Thursday, 2016-07-21

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clarkbthe two nodepool reverts merged I am going to reenable puppet on that host00:01
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openstackgerritAlan Pevec proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Force distro branch reset in DLRN builds
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fungipuppet has applied the wiki configuration update now (i was tailing syslog waiting for it)00:12
fungilooks like we got another new wiki account 4 minutes ago00:13
clarkbfungi: a legitimete one?00:14
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fungiclarkb: the only way to know is when/if they "contribute" content00:17
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fungiwondering also if it's worth trying
fungimore specifically,
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anteayafungi: looks like a good idea to me00:26
fungioh, there's an extension that uses it directly
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fungii may look deeper into that tomorrow. have a bunch of other stuff i need to get done today still00:29
anteayafair enough00:29
anteaya<-- goes to find dinner00:30
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/pbr: Updated from global requirements
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: [WIP] Move elements into diskimage_builder package
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: [WIP] Move diskimage-image-create to an entry point
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clarkbmonasca-analytics uses a non standard python 27 job :(01:00
* clarkb decides I can't worry about things like that in the intitial wave. If you want to be special then you get to deal with distros yourself01:00
jeblairclarkb: do they not follow the PTI?01:01
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fungii have yet to find a clean way to diff contributors for creating incremental summit invite batches. tools/atc/ does the easy part, but what's tricky is handling account merges and users who transition from extra-atcs to being actual code contributors01:01
clarkbjeblair: they do but their job does some preinstall stuff01:03
clarkbjeblair: so it still runs tox -epy27 but in a non standard job templte01:03
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jeblairTo drive the above tasks, the following commands should be supported in a clean tree:01:03
jeblairtox -epy2701:03
jeblairthat's the PTI01:04
clarkbits a clean tree, looks like they install spark01:04
jeblairyeah, i think that's not really the intent of the pti01:05
jeblairthe *reason* we wrote the pti is for exactly what you're doing now01:05
clarkboh definitely01:05
jeblairalso, it's never been okay for an openstack project to randomly download stuff with curl and install it01:06
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clarkbalso gnocchi seems to do its own things with db backend specific tox targets01:06
clarkbanyways I think for nwo I am just going to ignore all of them and they can fix themselves01:07
jeblairwell, extra jobs are okay...01:07
clarkbjeblair: those aren't extra I don't think01:07
clarkbthey replace py27 py34 and py35 with py27-thing and py27-otherthing01:07
fungiyeah, i wonder why their py27 tox env only works if they untar
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: [WIP] Move diskimage-image-create to an entry point
fungiand set envvars01:08
jeblairremote: Remove monasca-analytics01:08
fungiand their ptl doesn't seem to be persistent in any of the usual cross-project channels01:10
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jeblairremote: Remove gnocchi01:12
clarkbother random thing I am noticing is a lot of python-*clients don't have docs jobs whichs makes me sad as a user of clouds01:12
jeblairclarkb: that is also a PTI violation01:13
jeblairEach python project must be able to do: ... Documentation generation01:13
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clarkbit just seems extra bad when you are a project that is user facing to not have docs01:13
jeblairfeel free to send me a list and i'll propose removal for them01:14
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clarkbI don't have a good list generator right now. I am mostly just updating the jobs that do exist01:15
clarkbwould be pretty easy to write a python script that reads the yaml and finds them though01:15
jeblairwe could probably automate missing jobs01:15
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fungijeblair: your concern with gnocchi is that they have database-specific py27 jobs rather than handling mysql and postgresql in plain py27 i guess?01:16
fungiyeah, from their tox.ini it looks like their unit tests depend on having GNOCCHI_TEST_INDEXER_DRIVERS set to either mysql or postgresql01:17
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fungithey have a plain py27 env too it looks like, we just don't have a job running for it01:17
fungioh, it's more convoluted than that01:18
fungithey also have extras specified to install different python packages if you call one of those
fungithey got way ocd special-casing their testing, looks like01:19
fungithis may be part of the reason they also opted out of global requirements participation01:20
fungidefinitely a special snowflake01:21
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fungias for monasca-analytics, it seems apache spark isn't packaged in debian/ubuntu but they do provide debs for download that could somehow be integrated into jobs i guess. still we don't even have a mechanism right now for standard python unit test jobs to enable additional package repositories from our mirrors even if we did mirror those01:26
clarkbfungi: no but ideally in unittests you would be mocking or faking that interaction01:26
fungithey probably just need to do some additional mocking in their unit tests so they can drop that dependency01:27
fungiyeah, that01:27
clarkbbecause then devs can easily run things locally with some confidence it works without needing to have a system level install01:27
fungiso the gnocchi unit test jobs are (probably?) an easy one to fix by just adding the standard job along with their db-leveraging variants01:28
clarkbor just leverage the dbs in the standard one if it is present like everyone else01:29
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fungiyeah, it appears they want to only run database-dependent unit tests (and install the related python libs for them) when someone explicitly requests a database-specific tox env01:30
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fungiokay, so the three contributors throwing off my total turn out to be three who have gone missing between the last batch and the new one. i suspect that they were contributors to a repo which ceased being part of an official team over the past month01:38
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fungihrm, they were all contributors to repos in fuel01:40
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: [WIP] Move diskimage-image-create to an entry point
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fungiyep, they were all contributors to only the fuel-mirror repo removed from governance when merged on july 401:43
fungia sound reminder that the concern i voiced to the tc when they started talking about how to remove repos or projects from the big tent was a valid one. fuel lost (at least) three atcs by removing that repo01:44
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fungikozhukalov: ^ something for fuel to be aware of01:46
fungiyou had some contributors who only worked on that repo, and their work no longer counts toward things like ptl/tc elections01:47
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Convert python-jobs to run on xenial
clarkbok ^ is very very close I htink01:48
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fungihere's something else worth trying... since much of the spam we're getting is leveraging page titles, we could just reuse wikipedia's title blacklist
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/infra-specs: Update Xenial work items formatting
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Move dsvm jobs from kuryr to kuryr-libnetwork
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Move tripleo-ci-nonha-multinode to check pipeline
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krotscheck_dcmjhesketh: I think the reason that patch chain wasn't +W'd is because I wasn't around today in case it blows up.02:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-httpd: Revert "Fix selinux problems on vhost"
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amrithfungi, clarkb, mordred, ... if you have a second, I posed a question on ( Would appreciate your suggestions/thoughts. The inner VM in that picture is a trove instance. Thx!02:29
amrithall a single machine with devstack02:30
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EmilienMianw: if you have time, can you check today?02:38
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jheskethkrotscheck_dcm: do you want me to +W now?03:01
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anteayajhesketh: sorry you weren't able to post directly to the third-party-announce mailing list, I added your email to the list of people clear to post03:19
jheskethanteaya: all good :-)03:20
jheskethI figured I could probably add myself but thought there was no harm in having it in moderation03:20
jheskethanteaya: thanks :-)03:20
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openstackgerritKien Ha proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add valid_dict parameter to convert xml
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anteayajhesketh: :)04:19
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AJaegerkrotscheck_dcm: just ping any of us and we +W...04:54
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add germqtt project
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add puppet-germqtt project
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add puppet-mosquitto project
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AJaegerproject config cores, could you help to land , please?05:19
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jianghuahi, I met an issue in my CI env. the zuul enter forever loop when handling one patch-set.06:10
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Convert python-jobs to run on xenial
jianghuaFile "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/zuul/connection/", line 433, in getGitUrl06:10
jianghuaAttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'name'06:10
jianghuathe patchset depends on another patchset which belongs to openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing. But this project is unknown to zuul. it seems that's the reason why it enter the forever loop.06:11
jianghuaAny suggestion how to handle this case? Any workaround?06:12
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Do not explicitly set inspector iPXE port
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openstackgerritJuan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: TEST IRONIC SSL - DO NOT MERGE
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lennybHi Infra, my zuul goes into deadlock with the following Exception in the log #link   Zuul version: 2.1.1.dev15006:48
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lifelessmordred: jeblair: do either of you know of any zuul committers/contributors going to PyConAU? I presume jhesketh will be...06:54
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jheskethlifeless: I'll be there06:55
jheskethlifeless: any particular reason?06:56
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openstackgerritVasyl Saienko proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add networking-generic-switch-dsvm-temepst job.
lifelessjhesketh: tim ansell wants to facilitate some discussions with some Google folk06:56
lifelessjhesketh: I think he thinks it could help them with a problem, but I don't [yet] know details06:57
jheskethlifeless: cool, well I can try to help, otherwise maybe email the infra list06:57
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vsaienkoinfra-team, please help to merge 1 line patch, it moves ironic-multitenant network job to check pipeline in -nv mode06:58
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AJaegervsaienko: +2A07:36
openstackgerritSachi King proposed openstack-dev/pbr: WIP: Don't ignore data-files
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openstackgerritEvgeny Sikachev proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable coverage job in sahara-tests
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vsaienkoAJaeger, ianw thank you!07:47
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Move ironic-multitenant-network-nv to check pipeline
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kevinbentoni have a stupid question. when i run flake8 directly on a file in neutron it complains about doc errors (the whole class of D errors). where is the logic that ignores them for the pep8 job?08:52
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kevinbenton'D' isn't in the ignore list in tox.ini08:52
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openstackgerritJonas Sticha proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Correct order of parameters in call to tune2fs
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openstackgerritJonas Sticha proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Correct order of parameters in call to qemu-img convert
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AJaegerkevinbenton: how do you invoke flake8 ? From which directory?09:00
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kevinbentonAJaeger: just from within the neutron directory09:01
AJaegerkevinbenton: The tox.ini file is AFAIK only read in current dir, so "flake8 neutron/" and "cd neutron;flake8" give different results09:01
AJaegerkevinbenton: top-level neutron - or from openstack/neutron/neutron? The later would explain it, compare the two runs yourself09:02
kevinbentonAJaeger: same level as tox.ini09:02
AJaegerThat's different then what I get ;( Might be different pep8 or flake versions09:03
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kevinbentonAJaeger: but what is suppressing the docstring errors in our normal pep8 job?09:03
kevinbentonAJaeger: that's the part i'm missing09:03
kevinbentonAJaeger: we don't seem to have them explicitly disabled in our tox.ini file09:03
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AJaegerkevinbenton: I don't see them - better ask on #openstack-dev for developer help.09:05
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kevinbentonAJaeger: thx. nova seems to be the same way. just wondering if there was something magic about the tox -epep8 invokation that ignores doc errors09:05
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AJaegerkevinbenton: do you have flake8-docstrings isntalled? What'S the output of "pip freeze|grep flake"09:08
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hughsaundershey, is it possible to pass a list to a JJB job template?09:08
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AJaegerso, remove flake8-docstrings and be happy09:08
fricklerkevinbenton: the normal pep8 tox env doesn't install flake8-docstrings09:08
* AJaeger will be back later...09:09
kevinbentonAJaeger, frickler: ah, that's it!09:09
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SrinuCan we run two jobs in CHECK pipeline(ZUUL) in Jenkins setup09:32
Srinuin my jenkins ci. when one finish the job first then it is killing other slave and vice versa09:33
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openstackgerritMartin Mágr proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Add opstools candidate repo
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azvyagintsevpabelanger AJaeger fungi ping ?10:16
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Move elements into diskimage_builder package
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Move diskimage-image-create to an entry point
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openstackgerritTim Irnich proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adding project for Gluon fuel plugin.
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jd__AJaeger: can you push our fix for Gnocchi's gate? :(10:25
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AJaegerjd__: which one?10:36
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AJaegerjd__: ?10:36
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AJaegeryolanda, jhesketh, ianw : Can either of you review , please?10:38
yolandahi AJaeger sure10:38
* jhesketh looks also10:39
AJaegerazvyagintsev: best wait for fungi to show up - another 3 hours I guess...10:39
azvyagintsevAJaeger sure, i will wait. btw, do you have any vision for this ?10:39
AJaegerjhesketh, yolanda: Here's one of mine as well for whenever you have time: . Thanks10:39
AJaegerazvyagintsev: I prefer a tox based solution, especially since you add tox.ini in another change10:40
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tobiashhi, just trying to understand how the ansible launcher in zuul25 is currently working. Am I correct that zuul internally transforms the jjb definitions to ansible playbooks? Is it also already possible to directly use playbooks as it's intended in zuul3?10:41
azvyagintsevAJaeger: i'm not sure that it was correct- since you point me, that its not an good idea to use tox for tests which actually don't need any virtual env, and even python packages...10:41
AJaegerazvyagintsev: I know - still it's really easy to setup and gives you lots of flexibility.10:43
jheskethAJaeger: comment on 34421510:43
AJaegerazvyagintsev: That'S why we need to discuss together a bit more with fungi.10:43
azvyagintsevAJaeger: yup, ok. will wait him. thx10:43
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AJaegerjhesketh: that's the same way clarkb is doing it in - following our Xenial spec.10:44
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AJaegerjhesketh: but we can wait for clarkb to +2 it ...10:45
AJaeger(or -1 ;)10:45
AJaegerjhesketh: see clarkb's earlier comment10:46
AJaegertobiash: check any job to see the ansible playbooks used, for example has a _zuul_ansible dir with all the content.10:47
jd__AJaeger: yes sorry,
AJaegertobiash: So, yes, zuul transforms JJB to playbooks. Direct usage is not possible yet - AFAIK.10:48
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tobiashAJaeger: thanks, so the ansible laucher is part of the slave which instanciated by nodepool and registers all jjbs it has in some config folder?10:52
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tobiashI did'nt find much documentation about the ansible launcher10:52
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AJaegertobiash: we have now zuul-launchers - separate instances. Best ask jeblair or pabelanger about details - source code is part of zuul repo.10:53
tobiashthanks, currently looking into the code, but didn't find an example config file for the zuul-launcher10:53
AJaegertobiash: Something around 7 launchers plus one launcher for the static / persistent nodes.10:53
AJaegertobiash: system-config repo, file modules/openstack_project/manifests/zuul_launcher.pp is part of it.10:54
jheskethAJaeger: replied on the patchset.. I might have missed something though10:54
tobiashAJaeger: thanks, looking10:55
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AJaegerjhesketh: what you suggest is the overall goal - not sure whether to do this at this point in time.10:56
AJaegerjd__, jhesketh : My proposal therefore would be to wait for clarkb to review 344215 - and +2A if he's happy or ask for the change that jhesketh suggests. Would that be ok? Then I suggest that jhesketh comments in the review for the record10:57
jd__AJaeger: ack10:58
jheskethAJaeger: sure, sounds reasonable to me10:58
jheskeththanks :-)10:59
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack-infra/project-config: panko: gate on Python 3.5
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Enable coverage job in sahara-tests
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Switch most manuals jobs to Xenial
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Enable py35 voting on keystone
azvyagintsevis it possible to trigger zuul manually ?11:04
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Srinujhesketh: hi. did you face this issue anytime.
