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| mattoliverau | hey all, just wanted to confirm. I'm triaging a swift doc bug. project_id and tenant_id are the same thing right? the context is adding %\(project_id\)s or %\(tenant_id\)s to an endpoint uri. These would result in the same thing right? The swift install guide references the latter, but I know that is old. My inderstanding are there the same thing, but realise I could be wrong, so thought I'd come to the poeple in | 00:34 |
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| mattoliverau | the know and ask directly :) | 00:34 |
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| cmurphy | mattoliverau: yes, tenant is what it was called in v2 and project is what it is called in v3 but they are the same thing | 06:14 |
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| cmurphy | mordred: fried_rice ^ figured out the unit test | 08:29 |
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| efried | cmurphy Nice. | 13:00 |
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| kmalloc | lbragstad: o/ | 15:04 |
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| lbragstad | kmalloc: o/ | 15:10 |
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| kmalloc | lbragstad: i was thinking about the data migrate | 15:17 |
| kmalloc | if you make sure all code is upgraded to pike before you migrate | 15:17 |
| kmalloc | it wont be an issue | 15:17 |
| kmalloc | since all nodes would be creating with both fields populated | 15:17 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: the only issue occurs when/if you mirate the data *when* some nodes are pre-pike | 15:18 |
| kmalloc | is it safe to assume all nodes on pike when migrate is run? | 15:18 |
| kmalloc | because... it should be. | 15:18 |
| lbragstad | don't you still have ocata and pike nodes running at the same time? | 15:18 |
| kmalloc | we can't really solve this any other way | 15:19 |
| kmalloc | that all nodes must be pike before migrate... *or* i can roll the migrate into the contract. | 15:19 |
| kmalloc | but we can't have the migrate of the data in any place where it's not all pike | 15:20 |
| lbragstad | hmm | 15:20 |
| kmalloc | i don't feel comfortable doing string->int processing in triggers | 15:20 |
| kmalloc | triggers are still a terrrrrrible ide | 15:20 |
| kmalloc | a | 15:20 |
| kmalloc | and even worse in cases like this | 15:20 |
| lbragstad | doing that conversion in triggers isn't the right solution | 15:20 |
| kmalloc | exactly | 15:21 |
| kmalloc | so. | 15:21 |
| lbragstad | what about a partial outate? | 15:21 |
| lbragstad | outage* | 15:21 |
| kmalloc | do i need to put this in contract? | 15:21 |
| kmalloc | you can't migrate with ocata nodes | 15:21 |
| kmalloc | since they wont populate the new frield | 15:21 |
| kmalloc | field* | 15:21 |
| kmalloc | regardless | 15:21 |
| kmalloc | the data migrate must be when everything is on pike | 15:21 |
| lbragstad | can't the expand phase lock the password table? | 15:21 |
| kmalloc | doesn't matter | 15:21 |
| kmalloc | if you lock the table - and migrate the data | 15:22 |
| kmalloc | all well and food | 15:22 |
| kmalloc | good* | 15:22 |
| kmalloc | ocata nodes will still not populate created_at_int | 15:22 |
| lbragstad | right | 15:22 |
| lbragstad | right | 15:22 |
| kmalloc | so you can't have ocata nodes. | 15:22 |
| lbragstad | yep | 15:22 |
| lbragstad | first, lock the table using expand | 15:22 |
| kmalloc | or you just end with created_at_int as 0, which is fine since we fall back to created_at | 15:22 |
| lbragstad | then migrate the data, then upgrade all nodes to pike | 15:22 |
| lbragstad | then run the contract, which unlocks the table | 15:23 |
| kmalloc | or, you expand, updgrade nodes to pike | 15:23 |
| kmalloc | so. lets step back | 15:23 |
| kmalloc | expand (multiple versions) - ok | 15:23 |
| kmalloc | migrate data - is this with multiple vewrsions or always post code being upgraded? | 15:23 |
| kmalloc | contract - always with updated code. | 15:24 |
| kmalloc | i don't understand when migrate-data is run | 15:24 |
| lbragstad | expand and migrate are suppose to be done with N and N+1 code | 15:24 |
| kmalloc | ok | 15:24 |
| lbragstad | kmalloc: we have this documented, let me double check | 15:24 |
| kmalloc | so i need to put the data migrate in the contract code. | 15:24 |
| kmalloc | that is fine | 15:24 |
