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| openstackgerrit | Daniel Bengtsson proposed openstack/pbr master: Add setuptools. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/pbr/+/760892 | 09:47 |
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| zbr | clarkb: fungi: this morning I was logged out again from gerrit. Now i know it was restarted again last night, but this should rule out me having a an old session. | 10:41 |
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| stephenfin | zbr: Are you commenting on Gerrit sessions only lasting 24 hours or so since the upgrade, because I'm seeing that too if so | 11:13 |
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| dtantsur | folks, are there any plans to block the new pip on stable branches? | 13:31 |
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| lyarwood | dtantsur: we've been talking about this in #openstack-nova btw | 13:45 |
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| lyarwood | dtantsur: we think it's due to the new version of virtualenv pulling in new pip within the venvs | 13:45 |
| lyarwood | elod is working on something to avoid this | 13:46 |
| lyarwood | FWIW there's also an issue on stable with the new release of bandit, just posting to ml about that now | 13:46 |
| dtantsur | lyarwood: good to know! | 13:46 |
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| bcafarel | nice I was about to ask similar question (just got my first failing gates on neutron victoria backports) | 15:01 |
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| clarkb | bcafarel: lyarwood: dtantsur: generally we've tried to avoid pinning pip beacuse you can't easily control what version of pip people end up using locally. This isn't universally true, when pip stopped being unable to uninstall system packages so that it coudl install its packages we had to pin for a while | 16:23 |
| dtantsur | but if we don't pin it, we end up raising requirements on stable branches, even crossing major boundaries | 16:24 |
| clarkb | ya ist going to be a trade off, I think mostly that discussion will need to happen with the stable team(s), requirements, and maybe with distros? | 16:24 |
| clarkb | I'm just pointing out why we do our best to avoid it | 16:24 |
| fungi | zbr: i too saw a need to reauthenticate, but there were two restarts in there... the second was quite likely an "unclean" stop which might have caused the session cache to get marked as dirty and ignored or something, needs more experimenting to narrow it down | 16:24 |
| fungi | dtantsur: the sane solution there is likely to acknowledge that what we're testing on stable branches is conformance with specific platforms, and sticking to the version of pip those platforms provide in their packages (our ensure-pip role does that by default now if you don't override it) | 16:26 |
| fungi | however, virtualenv is where a lot of folks are seeing issues, and the ensure-virtualenv role is installing latest virtualenv from pypi instead of distro packaged virtualenv | 16:27 |
| dtantsur | ah, that's the problem! | 16:27 |
| dtantsur | is there a reason we cannot use packaged virtualenv? | 16:28 |
| fungi | i do think it's worth looking into giving ensure-virtualenv that option, though at the moment it's also got some convoluted logic to prefer the venv module over the virtualenv tool where available | 16:28 |
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| clarkb | ya I think it is already preferring the system stuff | 16:29 |
| clarkb | but for pip specifically in those instances the pip is often too old to be useful | 16:29 |
| clarkb | on xenial I know you can't have a wheel mirror and a proper mirror set up at the same time because it finds the package does not exist in the wheel mirror and errors rather than looking in he proper mirror | 16:30 |
| fungi | right, it's a careful balance between stability and featureset | 16:30 |
| bcafarel | too bad "--use-deprecated=legacy-resolver" option will only be there for few weeks it could have been an option for stable branches | 16:43 |
| bcafarel | for neutron the patch is scary as it is for master but I guess it could pass for victoria - ussuri and older I am scared of looking | 16:44 |
| fungi | bcafarel: yes, the idea is that the old mechanism for calculating dependencies was patently broken, and so we weren't actually installing versions projects claimed they needed | 16:44 |
| fungi | the new dependency solver has, so far, only exposed actual bugs as far as i've seen | 16:45 |
| fungi | these were latent bugs exposed by a more complete solver implementation, so sweeping them under the rug is not a great idea | 16:46 |
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| mgoddard | gerrit down? | 17:46 |
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| fungi | mgoddard: it may be responding too slowly and causing errors at the web layer | 17:55 |
| fungi | we're trying to work out what's consuming all the resources (discussion ongoing in #opendev) | 17:55 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: The Gerrit service on review.opendev.org is currently responding slowly or timing out due to resource starvation, investigation is underway | 18:15 | |
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| fungi | zbr: interestingly, that gerrit restart just now did not log me out, so it's clearly not everyone every time | 18:44 |
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| * otherwiseguy assumes that gerrit is supposed to be down right now | 21:56 | |
| fungi | otherwiseguy: it's not supposed to be, but it's misbehaving badly. service management discussions are happening on #opendev as usual, if you were hoping to see what's transpiring | 21:57 |
| * otherwiseguy reads openstack-dev and nods his head | 21:57 | |
| otherwiseguy | fungi: wow. not only did i not read my email, i didn't read the motd in here. | 21:58 |
| otherwiseguy | I'm doing really well today. | 21:58 |
| otherwiseguy | :D | 21:58 |
| otherwiseguy | thanks! | 21:58 |
| fungi | heh | 21:58 |
| fungi | np | 21:58 |
| otherwiseguy | one more day until a nice long vacation. | 21:59 |
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| melwitt | does anyone know if we stopped including the ps output as one of the files under logs/ for job runs? | 22:07 |
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| fungi | i don't think we ever did that standard, it may have been something devstack added though? | 22:09 |
| melwitt | ok, that might explain why I have seen it sometimes and sometimes not | 22:11 |
| melwitt | thanks | 22:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Poornima Y N proposed openstack/project-config master: Integration of Secure Device onboard Rendezvous service on STX https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/765494 | 23:51 |
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