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| mtreinish | nibalizer: ok, yeah so it's not that | 00:00 |
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| ianw | pabelanger: ok, http://nodepool.openstack.org/dib.fedora-22.log seems fine ... need to add that to the monitoring list | 00:02 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: I'm at a loss for why the console_script would be created, but not the wsgi_script | 00:02 |
| nibalizer | with pip 7.1.2 (in a new venv, on my laptop) i can reprroduce the wsgi script not showing up | 00:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Normalize user information https://review.openstack.org/237774 | 00:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-grafyaml: Switch to puppet-git_resource https://review.openstack.org/237819 | 00:04 |
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| nibalizer | mtreinish: if 'console_script' is supposed to be in the bin directory of the venv, it is not | 00:04 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: openstack-health-api is the console_script | 00:05 |
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| nibalizer | ah | 00:05 |
| mtreinish | it's the entrypoint type for pbr | 00:05 |
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| pabelanger | ianw: Ya, I think we need somebody to look at zuul.log | 00:05 |
| mtreinish | it's literaly like the same code path for either, with just a different template | 00:05 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-dev/pbr/tree/pbr/packaging.py#n301 | 00:05 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: this is weird, I just did the fresh venv test locally and it didn't work either | 00:06 |
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| nibalizer | mtreinish: i have two virtualenvs on my laptop, with pip 7.0.1 I get the openstack-health script, with pip 7.1.2 I do not | 00:07 |
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| nibalizer | mtreinish: :shrug: Im no expert | 00:08 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: both of my venvs were the same version of everything | 00:08 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: ok I have a workaround install it in editable mode | 00:08 |
| mtreinish | no clue why it works | 00:09 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: in the venv do pip uninstall openstack-health && pip install -e $path_to_openstack-health_repo | 00:09 |
| mtreinish | I'm gonna push a puppet change to do that | 00:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Set cache information from clouds.yaml https://review.openstack.org/237050 | 00:11 |
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| nibalizer | mtreinish: ok | 00:11 |
| ianw | pabelanger / fungi / clarkb : my guess is that nodepool has failed in bringing some f22 nodes online, but i don't think we can see that without logs | 00:12 |
| nibalizer | mtreinish: hey! http://health.openstack.org/tests nice job | 00:13 |
| nibalizer | we should put some kind of a check on the install exec anyways | 00:13 |
| pabelanger | ianw: Ya, that is what I think too | 00:14 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: \o/ awesome | 00:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Revert "Make gate-tempest-dsvm-networking-ovn voting" https://review.openstack.org/237821 | 00:14 |
| pabelanger | ianw: statsd should show something | 00:14 |
| nibalizer | probably refreshonly => true + subscribe => Vcsrepo[$source_dir], | 00:14 |
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| russellb | project-config-core members would be my best friends if that ^^^ could get merged quickly <3 | 00:14 |
| pabelanger | looks like next grafana dashboard | 00:14 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: I need your advice | 00:14 |
| pabelanger | russellb: GET IN LINE YOU | 00:15 |
| russellb | :) | 00:15 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: I am hoping you can help me here | 00:15 |
| * russellb offers bribes | 00:15 | |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Install openstack-health in editable mode https://review.openstack.org/237822 | 00:15 |
| * aspiers offers a bigger bribe for his review | 00:15 | |
| pabelanger | anteaya: woah, that might be scary :) But I'll do my best | 00:15 |
| nibalizer | mtreinish: big hi5 | 00:15 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: I'm tired I've had a long day, as I am sure has everyone else in channel | 00:15 |
| pabelanger | also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237819 converts to puppet-git_resource | 00:15 |
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| anteaya | pabelanger: I come back from my walk read some backscroll check my email | 00:15 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: I owe you an asahi super dry extra cold in tokyo | 00:15 |
| nibalizer | mtreinish: ill relieve you of your debt if you do the changes I put on the review | 00:16 |
| pabelanger | anteaya: sure, what can I do | 00:16 |
| nibalizer | nto really part of this change | 00:16 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: see that you have decided to use curse words to express your frustration earlier, I'm turned off by that, decide to just not do anymore work tonight | 00:16 |
| nibalizer | but makes me a happy puppeteer | 00:16 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: I check my email, find that yet another person can't read instructions | 00:16 |
| aspiers | is README.md frowned upon for OpenStack repos? (as opposed to README.rst which is mentioned in http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html) | 00:16 |
| anteaya | and we have to revert their stack forge retirement | 00:16 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: sure, one sec | 00:17 |
| anteaya | and they decided to email me and monty personally | 00:17 |
| mordred | aspiers: we're generally an RST set of people | 00:17 |
| mordred | aspiers: since the sphinx docs ar erst | 00:17 |
| anteaya | and their email to the infra list appareently didn't take | 00:17 |
| pabelanger | anteaya: what did I say? | 00:17 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: it is in the backscroll, I'm not interested in repeating it | 00:17 |
| anteaya | it seems I"m the only person who cares | 00:17 |
| mordred | aspiers: there is a pattern several projects have picked up of including their README.rst in their sphinx docs with symlinks as well | 00:17 |
| anteaya | so if I am odd person out that is fine | 00:17 |
| anteaya | I can just log off | 00:18 |
| anteaya | excpet this poor person who can't read instruction now has a retired repo | 00:18 |
| anteaya | that they want reinstanted | 00:18 |
| aspiers | mordred: thanks, suspected so. I'll convert this project's README.md into README.rst (I guess it makes sense even though the project has no Python / sphinx) | 00:18 |
| anteaya | and I'm the only one I know at present prepared to do anything about it | 00:18 |
| * anteaya makes a cup of tea | 00:18 | |
| mordred | aspiers: it's not a hard/fast rule or anything, there are md files in places | 00:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Install openstack-health in editable mode https://review.openstack.org/237822 | 00:18 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: ^^^ | 00:18 |
| nibalizer | anteaya: I can take the baton if you like | 00:19 |
| nibalizer | is this person clueful enough to make it on to irc? | 00:19 |
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| nibalizer | mordred: mayhaps we have your vote on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237822/ | 00:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Sam Yaple proposed openstack/requirements: Block requests 2.8.1 https://review.openstack.org/237766 | 00:20 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: they couldn't properly post to the infra mailing list it appears | 00:22 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: and handing off work to someone else that I am perfectly cabable of doing is rather besides my point | 00:22 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: though I do appreciate the offer | 00:22 |
| nibalizer | anteaya: :) | 00:22 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: thank you | 00:22 |
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| aspiers | mordred: the existing README is only 4 lines long so it won't be a hardship to convert it :) | 00:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add health.openstack.org to cacti https://review.openstack.org/237823 | 00:24 |
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| pabelanger | nibalizer: git you help author puppet-git_resource, won't mind a review when you have cycles: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237819/ | 00:32 |
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| mordred | aspiers: :) | 00:32 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: have you any thoughts? | 00:33 |
| mordred | nibalizer: wow | 00:33 |
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| fungi | mordred: do you recall whether manage-projects still breaks if there is no master branch when importing a repo? if so, we're going to run into that with 216292 | 00:33 |
| nibalizer | pabelanger: reviewed | 00:34 |
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| mordred | fungi: I do not recall - but I do not recall that being _fixed_ | 00:34 |
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| pabelanger | anteaya: I am not sure... | 00:35 |
| pabelanger | nibalizer: thanks | 00:35 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: okay that is fair | 00:35 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: can you understand my position? | 00:35 |
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| mordred | fungi: I don't suppose there is a way to brose that repo without cloning it is there? | 00:36 |
| pabelanger | anteaya: You are offended if I understand correct | 00:37 |
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| fungi | mordred: likely not, but i can tell you it has only a debian/liberty branch with HEAD pointing at that | 00:37 |
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| anteaya | pabelanger: I find that folks dumping their frustration into channel verbally makes it a difficult place to work | 00:37 |
| mordred | fungi: yeah. that's gonna be fun | 00:37 |
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| pabelanger | fair enought | 00:38 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: as first I have to energetically step over what someone ahead of me couln't take the time to depost in a garbage bin | 00:38 |
