Tuesday, 2016-02-23

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openstackgerritRodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: Implement update_access() in generic driver + LVM  https://review.openstack.org/25628101:33
openstackgerritRodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: Implement admin network in generic driver  https://review.openstack.org/27869901:34
openstackgerritRodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: Introduced Data Service  https://review.openstack.org/24428601:35
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openstackgerritRodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: Move Share Migration code to Data Service  https://review.openstack.org/25051501:43
openstackgerritRodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: Add new Share migration API functions  https://review.openstack.org/25964201:43
openstackgerritRodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: [Do not merge] Test LVM mount capability  https://review.openstack.org/28250701:44
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openstackgerritliucheng proposed openstack/manila: Validate qos during share creation  https://review.openstack.org/28012702:46
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openstackgerritBen Swartzlander proposed openstack/manila: Allow devstack plugin to work without Cinder  https://review.openstack.org/27856204:04
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mkoderervponomaryov: BUILD_TIMEOUT seems to be set to 80 secs but I can't find where ..08:43
mkodererhttp://logs.openstack.org/18/280318/6/check/gate-manila-tempest-dsvm-neutron-scenario-multibackend/76b49c1/logs/tempest_conf.txt.gz08:43
mkoderervponomaryov: in the validation section it's set to 80 secs but for lib/tempest its 19608:44
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openstackgerritMarc Koderer proposed openstack/manila: Fix scenario tests  https://review.openstack.org/28031809:00
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openstackgerritMarc Koderer proposed openstack/manila: [WIP] Add multi-segment support  https://review.openstack.org/27773110:24
openstackgerritMarc Koderer proposed openstack/manila: [WIP] Add neutron driver for binding  https://review.openstack.org/28349410:24
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openstackgerritSam Wan proposed openstack/manila: Replace TENANT => PROJECT for manila plugin  https://review.openstack.org/28349510:27
vponomaryovmkoderer: looks like BUILD_TIMEOUT is redefined in some expression set is hidden in logs10:29
vponomaryovmkoderer: we can get it know setting "set -v" in each shell10:29
vponomaryovmkoderer: but, we do not really need to set up this opt, it is set up in tempest to 196 and then redefined by our post hook10:30
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mkoderervponomaryov: ok so I will set it to 196 hardcoded then10:42
vponomaryovmkoderer: no10:43
vponomaryovmkoderer: just remove that line10:43
vponomaryovmkoderer: it is already set to 19610:43
mkoderervponomaryov: ah ok fine let's try that one10:43
vponomaryovbut better to get know where it is redefined using "set -v" hack10:43
vponomaryovsomeone redefines this env var after run of main devstack script10:44
vponomaryovbut before run of post hook10:44
mkoderervponomaryov: yeah I will dig a bit in it.. in meanwhile I just want to see the scenario test passing :)10:45
openstackgerritMarc Koderer proposed openstack/manila: Fix scenario tests  https://review.openstack.org/28031810:45
vponomaryovmkoderer: everyone wants see it passing ))10:46
mkoderervponomaryov: btw I pushed another change for hpb support https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283494/10:47
mkoderervponomaryov: hopefully I can resuse the Ironic binding mechanism10:47
mkodererthis would ease up things alot10:47
mkodererbut I need to verify it in our labs.. so it's still WiP10:48
vponomaryovmkoderer: why do you need status of a port? also,have you seen my comment in appropriate etherpad?10:48
mkoderervponomaryov: yeah I saw it10:48
mkoderervponomaryov: the thing is that if the network fabric does an actual port bind it could fail (or take longer)10:49
mkoderervponomaryov: nova and neutron have a special notifier rpc class for that10:49
mkodererI want to avoid that in manila but caching the state can be tricky10:50
vponomaryovmkoderer: so, you want transparency?10:50
vponomaryovmkoderer: Manila does not cache state/status of a port at all10:50
