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| greghaynes | prometheanfire: how reliable is the upstream mirroring for that? | 00:37 |
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| greghaynes | prometheanfire: it passed, which is a good sign :) | 00:38 |
| prometheanfire | greghaynes: it should be extremely reliable | 00:40 |
| greghaynes | awesome | 00:40 |
| prometheanfire | greghaynes: probably more so then tarballs.o.o unless that's on a cdn | 00:41 |
| prometheanfire | as reliable as the kernel at least, one of our mirrors is osusol | 00:41 |
| bkero | osuosl \o/ | 00:41 |
| greghaynes | hah | 00:41 |
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| prometheanfire | thanks for the review | 00:42 |
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| prometheanfire | bkero: you know lance? | 00:42 |
| prometheanfire | he used to be a gentoo guy, not sure anymore | 00:42 |
| bkero | prometheanfire: I was an admin at the osl for 5 years | 00:44 |
| prometheanfire | heh | 00:44 |
| prometheanfire | very funny | 00:44 |
| bkero | Yeah, I know Lance | 00:45 |
| bkero | He doesn't do much Gentoo anymore | 00:45 |
| prometheanfire | I think it's just ganeti, if that | 00:45 |
| bkero | Yep. He runs an Icehouse cluster too | 00:45 |
| prometheanfire | tell him to get up to date | 00:46 |
| prometheanfire | I package it for a reason :P | 00:46 |
| sc` | woo icehouse! :( | 00:46 |
| bkero | I don't think the reason he's on icehouse is packaging problems | 00:46 |
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| prometheanfire | doubt it, no one would actively choose that fate | 00:47 |
| sc` | the reason i'm on icehouse is tech debt | 00:47 |
| prometheanfire | upgrading our customers is fun, keeping them in the 'supported' window | 00:47 |
| sc` | upgrading is going to be... interesting | 00:48 |
| prometheanfire | at that mount blue/green repave | 00:49 |
| prometheanfire | imo | 00:49 |
| sc` | that's pretty much the song i've been singing | 00:49 |
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| prometheanfire | well, I wish you luck | 00:51 |
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| sc` | it'll probably spawn a talk of some sort | 00:53 |
| prometheanfire | I've been trying to get a gentoo talk going, but not sure there's much intresting to talk about, didn't even submit this session | 00:54 |
| prometheanfire | I really want to get support for us into openstack-ansible so I don't have to package anything anymore (except the clients maybe) | 00:55 |
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| prometheanfire | but that | 00:56 |
| prometheanfire | but that's a year away | 00:57 |
| sc` | i submitted something for chefconf that is openstack related, since there is a project dealing with the cookbooks | 00:57 |
| sc` | missed the deadline for austin | 00:57 |
| prometheanfire | ya, I talked with the guy doing chef openstacky things last midcycle (liberty) | 00:58 |
| prometheanfire | I used to do a bunch of chef stuff | 00:58 |
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| prometheanfire | puppet/cfengine for gentoo infra, ansible for work, chef for work previously, only thing I'm missing is salt | 00:58 |
| sc` | i pretty much exclusively work with chef these days. did some salt and ansible in the past | 00:59 |
| prometheanfire | at some point it all blends together :P | 01:00 |
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| prometheanfire | I hear the infra osic stuff is going well (or at least the cluster is active) | 01:01 |
| prometheanfire | when is it going to be added to nodepool (might already be for all I know) | 01:01 |
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| SamYaple | prometheanfire: there are osic nodes ive seen my gates run on | 01:38 |
| SamYaple | if thats what youre asking | 01:38 |
| prometheanfire | oh, nice | 01:38 |
| noorul | dougwig: hi | 01:41 |
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| AJaeger | not sure how I could have missed the error in reviewing fixed with ^ | 07:37 |
| AJaeger | project-config cores, quick reviews are welcome! | 07:37 |
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| mordred | prometheanfire: http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/nodepool-osic | 14:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Use shade for all OpenStack interactions https://review.openstack.org/226751 | 16:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Sam Yaple proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Use fstrim to prep the block device https://review.openstack.org/290944 | 16:25 |
