Wednesday, 2018-06-20

SpamapSand the way we know which one to SSH to is inventory.yml00:00
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ianwright, but really it's just adding a single line to your base job definitions once it merges?00:00
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fungii think it's more _knowing_ to add that line at roughly the same time you pull from zuul-jobs?00:01
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ianwclarkb: as i commented, IMO replacing the copy with a debug message seems to be about the best we can do to put something in the logs if people notice it disappearing, and a msg to zuul list00:03
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clarkbfungi: you can switch to the new log-inventory role at any time as its already there00:03
clarkbthen when we remove the task from validate-hosts you'll be set00:04
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fungiokay, so it's less a deprecation than a transition00:05
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ianwclarkb: if you'd like, i can draft an email about it.  it's yak shaving but i'd really like this info for the fedora hosts00:05
fungiand consumers need to know to transition to the new configuration before they pull the commit which removes the old?00:05
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ianwi'm writing something @ https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/inventory-copy00:06
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clarkbfungi: yes, though jobs will keep working aiui00:06
clarkbfungi: you just won't get the inventory log data00:06
fungiit's non-backward-compatible change boundaries like this which make me suspect we need to version and release these repos00:07
clarkbfungi: its not strictly not backward compatible everything will keep working00:07
fungiso that downstream consumers can pin to version ranges and get some implicit signalling of behavior changes00:07
clarkbspamaps will just have to tell his users what the ip addrs are00:07
fungidepends on what you consider backward-compatible then00:08
clarkbit is something we should do gracefully, but I don't expect jobs to start failing00:08
fungiit's a regression in behavior if you don't perform a coordinated step on upgrade, basically00:08
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clarkbianw: email lgtm00:21
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ianwclarkb: for our own sake, should we merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/563789/ to show that having the role in the base job co-existing is ok?00:22
clarkbianw: probably a reasonable idea, unfortunately we can't actually test it without trying it. I think the one concern would be that they conflict and refuse to write the file if it is already there, but I don't think absible will do that00:23
ianwoh, i see it's sort of stacked chicken-egg00:23
ianwSpamapS: are you in a position you could add "log-inventory" to the base job and ensure it works with the existing "validate-host" role as is?00:24
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mnaserwild idea00:27
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* ianw has just realised one kid left their lunch on the table, so had better go back to school and drop that off :/00:28
mnaserwhy doesn't zuul-jobs become a zuul deliverable on release00:28
mnaserianw: ouch, get goin with that :)00:28
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ianwmnaser: if it was a teachable moment about responsibility i'd let it slide, but the school doesn't let them starve (understandably i guess :) and they get stuff from the canteen and i get the bill.  so i'm not sure what the lesson is in that :)00:30
mnaserhahahha00:30
mnaserso its a lesson to you to bring it to them to avoid paying the bill00:30
mnasergotcha :p00:30
fungiianw: seems perhaps the lesson is yours, and you've learnt it ;)00:31
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corvusmnaser: well, our goal is for it to be continuously deliverable.  the deprecation policy is here: https://zuul-ci.org/docs/zuul-jobs/deprecation.html00:59
corvusianw: maybe add a date when the functionality will be removed from validate host?01:01
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corvusalso, we do have a process for testing changes to those roles.  copy the role to test-foo.   add test-foo to the test-base job.  do something with the test-base job (like reparent a python unit test job to it) to exercise.  if all works, copy test-foo to foo.01:04
corvusadmittedly, that is inconvenient, so minimizing the surface area of roles like that is good.  just wanted to clarify that we're not out of options in that case.01:05
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corvusmnaser: if folks don't want to keep up with zuul-jobs as CD, it should be easy to fork and pull updates on whatever schedule is convenient01:07
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corvus(i believe some people are cding, and some people are pulling periodically)01:08
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gildubHi, we have a feature branch on Neutron which need to be rebase against master. Can I do that myself or do I need Neutron core maintainers to do it?01:21
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clarkbgildub: the neutron acl says only neutron-release group can push the merge commits01:22
clarkbmlavalle, boden and garyk are in that group01:23
gildubclarkb, ok, I'll notify them thanks!01:23
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openstackgerritFergus Yu proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: Fix indent error for layout.yaml-sample.  https://review.openstack.org/57668402:52
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openstackgerritNguyen Van Trung proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: Add iscsi-boot element for CentOS images  https://review.openstack.org/54270804:05
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/zuul master: Add a CVE-2018-12557 release note  https://review.openstack.org/57654504:06
