Monday, 2016-10-31

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stevemarjamielennox: ah, nice comment01:38
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openstackgerritayoung proposed openstack/keystone-specs: Token Verify Role Check  https://review.openstack.org/39162402:37
ayoungstevemar, jamielennox, ^^ interested to see what you think of that.  TLDR;  add the role check into the token validation call02:37
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guoshanhi all, are there any api to query tokens expire time?03:09
guoshanthe exact time for each token expire time, not the config token expire time03:10
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openstackgerritXu Ao proposed openstack/oslo.policy: Fix a code logic while doing cyclical reference check to the policy  https://review.openstack.org/39137005:32
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stevemar{"url": "http://docs-beta.openstack.org/developer/keystone/federation/federation.html", "status": 404, "referer": "http://docs-beta.openstack.org/developer/keystone/federation/federated_identity.html"},12:51
stevemar{"url": "http://docs-beta.openstack.org/developer/keystone/nogoodresource", "status": 404, "referer": "http://docs-beta.openstack.org/developer/keystone/developing_drivers.html"},12:51
stevemardead links!12:51
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dstanekstevemar: :-(13:20
lbragstadmorning!13:21
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knikollao/13:26
dstanekmorning13:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/keystone: Pass a request to controllers instead of a context  https://review.openstack.org/39160913:38
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openstackgerritKristi Nikolla proposed openstack/keystone: Add structure for Devstack plugin  https://review.openstack.org/39140014:03
stevemarmorning amigos14:06
lbragstadstevemar yo14:06
ayounglbragstad, you were sorely missed last week14:06
ayoungas was dstanek and bknudson14:07
lbragstadayoung :) i look forward to notes14:07
ayounglbragstad, had a summit epiphany, Thursday night, too late to discuss with the other cores, as I flew on Thursday...14:07
ayounghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/391624/14:07
stevemarlbragstad: i'll try and get some stuff posted this week14:08
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ayoungLets do the role check for policy as part of the token validation.14:08
lbragstadisn't that what we do with validation already?14:09
lbragstadwe validate a token and the service applies the roles in the policy to the roles in the token validation response14:09
lbragstadstevemar awesome - i can't wait to read them14:10
lbragstadstevemar i spend last week overhauling http://keystone-performance.lbragstad.com/14:10
ayounglbragstad, nah, no role validation is done inside the Keystone server, only later14:10
ayoungand the only role that is checked now is Admin...except for Keystone with service users14:11
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lbragstadayoung if we wanted to move the policy check into the token validation path within keystone wouldn't that mean keystone would need all the policy information for every service?14:12
ayounglbragstad, nope14:12
ayounglbragstad, we leave the existing check in place14:13
ayoungwe only doi the Role check in keystone14:13
ayoungit is the split I was talking about before:14:13
ayoungscope check is hard coded14:13
ayoungrole check is dynamic, and in middleware14:13
ayoungby moving it to the Keystone server, we don't have to deal with distribution or caching of the policy files14:13
ayoungRole check is addtional to, and prior to, default policy check14:14
ayoungbut both are still needed14:14
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lbragstadayoung by role check do you mean ensuring the user has a role on the project?14:15
stevemarlbragstad: nice14:15
ayounglbragstad, more like ensureing that the role in the token matches the role required for the API, but yes14:15
stevemarlbragstad: the bot came up as well as the bug reports you automated, and one suggestion was to keep a running tally14:15
stevemargraph it out so we can see the results over time, or something like that14:16
lbragstadayoung so keystone needs to have the policy in order to do that, right?14:16
stevemarsnapshots in data don't help as much as seeing the overall picture14:16
lbragstadstevemar yep - that's what i started doing https://github.com/lbragstad/keystone-performance/tree/master/results14:16
ayounglbragstad, sort of.  It needs some policy, but it can be much simpler than the existing policy files14:16
ayoungthe example I put in the spec it14:16
lbragstadstevemar so far i'm keep all data from all runs in source control14:16
ayoung GET /v3/users/{user_id}/projects : role:Reader14:16
stevemarlbragstad: yep, i saw that :)14:16
lbragstadstevemar if people want to graph it differently, they have all the data to do it14:17
ayoungSo policy check is on Verb and a pattern match of the URL, much like the routes.Mapper does in Keystone14:17
ayoungExcuse me, let me be explicit and say the RBAC check14:17
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ayoungwe still will have the policy check executed in the code like this:14:17
ayounghttp://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystone/tree/etc/policy.json#n4514:18
openstackgerritBoris Bobrov proposed openstack/keystone: Fix broken links in the docs  https://review.openstack.org/39185114:18
ayoungbut instead of "admin_required" we make it more forgiving, something that lets an appropriately scoped user in as well.14:19
stevemarayoung: whos the red hat packager / maintainer for openstack bits?14:19
ayoungKeystone ones are actually the worst, as they are mostly domain scoped operations.  But take role assignments14:19
dstanekayoung: i have to say that i was nice not having to travel :-)14:19
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ayoungstevemar, varies.  But I have a say in the keystone* ones14:20
ayoungdstanek, travel does get tough.  See you in Feb in ATL, though14:20
ayoungI hope...14:20
ayoungstevemar, which package in particular?14:20