| pabelanger | enough* | 00:38 |
| anteaya | but instead decided to throw on the floor | 00:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Install openstack-health in editable mode https://review.openstack.org/237822 | 00:38 |
| anteaya | and apparently calling people's attention to it is insufficient for folks to not to that | 00:38 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: so I am hoping you might have some thoughts to offer me | 00:38 |
| anteaya | as my current approach appears ineffective | 00:39 |
| mordred | anteaya: so, I think something you just said highlights part of the problem | 00:39 |
| anteaya | mordred: do tell | 00:39 |
| mordred | anteaya: "folks dumping their frustration into channel verbally makes it a difficult place to work" | 00:39 |
| mordred | that's a sentence that totally makes sense and is reasonable | 00:40 |
| anteaya | mordred: I'm listening | 00:40 |
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| mordred | otoh - it's easy to get into a situation where addressing the dumping itself becomes a form of dumping | 00:40 |
| mordred | which is a catch -22 | 00:40 |
| anteaya | yes that is true | 00:40 |
| anteaya | which is where i feel I am | 00:40 |
| mordred | yah | 00:40 |
| anteaya | since asking folks to pick up after them selves is not working | 00:40 |
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| anteaya | so do offer my some guidance and suggestions | 00:41 |
| anteaya | I would like to hear thoughts | 00:41 |
| mordred | I'm still working on that part - but I think the above at least helps me frame the rpoblem in my head a little more clearly | 00:41 |
| anteaya | fair enough | 00:41 |
| anteaya | if others have thoughts to offer do speak up | 00:41 |
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| nibalizer | I don't think we have a document explaing how we expect people to behave | 00:42 |
| pabelanger | anteaya: sorry, I don't. If I have offended you in some way, I apologies to you. If you believe my comments were frustration in some way, I can confirm they were not. | 00:42 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: well we do have the code of conduct | 00:42 |
| nibalizer | I know anteaya has a problem with cursing, but I don't think that's something we have written down | 00:42 |
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| nibalizer | so it falls on anteaya to police it, which is exhausiting to her | 00:42 |
| nibalizer | and I can imagine she feels alone when she brings it up | 00:42 |
| anteaya | well to be honest it is about respect | 00:42 |
| anteaya | rather than language | 00:43 |
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| anteaya | like if I go to someone's house I ask do I take my shoes off | 00:43 |
| anteaya | house rules kind of thing | 00:43 |
| anteaya | and do what the host instructs, shoes on or off | 00:43 |
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| mordred | yes. but we're in a trickeir social environment here - in that we do not have a single host | 00:44 |
| anteaya | and if I'm in a shared space, I like the example of a pow wow | 00:44 |
| anteaya | I go with what the dancers tell me | 00:44 |
| anteaya | dance clockwise, dance this dance, not this dance | 00:44 |
| anteaya | and every pow wow is different | 00:44 |
| anteaya | and folks aren't assumed to know the dances or the rules | 00:45 |
| anteaya | but if you dance and some does something you watch what they do | 00:45 |
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| anteaya | and some folks make tell you do this or don't do this | 00:45 |
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| mordred | we have a collective space, which means simultaneously people need to be mindful of each other, and also tolerant of differences of view | 00:45 |
| mordred | right | 00:45 |
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| anteaya | exactly | 00:45 |
| anteaya | my point is about respect | 00:45 |
| mordred | and so far we haven't had a lot of success with direct instructions in the form of "you should behave this way" | 00:45 |
| anteaya | no because folks do the opposite | 00:46 |
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| anteaya | to prove they can | 00:46 |
| anteaya | actually you are a great example of that mordred | 00:46 |
| anteaya | noone is going to tell you what to do | 00:46 |
| anteaya | you make the point clearly and often | 00:46 |
| anteaya | and honestly if you have to get to the point of telling poeople what to do, in a sense you have already lost | 00:47 |
| anteaya | as the pepole obviously are not clear in what the culture is anyway | 00:47 |
| mordred | yes. that's right. which is why I think you are feeling frustraed on this topic | 00:47 |
| anteaya | if they ask what to do, that is different | 00:47 |
| mordred | yup | 00:48 |
| anteaya | but I can not tolerate verbal expressions of anger dumped into channel | 00:48 |
| mordred | because thenn they' are seeking guidance and are receptive to instruction | 00:48 |
| anteaya | mordred: exactly | 00:48 |
| anteaya | one of the things I value so highly about this team is that most folks don't expect anyone else to address their frustration | 00:48 |
| anteaya | that was the key thing that attracted me to openstack in general and this team in particular | 00:49 |
| anteaya | everyone took responsi bli;ty for their own emotional state | 00:49 |
| anteaya | it was my version of nirvana | 00:49 |
| mordred | indeed. but things happen, clarkb and I have words from time to time, and if those times are too much for people, they can step away for that period of time | 00:50 |
| anteaya | and i hope I have honoured the team and what has been given my by doing the same | 00:50 |
| mordred | because often that's what one or both of us need to accomplish the task | 00:50 |
| anteaya | I haven't seen that your conversations with clarkb have been expecting the other to shore up your emotional state | 00:50 |
| anteaya | unless you have been and I am reading it wrong | 00:50 |
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| mordred | no- they are not. ut I don't think we do a ton of shoring up of emotional state in here | 00:51 |
| anteaya | no exactly | 00:52 |
| anteaya | which is my point | 00:52 |
| anteaya | that was what gave me such a clean feeling when I joined | 00:52 |
| mordred | thing is- occasional use of profanity is not something I would classify as asking someone else to shore up an emotional state | 00:53 |
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| anteaya | I will listen to your argument as I disagree | 00:53 |
| mordred | although I recognize that you do see it there | 00:53 |
| anteaya | but you go first | 00:53 |
| mordred | to me, admonishing someone else for their word choices is a very forceful and invasive act | 00:54 |
| mordred | as it is essentially telling someone how to feel, react or behave - which assumes a position of authority from which to do such a thing, and places the recipient in a directly submissive position | 00:55 |
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| mordred | that is much more of an emotional dynamic in both directions, to me | 00:56 |
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| anteaya | okay that has fair points | 00:56 |
| anteaya | is there more to this point? | 00:56 |
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| anteaya | I don't want to interrupt | 00:56 |
| mordred | that's probably fine for now | 00:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Don't duplicate source_dir option https://review.openstack.org/236164 | 00:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Add site module to deploy frontend to a dir https://review.openstack.org/236090 | 00:57 |
| anteaya | mordred: okay good points | 00:58 |
| anteaya | and I would really like to get to a place where I don't feel that I have to draw anyone's attention to their word choices | 00:58 |
| mordred | yah. I hear that | 00:58 |
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| anteaya | but at present I don't know how else to draw folks attention to the fact taht they do make choices | 00:58 |
| anteaya | as a datapoint an exchange i had with lifeless last week | 00:59 |
| anteaya | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2015-10-16.log.html#t2015-10-16T03:13:09 | 00:59 |
| anteaya | that is toward the end of the exchange | 00:59 |
| anteaya | the point being lifeless told me he was not aware of making concious choices | 00:59 |
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| anteaya | so until folks are aware they they are making choices | 01:00 |
| anteaya | and choose to make them conciously | 01:00 |
| jamielennox | lifeless: can you have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236799/ (bump keystoneauth upper constraint) when you get a sec? just a version bump that's passing jenkins | 01:00 |
| mordred | but quite honestly, I do not think that's going to happen in an effective way in the next several years - US society at least has been moving rapidly towards greater use of and less import give to the use of of profanity | 01:00 |
| anteaya | then they really can't make different choices, even if they choose to | 01:00 |
| mordred | and non-us society has been where we're at for a while | 01:00 |
| anteaya | I am Canadian | 01:00 |
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| cody-somerville | I can appreciate how impactful language can be and the emotional baggage or trigger a word can have. Is it possible that a word filter might be helpful? Maybe have it remove curse words or replace them with words that are not so painful to read? | 01:00 |
| mordred | which is not to say I thin you viewpoint is invalid | 01:00 |
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| lifeless | anteaya: mordred: I found having my language admonished really quite stressful | 01:00 |
| anteaya | I don't use profanity when I work | 01:01 |
| lifeless | just a data point | 01:01 |
| anteaya | lifeless: thank you for sharing that | 01:01 |
| anteaya | lifeless: would you like to know that I found that exchange stressful as well? | 01:01 |
| anteaya | lifeless: do you feel any benefit came from our exchange? | 01:01 |
| anteaya | cody-somerville: I think that is besides the real point | 01:02 |
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| anteaya | cody-somerville: the point is if you have to police you have already lost | 01:02 |
| anteaya | and the value you are trying to preseve had left | 01:02 |