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-jenkins: Make the Gerrit SSH key configurable
jheskethSrinu: I haven't come across an error like that sorry. I'd suggest checking your nodepool logs11:10
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Move tripleo-ci-nonha-multinode to check pipeline
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack-infra/project-config: ceilometermiddleware: gate on Python 3.5
Srinujhesketh: in nodepool logs their is no info11:13
jheskethSrinu: check your nodepool logging settings (you may also have debug.log)11:14
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack-infra/project-config: ceilometerclient: gate on Python 3.5
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add requirements check to project syntribos
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Srinujhesketh: No info11:17
Srinujhesketh: i think it is earsing logs11:18
jheskethSrinu: you'll have to debug your enviornment which I don't think I can help with sorry11:19
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-httpd: Fix selinux problems on vhost
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Restructure Sahara CLI test job
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rcarrillocruz'lo mordred Shrews12:05
rcarrillocruzshade appdev workshop is about to start12:05
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yolandarcarrillocruz, crack it!12:06
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Workaround for building stable branches
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openstackgerritYAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: networking-midonet: Make py35 job non-voting
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ajafohi, I'm searching for someone with gerrit admin permissions to help add first account to the group12:28
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dmelladorcarrillocruz: you better share slides later :D12:34
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rcarrillocruzluckily for the attenders the training and slides are done by dfflanders :D12:35
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mordredrcarrillocruz: heya!12:40
mordredrcarrillocruz: well, I'm up and here, should you need anything12:40
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openstackgerritImre Farkas proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add doc publishing and requirements check to dracclient
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Shrewsrcarrillocruz: that's now? email said 13:00 utc12:44
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Shrewsgoogle tells me that 15m from now12:45
dmelladoShrews: well, UTC+2 there so that should be in 15m12:45
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rcarrillocruzit started 45min ago yeah, not sure about that email you refer12:45
Shrewscame this morning. doesn't look like you're on it12:46
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openstackgerritImre Farkas proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add doc publishing and requirements check to wsmanclient
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ajafo we've group for CI, but nobody from core/release groups has permissions to add first user to this CI group, so how can we add new user?12:53
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Add multi-node job in cistatus.html
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jkilpatryolanda, Oh I didn't realize there was a seperate spot to fill it out13:23
yolandahi jkilpatr13:23
yolandaso yep, file your contact details there, then retry13:24
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Use flat encapsulation type for external network
jkilpatryolanda, getting the same error I got with the CLA "cannot store contact infromation"13:24
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yolandajkilpatr, so your contact details are filled now? what's your username in gerrit?13:26
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jkilpatryolanda, as in when I fill out the fields and hit "save changes13:26
jkilpatrit dies and won't let me update contact info13:26
yolandajkilpatr, so you've hit a bug yes... happens the same to me13:27
yolandagoing to check13:27
jkilpatryolanda, It says something about the data being encrypted once submitted, maybe its failing there?13:27
yolandalooking at logs13:27
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yolandayes, that's the error i see13:28
fungiAJaeger: azvyagintsev: i don't really care, either way is fine with me13:29
yolandajkilpatr, have you been able to add at least a contact email?13:29
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fungitobiash: keep in mind the reason zuul-launcher has no documentation is that we don't intend to support it. we see it as an emergency stop-gap solution to get us off jenkins because we were no longer able to safely run a public-facing instance due to its security issues13:31
yolandajkilpatr, can you see ?13:31
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fungijkilpatr: make sure you followed our account setup instructions to the letter
jkilpatrfungi, yolanda will do13:34
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fungiif you skipped steps or try to do parts of that out of order it won't work13:34
azvyagintsevfungi: so, lets add macros, but installing binary move into project?  or move both into macros ?13:35
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fungiazvyagintsev: if by "installing binary" you mean the distro provided shellcheck package, then just put it in other-requirements.txt and use the install-distro-packages macro in your job13:41
fungii was saying i don't care whether you run it under tox or not13:42
azvyagintsevok, lets this that its done. what with macros?13:42
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fungii can't parse that question13:43
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azvyagintsevsorry, i mean VS abandon patch completely, and move shellcheck run into project13:44
AJaegerazvyagintsev: I advocate for tox since it makes it's easier for you to adjust the code to invoke it.13:45
AJaegerif you shell script needs changes, you don't need reviews from us ;)13:45
waynrelectrofelix: yo, nice work on addressing the jjb 2 review feedback ;) i didn't realize until last night that you had done most of it yourself13:45
krotscheck_dcmAJaeger: Ok, I've got 3 hours to babysit those jobs now.13:45
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krotscheck_dcmAJaeger: Link for reference
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Test api-ref theming with openstackdocstheme
azvyagintsevfungi ^^13:49
AJaegerkrotscheck_dcm: approved13:50
krotscheck_dcmHeeeere we go!13:50
krotscheck_dcmAJaeger: Much obliged :)13:50
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openstackgerritImre Farkas proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add doc publishing and requirements check to dracclient
openstackgerritImre Farkas proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add doc publishing and requirements check to wsmanclient
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krotscheckianw: Do variables nest? If a job has {version} in it, does that parameter become available to the child macro?13:53
EmilienMhi, can I have some help on ?13:53
fungiazvyagintsev: an up side to AJaeger's suggestion is that you can have fewer jobs by running all your static analysis checks (including some that need a python virtualenv and some that don't) from one tox command13:53
fungiazvyagintsev: as opposed to having a separate job that only runs shellcheck13:54
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azvyagintsevfungi: ok, i will use it in tox+shell.thanks for clean describing +\- for solution13:55
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Renamed javascript-jobs to nodejs4-jobs
electrofelixwaynr: no worries, sorry, I forgot to update the comments to let you know that I'd addressed them, wanted to share the load as much as possible (and I'm now very much in favour to just noting what needs to be changed and doing it afterwards ... )13:59
azvyagintsevregarding another one issue from yesterday : i'm trying to test jobs in my ci, before push.. so i spawn nodepool slave+ jenkins ( with infra puppet). slave successfully connected and i can run job. i try for example gate-python-{name}-pep8 job, and catch error with dep's
azvyagintsevfungi ^^ is i skip something in configuration ?13:59
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asselin_azvyagintsev, seems you're missing the dib element in your project-config repo that installs bindep14:00
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azvyagintsevasselin_ i use this cfg :
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Renamed *-npm-* jobs to *-nodejs4-npm-* jobs
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asselin_azvyagintsev, compare what you have with upstream. You should have this running somewhere:
asselin_when the image is created14:02
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fungiazvyagintsev: example,
azvyagintsevfungi asselin_ thanks, looks like it's an root-cause.. thanks!14:04
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fungithe cache-bindep element listed there installs bindep in a virtualenv for jobs to use, and also pre-downloads packages mentioned in any git repo's other-requirements.txt to speed up package installation at job runtime14:05
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Renamed npm-install macro to nodejs-install
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: nodejs-install macro can install different versions of node
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Reorganized javascript.yaml
krotscheckLook at all those merges.14:07
* krotscheck hopes that javascript things didn't break14:07
openstackgerritsulochan-acharya proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable zuul jobs for craton and cratonclient
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ZaraI'll keep an eye on the storyboard webclient things...14:09
Zarathanks for the heads-up14:09
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: puppet: move scenario004 to experimental
AJaegerkrotscheck: wait 1h and run rechecks ;)14:14
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EmilienMAJaeger: hey, do you mind helping me on ?14:14
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krotscheckAJaeger: Oh deary14:15
AJaegerkrotscheck: at most 1h - let me check..14:15
AJaegerkrotscheck: might be active already, zuul was just reconfigured. Try it out ;)14:15
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AJaegerEmilienM: sorry, not right now.14:16
krotscheckAJaeger: Had some jobs in the queue that renamed themselves on the fly. I'm guessing those aren't the ones I'm interested in?14:16
EmilienMAJaeger: ack14:16
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AJaegerkrotscheck: check the renamed ones...14:18
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krotscheckAJaeger: Encouraging, just watched one passing...14:18
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Use flat encapsulation type for external network
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mordredkrotscheck: you never realized how much you wanted telnet did you?14:28
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krotscheckmordred: Yes, but now I want to pipe filter it.14:29
krotscheckmordred: Make all the features happen!14:29
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AJaegerkrotscheck: script it;) you can do it...14:30
krotscheckEhn, effort.14:30
mordredkrotscheck: you can totally pipe filter it :)14:30
jeblairkrotscheck: "nc host port | grep thing"14:31
mordredthat ^^ :)14:31
krotscheckSo, when I click on a running job, it opens up a terminal automatically that doesn't permit me to modify the command.14:32
krotscheckBut that's a minor usability thing.14:32
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mordredyah - you currently need to mouse-over the link to see the telnet link which will show host/port14:32
jeblairi usually copy/paste that link into a terminal then modify it14:33
krotscheckYep. Minor usability thing14:33
krotscheckWhat's the difference between a job group and a template group? I'm trying to figure out where to put variable replacements.14:33
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AJaegera job group in jjb groups different templates.14:34
AJaegerNot sure what you mean with template group.14:34
AJaegernote that zuul/layout and jenkins/jobs/* are completely separate from the syntactic sugar14:35
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krotscheckAJaeger: Gimme 10 minutes, I'll post a patch and let you mark it up.14:35
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openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Added version parameter to nodejs jobs
krotscheckAJaeger: Is that right ^^?14:40
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AJaegerkrotscheck: the jenkins part is fine, the zuul one not - I'm not aware that we allow parameters at all - besides {name}.14:42
krotscheckAJaeger: Ok, so I should just leave that the way it was before?14:42
AJaegerkrotscheck: yes, don't touch it.14:42
openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Added version parameter to nodejs jobs
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AJaegerkrotscheck: revert your complete changes for zuul/layout14:44
openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Added version parameter to nodejs jobs
krotscheckAJaeger: There we go14:44
AJaegerkrotscheck: let's wait for test results ;)14:45
krotscheckAJaeger: Bah. Tests. That's what production is for!14:45
* AJaeger has to run some errands now....14:45
honzaAll tripleo-ui builds are failing because of a stale symlink on jenkins.  How can I go about fixing this?14:46
openstackgerritsulochan-acharya proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable zuul jobs for craton and cratonclient
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openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Created jobs for nodejs version 6
krotscheckhonza: Is this a recent thing? I just renamed a bunch of javascript jobs.14:50
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krotscheckianw: Changes as requested ^^14:50
honzakrotscheck: last 24h-ish?  here is an example, note the phantomjs error at the bottom
honzakrotscheck: this happens regardless of patch14:51
krotscheckhonza: Ah. Phantom. We don't advise using phantom.14:51
krotscheckAlso, I see this line: npm WARN deprecated phantomjs@2.1.7: Package renamed to phantomjs-prebuilt. Please update 'phantomjs' package references to 'phantomjs-prebuilt'14:51
honzakrotscheck: looks like we have both in devDependencies14:52
honzadon't ask me why :)14:52
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krotscheckhonza: We don't advise using phantom for two reasons. Firstly, the binaries are hosted on bitbucket (rather than npm), and the owner regularly hits the download quota, breaking our builds. The second reason is that no human actually uses phantomjs to browse with, so it's not really a valid testing environment.14:53
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ganesanis it mandatory to build diskimage before setting up thirdparty ci systems or I can skip this14:54
honzakrotscheck: good to know, i'll bring it up --- anything i can do to fix the build while we evaluate other options?14:54
jristkrotscheck: that is reasonable, but this is just for unit testing14:54
honzakrotscheck: should using prebuilt only fix it?14:54
asselin_ganesan, it will be done by nodepool. those are manual instructions.14:54
krotscheckhonza: Sadly I don't know. Since we don't advise using it, I've never dug into that particular problem.14:54
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honzakrotscheck: fair enough, thanks, as always14:55
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Use growroot for undercloud image
ganesanI am following the same link and it is redirected there14:56
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ganesanis it ok to skip building the diskimage14:56
krotscheckhonza: As a gut instinct though, the chrome launcher for karma looks for a CHROME_BIN environment varioable to see where to launch chrome from. Maybe the phantom launcher does something similar? In that case, you could manually set it to /home/jenkins/workspace/gate-tripleo-ui-nodejs4-npm-run-test/node_modules/phantomjs/lib/phantom/bin/phantomjs in your karma config14:56
Srinuasselin_: hi. if i update the nodepool version from 0.2.1 to 0.3.0. the image that i created will be their or i have to again build the image14:56
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asselin_ganesan, yes, you can skip. If you need to debug for some reason, then you can follow those instructions.14:57
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asselin_Srinu, upgrading nodepool won't delete any images14:57
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Srinuasselin_: ok. my version of nodepool is 0.2.1 but in github there is no release. but i got that version and i did not mention any config files to download particular file14:59
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asselin_Srinu, github shows the same releases as
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Srinuasselin_: in that there is no 0.2.1 version15:01
vsaienkoinfra-team: please help to merge, we want to switch to tempest based tests in networking-generic-switch.15:01
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asselin_i think you installed based on master at a particular point in time which was never released.15:02
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Convert python-jobs to run on xenial
AJaegerclarkb: I rebased to resolve merge conflict ^15:02
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clarkbAJaeger: ty I think it should pass tests now too15:02
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Srinuasselin_: if i upgrade to new version 0.3.0 will my issue resolve. this is my issue
SpamapSgreghaynes: Ubuntu 16.04.1 is released, so we can switch the default to xenial now.15:03
SpamapSianw: ^15:03
AJaegerclarkb: I fixed it this morning to pass, was a trivial change...15:03
SpamapSfor diskimage-builder I mean15:03
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greghaynesSpamapS: oh, I need to pick your brain about something apt related - someone reported that they ran in to an issue where a package install was running systemctl, wondering if its likely a bad package they were using or we need to disable something new15:04
clarkbAJaeger: oh did I miss one last thing before I had to leave last night? wouodnt auprise me was running tox -ezuul in a loop until I had to go to dinner15:04
greghaynesSpamapS: this is inside the chroot15:04
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AJaegerclarkb: could you review , please? jd__ asked to unblock gnocchi. Plesase see comments by jhesketh.15:04
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asselin_Srinu, I've never seen that issue, so I don't know. I do recommend though that you pin nodepool to a known release, especially since it was advertised to do so on the mailing list.15:05
AJaegerclarkb: looked like wrong merge conflict resolution, your change removed one python-jobs and added pep8 in projects.yaml - but zuul/layout needed more than just pep8 - that was monasca-analytics AFAIK.15:05
Srinuclarkb: hi did you face this issue anytime.
