Wednesday, 2016-04-27

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rcarrillocruzBangers at Rainey St is awsm00:18
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Remove unused screenshots publisher  https://review.openstack.org/31011200:19
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Enable g-api and n-api for glance_store functional  https://review.openstack.org/30767001:03
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints  https://review.openstack.org/30927306:24
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openstackgerritVincent Françoise proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Promote experimental Tempest job to gate  https://review.openstack.org/31038309:22
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electrofelixwaynr zxiiro zaro: planning to push the 1.5.0 tag to release JJB today, any last things you want included?10:45
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openstackgerritVincent Françoise proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Promote experimental Tempest job to gate  https://review.openstack.org/31038312:00
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openstackgerritVasyl Saienko proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add ironic cleaning job  https://review.openstack.org/30447312:09
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openstackgerritSimon Pasquier proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add new repository for fuel-plugin-kafka  https://review.openstack.org/31022412:13
openstackgerritSimon Pasquier proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add fuel-plugin-lma-collector-release group  https://review.openstack.org/31043012:13
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zxiiroelectrofelix none from me13:01
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zaroelectrofelix: nope13:13
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electrofelixzxiiro zaro: ack, thanks13:15
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mnaserlol @ intel "ciao"13:23
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openstackgerritMykola Yakovliev proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Fix subdirectory param parsing  https://review.openstack.org/31046413:35
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fungiREMINDER: community task tracking fishbowl session 20 minutes from now in the hilton floor 4 mr40013:40
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persiaclarkb: facilities arrived, attempting to undo.13:46
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Zaracommunity task-tracking etherpad over at : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-infra-community-task-tracking13:56
Zara(linking it here so people can still find it after we scroll down)13:56
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pabelangerrcarrillocruz: the food was really good.14:07
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rcarrillocruzpabelanger: yup, and beer variety even better :D14:08
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rcarrillocruzi'm afraid i won't be able to attend the task tracking and landing page sessions, prepping my slides for a vbrownbag talk14:09
rcarrillocruzwill catch you on the ansible-puppet ones tho14:09
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openstackgerritAlexey Ovchinnikov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add Container experimental job for manila  https://review.openstack.org/31048414:16
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waynrelectrofelix: nothing on my mind14:18
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Shrewsrcarrillocruz: +2'd14:55
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openstackgerritRyo Tagami proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Adding support for Jenkins OpenStack Cloud Plugin  https://review.openstack.org/30694815:17
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Configure xenial-updates / xenial-backports on slaves now  https://review.openstack.org/31051315:21
pabelangerclarkb: looks like reprepro now has -security / -backports for xenial now15:21
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pabelangerclarkb: still need to run a test to confirm no issues15:22
clarkbyay15:22
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clarkbpabelanger: running tests without using the hack patch and they work?15:23
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pabelangerclarkb: Ya, I would like to launch devstack-gate using all mirror repos first, just to be safe.15:25
pabelangerbut if people think we are fine just enabling them, that works for me too15:25
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fungiREMINDER: new contributor landing page work session at 11:50 cdt (16:50 utc) in hilton floor 4 mr416a15:38
fungi1 hour 10 minutes15:38
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timrcI'll be there.  Sounds fun15:42
fungiyeah, we want to set up some continuously-published "how to contribute page" to replace the current loosely-maintained wiki page15:43
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timrcSounds like a good plan to me.  The description for this work session was generous.  I don't like using wikis for anything.15:49
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openstackgerritYaroslav Lobankov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: [WIP][Rally] Adding a new non-voiting job for `rally verify`  https://review.openstack.org/31015115:53
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openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Update deprecated from version to 1.5.0  https://review.openstack.org/31052715:57
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AJaegerfungi, I'm interested in the outcome of the how-to-page but have a conflict with a docs session (Install Guide), I'm sure you come up with something great ;)15:58
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electrofelixwaynr zxiiro zaro: missed an incorrect deprecation version that should be corrected by the above that I spotted doing a final review of the diffs since 1.4.015:58