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| mordred | anteaya: I feel like you are trying to preserve a value that never existed in this space | 01:02 |
| lifeless | anteaya: I figured you were affected or you wouldn't have said anything | 01:03 |
| anteaya | mordred: oh, I thought it did | 01:03 |
| mordred | anteaya: although I do not want you to feel the negative things you feel | 01:03 |
| anteaya | mordred: as it is what made me decide to work with infra and openstack | 01:03 |
| anteaya | lifeless: thank you | 01:03 |
| anteaya | mordred: I'm in charge of my own feelings | 01:03 |
| lifeless | I think that behaviour that affects people such that they lose interest and capacity to do productive stuff | 01:03 |
| lifeless | however that is defined | 01:03 |
| lifeless | is a problem | 01:03 |
| anteaya | mordred: to expect otherwise is to be hypocrytical | 01:03 |
| lifeless | I've been reading sarah sharps diversity blog posts with intereset | 01:04 |
| anteaya | lifeless: thank you, I agree | 01:04 |
| mordred | lifeless: ++ | 01:04 |
| anteaya | lifeless: have you | 01:04 |
| lifeless | and I think that wht we're talking about here is within that remit | 01:04 |
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| lifeless | so - if I may interject and suggest - lets not focus on what we *have had* but instead on what we *should have* here | 01:04 |
| anteaya | lifeless: that is a fair point of refocusing | 01:04 |
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| anteaya | lifeless: let's do that | 01:04 |
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| lifeless | anteaya: I have - I posted a link to them to the hp team mail, I thought | 01:05 |
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| anteaya | well given most folks reading now or in logs don't have access to hp email, can we discuss it here? | 01:06 |
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| anteaya | lifeless: if you have time? | 01:06 |
| lifeless | yeah, I'm just digging up the url | 01:06 |
| anteaya | thank you | 01:06 |
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| lifeless | and doing the review for jamielennox | 01:06 |
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| anteaya | ah yes | 01:06 |
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| lifeless | and various other multiplexing thing | 01:07 |
| anteaya | well you do seem to do that | 01:07 |
| jamielennox | lifeless: thanks | 01:07 |
| lifeless | this morning was all in-hp stuff at the local office, plus waiting in a queue for our pet shop's computers to come online to buy a pet feeder | 01:07 |
| lifeless | and stuff - I've gotten nothing that I feel responsible for, done, ye | 01:07 |
| lifeless | t | 01:07 |
| lifeless | anteaya: mordred: http://sarah.thesharps.us/2015/10/06/what-makes-a-good-community/ | 01:07 |
| mordred | lifeless: I'm sitting on plane. I feel similar | 01:07 |
| lifeless | if you have read this, great. If you haven't, please do - lets pick up once thats read. | 01:08 |
| lifeless | Its not *perfect*, but its a good starting reference point IMO. | 01:08 |
| anteaya | lifeless: what do you think is the salient point or points? | 01:08 |
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| jroll | sorry for PDF link, but this is another great read and somewhat related to this conversation: http://www.csu.edu.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0008/917018/Eight-Behaviors-for-Smarter-Teams-2.pdf | 01:10 |
| anteaya | jroll: thank you | 01:10 |
| jroll | some bits about how word choice can affect message/intent/etc | 01:10 |
| anteaya | jroll: and thanks for the warning on the pdf link | 01:11 |
| jroll | and generally a fantastic read for anyone working on a team anyway :) | 01:11 |
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| jroll | np, pdfs make me sad | 01:11 |
| anteaya | here is something I haven't been doing: Focus on interests, not positions | 01:12 |
| anteaya | so my apologies, I will look into focusing on interests | 01:12 |
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| lifeless | anteaya: well for instance "Day-to-day community interactions are generally at DISCON level 1 (Everything is peachy), occasionally dipping down to DISCON level 2 (Non-personal Insults) or DISCON level 3 (swearing)" | 01:14 |
| mordred | I like the description of ... ^^ that | 01:14 |
| lifeless | anteaya: swearing is a salient point :) | 01:14 |
| mordred | because the next two bullets | 01:14 |
| lifeless | mordred: the video is quite hilarious | 01:14 |
| lifeless | (and informative) | 01:14 |
| mordred | describe what we're trying to (and mostly succeeding at) avoiding | 01:14 |
| mordred | I do not think we have much of a problem here with personal insults or threats - which is GREAT (and not the scase in all places) | 01:15 |
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| jroll | and even further, "When microaggressions are pointed out, community members stop, listen, and apologize" <- which does happen | 01:15 |
| mordred | yup | 01:15 |
| lifeless | jamielennox: reviewed; mordred may be able to do the +2A for you | 01:16 |
| anteaya | lifeless: so are you feeling the point is swearing is an important part of a community? | 01:16 |
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| ianw | pabelanger: https://github.com/ianw/nodechecker/commit/09252a61e61d7a39a4d1112e512c53d4a6e83c59 <- should have done this a while ago, add dib builds to the nodechecker | 01:16 |
| mordred | link? | 01:16 |
| jamielennox | lifeless: thanks | 01:16 |
| jamielennox | mordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236799/ | 01:16 |
| ianw | pabelanger: but yeah, builds are ok, so that's one thing | 01:16 |
| lifeless | anteaya: huh, no | 01:16 |
| jroll | this channel deals with lots of things that break hard and frustrate people; rough language is going to happen on occassion | 01:16 |
| anteaya | lifeless: oh okay, I will read again, I am trying to understand the point | 01:16 |
| pabelanger | ianw: cool | 01:17 |
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| jroll | how many times has pip's dep resolver been insulted here (DISCON 2) | 01:17 |
| anteaya | jroll: rough languange when you have to continue working on the problem is really really hard to take | 01:17 |
| mordred | jamielennox: I support 1.2.0 | 01:17 |
| lifeless | jroll: not enough | 01:17 |
| jroll | heh | 01:17 |
| jamielennox | mordred: thought you might, thanks | 01:17 |
| anteaya | jroll: it is fine to say I am disapointed, or I am frustrated, or this is not working for me | 01:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Add documentation for third-party-ci setup https://review.openstack.org/227584 | 01:17 |
| jroll | anteaya: I understand that. we have a very diverse community here, some people are swearers and slip up | 01:17 |
| lifeless | jroll: we haven't discussed the norm here though | 01:18 |
| jroll | right right | 01:18 |
| jroll | so what I'm getting to is | 01:18 |
| anteaya | jroll: that just requires more energy from everyone else working | 01:18 |
| lifeless | jroll: like - if the norm is established and we have consensus on it, we can gently help folk both on induction, and later, to find other ways to express it | 01:18 |
| anteaya | I'm not saying folks don't have habits | 01:18 |
| jroll | I believe that post is saying that swearing or non-personal insults are not good, but are going to happen. | 01:18 |
| lifeless | I don't feel like we have a norm | 01:18 |
| anteaya | I'm saying the habits have consequences | 01:18 |
| mordred | yah. "occasionally dipping down to" | 01:19 |
| jroll | yep, I agree | 01:19 |
| lifeless | I haven't ever dumped on the channel with profanity, for instance - but I have tripped anteaya's comfort zone with my choice of language (both pop culture quotes) | 01:19 |
| anteaya | lifeless: and we discussed them when it happened and I felt our exchanges beneficial | 01:19 |
| lifeless | so we don't even need to look at the stress etc of situations to have language that is impacting some folk | 01:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Sachi King proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add non-voting constraints jobs to cinder https://review.openstack.org/237837 | 01:20 |
| ianw | mordred: so fedora22 nodes are coming up as NOT_REGISTERED ... the node build logs look ok, i'm wonder if there's been something going on registering them | 01:20 |
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| ianw | mordred: if you could grep the nodepool logs for anything interesting, that would be great | 01:20 |
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| mordred | hrm | 01:20 |
| mordred | NOT_REGISTERED is a jjb thing | 01:21 |
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| mordred | no? | 01:21 |
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| ianw | i'm thinking that zuul can find no f22 nodes | 01:21 |
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| jroll | mordred: ianw I was taught that means project-config changes haven't propagated to jenkins workers yet | 01:21 |
| jroll | not sure how accurate that is | 01:22 |
| anteaya | lifeless: we seem to have moved onto other things | 01:22 |
| anteaya | thanks all for your time and consideration thinking about these issues | 01:22 |
| anteaya | I understand this isn't necessarily what you want to discuss | 01:22 |
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| anteaya | but I am grateful you are willing to take some time and think about them and discuss them | 01:23 |
| anteaya | thank you | 01:23 |
| mordred | ianw: nodepool sees a ready fedora-22 node | 01:23 |
| mordred | 2015-10-21 01:21:39,326 DEBUG nodepool.NodePool: Deficit: fedora-22: 0 (start: 0 min-ready: 1 ready: 1 capacity: 439) | 01:23 |
| lifeless | anteaya: mordred: I'm happy to pick this up anytime | 01:23 |
| anteaya | lifeless: thank you | 01:23 |
| jroll | anteaya: ditto for me, I think it's important (and interesting) | 01:24 |
| pabelanger | ianw: mordred: are we sure openstack_functions.py was reloaded / parsed? | 01:24 |
| mordred | pabelanger: no, we are not | 01:24 |
| pabelanger | I am leaning towards that | 01:24 |
| mordred | pabelanger: doesn't zuul need a restart for that? | 01:24 |
| ianw | pabelanger: well, it should still be working for devstack, as that was ok before that change | 01:25 |
| pabelanger | mordred: I cannot remember | 01:25 |
| pabelanger | ianw: right | 01:25 |
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| ianw | i don't know how to link to it, but http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ under experimental shows it NOT_REGISTERED now | 01:25 |