mkoderervponomaryov: yeah due to the fact the the state database fiels is not really used10:50
mkoderers/fiels/field/10:50
vponomaryovmkoderer: what "state"?10:51
vponomaryovmkoderer: it is absent10:51
vponomaryovmkoderer: absent thing cannot be used10:51
mkoderervponomaryov: https://github.com/openstack/manila/blob/master/manila/network/neutron/neutron_network_plugin.py#L12710:51
mkoderervponomaryov: so the real port state is currently ignored10:52
vponomaryovmkoderer: ohh, this one10:53
vponomaryovmkoderer: so, you want Manila report proper info?10:53
vponomaryovmkoderer: calling rpc of neutron?10:53
mkoderervponomaryov: I am thining about it10:53
mkoderervponomaryov: but as first step manila should wait until the port state is "active".. at least if a real binding takes place10:54
openstackgerritThomas Bechtold proposed openstack/manila: Check for device node availability before mkfs  https://review.openstack.org/28184910:55
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openstackgerritSilvan Kaiser proposed openstack/manila: Add update_access() interface to Quobyte driver  https://review.openstack.org/28113610:57
rrajatpsilva: ping10:58
tpsilvarraja: pong10:58
rrajatpsilva: hi! about update_access for a driver, should a driver stop updating the access rule even if one of the rules in the rule list (delete/add/access_rule) is invalid (not the right access level or type for the driver) or just skip the invalid valid ones?11:00
rrajas/invalid valid/invalid/11:00
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tpsilvarraja: when adding rules, you should raise an exception, making the rules go to an error state. When removing rules, you should ignore invalid rules. This will remove any invalid rules that might be present, getting back to an active state11:04
rrajatpsilva: and this is what line 217 of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256281/30/manila/share/drivers/helpers.py tries do, right?11:07
tpsilvarraja: yes... see rodrigo's reply to clinton's comment11:12
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tpsilvathis validation wouldn't be needed, since exportfs does not raise an error, but we found an edge case11:12
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rrajatpsilva: yeah, i saw that. thanks! i was not so confident about my understanding as couple of drivers' update_access that are in review don't seem to skip the invalid rules while deleting even though the drivers validate while deletion.11:19
vponomaryovoh no, gates are broken again ><11:28
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openstackgerritValeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: Fix 403 error for m-api using latest Devstack  https://review.openstack.org/28354612:27
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toabctlvponomaryov: ^^ this is a duplicate of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/28349512:34
mkoderertoabctl: vponomaryov version supports both SERVICE_PROJECT_NAME and SERVICE_TENANT_NAME which look also fine for me12:44
mkodererI'd perfer to merge the first fix that get's jenkins +1 :)12:45
toabctl:)12:45
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gansovponomaryov: ping13:18
vponomaryovganso: pong13:18
gansovponomaryov: Hi Valeriy. I have a question about ZFS. Isn't it possible to use existing NFS Helper for ZFSonLinux driver?13:18
vponomaryovganso: it is recommended by ZFS devs to use ZFS command for exports13:20
gansovponomaryov: how about extending NFSHelper class and overriding "create_export" ?13:20
vponomaryovganso: if you look at ZFs's helper, you will see that it has different args13:21
vponomaryovganso: it uses ZFS-specific names of datasets13:22
vponomaryovganso: code for ZFS NFS helper and LVM/generic requires its own interface anyway13:22
gansovponomaryov: I understand it now. Thanks! =)13:26
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mkodererganso: vponomaryov: we have a jenkins +1 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283495/13:54
mkoderercan we unblock the gate :=13:54
bswartzmkoderer: I think this is blocking dev as well as the gate13:55
mkodererbswartz: this will fix it too https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283531/13:56
mkodererbswartz: but using the correct var is better13:56
bswartzindeed13:57
bswartzI was scratching my head last night about what broke13:57
bswartzI knew it was keystone related13:57
bswartzbut I had to go to sleep13:57
