Monday, 2016-02-22

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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-infracloud: Add ability to configure nova quota  https://review.openstack.org/28177000:06
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add hpuseast public certificate to public hiera  https://review.openstack.org/28291000:16
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add definition for controller hpuseast  https://review.openstack.org/26001800:23
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add Infra Cloud compute node definition  https://review.openstack.org/26002201:02
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mordredfungi: ++01:05
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add definition for controller hpuseast  https://review.openstack.org/26001801:16
rcarrillocruzso, on the various clouds, my understanding is that we have two projects: 'openstackci' for long-standing servers, 'openstackjenkins' for nodepool. Working on automating that creation for the infra-cloud i see two options: a) use puppet keystone_tenant resource and put two stanzas for each project on the infra-cloud controllers site.pp: b) create an ansible role to create the projects and a play using that role with the infra-cloud controller01:18
rcarrillocruzi'm thinking b) could be reused for spinning new cloud providers we would get down the road01:19
rcarrillocruzbut a) just does the work for infra-cloud01:19
rcarrillocruzmordred, jeblair: thoughts?01:19
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rcarrillocruzhmm, tho i doubt you get creds to happily create projects on public cloud providers01:23
rcarrillocruzi'll put on puppet for infra-cloud for now01:23
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add experimental-bindep-jobs to other-requirements users  https://review.openstack.org/28288701:24
crinkleI think using puppet to manage users/projects is the right way to go01:24
rcarrillocruzoh crinkle01:25
rcarrillocruzhiya :-)01:25
rcarrillocruzyou already around in Ft Collins01:25
rcarrillocruz?01:25
mordredrcarrillocruz: you can totally create projects in several public openstack clouds01:25
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mordredrcarrillocruz: although that is not a permission that we have in our current public clouds01:26
crinklercarrillocruz: yep! you?01:26
yolandahi mordred, i have a long list of changes tagged infra-cloud, waiting for your love :)01:26
openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add infracloud east to puppetmaster clouds  https://review.openstack.org/28292001:26
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rcarrillocruzcrinkle: yep, arrived ysterday01:26
yolandahi crinkle01:26
mordredcrinkle, rcarrillocruz: I'd actually like to suggest we consider a little bit of a hybrid approach01:27
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add python34 non-voting jobs for tacker projects  https://review.openstack.org/28263401:27
crinkleo/01:27
rcarrillocruzmordred: yeah, my point  about infra getting creds to do so...01:27
mordredrcarrillocruz: that's just because those clouds are needlessly limiting what their end users can do01:27
mordredrcarrillocruz: it's a very normal (or should be) thing for people to be able to create users and projects inside of a domain01:28
mordredas non-admins of the cloud01:28
rcarrillocruznod01:28
rcarrillocruzwhat you mean by hybrid approach mordred01:28
rcarrillocruz?01:28
mordredin any case - I think we have two classes of cloud resources: things that are admin "we run the cloud" resources - and things that are user "we consume the cloud" resources01:28
mordredthe end user resources - like servers and images - are things that we currently manage by hand but are getting closer to managing with ansible01:29
mordredthe admin resources are ones that we manage via puppet because we use puppet to manage the clouds01:29
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mordredSO - there is a good conversation to be had about users/projects - especially since we can actually run our cloud without disabling things in the policy - meaning that we as admins can give us as users a domain-admin acccount that we as users could use to create the openstackci and openstackjenkins projects01:31
mordredbut since none of our other clouds currently give us that ability, it could also be seen as needlessly complex01:31
mordredwhich is to say - I think we should talk about it for real when we're in the room together on wednesday once I get there01:31
yolandamordred, actually for long lived servers we only have rax right now ..01:32
mordredyolanda: that's not true01:32
yolandawe have more_01:32
yolanda?01:32
mordredyolanda: we have long lived servers now in every cloud region01:32
mordredmirrors01:32
rcarrillocruzmirrors afs01:32
rcarrillocruzk01:32
rcarrillocruzso01:32
rcarrillocruzfor now01:32
yolandamm, and we reuse same cloud ? i was checking clouds.yaml and i only saw the ci naming for rax01:32
mordredrcarrillocruz: for now I think crinkle is right and we should manage the users/projects with puppet01:33
rcarrillocruzi'll put down the project creation of the infra-cloud with puppet keystone_tenant01:33
rcarrillocruzwill write ansible role for mirror afs creation01:33
rcarrillocruz++01:33
mordredrcarrillocruz: but I'd like to have a longer conversation about what our non-manual consuption strategy is for cloud resources01:33
mordredrcarrillocruz: since I tink you and I are on the same page that we'd like for those to be driven by ansible - and now that we're on puppet apply that makes way more sense to start poking at01:34
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rcarrillocruzi'm all ears on working on the cloud launcher portion of infra-ansible01:34
rcarrillocruzbeen adding more stuff lately01:34
mordredbut if we have servers done that way, i'd also like to have playbooks for other end-user things we need as consumers - and since we don't have puppet doing things with other consume cloud accounts01:34
rcarrillocruznetwork01:34
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Remove experimental jobs *-with-oslo-master  https://review.openstack.org/28288801:34
rcarrillocruzsubnets01:34
rcarrillocruzkeys01:34
rcarrillocruzetc01:34
mordredI think finding the right balance is necessary01:34
mordredrcarrillocruz: yes. exactly01:35
mordredrcarrillocruz: for instance, we created the users and projects in our bluebox cloud by hand - that's actually really something that shoudl be in a playbook01:35
rcarrillocruzwhich makes me wonder the thought i had the other day about splitting that project and putting the cloud launcher as a separate git project01:35
rcarrillocruzdunno01:35
rcarrillocruzmordred: yeah, that's bad01:35
mordredrcarrillocruz: yup. but also simple enough that solving it so far has not been a priority :)01:36
prometheanfiremordred: mind looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282193/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281960/ :D01:36
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add experimental bindep jobs for manuals  https://review.openstack.org/28285401:36
mordredrcarrillocruz: so let's definitely find time for this conversation on wednesday, yeah?01:36
prometheanfireforget if you are DIB core, seem to remember it01:36
mordredprometheanfire: I do not mind - but I have no useful review powers in that project, so I'm not as helpful as you might want01:36
rcarrillocruz++01:36
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Move Neutron Grenade multi from experimental to check queue  https://review.openstack.org/28242801:38
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Fix rally skip rules  https://review.openstack.org/28166501:41
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prometheanfiremordred: thanks anyway :D01:43
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clarkbinfra sprinters I will provably hit the original pancake house for breakfast at about 7:30am tomorrow morning01:52
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clarkbalso do we need the shuttle if at hilton? looks like a 10-15 minute walk?01:53
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Rename networking-ovn job  https://review.openstack.org/28241202:11
fungisettled into hotel room02:11
fungiclarkb: i hear rumors that while walking distance, not safely walkable (maybe crosses freeway?!?)02:12
openstackgerritMatthew Thode proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: fix building on gentoo hosts  https://review.openstack.org/28219302:12
clarkbyou do have to cross harmony and ziegler but then it looks like pathways02:13
clarkbharmony and ziegler look like marked crosswalks with a light02:13
openstackgerritMatthew Thode proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add Gentoo to the list of supported distributions  https://review.openstack.org/28196002:13
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fungii am not opposed to giving that a shot02:14