| kmalloc | since i am adding non-null constraints in contract (because that is a locking operation) | 15:25 |
| lbragstad | https://docs.openstack.org/keystone/latest/admin/identity-upgrading.html#upgrading-without-downtime | 15:25 |
| kmalloc | ok, so lets just do the data migrate in contract | 15:25 |
| kmalloc | done. | 15:25 |
| kmalloc | easy | 15:25 |
| kmalloc | and it guarantees everything works as expected | 15:25 |
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| lbragstad | the thing we lose here is the ability to test a single node after the migration has run | 15:27 |
| kmalloc | explain? | 15:27 |
| lbragstad | if the migration is it in the contract phase, there isn't an opportunity to test a pike node until after contract is done | 15:27 |
| lbragstad | steps 7 - 9 in the link above ^ | 15:28 |
| kmalloc | the pike nodes read from both locations | 15:28 |
| kmalloc | if created_at_int is null/0 it reads from created_at | 15:28 |
| kmalloc | as it should | 15:28 |
| kmalloc | i have a unit test that verifies the data is in-fact migrated as expected | 15:29 |
| kmalloc | you can't really get better than that coverage wise with this kind of thing. | 15:29 |
| lbragstad | i'm not so concerned about that bit | 15:29 |
| kmalloc | so simple, you just can't do the migrate if you have ocata and pike nodes unless contract *also* does the migrade | 15:30 |
| kmalloc | or you assume some rows will have broken data/zero created_at_int values | 15:30 |
| lbragstad | the way the process is documented allows operators to pull a single node out of a pool of ocata nodes, upgrade it, expand the schema, migrate the data, then attempt running it against the datasotre | 15:31 |
| kmalloc | and that should still work fine | 15:31 |
| kmalloc | but the ocata nodes will not write to the other column | 15:31 |
| kmalloc | the pike nodes do: return self.created_at_int or self.created_At | 15:32 |
| kmalloc | erm "or self._created_at" [old column object is _created_at] | 15:32 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: --- | 15:34 |
| kmalloc | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/mljZpvjg/ | 15:34 |
| kmalloc | ^ | 15:34 |
| lbragstad | yep - that make sense | 15:35 |
| lbragstad | thinking through things | 15:35 |
| lbragstad | .... lodaing | 15:35 |
| lbragstad | loading* | 15:35 |
| kmalloc | that might not need to be @hybrid_property though | 15:35 |
| lbragstad | i'm trying to figure out if doing this is going to have negative side-effects | 15:35 |
| lbragstad | (because the documentation describes something different) | 15:36 |
| kmalloc | the fact we banked on triggers for all the data migration between versions is why this is ugly | 15:36 |
| kmalloc | we've now had 2 cases where they just *cant* work | 15:37 |
| kmalloc | can we back out the use of triggers going forward and just do it all in app? | 15:37 |
| kmalloc | mordred: ^ another reason triggers should never happen for rolling upgrades (i mean I guess, I could have re-implemented hashing algorithms in sql trigger, but......) | 15:37 |
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| lbragstad | well - when trigger logic becomes to complex, we can just lock the table | 15:38 |
| lbragstad | we have done that before | 15:38 |
| kmalloc | except when you have fundamentally different code that is incompatible between versions of keystone | 15:38 |
| kmalloc | for example: password hashing. implementing that in a trigger is a nightmare. | 15:39 |
| lbragstad | right - i'm not suggesting that should be done | 15:39 |
| kmalloc | so, my view is we stop mixing and matching. Triggers are hard to debug, don't meet all the real cases, and need custom code per-backend | 15:39 |
| kmalloc | per-RDBMS-engine | 15:40 |
| kmalloc | that is | 15:40 |
| lbragstad | i'm more or less saying that when logic is too complicated to be implemented in a trigger, we can lock the table to ensure the data doesn't move or change when the data migrated | 15:40 |
| kmalloc | that doesn't solve the issue | 15:40 |
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| kmalloc | that means you're locked until all nodes are upgraded | 15:40 |
| kmalloc | you might as well just take an outage | 15:40 |
| lbragstad | it depends on what is being upgraded | 15:41 |
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| lbragstad | and the severity of the lock | 15:41 |
| kmalloc | locking the password table is likely going to be an ugly lock | 15:41 |