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openstackgerritYaroslav Lobankov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: [WIP][Rally] Adding two new non-voiting jobs for `rally verify`  https://review.openstack.org/31015115:59
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anteayaheads up ironic third party ci folks have an issue scaling bare metal nodes, jroll will co-ordinate among the various operators to come up with a usecase/list of requirements16:02
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anteayaright now the expection is that some sort of interface will need to be written to interact with nodepool or to be in nodepool such that ironic can scale16:03
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fungiAJaeger: yep, i think it'll be trivial. probably mostly copy-paste how we're doing existing static publication16:03
anteayajroll is point of contact within ironic on this issue16:03
clarkbanteaya: jroll it is called nova16:04
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clarkbshpuld just work (tm)16:04
fungianteaya: are you summarizing from the last session (ironic testing) or is this related to the current one (ironic server pooling)?16:05
anteayaclarkb: so far the third party ci operator has been unable to figure that out such taht their needs are met16:05
anteayahallwalk track16:05
fungik, thx!16:05
anteayaa third party ci op got me, I found jroll we agreed to the above16:05
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anteayato avoid having every third party operator coming to us for the solution we point them back to jroll and co-ordinate with him16:06
anteayahe is aware and has agreed16:06
clarkbya tell tgem to use nova :)16:06
anteaya:)16:06
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jrollclarkb: well, if you're testing ironic, the ironic under test will need exclusive access to the power management interface. if you're using nova/ironic to reserve nodes, the ironic under test no longer has exclusive access16:09
clarkbthats separate of nodepool though16:09
jrollclarkb: we did get it sorted, there's a thing people are working on to reserve bare metal nodes to run jobs against16:10
clarkbnodepool talks to nova + ironic16:10
jrollsure, kinda16:10
clarkbyour tests run a different iro ic16:10
anteayaclarkb: my inclusion of nodepool may be premature16:10
anteayareplace my use of nodepool with 'some kind of tool'16:10
jrolla job needs a computer to run devstack in, and a piece of hardware to register with the ironic service under test16:10
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jrollwhether nodepool does that reservation or not, meh, but feels like it could fit16:10
clarkbyes and for that reservation you use nodepool + nova16:11
clarkbthat should not interact in any way with the software under test16:11
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jrollyou can't use nova for the hw reservation16:11
clarkbthat soubfs like a bug16:11
jrollbecause then the nova/ironic system managing that hw conflicts with the nova/ironic being tested that needs to talk to that hw16:12
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jrolland they will fight16:12
clarkbseparate them is ehat I am saying16:12
clarkbthe code under test should not interact with nodepool16:12
jrollI feel like we need 5m and a whiteboard16:12
clarkb(this is dangerous)16:12
jrollno, I agree with that16:12
anteayajroll: sorry to force the conversation now16:12
jrollanteaya: it's fine16:12
anteayaI mostly just wanted to record the agreement16:12
anteayajroll: thanks for understanding :)16:13
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clarkbjroll the tripleo test model should work fwiw16:13
clarkbnodepool makes VM, VM has access to reserved hardware set16:13
clarkbreservation goes aaay when test completes16:13
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jrollclarkb: how do they reserve a piece of hw to give to the VM16:14
jroll?'16:14
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clarkbjroll tripleo uses a gearman job "handle" each env has a worker, when you get that worker thr env is yours16:17
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clarkbyou could also use zk or other things to track the reservation16:18
clarkbits in the tripleo ci repo for their thing iirc16:18
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jrollclarkb: right, so that was the open question, what do we use there? :)16:19
jrollmaybe what tripleo does, is the thing, other folks have written things to do this as well16:19
jrollyay, same page, thanks man16:19
fungikrotscheck: in fact, we even have a puppet module anyone can use to deploy an app catalog of their own16:19
krotscheckNeat!16:20
krotscheckfungi: Thanks :)16:20
anteayaI didn't know about the tripleo thing, TIL16:20
anteayathanks clarkb16:20
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krotscheckfungi: Overall, this seems like a pretty sane solution.16:20
fungikrotscheck: docaedo wrote the puppeting for that almost a year ago16:20
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docaedokrotscheck fungi - is there more context? Wondering where "deploy an app catalog of your own" came from :)16:23
krotscheckdocaedo: The horizon xstatic-constraints discussion.16:23
jeblairjroll, anteaya: i think the tripleo thing is called the 'broker'16:23
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Update deprecated from version to 1.5.0  https://review.openstack.org/31052716:23
docaedokrotscheck: ah ok thanks - wish I was there, but in the app developer training session16:23
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krotscheckdocaedo: How is that?16:24
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anteayajeblair: thank you16:25
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docaedokrotscheck: it's good, enjoying this conversation, think it's going to lead to a lot more hackathon/training things going forward (with some directed support from the foundation)16:25
