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| morgan_503 | notmyname: does anyone really pass swift's cache object into keystonemiddleware? it make things really awful in our code. | 00:30 |
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| morgan_503 | notmyname: if we could drop the swift memcache thing on the floor it would make keystonemiddleware a lot less bizzare/hard to understand. | 00:31 |
| * morgan_503 can probably work around this... | 00:31 | |
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| jamielennox | morgan_503: have you seen my reviews or going at this yourself? | 00:56 |
| morgan_503 | jamielennox: trying to convert over to dogpile | 00:56 |
| morgan_503 | jamielennox: this whole thing is a total trainwreck | 00:56 |
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| jamielennox | morgan_503: right, but i at least got rid of memorycache and wanted to check you weren't doing the same thing | 00:56 |
| morgan_503 | jamielennox: uh that is the same thing | 00:57 |
| morgan_503 | but it's using oslo_cache and dogpile | 00:57 |
| morgan_503 | and baking the secure/crypt stuff inline rather than a magical factory needing class | 00:57 |
| morgan_503 | basically this change will make _cache drop on the floor almost 100% of the code | 00:57 |
| jamielennox | morgan_503: start approving from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212341/2 and then build on top | 00:57 |
| jamielennox | excellent, still look at that stuff first | 00:58 |
| morgan_503 | ugh | 00:58 |
| morgan_503 | sorry just looking at your code, if we approve that chain as is it'll make the refactor i'm doing much more difficult | 00:59 |
| morgan_503 | i thin | 00:59 |
| morgan_503 | k | 00:59 |
| morgan_503 | the fact that we need to take args from paste-ini and possibly a random cache object from the env makes this just nightmareish nomatter what | 00:59 |
| * morgan_503 is grumpy about this whole thing. | 01:00 | |
| morgan_503 | because it has been so bad for so long | 01:00 |
| jamielennox | morgan_503: did you see the thread on the ML about paste arguments/ | 01:00 |
| morgan_503 | i saw you sent one | 01:00 |
| morgan_503 | didn't read the responses | 01:00 |
| morgan_503 | but i assume it was a lot of "I USE THIS AND LIKE IT SO NEYAH" | 01:00 |
| jamielennox | i finished with, i know global oslo.config sucks but i'm not sure i want to redesign everything because aodh decides it wants to make a stand | 01:01 |
| * morgan_503 reads some responses about that stuff as more petulant than they really are | 01:01 | |
| jamielennox | which was a little harsh | 01:01 |
| jamielennox | but they rapid approved a whole bunch of changes through oslo middleware which i guess we're now going to have support eventually | 01:01 |
| morgan_503 | we could just say "keystonemiddleware is no longer taking paste-ini arguments, you can either pass a constructed conf object to it, or we take global conf" | 01:01 |
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| morgan_503 | and deprecate the paste-ini args | 01:02 |
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| morgan_503 | if oslo_config had a "load / validate opts from dict" and you got a conf object out the other end, it might solve the "global conf" complaints | 01:06 |
| morgan_503 | our requirement is a config object. you can hand it to us or not, but it needs to be formulated like oslo_config | 01:06 |
| morgan_503 | i did agree with the "no we don't want to just take kwargs" | 01:06 |
| jamielennox | morgan_503: sorry, back - call | 01:14 |
| morgan_503 | wb | 01:14 |
| jamielennox | morgan_503: so i had a plan to make AuthProtocol take everything as kwargs | 01:15 |
| morgan_503 | yeah i'll go through your reviews and see how i can rip out the awful cache stuff. | 01:15 |
| morgan_503 | it's still icky. | 01:15 |
| morgan_503 | :( | 01:15 |
| jamielennox | and then have a factory function which populated the kwargs from CONF | 01:15 |
| jamielennox | because there's the zaqaar problem which i think is a real problem | 01:15 |
| jamielennox | and then the aodh, which i'm not convinced on | 01:15 |
| morgan_503 | i would like it if we could make them populate the oslo_config object instead and hand us an object | 01:15 |
| morgan_503 | to our constructor. | 01:15 |
| morgan_503 | if they aren't going to let us use normal file loading stuff | 01:16 |
| morgan_503 | or at leas that the kwargs => oslo_config object was something we did from oslo_conf vs. building code ourselves in ksm | 01:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystonemiddleware: Prevent a UnicodeDecodeError in the s3token middleware https://review.openstack.org/179777 | 01:17 |
| jamielennox | morgan_503: i feel like we should ditch paste | 01:17 |
| jamielennox | or at least if you use paste you understand what that means | 01:18 |
| morgan_503 | i'd be happy with that. | 01:18 |
| jamielennox | and if something is a required part of the deployment even if it's implemented as middleware it hsouldn't be in paste | 01:18 |