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SpamapSianw: yeah I could do that.06:26
SpamapSI'll look into it soonish.06:26
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ianwSpamapS: thanks!  will be great confirmation06:28
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SpamapSI haven't synced up with zuul-jobs in a few weeks anyway06:29
SpamapSgood to get the new stuff in06:30
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: Add uuid for vfat  https://review.openstack.org/57676507:17
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/irc-meetings master: Release the Nova API weekly meeting slot.  https://review.openstack.org/57639807:48
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/irc-meetings master: Move kolla weekly meeting one hour earlier  https://review.openstack.org/57501107:48
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-openstack_health master: Fix scope of vhost template variables  https://review.openstack.org/56486008:41
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fricklerinfra-root: mail from afs01.ord.openstack.org also bounces due to spamhaus. if we don't think it is worth unblocking, maybe it is worth not running exim at all on these?08:46
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openstackgerritTristan Cacqueray proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: github: prevent KeyError in getProjectBranches when rate limitted  https://review.openstack.org/57679909:13
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fricklerianw: are you still there? otherwise I'd update https://review.openstack.org/576351 for you09:23
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/zuul-base-jobs master: Add validate-host and log-inventory  https://review.openstack.org/57680209:28
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ianwfricker: oh, feel free to update, but we are going to wait on the testing i think, see http://lists.zuul-ci.org/pipermail/zuul-discuss/2018-June/000446.html09:30
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fricklerianw: ah, o.k., waiting for next week is fine for me, I just wanted to avoid seeing it blocked without a perspective ;)09:43
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openstackgerritJens Harbott (frickler) proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: Log output and exception when traceroute fails  https://review.openstack.org/57635109:45
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ianwfrickler: thanks for checking, and that's why i want to test it :)  i always manage to mis-type something10:10
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openstackgerritDavid Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/nodepool master: Add release note for paused handler fix  https://review.openstack.org/57682711:54
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fungifrickler: i receive those because my mailserver doesn't give much weight to the spamhaus pbl12:06
fungithat said, i don't think much of the daily cronspam generated by most of our servers is in any way useful as a notification. i filter them all into a mailbox i only ever browse if something's gone wrong12:07
ssbarneacan we get a +Workflow on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/571493/ ?12:07
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mordredfrickler, fungi: perhaps we should consider running an exim server that we configure low-volume emails hosts to send mail through?12:21
mordredso that we can go through the de-list procedure once for that server12:21
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fungiwe'll need to whitelist or authenticate them so it doesn't wind up as an open relay12:23
mordredyah12:26
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/nodepool master: Add release note for paused handler fix  https://review.openstack.org/57682712:43
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/zuul master: Fix indent error for layout.yaml-sample.  https://review.openstack.org/57668412:45
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openstackgerritsebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid-resources master: Fixed missing class ref  https://review.openstack.org/57684613:09
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/openstackid-resources master: Fixed missing class ref  https://review.openstack.org/57684613:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config master: Extend Cinder pylint timeout  https://review.openstack.org/57623813:19
openstackgerritTobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: Make streaming test run longer than connection timeout  https://review.openstack.org/57252213:19
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bodendhellmann ping if you get a sec13:21
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bodenhi, anybody have an idea as to why vmware-nsx queens builds wouldn’ve started failing recently with: Could not satisfy constraints for 'neutron-lbaas': installation from path or url cannot be constrained to a version13:22
bodenpossibly https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576526/  ??13:23
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fricklerboden: yes, that would trigger your error, can you point us to a failure?13:27
bodenfrickler http://logs.openstack.org/22/576822/1/check/openstack-tox-pep8/f001f1f/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-06-20_11_13_29_42032413:27
bodenfrickler basically all our queens jobs fail now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576822/13:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config master: Move openstack-python-jobs to os-api-ref repo  https://review.openstack.org/57518313:28
fricklerboden: o.k., there are two options, but I don't know which one would be correct, best ask in #openstack-requirements. a) revert that req chg, b) add code to your jobs to remove that line from the reqs when installing neutron-lbaas from source13:31