gansomkoderer: gate and patches will be running again, but we need to debug why postgress-neutron and lvm jobs are not running13:57
vponomaryovganso: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/154880713:58
openstackLaunchpad bug 1548807 in neutron "neutron lbaas DB support is broken on PostgreSQL" [Undecided,New]13:58
mkodererganso: omg13:58
vponomaryovdouble strike!13:58
mkodererbswartz: we need to find a way to protect the non-core gates.. I dislike the way it's currently handled13:59
bswartzmkoderer: what do you mean protect?13:59
bswartzand what do you mean by non-core?13:59
bswartzyou mean non-voting jobs?14:00
vponomaryovbswartz: manila is non-core and its gates are non-core14:00
bswartzoh14:00
gouthamrvponomaryov :(14:00
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bswartzwhen you say "we" you mean the whole community14:00
bswartzyes14:00
mkodererbswartz: simply a devstack patche that gets a jenkis+1 but breaks all non-core projects14:00
mkodererbswartz: yes WE as openstack-devs14:00
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mkodererit's simply a waste of time that might 40 devs of various projects try to fix the very same issue14:01
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mkodererganso: do we depend on neutron lbaas? I would say no14:04
mkoderermaybe we simply deactivate it14:04
gansomkoderer: I am not sure14:06
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mkodererganso: we could use OVERRIDE_ENABLED_SERVICES in project conifg and disable q-lbaas14:15
mkodererganso: but it's might worth to wait for the offical fix14:15
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gansomkoderer: if it is not needed it shouldn't be running in the first place14:32
gansomkoderer: this is probably correct for LVM job14:33
gansomkoderer: but neutron-postgres probably needs it14:33
openstackgerritMerged openstack/manila: Replace TENANT => PROJECT for manila plugin  https://review.openstack.org/28349514:35
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/manila: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/28247915:02
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gansocknight: ping15:09
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cknightganso: pong15:11
gansocknight: Hi Clinton. I saw your comment in update_access generic driver patch15:12
gansocknight: I think we would need to remove the "=None" from delete_rules=None method signature15:13
gansocknight: if a list is always being supplied, then parameters are not optional.15:14
cknightganso: makes sense, although the access code is always returning lists.15:15
cknightganso: it's much cleaner if lists are always returned, and drivers don't have to check for null before iterating on them15:15
gansocknight: I agree, but we need to change this across all driver patches if we change it now15:16
cknightganso: since you always return lists now, you could change the signature across all drivers in one bugfix patch during M.415:16
gansocknight: +115:17
cknightganso: because by that time, you know exactly which drivers implemented update_access and need to change15:17
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mkodererganso: no I would say lbaas is not needed at all.. Manila doesn't use it15:25
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bswartzhey guys15:30
bswartzare both of the gate issues fixed?15:31
gansobswartz: no, just one15:32
bswartzare people other than me interested in being able to run gate jobs with neutron disabled completely?15:33
bswartzI think it's possible, but only with changes to our jenkins jobs in project-config15:33
mkodererbswartz: you mean an additional check with neutron disabled?15:34
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gansobswartz: I believe neutron should be disabled for LVM job15:36
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bswartzganso: me too15:38
bswartzmkoderer: I mean for gate jobs that don't require neutron, we should no bother installing it15:39
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bswartzprimarily I'm interested in conserving gate resources and getting faster feedback15:39
mkodererbswartz: +115:39
bswartzif we observe increased reliability because neutron sometimes breaks, I consider that bonus15:40
bswartzhowever some of our gate jobs simply require neutron and we'll never remove it from those15:40
mkodererbswartz: I think it would be a good idea to have a review of all our jobs and serivces that are enabled15:40