fungibut i'm also fond of brisk walks in the morning chill to help wake me up02:14
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prometheanfireianw: thanks :D02:15
clarkbya can decide after pancakes02:15
crinklegoogle streetview makes it look walkable02:18
ianwprometheanfire: before ci gets too far, could you please my nit of Capitalisation of subject02:18
fungiyeah, i think the "3 miles" on the wiki must be inefficient driving distance not sidewalk distance02:18
fungii'm certainly game02:19
prometheanfireon which?02:19
prometheanfireianw: ^02:19
prometheanfirethe fix one methinks02:19
ianwprometheanfire: you change that doesn't start with a capital letter?02:19
openstackgerritMatthew Thode proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Fix building on gentoo hosts  https://review.openstack.org/28219302:20
prometheanfiredone02:20
prometheanfireusing caps and punctuation is hard, I tend to avoid it :P02:20
fungialsospaces02:20
prometheanfireyawhoneedsspaces02:21
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fungiclarkb: wow, that original pancake house really is almost just in the hotel parking lot. good call02:37
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TheloHi all, I am getting some issue with my CI, to do simple it fails to stack because it cannot fulfill one requirements pbr>=1.8 (http://128.199.204.149//$LOG_PATH/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz) When I check the library repository (http://pypi.dfw.openstack.org/simple/pbr/) it shows thant the service is unavailable.02:49
TheloHas anyone faced this? or does anyone know a workaround for this?02:50
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clarkbThelo: that pypi mirror was deleted03:00
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Theloclarkb: So what should I do? Am I the only one to face this problem?03:01
StevenKThelo: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2016-February/003837.html has pointers03:02
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TheloStevenK, clarkb: Got it thanks03:03
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pabelangerrookie mistake, left USB cable at home03:32
nibalizerpabelanger: i have an extra if you are staying in the hilton03:33
pabelangerYup, at hilton gardon03:33
pabelangergarden*03:33
pabelangerheading down to lobby for a bit03:33
nibalizernow? i'll bring you a cable03:33
pabelangerYup03:34
nibalizerkk03:34
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prometheanfireianw: I'll update the commit message to be more clear why I'm using xargs04:06
prometheanfireit's a useful way of removing prefixed spaces is all04:06
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openstackgerritMatthew Thode proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: fix building on gentoo hosts  https://review.openstack.org/28219304:11
openstackgerritMatthew Thode proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add Gentoo to the list of supported distributions  https://review.openstack.org/28196004:11
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prometheanfirealso, I'm not sure where environment.d is documented, but it seems to run outside of chroot04:23
prometheanfireand found the docs, somewhat04:25
openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Allow overwriting destination_prefix for swift  https://review.openstack.org/26211204:28
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openstackgerritMatthew Thode proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: fix building on gentoo hosts  https://review.openstack.org/28219304:44
openstackgerritMatthew Thode proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add Gentoo to the list of supported distributions  https://review.openstack.org/28196004:45
openstackgerritMatthew Thode proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Fix building on gentoo hosts  https://review.openstack.org/28219304:45
openstackgerritMatthew Thode proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Fix building on gentoo hosts  https://review.openstack.org/28219304:49
prometheanfireianw: think that's it, thanks for the review, wouldn't have fixed the actual problem without it :D04:49
openstackgerritMatthew Thode proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add Gentoo to the list of supported distributions  https://review.openstack.org/28196004:50
AJaegerThelo, please do not use our mirrors, they are internal. you can use pypi directly04:50
prometheanfireAJaeger: if they are internal, why can they be accessed publicly (assuming that's what's happening)04:50
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove check-deletions from openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/28109704:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: support 2.0 branch telemetry jobs  https://review.openstack.org/28251104:53
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openstackgerritAngus Lees proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Derive LIBS_FROM_GIT from ZUUL_CHANGES  https://review.openstack.org/28294904:59
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gusI believe that^ "fixes" Depends-On, fwiw.05:02
openstackgerritAngus Lees proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Derive LIBS_FROM_GIT from ZUUL_CHANGES  https://review.openstack.org/28294905:06
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TheloAJaeger: Which ones are your mirrors? you mean those with *openstack.org?05:20
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openstackgerritVictor Morales proposed openstack/requirements: Add schemadisplay-sphinx to global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/28188005:57
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openstackgerritAkihiro Motoki proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Translation job scripts support multiple python modules  https://review.openstack.org/28071105:59
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openstackgerritAkihiro Motoki proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Translation job scripts support multiple python modules  https://review.openstack.org/28071106:00
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openstackgerritQiming Teng proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable translation for senlin  https://review.openstack.org/28295706:03
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ianwprometheanfire: thank you.  that is a fine level of detail for a change.  just a couple of minutes spent getting thoughts together like that can save us all a lot of time in the long run06:25
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints  https://review.openstack.org/28283506:35
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prometheanfireianw: ya, it's more of a bad habbit for me, I need to be knocked back when it happens :P06:38
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prometheanfireit seems that envvars get passed in though, so running outside of the chroot is kinda fine?06:39
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/lodgeit: Fix alert message shown when cookie is removed  https://review.openstack.org/25835906:49
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/lodgeit: Remove unused image file  https://review.openstack.org/25884906:50
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AJaegerThelo: Yes, I mean do not use the openstack.org mirrors, use pypi.python.org instead.06:57
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AJaegerfungi: your change 281430 for swift is running since 55 hours now - currently building gate-swift-pypy-bindep07:24
mikalAre there known issues with jenkins at the moment?07:25
mikalI get changes which fail the gate with failed pep8 runs (for example), where there is no log posted07:25
mikalAn example is http://logs.openstack.org/88/276088/5/check/gate-nova-pep8/245285b/07:25
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AJaegermikal: those are older runs, we believe the issue you see is fixed07:26
mikalAJaeger: that run finished 10 minutes ago07:27
mikalOh wait, no it didn't07:27
AJaegermikal: if you see it on today's runs, please tell me.07:27
mikalWrong day07:27
mikalOk, so a recheck is the way to go?07:27
AJaegermikal: yes, "recheck"07:27
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AJaegerfungi, the manuals bindep jobs work all succeeded. I'm ready to switch - but have one question on how to handle gate-{name}-tox-{envlist}-bindep. We can use manuals as guinea-pig if you like, it's on a smaller scale than all the python jobs. But based on my results, I'm fine going ahead with your change first as well.07:48
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AJaegerjeblair, fungi: hit a git timeout - but this time after cloning from cache with z-c: http://logs.openstack.org/78/282978/1/check/gate-api-site-tox-checkniceness/920e9f9/console.html07:52
