Tuesday, 2016-02-09

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openstackgerritRodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: [Do not merge] Testing CI network for migration #3  https://review.openstack.org/27719000:06
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openstackgerritJohn Spray proposed openstack/manila: Add Ceph Native driver  https://review.openstack.org/27021102:10
openstackgerritJohn Spray proposed openstack/manila: Add Ceph Native driver  https://review.openstack.org/27021102:11
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openstackgerritRamana Raja proposed openstack/manila: Add Ceph Native driver  https://review.openstack.org/27021106:38
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rrajaganso: ping06:47
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openstackgerritRamana Raja proposed openstack/manila: Fix pep8 failure  https://review.openstack.org/27771007:11
openstackgerritRamana Raja proposed openstack/manila: Fix pep8 failure  https://review.openstack.org/27771007:15
rrajaThe pep8 CI job would fail due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1543434 . A fix has been posted.07:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1543434 in Manila "pep8: ./manila/utils.py:401:12: F821 undefined name 'file'" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Ramana Raja (rraja)07:17
rrajaignore the above. false alarm.07:21
openstackgerritMarcus Furlong proposed openstack/puppet-manila: fix type definition on liberty  https://review.openstack.org/27771207:22
openstackgerritMarcus Furlong proposed openstack/puppet-manila: fix type definition on liberty  https://review.openstack.org/27771507:26
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openstackgerritRamana Raja proposed openstack/manila: Add Ceph Native driver  https://review.openstack.org/27021107:36
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openstackgerritdaiki kato proposed openstack/python-manilaclient: Add missing element  https://review.openstack.org/27773008:24
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openstackgerritMarc Koderer proposed openstack/manila: [WIP] Add multi-segment support  https://review.openstack.org/27773108:31
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openstackgerritAlexey Ovchinnikov proposed openstack/manila: LXC/LXD driver  https://review.openstack.org/24575108:41
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rrajajcsp: ping09:50
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openstackgerritMarc Koderer proposed openstack/manila: [WIP] Add multi-segment support  https://review.openstack.org/27773110:01
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openstackgerritRamana Raja proposed openstack/manila: Add Ceph Native driver  https://review.openstack.org/27021111:00
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openstackgerritValeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: [DEBUG] test devstack for ZFSonLinux driver  https://review.openstack.org/27780311:59
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openstackgerritRodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: [Do not merge] Testing CI network for migration  https://review.openstack.org/27692212:38
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openstackgerritMarcus Furlong proposed openstack/puppet-manila: fix type definition on liberty  https://review.openstack.org/27771513:25
openstackgerritValeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: [DEBUG] test devstack for ZFSonLinux driver  https://review.openstack.org/27780313:28
openstackgerritJohn Spray proposed openstack/manila: Add Ceph Native driver  https://review.openstack.org/27021113:31
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openstackgerritRodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/python-manilaclient: Added new CLI commands for Share migration  https://review.openstack.org/25051813:44
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openstackgerritRodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: Add new Share migration API functions  https://review.openstack.org/25964215:04
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openstackgerritRodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: [Do not merge] Testing CI network for migration #2  https://review.openstack.org/27718716:03
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openstackgerritRodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: [Do not merge] Testing CI network for migration  https://review.openstack.org/27692216:12
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openstackgerritThomas Bechtold proposed openstack/manila: Update help text for some service instance config opts  https://review.openstack.org/25036016:34
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gansois gerrit unstable for anyone?17:10
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openstackgerritxing-yang proposed openstack/manila: Manage and unmanage snapshot  https://review.openstack.org/24954217:21
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit is restarting now, to alleviate current performance impact and WebUI errors.17:24
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openstackgerritValeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: [DEBUG] test devstack for ZFSonLinux driver  https://review.openstack.org/27780318:13
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xyang1cknight: around?18:16
cknightxyang1: Hi, Xing.18:16
xyang1cknight: hi, about your comments on my patch, i think the tempest test should work for other drivers18:17
xyang1cknight: because rest api only needs driver_options and only driver knows how to parse it18:18
cknightxyang1: So, for example, if my driver needs something like —driver_options "name=<snapname>", and another driver needs something else to uniquely identify the snapshot to be managed, how can Tempest do that?18:18
xyang1cknight: so I create a snapshot first, unmanage it and then manage again18:18