mkodererbswartz: we also don't need swift15:41
bswartzmkoderer: I'll do some work on it15:41
mkoderercool15:41
mkodererI think we need to set OVERRIDE_ENABLED_SERVICES in our project-config15:42
bswartzmkoderer: I know - for jobs like LVM driver I'll propose removing: nova, neutron, glance, swift, heat, cinder, horizon, and ceilometer15:42
bswartzyes, OVERRIDE_ENABLED_SERVICES is the correct mechanism, but it requires using different job templates in the jenkins job builder15:42
mkodererbswartz: oh I didn't know that LVM is that independent15:42
mkodererthat will be a very fast job then15:43
bswartzmkoderer: all we need for LVM is mysql, rabbit, keystone, and tempest15:43
bswartzthe challenge may be if tempest itself has dependencies on those other services15:43
vponomaryovit is true only for API tests, each "scenario" set reuquires and Nova, and Neutron15:44
mkodererbswartz: usually devstack should do the job and configure tempest accordingly15:44
mkoderervponomaryov: yeah but here we can also remove some services like horizon, swift, heat etc15:44
vponomaryovmkoderer: tempest requires nework service for creation of new tenants, isn't it?15:45
vponomaryovs/nework/network/15:45
bswartzvponomaryov: for scenario tests, I agree we should require nova+neutron15:45
bswartzif tempest is not able to create new tenants without neutron then I propose that we fix tempest15:46
vponomaryovbswartz: we? )015:46
mkodererbswartz: +1 .. I will fix tempest then :)15:46
bswartzvponomaryov: well someone should15:46
vponomaryovsomeone != we ))15:46
bswartz"we" = openstack community15:47
mkoderer:)15:47
mkodererbswartz: let's have a try and I will have a look about tempest resource creation15:47
bswartztempest is too rooted in the old days of only testing "core" projects15:47
mkodererit shouldn't be coupled like that15:48
bswartzif tempest cannot become flexible enough to test standalone projects, then we need to replace tempest itself with something that can15:48
bswartzI hate all these hidden dependencies15:48
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mkodererbswartz: wait until we indentified them :)15:49
bswartzhey my dev environment is unbroken15:49
bswartzthank you Sam Wan15:50
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bswartzdoes anyone know Sam Wan's IRC handle? xyang_ xyang1?15:50
xyang1bswartz: he won't be on irc now.  he is in china15:51
bswartzok15:51
xyang1bswartz: what's up?15:51
xyang1bswartz:  CI issue?15:51
bswartzxyang1: he fixed our broken gate this morning15:51
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xyang1bswartz: nice!15:52
mkodererbswartz: we should send him a thank you mail15:52
xyang1mkoderer: bswartz he is taking care of our CI15:53
xyang1mkoderer: bswartz I'll let him know your thanks:)15:54
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tpsilvahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/277366/15:56
tpsilvacan we get this workflowed?15:56
tpsilvabswartz: thank you!15:58
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xyang_gouthamr: ping16:03
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xyang_bswartz: gouthamr added a comment in my patch here regarding provider_location: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249542/64/manila/api/v1/share_snapshots.py@6516:06
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xyang_bswartz: he said provider_location should be a property in the snapshot model16:07
gouthamr_hi xyang_16:07
xyang_cknight, vponomaryov: ^16:07
gouthamr_xyang_: sorry my nick'd changed16:07
bswartzyou mean the column is still in the instances table but the alchemy model synthesizes a field on the snapshot object?16:08
xyang_gouthamr_: hi16:08
xyang_bswartz: right now I only retrieve it at get_snapshot time, not adding it as a property in snapshot model16:08
bswartzxyang_ that sounds find to me16:08
gouthamr_xyang_: regarding that comment, yes.. since every snapshot will have a provider_location, this should be in the model.16:08
bswartzgouthamr_: what is the objection?16:09
vponomaryovxyang_: yes, gouthamr_ is completely right16:09
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vponomaryovxyang_: if you expect that attr to be,then make it be always in DB model16:09
bswartzcould we have a snapshot with no instances (even for a very slim time window)?16:09
gouthamr_bswartz: the API is not the right place to fake a key in..16:09
vponomaryovxyang_: in current case it will be relationship attr to snapshot instance model16:09
