Tuesday, 2017-12-05

openstackgerritMorgan Fainberg proposed openstack/keystone master: WIP: Remove Dependency Injection  https://review.openstack.org/49970300:04
kmalloclbragstad, ayoung: there we go, that should do it for at least py2700:05
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openstackgerritMorgan Fainberg proposed openstack/keystone master: WIP: Remove Dependency Injection  https://review.openstack.org/49970300:32
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openstackgerritwangxiyuan proposed openstack/keystone master: Correct error message for request token  https://review.openstack.org/52508800:53
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lbragstadkmalloc: nice01:27
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Implement system-scope in the token provider API  https://review.openstack.org/52536001:29
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lbragstadayoung: i attempted to fill in the description here - https://trello.com/c/Mm6GGQ8Q/83-use-oslo-context-for-policy-enforcement01:39
lbragstadlet me know if that is missing anything01:39
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/keystonemiddleware master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/52373703:07
openstackgerritwangxiyuan proposed openstack/keystone-specs master: Limits API  https://review.openstack.org/45570903:26
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-keystoneclient master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/52379203:32
openstackgerritayoung proposed openstack/keystone master: Enforce policy on oslo-context  https://review.openstack.org/52365003:37
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ayoungjamielennox, you happy with https://review.openstack.org/523650 ?03:49
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jamielennoxayoung: sure04:33
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openstackgerritGage Hugo proposed openstack/keystone master: WIP - Make fernet config and utils generic  https://review.openstack.org/52320006:05
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openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: WIP: Implement system-scoped tokens  https://review.openstack.org/52568716:52
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openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Add group system grant policies  https://review.openstack.org/51472516:55
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Implement controller logic for system user assignments  https://review.openstack.org/51521516:55
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Implement controller logic for system group assignments  https://review.openstack.org/52401716:55
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Add system role assignment documentation  https://review.openstack.org/52430716:55
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Add ability to list all system role assignments  https://review.openstack.org/52440716:55
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Ensure building scope is mutually exclusive  https://review.openstack.org/49809116:55
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Remove private methods for v2.0 and v3 tokens  https://review.openstack.org/52532916:55
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Teach TokenFormatter how to handle system scope  https://review.openstack.org/52533016:55
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Implement system-scope in the token provider API  https://review.openstack.org/52536016:55
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: WIP: Implement system-scoped tokens  https://review.openstack.org/52568716:55
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Add scope_types to endpoint policies  https://review.openstack.org/52569517:08
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Add scope_types to service policies  https://review.openstack.org/52569617:09
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Add scope_types to region policies  https://review.openstack.org/52569817:10
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Add scope_types to endpoint group policies  https://review.openstack.org/52570017:12
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openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Add scope_types to mapping policies  https://review.openstack.org/52570117:14
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Add scope_types to role policies  https://review.openstack.org/52570317:18
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Add scope_types to domain policies  https://review.openstack.org/52570517:20
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openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Add scope_types to group policies  https://review.openstack.org/52570617:22
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Add scope_types to credential policies  https://review.openstack.org/52570717:24
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hrybackilbragstad: https://hangouts.google.com/call/-WQa70V_B5iL-Tw3jiSqAAEE17:58