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clarkbAJaeger: hrm did they have python jobs? I may have tried to cleanup the project and gotten it wrong15:08
SpamapSgreghaynes: well systemctl enable should be fine15:08
SpamapSgreghaynes: that just manipulates symlinks15:08
AJaegerclarkb: check-requirements15:08
SpamapSgreghaynes: it's starts/stops that we have to watch out for. :)15:08
SpamapSgreghaynes: but IIRC, systemd has chroot-awareness ... so it can run as not-pid-1 and work inside a chroot just fine.15:08
ganesanwhen I run masterless puppet "sudo puppet apply --verbose /etc/puppet/manifests/site.pp" gives me warning as15:09
ganesanWarning: Found multiple default providers for vcsrepo: cvs, svn, hg, git, bzr; using cvs15:09
AJaegerclarkb: feel free to cleanup differently ;)15:09
AJaegerclarkb: I would be fine merging it now as well - to avoid endless merge conflicts....15:09
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ganesanany issue of using cvs instead of git15:09
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clarkbSrinu: are they the same VM?15:10
Srinuclarkb: no. different slaves15:11
clarkbSrinu: then I dont know sorry15:11
* AJaeger does the daily cycle now, bbl15:11
Srinuclarkb: thank you15:11
clarkbganesan: that is a benign puppet warning shouldnt cause problems15:11
SpamapSgreghaynes: reading up on it a bit though, that might require that the host system be systemd-based15:12
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clarkbAJaeger: ya we can either jump right in and announce it or now would be good time to annoumce set a date then spend the intermediate time cleaning that change up and queuing oyhers behind it for coverage and tempest amd so on15:12
clarkbAJaeger: the issue of course is going to be conflicta in the interim if we dont freeze15:13
SpamapSwhich is similar to upstart in that regard IIRC15:13
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sshnaidmclarkb, hi, could you please review this in your time? IIRC this is should be merged before the new release of gear15:18
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sshnaidmclarkb, I think this patch holds this one from merge:
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Fix Gnocchi py35 gate
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ihrachysis there a limit for the number of targets for grafana dashboards?15:25
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ihrachyswe've added a new target recently, but I can't see it in the dashboard15:25
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pabelangerihrachys: have a review id handy?15:37
ihrachyspabelanger: sure, I814d6de6e1a815200971de062300b9dc2fe7ed0a that is
ihrachysit does not show up in
jianghuawhello. how can I remove a specific job from the zuul queue?15:38
ihrachysit's already 9 entries, that one is 10th15:38
clarkbAJaeger: now I remember what I did with monasca-analytics. They don't use the normal python27 job so I removed python-jobs on the jjb side and replaced it with just the pep8 job15:41
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clarkbAJaeger: because I found it confusing that they had python-jobs in jjb but only used the pep8 job in zuul15:41
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clarkbjianghuaw: you can push a new patchset of the change which will requeue things for the new patchset and unqueue for the old, or you can let the job run. Did you have a specific use case in mind?15:42
clarkbAJaeger: does that make sense to you ? maybe I didn't do that correctly?15:42
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jianghuawclarkb:in my case, there is a change depending on another change which belong to a project. The zuul think this project as unknown and then it runs into dead loop.15:46
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openstackgerritVladyslav Drok proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make ironicclient functional job voting
clarkbjianghuaw: for that case I want to say there is a zuul option or maybe its built in by default to ignore depends on projects that are not configured15:47
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clarkbjianghuaw: you should check the zuul docs for that15:47
dmsimardIn Zuul, if the same job is found in two templates in the same pipeline (i.e, pretend a pep8 job is in template #1 and template #2), that job will only be configured once and it will not fail, right ?15:47
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dmsimardif I apply template #1 and #2 to a project.15:48
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jianghuawNow I've added the project into zuul's layout. But I don't want to restart zuul service, so that the other jobs in queue won't be interrupted.15:48
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pabelangerihrachys: if you look at the panel JSON you can see it is added correctly. Looks like grafana might have a limit of 915:49
fungidmsimard: good question. i know at one point we had the option to be able to specify one job multiple times to get it to run more than once on a change, but i think we lost that at the same time templates were added so that they would be de-duped15:49
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pabelangerihrachys: sorry if dupe, was dropped by proxy15:49
jianghuawAny idea to recover this case?15:49
dmsimardfungi: I guess there's only one way to find out :p15:49
pabelangerclarkb: online now15:49
SwansonAnyone got time for cherry pick questions?15:49
ihrachyspabelanger: oh. thanks for the check. I guess we'll need to clean up that dashboard15:49
fungiSwanson: what's the question?15:49
clarkbdmsimard: fungi I believe it will only be added once if they are at the same level of the tree15:50
therveclarkb, if you find 5mins to (re)look at that'd be great15:50
openstackgerritAdriano Petrich proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Cleanup workspace before javascript gating
pabelangerfungi: So, I cannot seem to come up with a good patch to clean up the heredoc in Do you mind helping by suggesting a fix?15:50
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clarkbjianghuaw: I would look for that option like I said, and zuul should reread its config if you set that then hopefully handle the situation properly15:50
clarkbjianghuaw: would be an option on dependent pipelines I think15:50
fungipabelanger: i can take a stab at it. might be easier for me to just push up a change15:50
openstackgerritVladyslav Drok proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make ironicclient functional job voting
Swansonfungi, I tried to cherry pick this to this wasn't sure what I was doing and abandoned it. Did a new cherry pick and get an error that that abandoned patch was closed.15:51
pabelangerfungi: thanks, that will be helpful for me15:51
* clarkb will work on reviews as soon as he figures out how to configure git prompt properly on tumbleweed15:51
clarkbpabelanger: nice15:51
Swansonfungi, Just reopen and push the new stuff? Or is there something else I should do?15:51
jristcan we get a few eyes on this? it's blocking everything for us due to the rename
fungiSwanson: yeah, gerrit identifies a change by a combination of its change-id, its project and its branch. if you try to push a new change with the same change-id, project and branch as an existing change (even if it's an abandoned one) gerrit thinks you want to upload a new patchset for that existing change15:52
fungiSwanson: so restore the old change you abandoned and then git-review should push a new patchset for it15:52
Swansonfungi, thanks!15:52
jtomasekkrotscheck: ^^^^ a review would be awesome, please:)15:53
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krotscheckjtomasek: ... Urr? What? How did the rename block things?15:54
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fungijrist: i'm confused by that. you're adding a macro intended to remove files from an existing previously-used workspace on reusable nodes, but your job runs on single-use nodes where no previous job has ever run (we delete the node as soon as teh job completes and replace it with a new one)15:54
krotscheckOh, this is the phantom thing15:55
jristfungi: well technically I'm not adding anything :)15:55
jristI'm not versed in this at all15:55
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jristif that's not the correct method of solving our stale symlink issue, I'm happy to propose the correct way - but I don't know the correct way15:56
jristkrotscheck: sort of15:56
jristkrotscheck: it seems like the stale symlink might be related, since that's when this started.15:57
jristfungi: happy to take suggestions.15:57
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Use correct key for
fungijrist: oh, not your change. got it. well, i left a comment. i don't know what the solution is, but the proposed change there would be a complete no-op15:57
krotscheckjrist: Well, teh entire rename tree started with us abandoning the xenial prebuilt images in favor of a different PPA, so it may be related to a new npm verison15:58
jristkrotscheck: ah, quite possible15:58
krotscheckjrist: Out of curiosity, why do y'all have both phantomjs and phantomjs-prebuilt in your dependencies?15:58
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jristkrotscheck: haha, related:
jristkrotscheck: I think prebuilt was added when we hit something similar before but now we just need to remove the non-prebuilt16:00
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krotscheckjrist: That build is passing.16:00
apetrichkrotscheck, good catch16:00
apetrichjrist, yeah makes sense16:00
jristkrotscheck: ha16:00
jristI didn't see that16:00
krotscheckapetrich: Not my credit, it's honza who found that ;)16:00
jristso we'll need to rebase a half dozen patches16:00
* krotscheck just pointed out the deprecation warning in the log.16:00
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jristkrotscheck: is your name pronounced "cross check" ?16:01
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jristand do you like hockey16:01
pabelangerclarkb: okay, moving on to MariaDB. Will push up a patch to use upstream mirror over rax. cc odyssey4me16:02
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krotscheckjrist: Long O. And I ride one of these:
jristI bet that's a nice ride16:02
jianghuawclarkb: thanks. I got it. It's helpful, although it can't stop the existing dead loop. thanks very much.16:03
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odyssey4mepabelanger feel free to take over for that16:04
fungijianghuaw: yeah, chances are you need a zuul restart to clear that out, but once you configure zuul to ignore refernces to projects you aren't testing you shouldn't see it happen again (hopefully)16:04
jristfungi: thanks for your help16:04
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fungiyou're welcome16:04
jianghuawfungi: thanks.16:04
fungiand you're welcome as well!16:04
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krotscheckjrist: She's wonderful. Had some custom powercoating done and built her out myself.16:05
jpmaxmanfungi: looks like we're getting hit with lots of spam - I'm looking at it now16:05
fungijpmaxman: thanks, i hadn't looked yet16:06
jtomasekkrotscheck: impressive16:06
krotscheckjrist: Also, I've got all the bits to convert her to X-Trek, Commuter, or touring.16:06
jristI need a roadie16:06
jristI have a Niner Jet9 right now and a Kona Mountain that I converted to commuter16:07
jristthe mountain is too small and not particularly comfortable16:07
krotscheckjrist: My biggest beef is that the rear wheel mount points forward, and the powder job reduced the friction around the skewers so they occasionally pop out.16:08
fungijpmaxman: oh yeah, lots of new accounts there. i have a script i whipped up to mass delete and block users via the mw api i can use to knock those back out here in a bit (though looks like only 3 of them have actually added anything so far)16:08
jianghuawfungi: is there a way to dump the job queue? so that I can add the back after restarting zuul?16:08
fungier, make that 5 with contributions16:08
fungijianghuaw: there is a script in the zuul git repo for that, just a sec i'll get you a link16:09
jpmaxmanfungi:  ok great - yeah - give me a few want to see what I can deduce from their actions on how they're getting around the captcha16:09
jristkrotscheck: !!!16:09
jristkrotscheck: that seems particularly unsafe16:09
krotscheckjrist: Yeeeeaaaahhhh....16:09
krotscheckjrist: It's only recently become an issue again, so I have to figure something out.16:10
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fungijianghuaw: will export a list of the specified pipeline formatted as `zuul enqueue ...` commands you can redirect to a file and use as a script to reenqueue. we use that all the time for restarts16:10
jianghuawfungi: so cool. thanks very much.16:11
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clarkbjianghuaw: just be sure to remove the enqueue for the one you don't want16:11
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jianghuawgot it:-)16:12
fungijianghuaw: we use it like `python /opt/zuul/tools/ check >`16:12
openstackgerritStephanie Miller proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Add new diskimage-builder team meeting
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fungijianghuaw: then you can stop zuul, edit to remove whatever you don't want reenqueued, and then `bash` to reenqueue the rest after you start zuul again16:13
fungijianghuaw: obviously substitite the url for your zuul server instead of using our status.json or you may be in for an unpleasant surpruse16:14
jianghuawfungi: you are so helpful. thanks.16:14
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fungiany time16:16
fungijpmaxman: after a quick skim, only three of those five new accounts are spammers. the other two are actual people from the community editing pages for the first time16:16
openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Configure its-storyboard plugin
clarkbfungi: when you aren't battling spam, any opinion on trying to merge the switch python-jobs to xenial change nowish or sending an announcement for say monday next week then spending the next day and a half cleaning it up and lining up more changes to switch jobs over?16:16
clarkbfungi: jpmaxman are new account signups behind the captcha as well? or should we expect enw account that aren't able to do much?16:17
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fungiclarkb: account creation is not subject to captcha, just page edits16:17
jpmaxmanclarkb: new account signups are launchpad16:17
jpmaxmanso they have their own protection, but we accept any valid launchpad account16:18
clarkbok so we probably should expect random spam accounts its just a matter of making sure they can't spam once created16:18
clarkbjpmaxman: ya16:18
fungiso we'll likely have spammer accounts added that never make any "contributions"16:18
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fungiclarkb: one thing i considered was doing a cleanup via the api to delete accounts which have never contributed any edits since they're superfluous16:18
anteayafungi: +16:19
mordredfungi: ++16:19
funginot block them, just delete so that those users can recreate them if they're legitimate16:19
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/gear: Handle SIGINT correctly in Client.waitForServer()
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/gear: Allow setting a timeout for Client.waitForServer()
olaphfungi: +++16:20
fungibut there's really no reason to log into the wiki except to make edits (obviously i'd also skip any accounts we have added to groups since they may get used for non-anonymous tasks)16:20
clarkbthat seems reasonable too16:20
clarkb(I was just trying to reason about whether or not new spammer accounts are expected and if they are a problem)16:20