gouthamr_bswartz: in that case, this would be None.16:10
bswartzokay16:10
xyang_vponomaryov: have you looked at his comment?  he also said it should not be in views16:10
bswartzthat sounds fine to me too16:10
gouthamr_bswartz: i think that's okay..16:10
vponomaryovxyang_: such hack16:10
vponomaryovxyang_: such hack should be absent in API and views16:10
xyang_vponomaryov: we have it in views because of versioning16:10
gouthamr_xyang_: grab the key as it is in the model.. don't add it to the model in the API. .16:10
vponomaryovxyang_: comment is only about single thing - add attr in DB model, that's all16:11
gouthamr_xyang_: yep.. the magic of whether the key will appear or not, will depend on what you grab in the view.16:11
xyang_gouthamr_: what do you mean by "model in the API"?  are you referring to this file https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249542/64/manila/api/v1/share_snapshots.py16:12
gouthamr_xyang_: sorry if that was a vague comment. i was doing something similar with a property in ShareInstance ('has_replicas'); until vponomaryov corrected me16:12
gouthamr_xyang_: yes.. create a new @property in the ShareSnapshot model..16:13
gouthamr_xyang_: just like 'status' in the ShareSnapshot model here: manila/db/sqlalchemy/models.py16:13
xyang_vponomaryov: have you got chance to review my latest patch?  I'd like to get your feedback on all the new changes16:13
vponomaryov xyang_: I haven't, working on finishing ZFS16:13
xyang_bswartz: are you ok if I add it to property of snapshot model?16:14
gansotoabctl: ping16:15
toabctlganso: ping16:20
gansotoabctl: Hi THomas16:20
gansotoabctl: looks like your suggestion did not work16:20
gansotoabctl: http://logs.openstack.org/99/278699/22/check/gate-manila-tempest-dsvm-neutron-multibackend/7e7f955/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz16:21
gansotoabctl: weird thing is that I had tested it before, either I had not noticed the "Created a new network" output, or neutron client has been updated16:21
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toabctlganso: interessting. I can reproduce this and that looks like a bug in neutronclient16:25
gansotoabctl: I will revert to the old approach then16:26
toabctlganso: yeah. sorry. I'm using that style all the time for things like that.16:26
gansotoabctl: np, I really liked when I saw it working, but now it does not work anymore =(16:26
toabctlganso: you could use the openstack client. it supports the same style of output16:28
gansotoabctl: all I see is subnet list command in openstack client16:31
toabctlganso: there is "openstack network create"16:32
gansotoabctl: yes, but I also need "neutron subnet-create" equivalent16:32
bswartzxyang_: yes I'll defer to vponomaryov's and gouthamr's judgement on that one16:34
toabctlganso: hm. right. so go ahead with the grep and get_field function :)16:34
gansotoabctl: ok16:35
gansocknight: ping16:35
cknightganso: pong16:35
xyang_bswartz: sounds good:).  I just want to make sure everyone is on the same page16:35
toabctlganso: I filled at least a bug for neutronclient16:35
gansocknight: regarding your comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256281, do you expect any change after what we discussed?16:36
cknightganso: I guess not, assuming we change the interface in a later patch.  I've been telling other driver writers that None checks aren't necessary (which according to the access code, they aren't).16:37
gansocknight: sure, we can also change their checks within the later patch, I wouldn't mind about that right now, they are just implementing according to the method signature16:38
cknightganso: agreed16:39
openstackgerritShaun Edwards proposed openstack/manila: EMC Isilon Driver Support For CIFS Read-Only Share  https://review.openstack.org/27814816:43
openstackgerritRodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: Implement admin network in generic driver  https://review.openstack.org/27869916:46
openstackgerritRodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: Introduced Data Service  https://review.openstack.org/24428616:48
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dasmvponomaryov: ping.16:49
vponomaryovdasm: pong16:50
dasmhey, i'm looking at this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/154880716:51
openstackLaunchpad bug 1548807 in neutron "neutron lbaas DB support is broken on PostgreSQL" [Undecided,New]16:51
dasmlogstash shows me just one occurence of this problem.16:51