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| mordred | SamYaple: don't you love it when you have to rebase? | 16:26 |
| mordred | SpamapS: ^^ | 16:26 |
| SamYaple | mordred: yea i _just_ firgued out why | 16:27 |
| SamYaple | it was based on an old patchset | 16:27 |
| SamYaple | that information is not made clear | 16:27 |
| SamYaple | wasnt there a patchset-out-of-date message in the past mordred? | 16:27 |
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| mordred | ish. there is some weirdness about gerrit merging vs. zuul merging | 16:28 |
| clarkb | yes, then gerrit decided to make the web ui completely unusable instead of just mostly unuseable | 16:28 |
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| mordred | and that | 16:28 |
| SamYaple | clarkb: lol thats it then | 16:28 |
| clarkb | the old UI would say "Outdated" | 16:28 |
| * mordred looks forward to the day when zuul pushes its merges back to gerrit instead of having gerrit do the merge | 16:28 | |
| SamYaple | this way has a gray dot by a related change | 16:28 |
| SamYaple | yay | 16:28 |
| mordred | SamYaple: grey on white - who doesn't want that? | 16:28 |
| SamYaple | with no legend! | 16:29 |
| SamYaple | some are grey, some yellow. some red | 16:29 |
| SamYaple | w00t | 16:29 |
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| clarkb | it is hard to get excited for the new third ui because if history is an indication it iwll be worse yet | 16:29 |
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| SamYaple | clarkb: i will say after getting used to it i enjoy the patchset diffs, except when they pull in unrlated changes (like after a rebase) | 16:30 |
| SamYaple | i know you could od it before, but its easier now | 16:30 |
| clarkb | the new diffs are terrible | 16:30 |
| clarkb | ^F is broken | 16:30 |
| clarkb | so is scorlling | 16:30 |
| SamYaple | clarkb: i said the only thing i liked was it made it easier. it broke alot of other stuff | 16:31 |
| SamYaple | but afaik there was no way to see what files changed in the last version from patchset to patchset | 16:31 |
| clarkb | they also broke 'f' | 16:31 |
| SamYaple | F is kill | 16:31 |
| clarkb | SamYaple: there is... | 16:31 |
| clarkb | you change the base just like you do in the new one | 16:31 |
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| SamYaple | clarkb: yea but that was so much clicking | 16:31 |
| clarkb | the only difference is new one does it in the diff view and not only on the change view | 16:32 |
| SamYaple | yea thats what im talking about | 16:32 |
| SamYaple | let me find one positive thing! | 16:32 |
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| clarkb | my biggest issue so far is that the new ui is patchset oriented and not change oriented | 16:33 |
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| clarkb | makes it really easy to lose change context | 16:34 |
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| clarkb | which is an odd choice for them given that changes are the review atom | 16:34 |
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| SamYaple | yea i get that. it works well when reviewing the same patch 3-4 times in one day, but.... | 16:34 |
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| mordred | clarkb: ++ | 16:37 |
| mordred | it's VERY confusing moving from patch to patch in the dependency chain | 16:37 |
| clarkb | I know that "related changes" was advertised as one of the great features in new gerrit, but I find it to be one of the worst and don't use it | 16:38 |
| clarkb | instead I manually copy pasta sha1's and search on that if I need to | 16:38 |
| SamYaple | wow. that sounds horrible | 16:39 |
| SamYaple | we should complain to management | 16:39 |
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| clarkb | the best part is upstream tells us we are crazy and that you "get used to it" if you just use it | 16:39 |
| clarkb | :| | 16:40 |
| clarkb | nevermind that it is provably wrong | 16:40 |
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| SamYaple | heres a question... can we, you know, not use it? | 16:40 |
| clarkb | yup, gertty is an option | 16:40 |
| SamYaple | thats what i use | 16:40 |
| SamYaple | but its not quite there, i use it 80% to 20% web | 16:41 |
