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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-manilaclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/244235 | 00:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/manila: Refactor HP 3PAR share driver to now be HPE https://review.openstack.org/240353 | 02:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | NidhiMittalHada proposed openstack/python-manilaclient: Allows type-create to return dict instead of list https://review.openstack.org/245731 | 04:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/manila: Prevent Share operations during share migration https://review.openstack.org/233052 | 05:22 |
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| nidhimittalhada | @vponomaryov1 | 06:22 |
| nidhimittalhada | manilaclient/common/constants.py" 82 | 06:23 |
| nidhimittalhada | in this file we used to keep max_api_version | 06:23 |
| nidhimittalhada | i kept it this way | 06:23 |
| nidhimittalhada | EXPERIMENTAL_HTTP_HEADER = 'X-OpenStack-Manila-API-Experimental' | 06:23 |
| nidhimittalhada | MAX_API_VERSION = '2.7' | 06:23 |
| nidhimittalhada | V1_API_VERSION = '1.0' | 06:23 |
| nidhimittalhada | V1_SERVICE_TYPE = 'share' | 06:23 |
| nidhimittalhada | V2_SERVICE_TYPE = 'sharev2' | 06:23 |
| nidhimittalhada | but now latest version of this file doesnt contain MAX_API_VERSION at all | 06:23 |
| nidhimittalhada | where can we keep this version now? | 06:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | NidhiMittalHada proposed openstack/python-manilaclient: API 'manage' can set share attr 'is_public' https://review.openstack.org/230963 | 07:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Silvan Kaiser proposed openstack/manila: Implements ensure_share() in Quobyte driver https://review.openstack.org/239686 | 10:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Igor Malinovskiy proposed openstack/manila: Add update_access() method to driver interface https://review.openstack.org/245126 | 10:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Silvan Kaiser proposed openstack/manila: Add share id to Quobyte backend volume name https://review.openstack.org/241671 | 11:13 |
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| gouthamr | vponomaryov: Would appreciate your input on this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246555/ | 13:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julia Varlamova proposed openstack/manila: Add LVM driver https://review.openstack.org/232970 | 13:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Silvan Kaiser proposed openstack/manila: Implements ensure_share() in Quobyte driver https://review.openstack.org/239686 | 14:09 |
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| vponomaryov | gouthamr: done | 15:04 |
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| gouthamr | thanks vponomaryov | 15:08 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz, cknight, markstur, toabctl: If you have time, please look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239689/ | 15:17 |
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| cknight | vponomaryov: OK | 15:18 |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov: I already looked at it | 15:22 |
| gouthamr | vponomaryov: how strongly do you feel against using function names as the action names for policy checking? wsgi does its routing based on function names :) | 15:23 |
| gouthamr | vponomaryov: reference: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246555/1/manila/api/openstack/wsgi.py #1145 | 15:24 |
| toabctl | vponomaryov: looks good. merging... | 15:24 |
| vponomaryov | gouthamr: routing can be set up to any variant in router.py module | 15:24 |
| toabctl | ah. bswartz started already the workflow :) | 15:25 |
| vponomaryov | cknight, bswartz, toabctl: thanks! | 15:25 |
| vponomaryov | gouthamr: absolutely any variant, wsgi just have defaults | 15:25 |
| gouthamr | vponomaryov: the idea was to allow common methods that most APIs implement -> 'create', 'delete', 'update', 'get', 'action' and such.. | 15:26 |
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| vponomaryov | gouthamr: such double approach lead to documenting improper thing - call without args | 15:27 |
| gouthamr | vponomaryov: args are implied in that case.. its the method being decorated.. | 15:27 |
| vponomaryov | gouthamr: exactly call without args - decorator() | 15:28 |
| gouthamr | vponomaryov: in most cases, we don't change the function names for CRUD ops.. | 15:28 |
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| vponomaryov | toabctl: why https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242960/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242957/ in separate commits? | 15:36 |
| vponomaryov | toabctl: maybe better to combine them? | 15:37 |
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| toabctl | vponomaryov: one is for stable/liberty | 15:37 |
| toabctl | vponomaryov: and I just followed the example given on the ML | 15:37 |
| vponomaryov | toabctl: oh, right | 15:37 |
| vponomaryov | didn't look at branch | 15:38 |
| toabctl | vponomaryov: tbh I don't understand the process completly yet. as I said, I followed the example and iirc this should be merged before mitaka-1 | 15:38 |
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| vponomaryov | toabctl: but then liberty branch requires original reno support anyway | 15:39 |
| vponomaryov | toabctl: same commit as for master | 15:39 |
| toabctl | vponomaryov: yes. I think that needs to be backported if merged in master. | 15:39 |
