: Ensure Snapshots across replicas  https://review.openstack.org/29265920:59
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openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/manila: 3PAR remove file tree on delete when using nested shares  https://review.openstack.org/29020921:32
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openstackgerritRodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: Fix Hitachi HNAS driver version  https://review.openstack.org/29317523:55
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