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lbragstad#startmeeting keystone-office-hours19:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Dec  5 19:00:53 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'keystone_office_hours'19:00
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cmurphyo/19:07
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lbragstadi need to get up to speed on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/522461/19:12
cmurphylbragstad: this one goes with that one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523005/19:15
lbragstadi just noticed that, too19:15
lbragstadgetting up to speed on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523005 first19:15
lbragstadaha- ok19:17
lbragstadnevermind, i think i was getting things mixed up19:17
lbragstadwe should be able to remove https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52300519:18
lbragstads/remove/merge/19:18
gagehugoo/19:18
lbragstadbecause it's only removing the usage of those configuration options and removing a couple things we don't need anymore19:18
lbragstadwhich can be done before we deprecate those configuration options19:18
cmurphyright it's just removing a function that never gets called19:19
kmalloci don't understand how someone might still be using it in v3?19:19
kmalloclbragstad: the memberid thing19:19
lbragstadapproving https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523005/19:20
cmurphyensure_default_role() gets called in bootstrap which creates the _member_ role19:20
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cmurphythat's the only place it's actually used19:20
lbragstadyeah - iiuc a deployment can run bootstrap and then start using the member id with v3 assignments, and not even expose v2.0 in the deployment19:22
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lbragstadcmurphy: edmondsw boostrap was designed to be idempotent for recovery cases19:26
lbragstadso it could be used outside of install day activities19:27
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edmondswlbragstad how so?19:27
edmondswwhat kind of recovery?19:28
cmurphylosing the _member_ role could be recovered from without bootstrap19:28
lbragstadif an admin user is deleted, i think19:28
lbragstadwe had a commit a while back to do this, let me see if i can dig up the context19:28
edmondswto cmurphy's point, I don't think this bit about _member_ would be needed for that case19:29
lbragstadhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/164780019:31
openstackLaunchpad bug 1647800 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) newton "keystone-manage bootstrap isn't completely idempotent" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Lance Bragstad (lbragstad)19:31
lbragstadthat specific example is for running bootstrap during an upgrade19:33
lbragstadmaybe it's irrelevant19:33
cmurphylbragstad: what would you like to see in 522461? you want bootstrap to keep creating the role?19:34
lbragstadi guess i wanted to make sure we didn't break anything if we wanted to remove it19:35
lbragstadoutside of the new install case19:35
cmurphymy main worry is in deployment tool CI19:35
lbragstadi was trying to think of times bootstrap gets run outside of new-install cases19:36
lbragstadand i vaguely remembered that change, but it might not be relevant19:36
cmurphyon upgrade cases people are reading the release notes anyways19:36
cmurphyso they'll know if they have to do something different19:36
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.policy master: Handle deprecation of inspect.getargspec  https://review.openstack.org/52197919:37
openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack/keystone master: Handle deprecation of inspect.getargspec  https://review.openstack.org/52574019:43
lbragstadfwiw - we'll have a new version of oslo.policy soon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525623/119:46
lbragstadso all https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/keystone+branch:master+topic:add-scope-types should start passing19:48
cmurphy\o/19:50
lbragstadopinion time - do we want to hold off on https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1689644 until we do microversions officially?19:57
openstackLaunchpad bug 1689644 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "Keystone does not report microversion headers" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Rohan Arora (ra271w)19:57
lbragstadknikolla: you said you have something locally for https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1291157 right?19:58
openstackLaunchpad bug 1291157 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "idp deletion should trigger token revocation" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Lance Bragstad (lbragstad)19:58
knikollalbragstad: yes, rebased the old review, now getting it to pass tests19:58
lbragstadknikolla: awesome19:59
lbragstadknikolla: thanks for picking that up19:59