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fricklermordred: AJaeger: ^^ I think we had similar issues earlier with regard to neutron/horizon and tox-siblings, but I don't remember the outcome13:31
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AJaegerboden: sounds like you're using tox-install.sh or something like that, see what you did in master13:34
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fricklerfungi: mordred: or maybe have that mail server not relay mails at all, but just store them locally in a mailbox where folks could look at them when needed?13:35
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bodenAJaeger are you saying queens should mimic master in that it shouldn’t use tox-install.sh ?13:39
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AJaegerboden: it looks like you backported some changes but not all - that would explain the problem.13:39
AJaegerSo, removing tox-install.sh looks like best way forward.13:40
AJaegerboden: sorry, no time to dig into any of this; I'm busy with other stuff13:40
mordredfrickler: we could do - but I fear we'd never look at them13:40
bodenAJeager sure thanks…13:40
mordredboden: agree with AJaeger  - the tox_install.sh stuff is really realted to zuulv3 and not to a specific neutron-lbaas release, so I think backporting those changes should be a good idea13:41
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bodensigh, just when you thought you were done with zuul v3 changes :)13:42
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mordredboden: there is no escaping13:46
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fungifrickler: technically speaking, exim will already do that if we just switch the delivery type to "local" (though in that case, would make sense to also get rid of the forwarding aliases for root and just let it deliver to a local root mbox on each machine)13:53
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fungifrickler: but to reframe the discussion, i don't think we should spend time optimizing for the user-hostile quirks of a single isp we need to be thinking about relocating our servers out of anyway13:55
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fricklerfungi: I was thinking of one central mail machine to make scanning easier that having to look at each server individually13:56
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fricklerfungi: oh, o.k., that's maybe an even better option, didn't know that that existed13:56
mordredfungi: yah to relocating13:56
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mordredfungi: although that said - we could also _start_ that by putting a relay in a different location and configure our random things in the bad isp to route through it in the meantime13:57
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fungii'm still trying to find time to move my personal servers out of there13:58
mordredfungi: me too13:58
mordredfungi: I've got a half-started project for that13:58
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fungiyeah, my current plan is not to move to one new provider, but split my servers between a couple13:59
fungiget that cross-provider redundancy model going13:59
mordredfungi: yah. we should do that14:00
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mordredfungi: (by we, I meant corvus and I - not infra)14:06
fungifrom a base bionic image, `apt install mailman3-full` pulls in 155 packages14:09
fungigives me some idea of the complexity14:09
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bodenmordred hopefully an easy Q, but when I’m adding my “required-projects” to requirements.txt, how do I know which versions to use for queens??14:11
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fungiboden: if those projects have a stable/queens branch, then zuul will prepare refs for and check them out to their stable/queens branches whenever a change is being tested on stable/queens. if they don't have a stable/queens branch then zuul will use their master branches instead14:13
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fungithat's by default, anyway. there are also ways to override this behavior if, say, you have changes to the master branch of a project and you want certain jobs to perform backward-sompatible testing with them against stable/queens branches of some other project(s)14:14
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openstackgerritTomi Juvonen proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Zuul for New Fenix project  https://review.openstack.org/57139014:18
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bodenfungi sorry I must have not had enough coffee yet… in our master copy of requirements.txt we constrain our required-projects to version (e.g. neutron>12.0.0)… that said it seems I need to do the same for queens requirements.txt; guessing I look at queens requirements project and use whatever version is there?14:20
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fungiboden: oh, for tox-based jobs the tox-siblings role will perform source installs of any listed as required-projects in the job definition, using similar branch choices to what i described above14:21
bodenfungi so I don’t need to define the require-projects in requiremetns.txt like whats done here: https://github.com/openstack/vmware-nsx/blob/master/requirements.txt#L3314:22
AJaegerboden: you need to backport that as well...14:22
AJaegerboden: wait, sorry - misread file name14:23
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AJaegerboden: yes, taht needs backporting as well - now checked14:23
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AJaegerboden: that was introduced as part of the change to remove tox-install14:23
bodenAJaeger my question is still how do I know what version to specify for queens14:23
fungiif it's also in the required-projects list in the job, then it will get preinstalled into the tox env from source as long as our standard tox jobs are used14:23
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fungiso the version specifier there won't matter from a ci perspective as far as i know14:24