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: OpenStack-CI Apt mirror for MariaDB
anteayafungi: can you tell if these accounts have subscribed to any pages?16:20
fungithat was more of a plan for how to refine our account list on the wiki come time to attempt to map them to a new openid16:20
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anteayayou have to log in to subscribe to a page, there might be folks that track pages but don't edit16:21
fungianteaya: ahh, great point. yes, i could also skip any which have page subscriptions16:21
fungithe api does allow you to query that16:21
anteayaare the spammers subscribing to any pages? is that a behaviour pattern of this group?16:21
fungino idea, but likely not. they seem to be a drive-by lot. they don't seem to actually reuse accounts they've created from even 24 hours in the past16:22
anteayafungi: ah16:22
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anteayaokay then yeah, I would advocate for keeping folks that subscribe too then16:22
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anteayaand thanks16:22
openstackgerritsulochan-acharya proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable zuul jobs for craton and cratonclient
fungii suspect their scripts plan for moderators or automated countermeasures blocking spammer accounts so just don't bother to reuse them for long in the first place16:23
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anteayaor subscribe instead of edit16:23
pabelangerclarkb: I'm in favor of nowish, so we don't have to keep battling merge conflicts16:23
anteayafungi: a reasonable strategy16:23
pabelangerclarkb: I also have bandwidth to support any issues too16:23
clarkbpabelanger: I don't expect too many of those if we soft freeze between now and then fwiw16:23
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inc0_guys, is gerrit fleaky? I started to have Service Unavailable errors16:23
anteayacan you tell how many times a given wiki account logs in?16:24
anteayais knowing that useful?16:24
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clarkbgerrit is not spiking GC according to melody16:24
pabelangerclarkb: Ya. I think we've (you specifically) done a good job at testing everything the best you can16:24
clarkbpabelanger: ya I am pretty confident in the tests working and when they don't work the projects are at fault16:24
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anteayainc0_: women work in this channel too16:25
clarkbpabelanger: eg the sslv3 stuff16:25
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pabelangerclarkb: ++16:25
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inc0_ah, my apologies, gals and guys:)16:25
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fungijpmaxman: i'm considering giving a shot next. it's probable that these spammers hitting us are casting a wide net and so are ending up in the sfs blacklist pretty quickly. that could knock down the volume some16:25
anteayaor people, team group or infra16:25
clarkbpabelanger: other portions of infra-root agree I say lets go for it today and I can send an email to go along with it. Then we can spend the next week or so rolling out the changes to the other jobs16:25
anteayainc0_: I don't self identify as 'gal'16:25
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clarkbpabelanger: I do sort of want fungi to look at the change and what is required to do what we planned. After writing this change I think I am personally leaning towards preferring the old way we did it but only just barely.16:26
anteayafungi: jpmaxman still in favour of the StopForumSpam direction16:26
jpmaxmanI think they are getting in through
clarkbpabelanger: fungi one of the potential gotchas with this setup I am realizing is that we run jobs in check/gate and in post and we can't switch on branch with those16:27
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fungiclarkb: what's the spot check for xenial on master looking like? any guess as to how disruptive we should expect it to be if we pull the trigger now?16:27
clarkbpabelanger: fungi so that is one limitation I hand't planned for compared to the old system16:27
anteayajpmaxman: how, what are they doing?16:27
openstackgerritDaniel Gonzalez Nothnagel proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add api-ref jobs for Manila
fungijpmaxman: like is the captcha only being presented if they're using the default language selection or something?16:28
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azvyagintsevfungi so i rebuild new image,with correct elements list- it's solve my issue. by now i have another one, when i try run jobs with devstack: 16:26:38 + timeout -s 9 165m bash -c 'source /home/jenkins/workspace/gate-tempest-dsvm-full-devstack-plugin-ceph/devstack-gate/ && gate_hook'16:28
azvyagintsev16:26:38 bash: /opt/stack/new/devstack-gate/ No such file or directory16:28
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openstackgerritsulochan-acharya proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable zuul jobs for craton and cratonclient
jpmaxmanI'm still digging, but looking at this it looks like they are injecting through that module:16:29
jpmaxman=strapping&version=20160721T094403Z&* HTTP/1.116:29
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clarkbfungi: its basically but those all seem to pass when I run them on the actual test isntances nodepool boots. Also note that my testing only considered projects that use the python-jobs zuul template. So any projects with one off random things not completely following the PTI are potentially going to fail16:29
clarkbfungi: but considering how few real issues we have had on the python-jobs set I don't expect many issues beyond "don't use sslv3 and don't import private portions of stdlin"16:29
inc0_anteaya, I'm afraid my English is way below level required to feel all the nuances of this muddy field that generalization and identity is, I beg your pardon, meant no offense, exclusion or favor of any specific group16:30
fungiclarkb: would we be switching devstack-gate jobs too or is that planned for a different cut-over?16:30
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anteayainc0_: thanks I appreciate it16:30
clarkbfungi: this change is only the stuff in python-jobs. It turns out that over time our jobs have grown like the blackberry and ivy in my backyard so we can't easily one shot this16:30
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phschwartzzuul promote --pipeline Blah --change 11111,1 should move that change to the top of the zuul queue correct? Or only up one spot?16:31
anteayainc0_: your level of English appears fairly advanced in my opinion16:31
clarkbfungi: so next would be dealing with coverage jobs and other one off python jobs and also dealing with the dsvm jobs16:31
inc0_in fact, I like to think of myself as as egalitarian, even tho my wording might not reflect it at all times16:31
clarkbphschwartz: to the top16:31
phschwartzclarkb: perfect. ty :)16:31
inc0_anteaya, well, but is nice excuse I can make right?16:31
clarkbfungi: this is another reason why I am slightly preferring the old system. Its write 90 lines of code and set some defaults and done16:32
anteayainc0_: fair enough, I've never met an egalitarian before, at least one that told me they were16:32
clarkbfungi: this explicit method is going to be thousands of lines of chrun in yaml files over the next couple months likely16:32
anteayainc0_: it is a popular one, indeed16:32
clarkbfungi: but the trade off there is it should be easier to understand the intentions of those changes16:32
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anteayajpmaxman: you posted something in channel that looked like a link, but closer inspection appears to me that it is not16:33
anteayajpmaxman: I'm trying to follow along, what were you trying to convey by posting what you posted?16:34
fungianteaya: it's from the apache log on the wiki server16:34
anteayafungi: ah thank you16:34
fungian access log entry for one of the calls made by one of the spam accounts, a possible point of entry to page editing which might bypass the captcha. currently just a theory though16:35
anteayathanks for the explaination16:35
clarkbthe big difference is before we treated everything the same in one go and if you wanted to be special you had to do so explicitly (which led to some issues). Now everything is special so its more on us to sort through it upfront (and potential issues with post vs check/gate when running jobs that go in both16:35
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openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Nothing to see here
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azvyagintsevfungi ^^16:37
* clarkb will let the crowd review and think it over while breakfast is found16:37
fungiclarkb: so... given it's the latter part of the week now if the sorts of issues this switch might expose will mostly need to be spotted and dealt with by the devs on individual projects, making the switch at the start of the week might make more sense so that they don't end up with a mountain of broken harshing their weekends16:37
clarkbya that works for me too16:37
fungiazvyagintsev: yeah, i have no idea what would cause /opt/stack/new/devstack-gate/ to not exist on your systems. that should be created by devstack-gate at job runtime16:38
clarkbI do also think that we need to weild a bigger "you really need to conform" hammer especailly for big tent projects16:38
clarkbbecause most of the mess here imo is we have gotten lax and a large chunk of projects are not very standard. Like the monasca-analytics and searchlight stuff. And projects not having docs so can't use the python-jobs template16:39
fungiclarkb: well, posting removal proposals to governance for any not following the consistent testing interface specified by the tc seems to have gotten rapid attention16:39
jpmaxmansorry anteaya give me a bit still looking16:39
clarkbfungi: oh cool. So maybe we work that separtely and generate lists of thsoe based on yaml parsing of zuul's layout16:40
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fungiclarkb: a slightly less confrontational method might just be to start an ml thread with a list of all the offending projects, but yes16:40
fungione of those sorts of methods16:40
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azvyagintsevfungi i guess you about builder "name: devstack-checkout " ?16:41
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clarkbbut ya there is lots of pep8 only, or run pep8, docs, python27 in check but only pep8 in gate and so on. If we reduce that down to you run python-jobs these sorts of updates are much much simpler16:41
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anteayaclarkb: ++ on the hammer, what ever it is called16:41
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anteayajpmaxman: yup, fair enough, thanks16:42
clarkbI expect a similar situation with the dsvm jobs but its trickier there since integration tests are harder to simplify like that. But I think we have much fewer dsvm type tests to worry about16:42
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clarkba few hundred compared to thousands of the other ones16:42
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fungiazvyagintsev: no, devstack-checkout just checks out devstack-gate in the job workspace. _running_ it should cause it to re-checkout itself in /opt/stack/new after it sets up repos there16:43
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azvyagintsevfungi: yup, i can see gate_hook call, but still can't find that someone initiate creating someting into /opt/stack/new... if you have time- part of log
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zarojeblair: change for adding rel=nofollow to gerrit links
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azvyagintsevfungi i didn't pass any ZUUL_* variables...could it be root-cause ?16:49
jeblairzaro: woot!  merged upstream!16:50
fungiazvyagintsev: zuul should pass those for you16:50
jeblairanteaya: yep, i saw, thanks16:50
anteayaah sorry I had mis-read your ! for a ?16:51
jeblairanteaya: that's okay?16:51
fungiazvyagintsev: calls the setup_workspace function (from which in turn calls setup_project which is what does the git clone of projects16:52
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azvyagintsevfungi hmm.... regarding zuul - i ran job's directly from jenkins in UI - with hope, that everything will be fetched from master16:55
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azvyagintsevfungi: how-to push trigger from zuul ? i saw, in gerrit plugin such function - but can't goolge something same for zuul16:56
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azvyagintsevor i should update layout and push test commit into upstream repo ?16:57
openstackgerritMikhail S Medvedev proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Fix shebang for modules.env sort check script
mmedvedeshould be easy merge ^^16:57
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fungiazvyagintsev: i don't understand what you're asking. perhaps you can restate your question16:58
azvyagintsevfungi: yup, sorry for my English16:58
fungiazvyagintsev: no need to apologize16:58
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EmilienMpabelanger: when do we plan to have mirror for gems?16:58
EmilienMshould I abandon ?16:59
azvyagintsevYou say, that "zuul should pass those for you" . But i'm running job directly from jenkins UI- so i guess i'm doing it in wrong way16:59
anteayaazvyagintsev: even English speakers sometimes need to try several times to get their idea or question across16:59
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fungiazvyagintsev: i don't know much about using the gerrit trigger plug-in in jenkins, so you may find better answers from other third-party ci operators running a configuration more similar to what you have16:59
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azvyagintsevfungi: so, i'm asking- how-to trigger build correctly ? what should i do, for staring build ? just push some test-code into gerrit ? or i could call something like 'zuul run_job_name for_this_patchset' ?'17:01
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fungiazvyagintsev: i also haven't tried running devstack-gate directly from jenkins as far as i can remember (and am unlikely to in the future since we no longer use jenkins), but i think you'd need to set some variables similar to those mentioned in the latter half of the "simulating devstack gate tests" section in the readme17:01
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azvyagintsevfungi aaaah, yeaah. looks like truth. i miss it...thanks!17:02
fungiazvyagintsev: or you could try using the ci-sandbox repo in our gerrit and configure your zuul to trigger jobs on patchsets for that, then upload a change there17:03
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openstackgerritHonza Pokorny proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Upload tarballs for tripleo-ui
azvyagintsevfungi: ci-sandbox thats what i'm actually using :)17:04
anteayaazvyagintsev: I'm so happy to hear that, thank you17:04
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fungiazvyagintsev: sure, then just push a change to gerrit for that repo17:04
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mmedvedeazvyagintsev: it is possible to run a build without jenkins/zuul, by setting up correct env variables and running scripts directly on a VM. Useful for debugging. Feel free to ping me if you decide to go that route17:05
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azvyagintsevfungi: mmedvede: thx, i guess i will try to find correct ZUUL_var's for start. will back to you if stuck again. thanks!17:06
