Saturday, 2018-03-31

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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: base-test: Validate test-emit-job-header work  https://review.openstack.org/55794800:22
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Revert "base-test: Validate test-emit-job-header work"  https://review.openstack.org/55794900:22
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/nodepool master: Enable AFS mirrors for ubuntu-bionic testing  https://review.openstack.org/55801500:30
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/nodepool master: Enable AFS mirrors for ubuntu-bionic testing  https://review.openstack.org/55801502:29
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openstackgerritXinliang Liu proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Add debian arm64 nodes to linaro-cn1 cloud  https://review.openstack.org/55790202:32
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openstackgerritBernd Bausch proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: Add clarity to *Zuul from Scratch* instructions  https://review.openstack.org/55634402:43
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openstackgerritXinliang Liu proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Add debian stretch nodes to arm64/amd64 clouds  https://review.openstack.org/55790204:38
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slaweqcorvus: hi, thx for checking and for confirmation that all is fine :)07:50
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kashyapsmcginnis: Hi, is the release name "Stein" for sure?13:16
kashyap(If so, I'll send another email for clarity; instead of "Solar")13:18
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fungikashyap: yes, see http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/128899.html13:27
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* kashyap clicks13:27
kashyapfungi: Darn, that email went into 'openstack-operators' maildir13:28
fungii think it got sent to several lists13:29
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kashyapfungi: Thanks!13:30
kashyapfungi: What I meant was my local filtering rules did that13:30
kashyapWhen 'cross-posted', the mail didn't go into _both_ maildirs (-dev, and -operators)13:30
fungiahh13:31
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kashyapfungi: What is the best ML practise here --13:32
kashyapClose my existing thread, and start a new one?13:32
kashyapThis one: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/128922.html13:33
kashyapI was thinking of sending one last reply on that old thread, with two things:13:33
fungiif you're extra worried i would just correct the subject in a reply. honestly i think everyone knew what you meant and smcginnis was just trolling you a little13:34
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kashyap(a) Change the subject line of the old thread to be: "CLOSED; refer to the 'Stein' release thread"13:34
kashyap(b) Write a new thread with correct release name.13:34
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kashyapAh, okay then: Instead of starting a new thread, I'll just rename the subject in my reply to "Stein"?13:35
fungii don't personally think there was any need to follow up to that thread at all. people likely read it as "whatever name the s release ends up with"13:35
kashyapHeh, okido, then.13:35
kashyapfungi: Because: I said: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/128934.html13:36
kashyap"I'll re-send this email with the correct13:36
kashyaprelease name for clarity."13:36
kashyapSo, I'll just send one last clarification, that I'll just retain that thread13:36
fungiour releases are sequentially named (following the order of the english alphabet) so at out current release cadence it'll be another 13 years before anyone who knows how our release names are applied could reasonably be confused by that13:37
fungibut sure, reply if you feel strongly you need to correct that ;)13:37
kashyapHeh, noted.  /me just likes to avoid confusion for readers, who go like: "He said he'll start a new thread; did he start, or did I miss?" :-)13:38
kashyapThx13:38
* kashyap stops belabouring this13:38
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fungisure, i understand the desire13:45
fungii regularly experience the internal struggle between my desire to acknowledge/correct my public errors (no matter how small) and my desire to avoid unnecessarily increasing the noise level on already-noisy mailing lists13:47
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fungiinfra-root: not urgent, but the clock is ticking on next pip. 10.0.0.b1 is on pypi now and 10.0.0 is expected to be released in two weeks (over the april 14/15 weekend) https://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2018-March/032104.html13:52
fungidue to https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/4805 we know it's at least going to start breaking devstack13:55
fungithe pip maintainers seem to actually prefer that we pin pip<10 or just not use `sudo pip install ...` at all, rather than providing any sort of escape hatch13:59
corvusfungi: we could just install 'fip'.  fungi's pip.13:59
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fungifip is unlikely to be well-maintained ;)14:00
corvusit's also unlikely to change :)14:00
fungithis is certainly true14:00
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clarkbfungi: might be worth a wider email to dev list explaining we expect things to break to avoid everyone freaking out over lost dev time14:36
clarkbwe won't know how widespread the effects are until after release though14:37
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fungiyup, can do14:54
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fungihttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/128938.html15:01
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logan-clarkb: gtg now15:10
clarkbfungi: thanks!15:12
clarkblogan-: cool I'll have a look when I get a chance15:12
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clarkblogan-: I'm trying a reboot to start just to see if it will be happier now with working networking16:19
clarkb(since it looks like ti has a volume or two that may be coming over the wire)16:19
clarkbdmsimard: or other infra-root do we know why the existing limestone mirror has two cinder volumes?16:21
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clarkblooks like one is for afs and one for apache? rather than a combined volume16:22
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clarkblooks like inap does similar so I'll look at it16:27
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clarkbI may have to have a sit and think on this but looking at it the volumes get labeled as afs and apache but then both go into the same lvm vg then we make two lvs out of that. I don't think there are any guarantees that the writes to the apache cache will end up on the apache volume and similar for the afs volume. Things will be mixed instaed16:30