| morgan_503 | to be fair, i think we should just *not* support paste-ini options. you can load auth_protocol and pass it an obj (or use a constructor) for pecan-isms | 01:18 |
| jamielennox | having code break or things not function because you got your paste pipeline in a weird order is just wrong | 01:18 |
| morgan_503 | in keystone i don't think we can ditch paste | 01:19 |
| morgan_503 | but we *should* have all of our APIs as "keystone" entry | 01:19 |
| jamielennox | morgan_503: in tokyo i'll buy you and PTL a beer and tell you that massive refactor i want to do around how keystone is started and loaded :) | 01:20 |
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| morgan_503 | hehe | 01:23 |
| jamielennox | anyway - if that memcache stuff gets in the way of just ripping it out then do your thing | 01:24 |
| jamielennox | but there shouldn't be a compatibiilty issue | 01:24 |
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| morgan_503 | nah. your stuff makes sense i think i can use it | 01:25 |
| morgan_503 | just need to rethink some stuff | 01:25 |
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| mordred | yay it's jamielennox ! | 01:46 |
| jamielennox | oh o | 01:46 |
| mordred | jamielennox: did you see the scrollback convo about naming the thing in ksc/ksa "admin_token" ? | 01:47 |
| jamielennox | mordred: no, i had what i think was a bad gtk3 update so i've been connected & disconnected a bunch of times | 01:48 |
| jamielennox | might be there and i lost the notification or might have lost scrollback | 01:48 |
| mordred | awesome | 01:48 |
| mordred | so - tl;dr https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:auth-token-rename,n,z | 01:48 |
| mordred | and also, the idea is taht to deal with teh osc/ksc issues around people who are trying to use token_endpoint to do keystone bootstrapping | 01:49 |
| mordred | to just expose the ksc class as a plugin called "admin_token" | 01:49 |
| mordred | so that we don't have two different things called token_endpoint - and so that it's clear that the thing caled admin_token is keystone's and it has two clear parameters | 01:50 |
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| jamielennox | kind of agree with terry, i like token_endpoint better, but to be honest if it solves the problem i don't care | 01:51 |
| jamielennox | and maybe it makes it more obvious as it took me a while to convince someone the other day from the puppet side of things that the ADMIN_TOKEN isn't a real token | 01:51 |
| jamielennox | there is no service catalog or anything like that | 01:51 |
| mordred | yah. that' the reason I disagree with osc that the param should be called "url"' | 01:52 |
| mordred | since url is an auth-url and I'd expect a catalog from that | 01:52 |
| jamielennox | the other thing we could do is just deprecated --endpoint to --url | 01:52 |
| jamielennox | meh - k | 01:52 |
| jamielennox | i feel this is a problem where auth competes with other parameters | 01:52 |
| mordred | yah- the UI around pluggable auth and the parameters auth takes is ... interesting | 01:53 |
| jamielennox | because i think there is a valid case where you want to provide --os-url as a bypass/override url to use instead of the catalog | 01:53 |
| jamielennox | mordred: oh, also we merged removing oslo.config from ksa the other day, you might want to take a look at what you use from the old options | 01:54 |
| mordred | woot! | 01:54 |
| jamielennox | for example i know that there is currently no "required" parameter and we need to add it back | 01:54 |
| jamielennox | but that's into a larger topic around plugin validation | 01:54 |
| mordred | ooh, that'll be fun | 01:54 |
| morgan_503 | mordred: i didnt push the ksa change for the plugins until we get ksc one changing brw | 01:54 |
| morgan_503 | Btw* | 01:55 |
| morgan_503 | just wanted to make sure those two stayed as close to in-sync as it can | 01:55 |
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| jamielennox | morgan_503: we didn't merge that? | 01:55 |
| morgan_503 | jamielennox: the ksc plugin new name thing? | 01:55 |
| morgan_503 | i needed an extra core iirc | 01:55 |
| jamielennox | oh, changing the name in ksc | 01:56 |
| jamielennox | ok | 01:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/keystoneauth: Finalize rename of token_endpoint to admin_token https://review.openstack.org/213385 | 01:56 |
| morgan_503 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213376/ | 01:56 |
| morgan_503 | just wanted to be sure ksc was making the name available | 01:57 |
| morgan_503 | the rest of the stuff we can eaisly land | 01:57 |
| morgan_503 | so if you're good with that | 01:57 |
| morgan_503 | and toss +a on the ksc one we can land the ones mordred proposed for ksa | 01:57 |
| jamielennox | yea, i'm ok | 01:57 |
| jamielennox | i gave it a +2, figured we're both kind of close to this maybe someone else should see if it makes sense - but whateer | 01:58 |