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Remove pipeline.getJobs
EmilienMcan someone help me to figure if we can go ahead with please?17:11
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anteayaEmilienM: it looks like you need to talk to ianw and find out if he is willing to remove his -117:15
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anteayaEmilienM: it looks to me like AJaeger is in agreement with your patch17:15
EmilienMbeside the -1, I would like some other thoughts17:15
anteayabased on my reading of the comments17:15
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anteayaEmilienM: I have not additional thoughts myself17:19
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Use flat encapsulation type for external network
EmilienManteaya: ianw is currently sleeping I guess, I thought I could have some reviews in the meantime17:22
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pabelangerEmilienM: Yup, I am going to start work on that next17:25
EmilienMthank you17:25
EmilienMpabelanger: oh, gems?17:26
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pabelangerEmilienM: yup. just finishing up debian mirror17:26
pabelangerMariaDB is ready for review17:26
pabelangernow gems17:27
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openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Skip pingtest cleanup
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anteayaEmilienM: understood, given what you already have my suggestion would be continue with ianw17:35
anteayaand yes, I too think he is sleeping17:35
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EmilienMcool :)17:36
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anteayaEmilienM: thanks :)17:38
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AJaegerclarkb: reading scrollback - the monasca thing: You need to add the requirements job as well, that one was missing. Do you want to udpate your change again?17:48
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Move methods from Pipeline to QueueItem
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jeblairnotmorgan, jhesketh: ^ i'm writing a series of data model cleanup patches17:50
osnexusAnyone with some networking chops on? Trying to figure out why my nodepool CI cannot communicate with the nova VMs on my devstack cloud17:50
clarkbAJaeger: ya I will update it, sounds like fungi would like us to wait for monday. I am also drafting the announcement email which we can send out today17:51
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notmorganjeblair: will take a look shortly17:52
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notmorganjeblair: slowly understanding the direction of zuulv3 things.17:53
AJaegerclarkb: you can also switch on branch for post!17:53
jeblairnotmorgan: me too :)17:53
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clarkbAJaeger: I can?17:53
clarkbAJaeger: I thought it was ref based?17:53
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clarkbwhich is different rule and parameter17:53
notmorganjeblair: yeah, but you know a lot more than i do about it :P17:53
pabelangerjeblair: are we ready to move forward adding zookeeper to nodepool.o.o?  324037 is ready if so17:54
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AJaegerclarkb, fungi: if I should review stricter, please tell me! I can reject some more (still reading backscroll)17:55
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clarkbAJaeger: I think we should go ahead and use the time between nwo and monday to clean it up17:56
clarkbAJaeger: so please do leave comments on things you notice17:56
clarkbalso email draft at
clarkbpabelanger: AJaeger fungi ^17:56
fungiclarkb: in post, REF_NAME is the branch where the change merged, i think17:56
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fungier, ZUUL_REFNAME17:56
openstackgerritMiles Gould proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Allow installing proliant tools from an OS package
clarkbfungi: ya so I can't filter that in the zuul jobs list easily with a branch rule too I don't think17:56
clarkbfungi: but maybe I can and I am misunderstanding how zuul applies those rules17:57
AJaegerclarkb: let me find an example for you...17:57
clarkbtake for example coverage-nova-ubuntu-trusty and coverage-nova-ubuntu-xenial. If that runs in check and post how do I pick the correct job for both check and post?17:57
openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Add new diskimage-builder team meeting
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jeblairclarkb: job.branches matches change.branch or change.ref17:58
jeblairclarkb: so you can switch post jobs in the layout17:58
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clarkbjeblair: ah so I have to make the rule handl an optional refs/ prefix?17:59
clarkbin any case sounds like this is solvable and I was wrong about trying to jam that in18:00
AJaegernot at all, just use branch. zuul will do the right thing ;)18:00
clarkbfor some reason I thought it wouldn't work18:00
jpmaxmanfungi: ok I've been monitoring the post data watching numerous spams come in18:00
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fungijpmaxman: does it seem to be a lot of blind submission where they try a variety of tactics only some of which actually work, or do they seem to tailor/tune the calls to just what is working on our wiki?18:01
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jpmaxmanas far as I can tell most attempts seem to come through18:02
jeblairclarkb: i think as a special case, gerrit strips 'refs/heads' from branch names, so you don't actually need to account for the refs prefix18:02
AJaegerclarkb: do you want to WIP ? Since you want to wait with merging...18:02
jpmaxmanthey seems to be an initial creation18:02
jpmaxmanand then a series of edits18:02
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clarkbjpmaxman: gotcha18:02
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clarkbAJaeger: yup let me do that18:02
jpmaxmanI did find what appears to be recaptcha data passed in the post18:02
fungijpmaxman: i'd heard that there are mechanical turk type outfits solving captchas on request, used by spammers. no idea if that still happens or if there are faster ways to get around captchas these days18:03
jpmaxmanmay be18:03
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Proposing OpenStack SWG Meeting
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jpmaxmananyway the ConfirmEdit plugin we are using18:03
jpmaxmanis quite old18:03
jpmaxmanand uses the v1 ReCaptcha18:03
jpmaxmanno longer supported by Google18:03
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jpmaxmanso it makes that theory more likely18:03
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jpmaxmanI'd like to try dropping the latest ConfirmEdit extension18:04
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clarkbAJaeger: also please leave lots of comments and I will work on addressing them today18:04
jpmaxmanbut didn't want to do it without everyones blessing :)18:04
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fungijpmaxman: i'm in favor. there's also a javascript-oriented "recaptcha nocaptcha" option mentioned on the confirmedit plugin page that's supposed to be better at blocking spammers too, i was wondering about18:05
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clarkbAJaeger: it looks like monasca-analytics has check-requirements on it?18:05
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fungijpmaxman: and i was also thinking about this plugin as an additional mitigation
anteayajpmaxman: I'm also in favour of trying something18:06
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fungijpmaxman: basically relies on a collaborative blacklist service people can report wiki/form spam ip addresses into and mediawiki can block editing based on18:06
clarkbAJaeger: I think I am still missing somethign re monasca-analytics18:06
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Added Gem Mirror to Infra
anteayasince my understanding of the situation is that thus far we have not provided any obstacles to their spam creation18:07
clarkbpabelanger: for ^ we should double check our disk availability. Last I checked gem mirror is huge18:07
jpmaxmanyes that's what I was looking at - I was assuming that was the recaptcha 2.018:07
pabelangerclarkb: Agreed18:08
AJaegerclarkb: they use pep8+check-requirements in zuul, you need to add to jenkins both requirements and pep8. You added in your last change only pep8.18:08
jpmaxmanThe new generation of ReCaptcha, called NoCaptcha, was introduced by Google back in December 201418:08
AJaegerclarkb: python-jobs includes requirements18:08
pabelangerclarkb: I'm looking to see if we can use gem --config-file mirror, to remove it from root18:08
clarkbAJaeger: oh I see, is that why it is back to using python-jobs in latest patchset? maybe we'll just leave it that way for now and do the cleanup later18:09
pabelangerclarkb: if not, I'll revert back to the rubygems user and figured out AFS keytab permissions18:09
AJaegerclarkb: yes, that's why it took it back - tox -e zuul complained about undefined requirements job.18:09
AJaegerclarkb: feel free to respin...18:09
clarkbAJaeger: gotcha, ok lets just leave that as is and we can clean it up in a followup18:09
jpmaxmanI think  they just changed the name18:10
fungijpmaxman: cool! i'm on the same page then, for sure18:10
fungiit sounded smarter anyway18:10
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AJaegerclarkb: regarding PTI: what should I enforce more?18:11
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jpmaxmananyway the ConfirmEdit that is installed18:11
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jpmaxmandoesn't have the ReCaptchaNoCaptcha.php18:11
clarkbAJaeger: for big tent projects I would really like to see more things use python-jobs/python-db-jobs instead of just being randon combos of pep8/docs/python2718:11
jpmaxmanI downloaded the latest18:11
jpmaxmanand can drop it in18:12
anteayaclarkb: ack18:12
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jpmaxmanbut I realize we need a settings change18:12
fungijpmaxman: the confirmedit page mentions that confirmedit extension is already bundled with the version of mediawiki we're running, and the "latest version" is listed as 1.3 which is what reports we have, so maybe we need a separate module for that?18:12
clarkbAJaeger: then its a simple couple line change to do this update but reality is lots of projects need manual updates beacuse they don't use the standard template18:12
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jpmaxmanIt's just not in the version bundled with our version of MediaWiki18:13
jpmaxmanI think we can upgrade ConfirmEdit without upgrading the entire wiki18:13
fungijpmaxman: interesting18:13
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clarkbAJaeger: I also think that all the python-*clients should haev docs jobs regardless of big tent because user facing == please have docs but I guess we can only put pressure on big tent for that18:13
jpmaxmanthat's the latest version that has the ReCaptchaNoCaptcha.php18:13
fungijpmaxman: is our version page lying about which version of confirmedit we've installed, or is the mediawiki modules index wrong about what teh latest version of that plugin is?18:13
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fungijpmaxman: aha, so they've started versioning it by mediawiki release instead of separately, now that it's bundled. got it18:14
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fungiso that must mean the version of confirmedit that gets bundled with mw 1.2718:15
clarkbAJaeger: basically the more we get the config to conform the easier it is to make large scale changes like this. And its also better for the projects to have eg docs18:15
fungiand we're on mw 1.2518:15
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* AJaeger had hoped they start with some and then evolve and add more...18:17
anteayaah hope18:17
anteayaI remember that feeling18:17
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Added Gem Mirror to Infra
EmilienManteaya: can you review please?18:18
jpmaxmanfungi still seems weird18:18
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jpmaxmanour version is dated 1.3 (6034c03) 18:43, 16 October 201418:18
anteayaEmilienM: I can look, keeping in mind I'm at the nova mid-cycle so have split attention18:19
jpmaxmanand the latest 1.3 (2014-12-05)18:19
jpmaxmanso maybe in those two months they added the no captcha18:19
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AJaegerclarkb: don't have enough time to fully think this through right now - if you have ideas, let's discuss later so that we can review better. I'm happy to be more strict for new big tent projects etc, just would like that we caome to a coming understanding here.18:19
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EmilienManteaya: ok thx, it's a quick one18:19
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clarkbAJaeger: no problem, we can definitely brainstorm offline. Might be worth a ml thread18:20
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jpmaxmanI can just say (unless I'm blurry eyed) I don't see this file in our version :) ReCaptchaNoCaptcha.php18:20
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jpmaxmanNeed to step out for about 30 min.  Let me know if you'd like me to replace it directly or if there is another process you'd like to follow18:21
fungijpmaxman: yeah, i think what happens there is the "version" of the plugin is frozen at 1.3 now that it's bundled, and instead you get the plugin as shipped in mediawiki version <whatever>18:21
anteayaEmilienM: indeed, thank you18:21
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fungijpmaxman: i'm fine with a straight-up replacement of what's there with the new one as long as we can swap it back easily if it breaks18:22
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AJaegerclarkb: or an IRC meeting topic - or both ;)18:22
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Temporarily disable wiki configuration management
fungijpmaxman: ^ to make trying the related config edits easier18:23
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fungii've also edited our emergency disable file for it, so it's technically already disabled while we wait for that change to land18:24
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Add multi-node job in cistatus.html
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fungijpmaxman: it's possible hashar or one of the other mwf staff in here know more about what the version numbering on bundled extensions actually means18:25
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AJaegerclarkb, anteaya : Regarding hope, see
EmilienManteaya: thanks a lot!18:27
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anteayaEmilienM: welcome18:28
anteayaAJaeger: looking18:28
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anteayaAJaeger: I think I am missing the point you are trying to convey, sorry for being slow18:29
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AJaegeranteaya: the point is: That there at least some project where my hope is not hopeless ;) They start with fewer jobs but add over time like the referenced ones...18:29
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clarkbAJaeger: yup thats good to see, I do have a comment for them though18:30
anteayayay for some projects!18:30
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AJaegerclarkb: I know it's broken ;/18:30
clarkbAJaeger: ya I saw your comment I posted an additional item18:31
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AJaegerah - there's a similar change as well
AJaegeranteaya: here's a missing voting gate job - fixed it myself. Do you want to review?