stevemarayoung: centos packaging bug reported on the keystone queue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/163785014:20
openstackLaunchpad bug 1637850 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "newton openstack-keystone service not created on Centos7" [Undecided,New]14:20
ayoungstevemar, not-a-bug14:21
dstanekayoung: i'm assuming so yes14:21
ayoungdstanek, well, I might have a conflict.  My wife has a seminar to give, and we both can't travel at the same time....14:21
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ayoungstevemar, updated.14:23
ayoungare we still having the team meeting tomorrow?  I assume yes, but want to make sure14:31
dstanekayoung: that's unfortunate14:32
ayoungdstanek, I think I'm clear.  I think she is going the following week14:32
ayoung Feb 20-24, 2017  is the PTG, and I thin hers is later14:33
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lbragstadrderose ping?14:37
lbragstadrderose curious if you or ravelar have seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/163474614:38
openstackLaunchpad bug 1524030 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "duplicate for #1634746 Reduce revocation events for performance improvement" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Ron De Rose (ronald-de-rose)14:38
ayounglbragstad, I just had a thought.  We could do the whole thing with implied roles, and drop the RBAC config files.   Hmmmm14:48
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lbragstadayoung how so?15:04
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ayounglbragstad, say the rule was:15:09
ayounger, the role was the URL pattern15:09
ayounghmmm...need a way to make a single string with both the Verb and the pattern15:10
ayoungand then we could assign someone exactly that pattern as an assignment, or delegate via trust15:10
ayoungso...we create  role "GET identity /v3/users"15:10
ayoungand Member implies  "GET identity /v3/users"15:11
ayoungso if you have the top level role, you get the lower level role15:11
ayounginstead of having a rule that is "GET identity /v3/users" : role:Member15:11
ayoungit would all be via the inference rules.15:12
lbragstadhmm15:13
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ayoungstevemar, dstanek can I get a go-ahead on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389783/15:24
ayoungI'm trying to figure out why the backport test failed, but it seems spurious15:24
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dstanekayoung: looking15:26
openstackgerritRichard Avelar proposed openstack/keystone: Remove unused statements in matches  https://review.openstack.org/38754815:32
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stevemarayoung: +W15:51
ayoung+W?15:51
stevemarayoung: workflow15:52
ayoungAh.  Cool15:52
stevemarsomeone want to approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391400/ ?15:52
ayoung+TYVM15:52
ayoungstevemar, looking15:53
ayoungstevemar, +W  to use your term15:55
stevemar:)15:55
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ayoungknikolla, +A on your patch.  And that is the first patch I've +Aedthat, in the past would grant ATC access to the summit that will no longer do so :(15:56
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/keystone: Create default role as a part of bootstrap  https://review.openstack.org/38978316:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/keystone: Add structure for Devstack plugin  https://review.openstack.org/39140016:40
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knikollaayoung, thanks for the +A :)16:53
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openstackgerritGage Hugo proposed openstack/keystone: WIP: remove LDAP write support  https://review.openstack.org/37448217:11
stevemarback in a few hours :(17:22
stevemarhold down the fort keystoners!17:22
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samueldmqhey keystoners :)17:53
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samueldmqlbragstad: stevemar: dstanek: are we holding on anything specific for patch 345688 ?17:55
lbragstadsamueldmq yeah - it's dependent on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376526/617:56
samueldmq(other than the depends-on patch on devstack?)17:56
lbragstadsamueldmq nope - that's the only dependency17:57
samueldmqlbragstad: 345688 has a depends-on (in the commit message) to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367052/ (devstack patch)17:58
lbragstadsamueldmq yep17:58
lbragstadso the devstack patch has to merge first17:58
lbragstadbefore we can merge the release note17:58
lbragstadonce that merges we can approve the switch17:58
samueldmqlbragstad: gotcha17:59
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samueldmqlbragstad: it is expected that the upgrade Newton -> Ocata is not backwards compat for role creation, right ?18:02
samueldmqlbragstad: I remember we had a discussion about it in the past (apparently we had broken a gate), just can't remember the decision18:02
lbragstadsamueldmq for role creation?18:02
samueldmqmy bad, token creation18:02
samueldmqlbragstad:18:02
lbragstadsamueldmq token creation is backwards incompatible you mean?18:03
samueldmqlbragstad: yes, in the defaults, because of the config change18:03
lbragstadit should be compatible if a deployer wants to keep using UUID, they can, but they just have to explicitly say it18:03
lbragstadin that case, tokens created using newton should be validatable against Ocata18:04
samueldmqlbragstad: sounds fair. the behavior is very well documented in the release notes.18:04
lbragstadsamueldmq yeah - that's what we're aiming for18:04
samueldmqlbragstad: ++18:05
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ayoungstevemar, a + from you on the bootstrap backport would be much appreciated:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391678/18:34
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ayoungDisregard18:35
ayoungthanks18:35
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stevemarayoung: poke dolphm i suppose18:46
ayoungstevemar, sure, or other stable maints.  I just didn't see your + at first, and wanted to say that other keystoners had looked at it.  THanks18:47
stevemarayoung: rgr18:47