| ianw | i'm struggling to think of what else we changed | 01:25 |
| jesusaurus | mordred: pabelanger: i believe nibalizer and clarkb restarted zuul earlier today to pick up a bug fix, is that the fix? | 01:26 |
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| pabelanger | ianw: only thing I can see would be the regex change I did | 01:26 |
| anteaya | jroll: thank you | 01:26 |
| ianw | which seems fine | 01:26 |
| ianw | >>> re.match('^.*-f(edora-)?2(1|2).*$', 'gate-tempest-dsvm-f22') | 01:27 |
| ianw | <_sre.SRE_Match object at 0x7f68a4de53e8> | 01:27 |
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| anteaya | fungi: compass-install needs to be revived, wooooo | 01:27 |
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| nibalizer | jesusaurus: we restarted zuul to pick up a statsd fix | 01:28 |
| nibalizer | from timrx | 01:28 |
| nibalizer | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237703/ | 01:28 |
| jesusaurus | nibalizer: ah ok | 01:28 |
| pabelanger | fungi: around for a late review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237819/ ? | 01:28 |
| pabelanger | mordred: ^ if flying become boring | 01:29 |
| ianw | pabelanger: ahh, as you're all probably yelling at me -> re.match('^.*-f(edora-)?2(1|2).*$', 'fedora-22') does *not* match | 01:29 |
| pabelanger | ianw: whaaat | 01:29 |
| pabelanger | ianw: checking | 01:29 |
| jesusaurus | ianw: ah, that leading - is making it not match | 01:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: novaclient 2.32.0 does not work against rackspace https://review.openstack.org/237811 | 01:33 |
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| pabelanger | ianw: Oh, doh. I was testing the full gate name. Not just the OS part | 01:33 |
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| pabelanger | ianw: wait, then how did it work before? | 01:34 |
| pabelanger | /me confused now | 01:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-grafyaml: Switch to puppet-git_resource https://review.openstack.org/237819 | 01:35 |
| fungi | anteaya: i'm lacking context on compass-install | 01:35 |
| fungi | what was the relevance of the comment? was there a particular review? | 01:36 |
| ianw | pabelanger: so i think the change from this morning is just wrong. and we might have got confused because there was a period where maybe zuul was restarting and didn't have f22 nodes? | 01:36 |
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| mordred | fungi: compass-install was apparently retired by mistake | 01:37 |
| fungi | oh | 01:37 |
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| fungi | i missed that in all the scrollback | 01:37 |
| mordred | I mean | 01:37 |
| mordred | it was their mistake, not ours - but that is not terribly important | 01:38 |
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| pabelanger | ianw: sorry, which change? | 01:38 |
| fungi | mordred: yep, they're not the first we will have unretired this week, and probably not the last either | 01:38 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: ^^^ sorry had to rebase that again | 01:38 |
| mordred | fungi: it sort of makes me wish we'd moved the to-be-retired repos too and then just retired them in openstack/ so that unretires weren't a name change | 01:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Revert "Match on dsvm-fedora-22 and dsvm-f21 nodes" https://review.openstack.org/237843 | 01:40 |
| ianw | pabelanger: ^ that one | 01:40 |
| mordred | fungi: but then if we were going to do that, then moving stackforge-attic and opentsack-attic too and retiring with retire commits would also make sensen - and now that's just a ton of more owkr | 01:40 |
| nibalizer | mtreinish: sorry I'll have to swing by tomorrow | 01:40 |
| mordred | owkr, btw, is how work is spelled in an airplane | 01:40 |
| nibalizer | don't have the computer that logs into gerrit right now | 01:40 |
| mtreinish | mordred, fungi: super naive question, but could you do a new repo import to openstack from stackforge. Kinda like how people preseed a new repo from github? | 01:41 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: no worries, thanks | 01:41 |
| mordred | mtreinish: you could - but what gets missed when doing that is review history | 01:41 |
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| mordred | mtreinish: when we rename, all the reviews, open and closed, come along | 01:41 |
| anteaya | fungi nibalizer http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2015-October/003296.html | 01:41 |
| pabelanger | ianw: so, I am not sure how we are going to match on: gate-infra-puppet-apply-dsvm-fedora-22 | 01:41 |
| pabelanger | ianw: unless I am missing something | 01:42 |
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| mtreinish | mordred: ah, ok. Makes sense | 01:42 |
| anteaya | fungi: yeah sorry, the original email was sent to mordred and me as well as supposed to be sent to -infra ml, but it never made it to the -infra ml | 01:42 |
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| anteaya | fungi: mordred being on a plane and engaged with other things, I didn't have any expectation he would act on it | 01:43 |
| mordred | anteaya: there are no snakes, however | 01:43 |
| fungi | ahh, okay | 01:43 |
| lifeless | mordred: on the plane? | 01:43 |
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| anteaya | mordred: fortunate | 01:43 |
| Shrews | mordred: sure, steal my jokes | 01:43 |
| anteaya | mordred: I did see a snake today | 01:43 |
| mordred | Shrews: it's all I do | 01:44 |
| lifeless | Nakato: I've lost track, where are we at getting neutron -constraints jobs voting - is there anything I can do to help? | 01:44 |
| anteaya | mordred: I saw two partridges | 01:44 |
| anteaya | mordred: and while I was watching them I nearly missed the snake right in front of me | 01:44 |
| mordred | anteaya: oh my! | 01:44 |
| fungi | anteaya: well, anyway, i expect we can just proceed as we did with network-bigswitch (project-config change to restore the acl and jobs, compass-install change to revert HEAD) | 01:44 |
| anteaya | mordred: it was a beautiful garter snake | 01:44 |
| anteaya | fungi: yeah that is what I suggested they submit for patches in my email reply | 01:45 |
| fungi | anteaya: and then we can add an entry for it to the upcoming rename planning | 01:45 |
| Nakato | lifeless: Well, it's alll there in non-voting form, so we probably just need to have a chat see when they are ready for that. Then I can go set it up in project config. | 01:45 |
| anteaya | fungi: or should we do those patches? | 01:45 |
| anteaya | fungi: yup | 01:45 |
| fungi | anteaya: if they can take a stab at the patches, that would be best (mainly because we're already all pretty busy, i'm sure) | 01:45 |
| lifeless | Nakato: I wonder if we can pull out the zuul history since they all went in and see if we have any false failures? | 01:45 |
| anteaya | fungi: yeah that is what I figured, even a half hearted attempted is worth it | 01:46 |
| anteaya | s/attempted/attempt | 01:46 |
| fungi | anteaya: but if they have trouble figuring out how to splice in the old acl and zuul configuration from the git history, i'm happy to help | 01:46 |
| anteaya | fungi: okey dokey | 01:46 |
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| anteaya | let's see what they come back with | 01:46 |
| mordred | lifeless: sounds like a job for eleasticsearch | 01:46 |
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| fungi | though for tonight i think i'm done | 01:46 |
| lifeless | Nakato: I believe tchaypo1 may also have a script | 01:46 |
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| lifeless | mordred: ^ | 01:47 |
| anteaya | fungi: yup, me too I think | 01:47 |
| anteaya | fungi: happy evening | 01:47 |
| fungi | you too anteaya | 01:47 |
| mordred | anteaya: ah! I have gotten your email | 01:47 |
| mordred | I now agree that you said those things | 01:47 |
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| anteaya | fungi: thanks | 01:48 |
| anteaya | mordred: the compass- email? | 01:48 |
| tchaypo | Script for? | 01:48 |
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| Piet | Does anyone know how to update the descriptions for the sessions at the Tokyo summit? I would like to add a little more detail to https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/schedule/design-summit | 01:48 |
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| mordred | anteaya: yes | 01:48 |
| tchaypo | Lifeless: prepare repos? | 01:49 |
| anteaya | mordred: wonderful, now you are all up to date | 01:49 |
| anteaya | mordred: good night | 01:49 |
| anteaya | Piet: I do not | 01:49 |
| mordred | anteaya: sleep well! | 01:49 |
| anteaya | mordred: thank you safe travels | 01:49 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: determine success/failure rate of a given job | 01:49 |
| mordred | Piet: I have heard tell that they are sparse on purpose | 01:49 |
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| mordred | Piet: but might be more wordy here: http://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/ | 01:51 |
| mordred | ? | 01:51 |
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| mordred | Piet: but I really don't know | 01:51 |
| Piet | Isn't that weird? | 01:51 |
| lifeless | Piet: what session in particular do you want to enhance? | 01:51 |
| Piet | http://sched.co/4Qbe | 01:52 |
| Piet | and | 01:52 |
| mordred | Piet: there is a constant balancing act in trying to keep spectators out of design summit sessions | 01:52 |
| mordred | Piet: which has worked better and worse at various times | 01:52 |
| Piet | http://sched.co/4QeL | 01:52 |
| lifeless | Piet: so yes, both of those are work sessions | 01:53 |
| lifeless | Piet: which are deliberately vague to avoid having 400 people come in to participate | 01:53 |
| Piet | Yep. I'm actually getting ready to send an email to some folks that I would like at the sessions | 01:53 |
| Piet | Makes sense | 01:53 |
| lifeless | Piet: they could be a little more specific; I believe the sched API key is owned by a little web ui, and folk doing scheduling have access to that | 01:54 |
| lifeless | but since i wasn't cursed with that this cycle, I don't know for sure | 01:54 |
| Piet | Ahhh | 01:54 |
| pabelanger | mordred: ianw: So, a thought. Can you kill the current fedora-22 node that is launched my nodepool? In an effort to cause the node to re-register with zuul | 01:54 |
| Piet | Shameless plug | 01:54 |
| pabelanger | mordred: ianw I think that is the issue | 01:54 |
| Piet | User Research Needs for the OpenStack community | 01:55 |
| Piet | http://sched.co/4Qbe | 01:55 |