AJaegerclarkb: thanks18:32
clarkbI think generally most projects would not object and probably even do intend on making these changes18:32
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clarkbit just comes down to time and forgetting and living with what they have18:32
clarkbI found some todos for tripleo things that said # TODO add docs from years ago18:32
anteayaAJaeger: done, thanks for fixing that18:33
AJaegerclarkb: good observation, I missed that in the first round - and you're perfectly right.18:33
anteayaI think it is good to talk about it18:33
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: puppet: move scenario004 to experimental
anteayaI think folks feel that standardization limits them18:34
clarkbanteaya: they can always add more18:34
anteayabut standardization also has benefits18:34
anteayaclarkb: indeed18:34
clarkbanteaya: but at a minimum they should have the standard bits and most don't have that much so I doubt limitations are an issue18:34
anteayaclarkb: I'm totally in agreement with you18:34
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clarkbalso its trivial to make pep8, python27 and python build_sphinx succeed18:34
anteayabut trying my best to present my understanding of the opposite perspective18:35
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anteayawhich I happen to disagree with, but trying to be authentic18:35
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clarkbthats like saying the 60 mph speed limit limits you then getting on a pedal bike18:36
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anteayaclarkb: while you are here do you feel like giving the 'don't spam gerrit' patch a push?
mwhahahapabelanger: are you around? question about uca mirrors and their sync frequency from upstream18:37
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AJaegerfungi, is the governance change for three new infra projects. Can you approve those three infra projects, please? That's for firehose spec.18:39
clarkbmwhahaha: usually best to just ask your question then anyone else can answer too :)18:39
mwhahahawell then, what is the sync frequency for the ubuntu mirrors? cause we're seeing out of sync stuff for UCA18:39
clarkbmwhahaha: its run reprepro on a cron and is then published via AFS so it will be roughly in the cron period. Let me get a link for that18:40
pabelangermwhahaha: it should sync ever 2 hours18:40
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mwhahahak i guess we just need to wait 2 hours18:40
jeblairpabelanger: 324037+318:41
clarkb yup every 2 hours18:41
mwhahahathey just published newton b2 so we've got missing 10.0.0 packages but some are in place18:41
pabelangerjeblair: also, I think we are ready to land 330829 now.  Changing zuul-console to use tcp/1988518:41
jeblairclarkb: what's the state of nodepoold?  still running pinned version?18:41
clarkbjeblair: yes its still running pinned version but I reenabled puppet for that host yseterday so a restart should get it back to tip of master18:41
jeblairpabelanger: yeah, i agree, will +318:41
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clarkbmwhahaha: are things failing? reprepro should be building consistent indexes and not publishing the mirror to afs if it can't18:42
pabelangerjeblair: perfect18:42
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jeblairpabelanger: oh it has a pep818:42
jeblairwill fix18:42
jpmaxmanfungi:  Well considering the difference in date is roughly two months18:42
jpmaxmanI don't think there is much risk18:42
pabelangerjeblair: ah, just seen that too18:42
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Refactor mirror configuration script for scaling
fungipabelanger: ^ as requested18:42
jpmaxmanI'd propose dropping in the new version and making sure nothing obvious break then doing a patch to the settings file to switch to the NoCaptcha18:43
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Ansible launcher: Use port 19885 for console streaming
jpmaxmanthe public / private keys should be the same18:43
fungijpmaxman: that sounds great to me18:43
mwhahahasee vs
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jeblairclarkb: cool, so maybe lets restart it this afternoon?18:43
clarkbmwhahaha: neat, I think that means our reprepro stuff doesn't work as we expect18:43
anteayajpmaxman: fungi sounds good to me too18:43
clarkbmwhahaha: it was specifically designed to avoid that aiui18:43
clarkbjeblair: sure18:43
jpmaxmanok cool - I'll proceed :)18:43
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clarkbmwhahaha: its possible its only checking that all the files in the index are present and not traversing the dep tree. If thats the case then UCA might avoid non atomic updates like that18:44
pabelangerclarkb: ya, maybe18:44
pabelangerfungi: looking18:44
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pabelangerjeblair: Ah, okay. I see now18:45
pabelangerjeblair: sorry, that was for fungi18:45
openstackgerritDavid Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Add initial ZooKeeper API
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fungipabelanger: i probably did a terrible job of describing what i was suggesting earlier. sometimes code speaks louder than words18:46
fungipabelanger: also as it was my suggestion, it's entirely reasonable to ask me to code it ;)18:46
Shrewsnotmorgan: jeblair: addressed your comments in 340658. thanks!18:47
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jeblairShrews: cool, thanks!  i'll re-review after lunch18:49
notmorganShrews: ^ basically the same exact thing as what jeblair said18:49
Shrewsjeblair: also, now with moar camelcase18:49
notmorganShrews: eeuuuwww.18:49
fungipabelanger: i tried to keep everything in basically the same order as much as possible, to make reviewing this patch easier. there is probably still some additional reorganization that can go on in a subsequent patch to make it cleaner still. my main goal with this was just replacing the heredocs with shell variables18:49
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add ironic-coverage to gate queue as well
jeblairnotmorgan: for harmony with existing code.  you can blame me18:50
notmorganjeblair: and i will. doesn't change my statement ;)18:50
pabelangerfungi: ya, it looks good. Just 1 minor nit18:50
notmorganjeblair: as someone who has tried VERY hard to forget PERL.... camelCase makes my skin crawl still.18:50
fungipabelanger: i hope there's more than just a nit. refactors like these are easy ways to introduce new bugs so i'm sure i did my fair share with it :/18:50
notmorganjeblair: not that it's inherently bad.18:50
pabelangerclarkb: mwhahaha: I can kick the sync off manually to fix the issue18:51
mwhahahapabelanger: please do18:51
openstackgerritMichelle Mandel proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Enable n-novnc service
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jpmaxmanand nevermind18:51
jpmaxmanThis version of the ConfirmEdit extension requires MediaWiki 1.25+18:51
fungipabelanger: also, good eye! i meant to use mv everywhere18:51
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fungijpmaxman: we're on mediawiki 1.2518:51
anteayajpmaxman: what version is our mediawiki? sorry for not keeping up18:51
jeblairnotmorgan: yah -- without getting into the inherent values, which i can bore you with at a bar (this list is getting long!) i do think at least in a single program we ought be consistent18:51
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notmorganjeblair: yep. do not disagree18:52
notmorganjeblair:  :)18:52
fungijpmaxman: anteaya:
fungi(at least when the wiki's not broken)18:52
notmorganerm... s/do not disagree/agreed18:52
anteayafungi: thank you18:52
jeblairnotmorgan: s'ok. i didn't not understand that.18:52
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notmorgandouble negatives are hard to read mmmmkay18:52
anteayawhat version are we on when the wiki is broken?18:52
notmorganjeblair: well i wont not do it again18:53
* anteaya shows herself to the door18:53
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pabelangermwhahaha: try now18:53
fungianteaya: heh, nice18:53
jpmaxmanfungi: should be back18:53
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pabelangerclarkb: mwhahaha: actually, looks like no new packages were sync'd.  But a fair packages were removed from the repo18:54
fungijpmaxman: thanks. i have a feeling the "Mediawiki 1.25wmf4 (f455f80)" reported by our version page is insufficient for that build of the plugin18:54
pabelangerclarkb: mwhahaha: So, I think our mirror is sync'd correctly18:54
jpmaxmanyup we're a couple of months behind18:54
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mwhahahak i'll let you know but Ubuntu released their b2 and that's missing from the mirrors18:54
jpmaxmannot sure if it is worth it to upgrade the wiki18:54
hasharjpmaxman: if you have MediaWiki related question I am around :)18:54
mwhahahaso there should have been new packages18:54
jpmaxmanhashar: thanks - we wanted to turn on the recaptcha 2  (nocaptcha)18:55
pabelangermwhahaha: do they exist on'18:55
pabelangerwe sync from that18:55
mwhahahapabelanger: yes see 10.0.018:55
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jpmaxmanbut we are on a oct 2014 release and need to be on a dec 2014 release it seems18:55
fungihashar: yeah, we were wanting to get a newer confirmedit plugin working on our Mediawiki 1.25wmf4 deployment18:55
mwhahahapython-keystone_10.0.0~b2-0ubuntu1~cloud0_all.deb etc18:55
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hasharfungi: eek that is the continuous deployment branch for Wikimedia consumption. It is not maintained for sure18:56
fungijpmaxman: hashar: we could probably roll mw forward far enough for that without needing a newer php version, is my guess18:56
anteayahashar: wooooo18:56
fungihashar: yep, i have a separate project for moving to a newer distro so we have new enough php to run a maintained version of mw18:56
hasharwe cut a branch once per week (and maybe that was once every two week back in that time)18:56
hasharso that is fairly outdated  and definitely unmaintained18:57
AJaegerclarkb, do you know why requirements is not using python-jobs in zuul/layout? I'm currently checking a bit...18:58
pabelangermwhahaha: xenial-updates/newton|main|amd64: keystone 2:10.0.0~b2-0ubuntu1~cloud018:58
pabelangermwhahaha: that's our version18:58
fungihashar: basically we're running what Ryan_Lane set up before he had to move on, and it has bitrotted to the point where we can't upgrade without deploying to a newer linux distro, so trying to limp this along and keep spammers under control while i work on the redeploy (which will be tricky since he never got any of it into configuration management)18:58
clarkbAJaeger: I do not know, but if I was guessing we added it in later and didn't think to add it? also possible its that way because many projects do want a base set of python test jobs but don't subscribe to requirements18:58
mwhahahapabelanger: then it's missing from the mirrors,
pabelangermwhahaha: now, that is possible18:59
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AJaegerclarkb: the only job from python-jobs not used by requirements is the branch-tarball.18:59
AJaegerSo, should we just add it?18:59
clarkbAJaeger: oh you mean the requirements repo itself. Ya I thinkwe could just add it in there and publish a tarball of it18:59
pabelangermwhahaha: wait19:00
AJaegerAnd do you wnat a cleanup that will create merge conflicts with your big change now - or afterwards?19:00
pabelangermwhahaha: you should be using
AJaegerclarkb: yes, requiremetns repo itself19:00
hasharfungi: maybe move as-is to the new distro then upgrade minor version after minor version19:00
fungihashar: anyway, the actual question i had for you when i mentioned you earlier was mostly in regard to what "version 1.3" means in relation to the confirmedit extension, since it seems to be 1.3 in perpetuity now that it's bundled in the mediawiki source tree. i'm guessing when an extension switches to bundled they cease versioning it separately?19:00
mwhahahapabelanger: k let me double check19:00
hasharfungi: and we do delete the wmfX branches after a while :/19:00
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hasharfungi: ConfirmEdit has its own version that is inherited from the past and might be bumped randomly (apparently master says 1.4.0)19:01
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hasharfungi: but for compatibility with MediaWiki you really want to look at the branch.  If you have MediaWiki 1.25.x , you want ConfirmEdit from REL1_25 branch19:02
mwhahahapabelanger: we do19:02
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clarkbanyone want to comment on my email re tesing on xenial before I send it? also we all good with monday ?19:02
pabelangermwhahaha: okay, give it a try again19:02
mwhahahai was just looking in the wrong place manually, let me wait for the rechecks to come through19:02
hasharfungi: 1.25wmf4   can be considered a beta version of 1.2519:02
fungihashar: got it. that makes a bit more sense. so just because the confirmedit extension page says 1.3 is compatible with mw 1.25+ doesn't mean that _all_ 1.3 versions are compatible with 1.25?19:03
hasharfungi: correct19:03
anteayaclarkb: can you add the target to the etherpad? you are sending to openstack-dev ml?19:03
clarkbyes to -dev will add19:03
hasharfungi: when we prepare a release, we blindly cut the release branch from the master of each of extension19:03
anteayaclarkb: thank you19:03
fungihashar: and yeah, my plan for the mw upgrade as it stands is to copy the current deployment (files and database) and try upgrading it with the usual scripts so that i get the relevant database migrations run19:03
jpmaxmanso question is should we try to find a 1.25 (stable) version19:04
hasharfungi: definitely do that on a test instance / db copy.19:04
jpmaxmanor move to something more recent19:04
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jpmaxmanthe website says19:04
jpmaxmanLegacy versions (1.26.3)19:04
jpmaxmanbut not sure what the PHP dependency is19:04
hasharfungi: and always always backup :)19:04
hasharjpmaxman: you should aim at the latest version of 1.25.x   with extensions upgraded based on REL1_2519:05
hasharthat should give you a working set19:05
hasharthen upgrade to latest 1.26.x  and extensions from REL1_2619:05
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fungihashar: definitely, the plan for the distro upgrade is to use a completely separate server and database copy, but we do take daily backups too19:06
jpmaxmanwell fungi is working on the big upgrade19:06
anteayaclarkb: changed one sentence into two and looks good to me19:06
jpmaxmanto just get no captcha19:06
anteayaclarkb: thank you19:06
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jpmaxmanI guess we could go for
hasharMediaWiki minor versions are really major versions (stuff breaks, api change etc). But none of the old school want to create a MW 2.0 :)19:06
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fungihashar: do you happen to know what the last mw release was to support php 5.3.x?19:07
anteayajpmaxman: I'm fine with whatever hashar suggests as something to try19:07
jpmaxmanso moving to the 1.25.0 looks like released May 2015 - probably a decent chang19:07
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AJaegerclarkb: a small cleanup ^19:08
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jpmaxmanfungi:  I don't know maybe better to disable new logins and double down on moving to the most recent release19:08
hasharfungi: 1.26.x19:08
fungihashar: thanks, just making sure i'm aware of what our options are there19:09
hasharfungi: 1.27.x is the long time release for the next 3 years and requires Zend 5.519:09
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jpmaxmanfungi:  up to you - I'm happy to work on an upgrade to 1.26 (legacy).19:09
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hasharfungi: and our tests for mw 1.26 runs the php version that comes from Precise19:10
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fungijpmaxman: yeah, focus on the major upgrade including newer distro release was what we had discussed at the summit (focus on wiki upgrade so we have better spam mitigation options at our disposal), but at least trying to keep it usable and under control while that's underway was worth a shot at least. 1.26 might be a bridge too far, though it also gives us more options that the 1.25 prerelease we're19:11
openstackgerritRicardo Carrillo Cruz proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add update_server method
fungion now19:11
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hasharaim at 1.25wmf4  --->  1.25.619:11
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hashar1.25wmf4 is the fourth iteration of Wikimedia going from 1.24 to 1.25.x19:11
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hasharfrom 1.25.0 to 1.25.6 they are really just patch fix / security issue so there is essentially barely any difference19:12
AJaegerthanks anteaya for review19:12
fungihashar: and then 1.25.6 to whatever the latest 1.26.x is (still on precise), and then from there to the latest current 1.27.x (on ubuntu trusty)?19:13
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hasharfungi: yeah sounds about right.  And at each step do snapshot the db :)19:14
jpmaxmanhashar: so your advice is to phase it... go to latest 1.25 first19:14
hasharjpmaxman: yes19:14
hasharjpmaxman: 1.25wmf4  is just a pre release of 1.2519:14
