Thursday, 2015-07-09

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openstackgerritMatt Fischer proposed openstack/puppet-manila: fix module install reference  https://review.openstack.org/19981101:16
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openstackgerritxing-yang proposed openstack/manila: Support for oversubscription in thin provisioning  https://review.openstack.org/19204402:08
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openstackgerritXiaohua Yuan proposed openstack/puppet-manila: Move rabbit/amqp_durable_queues setting to oslo_messaging_rabbit section  https://review.openstack.org/19983702:52
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openstackgerritzhaohua proposed openstack/manila: Huawei manila driver support multi RestURLs  https://review.openstack.org/19782803:31
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openstackgerritjay.xu proposed openstack/manila: EMC VNX: Fix the total capacity for dynamic Pool  https://review.openstack.org/19053305:19
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openstackgerritPeter Wang proposed openstack/manila: Add access-level support in VNX Manila driver  https://review.openstack.org/19992907:41
openstackgerritPeter Wang proposed openstack/manila: Add access-level support in VNX Manila driver  https://review.openstack.org/19992907:42
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openstackgerritzhaohua proposed openstack/manila: Huawei manila driver support multi RestURLs  https://review.openstack.org/19782809:54
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openstackgerritPeter Wang proposed openstack/manila: Add access-level support in VNX Manila driver  https://review.openstack.org/19992911:16
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openstackgerritzhaohua proposed openstack/manila: Huawei manila driver support multi RestURLs  https://review.openstack.org/19782812:03
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack/puppet-manila: Prepare 6.0.0 release  https://review.openstack.org/20006313:00
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lpabonbswartz: ping14:33
bswartzlpabon: pong14:33
lpabonQuick question (i've been out for a little while).  Is manila going to support shrink volume size?14:33
lpabonnot only expand?14:33
bswartzlpabon: yes14:33
bswartztoabctl: ping14:34
lpabonah ok.  Do all drivers need to support that?14:34
toabctlbswartz: hey14:34
toabctlbswartz: back since today :)14:34
bswartzwb!14:34
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bswartztoabctl: I just became aware of this change: https://github.com/openstack/manila-ui/commit/9a4769dbb0c9e18d49a064acdf8df99dd0727f9614:34
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bswartzmy question for you is, does this change require some new horizon feature from liberty? or can we backport it to kilo?14:35
toabctlbswartz: I think that works for Kilo (maybe even Juno). let me check....14:36
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bswartztoabctl: no way it works for juno -- the plugin feature was implemented late in kilo14:36
vponomaryovbswartz: manila-ui does not have juno branch antway14:38
vponomaryov*anyway14:38
lpabonbswartz: vponomaryov: On resize, is it defined by manila if the volume can go offline while resizing?  I'm just asking while reviewing the generic driver shrink patch14:39
bswartzvponomaryov, toabctl: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200130/14:39
vponomaryovlpabon: it just should be documented14:40
bswartzlpabon: yes unfortunately some drivers have to disconnect the share briefly to expand/shrink14:40
bswartzit's something that should be avoided but in the case of generic it seems unavoidable14:40
bswartzlpabon: if you have an idea for how to implement it without that limitation please suggest an enhancement!14:41
lpabonbswartz: np, but i agree with vponomaryov, it probably should be noted in the API what the expected behavior should be.14:41
bswartzlpabon: I interpreted vponomaryov's comment to mean documented in the driver docs14:42
lpabonFrom a user standpoint (not as a storage developer), I wouldn't want to have my volume go offline while it being resized, but the reality is that different implementations may do different things14:42
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lpabonah, yes, that should be noted there.  But quick question.. If an admin has multiple driver vendors providing manila shares to users...14:43
lpabonThe users of the shares may get incosistent behavior while resizing volumes14:43
bswartzI agree, I'm not thrilled about it14:44
bswartzbut I don't see an alternative14:44
bswartzno implementing expand doesn't make sense (not implementing shrink I could live with)14:44
bswartzand the generic driver needs to implement all the features14:44
lpabonyeah, just thinking about the user experience when some of their shares have different behaviors..14:45
lpabonbut i agree, i am not sure of the answer, unless we say that resizing a share WILL make them offline until resize has finished14:46
lpabonthat would guarantee behavior, but may make some vendors concerned that their feature is not reflected accordingly14:46
lpabonWhat happens today on Cinder resize of volume?  Is it an online or offline operation?14:47
vponomaryovlpabon: detach / resize, reattach14:48
lpabonah ok, so it is expected to go offline14:48
lpabonMy $0.02 opinion, is that the expected behavior should be the same across Manila shares resize operations14:49
vponomaryovit is eisier for Cinder because volumes attached only to one VM14:49
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lpabonSo it would be expected to go offline14:49