| Piet | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tokyo-ux-research | 01:55 |
| Piet | UX Design Needs for the OpenStack community http://sched.co/4QeL https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tokyo-ux-design | 01:56 |
| Piet | BTW - I'd like to chat with some of you about getting an open source survey tool installed on a server | 01:57 |
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| mordred | ooh. we like installing open source tools | 01:58 |
| lifeless | Piet: speaking of surveys | 01:58 |
| lifeless | Piet: you said uhm, melinda? was interesting in running the survey - would she be using the foundation survey builder, or some other thing? Do I need to care about that, or can I just frame the questions, lead that discussion on the list, and then its all taken care of for me? | 01:59 |
| Piet | I may ask for an open source BPM as well, but need to research | 01:59 |
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| Piet | Which project team? | 02:00 |
| mordred | Piet: "Beats Per Minute? | 02:00 |
| Piet | Business Process Builder | 02:00 |
| mordred | oh my | 02:00 |
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| Piet | I'm still trying to understand how to formalize the approval process for UX designs for non-devs | 02:01 |
| Piet | Ohhhhhhh, Robert! | 02:01 |
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| Piet | Melissa Meingast expressed interest in working on the survey. She just finished some work for the Neutron team to understand barriers to migration from Nova Networks to Neutron | 02:02 |
| Piet | She's very strong at survey analysis and actually like doing developer stuff | 02:03 |
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| fungi | Piet: the interface for updating those is http://design-summit-prep.openstack.org/cheddar/ but if you're not set up as the lead for a design summit track you won't probably see anything there | 02:05 |
| fungi | Piet: you might try to reach out to thingee since he's overseeing finalization of the design summit schedule details this time | 02:06 |
| Piet | fungi Thanks! I'll reach out | 02:07 |
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| Piet | thingee Are you there? | 02:07 |
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| fungi | Piet: you can e-mail him at mike@openstack.org too. i think he's in mainland china this week so may not be awake yet | 02:08 |
| Piet | k | 02:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add openstack-health frontend to status.o.o https://review.openstack.org/236165 | 02:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add documentation about openstack-health deployment https://review.openstack.org/237268 | 02:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add health.openstack.org to cacti https://review.openstack.org/237823 | 02:13 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: can ianw and I request the fedora-22 node in nodepool be manually deleted, to launch a new one. Trying to troubleshoot something | 02:17 |
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| nibalizer | pabelanger: what are you trying to test? and how? | 02:24 |
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| ianw | nibalizer: oh, you're root now too right? | 02:29 |
| ianw | trying to get fedora 22 back up and running, at least in its limited form | 02:30 |
| nibalizer | ya, though my root keys or on a machine I'm ont on right now | 02:30 |
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| ianw | ah well | 02:31 |
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| pabelanger | nibalizer: there is a race condition I think that has happened for a single node. punting a rebuild of fedora-22 in nodepool should fix the NOT_REGISTERED issue | 02:41 |
| pabelanger | _should_ because I am guessing, since I cannot see zuul log | 02:42 |
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| pabelanger | I had this issue before with my local setup | 02:42 |
| pabelanger | and the only thing I can think of right now | 02:42 |
| pabelanger | okay, calling it tonight. Up late | 02:43 |
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| mrc3 | zxiiro, | 03:34 |
| mrc3 | oh, sorry about that. meant to ask about the tests on 237082 | 03:34 |
| mrc3 | patchset 2 includes changes on the fixtures, but i'm unsure about the <configs/> (or any other tag)'s placement relative to the other xml tags | 03:38 |
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| zxiiro | mrc3: sorry, I'm not following your question what's this <configs/> thing? | 03:44 |
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| zxiiro | mrc3: jjb will generate the tags in the order you list them when you code it | 03:45 |
| mrc3 | zxiiro, it's a broad question on xml fixtures. does it matter where one tag is position with regards to any other tag? test wise | 03:45 |
| zxiiro | mrc3: the order doesn't really matter too much as long as the configuration sections are correc | 03:45 |
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| zxiiro | mrc3: the only thing that matters is that your example xml must match the output of what's generated by your code | 03:46 |
| mrc3 | zxiiro, excellent! i get it now | 03:46 |
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| mrc3 | how much ram do i need in order to run the tests? 16 g does not seem to be enough | 04:33 |
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| mrc3 | 16 g sure was enough -- had a problem with setuptools | 04:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Normalize projects.yaml https://review.openstack.org/237889 | 06:02 |
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| AJaeger | yolanda, ianw: I would appreciate a review of some cleanups, please: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237727/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237718/ | 06:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Normalize projects.yaml https://review.openstack.org/237889 | 06:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints https://review.openstack.org/237894 | 06:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove stackforge IRC notification https://review.openstack.org/237718 | 06:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Stackforge retirement: Job cleanup https://review.openstack.org/237727 | 06:27 |
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| yolanda | hi AJaeger sure, looking at that in a while | 06:36 |
| AJaeger | yolanda: thanks, yolanda ! | 06:36 |
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| tchaypo | Nakato: so, earlier today, lifeless said that he thinks I have a script. Apparently my respones to that didn’t get sent | 06:48 |
| Nakato | tchaypo: Nope, didn't see it | 06:49 |
| tchaypo | Nakato: but I’m not clear on what you’re trying to do. I *think* I know which script he’s thinking of | 06:49 |
| tchaypo | Does it involve pulling various in-flight changes from gerrit down into your local repo, possibly needing to merge together several in-flight changes in the same repo | 06:49 |
| tchaypo | ? | 06:49 |
| Nakato | tchaypo: Scrape all the jobs since constraints thing went in, find jobs where job passed but job-constraints didn't pass, if there are any | 06:50 |
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| tchaypo | I don’t have a thing to do the scraping, but once you have a list of review numbers, I do have a thing that would let you pull down the code in the review, which would then let you run the tests locally | 06:51 |
| Nakato | Cool, flick me a link somewhere and I'll work on making something work. | 06:52 |
| tchaypo | If tests require devstack, I think my thing outputs a file that has the env vars you need to set to make devstack read the locally-cached repo rather than gerrit | 06:52 |
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| Nakato | tchaypo: I'm thinking what I probably want to do is get a list of hashes since since change went in, then go scrape logs for console.log and do some comparisons there. if py34 pass and py34-constraints fail, write to log for looking into, or such. | 06:56 |
| Nakato | StevenK: ^ Does your translation tool do something like that? | 06:56 |
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| tchaypo | if you give it a review number, it’ll find the latest thingy for that review | 06:57 |
| tchaypo | but thingy != hash | 06:57 |
| Nakato | Review numbers shouldn't be too hard. I'm thinkign the gerrit API can do that. Just SSH session creation is painfully slow. | 06:58 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: no, I was thinking of the CI dashboardy thing | 06:58 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: which I thought you'd picked up and poked at | 06:58 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: since 'jobs which fail' is a ci dashboardy problem | 06:58 |
| tchaypo | oh right. | 06:59 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: re-running the jobs doesn't gain us anything here AFAIK | 06:59 |
| tchaypo | that other thing! | 06:59 |
| tchaypo | http://bruce.jamezpolley.com/reports/nova.html | 06:59 |
| tchaypo | the thing that does those reports? | 06:59 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: we're trying to answer the question 'is it safe to make the neutron -constraints jobs voting | 06:59 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: mordred suggested logstash | 06:59 |
| tchaypo | logstash seems sensible, if you can craft an appropriate query | 07:00 |
| lifeless | another somewhat crude way | 07:01 |
| lifeless | git log in neutron | 07:01 |
| lifeless | pull out the change ids | 07:01 |
| lifeless | gerritlib to read out the most recent openstackci comment from those changes, which will be the one that landed in master (but verify that in case of backports) | 07:01 |
| lifeless | and see if -constraints was reported as success | 07:01 |
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| tchaypo | https://github.com/jamezpolley/jenkins-job-scraper is the code to make http://bruce.jamezpolley.com/reports/nova.html | 07:02 |
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| shardy | Morning all - looking for additional reviews/approval of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237597/ (project-config change for TripleO), if anyone has time to take a look that would be much appreciated, thanks! :) | 07:04 |
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| Nakato | lifeless: Wouldn't -constraints be broken if anything that broke it landed? | 07:05 |
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| lifeless | Nakato: not if its flaky | 07:12 |