| lbragstad | sure - but other cases where we had to lock the a table were minor | 15:41 |
| lbragstad | because it was locking a resource the doesn't get accessed much or change often | 15:42 |
| kmalloc | like i said, we should just put the logic in the app | 15:42 |
| kmalloc | this saves a lot of headaches on "oh this one can be a trigger" and "this one can't" | 15:42 |
| kmalloc | it does exactly 1 thing, extend the compat code a cycle | 15:42 |
| kmalloc | which really is not the worst thing | 15:42 |
| kmalloc | it means implementation will always be consistent and reviewable. | 15:43 |
| kmalloc | in the same way | 15:43 |
| lbragstad | sure - but what about cases where you have deployments iterating a set of upgrades | 15:43 |
| lbragstad | (i.e. someone is on kilo but wants to be on pike) | 15:43 |
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| kmalloc | that is *not* covered by the rolling upgrade standard | 15:43 |
| lbragstad | kmalloc: right - but hear me out | 15:43 |
| kmalloc | can we not do "well maybe someone somewhere will be doing this and not follow documented ways to do it" | 15:43 |
| lbragstad | the understanding is that they schedule an outage | 15:43 |
| kmalloc | if they schedule an outage they can do the upgrade in one shot with expand/migrate/contract | 15:44 |
| lbragstad | so - take all the services down, upgrade to liberty, run the migrations, upgrade to mitaka, run the migrations, etc... | 15:44 |
| kmalloc | since all migrations are in the tree and not collapsed | 15:44 |
| lbragstad | but that doesn't migrate all the data | 15:44 |
| kmalloc | if you're on mitaka | 15:44 |
| kmalloc | you do: expand to latest, migrate, contract, bring services back up | 15:45 |
| kmalloc | all those migrations are in tree | 15:45 |
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| kmalloc | in pike | 15:45 |
| kmalloc | post mitaka | 15:45 |
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| kmalloc | actually... even before since we didn't collapse pre-kilo | 15:45 |
| kmalloc | erm post-kilo | 15:45 |
| lbragstad | but if you have the migrations in the application - the application is doing the marshalling of data for you, no? | 15:45 |
| kmalloc | so you can do the schema update from pike. | 15:45 |
| lbragstad | instead of forcing it with a migrate script | 15:46 |
| kmalloc | no no, the data migration in the app is *only* to cover data being written by both versions | 15:46 |
| kmalloc | just like a trigger does | 15:46 |
| kmalloc | trigger does not migrate data, it ensures new data is sync'd between old/new places | 15:46 |
| lbragstad | ok - i misunderstood what you meant by in-app then | 15:46 |
| kmalloc | yeah | 15:46 |
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| lbragstad | that's what we intended triggers to do | 15:47 |
| lbragstad | triggers were never meant to "migrate", only to make sure the data written to the old location would be available in the new location and vice versa | 15:48 |
| kmalloc | right | 15:48 |
| lbragstad | granted - that can get confusing for cases that aren't "make sure this uuid is availabel here" | 15:48 |
| kmalloc | so i'm advocating stop using triggers | 15:48 |
| kmalloc | always implement that in-app | 15:48 |
| kmalloc | like i've had to do the last two major changes because it can't be represented in triggers | 15:49 |
| mordred | kmalloc, lbragstad haven't read the whole scrollback - but these are all the reasons I arguedagainst triggers | 15:49 |
| kmalloc | mordred: pretty much you're up to speed | 15:49 |
| mordred | \o/ | 15:49 |
| kmalloc | mordred: i am dealing with DATETIME -> INT because mysql loses subsecond resolution in many active versions | 15:49 |
| kmalloc | including the versions we use in gate | 15:49 |
| kmalloc | and i dealt with password hashing algos | 15:49 |
| kmalloc | not good cases to put into triggers | 15:49 |
| mordred | kmalloc: excellent. and yes, it does | 15:50 |
| kmalloc | so i'm arguing we should stop using triggers going forward. | 15:50 |
| kmalloc | and just in-app logic it for those cases. | 15:50 |
| mordred | although I've got to say I'm SUPER SAD that subsecond resolution is still not in mainline - that was oneof the first things we mergedinto drizzle | 15:50 |
| lbragstad | mordred: ++ | 15:50 |
| kmalloc | mordred: it is mainline in maria last i checked. | 15:50 |