| vponomaryov | csaba: you have lots of commits, can you point to specific one that should be reviewed at first priority? | 15:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-manila: Bump UCA and RDO to Liberty GA https://review.openstack.org/241642 | 15:59 |
| vponomaryov | gouthamr: https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1492920 | 15:59 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1492920 in Manila " Consistency Group Support for the Generic Driver" [Undecided,New] | 15:59 |
| vponomaryov | gouthamr: what do you know about this? | 16:00 |
| gouthamr | vponomaryov: wrote that code.. | 16:01 |
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| gouthamr | vponomaryov: I guess 'DocImpact' wasn't needed? | 16:01 |
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| vponomaryov | gouthamr: no | 16:01 |
| gouthamr | vponomaryov: don't understand the bug though.. it says "This bug was created here because we did not know how to map the project name "openstack/manila" to a launchpad project name." | 16:02 |
| vponomaryov | gouthamr: each "DocImpact" autocreates bug for openstack-manuals project | 16:03 |
| vponomaryov | gouthamr: so, I guess, they considered it is invalid for their project and it means "DocImpact" is redundant | 16:03 |
| vponomaryov | gouthamr: so, I close this bug | 16:03 |
| gouthamr | vponomaryov: oh. yes. sure. | 16:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Clinton Knight proposed openstack/manila: Modified last sync from oslo-incubator https://review.openstack.org/247003 | 16:04 |
| gouthamr | vponomaryov: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219891/3..1//COMMIT_MSG | 16:05 |
| cknight | vponomaryov, u_glide1: This is the oslo incubator sync for Manila, minus the file Igor had modified. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247003/ | 16:05 |
| cknight | vponomaryov, u_glide1: Need this so I can refactor capabilities_filter to accept lists. | 16:06 |
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| cknight | vponomaryov, u_glide1: I also need to pull the unit tests for the files we got from the incubator, since we own them now. That's a separate patch. | 16:06 |
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| vponomaryov | gouthamr: it should have been added to dev docs , which are located in manila repo | 16:13 |
| vponomaryov | gouthamr: it has nothing for DocImpact | 16:13 |
| gouthamr | vponomaryov: makes sense. I can close that bug with a dev docs patch | 16:14 |
| vponomaryov | cknight: when do you plan to port tests? | 16:14 |
| vponomaryov | gouthamr: already set as invalid )) | 16:14 |
| gouthamr | vponomaryov: alright, new bug then. | 16:14 |
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| cknight | vponomaryov: soon :-) But there are more files from the incubator that just what we got in the last sync, so I figured that would be a separate effort. Doing the sync now doesn't reduce our coverage. | 16:15 |
| vponomaryov | gouthamr: you can modify description in this one | 16:15 |
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| vponomaryov | gouthamr: then we change status to correct one | 16:15 |
| gouthamr | vponomaryov: sure thing | 16:16 |
| cknight | vponomaryov: some of the unit tests don't mirror the directory/file structure of the code, so I'm wondering if I should fix that at the same time. | 16:16 |
| gouthamr | vponomaryov: thanks for the heads up. will change it. | 16:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: Improve Tempest tests for consistency groups https://review.openstack.org/247052 | 17:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: Improve Tempest tests for consistency groups https://review.openstack.org/247052 | 17:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: Improve Tempest tests for consistency groups https://review.openstack.org/247052 | 17:25 |
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| ganso | bswartz: ping | 18:10 |
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| bswartz | ganso: pong | 18:50 |
| ganso | bswartz: Hi | 18:51 |
| ganso | bswartz: I am moving migration code to data copy service | 18:51 |
| ganso | bswartz: now is the time that we will need network expertise | 18:52 |
| ganso | bswartz: this code https://github.com/openstack/manila/blob/8247f350af7db639581c58e274e63463afe544c2/manila/share/drivers/generic.py#L218 will no longer work | 18:52 |
| ganso | bswartz: because the machine copying data may not be the same running the driver anymore | 18:52 |
| ganso | bswartz: for DHSS=true drivers, every share server in each share network need to be accessible by the data copy service node... currently the drivers themselves are responsible for obtaining the IP that allows such connectivity | 18:54 |
| ganso | bswartz: I think we need to discuss some approaches that may be more feasible... like an admin creating a fixed neutron port that connects any share server (if such thing is possible), or if drivers create VIFs for each share server... or admin-network facing export locations... | 18:55 |
| bswartz | ganso: I agree that the admin-facing network stuff is fairly urgent | 18:57 |
| bswartz | ganso: is that something you're interested in tackling yourself or do you need help? | 18:58 |
| bswartz | I'll work with whoever is willing to do it, and if there's no volunteers I'll designate someone | 18:58 |
| ganso | bswartz: any network help is much appreciated... like whoever designed the VIFs code for the generic driver may be able to help | 18:59 |