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| lifeless | Nakato: it might fail spuriously one time in 20 for instance, because of $unknown | 07:12 |
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| tchaypo | Nakato: fwiw, https://github.com/jamezpolley/ansible-jjs is an ansible role which sets up that script | 07:22 |
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| tchaypo | I use it with a Vagrantfile: | 07:23 |
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| tchaypo | that calls vagrant-ansible, passing a playbook which just points to that role | 07:23 |
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| jed56 | Hi | 07:36 |
| jed56 | AJaeger : Hi | 07:36 |
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| jed56 | Can somebody tell me what I need to do to finish to create watcher-specs ? please | 07:39 |
| jed56 | this the link of my review : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233679/ | 07:39 |
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| AJaeger | jed56: have patience, please http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html#wait-here | 07:42 |
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| AJaeger | jed56: any change needs two core reviewers, and eventually the second review will happen... | 07:43 |
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| jed56 | AJaeger : thank you very much for your answer. I just wanted to be sure that I have not missed something | 07:45 |
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| AJaeger | jed56: Nothing for you to do - unless comments get asked during reviews - for now | 07:45 |
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| jed56 | Okay | 07:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sebastian Schuberth proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: cmd: Add a fallback for jenkins_jobs.ini to the user's home directory https://review.openstack.org/237694 | 07:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Explain official projects https://review.openstack.org/237923 | 08:10 |
| AJaeger | aspiers: would the change above helped you? ^ | 08:11 |
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| SamYaple | does a full OpenStack functional test occur when the proposal bot submits a "Updated from generate-constraints" patch? | 08:17 |
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| mordred | yes | 08:18 |
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| mordred | SamYaple: we are a giant cannon of running tests :) | 08:18 |
| SamYaple | ok so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237766/ shouldnt be needed? | 08:19 |
| SamYaple | in which case we should even be able to remove the block on 2.8.1? | 08:19 |
| SamYaple | 2.8.0* | 08:19 |
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| AJaeger | mordred, are you fully awake? I would appreciate a review of some cleanups, please: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237727/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237718/ | 08:19 |
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| AJaeger | SamYaple: the constraints infrastructure is not fully implemetned, the upper-constraints-file is ignored for most tests | 08:20 |
| SamYaple | hmmm | 08:21 |
| mordred | SamYaple: yes - what AJaeger said - it's used for devstack tests - but not unittests | 08:21 |
| mordred | yet | 08:21 |
| mordred | AJaeger: I just got off a 14 hour flight so my judgement may be impaired | 08:21 |
| SamYaple | so >=2.8.0 pulls in urllib3==1.12 and that is broken just not being caught | 08:21 |
| AJaeger | mordred: then better get some rest ;) | 08:21 |
| SamYaple | odyssey4me: devstack deploys but no full unit tests so the problem can still exist | 08:22 |
| SamYaple | odyssey4me: regardless of uppet-constraints.txt | 08:23 |
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| odyssey4me | SamYaple it sounds like you're jumping the gun | 08:23 |
| odyssey4me | if the upper constraints file is ignored by most tests, that means that most tests are running with requests 2.8.1 | 08:24 |
| SamYaple | i agree, which pulls in urllib 1.2 | 08:24 |
| SamYaple | so if thats not breaking we can remove 2.8.0 block then | 08:24 |
| SamYaple | the issue is it _is_ breaking | 08:24 |
| SamYaple | as in i see it | 08:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Define local gerrit replication and cronjob only once https://review.openstack.org/210502 | 08:24 |
| mordred | AJaeger: look great | 08:25 |
| mordred | AJaeger: +3 to both | 08:25 |
| AJaeger | thanks, mordred ! | 08:25 |
| odyssey4me | SamYaple no, 2.8.0 was blocked for a different reason | 08:26 |
| odyssey4me | ok, so is it breaking for the gate? | 08:26 |
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| SamYaple | it does not appear to be | 08:27 |
| SamYaple | but this issue was never caught by the gates before | 08:27 |
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| odyssey4me | logstash query? | 08:27 |
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| odyssey4me | SamYaple is was caught be grenade, as per the bug registered | 08:28 |
| SamYaple | mordred: i am suppose to talk with you about setting up repo mirrors for infra | 08:29 |
| SamYaple | clarkb said you did some work on that already | 08:29 |
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| SamYaple | odyssey4me: ok let me hammer on it some more and find the breakdown. im confused as to why urllib == 1.12 works now with no change to glanceclient | 08:30 |
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| tlbr | fungi: hi, could you please help with merging https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216292/ | 08:40 |
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| fsantoro | hi all.. is it possible that zuul post comments to gerrit even if no corresponding job was triggered? In particular a comment like Build successful with no links to results | 08:44 |
| fsantoro | for instance this patch cisco and 6wind CI https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237769/ | 08:45 |
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| tlbr | guys, please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216292/ | 09:05 |
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| yolanda | tlbr, done | 09:13 |
| tlbr | yolanda, thank you :) | 09:13 |
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| davidsha | ajo: ping | 09:46 |
| ajo | hi davidsha , pong, sorry, I Think I left our conversation in the middle last day | 09:46 |
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| ajo | could you ask in #openstack-neutron | 09:46 |
| ajo | since it's more specific than infra? | 09:47 |
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| davidsha_ | ajo: sorry got disconnected! | 09:48 |
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| davidsha_ | ajo: no problem, I made a rfe bug report for what I was talking about and hopefully it's a bit easier to understand. | 09:49 |
| ajo | davidsha_,oh, let me check | 09:50 |
| ajo | is it qos tagged? | 09:50 |
| davidsha_ | yes, https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1508384 | 09:50 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1508384 in neutron "QoS proxy functions" [Undecided,New] | 09:50 |
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| davidsha_ | There goes my last login... | 09:50 |
| ajo | davidsha_: ack, reading | 09:52 |
| ajo | ah, davidsha_ , yes, this is something we've been thinking about, | 09:52 |
| ajo | davidsha_, we started like this to have a consistent REST api design | 09:53 |
| ajo | davidsha_: the issue, in the client, is how to make the arguments and help dependent on the rule type | 09:53 |
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| ajo | otherwise we ended up with a big crunch of optional arguments when you did neutron qos-rule-update --help | 09:53 |
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| davidsha_ | ajo: thats what I was thinking as well, would it be possible to make specifying a rule mandatory for that? | 09:54 |
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| davidsha_ | with generic help text about needing a specified rule for more detailed information. | 09:55 |
| ajo | you can make the rule mandatory, but, I don't know how to make the rule-specific arguments plugged per-rule type | 09:56 |
| ajo | if you discover how to make that, that'd be great | 09:56 |
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| davidsha_ | I'll look into it and let you know what I come up with, would it be possible to put it on the agenda for the QoS meeting this evening? | 09:59 |
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| davidsha_ | I won't be at the summit so the opinions I get from the meeting would be good to work off till everyone is back. | 10:00 |
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| aspiers | infra-root: if it's considered bad netiquette to chase for reviews then please accept my apologies and ignore; if not, a second +2 for this one-line change would be awesome, since people already discovered the new IRC channel and it would be nice for eavesdrop to have a fairly complete set of logs for the new channel :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237341/ | 10:43 |
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| kozhukalov_ | SergeyLukjanov, others, could you please take a look at these? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235355 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235177 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235822/ | 11:51 |
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| kozhukalov_ | thanks in advance | 11:51 |
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| odyssey4me | it looks like the theme for docs.openstack.org/developer/<project> has a broken link structure for the 'project source' link on the left - it has an extra '/p' in the URL - does anyone know where this theme comes from? | 12:05 |
| odyssey4me | or perhaps we're meant to move on over to the new theme? | 12:05 |
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| flyingtt | hi, could any core reviewer take a review on this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188717/ | 12:43 |
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| AJaeger | infra-root, since there was some discussion about official projects and I see non-official projects that like to publish to docs.o.o, I wrote up the following patch and like your review so that we can reference this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237923/ | 13:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mateusz Matuszkowiak proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Added new Openstack repository for Fuel Netwok-Node plugin integration https://review.openstack.org/236939 | 13:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Add freezegun to global requirements https://review.openstack.org/228603 | 13:18 |