cmurphylbragstad: i think that bug is not really valid, if/when we do microversions then a condition of that being done is having microversion headers19:59
lbragstadwe can probably close out https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1662623 today20:00
openstackLaunchpad bug 1662623 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "Testing keystone docs are outdated" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Lance Bragstad (lbragstad)20:00
lbragstadcmurphy: yeah... after all the ms discussions, i inclined to agree with you20:00
lbragstadi'm inclined*20:00
lbragstadcmurphy: close with a comment?20:01
cmurphysure20:02
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openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack/keystone master: WIP Add Application Credentials manager  https://review.openstack.org/52474720:06
openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack/keystone master: WIP Add Application Credentials controller  https://review.openstack.org/52442320:06
openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack/keystone master: WIP Add application credential auth plugin  https://review.openstack.org/52534620:06
lbragstadanother opinion question - what are peoples thoughts on https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1642988 ?20:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1642988 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "Optionally encode project IDs in fernet tokens" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Jose Castro Leon (jose-castro-leon)20:08
lbragstadit doesn't impact API behavior20:08
lbragstadand it's opt in for deployers to migrate to fernet20:09
lbragstad(or jwt eventually)20:09
lbragstadi know cern has project ids that vary in format20:10
gagehugois it because of the dashes?20:10
lbragstadyeah20:10
lbragstadso when the project id get reinflated20:10
lbragstadit gets reinflated without the dashes20:10
lbragstadbut their backend expects it20:10
lbragstads/it/dashes/20:11
lbragstadso aa53ea1a-d9f8-11e7-957d-00163e88ac80 instead of abf4be76d9f811e7957d00163e88ac8020:13
gagehugoUUID spec says the dashes are optional right?20:14
lbragstadthat's a good question, i'd have to check20:14
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cmurphyseems like they could extend the token provider to handle it?20:16
lbragstadthat was our original suggestion back to them20:16
ayoungjamielennox, cmurphy lbragstad can we put oslo-context  to rest? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523650/20:16
lbragstadfor example - http://cdn.pasteraw.com/htn79m729bk6wuikvgkwaj96phsozsi20:16
cmurphyi'm not seeing whether they objected to that idea20:18
lbragstadi don't see KwozyMan or jose-castro-leon online either20:19
cmurphyayoung: looking again20:19
ayoungcmurphy, thanks.  Much smaller now20:20
lbragstadayoung: once we get a new version of oslo.policy - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/keystone+branch:master+topic:add-scope-types should start passing20:20
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ayounglbragstad, cool.  THe policy patch got approved, right?20:20
lbragstadoslo.policy patch?20:21
lbragstadyes?20:21
gagehugoyeah I like the token provider extension20:21
lbragstadayoung: waiting on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525623/120:21
lbragstadcmurphy: gagehugo we should update the bug report then20:21
ayounglbragstad, of course....20:21
gagehugook20:21
ayounglbragstad, needs one more +2?20:21
lbragstadfrom requirements, yes20:22
lbragstadi think so20:22
ayounglbragstad, I only saw a requirements-stable-core group there, but it is roughly the same set of reviewers20:24
ayoungdims, can you +2 A that one20:25
ayounghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/525623/120:25
lbragstadayoung: i think dims is at kubecon this week20:25
lbragstadparticipating in container-things20:25
ayoungalmost certainly20:25
lbragstadayoung: you weighed in on https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1642988 once20:26
openstackLaunchpad bug 1642988 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "Optionally encode project IDs in fernet tokens" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Jose Castro Leon (jose-castro-leon)20:26
lbragstadthink that is too specific to carry upstream?20:26
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lbragstadcmurphy: wxy fwiw - i'm going to try and spend the last hour of office hours proposing the rest of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524657/20:34
lbragstadoh - actually, it looks like wxy propose a version of that specification with limit IDs20:35
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lbragstadkmalloc: cmurphy wxy question on unified limits20:55
lbragstadwe have registered limits and project limits20:55
kmallocyeah20:56
lbragstadthoughts on splitting them into their own specs?20:56
cmurphywhy?20:56
lbragstadwell - registered limits needs to be done first regardless20:56
kmallocwhy?20:56
kmallocwhat cmurphy said20:56
kmalloc:P20:56