| clarkb | and there is the third generation web ui from gerrit itself | 16:41 |
| clarkb | which is less functional than gertty | 16:41 |
| clarkb | but under active development so should get better? | 16:42 |
| SamYaple | hey have you guys thought about signing the jenkins servers? | 16:43 |
| SamYaple | letsencrypt will give you free certs.... | 16:43 |
| clarkb | http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/#1531187 only affects rax-dfw, I wonder if we can get a set of uuids for rax and have them look into that | 16:43 |
| clarkb | SamYaple: the cost isn't the issue, there is just little need for it | 16:43 |
| SamYaple | my annoyance doesnt count? | 16:44 |
| clarkb | jenkins should be going away in zuulv3 and it laready isn't really an interface most people use | 16:44 |
| clarkb | and python isn't checking it eithre way \o/ | 16:44 |
| SamYaple | so youre saying me being annoyed is more of a "me" problem? | 16:45 |
| SamYaple | thanks buddy | 16:45 |
| clarkb | no, just that we are intending on solving your annoyance differently | 16:45 |
| SamYaple | haha im just kidding. its only a minor annoyance | 16:45 |
| SamYaple | zuulv3 will be able to reconnect to a lost connection right? | 16:48 |
| SamYaple | i think mordred told me that | 16:48 |
| clarkb | It will use ansible so I think you would express tha tthe same wa yo udo in ansible | 16:49 |
| clarkb | retry connection up to timeout | 16:49 |
| SamYaple | now forgive my ignorance, but the task thats running would be pulled from where? | 16:49 |
| SamYaple | because my worry is it starts a script off and then losses connections and that kills the script | 16:50 |
| SamYaple | thats just going to restart teh script again and i know alot of gate scripts are not idempotent | 16:50 |
| clarkb | I am not sure I understand the question | 16:50 |
| clarkb | its ansible so you should be able to do exactly the same thing in ansible tat you would do to handle reboots | 16:51 |
| mordred | yah | 16:51 |
| clarkb | do a tcp port poll for up to N minutes, if successful ssh back in else fail | 16:51 |
| mordred | it'll be ansible from zuul nodes | 16:51 |
| mordred | not from test nodes | 16:51 |
| mordred | ansible replaces jenkins in the equation | 16:51 |
| clarkb | oh right ansible does the ssh connection | 16:52 |
| mordred | yup | 16:52 |
| mordred | whic hmeans what you are saying is very accurate | 16:52 |
| SamYaple | so when i see the jenkins log stop polling now, the test node is still running, is that correct? | 16:52 |
| SamYaple | just tryin gto wrap my head around this | 16:52 |
| mordred | so - in jenkins land, jenkins establishes ssh connection to the node and then runs things "locally" on the node in question | 16:52 |
| mordred | in zuul v3 land, there will be an ansible worker in zuul that will be given one or more nodes in an inventory | 16:52 |
| mordred | so the playbook it runs to drive the test can do things on that node, and can also do things like "wait_for: port=22" or something in a step | 16:53 |
| mordred | since you'll never reboot the ansible worker | 16:53 |
| mordred | only the node on which tests are running | 16:54 |
| mordred | (rebooting a test node currently severs the job control connnection) | 16:54 |
| SamYaple | yes i get that | 16:54 |
| SamYaple | thats actually a reason im asking | 16:54 |
| SamYaple | im doing some fun networking stuff for kolla, but i need to add main interface to a bridge which severs connection | 16:55 |
| mordred | yah | 16:55 |
| clarkb | SamYaple: so there is a better way to do that specific thing | 16:55 |
| mordred | that should be totally fine in zuul v3 | 16:55 |
| clarkb | and we already do it for multinode testing | 16:55 |
| clarkb | you don't ever touch eth0 | 16:55 |
| SamYaple | clarkb: i believe you i have reviewed that code | 16:55 |
| clarkb | you have test networking over on the side | 16:55 |
| SamYaple | yes | 16:55 |
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| SamYaple | i wouldn't say its _better_ though, just that it works | 16:56 |
| clarkb | it is better in that it works on your laptop or on the test instances in $cloud | 16:56 |
| SamYaple | the main thing is we are trying to test how a user would, and that includes only having a single interface | 16:56 |
| SamYaple | for test things, not for production things | 16:57 |
| clarkb | and it doesn't require tooling external to the test to be fancy | 16:57 |