jeblairjroll, clarkb, anteaya: of course we plan to address that in nodepool for zuulv3, but that doesn't help you today; if there's an immediate need, i agree the toci broker is probably the way16:26
fungidocaedo: right, further context was around the app catalog (not the horizon plugin) being okay with not being coinstallable on the same server as a horizon service due to possibly depending on divergent xstatic package versions16:26
jeblairlunch is going to be just about the right time to restart apache on etherpad16:26
docaedofungi: thanks, yeah app catalog is never meant to be installed locally (IMO, and from original mission), it's like ask openstack in that sense16:27
fungijeblair: thanks, was going to ask if anybody had a chance to look at it yet16:27
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jeblairit still has some headroom16:27
anteayajeblair: thank you, I think it is worthwhile to point folks at the tripleoci broker at this time and gather feedback on their user experience of going that route, jroll?16:28
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jeblairvery broadly speaking, i think we have about 30 processes with stuck connections, 90 in use, and 6 more can be launched (each process handles 32 threads)16:32
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fungibefore you (or whoever) restarts it, reminder to also grab detailed netstat output and put it on paste.o.o or somewhere16:34
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fungiassuming it looks like it might contain any further insights16:35
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anteayajroll: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/tripleo-ci/tree/elements/testenv-worker/README.md16:36
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mikalfungi: so, as best as I can tell both bluebox and osic have nested virt turned on already16:41
mikalfungi: is there a simple way we could test that?16:42
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openstackgerritCraige McWhirter proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Removed myself from this spec  https://review.openstack.org/29852316:42
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fungimikal: i suppose we could tweak up a change for devstack that exercises nested virt and keep rechecking it to see how it performs in different places16:47
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fungimikal: keep in mind that bluebox is pretty tiny (current quota is sufficient for 39 nodes) so not hit very often16:48
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jeblairfungi, mikal, clarkb: did i try this on ovh when we bootstrapped it?16:51
clarkbyes we turned it off16:51
clarkbdoesnt work16:51
clarkbalso didnt affect runtime dramatically16:52
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clarkbit makes the test machines crashy16:52
electrofelixzaro fungi jeblair: just spotted I don't have privileges to push a signed tag for JJB to trigger a release, would one of you like to release 1.5.0?16:53
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Don't remove packages from the delorean-deps repository  https://review.openstack.org/30842117:10
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Remove metric from previous runs  https://review.openstack.org/30842217:10
jrolljeblair: anteaya: that may work, thank you17:10
anteayajroll: thank you!17:10
anteayajroll: please share feedback of ci operator's experience if they try that direction17:10
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jrollanteaya: sure17:11
anteayathanks17:11
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openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Sort the freeze_venv output  https://review.openstack.org/30979317:12
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add python34 jobs to bashate  https://review.openstack.org/31008517:16
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asselinjesusaur, you around?17:38
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asselinzaro, fungi how can you tell if gerrit has stuck threads?17:47
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clarkbI am in 416 early if anyone eants to start poking at ansible puppet things18:17
clarkbI think that is the next session /me double checks18:18
asselinclarkb, if you see jesusaur can you ask him to ping me?18:20
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clarkbasselin: sure18:21
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Prepare to remove devstack-centos7  https://review.openstack.org/30968418:27
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openstackgerritsebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid-resources: Added new endpoint  https://review.openstack.org/31055818:31
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/openstackid-resources: Added new endpoint  https://review.openstack.org/31055818:34
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jesusaurasselin: hey18:34
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asselinjesusaur, hi, sent you  apm18:35
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crinklepuppet session happening at the same time as ansible/puppet infra session, ping me if i'm needed in infra session18:43
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jeblairrestarted apache on etherpad18:44
jeblairelectrofelix is not here; but zaro, fungi -- maybe we could release jjb next week to avoid potential surprises during summit?18:44
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waynrjeblair: next week would probably be fine for jjb release18:46
waynras far as i'm concerned18:46
jeblairwaynr: cool18:47
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waynri think we met our summit goal of getting all the 1.5 prerequisite patches reviewed18:47
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waynrby the way jeblair i saw your lightning talk on gertty on monday, makes me want to give it another shot18:48
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openstackgerritMark Vanderwiel proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable lbaasv2 jobs into check and gate queues  https://review.openstack.org/30301718:49