xyang1cknight: i am not giving that explicitly18:18
xyang1cknight: that is why I need the private data18:19
xyang1cknight: following manage share tempest test example18:19
xyang1cknight: create snapshot first18:19
xyang1cknight: so it already has the info18:19
cknightxyang1: So leaving the issue with returning private data aside for the moment, you would ask each driver to store something standard in the private data so the Tempest test would work universally?18:21
xyang1cknight: then unmanage it, when I manage it again18:21
xyang1cknight: probably does not need to be standard18:21
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xyang1cknight: just need to be in private data I think18:22
xyang1cknight: so when snapshot is created, info is saved in private data18:22
xyang1cknight: by driver18:22
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cknightxyang1: But then we're testing something that isn't part of the usual workflow.  A snapshot to be managed by an admin won't have any private data.18:23
vponomaryovxyang1: you mean you just need to provide the same thing as driver created for itself earlier?18:23
xyang1cknight: when i unmanage and manage again, driver should know how to get it again18:23
xyang1vponomaryov: yes18:24
xyang1cknight: ?18:24
vponomaryovxyang1: your driver(s) require it?18:24
xyang1vponomaryov: driver knows what keys to read18:24
vponomaryovxyang1: old name of snapshot based on its ID is not enough?18:25
vponomaryovxyang1: do you rename snapshot managing it?18:25
xyang1vponomaryov: no18:25
cknightxyang1: I understand how that tests the unmanage-manage workflow.  But that seems much less common than the manage workflow, where manila never saw the snapshot before.18:26
cknightvponomaryov: In my driver, yes, I would rename the snapshot to the driver's standard naming convention.18:26
vponomaryovcknight,  xyang1: looks liek we need agreement on rename/not rename thing18:27
vponomaryovmanaging share/snapshots18:27
cknightxyang1: I'm not at all sure how to test snapshot manage without the preceding unmanage operation, since each driver would need a unique piece of snapshot info.18:28
xyang1vponomaryov: I'll need to check that part18:28
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cknightxyang1: But you could write a negative test by creating a snapshot using manila, and then attempting to manage that; such a workflow should fail.18:28
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xyang1cknight: I added a negative test18:29
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xyang1cknight: you mean negative because it is already managed?18:30
cknightxyang1: yes18:30
xyang1cknight: ok, I can add that18:30
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cknightxyang1: But I don't know how to add a positive test for the common case, simply managing a previously unknown snapshot.  Maybe vponomaryov has an idea.18:31
xyang1cknight: so manage share test is like that.18:31
xyang1cknight: create, unmanage, then manage18:31
vponomaryovcknight: current manage tests in Tempest create everything and then do mange/unmanage stuff18:31
xyang1cknight: vponomaryov other ideas are welcome18:32
cknightxyang1: OK, fair enough.  But I discussed with vponomaryov and bswartz this morning, and we're agreed we shouldn't be returning driver private data via a tenant-facing REST API.18:32
xyang1cknight: ok, so how do I move forward18:32
cknightxyang1: Tenants should never see that kind of backend-specific details.18:32
cknightxyang1: Maybe an admin-only API specifically to get driver private data?18:33
vponomaryov cknight: manage is designed to be admin only ))18:33
xyang1cknight: add that in the same patch?18:34
xyang1cknight: vponomaryov what if I add context check for admin18:34
cknightvponomaryov: Yes, but this patch returns the private data in the GET /snapshots call.18:34
cknightxyang1: You could do that, but given the sensitivity, I'd suggest you get alignment first.18:35
xyang1vponomaryov: I added that in views18:35
bswartzwe have manage/unmanage tests for shares in tempest?18:35
vponomaryovcknight, xyang1: we can add such attr to admin view and hide for user18:35
vponomaryovbswartz: yes18:35
bswartzhow does it know what string to use for the manage?18:35
vponomaryovbswartz: it creates shares first18:36
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xyang1vponomaryov: export location is already visible?18:37
vponomaryovxyang1: it always was18:37
xyang1bswartz: Manage share needs export location which is already in views18:37
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bswartzis that how we prevent re-managing and already managed share too?18:38
bswartzs/and/an/18:38
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vponomaryov bswartz: yes18:39
bswartzin that case I would hope we could do something similar with snapshots18:40
vponomaryov bswartz: there is no EL for snapshots in Manila18:40
bswartzcan't we find a vendor neutral syntax for snapshot management and avoiding exposing the driver private data?18:40
bswartzI know18:40
vponomaryovso, proposal "we can add such attr to admin view and hide for user" is not desired?18:41
xyang1vponomaryov: sounds good to me.  bswartz cknight ?18:42
bswartzI know we discussed providing read-only access to driver private share data for admin only before, I'm not opposed to that18:42
cknightxyang1: So you would be returning driver private data for snapshots, but nothing else?  I'm not thrilled with the inconsistency.18:43
bswartzbut I would rather that snapshot manage/unmanage didn't depend on that in order to work18:43
cknightxyang1: A separate API would make that cleaner.18:43
cknightbswartz: +118:43
bswartzis it only the tests that require such information?18:43
xyang1bswartz: yes18:43
bswartzcan we add it as a separate feature then?18:43
xyang1bswartz: I need that for tempest18:44
xyang1bswartz: ?18:44
bswartzone API for manage, one for unmanage, and one for read private data?18:44
bswartzthen allow tempest to call them as needed?18:44
xyang1bswartz: in the same patch?18:44