| mordred | kmalloc: yah. doing in-app also allows it to be more automatic and/or for you to do different transitions differently depending on need | 15:50 |
| kmalloc | mordred: exactly | 15:51 |
| kmalloc | mordred: and we are going to have a lot of DATETIME->int conversions | 15:51 |
| mordred | kmalloc: like a "on restart run migrations" coupled with "except for this piece of data, which please do do on acess/update" etc | 15:51 |
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| kmalloc | mordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/493259/5/keystone/common/sql/core.py | 15:51 |
| mordred | kmalloc: ++ | 15:51 |
| kmalloc | mordred: because that avoids headaches of different NUMERIC impls, and float rounding, and... and ... and | 15:52 |
| kmalloc | and eventually we can do INT->DATETIME in a controller layer if we so desire | 15:52 |
| kmalloc | instead of everywehre inside of keystone | 15:52 |
| kmalloc | or at the DB layer. | 15:52 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: so, what i'm advocating is change our policy, Triggers going forward are no longer allowed | 15:53 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: any thing a trigger would have done is done in-app | 15:53 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: data migrations, expand, and contract remain the same (though migrate *might* need to be moved to post-code-upgrade run) | 15:53 |
| lbragstad | then we're in a similar place we were before introducing this process that requires us to go clean things up after a release or two | 15:54 |
| lbragstad | which folks were against | 15:54 |
| lbragstad | (e.g. the _created_at attribute in this case0 | 15:54 |
| kmalloc | people need to get over that | 15:54 |
| kmalloc | the answer i have is: either we support rolling upgrades, or we don't have "cleanup" to do. | 15:55 |
| mordred | kmalloc: I'm confused - https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/8.0/en/storage-requirements.html#data-types-storage-reqs-date-time implies 5.6.4 accounts for storage for subseconds- but https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/8.0/en/fractional-seconds.html says it's in 8.0 ...oh,that doesn't say it was addedin 8.0,only that 8.0 has support | 15:55 |
| kmalloc | yeah | 15:55 |
| kmalloc | it's annoying | 15:56 |
| kmalloc | and it's already bit us a bunch | 15:56 |
| kmalloc | my answer is lets not deal with that | 15:56 |
| kmalloc | or our devs need to be way way way smarter about sorting. | 15:56 |
| kmalloc | and not doing [order by created_at] and assume it is safe. | 15:56 |
| kmalloc | which.... is a tall order at the moment, we have had this bug hit us over and over and over in many places | 15:57 |
| kmalloc | it's like caching invalidations | 15:57 |
| kmalloc | it's very hard to ensure people do it right. | 15:57 |
| mordred | so .... | 15:58 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: does this mean i need to come to the PTG to argue all this? | 15:58 |
| kmalloc | because... i really didn't want to. | 15:58 |
| lbragstad | kmalloc: you totally should | 15:58 |
| mordred | you have to provide a fractional-seconds-precision in the column definition | 15:58 |
| kmalloc | mordred: and we can't do that in all cases | 15:58 |
| kmalloc | because we don't really specify a minimum mysql version | 15:58 |
| mordred | god really? what the hell old-ass versions ... | 15:58 |
| mordred | ah | 15:58 |
| kmalloc | yeah | 15:58 |
| mordred | we should specify a minimum | 15:58 |
| kmalloc | openstack historically hasn't really | 15:59 |
| lbragstad | mordred: please make that happen | 15:59 |
| kmalloc | so, someone make it happen | 15:59 |
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| kmalloc | but we have a very ugly update to a ton of tables then. | 15:59 |
| mordred | ok. I'm gonna send a quick email to the list ... | 15:59 |
| lbragstad | i've noticed some terrible assuptions and bugs with mysql rounding | 15:59 |
| mordred | oh - I still think your int thing is great | 15:59 |
| lbragstad | assumptions* | 15:59 |
| kmalloc | so i think i'm going to stick with INT | 15:59 |
| mordred | but we should have a min version | 15:59 |
| kmalloc | but yes | 15:59 |
| mordred | yup | 15:59 |
| kmalloc | we should | 15:59 |
| kmalloc | or we should very publically say "THIS IS THE MINIMUM" | 15:59 |
| kmalloc | because afaict it is "whatever falls out of 16.04 is sortof minimum, but eh, you could make 14.04 work if you made sure python..." | 16:00 |