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fungijeblair: i thought the contention on jjb releasing is that they want to tag a checkpoint to be able to branch from before starting to land jjb 2.0 feature work, but we may still want to talk about pinning jjb in infra as we approach zuul 2.518:50
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waynrfungi: if i understand correctly, we wanted to make master branch on jjb the head of development for 2.x work moving forward18:51
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waynrthen if any additional work is necessary for 1.x we can make another branch18:52
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waynras for pinning JJB in infra, that sounds reasonable but so far the only backwards-incompatibility we are targeting for 2.0 is in the Python API, nothing in the plugin modules or YAML DSL18:53
anteayawhat room is infra in?18:53
jeblairwaynr: youtube?  (i thought i recall you saying you weren't here -- right?)18:53
anteayait isn't 415A18:53
waynrjeblair: I am here, about to head to the infra work session in a bit18:53
waynranteaya: MR 416A Hilton18:53
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jeblairfungi: for this specific request for 1.5.0, i am not anticipating any problems (we CD our use of jjb anyway); i was just maybe being over-cautious18:54
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anteayawaynr: thank you, I must have read the schedule wrong18:55
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jeblairbut i'm not opposed if others want to proceed.  mostly just saying 'lots of us are distracted this week' :)18:58
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samueldmqdhellmann: jeblair: I'd appreciate you putting some weight on 264398, it already has +2 from ttx19:12
openstackgerritMarton Kiss proposed openstack-infra/groups: Update Organic Groups to 2.9  https://review.openstack.org/31056819:13
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bkerojeblair: should I file a bug for the 79-cols problem?19:16
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openstackgerritMarton Kiss proposed openstack-infra/groups: Update Features to 2.10  https://review.openstack.org/31057019:19
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jpmaxmanfungi jeblair all enjoyed the wiki contributor page meeting.  I didn't want to derail the meeting by getting involved in the openstack.org discussion, but I did bring it up with jamesmcarthur to see if he wanted to talk to you.  The only real input I have is that if you are going to do some sort of HTML / GIT static website with pushes I'd recommend using19:27
jpmaxmansome sort of templating engine like http://jinja.pocoo.org/ - we could maybe even come up with a starter template to kick it off if you like.19:27
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pabelangerclarkb: we have no more devstack-centos7 ready nodes.  okay to proceed with devstack-centos7 images?19:30
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pabelangerclarkb: actually, need to wait for image uploads to finish19:32
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fungijpmaxman: yep, talked to him just now as well. i agree the idea is to start with a static placeholder with the basic info we want, then try out using a templating engine to organize that and format it, then see how we want to integrate it into the continuous publishing pipeline after that19:32
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jpmaxmansounds good - if you need any help feel free to ask :D19:33
clarkbpabelanger: ya once uploads are done we can delete the images on disk and in clouds, then restart the builder19:33
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fungiclarkb: were you saying you planned to hit the kolla functional testing next?19:34
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clarkbfungi: ya I think I may go there19:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/groups: Update Organic Groups to 2.9  https://review.openstack.org/31056819:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/groups: Update Features to 2.10  https://review.openstack.org/31057019:36
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clarkbpabelanger: 43 images to upload... maybe check in at the end of the day and try to get it done?19:43
clarkbpabelanger: basic process is delete the devstack-centos7 images, delete the dib images, restart builder19:43
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clarkbmordred: there are a few leaked fips in bluebox, I don't see any on osic19:47
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clarkbmordred: I can clean them up or wait for you to do debugging19:48
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openstackgerritCraige McWhirter proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Removed myself from this spec  https://review.openstack.org/29852319:51
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rcarrillocruzpabelanger: heya, need to chat with you about ansible roles naming in git.openstack.org and how that integrates with galaxy, seems you have a bunch like that20:07
AJaegerHi project-config cores, I just got asked whether we could merge https://review.openstack.org/296144 - a new project soonish - so that they can create some specs. I pointed them to etherpad for now ;), still reviews might be nice.20:07
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anteayafungi it is up to infra root to delete this redundant project in storyboard, yes? https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/83020:10
clarkbI am not sure what the story (ha!) is for removing project from storyboard20:11
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anteayawhen we renamed puppet-openstack-health to puppet-openstack_health we did not remove the puppet-openstack-health project from storyboard20:12
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anteayaclarkb: I hesitate pointing openstack_health story creaters to storyboard while there is potential for confusion20:13