lpabonvponomaryov: yeah, Cinder always has it easier :-D, but I think understanding and having behavior expectation is really important14:49
bswartzlpabon: the problem is that nearly all the other (non-generic) backends can easily resize online14:50
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bswartzand it's a much better user experience to resize online14:50
lpabonbswartz: i think the real problem is that *nearly* is not all14:50
bswartzyes14:50
bswartzthus my ask for a possible solution to make this better in generic14:50
lpaboni think if all supported that the expected behavior is corrct14:50
lpaboni think until that is done, the expected behavior should be to have the mount go offline until all drivers can support the same behavior14:51
vponomaryovbswartz: it means make better Cinder =)14:51
bswartzvponomaryov: that's no the only way14:52
bswartznot*14:52
bswartzwe could use a filesystem that supported online size changes inside the generic driver14:52
bswartznowhere is it written that we're stuck with the limitation of ext414:52
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u_glidebswartz: fs change doesn't help, because it's cinder requirement14:58
bswartzu_glide: I can imagine ways to work around that14:59
bswartzlike combining multiple cinder volumes with RAID014:59
bswartzbut it would be added complexity14:59
u_glideactually new linux kernels and ext4 support online resizing15:00
bswartzu_glide: how new exactly?15:01
bswartzdon't want something too new15:01
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u_glidebswartz: 2.6+ :)15:02
* lpabon had to restart router.. >:-\15:03
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/puppet-manila: Move rabbit/amqp_durable_queues setting to oslo_messaging_rabbit section  https://review.openstack.org/19983715:10
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openstackgerritPetrut Lucian proposed openstack/manila: Add Windows SMB share driver  https://review.openstack.org/20015415:41
lpetrut1Hi guys. I just submited a first draft for the Windows SMB share driver implementation. I would be very thankfull if anyone could take a look. I've marked it as WIP as I have to add unit tests15:45
bswartztoabctl: looks like my cherrypick of your change is unclean or the kilo branch might be broken https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200130/15:48
bswartzlpetrut1: that's great!15:48
toabctlbswartz: hm. seems to be a problem with pbr15:50
bswartztoabctl: is it obvious to you what the problem is? I can debug this but help is appreciated15:53
ganso_u_glide: ping16:00
bswartztoabctl: do we need to change setup.cfg to have a 1.0.1 version to make pbr happy?16:01
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toabctlbswartz: good question. I don't know...16:03
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openstackgerritBen Swartzlander proposed openstack/manila-ui: Update version to 1.0.1  https://review.openstack.org/20016616:07
bswartztoabctl: ^16:07
openstackgerritPetrut Lucian proposed openstack/manila: Add Windows SMB share driver  https://review.openstack.org/20015416:08
ganso_u_glide: Hi, I am off work today, I reviewed your share instances PoC, I still need to test fetch and test it with share migration. There is one item that is not clear to me, I left a comment in gerrit change.16:09
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/puppet-manila: Prepare 6.0.0 release  https://review.openstack.org/20006316:26
toabctlbswartz: hm. patch is in merge conflict now16:29
toabctlbswartz: I'll have a look tomorrow...16:29
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lpetrut1 vponomaryov: Thanks a lot for taking the time to review the Windows driver implementation16:52
vponomaryovlpetrut1: you inherit generic driver, but have you tested all inherited things?16:53
vponomaryovlpetrut1: like manage/unmanage, etc?16:53
vponomaryovlpetrut1:  different networking configurations?16:54
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lpetrut1vponomaryov: the manage/unmanage operation is one of the operations that I haven't tested yet. At some point, I was raising NotImplementedError in this case but it seems that this slipped way from the code. At the moment, I've tested the basic operations, including AD integration and setting permissions. I thought about sending the implementation as it is now just to see if I'm on the right track. I'm going to make sure that all the features suppo17:10
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bswartzmarkstur: ping18:27
marksturbswartz, pong18:27
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bswartzxyang_ xyang1: ping18:55
xyang_bswartz: hi18:56
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bswartzmarkstur xyang_ toabctl cknight: please take another look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200130/ which is a backport to make installing manila-ui much easier (original change should have been a bugfix because the install method is broken in kilo)19:17
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xyang_bswartz: sure19:20
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openstackgerritBen Swartzlander proposed openstack/manila-ui: Switch to post-versioning  https://review.openstack.org/20023419:52
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openstackgerritxing-yang proposed openstack/manila: Change "volume" to "share" in filter and weigher  https://review.openstack.org/20024320:27
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openstackgerritxing-yang proposed openstack/manila: Change "volume" to "share" in filter and weigher  https://review.openstack.org/20024320:44
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