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hasharand I usually recommand to upgrade from a minor version to another one (eg:  1.25.x  --> 1.26.x --> 1.27.x )19:14
hasharprinciple of less surprises since a wide range of functions / class / methods are renamed/changed etc19:15
anteayaAJaeger: thanks for creating the patch19:16
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hasharjpmaxman: fungi: ping me as needed and feel free to hangout in #mediawiki . There are people here with much more experience in upgrading mw and/or with better timezone overlap :)19:17
fungihashar: thanks for your input! very helpful19:18
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Refactor mirror configuration script for scaling
jpmaxmanOk great. 1.25 would get us no capctha19:19
jpmaxmanWhy don't I start there19:19
jpmaxmanThe latest we can get on precise19:19
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clarkbno captcha is a more better version of plugin? /me tries to keep up while also staying out of the way19:20
AJaegerteam, FYI, I'll be offline tomorrow and might be busy next week, so expect far fewer reviews and comments then usual.19:20
jpmaxmanThe easier the final move to 1.27 on trust y should be19:20
fungijpmaxman: apparently 1.26 is also supposed to work on precise19:20
* AJaeger wishes everybody a nice weekend19:20
fungibut yeah, we'd want to do two upgrades in series tehre19:20
clarkbAJaeger: as long as I can wrangle you into reviewing the xenial things I am happy :) have a good weekend19:20
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jpmaxmanY just saying let's start with latest 1.25 per hashar19:20
AJaegerclarkb: I'll try on MOnday - but it looks so good, you'll make it ;)19:21
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anteayaAJaeger: enjoy your weekend19:21
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fungiclarkb: yes, nocaptcha is what google renamed recaptcha to, and now does javascript-based "humanity" tests as well as using harder to script captchas19:21
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hasharyea 1.25.6 will give you a good base. That is probably going to be the most challgenging  (and get REL1_25 extensions )19:21
anteayaAJaeger: as usual, thanks for all your hard work19:21
clarkbfungi: gotcha19:21
AJaegeryou're welcome, anteaya19:21
fungiclarkb: and apparently it can skip presenting the captcha part if its javascript-based tests are happy that you're not a bot19:22
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fungiso technically less annoying to users19:22
anteaya<-- goes to get some lunch19:22
clarkbI should lunch too19:22
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clarkbthen probably just going to try and dig into reviews for the rest of the day19:22
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clarkbthen go see docaedo for osic things19:22
clarkbdocaedo: you will be there this time right :P19:22
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fungijpmaxman: 1.25.6 upgrade sounds great for now. i'll check real quick that we have good backups on hand and do server and trove snapshots too just to be safe19:23
docaedoclarkb: woot! yes I will be there, would be great to see you!19:23
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docaedoclarkb: also, picking up tacos from los gorditos :)19:23
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mwhahahapabelanger: fyi looks like the manual sync has fixed it19:25
pabelangermwhahaha: great19:25
jpmaxmanOk was going to ask if I should work direct on server (taking backups) or take files and db dump to a dev server19:26
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fungijpmaxman: working on a separate dev server was the plan for the main upgrade, so maybe just working that out for the 1.25 upgrade as well makes the most sense. i can still do that by launching things from snapshots, but we'll need to tweak the db url to use a new hostname for the trove copy19:27
hasharpotentially you could copy the database on the server, install mediawiki 1.25.6  in parallel using a different vhost and play with it from there19:28
fungihashar: slightly complicated by the fact that the db is remote, so we need to to a little more dancing to get a copy of that going19:29
fungihashar: but also, having a separate dev server gives us the option to in-place upgrade the distro while working on the mw 1.26->1.27 upgrade phase later19:30
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jpmaxmanok fungi you lost me - so we want to create a clone ?  or spin up a new 12.04 server ?19:33
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fungijpmaxman: i'll boot a clone of the current 12.04 server and a clone of the current trove database19:34
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fungiwe can add dns and tweak the apache vhost name and dburi trivially and have a working copy to try upgrading from19:34
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fungifirst though, before i snapshot anything, i want to go ahead and clean up the current new spam so gimme a few19:35
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fungiokay, 9 spammer accounts and a few hundred spam pages from today have been deleted19:44
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anteayafungi: yay19:47
fungicurrently working on snapshotting things19:47
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Use flat encapsulation type for external network
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funginibalizer: mtreinish: just to confirm, you no longer need the subunit database backup from before the migration back in november, right? if not, i'll delete it now19:51
nibalizerfungi: not as far as I know19:51
nibalizerI'm certainly not keeping any important data there >_>19:51
anteayadocaedo: which MAX stop should I get off at?19:53
anteayadocaedo: I'm coming from Hillsboro19:53
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ianwgreghaynes / cinerama : meeting?20:00
greghaynesianw: unsure20:00
greghaynesianw: the review hasn't merged...20:00
anteayathe channel is free20:01
anteayayou can meet prior to the patch merging if you like20:01
anteayathere is no conflict with the channel20:01
greghaynesanteaya: awesome, ty20:01
fungiyeah, the irc meetings data is just bookkeeping so others know you've claimed it20:02
fungibut meeting functions work fine whether or not it's booked for you20:02
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anteayaand right now all 4 meeting channels are free in this time slot20:02
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fungihuh, some sort of POST_FAILURE on a job just tanked a nova change in the gate20:09
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/infra-manual: Update section on Gerrit permissions for shared permissions
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/infra-manual: Ensure project retirement removes dot files
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pabelangerfungi: I haven't looked but likely an SSH failure20:09
mtreinishfungi: yeah you can probably delete it20:10
anteaya'fatal: unable to connect to
fungithanks mtreinish20:10
mtreinishfungi: I also am not sure there is actually anything in there20:10
osnexusAnyone know how I can make sure that openSSH is installed on my nova VMs? I can ping them from my devstack cloud, but nowhere else, also can't SSH, even with permissions set20:10
mtreinishI remember there was a syntax error in the command and for a long time we were just storing the error message from mysqldump20:10
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anteayaI don't know why an unable to connect to git resulted in POST_FAILURE rather than FAILURE20:11
fungianteaya: yeah, weird. maybe it didn't20:11
fungianteaya: maybe that node ran into network trouble in rax-ord which caused _both_ the job payload to fail, and some ansible post task to fail as well20:12
fungiperhaps the synchronize or something20:12
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fungithe ansible logs for that job might say20:12
anteayaTASK [copy] returns no output20:12
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fungithat'd probably be it20:12
anteayaso your theory looks possible based on what I see20:13
anteayaand TASK [synchronize] failed20:13
fungimtreinish: there's 290gb of _something_ in that backup anyway, but regardless likely no need to keep it around now20:13
mtreinishok, I guess we fixed the syntax error at some point :)20:14
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clarkbnibalizer: on 332514 do you know why we run a centos beaker rspec job against that repo?20:17
clarkbnibalizer: we don't seem to run a trusty rspec job which is where we actually host the thing. But also those tests seem to have an invalid assertion. simple/ is part of the mirror...20:18
anteayathere is a rackspace maintenance scheduled to begin in an hour:
mtreinishfungi: oh, that might have been the one you did manually20:19
mtreinishprior to the last big migration20:19
nibalizerclarkb: yea i've never understood why we run centos beaker tests, and why we sometimes don't have trusty20:19
anteayaon ord20:19
fungimtreinish: for some reason the comment on it mentioned nibalizer, but as it was from back in november of last year i doubt any of us recall clearly20:20
mtreinishhmm, yeah dunno20:21
clarkbnibalizer: looks like that test is racy, it assumes that bandersnatch won't have run yet20:21
fungianteaya: ooh, fun--thanks for spotting20:21
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anteayafungi: yeah, didn't know if you had alerts on that or not20:21
anteayafungi: is there anything we should do?20:21
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add a job to sign tarballs and wheels
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nibalizerfungi: i likely made it?20:22
fungianteaya: oh, that says july 2520:22
nibalizeror maybe you made it?20:22
funginibalizer: that was my guess anyway20:22
anteayafungi: I mis-read, sorry20:22
fungianteaya: iad is mentioned on the one going on yesterday and today, but only in the title not in the description, so probably a typo20:22
anteayawell today is a thursday or July 25th is a Monday20:23
fungianteaya: details on the other one say iad is actually going to happen next wednesday20:23
fungion the 27th20:23
anteayalooks like more than one typo20:23
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fungianteaya: well, they're doing lon on the 25th20:23
anteayathanks for reading closer20:23
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nibalizer*radio crack* sysadmins please claim your backups or they will be deleted *crack*20:24
fungiiad on the 26th, ord on the 27th, dfw on the 28th20:24
anteayasure it says Starting Thursday, July 25th at 4:00 PM CDT20:24
anteayaJuly 25th isn't a Thursday20:24
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fungianteaya: hah, so much typo20:24
anteayabut in any case, glad you at least are digging into it20:24
fungianteaya: also, the impact looks like it'll likely be ~30 minutes of nodepool being unable to build new servers or delete used ones20:24
anteayato me it is like following a car with its left blinker on20:25
anteaya"something is going to happen sometime"20:25
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fungisince it's just "control plane" maintenance (openstack api calls will be disrupted)20:25
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fungiso in theory we'll see nodepool briefly struggle with nodes in iad on tuesday, ord wednesday and dfw thursday20:27
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/puppet-bandersnatch: Remove racy portion of rspec test
clarkbnibalizer: ^ that should fix that broken test20:27
clarkbif it passes I will likely just self approve20:27
fungijpmaxman: the trove snapshot completed almost immediately, but the nova snapshot is still churning according to rackspace. if it drags on into the evening i'll open a support ticket with them20:28
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anteayafungi: I hope your theory is correct, however it doesn't explain the nova failure, so just recheck the patch?20:30
fungianteaya: yes, i think the nova job failure is easier explained by "networking in the ord region is really, really unstable sometimes"20:31
fungii had a ticket open with them for ages trying to track it down, but eventually gave up20:32
pabelangerbefore I go a write one, can anybody recommend a simple git-backup script?20:32
anteayafungi: I'll recheck20:32
pabelangerideal git-backscript will take a list of projects from a file20:32
fungianteaya: ord is riding a fine line between providing some needed ci resources and causing too much disruption to continue using20:32
jpmaxmanfungi: support ticket with rackspace - fun!20:33
anteayado we have any graph to track that?20:33
jpmaxmanthank you :)20:33
fungijpmaxman: they're my favoritest20:33
clarkbjeblair: should 213952 be WIP'd in review too?20:33
openstackgerritsulochan-acharya proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable zuul jobs for craton and cratonclient
jeblairclarkb: hrm -- the actual code is in system-config because we aren't (or weren't?) using puppet-cgit at the time...20:34
jeblairit's relevant if we ever move20:35
fungijpmaxman: in the meantime i'm happy enough to keep manually blocking spammers and mass deleting their garbage. keeping on top of these through the new account log and webui is actually pretty quick20:35
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fungias long as we don't let it go for days without checking20:35
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fungiwe only seem to be getting maybe 10 in a 24 hour period under the present configuration20:36
clarkbpleia2: is there a change for gerritbot to support yaml config (re 330260)20:36
fungijpmaxman: though not sure if that will hold now that they have tasted blood. time will tell20:37
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/zuul: Ansible launcher: Use port 19885 for console streaming
jpmaxmanfungi if you want to rollback the new user account creation that's fine too20:39
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fungijpmaxman: if it gets worse i definitely will in the short term, but if the volume stays like this it's probably saner to just tread water handling the spam and let the community still create accounts as needed20:40
openstackgerritsulochan-acharya proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable zuul jobs for craton and cratonclient
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/puppet-hound: Add ulimit max-open-files param to puppet-hound
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jpmaxmanok - I'll try to jump on the wiki upgrade asap when the server comes online.  fair warning I'm headed out of the country on Sunday which may increase or decrease my productivity depending on several factors ;)20:42
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anteayajpmaxman: thanks for letting us know20:43
anteayajpmaxman: safe travels20:43
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anteayafungi: I picture you in a shark cage re: wiki spammers20:44
pleia2clarkb: yeah, I'lll get the link20:44
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fungijpmaxman: no worries--whatever help you're able to provide whenever you're available is more than appreciated!20:50
pleia2clarkb: left a comment in the change, but
pleia2so it looks like we need to wait since that one isnt ready20:50
clarkbpleia2: maybe use depends-on?20:50
fungijpmaxman: and yeah, the snapshot is still chugging20:51
fungii need to pop out and get groceries... bbiab20:51
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anteayafungi: enjoy shopping20:51
fungii wish20:51
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clarkbfungi: I am looking at 192187 and I don't understand why we have two different things in jeepyb that appear to do the same thing. YOu don't happen to recall what is going on there do you?20:51
* anteaya references the early conversation on hope20:52
clarkboh one is a cron and one is an exec20:52
clarkbnibalizer: crinkle does ensure_packages deal with the unique key constraint for package names in puppet?20:54
pleia2clarkb: yeah, I'll update the commit message20:54
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-infracloud: Add polling for image list tests
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crinkleclarkb: no all it does is not blow up if the package is already in the catalog20:55
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ianwhmm, this seems to be a new failure for tree caching -> (log_processor ... warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout.)20:56
clarkbcrinkle: thanks20:56
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clarkbcrinkle: if you have time can you double check my comment on 327707 (related to ensure_packages)20:58
crinkleclarkb: sure20:59
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clarkbfungi: do you think we should consider reparenting puppet-jenkins? we aren't using it and likely not very on top of jenkins things anymore21:00
clarkbalso last chance for people to look at otherwise I am sending that email and committing to monday switchover :)21:00
anteayaclarkb: what do you mean by reparenting?21:00
clarkbanteaya: give people who might care about it core and remove infra-core/root from it21:01
anteayaclarkb: ah yes, okay thanks21:01
anteayaclarkb: the suggestion makes sense to me21:02
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crinkleclarkb: i maybe misunderstood your question before, ensure_packages is basically the same as if ! defined(Package[])21:02