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| fungi | odyssey4me: i believe dhellmann put together a fix for that, though it may not be merged/released yet | 13:29 |
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| odyssey4me | fungi yeah, just found the ML thread and the fix which merged yesterday | 13:29 |
| odyssey4me | it doesn't render locally properly though | 13:30 |
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| fungi | odyssey4me: the fix involves adding the correct source code url to your doc/source/conf.py | 13:30 |
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| fungi | it makes it configurable, it doesn't really improve the already incorrect fallback guess | 13:31 |
| odyssey4me | fungi so with https://review.openstack.org/238042 I end up getting the right result in a gate check, but a local build results in a link like this: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/git@github.com:openstack/openstack-ansible.git | 13:31 |
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| fungi | interesting. like it's not finding that in your conf.py or something | 13:33 |
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| odyssey4me | oddly, for samueldmq https://review.openstack.org/238047 gave him http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystone.git on a local build | 13:34 |
| fungi | odyssey4me: are you sure the right version of oslosphinx is getting used? | 13:34 |
| odyssey4me | the '.git' is extra | 13:34 |
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| odyssey4me | ah, now that could be a thing | 13:34 |
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| fungi | right, both of those incorrectly mangled urls are possibilities i pointed out in the review for the oslosphinx fix as ways the fallback could be improved (with some added complication), but in the end it was decided not to improve the fallback at all and just let projects properly define their urls in configuration | 13:35 |
| odyssey4me | fungi :) you were right, of course | 13:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Removing cellspacing from the tripleo ci report https://review.openstack.org/235419 | 13:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Use the new shortened tripleo ci job names https://review.openstack.org/235420 | 13:37 |
| odyssey4me | fungi ah, oslosphinx has ot yet tagged a new revision | 13:40 |
| odyssey4me | *not | 13:40 |
| fungi | right, i would be surprised if it had. that thread and change were from just a few days ago | 13:41 |
| odyssey4me | ok, then I'm happy - the change will take effect when there's a new tag | 13:42 |
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| dhellmann | fungi, odyssey4me: that fix for oslosphinx hasn't been release yet, afaict | 13:54 |
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| dtantsur | hi folks, can we have an ironic-lib version bump please? it delays migrating ironic to ironic-lib https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231368 | 13:54 |
| odyssey4me | dhellmann yep :) we can wait | 13:54 |
| odyssey4me | dhellmann it would be nicer if it did a better guess though :) | 13:55 |
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| dhellmann | odyssey4me: dims probably won't release it until after the summit at this point, and yeah, I should have just cut the guess out entirely or made it much smarter, but ENOTIME | 13:56 |
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| dims | odyssey4me: is it a rush order? :) | 13:57 |
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| odyssey4me | dims I don't think so - all websites in docs.openstack.org/developer/ have broken source links | 13:57 |
| odyssey4me | so I'd rather someone find time to fix the guess | 13:58 |
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| odyssey4me | for now, it's no change from the current state unless someone has gone an updated their docs/conf.py | 13:58 |
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| dims | odyssey4me: ok | 13:59 |
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| dims | odyssey4me: next set of releases would be the week after next | 13:59 |
| dims | on mon | 13:59 |
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| SamYaple | odyssey4me: thanks i figured out where the breakdown was happening to introduce the issue again. master looks a-ok. appreciate the help! | 14:04 |
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| anteaya | dtantsur: to whom are you addressing your request? | 14:05 |
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| anteaya | dtantsur: I don't know who releases ironic-lib | 14:05 |
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| anteaya | dtantsur: I'm guessing someone in the ironic project would either handle that or know who does | 14:06 |
| dtantsur | anteaya, this is a requirements patch, not release request | 14:06 |
| dtantsur | bumping g-r, sorry for confusion | 14:06 |
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| anteaya | dtantsur: oh sorry, I mis-understood your request | 14:06 |
| anteaya | dtantsur: ah okay thanks | 14:06 |
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| odyssey4me | SamYaple oh? where was it? | 14:08 |
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| SamYaple | odyssey4me: distro packages mixed with wheels, as always :) | 14:09 |
| mtreinish | fungi, yolanda: if you get a sec, the new health.openstack.org server is returning 500s on every request. From http://health.openstack.org/status it looks like it lost db connectivity which we probably don't handle well/at all in the api code | 14:09 |
| mtreinish | I was wondering if there were any more details in the logs | 14:09 |
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| odyssey4me | SamYaple ah, yeah - that one is rather a pain | 14:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Add heatclient support https://review.openstack.org/222856 | 14:10 |
| fungi | mtreinish: i'll check in a bit | 14:10 |
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| yolanda | mtreinish, i can take a quick look | 14:11 |
| mtreinish | fungi, yolanda: thanks | 14:11 |
| fungi | thanks yolanda! | 14:11 |
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| mtreinish | yolanda: while your looking, it also looks like puppet isn't running: http://puppetboard.openstack.org/node/health.openstack.org | 14:12 |
| mtreinish | we might want to turn that back on so new commits will be picked up | 14:12 |
| yolanda | i see errors like | 14:12 |
| yolanda | [Wed Oct 21 00:29:16.737117 2015] [:error] [pid 13958:tid 140543488378624] /opt/openstack-health/.venv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pymysql/cursors.py:146: Warning: Incorrect datetime value: '2015-10-01T00:25:59.616Z' for column 'run_at' at row 1 | 14:12 |
| yolanda | but nothing now, last one is that at time | 14:12 |
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| mtreinish | yolanda: hmm, ok. thats normally not a fatal error it just doesnt date filter properly (there was a recent fix for that pushed though) | 14:13 |
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| yolanda | fungi, aren't our manifests spinning up puppet agent automatically? i had to start it manually | 14:13 |
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| fungi | yolanda: i expect nibalizer didn't think to `sudo ssh health.openstack.org` from the puppetmaster and accept the host key | 14:14 |
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| yolanda | i ran puppet agent --test and applied fine, but the agent was not started | 14:16 |
| mtreinish | yolanda: heh, re-running puppet which restarted apache fixed the issue: http://health.openstack.org/status and http://health.openstack.org/runs/group_by/project?start_date=10-01-2015 | 14:16 |
| mtreinish | well at least until the next db timeout :( | 14:17 |
| yolanda | mtreinish, yes, it could have solved temporarily, but i guess it will come back | 14:17 |
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| mtreinish | I'll work on a fix for that, and a patch to add more debug info on 500 responses was merged so it should be there when it happens again | 14:17 |
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| yolanda | cool | 14:18 |
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| pabelanger | morning. Looking to get some help from an infra-root on grafana.o.o and a puppet issue. Trying to understand my grafyaml is not working as expected | 14:47 |
| pabelanger | as this all works locally :( | 14:47 |
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| mtreinish | yolanda: I think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238118/ should do the trick | 14:53 |
| fungi | pabelanger: what specifically do you need checked? puppet doesn't seem to be erroring that i can tell | 14:55 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: for some reason, puppet is not refreshing the exec to invoke the update for dashboards | 14:56 |
| pabelanger | so, either puppet, or grafana-dashboards | 14:56 |
| pabelanger | fungi: can you run rafana-dashboard --config-file /etc/grafyaml/grafyaml.conf validate /etc/grafyaml/config | 14:56 |
| fungi | pabelanger: as root or as a specific user? | 14:56 |
| pabelanger | fungi: root should be fine | 14:57 |
| pabelanger | since that is what puppet will do | 14:57 |
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| yolanda | mtreinish, looking | 14:57 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: yeah, time for you to hate python packaging a little more http://paste.openstack.org/show/477029/ | 14:58 |
| anteaya | fungi: thanks for adding the pointer to the work session :) | 14:58 |
| fungi | anteaya: for better or worse, it's my job now | 14:58 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: Hmm. Okay. Let me see if I can reproduce it locally | 14:58 |
| pabelanger | fungi: thanks | 14:58 |
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| yolanda | mtreinish, do you want to be on a config file as well? | 14:59 |
| fungi | pabelanger: i suspect it's not installed sanely | 14:59 |
| fungi | pabelanger: might be missing egg-info or something | 14:59 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: pip install /opt/grafyaml is the command setup to install from local filesystem | 15:00 |