clarkbSInce we aren't directly passing things thorugh with that mapping it probably makes more sense to humans to not name them that way. Additionally having more than one volume is extra things that can break, can we just use a single cinder volume instead that is twice as big? We aren't doing raid or similar in lvm so don't lose redundancy that way16:31
clarkbinfra-root ^ its a holiday weekend so something to think about. I too must go do holiday related activities but something to think about for monday should you see this.16:32
pabelangerfungi: I can try and see if our single virtualenv suggestion from corvus works.  devstack does multiple venvs by default ATM16:39
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pabelangerclarkb: yah, I think we could clean it up to a single volume too. Will make it a little easier to bootstrap a node16:42
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dmsimardclarkb: I copy pasta'd from inap (re: two volumes)16:51
dmsimardDoing one volume is certainly fine, it didn't occur to me to ask why inap was done that way16:52
clarkbdmsimard: cool we need a new limestone mirror so wanted to make sure I understood what choices were made. I dont have time to do a more involved rebuild right now16:56
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fungiclarkb: i have a feeling that mirror volume setup was cargo-culted. on earlier mirrors we had directly formatted a cinder volume for afs, and so i added a second cinder volume for apache when we discovered we needed additional space. if people are setting them up now with lvm, i agree that 1. there's no need to name the cinder volumes like that, but more importantly 2. we shouldn'17:24
fungit be creating multiple cinder volumes for that17:25
fungijust attach a 200gb cinder volume as a pv and use lvm to carve it up however17:25
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dmsimardfungi, clarkb: unrelated but do you happen to know how some OpenStack github repos got "tags" ? like for nova it has "compute-starter-kit" and "api-server" https://github.com/openstack/nova/18:37
clarkbdmsimard: likely someone with permissions pushed those tags to gerrut18:43
clarkbdmsimard: you can set up the gerrit acls to allow fopr that18:43
dmsimardThose are in the GitHub UI though18:43
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dmsimardoh, wait18:43
dmsimardnot git tags18:43
clarkboh18:44
clarkbthose are tc managed iirc18:44
dmsimardclarkb: https://i.imgur.com/5p3h6ZJ.png18:44
clarkbnot sure what the process is for that18:44
dmsimardlabels? I guess18:44
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clarkbdmsimard: our gerrit projects.yaml doesn't seem to drive that so guessing its out of the governance repo and either manually applied or scripted there18:57
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fungidmsimard: clarkb: it's in openstack/governance reference/projects.yaml19:10
fungioh! no i see what you're talking about now19:11
fungithose are manually applied via the github ui19:11
fungisdague was granted github admin access because he was going to add topics to the various repos to help make the "github mess" in the openstack org more browseable19:12
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fungii think he added the projects which are part of the compute starter kit to a compute-starter-kit "topic" and any official api services to api-server similarly19:14
fungiultimately, we'll probably solve this by replicating into a variety of different orgs in gh instead19:14
pabelangerYah, I wasn't aware of topics but seems to be part of https://developer.github.com/v3/repos/ which is good for automation19:15
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corvusdmsimard, clarkb, fungi: generally we name our volumes 'hostname/main01', etc, and our volume groups 'main':  https://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/sysadmin.html#cinder-volume-management19:52
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fungifor example, rax-ord started with mirror01.ord.rax.openstack.org/main01 as the only pv in its main vg, and one lvm named afscache occupying the entirety of it19:59
fungiso i attached mirror01.ord.rax.openstack.org/main02, added it as a pv in the main vg and then created an lvm named proxycache occupying the rest19:59
fungii'm guessing some of the later mirror servers copied that rather than using a single cinder volume20:00
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fungilooks like when mirror02.dfw.rax replaced mirror01, it was done sanely with just a single main01 cinder volume carved up into logical volumes for afscache and proxycache20:03
fungi(though the old separate cinder volumes for mirror01 never got deleted when the instance was deleted?)20:03
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fungiclarkb: where are you seeing cinder volumes named/labeled something other than main01/main02 in inap-mtl01?20:05
fungi(though again, when mirror.mtl01.inap replaced mirror.mtl01.internap the old cinder volumes for that never got deleted either)20:06
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clarkbfungi on inap I think it may just be two but limestones are named20:19
clarkbabd limestone needs a rebuild20:20
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fried_bunnydhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/558084 Fix unit tests to work with new oslo.config21:03
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pabelangerclarkb: logan-: we should consider setting max-server: 0 if we can bring limestone online, so we can still manage images. Right now, we're have to have 4 DIBs of each image on nodepool-buliders since we are gettings errors uploading images21:49
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logan-Ah ok. I can enable the project and set instance quota to 0 if that’s easier pabelanger22:23
pabelangerlogan-: if we do it via max-servers in nodepool.yaml, we shouldn't get any errors from limestone. And shouldn't need to change your quotas.  If you wanted to propose a patch, can likely approve22:26
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openstackgerritLogan V proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Drop Limestone max-servers to 0  https://review.openstack.org/55808822:32
logan-pabelanger ^22:32
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pabelangerlogan-: ack22:35
pabelangershould take 29 mins to land22:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config master: Drop Limestone max-servers to 0  https://review.openstack.org/55808822:44
pabelangerlogan-: clarkb: ^okay, max-servers 0 now22:45
logan-thanks, re-enabling the project22:46
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pabelangerlogan-: okay, change has landed23:05
pabelangerfeel free to enable things on your side23:05
logan-thanks!23:05
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