| morgan_503 | nah | 01:58 |
| morgan_503 | we're just adding aname | 01:58 |
| morgan_503 | not removing the old one | 01:58 |
| jamielennox | mordred: so i want to figure out how we can better support what OCC does from ksa | 01:58 |
| jamielennox | something i have now is https://github.com/openstack/keystoneauth/blob/master/keystoneauth1/loading/base.py#L113 | 01:59 |
| jamielennox | where the plugin should be able to refine the process of being loaded from CLI | 02:00 |
| jamielennox | a real example of this is: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191639/ | 02:00 |
| jamielennox | though that is massively out of date | 02:00 |
| jamielennox | i'm thinking that maybe having that as a method on the loader object is a bad idea | 02:01 |
| mordred | yah. also - please make it possible to disable that | 02:01 |
| jamielennox | well the thinking was there it iwll only ever get triggered from CLI and only if there is a tty | 02:02 |
| mordred | oh- wait - you look for tty | 02:02 |
| jamielennox | in the "i want this to work for every CLI app" it seemed reasonable | 02:02 |
| mordred | yah - I think that's the flipside of the same problem for sure | 02:02 |
| jamielennox | but i want to see how we can support OSC in the same way and i'm not sure how it would work | 02:03 |
| jamielennox | you end up doing what OSC does in looking for special cases to provide added info | 02:03 |
| morgan_503 | mordred: approved ksc change and ksa (entry point one) | 02:03 |
| mordred | w00t! | 02:03 |
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| mordred | jamielennox: I'll take a spin at the interaction between ksa and what occ is doing for params | 02:04 |
| mordred | (I have many more hours on a plane today) | 02:04 |
| morgan_503 | mordred: i'm ok with renaming the actual plugin but i'd be inclined to say we should name it something more intuitive unless it only should ever be used for "admin token" | 02:05 |
| jamielennox | for another point i found this nugget yesterday: https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/service.py#L51-L90 | 02:05 |
| morgan_503 | jamielennox: ... | 02:06 |
| morgan_503 | jamielennox: ooooh boy | 02:06 |
| jamielennox | where not only do they hardcode v2 arguments they default it from the ENVIRON | 02:06 |
| mordred | oy | 02:06 |
| jamielennox | which is a whole new loading pattern i've not encountered on a service before | 02:07 |
| jamielennox | anyway, maybe for KSA 1.0 i might just remove the load_from_argparse on the plugin object | 02:08 |
| morgan_503 | well at least they stopped naming it "glance_<thing>" https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/commit/70c73dbf9a0961e336c3546933aa30ef350ae85e | 02:08 |
| jamielennox | and later we'll come up with some way for OCC and other mechanisms to register any additional work that needs to be done for a plugin | 02:09 |
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| morgan_503 | jamielennox: i think that is a good plan | 02:09 |
| morgan_503 | we can *add* it without breaking compat | 02:09 |
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| mordred | jamielennox: turns out I don't need required/nt (or don't use it right now) | 02:10 |
| jamielennox | anyway, my point was mordred in looking at how ksa and OCC work together i'd like to integrate them more closely so if you see a way that works i'd be keen | 02:10 |
| mordred | jamielennox: although if there were required/optional flags, that would be neat | 02:10 |
| jamielennox | yep, required and secret are the two that come to mind | 02:10 |
| mordred | oh! nope. I lied | 02:10 |
| mordred | I do use required currently | 02:11 |
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| mordred | it's the only thing missing from the current code. however, I think I can add a method to ksa that would let me just call it from occ and remove a pile of code | 02:12 |
| jamielennox | mordred: just add the parameter to ksa.loading.opts | 02:13 |
| mordred | yah. some patches incoming | 02:13 |
| mordred | :) | 02:13 |
| jamielennox | it's needed (trying not to say required) i just haven't go to it | 02:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/keystoneauth: Mark tenant-name and tenant-id deprecate https://review.openstack.org/213475 | 02:17 |
| morgan_503 | jamielennox: +2 on the session thing, but mordred and lbragstad had questions | 02:17 |
| morgan_503 | jamielennox: also +2/+A'd terry's cleanup of exceptions | 02:18 |
| jamielennox | morgan_503: i'm happy to clean that up | 02:18 |
| mordred | jamielennox: yah - are we expecting pluggable sessions? | 02:18 |
| morgan_503 | just inline questions nothing that blocked it | 02:18 |
| mordred | (plugin interfaces scare me) | 02:18 |
| morgan_503 | but wanted to give you a chance to answer them before +A | 02:18 |
| jamielennox | also, i think what we'll do is just provide a wrapper function that creates a Session() object | 02:18 |