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| ganso | bswartz: my favorite approach is a single dedicated neutron port for data copy service node... if that is possible | 19:00 |
| ganso | bswartz: this may be something we can discuss on tomorrow's meeting | 19:00 |
| ganso | bswartz: I can draw a diagram | 19:01 |
| bswartz | well what I envision is pretty simply actually | 19:01 |
| bswartz | at least, my vision for the driver interface in the share manager | 19:01 |
| bswartz | how drivers implement it could end up being complicated, but in the general case it shouldn't be | 19:01 |
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| ganso | bswartz: what would be the general case? | 19:03 |
| ganso | bswartz: I think we still prefer involving drivers as less as possible | 19:03 |
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| bswartz | ganso: so my proposal is simple | 19:08 |
| bswartz | ganso: any driver that support share servers needs to ensure that it creates an additional network interface, reachable from the admin network | 19:09 |
| bswartz | most likely we'll need to add a configuration parameter to allow admin to specify how drivers should obtain IP addresses and network details for that network | 19:09 |
| bswartz | but it will ultimately look a lot like the existing share network code | 19:10 |
| ganso | bswartz: one VIF per share server approach. That would make the current code I linked above compatible. The difference is that the service_ip would be that VIF ip, instead of the VIF that connects back to manila-share node | 19:10 |
| bswartz | then, every share created by share-server drivers will need to create an additional export location, tagged as admin-only | 19:10 |
| bswartz | and the migration code will use those admin export locations | 19:11 |
| bswartz | we would want to make sure the admin export locations were hidden from non-admins | 19:11 |
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| ganso | bswartz: extra export locations may not be necessary, as they are not today | 19:17 |
| bswartz | well I like the idea of the driver telling manila what is the best way to access shares for administrative purposes | 19:17 |
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| ganso | bswartz: a code that is able to interpret several ways a driver may tell the manager is probably more complex than a way we enforce (if it works for all vendors) | 19:19 |
| ganso | bswartz: this is the main reason I haven't gone down that road | 19:19 |
| ganso | bswartz: and also that we haven't had vendors input on this | 19:19 |
| ganso | bswartz: so far | 19:19 |
| bswartz | ganso: The goal of this change is to force standardization so it's easier from yourside | 19:20 |
| bswartz | if we implement this new interface, then the migration code only has 2 paths -- share-servers and no-share-servers | 19:21 |
| ganso | bswartz: that path is related to obtaining the IP the data copy service should mount, and which IP to allow access (data copy service node's). Both are already in the driver interface to be overriden | 19:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-manilaclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/244235 | 19:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/manila: Port admin actions extension to core API https://review.openstack.org/239689 | 19:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/manila: Port share type extensions to core API https://review.openstack.org/239913 | 20:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/manila: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/246095 | 20:39 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/manila: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/246095 | 20:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-manilaclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/247156 | 20:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clinton Knight proposed openstack/manila: Last sync to Manila from oslo-incubator https://review.openstack.org/247003 | 20:55 |
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| csaba | bswartz: ping | 21:06 |
| bswartz | csaba: pong | 21:07 |
| csaba | bswartz: hi Ben, I'm sorry if missed an official announcement on this, but has the feature proposal deadline for Mitaka been decided? | 21:08 |
| bswartz | csaba: it's still 2 weeks before M-3, so I would say ~ Feb 18 most likely | 21:11 |
| bswartz | however we agreed that for BIG features we need to see WIP code long before then | 21:11 |
| bswartz | we just never agreed on the specifics | 21:11 |
| csaba | bswartz: yeah, I remember that, that's why I'm asking | 21:12 |
| bswartz | csaba: did you have any big new features in mind? | 21:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Sturdevant proposed openstack/manila: HPE3PAR Add support for access-level (ro,rw) https://review.openstack.org/245383 | 21:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/manila: Added CONTRIBUTING file in .rst format https://review.openstack.org/245575 | 21:13 |
| csaba | bswartz: of RH originated contributions, probably the upcoming Ceph driver can qualify as such | 21:14 |
| bswartz | yes but drivers are inherently low risk | 21:14 |
| bswartz | if it's a large patch we'll probably want an earlier deadline just because of the size and time to review, but if it's not a core feature I'm less worried | 21:15 |
| bswartz | what RH submissions are likely to affect the Manila core in Mitaka? | 21:15 |