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openstackgerritStefan Andres proposed openstack-infra/shade: Fix lookup for network parameter in neutron_available_floating_ips  https://review.openstack.org/28017808:20
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BobBallIn pip, is there a way to blacklist a particular file?  A weird rackspace-novaclient version has been uploaded to pypi for macosx which is failing for me because I'm not using macosx - yet pip will always select it.09:34
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openstackgerritThomas Bechtold proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Add rpm-packaging team meeting  https://review.openstack.org/27995010:30
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openstackgerritThomas Bechtold proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable py/py3 and docs jobs for renderspec  https://review.openstack.org/28303611:03
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Upgrade 'marked' and 'highlightjs' libraries  https://review.openstack.org/28287111:08
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openstackgerritHan Manjong proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add solum-dashboard project in solum job  https://review.openstack.org/28304011:27
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix Ironic stable branches broken by incorrect variable  https://review.openstack.org/28304211:29
dtantsurhey, folks! please check this patch ^^ it fixes ironic stable branches11:29
AJaegerdtantsur: indeed. Sorry for not catching this during review11:31
dtantsurnp, thanks for reviewing11:32
openstackgerritAliaksandr Buhayeu proposed openstack/python-jenkins: Adds possibility to retrieve all jobs from the view specified  https://review.openstack.org/27975011:32
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openstackgerritJoakim Löfgren proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Fix issue with non-ascii characters in get_job_md5  https://review.openstack.org/28305012:00
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jaypipesAJaeger, clarkb, fungi, jeblair, asselin: quick question... when adding a new project to project-config, how do I indicate to import the code from some github repository? or is that no longer something we should indicate?12:35
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openstackgerritJay Pipes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adds vif-plug-hw-veb project  https://review.openstack.org/28306112:38
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openstackgerritStefan Andres proposed openstack-infra/shade: Fix lookup for network parameter in neutron_available_floating_ips  https://review.openstack.org/28017813:02
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anteayajaypipes: use upstream: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/commit/?id=757445e7b6c486c494d3cf9deb8e793dc0aa348e13:10
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anteayajaypipes: it is removed regularly since it is only used on initial project creation13:10
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aspiersI can't find any docs on how to add a <project>-specs repo to a project - am I being dumb?13:21
aspiersor is it the same as adding any other repo? I found https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79363/6 and wondering if that's a decent example to follow13:21
aspiersI only found http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#working-on-specifications-and-blueprints13:21
openstackgerritMauro Rodrigues proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Make TEMPEST_OS_TEST_TIMEOUT configurable  https://review.openstack.org/28307713:21
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aspiersbut that's more from the contributors' perspectives, not the driver's13:22
mordredBobBall: you can say != ... like 'happybase>=0.5,!=0.7'13:23
mordredBobBall: although I'd also suggest that you just use python-novaclient - it works great connecting to rackspace13:23
anteayamorning mordred13:24
mordredmorning anteaya !13:24
anteayayou are up early I see13:24
ZaraHi, could someone help us set up a dev server for storyboard? There are ansible things at https://galaxy.ansible.com/detail#/role/6187 and puppety things at http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard13:24
anteayaZara: thank you13:24
anteayamordred: was thinking a play env for storyboard might not be a bad idea13:24
anteayasorry I didn't think of it last week13:24
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anteayathis is where some helpful British person tells me in detail the benefits of the bus I just missed13:25
mordredanteaya: it probably has a second story13:26
anteayathe bus I just missed?13:26
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mordredanteaya: well, if it's a description of a bus by a british person13:27
anteayaoh yes, it is luxiourious that bus13:27
anteayavery much so13:27
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anteayaon time, plush seats13:27
anteayaexpress to exactly my destination13:27
mordredanteaya: and yes, I am up early - I'm in Vegas but on Dallas itme13:27
anteayawhy are you in vegas?13:27
mordredyou seem to be describing a limo13:27
mordredanteaya: I am here for IBM Interconnect13:27
anteayawere you not aiming for fort collins13:27
anteayaoh13:27
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anteayaI had mistakenly believed you would be attending infra mid-cycle13:28
anteayanot sure where I got that idea then13:28
mordredlater today I will do a panel with Sam Ramji of Cloud Foundry where we will discuss the lovely topic of "are we headed for foundation fatigue"13:28
mordredanteaya: I will be attending the infra mid-cycle13:28
anteayaohhhh13:28
anteayathat sounds like fun13:28
jaypipesanteaya: thx!13:28
mordredI will just not be attending the infra mid-cycle today13:28
anteayajaypipes: welcome13:28
anteayamordred: ah13:28
mordredjaypipes: I would like to veto vif-plug-hw-veb purely because I'm pretty sure that's just a random collection of letters you grouped to be funny13:29
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anteayaha ha ha13:29
jaypipesmordred: :)13:29
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anteayascrabble tile scramble13:29
anteayamordred: have fun with the panel discussion13:31
anteayaI am going to continue to do morning get ready to go outside kind of things13:31
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anteayamoon will be full in about an hour or so13:34
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persiabother.  I'm on the wrong side of the planet to enjoy that properly13:36
openstackgerritJay Pipes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adds vif-plug-hw-veb project  https://review.openstack.org/28306113:37
jaypipesanteaya: done. ^ thx again :)13:37
anteayajaypipes: welcome13:37
anteayapersia: the problems of living on a sphere13:37
anteayaaccording to a prior blog post I wrote on virgo moon phases, I stated at the time I posted that full moon in virgo represents worship through mentoring: http://whitefeatherastrology.com/blog/2012/06/20/virgo-moon-cycle/13:38
anteayano idea why I feel like sharing that today, but there you go13:38
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AJaegeraspiers: it's the same as every other repo, thus documented at http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html - example: Id70ff11894d1ad1d5ed6e0c5abd383e83f28a6e513:44
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AJaegeraspiers: what do you want to add?13:45
aspierswhat you just said13:46
aspierssince it's not obvious, unless you already know13:46
aspiersalso I think it should be mentioned in http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#working-on-specifications-and-blueprints13:46
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AJaegerI don't think it should be mentioned there - complete different audience.13:47
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aspiersit's the same audience surely13:48
aspiersany developer might want to add a -specs repo to the project13:48
aspiersalso that's the only place I could find which explains how -specs repos are used13:49
AJaegernot not any developer should - it's a project decision ;)13:49
aspiersthe decision gets made by the project reviewers13:49
AJaegerone not is enough ;)13:49
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aspiersthat shouldn't mean the project reviewers have to submit the change13:50
aspiersunless there's a risk they could bypass the project core team13:50
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aspierswell, if you think there's a better place to document, please let me know where13:50
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Fix Ironic stable branches broken by incorrect variable  https://review.openstack.org/28304213:50
aspiershttp://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html I guess13:51