dasmbut i've seen it in couple different places.16:52
dasms16:52
dasmcould you help me with triaging this?16:52
dasmvponomaryov: ^16:52
vponomaryovdasm: you can look at results of "gate-manila-tempest-dsvm-neutron-postgres-lvm-multibackend" and "gate-manila-tempest-dsvm-neutron-postgres" jobs that run for each manila commit16:53
vponomaryovdasm: they all fail with DB error on neutron-lbaas DB migration step16:53
openstackgerritRodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: Move Share Migration code to Data Service  https://review.openstack.org/25051516:54
openstackgerritRodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: Add new Share migration API functions  https://review.openstack.org/25964216:54
vponomaryovdasm: these jobs use postgres as DB backend16:54
dasmmhm. the strange thing is that all these logs show problem with db, but logstash shows just: project:"openstack/manila" AND message:"lbaas_listeners_ibfk_2" (2)  count per 12h | (2 hits)16:55
dasmbut it seems to be a problem with logstash16:55
vponomaryovdasm: yes, logstash just does not show all occurrences16:55
dasmvponomaryov: thanks for your help.16:57
vponomaryovdasm: do you know why ther eis no postgres CI job for Neutron?16:57
dasmvponomaryov: nope. probably this should be raised as a concern.16:58
bswartz+116:58
vponomaryovdasm: definitely should16:59
vponomaryovdasm: as postgres is treated as supported DB backend16:59
vponomaryovdasm: also, it is easy to add Postres unit tests17:00
dasmvponomaryov: we'll need to talk about this asap17:00
dasmvponomaryov: thanks for bug report17:01
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vponomaryovdasm: I can I help you somehow else?17:01
dasmvponomaryov: no, thanks.17:01
dasmhave a nice day17:01
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vponomaryovdasm: ok17:01
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openstackgerritValeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: Add ZFSonLinux share driver  https://review.openstack.org/27719218:02
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openstackgerritMarc Koderer proposed openstack/manila: Fix scenario tests  https://review.openstack.org/28031818:21
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openstackgerritTiago Pasqualini da Silva proposed openstack/manila: Add separate process for Data Service copy  https://review.openstack.org/27916419:03
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openstackgerritDiem Tran proposed openstack/manila: Add share resize support to Oracle ZFSSA driver  https://review.openstack.org/27393520:06
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openstackgerritDiem Tran proposed openstack/manila: Add share resize support to Oracle ZFSSA driver  https://review.openstack.org/27393520:09
dustinsDoes anyone know if the Generic Share Driver supports thin provisioning? I looked at http://docs.openstack.org/developer/manila/devref/share_back_ends_feature_support_mapping.html and didn't see it or any other drivers in there20:10
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bswartzdustins: that's up to cinder20:13
bswartzdustins: generic driver relies on cinder for actual storage, and whether or not that storage is thin provisioned is up to cinder20:14
bswartzwe have example of generic running on top of cinder with LVM+thin20:14
dustinsbswartz: so if I have thin provisioning set up on my Cinder backend, would that cascade through the backend's capabilities into Manila?20:14
bswartzmanila certainly doesn't do anything that turns a thin cinder volume into a thick cinder volume -- we format with ext4 filesystem which doesn't write many blocks20:15
dustinsRight, I guess what I'm asking is if the backing volume is thin provisioned, will the manila pool report itself as supporting thin provisioning?20:15
bswartzdustins: I don't think it shows up as a capability at the scheduler level, no -- the fact is that the generic driver doesn't know whether it's thick or thin so it can't tell the manila scheduler20:16
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dustinsSo from what I'm reading, it looks like the generic share driver cannot report that it is capable of thin provisioning20:17
bswartzcurrently no20:18
bswartzdo you want to try to fix that?20:18
bswartzwhat's the use case?20:18
dustinsI want to test Thin Provisioning :P20:19
dustinsI suppose I could, but with the other drivers coming in, it might be more prudent to enable that in those, if it doesn't already exist20:19