| kmalloc | which.... | 16:00 |
| kmalloc | anyway | 16:00 |
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| lbragstad | mordred: kmalloc https://julien.danjou.info/blog/2016/python-sqlalchemy-from-decimal-to-timestamp | 16:02 |
| kmalloc | exept we support PGSQL and MySQL | 16:03 |
| kmalloc | annnnnnnnd | 16:03 |
| kmalloc | i don't trust different NUMERIC column types | 16:03 |
| kmalloc | and you have to be specific on the pre-decimal/post-decimal numbers | 16:04 |
| kmalloc | which... means preceeding 0s | 16:04 |
| kmalloc | at least afaict from the mysql docs | 16:05 |
| kmalloc | and i worry that something would change even if it doesn't work like that | 16:05 |
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| kmalloc | lbragstad: ok. so. let me fix the migration to put the stuff in contract | 16:15 |
| kmalloc | i'll push a change to fix the FK (or alternatively disable configuring the resource backend) | 16:15 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: and let arguments ensue (disable configuring resource is a better plan imo) | 16:15 |
| ayoung | Where are we tripping over milisecond precision now? | 16:16 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: password creation time | 16:16 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: so, i'm just calling it and dumping the datetime fields in the db | 16:16 |
| ayoung | Just in testing, or real world? | 16:16 |
| kmalloc | both | 16:16 |
| kmalloc | mostly testing | 16:16 |
| kmalloc | but could happen in real-world if someone changes a password in the same second | 16:16 |
| kmalloc | (mysql server second, that is) | 16:17 |
| kmalloc | non-deterministic which password would be valid | 16:17 |
| kmalloc | but i'm laying groundwork to ditch all date-time fields in keystone | 16:17 |
| kmalloc | and just storing it as an int, with code to convert as needed | 16:17 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/493259/5/keystone/identity/backends/sql_model.py | 16:17 |
| kmalloc | and not, it is not using DECIMAL or NUMERIC because implementations vary some between RDBMS engines | 16:18 |
| ayoung | that means we can't really query on it, but I think I'm OK with that | 16:18 |
| kmalloc | i don't think we really query on it | 16:18 |
| ayoung | at cloud scale, things really should not happen within a single second except response from a browser that say "yeah, I got your request" | 16:18 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: it shouldn't but we could have cases of it | 16:18 |
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| ayoung | MySQL feels like such a toy sometimes | 16:19 |
| kmalloc | and it's hit real world cases with rev events | 16:19 |
| kmalloc | mysql isn't bad if people use it right, and configure it right | 16:19 |
| ayoung | rev events also need to go away | 16:19 |
| kmalloc | the issue is... we don't enforce that | 16:19 |
| ayoung | yep | 16:19 |
| kmalloc | and many people don't know how to do it | 16:19 |
| ayoung | the price of a successful project...people actually using it | 16:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Morgan Fainberg proposed openstack/keystone master: Add int storage of datetime for password created/expires https://review.openstack.org/493259 | 16:44 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: ^ there | 16:45 |
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| lbragstad | reviewing | 16:45 |
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| kmalloc | lbragstad: oh it prob needs a release note. | 16:57 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: i have another change i'm spooling up. almost done. | 16:57 |
| lbragstad | kmalloc: yes - for sure | 16:57 |
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| samueldmq | lbragstad: have you released rc2 or are you waiting on ^? | 17:04 |
| lbragstad | samueldmq: we're waiting on kmalloc's patch | 17:04 |
| lbragstad | we're also waiting on a translations patch | 17:04 |
| kmalloc | and i have another patch (separate) | 17:04 |
| kmalloc | that will be proposed shortly | 17:04 |
| kmalloc | samueldmq: if you want to write a release note for ^^ that would work, if not, i'll get it shortly | 17:05 |
| samueldmq | nice | 17:05 |
| kmalloc | (lbragstad same thing) | 17:05 |
| kmalloc | re reno | 17:05 |
| samueldmq | I can do that, but lbragstad always have better wording soo.... | 17:05 |