aspiersbut that would warrant a new subsection regarding specs IMHO13:51
aspierswhich is fine13:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add solum-dashboard project in solum job  https://review.openstack.org/28304013:51
aspiersbut it's not a *completely* different audience, there's some overlap for sure13:51
aspiersmaintainers are also developers13:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Enable translation for senlin  https://review.openstack.org/28295713:53
fungiaspiers: what would you add differently about specs repositories in that document?13:53
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add broadview-collector project  https://review.openstack.org/28236513:53
fungior are you just wanting a sentence that says "this information also applies to specs repositories, since they are also git repositories"13:53
fungiand then "this information also applies to documentation repositories, since they are also git repositories"13:54
fungiand so on13:54
AJaegermorning fungi! Did you read my comments in the backlog? Swift is now tested for 61 hours in the experimental queue13:54
fungiAJaeger: yep, saw that. will kill that job in a bit13:54
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add Ironic Role to OpenStack-Ansible  https://review.openstack.org/28231413:55
AJaegerfungi, aspiers : Or a sentence in the Creator's Guide: Use this whether you add a complete project or a single new repo to your project - which is there somehow but might be stated differently13:56
fungioh, fun, that job is running over and over, not simply hung13:56
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Make Ironic VM memory and count configurable  https://review.openstack.org/28148413:56
AJaegeraspiers: for me the two pages are: This is for using the setup as is - this is for enhancing it ;)13:56
AJaegerfungi: yeah, testing-pypy-endlessly-as-a-service ;)13:56
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add docs-on-rtfd hook for fuel-noop-fixtures project  https://review.openstack.org/28126613:57
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard: Update User Docs  https://review.openstack.org/28189813:59
aspiersfungi: yes, that would suffice I think. the point is that it's not obvious to outsiders that -specs or -docs repo are *just* git repos13:59
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aspiersfungi, AJaeger: before I was told, I expected there was probably some extra magic14:00
fungiaspiers: seems more appropriate to add to the project-team guide in that case. we want to make fewer "outsiders"14:00
aspiersfungi: fine by me14:00
fungithe project-team guide is for turning outsiders into insiders, and if it doesn't already have sections talking about hos openstack projects maintain documentation, specifications and such in git repositories using the same workflow as other software they develop, then that seems like a good thing to add14:01
aspiersright14:01
fungis/hos/how/14:01
aspiersactually, it seems it's *not* just as simple as adding the repo14:01
aspiersAJaeger quoted https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273830/1 as an example of how to do it, but that only adds the repo to the specs.yaml index14:02
aspiersthe full process also requires creation of the repo14:02
aspiersso now I wonder if the repo creation and adding to specs.yaml can be done at the same time, or does one have to be done before the other?14:02
fungisure, that change is updating the top-level index on the specs.openstack.org site and is not actually necessary for basic specs workflow14:02
aspiersthat's the kind of detail which is worth having documented14:03
aspiersI'd imagine there's some equivalent magic for docs.openstack.org too?14:03
fungithere's equivalent magic for everything in the openstack community. those are relatively small examples honestly. they could probably stand to be documented somewhere, but as tome point we're likely to collapse under the weight of our workflow documentation14:04
aspiersif they were added in the same review, maybe that would open a race window during which the repo is not yet created and specs.openstack.org contains a broken link?14:04
fungis/tome/some/14:04
aspiershaha :)14:04
aspierswell I'm happy to take a stab at documenting these in project-team-guide. I imagine it would be a very small change14:05
fungiand yeah, generally updating the index before you have a usable specs repo is probaly going to cause there to be a broken link, though i don't know that's particularly problematic14:05
aspiersright14:06
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fungiproject-team guide is probably the place to say that documentation and specifications are maintained in git repositories, but the infra manual is probably the place to have the actual implementation details documented14:06
aspiersI'll submit an extra sentence or two - I guesss http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/open-development.html#specifications is the right section?14:06
aspiersoh OK14:06
aspiersthanks!14:06
fungilooks like a great location to me14:06
aspiersI'll do something for infra-manual too then14:07
fungithanks!14:07
aspiersand then people are welcome to shoot my reviews down in flames ;-) thanks for the advice!14:07
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fungiclarkb: i should be heading out in ~15 minutes if you're still shooting for 7:30 pancakes14:09
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clarkbfungi: I am meet in the lobby in ~10 minuyes?14:15
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openstackgerritVolodymyr Samotiy proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add broadview-ui project  https://review.openstack.org/28310114:18
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clarkbpancakes closed on monday14:26
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jeblairdoh14:28
Clintthose are some irresponsible pancakes14:28
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crinkleclarkb: aw so no pancakes?14:31
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AJaegeraspiers: sorry, gave you wrong link - let me find a better example...14:33
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AJaegeraspiers: Ic93bd186ca05b66c53dbd075ba9805d3a34381ac is a real example ;)14:34
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openstackgerritAnne Gentle proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Changes odd-weeks doc team meeting to 2000 Wednesday  https://review.openstack.org/27136114:50
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openstackgerritsebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid: Fix on missing getDisplay Method  https://review.openstack.org/28311114:52
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openstackgerritAnne Gentle proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Changes odd-weeks doc team meeting to 1900 Wednesday  https://review.openstack.org/27136114:57
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anteayapleia2 and I are at the office and have found the meeting room15:02
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openstackgerritAliaksandr Buhayeu proposed openstack/python-jenkins: Adds possibility to retrieve all jobs from the view specified  https://review.openstack.org/27975015:04
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/openstackid: Fix on missing getDisplay Method  https://review.openstack.org/28311115:05
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openstackgerritsebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid-resources: Fixed SSL redirect filter  https://review.openstack.org/28312115:15
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pleia2coffee is being set up :)15:17
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anteayapleia2: yay coffee!15:18
Bobbamordred: Thanks.  I actually meant that I'm using pyrax which has their own dependency on rackspace-novaclient.  I'm working on removing pyrax entirely, but in the meantime I couldn't install it because it was picking up the macosx rackspace-novaclient.15:18
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Bobbamordred: I wanted a way to blacklist that specific version globally, but realised that if I just install a specific vn of rackspace-novaclient in my venv then the pip install of pyrax won't try and upgrade it to the broken macosx one15:18
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anteayaBobba: I'm seeing the results of your typing but all I can think is "Fett"15:19
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/openstackid-resources: Fixed SSL redirect filter  https://review.openstack.org/28312115:20
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anteayapleia2: Clint is here15:25
pleia2anteaya: if his badge working he can make his way back :)15:25
anteayaI don't know that he knows where to go15:26
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clarkbpleia2: I think a group of us may attempt walking over, is there a specific place we should be heading?15:27