fungihowever you should include relevant version ranges for the benefit of anyone running tox locally14:24
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bodenadmittedly I’m confused.. I don’t even see those “required projects” listed in the queens upper-constraints.txt for openstack/requirements… I guess I’ll just have to start hacking and hope for the best14:26
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fungithey wouldn't be14:27
mnaseris there any examples of how to configure the pypi mirrors? i'm seeing openstack ansible jobs timeout and it looks like we're not using the pypi mirrors14:27
mnaserRetrying (Retry(total=4, connect=None, read=None, redirect=None, status=None)) after connection broken by 'ReadTimeoutError("HTTPSConnectionPool(host='pypi.python.org', port=443): Read timed out. (read timeout=120.0)",)': /simple/pip/14:27
openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: WIP: Only detach device if all partitions have been cleaned  https://review.openstack.org/57687614:27
bodenclear as mud :)14:28
fungiboden: what i mean is, neutron isn't tracked in upper-constraints.txt in the openstack/requirements repository because it only releases at the end of a cycle and isn't (or wasn't until recently?) installable from pypi14:29
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bodenfungi thx.. prob best for me to hack something up and then bug you guys for a review… feel like that maybe more productive14:30
fungimnaser: we set them in pip.conf using this role https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/zuul-jobs/tree/roles/configure-mirrors14:30
mnaserfungi: wonderful, i will see how i can integrate that functionality14:31
mnaseri bet this will speed up jobs so much14:32
fungimnaser: particularly the ~/.pydistutils.cfg and /etc/pip.conf files installed by that role, for which you can also find the corresponding jinja2 templates there14:32
* mnaser is excited14:32
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clarkbit should already be done for you too. If this is happening in a container you can/probably should bind mount the config on the host14:35
openstackgerritsebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid-resources master: Fix added default summit event types  https://review.openstack.org/57688014:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/openstackid-resources master: Fix added default summit event types  https://review.openstack.org/57688014:36
fungiboden: yeah, it's a bit hacky because most of this is designed around a model of projects having requirements which are versioned libraries. when you're developing something which needs another project installed from source to be able to run (e.g. you're writing a plugin for that) and you're trying to track unreleased state under development for that dependency it gets complicated (not just for14:36
fungiautomated testing but for developers themselves)14:36
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mnaserclarkb: yeah it's container fun, turns out we were using the cache one place and not using it another14:44
* mnaser would like to fix that some point and centralize OSA stuff14:45
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mnaserhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/576295/ -- this change is +W, dependency has merged, but it seems to refuse to enter gate upon +W14:55
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mnaserugh14:56
mnasersorry.14:56
mnaserthe change above it in the stack, my bad14:56
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clarkblooks like tripleo has a large gate queue but zuul doesn't have a large number of outstanding node requests. Thank you to tripleo for addressing the gating issues and for vexxhost and packethost/platform9 for adding some test capacity recently. http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/zuul-status looks quite happy15:11
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mordredclarkb: \o/15:12
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pabelangerclarkb: wonder if we need to reach out to ovh and look at gra1 region, a few launch failures: http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/nodepool-ovh15:16
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pabelangerhaven't looked but maybe no server failures again15:16
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clarkbya step 1 is probably see what nodepool can tell us about the errors15:16
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openstackgerritsebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid-resources master: Added get my speaker endpoint  https://review.openstack.org/57688915:18
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/openstackid-resources master: Added get my speaker endpoint  https://review.openstack.org/57688915:19
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openstackgerritMatthieu Huin proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: [WIP] web: add tenant-scoped autohold, enqueue  https://review.openstack.org/57690716:26
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openstackgerritMatthieu Huin proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: [WIP] web: add tenant-scoped autohold, enqueue  https://review.openstack.org/57690717:18
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient master: Update Private Label  https://review.openstack.org/55057219:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient master: Fix syntax highlighting  https://review.openstack.org/54820219:47
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient master: Make $scope.project into a promise in the detail view  https://review.openstack.org/54824319:59
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient master: Support project name in project detail URLs  https://review.openstack.org/54824420:00
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient master: Link to projects by name rather than ID  https://review.openstack.org/54834320:00