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| lbragstad | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-August/121074.html | 17:05 |
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| samueldmq | lbragstad: that makes sense | 17:06 |
| kmalloc | next patch removes the ability to configure anything but SQL for resource backend | 17:06 |
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| kmalloc | easier than removing the FKs | 17:06 |
| kmalloc | and yes it will be proposed for pike too | 17:06 |
| kmalloc | as a backport | 17:06 |
| kmalloc | it's been broken since mid ocata | 17:06 |
| kmalloc | and, to be fair, it is way way way easier to allow FKs from resource into the SQL backends elsewhere | 17:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Morgan Fainberg proposed openstack/keystone master: Resource backend is SQL only now https://review.openstack.org/493621 | 17:42 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: ^ | 17:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Morgan Fainberg proposed openstack/keystone master: Add int storage of datetime for password created/expires https://review.openstack.org/493259 | 17:47 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: with reno ^ | 17:48 |
| lbragstad | reviewing both | 17:48 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: the resource not being configurable really eases a lot of headaches and opens the doors for FKs where we want (which should simplify SQL-driver code long term) | 17:49 |
| kmalloc | i really don't want to backport "drop FK" migrations. | 17:49 |
| kmalloc | which is the other option | 17:49 |
| kmalloc | backporting migrations is super icky | 17:50 |
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| cmurphy | lbragstad: am i way too late to make the case for an emergency ksa release for https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystoneauth/+bug/1709658 ? | 18:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1709658 in keystoneauth ""Could not find requested endpoint in Service Catalog" when requesting unavailable identity endpoint" [Undecided,Fix released] - Assigned to Colleen Murphy (krinkle) | 18:27 |
| cmurphy | or when are libs unfrozen for releases? | 18:28 |
| lbragstad | cmurphy: i believe they are unfrozen for queens? | 18:31 |
| lbragstad | cmurphy: i'd have to double check but i believe they are open for queens development | 18:31 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: okay so i guess i can just propose a release to the releases repo | 18:35 |
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| lbragstad | cmurphy: reading your bug report | 18:39 |
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| lbragstad | cmurphy: for the liberty deployment you found this on - i assume you're just going to use a new version of ksa then/ | 18:44 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: yes, they found it using the latest release of ksa, which still mostly works even with keystone liberty | 18:46 |
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| kmalloc | lbragstad: the issue with the FK in id->resource is an ocata issue | 18:50 |
| kmalloc | the fix options are: 1) backport dropping FKs | 18:50 |
| kmalloc | 2) disabling non-sql resource | 18:51 |
| kmalloc | i think edmondsw is the only person realistically not using SQL id in some form | 18:51 |
| kmalloc | you cannot configure non-SQL resource and SQL identity, even as a domain-specific driver | 18:51 |
| kmalloc | it will break | 18:51 |
| lbragstad | kmalloc: we must have a bug report floating aroudn? | 18:51 |
| kmalloc | nope. not at the moment | 18:51 |
| kmalloc | this was discovered in the created_at ifx | 18:51 |
| kmalloc | fix* | 18:51 |
| edmondsw | we use sql for everything except identity | 18:52 |
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| kmalloc | edmondsw: right | 18:52 |
| kmalloc | and i was using you as an example because you don't use any SQL id | 18:52 |
| edmondsw | yep | 18:52 |
| kmalloc | you're probably the only deployment that could change resource to non-SQL | 18:52 |
| kmalloc | and not be broken | 18:52 |
| kmalloc | only set of deployments | 18:52 |
| edmondsw | you may be right there... never considered it | 18:53 |
| kmalloc | because there is a FK for user (sql id) to resource | 18:53 |
| kmalloc | and, ftr, i am not backporting a schema change for a bug that shows now one is using pluggability in resource backend | 18:53 |