clarkbmaybe that is on yhe wiki and I just meed to read better15:27
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pleia2clarkb: the building has the address on it, 3404 E Harmony Road (I dont' think it says "building 6"15:28
pleia2clarkb: so you can get there, and if an HPE person is with you they can get through security (otherwise they'll call me to collect people)15:28
fungiyeah, it looks like we may have a contingent of ~9 going to give it a go on foot15:28
fungiseveral are hpe people15:28
pleia2I got all the HPE people's badges added for this office last week15:28
pleia2mine worked, so woo15:28
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pleia2good luck with the walking :)15:29
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fungicrinkle didn't bring her badge, rcarrillocruz says he hasn't used his in like 5 years so has no idea if it works...15:29
anteayado folks see a red pin on this map? https://www.google.com/maps/dir/40.5262503,-105.01303/40.5259873,-105.0123112/@40.5260739,-105.0125137,19z15:30
anteayaif yes aim for the red pin15:30
anteayait says 6 Technology parkway, I don't know why it says that15:31
pleia2well, security has my phone number if folks can't get in15:32
pleia2anteaya: did Clint get lost? :)15:32
anteayayes he did15:32
anteayabut he found me eventually15:33
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pleia2anteaya: oh, is he still in the lobby there?15:33
anteayayes15:33
pleia2he should come back here :)15:33
anteayasitting with me15:33
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anteayaI'm telling him you would like him15:34
anteayahe is on his way15:34
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aspiersAJaeger: yeah but that doesn't update specs.yaml :)15:35
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anteayaokay so the third party meeting is over now15:39
anteayaI have a car that can fit 4 additional people as well as myself15:39
anteayashould I strike out and pick folks up?15:39
anteayaclarkb fungi?15:39
AJaegeraspiers: do the specs.yaml as an update once you have content ;)15:39
aspiersAJaeger: I know; that's what I plan to document15:40
AJaegerthanks, aspiers15:40
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matrohonhi all15:42
pleia2anteaya: thanks, accounted for :)15:42
matrohonI wanted to use a post-extra hook in our devstack plugin, I never get a post-extra call from devstack15:42
matrohondoes anyone use this kind of hook in devstack?15:43
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anteayapleia2: great15:44
AJaegermatrohon: check project-config repo, directory jenkins/jobs - I didn't find a usage quickly but I'm not sure whether my regex was correct15:45
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matrohonAJaeger, I'll do thanks15:46
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smarcetfungi: morning, hope u are doing ok15:47
smarcetfungi: any change to get the openstackid production instance logs from path app/storage/log15:48
smarcetfungi: i am getting a 500 error on an page at the openstackid admin :)15:49
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pleia2anteaya plans on coming out into the lot to meet people and help find the way15:50
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openstackgerritJay Pipes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adds vif-plug-hw-veb project  https://review.openstack.org/28306115:56
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max_loburHi All, I'm from bareon project, we're working on the functional testing for bareon CI https://blueprints.launchpad.net/bareon/+spec/bareon-functional-testing. To validate some of the cases we use a number of disk images (so-called golden images). Currently they are about 6Gb in total (3 image files). Once we start putting this to infra, is there a place to store such kind of data?15:57
max_loburI don't expect these images to grow, most likely we'll even shrink them to 2-3Gb15:57
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max_loburWe basically need a space accessible from CI, to pull them in during test run. Or should we just put them to some external resource?16:00
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openstackgerritVictor Morales proposed openstack/requirements: Add schemadisplay-sphinx to global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/28188016:03
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openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Redirect undercloud install output to file  https://review.openstack.org/28253116:08
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openstackgerritJohn L. Villalovos proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Send DEVSTACK_GATE_TEMPEST_REGEX to grenade jobs  https://review.openstack.org/24104416:10
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anteayahttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-infra-midcycle16:17
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fungithanks anteay!16:19
fungianteaya16:19
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anteayahttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/VirtualSprints#Infra-Cloud_Sprint_Face_to_Face_Event16:26
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matjazphi all16:48
matjazpI have a question about https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-training-guides/+bug/152357016:48
openstackLaunchpad bug 1523570 in OpenStack Training Guides "Bug external references in commit message is not working to reflect launchpad status" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:48
med_sprint is ON!16:48
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clarkbbtw no tenant specified errors on rax uploads and image builds seem to have failed16:50
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clarkblooks like images failed on new projects not having repos configured in the mirror yet16:51
clarkbso racing new project creation16:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/diskimage-builder: Revert "Correct rhel-common for rhel6"  https://review.openstack.org/28155116:57
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AJaegermatjazp: what's the question?16:58
matjazpAJaeger: why does it not work - status of the bugs are not automatically set16:59
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AJaegermatjazp: show me a recent review, please16:59
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AJaegerwait, I have an idea...17:00
matjazpAJaeger: I don't remember if anything was changed in the mean time on the infra side?17:00
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matjazpI searched for a place where to register a bug queue17:00
AJaegermatjazp: project-config file gerrit/projects.yaml - see http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html#add-the-project-to-the-master-projects-list17:01
AJaegersecond note to step 317:01
AJaegeryou needs to add "groups"17:01
matjazpaha, ok thanks17:02
AJaegermatjazp: probably also for training-labs - or what is their bug queue?17:02
matjazphmmm.. something shorterlabs"17:02
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AJaegermatjazp: let's ask dguitarbite, whether it's correct17:04
med_pleia2, crinkle, yolanda, et al at Infra sprint, there is also an OpenStack Meetup in Louisville Colorado about Containers for those with nothing better today on a night after sprinting for four days. Details here:  http://www.meetup.com/OpenStack-Colorado/events/228594900/17:05
matjazpAJaeger: its /labs17:06
matjazphttps://launchpad.net/labs17:07
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/puppet-infracloud: Use example.com for admin user  https://review.openstack.org/28316917:07
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update constraints for cliff 2.0.0  https://review.openstack.org/28317317:09
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update oslo constraints for releases Feb 22  https://review.openstack.org/28317417:13
kozhukalovguys, please review this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/279074/17:14
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-infracloud: Parameterize entries for neutron subnet  https://review.openstack.org/26690217:25
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openstackgerritZara proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Group Tasks By Status  https://review.openstack.org/28318317:33
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/requirements: Adds PyMI as a global-requirement  https://review.openstack.org/27912217:42
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AJaegermatjazp: will you send a patch?17:50
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elmikohey all, do i need to make a bug before suggesting a patch to irc-meetings? (i forget)17:51
AJaegerelmiko: just send a change17:53
elmikoAJaeger: ack, thanks17:53