lbragstadbecause project limits always act as overrides?20:56
cmurphydo registered limits have any value if there isn't also project limits?20:57
lbragstadkinda the other way around IMO20:57
kmalloci don't think anyone would use registered limits without project limits20:57
lbragstadyou can't use project limits with a registered limit, at least that how i understand things20:58
ayoungcmurphy, TYVM20:58
cmurphyayoung: YW20:58
cmurphylbragstad: you need to have a registered limit in order for the project limit to override it20:58
cmurphyproject limits are invalid if there's nothing registered20:59
lbragstadoh - sorry, s/with/without/20:59
lbragstadyes20:59
cmurphyoh yes20:59
lbragstadi'm bad at typing lately20:59
cmurphylol20:59
cmurphyregistered limits have to be done first yes but they're not useful without project limits20:59
lbragstadyeah21:00
lbragstadok - so another question21:00
lbragstadproject limits will always require a project21:00
kmallocyes21:00
lbragstaddo we put the project in the request body or the path?21:00
kmalloceh, either/or21:01
lbragstadPOST /limits/{project_id} or just POST /limits with the project id in the body21:01
cmurphyi think POST /limits is more rest-y?21:01
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kmalloccmurphy: ++21:01
kmallocthe get /limits/{project_id} is the reference to the id21:02
lbragstadok - that current proposal im reviewing has POST /limits with option project id in the request body21:02
kmallocyeah21:02
kmallocthat sounds fin21:02
kmalloce21:02
cmurphyyeah that makes sense to me21:02
lbragstadok21:02
lbragstadcool21:02
lbragstadactually, the current proposal uses the project id from the request context...21:04
lbragstadwhich makes sense, too21:04
kmallocthat is also fine21:06
kmallocbut the post with the body makes more sense21:06
kmallocsince switching scope ... may be painful21:06
kmallocespecially with say... admin RBAC future looking21:06
cmurphyyeah i feel like it should be explicit in the body21:07
cmurphyanyone want to push https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524882 through (or know why that happens?)21:09
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lbragstadcmurphy: done - and that also beats me21:16
lbragstadseams like a system level thing?21:16
lbragstadhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/523524/ will close a bug21:16
cmurphyyeah it's something to do with the os, i wasn't able to reproduce it but it was seen in ci and by mordred21:17
cmurphylbragstad: you keep linking that and i always click on it and then i'm sad i can't help :'(21:18
lbragstadlol21:18
lbragstadregardless - thanks for the review cmurphy21:18
cmurphy:)21:18
lbragstadit's the thought that counts, amiright?!21:18
cmurphylol21:19
cmurphylbragstad: re service_type/service_id see my and wxy's comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455709/13/specs/keystone/queens/limits-api.rst21:20
cmurphyservice_type isn't guaranteed unique21:20
mordredcmurphy: what did I do?21:22
cmurphymordred: the +00:00 thing21:23
lbragstad?!21:23
mordredoh - that21:23
mordredJEEZ don't even get me started on that21:24
lbragstadi thought services had type built into the unique constraint21:25
cmurphyi don't think so http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystone/tree/keystone/common/sql/migrate_repo/versions/067_kilo.py#n11521:26
lbragstadbah21:26
lbragstadthat kinda sucks21:26
cmurphyhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/628219/21:27
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lbragstadit looks like i can abandon my follow on to that spec then21:32
mordredcmurphy, lbragstad: I know of at least one existing deployment with non-unique service types - as much as it drives me completely bonkers21:33
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mordredI'd, of course, argue that it SHOULD be unique21:33
mordredand that people with non-unique service types are making the world a terrible place21:33
* lbragstad waits for the "this is why we can't have nice things" rant21:34
cmurphylbragstad: yeah i thnk all work can be done in the original spec21:34
lbragstadsweet21:34
mordredlbragstad: I figure everyone knows that rant by now ...21:35
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kmallocmordred: so.. i agree21:51
kmallocunfortunately...21:51
kmallocmordred: it's an API break if we change that >.<21:51
kmallocmordred: i don't think many people would disagree about service-types need to be unique21:52
lbragstad#endmeeting22:00
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-keystoneclient master: Handle UTC+00:00 in datetime strings  https://review.openstack.org/52488222:29
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-keystoneclient master: Avoid tox_install.sh for constraints support  https://review.openstack.org/52482822:54
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openstackgerritGage Hugo proposed openstack/keystone master: WIP - Make fernet config and utils generic  https://review.openstack.org/52320023:38
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