| clarkb | SamYaple: you still have a "single" interface | 16:57 |
| clarkb | as long as you don't touch host networking | 16:57 |
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| SamYaple | i know, we want to test "touch the host networking" since thats what we tell our users to do | 16:58 |
| SamYaple | im not arguing what you have doesnt work, im saying we want to test the way teh user would run it | 16:58 |
| clarkb | you do test it though, just with a virtual network | 16:58 |
| SamYaple | i understand what you are saying | 16:59 |
| clarkb | funnily enough in the infra cloud we have to do very similar due to hosting decisions that were made for us | 16:59 |
| clarkb | so for us at least the test env is very close to what we actually run | 16:59 |
| SamYaple | i can see that, but not what kolla users would run | 17:01 |
| clarkb | we have both tagged and untagged traffic going over eth3 as our single interface. Neutron doesn't know how to stitch that back together if you point it at eth3, so instead we have a silly bridge setup that segragates everything on separate interfaces and we hand neutron an bridge port that is unconfigured | 17:02 |
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| SamYaple | clarkb: interesteingly you can actually pull off vlan-traffic-from-instance with linuxbridge | 17:05 |
| SamYaple | its ovs that has a filter to strip it | 17:06 |
| clarkb | we are using linuxbridge, the VM traffic was fine, it broke host networking so our contorl plane went poof | 17:06 |
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| SamYaple | i dont know your access to the switching infrastructure underneath the instance, but you _can_ pull off tagged and untagged traffic with linuxbridge. ive had to do it before | 17:07 |
| SamYaple | not that im advocating for it by anymeans | 17:07 |
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| clarkb | so now we have something like eth3 - eth3.vlan - br-foo - veth-a - veth-b <- neutron | 17:09 |
| clarkb | which might get sane when they move the hardware | 17:10 |
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| SamYaple | clarkb: youre doing eth3 -> eth3.vlan in the devstack-gate multinode? | 17:14 |
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| clarkb | SamYaple: no, in devstack gate multinode its more complicated than that because we have to overlay | 17:14 |
| clarkb | but in both cases we hand neutron an unconfigured interface "detached" from host networking that it should used | 17:15 |
| clarkb | "here neutron take this virtual interface that you can do whatever you want to without breaking host networking" | 17:16 |
| SamYaple | clarkb: yea thats what i thought | 17:16 |
| SamYaple | thats not problem, we do that too | 17:16 |
| SamYaple | but how are you getting the neutron traffic to eth0 (or whatever interface the instance has) is my question | 17:16 |
| SamYaple | as in, how does it get out into the real world | 17:17 |
| clarkb | we don't in devstack-gate | 17:17 |
| SamYaple | thats what i thought | 17:17 |
| clarkb | the traffic can only pass across the overlay | 17:17 |
| clarkb | so it doe sgo between test instances | 17:17 |
| SamYaple | yup and thats cool but if we setup the bridge with eth0 we can do tests to the internet (which is our goal) | 17:17 |
| SamYaple | anyway to circle back around, the only reason we cant do that is currently jenkins doesnt reestablish communication | 17:19 |
| clarkb | yup jenkins treats an ssh communication fail as a fialed job | 17:19 |
| clarkb | but since you have control of the controlling ansible process you should be able to have it do a port poll and reconnect with a timeout | 17:20 |
| clarkb | ansible run break networking && poll port 22 && continue | 17:20 |
| SamYaple | yea that would work. might just use async on a script so it just reestablishes perodiacally | 17:21 |
| SamYaple | but many options, yes | 17:21 |
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| AJaeger | greghaynes: could you answer the questions on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245297 , please? | 18:28 |
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| greghaynes | AJaeger: replied | 18:32 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: or someone else around should confirm my understanding is correct | 18:33 |
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| AJaeger | greghaynes: thanks, that helps. Let's see whether yolanda and pabelanger are happy now ;) | 18:35 |