openstackgerritMichael McCune proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: add agenda url to api-wg entry  https://review.openstack.org/28319117:53
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tmcpeakhey all, Bandit has docs that we'd like to have hosted somewhere, are there any appropriate infra related places to put them?17:56
AJaegerfungi, regarding bindep and manuals: Is this something you like to see moving forward this week or better postpone because of the sprint?17:56
AJaegertmcpeak: bandit is an official project, isn't it?17:56
tmcpeakalso we'd like to have them automatically updated whenever the docs change, so we'd probably need to have some magic in the gate that updates them17:56
tmcpeakAJaeger: yep17:56
AJaegerthen docs.openstack.org/developer/bandit is your new home ;)17:56
tmcpeakAJaeger: sweet!17:57
tmcpeakhow do we access that?17:57
AJaegertmcpeak: it even exists already ;)17:57
AJaegertmcpeak: so, what's your problem? ;)17:57
tmcpeakhaha17:57
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tmcpeakI guess I didn't know anything about this17:57
tmcpeakit looks… old17:57
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AJaegertmcpeak: you use in zuul/layout.yaml "openstack-server-publish-jobs" template17:57
tmcpeakso how do I get new stuff here? can I scp something somewhere?17:57
AJaegerand dthat publishes after each commit17:58
AJaegerWe run "python setup.py build_sphinx" and publish doc/build/html17:58
tmcpeakAJaeger: awesome! somehow I figured you would all have something awesome set up already17:58
AJaegertmcpeak: whoever setup bandit did that ;)17:58
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tmcpeakit's lost to history.. ok this is perfect, thank you17:58
openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/git-review: Allow git review to set votes  https://review.openstack.org/28150417:58
AJaegertmcpeak: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-projects.html does not include bandit17:59
AJaegertmcpeak: you should add - send a patch for openstack-manuals/www/developer/openstack-projects.html17:59
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tmcpeakok cool18:00
tmcpeakwill do18:00
tmcpeakAJaeger: thanks!18:00
matjazpAJaeger: yes, thanks for the tip18:00
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openstackgerritMark Vanderwiel proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add linting to app-catalog-ui  https://review.openstack.org/28320218:20
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openstackgerritJay Pipes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adds vif-plug-hw-veb project  https://review.openstack.org/28306118:23
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openstackgerritMark Vanderwiel proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add linting to app-catalog-ui  https://review.openstack.org/28320218:24
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AJaegerjaypipes: I meant jenkins/jobs/projects.yaml18:25
openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/git-review: Fix Gerrit test site generation  https://review.openstack.org/28251518:25
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openstackgerritJay Pipes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adds vif-plug-hw-veb project  https://review.openstack.org/28306118:27
jaypipesAJaeger: done.18:27
AJaegerjaypipes: will this be part of nova team?18:27
openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/git-review: Fix Gerrit test site generation  https://review.openstack.org/28251518:28
AJaegersdague: what about merging your nova constraints job now? I think everything is fine now, isn't it?18:28
fungiAJaeger: my reviewing this week for non-urgent work is likely to end up being intentionally limited to infra-cloud due to the sprint18:29
AJaegerfungi: Ok, then let's discuss bindep next week - just wanted to know how urgent it's for you...18:30
sdaguejaypipes: I thought we'd agreed at nova midcycle to keep everything in os-vif for now?18:30
sdagueAJaeger: probably, do we have new runs on it18:30
AJaegersdague: I just "recheck"ed your change18:30
openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/git-review: Fix Gerrit test site generation  https://review.openstack.org/28251518:31
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AJaegerBut with the zuul-cloner change in, we should be back to normal18:31
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sdagueAJaeger: ok, cool. What was the final resolution on the zuul-cloner issue?18:31
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jaypipessdague: only the reference implementations (linux bridge and OVS)18:32
rm_workDoes anyone know if Octavia got added back to the auto-requirements updater?18:32
rm_workI forget where that lives18:32
AJaegersdague: bug in zuul-cloner: It basically ignored the local cache18:32
AJaegerrm_work: requirements repo, file projects.txt18:32
rm_workkk i'll check there thanks18:32
rm_worklooks like no T_T18:33
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AJaegersdague: I've still seen one timeout today - but that came from normal git, so completely unrelated18:33
rm_worktime to dig up the patch that adds it back18:33
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fungiAJaeger: sdague: well, that was making the situation worse but wasn't the underlying cause (which still seems to be some network instability, as evidenced by regular git also occasionally hitting this too)18:33
openstackgerritMark Vanderwiel proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add linting to app-catalog-ui  https://review.openstack.org/28320218:33
sdaguejaypipes: oh, right, ok18:34
rm_workif I just recheck https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276802/ will Jenkins passing mean that it's ready?18:34
AJaegersdague: but with using the local cache, we avoid most of these network problems18:34
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AJaegersdague, jaypipes: So, is this repo part of nova project? Then let's addd a governance change as well, please18:35
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jaypipesAJaeger: I've been shying away from the governance stuff. I don't see it as necessary for all these plugins.18:36
openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/git-review: Fix Gerrit test site generation  https://review.openstack.org/28251518:36
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zaroclarkb: hey, it's been about a week since Gerrit restart. thought we could check on it's GC performance?18:37
AJaegerjaypipes: It's the same time working on it as the other repo, so why not add it?18:38
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AJaegerjaypipes: discuss it with johnthetubaguy ...18:39
AJaegerjaypipes: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/vif-plug-hw-veb does not exist18:39
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jaypipesAJaeger: does it need to for this change to go through?18:41
jaypipesneither does os-vif, AFAIK.18:41
AJaegerjaypipes: pypi: Yes18:41
jaypipesguh, ok, one sec.18:41
clarkbzaro: max mem is 12GB mean is 8GB18:41
AJaegerjaypipes: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/projects.yaml#n244818:41
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clarkbzaro: no measurable excess of GC time18:42
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Use 'Tasks' Icon for Tasks  https://review.openstack.org/27513018:42
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jaypipesAJaeger: The Nova team is not going to vouch for the quality of each and every VIF plugin. This is the same problem that the Neutron folks ran into with their Neutron stadium. I don't want to add a boatload of VIF plugin repos to the Nova project team when the Nova core team isn't going to be responsible for their quality. It's the same argument that armax has been making about Neutron ML2 plugins.18:44
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AJaegerjaypipes: the change can go in without governance for sure - you're not using any of the resources that are there only for official projects.18:46
anteayaI feel we are running into problems when someone not associated with the code of the project is creating the project18:46
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AJaegerjaypipes: what makes me double check is that you share the team with os-vif - so for such a close relationship, it looks strange. But if that's what nova wants18:46
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armaxjaypipes: then you should express your opinion on some of the patches that are flying out in neutron-land right now18:51
armax:)18:51
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jaypipesomg I fucking hate pypi.18:52
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jaypipesarmax: yes yes, will get to that as soon as I figure out how to ask pypi what my friggin username is.18:52
