| openstackgerrit | David Stanek proposed openstack/keystone: Get method's class name in a python3-compatible way https://review.openstack.org/158777 | 00:03 |
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| dstanek | sorry :-( | 00:07 |
| openstackgerrit | David Stanek proposed openstack/keystone: pycadf now supports Python3 https://review.openstack.org/177407 | 00:07 |
| openstackgerrit | David Stanek proposed openstack/keystone: Handles Python3 builtin changes https://review.openstack.org/177411 | 00:07 |
| openstackgerrit | David Stanek proposed openstack/keystone: eventlet now supports Python3 https://review.openstack.org/177406 | 00:07 |
| openstackgerrit | David Stanek proposed openstack/keystone: Fixes use of dict methods for Python3 https://review.openstack.org/177410 | 00:07 |
| openstackgerrit | David Stanek proposed openstack/keystone: Replaced filter with a list comprehension https://review.openstack.org/177405 | 00:07 |
| openstackgerrit | David Stanek proposed openstack/keystone: Updates the *py3 requirements files https://review.openstack.org/177409 | 00:07 |
| openstackgerrit | David Stanek proposed openstack/keystone: Ignore multiple imports per line for six.moves https://review.openstack.org/177404 | 00:07 |
| openstackgerrit | David Stanek proposed openstack/keystone: Fixes mocking of oslo messaging for Python3 https://review.openstack.org/177408 | 00:07 |
| openstackgerrit | David Stanek proposed openstack/keystone: Fixes deprecations test for Python3 https://review.openstack.org/177415 | 00:07 |
| openstackgerrit | David Stanek proposed openstack/keystone: Fixes order of imports for pep8 https://review.openstack.org/177403 | 00:07 |
| openstackgerrit | David Stanek proposed openstack/keystone: Add mocking for ldappool for Python3 tests https://review.openstack.org/177414 | 00:07 |
| openstackgerrit | David Stanek proposed openstack/keystone: pep8 whitespace changes https://review.openstack.org/177402 | 00:07 |
| openstackgerrit | David Stanek proposed openstack/keystone: Fixes a whitespace issue https://review.openstack.org/177413 | 00:07 |
| openstackgerrit | David Stanek proposed openstack/keystone: Handles modules that moved in Python3 https://review.openstack.org/177412 | 00:07 |
| openstackgerrit | David Stanek proposed openstack/keystone: basestring no longer exists in Python3 https://review.openstack.org/177418 | 00:07 |
| openstackgerrit | David Stanek proposed openstack/keystone: Add mocking for memcache for Python3 tests https://review.openstack.org/177417 | 00:07 |
| openstackgerrit | David Stanek proposed openstack/keystone: Refactor deprecations tests https://review.openstack.org/177416 | 00:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack/pycadf: Update from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/177509 | 01:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystone: Fixes cyclic ref detection in project subtree https://review.openstack.org/176304 | 01:57 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, OMG SPAM! | 02:06 |
| morganfainberg | :P | 02:06 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung-noms, uhm... | 02:06 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung-noms, you might be able to do that by ripping apart urllib/requests stuff | 02:07 |
| ayoung | do what? | 02:07 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: requests might have some debug options (library) | 02:07 |
| ayoung | ah | 02:07 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: if you're using python that is. | 02:07 |
| ayoung | yeah, I am using Python. Keystone client | 02:07 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: i don;t know if session has magic options [off the top of my head] to do that | 02:07 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: though debug should dump out that annoying curl line | 02:08 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: which should tell you things you need to know | 02:08 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, I just don't know how to set it...I'm not even using all of client just... | 02:08 |
| ayoung | will paste | 02:08 |
| ayoung | http://paste.openstack.org/show/205881/ | 02:09 |
| morganfainberg | ah | 02:11 |
| morganfainberg | might need to dig into the requests lib to see what is going on | 02:11 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, OK...verdict is in. HOt Toddy is better with Lime than with Lemon | 02:22 |
| morganfainberg | good to know | 02:22 |
| morganfainberg | how about +/- ginger? | 02:22 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, I keep forgetting that | 02:22 |
| ayoung | I don't have fresh ginger | 02:22 |
| morganfainberg | yerah would need to be fresh | 02:23 |
| ayoung | the toddy thing will be more important once you move to the north east | 02:23 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, so question. | 02:23 |
| ayoung | Fire away | 02:23 |
| morganfainberg | what is the interface type for our drivers | 02:23 |