| csaba | yeah that's why I thought it's indeed still not "big" | 21:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: Add new URLs for APIs ported from extensions https://review.openstack.org/240220 | 21:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila: [TEST] Run Tempest with v2.6 having v2.7 https://review.openstack.org/241311 | 21:16 |
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| csaba | bswartz: other question: does Mitaka-{1,2} have any significance | 21:17 |
| csaba | ? | 21:17 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: two weeks before M-3 is deadline for new feature submission? that is the same as what we had in Liberty | 21:17 |
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| bswartz | csaba: those are just milestones that we use to target blueprints that will be ready for release early | 21:18 |
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| csaba | bswartz: OK, thamks | 21:18 |
| bswartz | xyang1: yes the plan keep the existing deadline and add an additional earlier deadline for big stuff | 21:18 |
| bswartz | xyang1: we still haven't decided how to define "big" and how much earlier those submissions need to be | 21:18 |
| bswartz | xyang1: I put it on the agenda for tomorrow though | 21:19 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: ok | 21:19 |
| bswartz | xyang1: do you have any ideas? | 21:19 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: I thought we discussed about an earlier merge deadline for core features | 21:20 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: driver is different | 21:20 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: driver can get merged until M-3 | 21:20 |
| bswartz | xyang1: what I wanted to to require that there's a WIP submission for core features by some earlier date, but not to necessarily change the merge deadline | 21:20 |
| bswartz | because for large new features, there could be many iterations of reviews and patches | 21:21 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: that is true | 21:21 |
| bswartz | as long as that process starts early enough, I see no reason to force it to end before a specific date | 21:21 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: we need to have a deadline for early submission then | 21:22 |
| bswartz | yeah that's my thinking | 21:22 |
| bswartz | maybe for patches that add more than 500 lines of new code (not counting refactors that add and delete lots of lines but it's all just moved around) that we require WIP by M-2 date | 21:23 |
| bswartz | so we have 5 weeks to review instead of 2 weeks | 21:23 |
| bswartz | actually 6 weeks because M-3 is that long | 21:24 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: sure | 21:24 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/manila: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/246095 | 21:24 |
| bswartz | although we could pick some later date that's M3 minus 4 weeks or 5 weeks | 21:24 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: a big refactor could be painful to review too | 21:24 |
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| xyang1 | bswartz: vponomaryov has complained about it:) | 21:25 |
| bswartz | refactors take time to review but require nowhere near as many iterations as new core features | 21:25 |
| bswartz | the concern is how many times the cycle needs to be repeated | 21:25 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: I would actually suggest a big driver refactor to be submitted and reviewed as a new driver | 21:26 |
| bswartz | big reviews are always painful but refactors tend to go more quickly because it's just comparing the old to the new and looking for bugs | 21:26 |
| bswartz | xyang1: we don't have any special deadlines for new drivers though... | 21:26 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: yes | 21:26 |
| bswartz | if a reviewer wants to look at it like a new driver, then that's fine | 21:27 |
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| bswartz | I know some people prefer to review large refactors by just pulling the change and reviewing the whole file (without looking at the old file) | 21:27 |
| bswartz | would making people submit those refactor patches earlier really save us any pain? or would it just shift it earlier? | 21:28 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: do you suggest a new driver to be submitted 2weeks before M-3 | 21:28 |
| bswartz | xyang1: that's what we did for Liberty, and the new drivers didn't cause problems like the new features did | 21:29 |
| bswartz | I'm open to doing it differently | 21:30 |
| bswartz | I just want to make sure we're solving a real problem | 21:30 |
| bswartz | the big pain for me was cgroups and migration | 21:30 |
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| xyang1 | bswartz: true, I don't remember if a new driver was submitted that late | 21:31 |
| bswartz | glusterfs native was the last drier to come in IIRC | 21:31 |
| bswartz | driver | 21:31 |
| bswartz | and it was right at the deadline | 21:31 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: I thought that was some driver enhancement rather than a brand new driver, I could be wrong | 21:32 |
| bswartz | it sounds like redhat is trying to decide when to submit the cephfs driver -- if we don't want it on Feb 18 then we should agree on when we want to see it and let redhat know what the deadline is | 21:33 |
| bswartz | xyang1: you might be right | 21:33 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: ok | 21:33 |
| bswartz | there were several driver enhancement patches for the glusterfs native driver though | 21:34 |
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