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AJaegerarmax: are the projects moving out of the stadium aware that they can apply as independent projects?18:54
mordredjaypipes: I usually do that by hitting things with a hammer18:54
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mordredjaypipes: (check to see if you have a ~/.pypirc lying aroud)18:54
armaxAJaeger: :)18:54
armaxAJaeger: I suppose they must be18:54
jaypipesWhy does PyPI say "Lost login?" when it actually means "Don't remember your login? Don't worry, we'll ask you for your login name anyway that you don't know?"18:54
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zaroclarkb: sounds good.18:55
jaypipesAlso, logged in with Google successfully, and PyPI still says "Not logged in". awesome.18:55
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openstackgerritVladimir Kozhukalov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add fuel-virtualbox project  https://review.openstack.org/27907419:04
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phschwartzIs there a command from the openstack cli client to see what network ip pool is in associated with a network?19:11
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dstufftjaypipes: there is a reason warehouse is a thing19:12
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dstufftjaypipes: what's your email address19:12
mordredphschwartz: so - a) not best channel for that - however, b) openstackclient is just now growing good neutron support, so I recommend using the neutron cli for now19:13
jaypipesdstufft: warehouse? any way my email is jaypipes@gmail.com. thanks in advance for any assistance, much appreciated.19:13
mordredphschwartz: the terms you're looking for are "what subnets are associated with a network"19:13
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dstufftjaypipes: Warehouse == my goinging effort to rewrite PyPI so that it isn't a complete mess of code written back when the only real web framework was zope19:14
phschwartzmordred: that is it, and I have gotten no responses from the neutron channel :(19:14
dstufftongoing*19:14
mordredphschwartz: "neutron --os-cloud=vexxhost net-list" for me shows me the network and its subnets19:14
mordredphschwartz: neutron are at the neutron mid-cycle this week19:14
mordredphschwartz: http://paste.openstack.org/show/487797 is th eoutput of neutron net-list19:14
phschwartzmordred: that explains the silence :)19:14
jaypipesdstufft: I see. cool :) how can I help?19:14
mordredphschwartz: each of the subnets can be looked at with subnet-show19:15
mordredphschwartz: so, for instance:19:15
phschwartzI was using the openstack client directly. Let me use the neutron client :)19:15
mordredneutron --os-cloud=vexxhost subnet-show 636c3e9b-5988-4cca-8474-1b20411e377f19:15
mordredhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/48779819:15
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mordredphschwartz: neutron support in osc is young - it'll be solid in a few months19:15
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dstufftjaypipes: Jay.Pipes19:16
dstufftjaypipes: github.com/pypa/warehouse (currently deployed to warehouse.python.org, but will move to pypi.python.org once it's a suitable replacement)19:16
jaypipesdstufft: gah! I always forget the darn dot.19:17
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jaypipesdstufft: thank you thank you sir.19:17
dstufftjaypipes: no problem!19:17
mordreddstufft: should I point my pip.conf at warehouse to help test it?19:17
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jaypipesdstufft: warehouse.python.org looks fantastic. will check out the source when I find some free time.19:19
dstufftmordred: it wouldn't hurt! The one major thing about doing that, is an upload to PyPI doesn't purge warehouse (they are two seperate things as far as Fastly is concerned) so you have to wait for stuff to fall out of the cache naturally (up to 10 minutes)19:19
phschwartzmordred: that helped ty :)19:19
mordredphschwartz: woot!19:19
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mordreddstufft: k. that should likely not hurt me personally on my laptop19:21
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dstufftI've started to upload things to warehouse instead of to PyPI (they share a DB), just because warehouse is better about not allowing incomplete uploads19:22
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mordreddstufft: neat. so - I've got it in my pip.conf now19:26
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: update oslo constraints for releases Feb 22  https://review.openstack.org/28317419:44
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openstackgerritVladimir Kozhukalov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add fuel-virtualbox project  https://review.openstack.org/27907419:55
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openstackgerritMaksim Malchuk proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add fuel-virtualbox project  https://review.openstack.org/27907419:55
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openstackgerritRicardo Carrillo Cruz proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Create openstack-infra projects  https://review.openstack.org/28322919:59
openstackgerritRicardo Carrillo Cruz proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Create openstack-infra projects in infracloud  https://review.openstack.org/28322920:01
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jheskethMorning20:06
AJaegermorning, jhesketh !20:07
jheskethHow's the mid-cycle going?20:07
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clarkbit is going, getting a run down of how things fit together20:08
clarkbalso using the sprint channel for some things there is also an asterisk channel you can dial into if interested in listening in20:08
clarkblet me find the channel number20:08
jheskethCan't dial in at the moment sorry (at the hospital)20:09
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clarkboh no worries then (do what you need to do)20:09
jheskethDarn a run down would have been helpful. Are there notes per chance?20:09
pleia2jhesketh: yeah, stashing a bunch in the etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-infra-midcycle20:09
clarkbjhesketh: yup there ^20:09
jheskethPerfect, thanks!20:10
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openstackgerritsebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid: Fix memory leak on scopes groups  https://review.openstack.org/28324020:14
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add fuel-virtualbox project  https://review.openstack.org/27907420:17
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/openstackid: Fix memory leak on scopes groups  https://review.openstack.org/28324020:21
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openstackgerritMark Vanderwiel proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add linting to app-catalog-ui  https://review.openstack.org/28320220:34
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fungijhesketh: also some details are leaking into the #openstack-sprint channel20:41
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jheskethfungi: yep keeping an eye on that channel too20:47
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openstackgerritsebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/system-config: OpenstackId Release 1.0.10  https://review.openstack.org/28325220:48
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for heat neutron tests failure bug 1547261  https://review.openstack.org/28325420:57
openstackbug 1547261 in heat "Tempest heat tests- test_neutron_resources fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154726120:57
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Add rpm-packaging team meeting  https://review.openstack.org/27995021:03
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kozhukalovguys, could you please add me (Vladimir Kozhukalovvkozhukalov@mirantis.com) to the group fuel-virtualbox-core https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/1299,members21:04
kozhukalovI am an author of the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/279074/21:05
kozhukalovThanks in advance21:06
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ianwclarkb: would i be hearing anything on the bridge about now?  it's hard to tell the difference between not working and just silent :)21:15
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clarkbianw: you should be hearing stuff21:17
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clarkbjeblair is investigating21:17
jeblairianw: oh, sorry, the network here keeps disconnecting21:18
jeblairianw: one thing we have learned is that we need a daemon to keep reconnecting21:18
jeblairianw: should be back on now21:18
ianwjeblair: cool, i can hear!21:18
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jeblairianw: let me know how it works -- i'm alpha testing an audio pipeline21:19