| bknudson | did you know that you could wind up fast-forwarding a stable branch to master in a review? -- see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177436/ | 02:23 |
| morganfainberg | is it a ABI? API? Driver defined interface? something else? | 02:23 |
| bknudson | that scary | 02:24 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson: I saw. | 02:24 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson: makes me go "uuhh wut?!" | 02:24 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson: solution, rapidly break stable branches from ever being able to FF :P | 02:24 |
| bknudson | y, some kind of un-mergable change. | 02:25 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, Well, ABI would imply a degree of abstraction that we don't really have, but that was the goal, wasn't it? | 02:25 |
| bknudson | actually, changing .gitreview might do it. | 02:25 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: largely we are trying to say "here is the definition we expect" and "we will support this for X period of time via compat-code if we change/version the interface" | 02:26 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, the Driver portion of Core is really supposed to be like a .h file | 02:26 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: it's somewhere between ABI and API | 02:26 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung: correct. it's.. weird in python because python is runtime compiled | 02:27 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, of course, I ripped that to shreds when I split Assignment. Poor thingy | 02:27 |
| ayoung | dreamhost had all this custom identity backend code that I totally violated | 02:27 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: it's ok, we're using some super glue, gaffer tape (cause duct tape isn't as good), and twine | 02:27 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: trying to put it back together some | 02:27 |
| ayoung | blasphemy | 02:27 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: i know..i got yelled at for that :P | 02:27 |
| ayoung | duct tape is the force | 02:27 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: and the reason the universe is falling apart is because they should have used gaffer tape instead. | 02:28 |
| ayoung | You see those recent pictures of Hamill? It looks like he was actually Palpatine's son | 02:28 |
| morganfainberg | AHAHAHA | 02:28 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: so is ABI the correct term for this interface or do we call it something else? | 02:29 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: this is where not having a formal CS background hurts me some. | 02:29 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, ABI is native | 02:29 |
| morganfainberg | s/formal/more formal/ | 02:29 |
| ayoung | this is a dynamic language and it would be, I guess API | 02:30 |
| ayoung | We don't say that a driver has to descend from the base class, do we? | 02:30 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: we could call it an API but that seems wrong, it's something *we* define that is then consumed by us when provded by the 3rd party | 02:30 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: we will. | 02:30 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: driver *must* descend from the base class and provide matching Abstract methods, abstract method signatures, and abstract properties | 02:31 |
| morganfainberg | s/provide/define appropriately for abstract*/ | 02:32 |
| ayoung | its def not an ABI | 02:32 |
| morganfainberg | it's like an API but inverted | 02:32 |
| morganfainberg | since we're defining it. | 02:32 |
| morganfainberg | it's.. sideways maybe? | 02:33 |
| ayoung | no, it is an API | 02:33 |
| ayoung | it is the interface to which they code, in order to make sure their code complies with expectations | 02:33 |
| ayoung | the interface is the boundary, you can define both sides of it to vary independently | 02:34 |
| ayoung | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_programming_interface#API_in_object-oriented_languages | 02:34 |
| morganfainberg | meh call it Driver API i guess | 02:34 |
| ayoung | Yes | 02:35 |
| ayoung | You can add the word Python in there if you want to clarify | 02:35 |
| morganfainberg | also python's "Abstract Base Class" is really "Virtual Base Class" | 02:35 |
| ayoung | Not really | 02:35 |
| morganfainberg | yes. | 02:35 |
| ayoung | All Python inheritnacei Virtual | 02:35 |
| morganfainberg | since ABC is allowed to provide functionality with just the super cal | 02:35 |
| ayoung | so in that case it means nothing | 02:35 |
| morganfainberg | abstract by definition cannot have functionality | 02:36 |
| ayoung | Abstract means not implemented | 02:36 |
| ayoung | Virtual means that you always get the implementation of the subclass | 02:36 |
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| morganfainberg | python is allowed to have abstract methods with functionality, you *must* reference via super. it's somewhere [again] between abstract and virtual | 02:36 |