openstackgerritAndrea Ma proposed openstack/manila: glusterManager instantiation regexp validation  https://review.openstack.org/28377720:20
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dustinsWe should, at least, update that driver matrix page to show which drivers support Thin Provisioning20:21
bswartzdustins: interesting point20:24
dustinsAnd is thin provisioning being tested in the gate somewhere? I haven't had a close look to be honest20:24
bswartzif you just want to test the filter it should be possible to hack the driver to return thin_provisioning=True/False20:24
bswartzdustins: we don't test specific extra_specs20:25
bswartzbecause all extra specs are treated the same by the cheduler20:25
bswartzscheduler20:25
bswartzhonestly IDK if we have any tests that test the scheduler's ability to filter by extra_specs or not -- if not, it's something we can and should add20:26
dustinsit looks like we have the CapabilitiesFilter available, no idea what the testing coverage of it is20:27
gouthamrhi bswartz: these two simple backports to stable/liberty need a +W: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280828/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280829/20:27
dustinsI'll be sure to look into that20:27
gouthamrdustins: unit test coverage exists.. no specific tempest tests.20:27
dustinsgouthamr: That's what I was afraid of20:27
dustinsThough it might be tough to test those features in a "generic" way20:28
dustinsDoesn't mean it shouldn't be done, but something to look at20:28
gouthamrdustins: it would be.. because these tests are expected to be run by vendor CIs as well, and capabilities reported could be different20:28
dustinsgouthamr: Indeed, though I imagine some sort of skip logic could be used to skip the tests that the backend under test does not support20:29
gouthamrdustins: that could work, but we have those skips for very specific things now.. what capabilities would you support testing for?20:30
gouthamrthanks bswartz20:30
dustinsgouthamr: Ideally all of them20:30
dustinsLooking at the support mapping matrix, it seems like each one of those columns could be a suite of tests that get run if the driver supports it and doesn't if not20:31
gouthamrdustins: a tempest configuration nightmare :P20:31
bswartzdustins: I'm in favor of more tests always -- I'll only push back if the tests are unreasonably slow or add unreasonable requirements20:31
dustinsWould be a pain to do in CI, though, due to all the reconfiguration20:31
bswartzwhat's needed is a general tests for extra_spec filtering -- we don't need to worry about specific extra specs20:32
gouthamrbswartz: we already do that with snapshot_support i think..20:32
dustinsWe should be sure that each driver vendor does their due diligence in making sure that their driver functions properly for the features that it supports20:33
bswartzdustins: that's a higher bar than what we aim for with tempest20:33
dustinsbswartz: Indeed, there's no real way to enforce it20:34
bswartztempest tests that manila works -- you're describing something more like a vendor certification test20:34
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dustinsVery true20:35
dustinsAt the least, I'll add a note to the next manila meeting to ask vendors to indicate their thin provisioning support in the support mapping20:35
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dustinsThanks for the help, bswartz and gouthamr!20:39
gouthamranytime dustins20:39
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bswartzdustins: still here?21:04
dustinsyup!21:04
bswartzdustins: did you notice that this patch slipped back into merge conflict? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188137/21:04
bswartzI'm going to try to fix it unless you'd rather do that21:04
dustins*sigh* yes I did21:04
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dustinsHave at it, I've got a fair bit on my plate right now21:05
dustinsIf you need a hand, let me know, though!21:05
bswartzokie dokie21:05
dustinsIt's the Patch that Shall not Merge :P21:05
bswartzhttp://tinyurl.com/pu6t7yo21:07
bswartzdustins: okay jenkins is running again -- I'll try to watch for fails21:09
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openstackgerritAndrea Ma proposed openstack/manila: glusterManager instantiation regexp validation  https://review.openstack.org/28377721:17
dustinsbswartz: I'll keep an eye out as well, thanks!21:18
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