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| AJaeger | greghaynes: did you see pabelanger's question "Any reason why we are only doing this for ubuntu DIBs and not the other types?" | 18:35 |
| greghaynes | oh, I didnt see that one | 18:35 |
| * greghaynes replies to that too | 18:35 | |
| AJaeger | thanks! | 18:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix heat job definition https://review.openstack.org/292134 | 19:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Publishing barbican API Guide to OpenStack site https://review.openstack.org/285519 | 19:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Templatize api guide jobs https://review.openstack.org/292135 | 19:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Publishing barbican API Guide to OpenStack site https://review.openstack.org/285519 | 20:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Templatize api guide jobs https://review.openstack.org/292135 | 20:00 |
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| AJaeger | ianw, or any other project-config core: Could you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292134/ , please? That unblocks heat... | 20:03 |
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| SamYaple | can someone ack https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290944/ i had to rebase | 20:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Properly fail/trap in eval_run_d https://review.openstack.org/259734 | 20:44 |
| greghaynes | ianw: SpamapS ^ is a pretty bad bug we really should get fixed... | 20:44 |
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| clarkb | SamYaple: I would if I could | 20:52 |
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| SamYaple | its a shame the revert for zerofree happened a few days ago and this didnt merge clarkb | 20:53 |
| SamYaple | i blame that on gerrit | 20:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Hallisey proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Allow the continer job to run again https://review.openstack.org/288915 | 20:56 |
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| greghaynes | hah | 20:59 |
| greghaynes | We are super good about merging reverts. Features, not so much. | 20:59 |
| greghaynes | SamYaple: +Ad | 20:59 |
| SamYaple | greghaynes: in this case it has +2+W but it was based on an older version of the revert patch | 20:59 |
| SamYaple | so it didnt merge | 21:00 |
| greghaynes | ah | 21:00 |
| SamYaple | new gerrit doesnt say "outdated" | 21:00 |
| greghaynes | Yep, I have been bitten by that a few times | 21:00 |
| SamYaple | thanks for the ack | 21:00 |
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| SamYaple | rhallisey: quit working its sunday | 21:04 |
| rhallisey | SamYaple, wha | 21:04 |
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| rhallisey | look who's talking | 21:04 |
| SamYaple | im always here i dont cant | 21:04 |
| rhallisey | :) | 21:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/diskimage-builder: Use fstrim to prep the block device https://review.openstack.org/290944 | 21:42 |
| SamYaple | there clarkb go forth and fstrim | 21:43 |
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| greghaynes | I think we need a release first before nodepool will grab it | 21:50 |
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| mordred | woot | 22:04 |
| mordred | I'm excited about our new smaller images | 22:04 |
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| craige | o/ | 22:17 |
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| ianw | greghaynes: yes, we need a release for centos-minimal too | 22:32 |
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| ianw | greghaynes: however, i would be best if we could get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281596/ in this next release too | 22:33 |
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| ianw | greghaynes: if you want to +2 that, i can babysit it today and get a release out before next build | 22:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Fix heat job definition https://review.openstack.org/292134 | 22:34 |
| ianw | and get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290974/ in so the centos-minimal builds start and we can try it out on RAX | 22:34 |
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