| ayoung | I've onoly seen non-virtual in C++ | 02:36 |
| morganfainberg | python is weird | 02:37 |
| ayoung | I've seen wierd. THis barely registers as interesting | 02:37 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: you're right.. BSN (a blizzard thing like protobuf but before protobuf) is wierd | 02:37 |
| morganfainberg | python is funky | 02:37 |
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| ayoung | You can reference a Super function by calling outhe whole namespce, I think. That would be non-virtual. If you have to explicitly pass the This pointer, its non-virtual | 02:38 |
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| morganfainberg | also coroutines make my head hurt when you remap stack pointers and try and debug it. | 02:38 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung: as long as you pass the self, i think it would work w/ the namespace | 02:38 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: call out that is | 02:38 |
| ayoung | yes | 02:39 |
| ayoung | anyway, we call this the Driver interface | 02:39 |
| ayoung | API if you must, but I think the A there is misplaced | 02:39 |
| morganfainberg | works for me | 02:39 |
| ayoung | and we are all programmers. So just I | 02:39 |
| morganfainberg | another one tossed around: Driver Defined Interface | 02:39 |
| morganfainberg | but that also feels wrongf | 02:39 |
| morganfainberg | but Driver Interface works for me. | 02:40 |
| * morganfainberg wants to make it clear this is *not* the API people interact with via clients/curl directly | 02:40 | |
| morganfainberg | even though we try and call it REST API, sometimes we drop REST | 02:40 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, thanks. | 02:41 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: brain hurts less now :) | 02:42 |
| ayoung | Python Driver Interface | 02:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Morgan Fainberg proposed openstack/keystone-specs: Add spec for 'stable driver abis' https://review.openstack.org/177428 | 02:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Morgan Fainberg proposed openstack/keystone-specs: Add spec for 'stable keystone driver interfaces' https://review.openstack.org/177428 | 02:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Morgan Fainberg proposed openstack/keystone-specs: Add spec for 'stable keystone driver interfaces' https://review.openstack.org/177428 | 02:54 |
| morganfainberg | grr typo | 02:54 |
| morganfainberg | doh! missed an "ABI" reference | 02:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Morgan Fainberg proposed openstack/keystone-specs: Add spec for 'stable keystone driver interfaces' https://review.openstack.org/177428 | 02:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Morgan Fainberg proposed openstack/keystone-specs: Add spec for python-3 compatibility https://review.openstack.org/177380 | 03:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystone-specs: Move kilo specs to 'implemented' section https://review.openstack.org/177377 | 03:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Morgan Fainberg proposed openstack/keystone-specs: Add spec for 'stable keystone driver interfaces' https://review.openstack.org/177428 | 06:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystone: Refactor common function for loading drivers https://review.openstack.org/166628 | 08:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dave Chen proposed openstack/keystone: Remove local conf information from paste-ini https://review.openstack.org/134124 | 08:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack/keystone: Fix sending invalid query parameters to database https://review.openstack.org/163949 | 12:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack/keystone: Fix sample policy to allow user to check own token https://review.openstack.org/164848 | 12:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack/keystone: Use stevedore for backend drivers https://review.openstack.org/166543 | 12:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack/keystone: Use short names for drivers https://review.openstack.org/166622 | 12:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack/keystone: Tests enforce use of stevedore loading https://review.openstack.org/171854 | 12:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack/keystone: Document policy target for operation https://review.openstack.org/168521 | 13:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack/keystone: Update sample config file https://review.openstack.org/171860 | 13:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack/keystone: Use stevedore for backend drivers https://review.openstack.org/166543 | 15:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack/keystone: Use short names for drivers https://review.openstack.org/166622 | 15:40 |
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