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jeblairianw: also, we have a speaker here, so if you feel like saying something, we might be able to hear you21:19
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ianwjeblair: cool ... there's a bit of background fuzz, might just be the gain required to capture voices.  understandable though21:22
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jeblairianw: yeah, i'm going for constant level to try to pick up people across the room.  also there is a noisy switch.21:24
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fungior perhaps a switch with a fan with noisy bearings21:25
fungialso that was a marvellous sound21:25
ianwwhatever you just did, it's much better now21:25
jeblairianw: i moved the switch to the floor21:25
bkerofungi: "custom asus" doesn't come with a custom fan with bad bearings? :)21:25
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fungithat burned out long ago21:25
jeblairianw: did you change anything on your side?  maybe switch to speakerphone or unmute or something?21:26
jeblairianw: we just got a feedback loop21:26
ianwjeblair: ah, yes just a minute ago i reconnected, as i had started the app in a terminal i acidentally killed21:27
fungibkero: that custom asus was nibalizer assuming i had something custom when he wrote the list while i was out of the room on a break, but is really just a beat-up old asus 701 4g model21:27
ianwso it probably went unmute21:27
ianwmaybe it was just the reconnection21:27
bkeroOh wow21:27
ianwthat fixed the bg21:27
bkeroThat's pretty old, haha21:27
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fungi"beat-up" is also an understatement21:28
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fungiit's just shy of needing duct tape to hold it together21:28
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: update constraints for cliff 2.0.0  https://review.openstack.org/28317321:29
bkeroYou must have a particular affinity for the little thing.21:29
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ianwjeblair: i think it died, i got a sad boop-boop21:34
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fungibkero: i've had a number of false starts trying to get decent kernel support for high-density backlit panels attached to an sbc, and am having trouble sourcing a good mini-keyboard that's still mostly usable for building one from parts21:34
fungiso laziness along with a slight guilty feeling over replacing this with an off-the-shelf purchase have left me using it longer than intended21:35
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bkerofungi: There are some old-style Thinkpad keyboard/trackpoints that were sold as external USB devices. Most homebuilt laptops use this.21:37
bkeroThe ribbon cables on laptop keyboards are usually actual matrix traces from it, which are dealt with a controller on the mobo. Rewriting the keymap EEPROM is probably not worth it. >_>21:38
bkerosomething like http://www.amazon.com/Original-Sk-8845-Keyboard-integrated-Pointing/dp/B013HNOA6G/21:38
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fungibkero: still pretty huge21:39
bkeroyeah, not really usable for < 12"21:39
fungii'm looking for like a 7" wide keyboard21:39
bkeroJorno?21:39
fungithere are a few the right size on the market (i've bought several to try out), but just about all are bluetooth instead of direct and incorporate batteries, charger, et cetera21:40
fungiso it's a question of how much i want to have to (or even can) modify some of those to drop unnecessary weight and power waste21:40
bkeroI bet some of them work over USB though. So you could just not use the bluetooth bits.21:41
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bkeroYou'd still have the weight, but maybe not the power.21:41
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jeblairianw: oh sorry21:42
fungiright, the ones i've tested so far have a usb port for charging but don't present as an input device over usb21:42
jeblairianw: hrm, it thinks it is still connected21:42
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fungibkero: alternative there is that i do have a design for a one-handed chording keyboard i use for wearable purposes, so might just build myself a "tablet" (sbc plus display panel) and use the chorder with it21:44
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bkerofungi: Hah, we seem to have some stuff in common. :) I'm using a Twiddler3 for my wearables.21:44
bkeroI've been bad about the training though >_>21:45
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fungii've published a gplv2 pcb layout and parts manifest for the spiffchorder21:46
fungiand wire it up with cherry mx mechanical switches, because i like the tactile feedback21:46
bkeronice21:47
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bkeroI've been toying with the idea of replacing a laptop keyboard scissorswitches with cherry MLs. They don't add much height.21:47
jeblairianw: is it back?21:47
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fungibkero: http://www.yuggoth.org/wiki/ManMachine/KeyerPCB21:49
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fungibkero: though that's a dev board (so with screw terminals, programmer header, socketed controller, et cetera), i'm working on a scaled down/minimal one for my bext rev21:50
bkeroI like the terminal blocks, haha21:50
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fungis/bext/next/21:50
bkeroYeah, that's what/ A ST32?21:51
bkeroAh, 32u421:51
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bkeroYeah, you can probably get that pretty small by using a non-socketed AVR, a plug instead of terminal blocks, and surface-mount caps21:51
bkerofungi: You should bring it to the summit if you get it done in time.21:52
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fungiyep, and i'll leave off the programmer header as well, also some of the lines are unnecessary for a 7-key system, as are a bunch of the led lines21:55
fungii also had to use some passthroughs which i can likely reroute to avoid in that design21:56
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fungiand in dropping those lines i can also go with a smaller resistor array21:57
bkeroHave fun laying out new board :)21:58
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fungii like playing with autorouters and then fixing their poor choices. it satisfies my ocd urges22:04
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fungialso it makes me feel smarter than the computer. i need that sort of reassurance from time to time ;)22:05
bkeroI like to torture them by telling them to do 1-layer designs22:05
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bkeroYou have human skills! Haha22:05
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ianwjeblair: ahh, no22:12
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: OpenstackId Release 1.0.10  https://review.openstack.org/28325222:16
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openstackgerritJamie Lennox proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Run the identity v3 only job in additional services  https://review.openstack.org/27112822:32
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Use Ironic as Devstack plugin in Rally gates  https://review.openstack.org/27482422:40
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openstackgerritPaul Van Eck proposed openstack-infra/puppet-refstack: Make puppet pull releases from Pypi  https://review.openstack.org/28173722:46
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Enable py/py3 and docs jobs for renderspec  https://review.openstack.org/28303622:50
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-infracloud: add ability to configure network quota  https://review.openstack.org/28330423:29
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openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Use omfracloud in nodepool  https://review.openstack.org/27549123:35
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openstackgerritPaul Van Eck proposed openstack-infra/puppet-refstack: Make puppet pull releases from Pypi  https://review.openstack.org/28173723:38
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openstackgerritFabio Giannetti proposed openstack/requirements: Add python-monascaclient to the global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/25167423:45
openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add the ability to configure neutron quota using hiera  https://review.openstack.org/28330723:45
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Create openstack-infra projects in infracloud  https://review.openstack.org/28322923:50
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create nodepool-infracloud for grafana.o.o  https://review.openstack.org/28331223:56
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create nodepool-infracloud for grafana.o.o  https://review.openstack.org/28331223:58
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