| jamielennox | and then loads it | 02:18 |
| jamielennox | ie, keep the loader object but hide it | 02:18 |
| morgan_503 | jamielennox: I prefer clearly defined interfaces for loading | 02:18 |
| jamielennox | i don't want people to define their own methods their | 02:19 |
| morgan_503 | ++ | 02:19 |
| jamielennox | i just want to share the code between everything that is "loadable" | 02:19 |
| morgan_503 | yes no "custom" sessions please; use an adapter for that | 02:19 |
| jamielennox | still wish i had a better name than adapter | 02:19 |
| morgan_503 | there are worse names | 02:19 |
| morgan_503 | you could name it fluffy_bunny_foo_foo and people would live | 02:20 |
| morgan_503 | btw: i didn't see why you -1'd https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196297/ jamielennox | 02:21 |
| mordred | morgan_503: nope. pretty sure humans would die | 02:21 |
| morgan_503 | mordred: oh i said people would live, nothing about humans | 02:21 |
| morgan_503 | :P | 02:21 |
| jamielennox | morgan_503: oh that was a while ago | 02:21 |
| * morgan_503 renames the adapter to "angry_emu" | 02:21 | |
| jamielennox | morgan_503: pre the understanding that this was ksc 2 not just depending on ksa | 02:21 |
| jamielennox | if it's ksc2 lets ditch it | 02:21 |
| morgan_503 | yeah it's ksc2 | 02:22 |
| morgan_503 | we can have rel_mngrs do a "new branch name" if we want | 02:22 |
| jamielennox | morgan_503: so you took a bit much with that patch, for example ksc/auth/cli is loading from cli which is still used | 02:22 |
| jamielennox | but it'll go to ksa | 02:22 |
| morgan_503 | the original one was much more targeted | 02:22 |
| jamielennox | i'm not too worried about git history here, whether you just want a "delete everything" patch | 02:23 |
| morgan_503 | but i yanked in dolphm's patch too' | 02:23 |
| morgan_503 | i'm ok if we need to respin part of it | 02:23 |
| morgan_503 | :) | 02:24 |
| morgan_503 | but i do want a "ditch cli" patch or two | 02:24 |
| morgan_503 | or five. | 02:24 |
| jamielennox | the only problem with a delete everything patch is you'll need to do a bunch of test work | 02:24 |
| * morgan_503 doesn't care if it's "one" patch | 02:24 | |
| morgan_503 | or many | 02:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/keystoneauth: Add required property to Opt class https://review.openstack.org/213476 | 03:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/keystoneauth: Port in the argument scrubbing from OCC https://review.openstack.org/213477 | 03:04 |
| mordred | jamielennox, morgan_503 ^^ there you go - stil needs work prolly , byt tat's my first thought | 03:04 |
| morgan_503 | ooh nea | 03:04 |
| morgan_503 | t | 03:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-keystoneclient: Expose token_endpoint.Token as admin_token https://review.openstack.org/213376 | 03:05 |
| morgan_503 | the scrubbing is cool | 03:06 |
| morgan_503 | going to need to look harder at it though | 03:06 |
| jamielennox | mordred: first fine, why not just incorporate validate into https://github.com/openstack/keystoneauth/blob/master/keystoneauth1/loading/base.py#L88 ? | 03:07 |
| jamielennox | do you expect you'll want it seperately? | 03:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystoneauth: Use human readable exception messages https://review.openstack.org/212670 | 03:47 |
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| mordred | jamielennox: yah ... I currently use it to validate the params that have been passed in before I get into the middle of doing work | 04:45 |
| mordred | (I thought about doing it in the loader ... will definite spend more brain cycles on if I can make that be a win) | 04:47 |
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| jamielennox | mordred: i guess this is part of why i would prefer OCC just return a plugin object, the validation would happen at that time | 04:47 |
| jamielennox | rather than doing multiple steps of looking at options dictionaries | 04:47 |
| mordred | sure ... I'll look at that too | 04:49 |
| mordred | I don't have an intuitive feel for what that would be like yet. | 04:49 |
| jamielennox | mordred: how do you combine yaml dicts in OCC? | 04:50 |
| jamielennox | if you have for example the dreamhost.yaml file, how do you say "use these options from dreamhost with this extra stuff" | 04:50 |
| jamielennox | i know there is a standard yaml way to do it but it doesn't seem to be used | 04:51 |
| mordred | we just to it in python | 04:52 |
| mordred | start with the dreamhost dict, merge addition options overtop (doing deep merge so that subdicts work) | 04:53 |
| mordred | we actually start with defaults | 04:54 |
| mordred | then merge dreamhost. then user data | 04:54 |
| jamielennox | kk, trying to figure something out there - just not sure what exactly | 04:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/keystone: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/212359 | 06:07 |
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