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ayoungstevemar, BTW, I think we should call the Keystone Turtle Mascot 'Stoney'18:47
stevemari like that!18:47
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stevemarlbragstad: poke https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391069/118:51
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lbragstadstevemar nice - done18:56
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lbragstadstevemar do we have an outlook on the removal of pki and pkiz?19:01
stevemarlbragstad: it needs a rebase :\ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374479/19:01
stevemarlbragstad: it got all messy cause of the whole PKI being used to get revocation lists business19:02
lbragstadah19:03
stevemarlbragstad: feel free to pick it up?19:07
stevemarlbragstad: i know breton picked it up at one point19:07
openstackgerritayoung proposed openstack/keystone: Support AD Nested groups  https://review.openstack.org/38931619:26
ayoungWhat do we need to do to kill PKI?19:26
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/keystone: Clarifying on the remove of `build_auth_context` middleware  https://review.openstack.org/39106919:37
stevemarayoung went offline :(19:39
lbragstadI was just about to start responding, too19:39
lbragstadayo<tab><tab><tab>19:39
openstackgerritJesse Keating proposed openstack/keystone: Add healthcheck middleware to pipelines  https://review.openstack.org/38773119:39
knikollahard to find a review not previously reviewed by stevemar :P19:45
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/keystone: Don't deprecate the LDAP property which is still needed  https://review.openstack.org/39107719:48
stevemarknikolla: i am the eye of sauron!19:48
stevemarbreton: you may want to check your email :)19:49
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knikollastevemar, can I assume only ubuntu for now for the Devstack plugin, shibboleth is a pain on anything else :(19:53
stevemarknikolla: lets start with that then19:53
knikollastevemar, roger. i'll have an initial review that federated with testshib to ensure that the steps are correct. Then a subsequent patch will install a real idp and i'll switch from testshib to that.19:55
stevemarsounds promising19:56
stevemari'll start poking at the ldap stuff, dtroyer showed me a few things to look at and some suggestions19:56
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lbragstadwas there an outcome regarding horizon revoking a token after a user switches projects and how that effects long running operations?20:03
robcresswelllbragstad: We've removed the token revocation from master20:04
robcresswelllbragstad: There is a patch to remove from stable too.20:04
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lbragstadrobcresswell ah - so now if I switch projects in horizon my token won't be revoked, right?20:05
openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed openstack/keystone: Add api-ref /auth/tokens/OS-PKI/revoked (v3)  https://review.openstack.org/39090420:05
stevemarlbragstad: this should be ready https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390904/320:05
robcresswelllbragstad: Right :)20:06
lbragstadrobcresswell awesome!20:07
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openstackgerritSamuel Pilla proposed openstack/keystone: Document v2 Revoked Token Route  https://review.openstack.org/39091320:25
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openstackgerritSamuel Pilla proposed openstack/keystone: Document v2 Revoked Token Route  https://review.openstack.org/39091320:26
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bretonlbragstad: there is a serie of action items on removing PKI20:57
bretonlbragstad: morgan had a great plan in that review20:57
bretonstevemar: cool! I'll do my best.20:58
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lbragstadis morgan_ around?21:02
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openstackgerritJesse Keating proposed openstack/keystone: Add healthcheck middleware to pipelines  https://review.openstack.org/38773121:07
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stevemargagehugo: is samuel pilla on irc?21:38
stevemargagehugo: not sure why he -W'ed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390913/21:38
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lamt@stevemar : I think he -W'ed because it has the same selector as the v3 patch21:44
stevemarlamt: eh, just add a v2 and call it a day21:45
openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed openstack/keystone: Document v2 Revoked Token Route  https://review.openstack.org/39091321:45
stevemarthere we go21:45
lamtstevemar : thanks, this should be fixed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-doc-tools/+bug/1583623 so it doesn't conflict as much in the docs21:46
openstackLaunchpad bug 1583623 in openstack-doc-tools "os-api-ref: duplicate labels for selectors" [Undecided,New]21:46
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stevemarlamt: let's not wait around for it :)21:48
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/keystone: Add api-ref /auth/tokens/OS-PKI/revoked (v3)  https://review.openstack.org/39090422:01
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stevemarlbragstad: want to punt this one through? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385028/22:09
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lbragstadstevemar yeah i can review it22:23
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stevemarthanks lbragstad22:33
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gagehugostevemar: yeah what lamt said22:41
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openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed openstack/keystone-specs: Add reason to notifications for PCI-DSS events  https://review.openstack.org/38130222:58
openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed openstack/keystone-specs: Target Fernet key store to Ocata  https://review.openstack.org/36306523:00
openstackgerritMerged openstack/keystone-specs: Target Fernet key store to Ocata  https://review.openstack.org/36306523:05
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