crinkleclarkb: i was thinking you meant the problem of installing a pip package and a system package both called the same thing21:03
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clarkbcrinkle: ah ok21:03
clarkbcrinkle: no I meant if we said install python-pip with apt twice21:04
clarkbthe stlib docs didn't really make it clear to me21:04
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clarkbcrinkle: does it require you use ensure_packages everywhere for that behavior or will it work with regular package resources?21:04
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Add zookeeper to nodepool.o.o
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nibalizerclarkb: yea you have to stick to it21:06
clarkbok so my comment is maybe partially valid since I don't think we use it for puppet-zuul or puppet-nodepool21:06
crinklewell no it's not really fundamentally different from if !defined21:07
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clarkbcrinkle: nibalizer concrete example is will that package there potentially break if ensure_packages is used in jeepyb and they are both run on the same host21:07
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crinklei don't think so but let me try it21:08
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clarkb(also sorry for not explaining this well the first time, I should've just used examples)21:09
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Create git-mirror on AFS
pabelangerjeblair: fungi: clarkb: would be interested in your thoughts on^ Adds the ability to mirror a git repo into AFS, for example
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jeblairpabelanger: why?21:10
clarkbianw: re 334260 I think I actually think it is the same key used in both cases. Nodepool creates a throwaway key that is used for the first login via config_drive when building snapshot images. Then the expectation is the key that zuul/jenkins user to ssh into the slaves is also given to nodepool so it can login to them to run the ready script21:10
pabelangerjeblair: tripleo-ci has a private mirror I am trying to kill21:10
pabelangerjeblair: and they currently mirror puppet repos their21:11
clarkbpabelanger: we have a git mirror farm... it works well...21:11
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pabelangerclarkb: Right, I was also thinking of that too.21:11
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clarkbI don't think client access to git should involve afs on the client side. we have thrown the idea round of using afs as the backend file system for the git repos though21:12
clarkbianw: I guess we don't require that they be the same key but I can't think of a good reason for them being different21:12
pabelangerclarkb: Ya, I'm not apposed to using something else. If we want to start adding random git repos to git.o.o that projects needs, I can see what is needed to do that21:13
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anteayaclarkb: and it looks like so far I'm the only one that has reviewed your draft post to the -dev list on making xenial default:
anteayaclarkb: but it does look good to me21:14
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openstackgerritVitaly Gridnev proposed openstack-infra/project-config: [sahara] sahara-coverage is non-voting job
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jeblairpabelanger: i don't think we should be mirroring 3rd party git repos at all21:22
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jeblairpabelanger: we have mirrors for the operating systems we support21:22
crinkleclarkb: nibalizer okay it does not what i expected at all
crinkleclarkb: so you're right we can't just mix them21:23
clarkbcrinkle: great thank you for sorting that out21:23
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pabelangerjeblair: Hmm, I'd like to think it would be the same thing we do with npm or (eventually gems), except the projects are from github21:23
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jeblairpabelanger: git repos aren't packages though21:24
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pabelangerI mean, I'm not opposed to telling a project they need to rely on But that might make it harder for me to kill the private mirror21:25
clarkbthey are sort of with Go not sure if they are in this case21:25
jeblairpabelanger: i would never tell a project to rely on github21:25
jeblairin fact, i've told projects that they must not rely on it21:25
clarkbbecause go doesnt really do packages based on its compile model21:25
jeblairpabelanger: for python projects at least, we ask that they use released software21:25
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pabelangerjeblair: Right, in this case it is puppet modules21:26
nibalizerclarkb: right but if we use only ensure_packages its ok right?21:26
pabelangerjeblair: which, we do a bad job of using for that too (eg: system-config)21:26
jeblairpabelanger: we're not building an openstack project21:26
pabelangerjeblair: True21:27
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mordredclarkb: yah. with go repos projects depending on github repos is unavoidable21:27
jeblairmordred: s/github/git/21:28
jeblairmordred: right? :)21:28
nibalizerer crinkle sorry21:28
clarkbnibalizer: maybe? but that would need a big concerted effort to update21:28
mordredjeblair: in reality, github21:28
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jeblairmordred: i thought you made a patch to support non-git?21:28
mordredjeblair: because 'package dependencies' for go are fully qualified21:28
mordredjeblair: it totally supports non-github locations21:28
mordredbut the majority of library depends are on github21:28
jeblairmordred: okay, thanks.  but i think this is getting off track21:28
mordredtelling a go dev not to depend on github repos would be like telling a python dev to not use anything on pypi21:29
jeblairmordred: i feel like this part of the conversation is about the morality of github21:29
jeblairwhich is not at all at issue21:29
crinklenibalizer: yeah that's also fine but i don't think we're going to update every module and system-config at once to make that happen21:29
mordredI'm not commenting on morality - I'm basically saying that if we reach a point where OpenStack has grown go projects, then at that point we may need to think seriously about github repo caching/mirroring in some manner21:29
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mordredas openstack has not yet done that21:29
jeblairpabelanger: i'm not saying i have a solution for the tripleo case.  i am saying that i do not believe that a general git repo mirroring system is, on its face, a good idea, since we generally ask openstack projects not to use git repos for dependencies.21:30
mordredI agree that projects should not have depends on github21:30
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nibalizercrinkle: yep21:30
nibalizerlet alone all the community modules we pull in21:30
mordredor that openstack projects in python should not depend on git repos generally21:30
nibalizerwhich is the problem with trying to fix that bug in stdlib and not in puppet core21:30
anteayathe nova mid-cycle has wrapped up, moving locations and traveling tomorrow21:31
hasharmordred: doesn't go has the equivalent of a  pypi archive of released software so you dont have to rely on git at all?21:31
mordredhashar: no21:31
mordredhashar: not even a little bit21:31
pabelangerjeblair: Ya, I'm kinda stuck at the moment too.21:31
crinklenibalizer: yeah totally21:31
pabelangerBy our logic, using seems like the better solution21:32
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mordredhashar: to allow for version pinning, there are some tools like glide that will allow you to vendor dependencies without having to check them into your repo, or other people just directly vendor and check in the vendored versions into their own repositories21:33
mordredbut deps are very much VCS-based21:33
jeblairpabelanger, mordred: maybe we do need a generic git repo mirroring system for some projects.  but as it's in direct contradiction to the policies around other projects, i think we need to be really clear about whether it's necessary and what it will be used for.21:34
hasharmordred: maybe look at how Debian manage them. They usually are very creative to solve dependencies issues21:34
mordredjeblair: yes, I wholeheartedly agree21:34
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pabelangerjeblair: mordred: let me push back on the tripleo mirror and see if using released puppet modules are an option too21:37
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Move methods from Pipeline to QueueItem
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Remove pipeline.getJobs
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notmorganShrews: LGTM.21:55
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openstackgerritElizabeth K. Joseph proposed openstack-infra/puppet-gerritbot: Migrate gerritbot config from ini to yaml
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fungijeblair: i've got a nova dev friend trying out gertty for the first time, hoping to use it to do some reviewing on the plane back from the mid-cycle. it's been doing an initial sync of nova changes for a half hour (over hotel wifi) and using ~20gb ram... leak? or expected behavior?22:24
fungithat's 20gb virt, 14gb res22:25
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fungilatest release from pypi, in a venv22:26
fungiahh, he's suspecting this is courtesy of sqlalchemy's caching layer22:27
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fungieventually oom'd and crashed out22:31
jeblairfungi: hrm.  i should probably set up an alternate gertty config to sync nova22:33
jeblairfungi: i do expect the git gc fixes to make a significant impact on speed at least once they are present22:33
jeblairnot so much ram tho22:33
clarkbok havent sent email yet due to emergency bank errands. yay autozone transactions in brooklyn22:40
clarkbwill do my best to send that out22:40
fungirecent cross-country road trip, huh?22:41
mordredclarkb: you sure that wasn't you?22:41
clarkbpretty sure22:41
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mordredclarkb: I mean, with the twins, maybe you're tired enough you've been sleep-roadtripping ?22:42
clarkbI hope I would have the good sense to do yellowstone instead of brooklyn22:42
mordredclarkb: I dunno - Meat Hook is in Brooklyn22:42
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jeblairfungi: i believe nova has enough open changes it will need this patch
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fungiahh, yeah i saw that skimming open gertty reviews22:51
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jeblairit takes about 10 seconds to fetch a ref from nova22:52
fungijeblair: speaking of gertty, what's the deal with the 1.3.2 tag not showing up in master's history?22:54
fungioh, it's on stable/1.322:54
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fungiis master working toward a 2.0.0 release now?22:54
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jeblairfungi: i think master had just moved significantly past 1.3.1 by the time i realized i needed 1.3.2...?22:55
fungior was that just a hotfix on top of 1.3.1 and you didn't want to make people upgrade to master?22:55
fungiokay, that22:55
jeblairyeah, it was one change22:56
jeblair131 -> 13222:56
jeblairfungi: the relevant change is also in master22:56
jeblairfungi: so i guess i could/should do the merge commit thing22:56
jeblairwhatda think?22:57
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jeblairfungi: also, i have a sync of nova running and am recording memory usage22:57
jeblairbut i'm using master, not 13222:57
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fungimight be interesting to see if master behaves significantly better than the last release22:58
fungithere are some 77(?) commits since then22:58
jeblairthere are a lot of changes.  a release is overdue; i started preparing for a release but haven't finished22:59
fungii can count a good dozen infra repos i'm in that situation with as well22:59
jeblairi really like the nova commit subject "Fix database poison warnings, part 10" for some reason23:00
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funginot only is it a great thing to fix, but it's so great it needs at least 10 parts!23:01
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jeblairfungi: so far vsz has gone from 354544 to 356996 in the 15 minutes it's been running23:02
fungithat's not sounding like his experience at least23:02
fungihe said it was growing at a rate of 5-10mb/sec for him23:03
jeblairah, yeah, that would be easy to spot and not what i'm seeing.  so master+333583 may be worth a shot23:03
jeblairwhat is the state of the gerrit gc change, btw?23:03
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fungioh, i think zaro had submitted an update to make it configurable but i don't believe i've reviewed that yet23:05
* fungi finds23:05
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fungijeblair: 33471423:06
fungireviewing now23:06
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fungilgtm. approving. then we need a system-config change to turn it on for us23:07
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fungiwhich appears to be 34238823:07
fungiyep, just went looking23:08
fungialso good, approving that too23:08
fungialso we got three new wikispammers whilst i was shoppingue de grocerie. smacking them down now23:09
ianwclarkb: sorry, dealing with plumber.  will context switch back into that change23:13
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Allow gertty-core to upload merges
ianwlifeless: if around, like to know your thoughts on data_files in setup.cfg with pbr, and if there is an interface to find them / behaviour under "pip install -e"23:14
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jeblairfungi: would you mind +3ing please?  then i'll merge that tag back in :)23:15
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-gerrit: allow override to run git gc instead of repack on repos
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fungijeblair: done!23:16
clarkbianw: I got distracted by the bank so no worries23:16
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jeblairfungi: do you use unified diff?  if so, can you look at
fungijeblair: i do indeed use unified diff23:18
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Set cron job to gc repositories instead of repack
fungihappy to take a look23:18
fungioh, right, i tried this change out and didn't see any appreciable difference in behavior23:19
fungii should test again23:20
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fungihrm, picking up newer sqlalchemy23:22
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fungiand newer gitpython23:22
fungiSuccessfully installed GitPython-2.0.7 SQLAlchemy-1.0.14 gertty-1.3.2.dev79 python-editor-1.0.1 setuptools-24.3.023:22
fungiyeah, no clue23:23
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jeblair"Programmatically open an editor, capture the result."23:23
fungithat was on a pip install -U <path to gertty checkout> in the gertty virtualenv i've been using23:23
jeblairmaybe something gitpython is doing now?23:23
fungii have a feeling that's for things like git commit interaction yeah23:23
jeblairhrm, i'm not seeing it used in gitpython master23:25
fungihaving a hard time finding a good example change to test-drive 315927 on23:25
jeblairmattoliverau: do you have an example change handy to demonstrate 315927?23:25
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pabelangerquestion about when we cache cirros images into DIB, where is that file list setup from?23:26
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clarkbpabelanger: devstack has a script we run that tells us23:27
fungipabelanger: devstack23:27
fungiokay, i think i can see it on 31702723:27
pabelangerclarkb: fungi: perfect, thanks23:28
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fungijeblair: mattoliverau: is it expected that this loses the bolding on changed characters between lines that are partially identical?23:29
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fungii need to try again without that change and see how it differs23:30
fungiahh, no i wasn't getting it on the lines i thought i would anyway23:30
fungijeblair: yeah, i think this makes 317027 (for example) more readable than without, and doesn't seem to adversely impact other changes i've poked at with it23:31
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fungi+1 from me23:32
fungilooks like a recent commit on master has also added the < Reply > links next to comment headers23:33
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openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed openstack/gertty: Add new lock-file setting to the config doc and reference config
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Allow gertty-core to upload merges
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Fix entry point name for delete-all subcommand
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fungijpmaxman: good news (everyone?), the wiki server snapshot completed while i was out, and i seem to have it successfully building a second server from the snapshot. i'll get it in dns and reconfigured once this finishes and let you know the hostname23:56
jamesmcarthurNice. Thanks fungi:23:57
fungilooks like i'll probably also need to tweak the ssl config in apache to use a self-signed cert on this one since we're doing https23:58
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