bswartzwell ideally there would be 3 patches18:44
bswartz1) manage/unmanage feature18:44
bswartz2) read driver private data feature18:45
bswartz3) tests for manage/unamange18:45
bswartzif it's too much work to split it out then 1 patch would be okay I guess18:45
cknightbswartz: Why not 2 patches, your #2 and then #1/3 ?18:45
vponomaryov(2) and (1,3)18:45
vponomaryovcknight +118:45
xyang1bswartz: vponomaryov prefers tempest test in the same patch18:45
cknightvponomaryov: :-)18:45
bswartzokay that's fine too18:46
vponomaryovactually, it would be (2,3) and (1,3), where 3 is "some tempest tests"18:46
cknightvponomaryov: +118:46
cknightvponomaryov: Where is the check for export locations that prevent re-managing a share?  I'm having trouble finding it again, and I wonder if it was updated after we added the multiple export locations feature.18:47
bswartzI'm okay merging new features with as long as tests are proposed -- it doesn't matter to me that the patches are separate18:47
vponomaryovmanila/share/api18:47
xyang1patch 1: read driver private data, tempest for that18:48
xyang1patch 2: manage, unmanage and tempest for that18:48
vponomaryovcknight: https://github.com/openstack/manila/blob/b1b723ad0b8a61eef296977c03ef2bb244e90e27/manila/share/api.py#L38118:48
xyang1correct?  vponomaryov cknight bswartz ?18:48
xyang12 depends on 118:48
vponomaryovxyang1; yes18:49
xyang1cknight: bswartz ?18:49
cknightxyang1: I'm good with that, thanks.18:50
xyang1cknight: any other concerns that I have not addessed?  I added comments to your comments18:50
bswartzxyang1: yes that's fine18:51
cknightxyang1: Sorry, I haven't re-reviewed your latest fully.  I'll check that now.18:51
bswartzxyang1: I hope it's not a lot of work to split it18:51
xyang1cknight: np18:51
xyang1bswartz: a little tight now, I wish I brought this up at the midcycle18:52
vponomaryovI need to go, bye all18:52
xyang1vponomaryov: bye18:52
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cknightxyang1: There is still the question of what happens when managing a snapshot of a replicated share.  I don't know the best answer.  Since you need to work on the private data patch anyway, perhaps this is a good topic for the Thursday meeting.18:56
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cknightxyang1: But it'd be great to have a good answer to the question, even if it isn't implemented at first.18:57
bswartzxyang1: if it's easier for you, I would be okay with a big patch that does all of what we mentioned18:57
bswartzit's not like we would consider backporting the features18:57
bswartzcknight: we don't support managing of replicated shares at all (yet) IMO18:58
cknightbswartz: Fine, but this is about managing snapshots on already-replicated shares.  If we want to detect that and fail, OK.  But it shouldn't just proceed with undefined results.19:00
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xyang1cknight: what do we do with create snapshot?19:00
xyang1cknight: of replicated shar19:01
xyang1share19:01
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xyang1bswartz: cknight dropped off19:01
xyang1bswartz: one patch will be easier to manage:)19:01
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bswartzreplicated shares should have the same snapshots on all replicas19:02
bswartzso no matter which replicate you make the "active" one, you have all the snapshots manila knows about19:02
xyang1bswartz: I don't see any coding change on create snapshot that is why I am wondering19:03
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bswartzin the replication patch?19:03
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bswartzI think the manager at least passed more information to the driver on create snapshot19:03
xyang1bswartz: yes19:04
bswartzso the driver can do what it needs to do make sure the snapshot is everywhere it needs to be19:04
xyang1bswartz: cknight so should I fail manGe19:04
bswartzthere isn't much else to do in the code -- we should document more clearly though what the expectation for drivers is19:04
xyang1should I fail manage snapshot if it is replicated share?19:05
bswartzyeah I would say failure is fine if the share is replicated and someone attempts to manage a snapshot19:05
cknightsounds OK for now, yes19:05
bswartzit would be nice to have better behaviour, but that's only possible if you rebase your patch on top of replication19:05
xyang1bswartz: cknight can I add that after replication patch is in?19:05
cknightxyang1: makes sense.  you could handle that as a bug.19:06
bswartzyeah sure19:06
xyang1that will be much easier19:06
bswartzI'm not sure we call it a bug, but it can certainly be separate and we could grant and FFE if it's valuable but can't make the FF deadline19:07
xyang1bswartz: ok, thanks19:07
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openstackgerritRodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: [Do not merge] Testing CI network for migration #1  https://review.openstack.org/27692219:37
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openstackgerritRodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila: Implement update_access() method in generic driver  https://review.openstack.org/25628120:05
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openstackgerritValeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: [DEBUG] test devstack for ZFSonLinux driver  https://review.openstack.org/27780321:14
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openstackgerritValeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: [DEBUG] test devstack for ZFSonLinux driver  https://review.openstack.org/27780322:37
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openstackgerritShaun Edwards proposed openstack/manila: EMC Isilon Driver Support For NFS Read-Only Share  https://review.openstack.org/27109523:44
openstackgerritShaun Edwards proposed openstack/manila: EMC Isilon Driver Support For CIFS Read-Only Share  https://review.openstack.org/27814823:44
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