anteayaright now neither project has any stories, so deleting the old project on storyboard doesn't require migrating any stories20:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Create openstack-resource-agents-specs git repo  https://review.openstack.org/29614420:24
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard: Add docstring for due dates DELETE endpoint  https://review.openstack.org/30780620:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard: Update API docs to include worklists, boards, and due dates  https://review.openstack.org/30780720:24
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waynrjeblair fungi zaro let's go ahead and hold off on jjb 1.5.0 untill we can do it with less uncertainty--i am not aware of anyone with a pressing need for 1.5.0 yet; what really matters is that i can begin rebasing the 2.x work now that we have all 1.5.0 patches merged20:26
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AJaegerthanks, pleia2 !20:29
AJaegeraspiers: ^20:29
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openstackgerritDan Prince proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Revert "Temporarily disable mistral on the undercloud"  https://review.openstack.org/31058420:30
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timrcmtreinish: OpenStack Health is up on the big screen in this talk lol20:45
timrcmtreinish: Apparently you have at least one really huge fan ;-)20:45
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timrcmtreinish: Integral to this fellows workflow.20:47
dmelladotimrc: hey, it ain't that bad xD20:48
timrcNo, I think it's cool that there is someone talking at length on how he uses it.20:48
timrcThat's great validation.20:49
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timrcmtreinish: http://i.imgur.com/HFq3LjP.jpg20:50
dmelladotimrc: got it, I'm just seeing the same presentation xD20:51
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jeblairjpmaxman: oh hi!  cool.  if you see me again, please introduce yourself :)20:58
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jpmaxmanWill do. Almost did at the meeting jeblair but had to get to another meeting21:06
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Don't try to update tasks if they don't have an ID  https://review.openstack.org/30892621:41
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anteayaI just hit my wall21:46
anteaya<- exhausted21:47
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Zaraaw21:49
docaedoanteaya: you've done great stuff in the sessions I've witnessed, thank you for all the effort!21:49
docaedoanteaya: you deserve a mojito! (or whatever you would consider a rewarding and relaxing beverage :) )21:49
anteayadocaedo: thank you for saying so, please introduce yourself next time we share a room, would enjoy meeting you21:49
anteayathanks mojito works21:49
docaedoanteaya: yes I have intended to on two occasions, but schedule has me running from one session to the next - I'll make sure it happens tomorrow though21:50
anteayain the neutron room, many people who are frustrated, acoustics are poor, noisy slamming doors21:50
docaedo(more than two - but two times jump to mind where i almost had a chance)21:50
anteayahallway noise at a constant low level21:50
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anteayadocaedo: I look forward to meeting you21:51
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docaedoanteaya: +121:52
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anteaya:)21:52
Zaramtreinish hi! can I quiz you about your workflow sometime? I'd like to find out what kinds of features you (or anyone in a similar position, really) need in a task-tracker so we can get it right21:53
fungianteaya: oh, fun. our rename process actually accounts for that rename step in sb for projects using sb. i guess we missed doing that, in which case yes it's a db edit by a root admin21:53
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anteayafungi: thanks for checking that it is in fact accounted for in our workflow21:54
anteayafungi: great, I'll keep bugging until someone has a moment to focus on a db edit and make that change21:55
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fungiappreciated. i should be able to do it but probably not today21:55
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anteayafungi: understood, db edits need full focus21:55
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fungiyeah, i don't want to run a slightly wrong query and blow it all away21:56
anteayafungi: good call, not an end of day in a summit session kind of activity21:56
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fungiwe do have backups, but that would still be unnecessary pain best avoided22:04
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anteayafungi: agreed22:10
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anteayafungi: oh yeah, who can check the status of the houston ecopod?22:11
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anteayarcarrillocruz: any idea where yolanda is?22:11
anteayayolanda: wherefore are thou?22:11
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rcarrillocruzyolanda is not in Austin, she's on leave due to family reasons22:12
rcarrillocruzcouldn't do it the summit22:12
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pabelangerWill be dropping my laptop off at the hotel. Sadly I have no IRC client on my phone currently. If a social is ongoing tonight, I'd love to sync up. I currently only have access to personal email from my mobile device (pabelanger@gmail.com). Otherwise, I'll see everybody again in the morning22:14
openstackgerritPeter Stachowski proposed openstack-infra/project-config: [trove] Set up py34 job for trove-dashboard  https://review.openstack.org/31060322:14
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anteayapabelanger: ack, I have a slim chance of dancing tonight but I'm pretty much exhausted, I'm thinking dinner and hotel room myself22:15
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Revert "Temporarily disable mistral on the undercloud"  https://review.openstack.org/31060422:18
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