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openstackgerritMatthieu Huin proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: [WIP] web: add tenant-scoped autohold, enqueue  https://review.openstack.org/57690720:19
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openstackgerritMatthieu Huin proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: [WIP] web: add tenant-scoped autohold, enqueue  https://review.openstack.org/57690720:49
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TheJuliaOut of curiosity, has there ever been any pondering of another transport mechanism to allow contributors behind firewalls to submit contributions without headaches?21:35
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TheJuliaSpecifically "ssh: connect to host review.openstack.org port 29418: Network is unreachable" kind of fun but the webui is accessible and works just fine21:37
clarkbTheJulia: you can push over https21:38
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clarkbset your gerrit remote to the https destination and it should just work iirc21:39
TheJuliaclarkb: do we have destructions for contributors on how to correctly make that change so they don't have headaches constantly?21:39
* TheJulia gives that a shot21:39
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clarkbI've written it down before on a mailing list thread a out getting around the great firewall of china21:40
clarkbin general though it is less easy because you have to use an http api key from gerrit21:40
clarkbalso we cant anticipate every broken flavor of corporate network21:41
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* TheJulia watches it think21:43
TheJuliayeah, https transport would generally be easiest I suspect, but yeah21:43
clarkbits not due to how auth works21:43
clarkbssh key is set and forget21:43
TheJuliaohhh, that seemed to work21:43
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clarkbhttp api key not so much21:43
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TheJuliaclarkb: am I going to cry when I try to push back into review from behind the great firewall?21:44
clarkbshould work over https from there21:44
clarkbssh did not work at one time bug unsure of curre tly21:44
clarkbwe have changed IPs a couple times since I last heard if it worked21:45
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TheJuliaclarkb: still works, I just had to go lookup my http password21:47
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fungihow are we handling retrieving the git commit hook with git-review over https?21:52
clarkbyou can fetch that over http(s) too. I think its the biggesg missing piece in git review itself21:53
clarkbsince it scps it iirc21:53
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openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Simplify group_names variable  https://review.openstack.org/57699521:54
fungiin my opinion the selling point on ssh based push is that you can encrypt your ssh key so it's not sitting around in the clear on the filesystem21:55
fungiwe'd have to engineer something to get similar at-rest encryption for the https auth password21:55
mnaserreview.openstack.org took too long to respond.21:58
TheJuliaYeah, it is no longer loading in beijing21:59
* TheJulia wonders if we could have distributed git review21:59
* TheJulia ducsk21:59
mnasernot loading in montreal either21:59
mnaser:P21:59
clarkbIt did this the other day too21:59
clarkbI'm not quite home yet so cant look right this moment22:00
mnaserit's been very sluggish lately imho22:00
mnaserfriendly infra-root ping :)22:00
* TheJulia makes second cup of coffee22:01
fungii'm in the middle of dinner, but a couple of days ago when it got slow i didn't see much out of the ordinary reported by javamelody22:02
TheJuliait is responding again22:03
TheJuliamust have been in a long GC cycle22:03
corvusya, web and ssh wfm now22:04
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fungilast time i _did_ see some sustained write activity on the filesystem where it keeps its git repos22:04
fungisuggesting it might be the background git gc activity?22:04
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corvusit's possible that just me logging into the server spooked it into working.  i don't think we should dismiss that possibility.22:04
fungii used to scare servers into working, so i totally believe that22:05
mnaserdon't yell at your servers22:05
funginah, i usually just threatened them with some variety of mechanical violence22:06
fungilike a trip to the degausser22:06
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fungior sending them to the back room to be stripped for parts22:07
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fungior even just good old-fashioned percussive maintenance22:09
TheJuliawell, I don't know how the jvm is doing the socket activity on it, but I seem to remember jvms in in GC will take sockets... where as it seemed to just time out on the initial socket creation22:09
TheJuliafungi: that would be electromagnetic violence... not mechanical ;)22:09
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fungiyeah, we've seen sluggishness from java garbage collection too (not so bad as in prior releases) but a couple days ago when i looked i didn't see any sign it was spending cycles on java gc22:11
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fungii'll check the graphs again here in a bit once dishes are done22:11
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openstackgerritMatthieu Huin proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: [WIP] web: add tenant-scoped autohold, enqueue  https://review.openstack.org/57690722:25
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Bump packethost max servers to 100  https://review.openstack.org/57701623:58
clarkbianw: fungi ^ fyi. I know one of the things packethost/platform9 are looking for is recognition for the resources and we've stated that 100 test instances is the requirement for that. We have quota for that so lets go ahead and use it and make them happy at the same time?23:58

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