| kmalloc | in fact, at this point, i'd -2 the schema change. | 18:53 |
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| kmalloc | it is far more impactful | 18:53 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: and the fix will need a backport to ocata too, but pike because of RC is more important | 18:54 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: ftr, this was introduced with rderose's change for adding domain to user table | 18:55 |
| kmalloc | so mid-ocata ish? | 18:55 |
| kmalloc | (dev) | 18:55 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: i proposed https://review.openstack.org/493644 - would be cool to get it cut but it also seems a little early to release already, not really sure | 18:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Morgan Fainberg proposed openstack/keystone master: Resource backend is SQL only now https://review.openstack.org/493621 | 18:58 |
| lbragstad | cmurphy: i'm good with releasing early | 18:58 |
| cmurphy | cool | 18:58 |
| lbragstad | cmurphy: so long as the release team is fine with the change and validates the process | 18:58 |
| lbragstad | releasing early and often never hurts | 18:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Octave Orgeron proposed openstack/keystone master: Enables MySQL Cluster support for Keystone https://review.openstack.org/431229 | 19:06 |
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| kmalloc | lbragstad: i'm going to have to ask someone else to take up the create_at_int patch, i want to throw a computer out the window because of it atm | 20:07 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: the fk thing has somehow come back *again* but this time in pgsql...even though it passed a patchset before | 20:07 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: or it wont be until thursday or friday i'm coming bck to it, basically i am just too frustrated at the moment to keep working on it | 20:08 |
| kmalloc | cmurphy: ^ | 20:08 |
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| lbragstad | kmalloc: let me take a crack at addressing comments | 20:16 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: it's not the comments so much, it's the db issues. | 20:17 |
| kmalloc | but i am approaching my limit on the fact that random things snuck into our schemas and it makes these so hard to fix. | 20:17 |
| kencjohnston_ | From the docs, is it fair to say that Newton was the first release where Keystone supported OpenID? | 20:19 |
| kencjohnston_ | https://docs.openstack.org/keystone/newton/federation/federated_identity.html#id4 | 20:19 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad so as long as we get someone with fresh eyes to look at the db errors, i can pick it back up | 20:25 |
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| AJaeger | keystone cores, could you import translations, please? https://review.openstack.org/492844 | 20:26 |
| lbragstad | kmalloc: do you have any changes locally? | 20:26 |
| kmalloc | nope | 20:27 |
| kmalloc | nothing that isn't up on review.o.o | 20:27 |
| lbragstad | kmalloc: ok | 20:27 |
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| AJaeger | thanks, lbragstad | 20:41 |
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| breton | do "local" federated users still there? | 20:56 |
| breton | *still exist? | 20:56 |
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| lbragstad | breton: like an ldap user? | 21:07 |
| lbragstad | kencjohnston_: no - open id connect has been around prior to newton https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/keystone-specs/specs/kilo/openid-connect.html | 21:09 |
| kencjohnston_ | awesome, thanks @lbragstad ! | 21:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystone master: Fix wrong links https://review.openstack.org/493479 | 21:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Add int storage of datetime for password created/expires https://review.openstack.org/493259 | 21:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystone master: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/492844 | 21:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Morgan Fainberg proposed openstack/keystone master: Add int storage of datetime for password created/expires https://review.openstack.org/493259 | 22:41 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: ^ *grump* | 22:42 |
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