| mtreinish | yolanda: well I set some defaults there which would be what I'd try in a config file | 15:00 |
| fungi | pabelanger: well, yes unless what's installed is broken and pip doesn't realize you want it reinstalled | 15:00 |
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| mtreinish | yolanda: if they don't work I figured we can tune them with follow up puppet changes | 15:00 |
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| yolanda | ok so at the moment you just leave on code? | 15:01 |
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| mtreinish | yeah, that's what I was thinking | 15:02 |
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| anteaya | fungi: :) you are wearing the mantle well | 15:03 |
| anteaya | 6wind has found a place in my heart! | 15:03 |
| anteaya | yay folks who take responsiblity for their actions | 15:03 |
| fungi | pabelanger: but yeah, if i uninstall and then install grafyaml again, --version still gives me that same exception | 15:03 |
| pabelanger | fungi: okay, let me test locally | 15:03 |
| pabelanger | fungi: thanks | 15:04 |
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| yolanda | mtreinish, i have +1 rights there only, let me check | 15:04 |
| yolanda | we need correct group added | 15:04 |
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| yolanda | ah, no, sorry, is not pupept | 15:04 |
| yolanda | puppet | 15:04 |
| fungi | pabelanger: it's also possible there's some leftover cruft pip didn't remove from an earlier broken install or something... i'll see if i can clean up more thoroughly and retry | 15:04 |
| yolanda | is openstack health, is ok to have +1 | 15:04 |
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| mtreinish | yolanda: yeah, it's a seperate project so a +1 is fine :) | 15:05 |
| mtreinish | thanks | 15:06 |
| yolanda | anytime | 15:06 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: do you have a thing yet? | 15:06 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: okay, I might have reproduced it | 15:07 |
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| mtreinish | anteaya: the rest api is running now | 15:07 |
| mtreinish | anteaya: for example something like: http://health.openstack.org/runs/group_by/project?start_date=10-01-2015 | 15:07 |
| pabelanger | fungi: well, it was broken | 15:07 |
| mtreinish | which isn't the pretty pictures | 15:08 |
| mtreinish | but getting there | 15:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/diskimage-builder: Use DIB_EPEL_MIRROR when finding the epel-release package https://review.openstack.org/237676 | 15:08 |
| pabelanger | fungi: but I deleted /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/*, reinstalled install_puppet and then grafyaml. and works | 15:08 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: I think that link gets me .json output | 15:08 |
| pabelanger | so something causing the issue | 15:08 |
| mtreinish | anteaya: yep | 15:08 |
| anteaya | okey dokey, works as expected then | 15:08 |
| anteaya | well done | 15:08 |
| mtreinish | anteaya: the frontend side is up for review: https://review.openstack.org/236165 | 15:08 |
| anteaya | ah ha | 15:09 |
| mtreinish | that will take that json blob and make a graph or 2 from it | 15:09 |
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| anteaya | mtreinish: question about a sentence in the commit message | 15:10 |
| anteaya | it'll cd the js | 15:10 |
| anteaya | change directory the javascript? | 15:10 |
| mtreinish | continuously deploy | 15:10 |
| anteaya | ah | 15:11 |
| mtreinish | should have done that in caps | 15:11 |
| anteaya | that wouldn't have helped me | 15:11 |
| anteaya | I'm terrible at acronyms | 15:11 |
| anteaya | and we want tabs in the .html file? | 15:11 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: okay. I know the issue | 15:11 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: a fresh install using pip install /opt/grafyaml works | 15:12 |
| mtreinish | anteaya: they were there, I just copy and pasted | 15:12 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: cool--because i can't find whatever cruft is being left behind by pip uninstall | 15:12 |
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| anteaya | mtreinish: okay | 15:12 |
| pabelanger | fungi: is the git repo /opt/grafyaml updates to a new release, then you run pip install /opt/grafyaml again | 15:12 |
| pabelanger | it breaks | 15:12 |
| pabelanger | fungi: but, I don't know why | 15:12 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: actually that file needs cleaning up, there is some whitespace near the top that can go | 15:12 |
| fungi | pabelanger: you might want to pick mordred's brain on that, though he's probably not very around at the momenty | 15:13 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: yup, also noticed the version numbers between --version and pip install are different. | 15:14 |
| pabelanger | Successfully installed grafyaml-0.0.2.dev10 | 15:14 |
| pabelanger | $ grafana-dashboard --version | 15:14 |
| pabelanger | 0.0.1.dev9316 | 15:14 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: and you did use caps for CD | 15:15 |
| fungi | pabelanger: well, i've also confirmed that `grafana-dashboard --version` works when my working directory is /opt/grafyaml but breaks otherwise | 15:15 |
| pabelanger | fungi: ya, I noticed that too | 15:15 |
| mtreinish | anteaya: oh, ok. I couldn't remember | 15:15 |
| fungi | pabelanger: did the oslo.config teardown merge? i still see vestiges of it in setup.cfg | 15:16 |
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| tcammann | hello https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235854/ is this the right approach to get doc8 testing in? | 15:16 |
| pabelanger | fungi: it should have, left ofver crud? | 15:17 |
| fungi | probably | 15:17 |
| fungi | i don't think it matters | 15:17 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: you could probably also stand to add [wheel] universal=1 | 15:17 |
| pabelanger | fungi: okay, will look into that too | 15:17 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: the only other thing i'm not sure might be contributing is the package name being not the same as the packages list | 15:18 |
| fungi | i don't know to what extent that works or doesn't with pbr | 15:19 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: let me double check with JJB | 15:20 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: good point, that's a mismatch too so in theory it does work | 15:20 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: Ya, I think you are on to something... I might have some incorrect code | 15:21 |
| pabelanger | testing now | 15:21 |
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| fungi | VersionInfo('grafana-dashboards') looks maybe wrong? | 15:22 |
| fungi | try a s/-/_/ there perhaps | 15:22 |
| pabelanger | fungi: Ya, that is what I am testing | 15:23 |
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| pabelanger | I think it needs to be grafyaml | 15:23 |
| fungi | oh, yep | 15:23 |
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| fungi | i just compared to jjb | 15:23 |
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| fungi | VersionInfo('jenkins-job-builder') is what it's doing rather than VersionInfo('jenkins_jobs') | 15:23 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: Yup, that looks to be the issue | 15:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/grafyaml: VersionInfo for pbr needs to be package name https://review.openstack.org/238138 | 15:28 |
| pabelanger | fungi: ^ | 15:28 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: the odd thing, is puppet doesn't report the issue. I would have expected puppetdb to report a failure | 15:29 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: i think the install was succeeding. the exec might be reported as a failure but i'd need to look for exactly when it attempted to fire it | 15:30 |
| pabelanger | fungi: I thought it was the Vcsrepo issue for notify, so I ported to puppet-git_resources last night. Will have to keep an eye on it I guess | 15:30 |
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| fungi | puppet-git_resources is the new hip thing anyway, so just as well | 15:32 |
| pabelanger | much cool | 15:32 |
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| anteaya | mtreinish: ^^ | 15:34 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: tell me if that works for you | 15:34 |
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| fungi | clarkb: ^ needed a minor syntax error correction | 15:36 |
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| derekh | The puppet modules for single_use_slave is starting snmpd here http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/system-config/tree/modules/openstack_project/manifests/template.pp | 15:39 |
| derekh | Does anybody know if this is used/needed ? | 15:39 |
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| AJaeger | There's a change to introduce globally a doc8 target, remembering previous discussion we should use pep8 for all style checks instead of separating out doc8. Is that correct? See https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235854/ | 15:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | sebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid-resources: Summit Application API https://review.openstack.org/221964 | 15:43 |
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| sdague | clarkb: this seems to be correct and working now - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236901/ | 15:45 |
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| anteaya | AJaeger: magnum appears to want to do something | 15:46 |
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| anteaya | AJaeger: and yes I do recall we trimmed syntax checking but don't have a link to the actual discussion | 15:46 |
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| anteaya | AJaeger: if you are remembering we decided pep8 I have nothing to offer as a contradiction | 15:47 |
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| mtreinish | fungi: do you know if we have an example somewhere of enabling mod_cache on apache? | 15:47 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: I wonder what magnum wants that they feel they need this | 15:47 |
| AJaeger | anteaya: I think we had it here ages ago and it was pep8 but I'd like to reconfirm this. | 15:47 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: yup | 15:47 |
| AJaeger | anteaya: feel free to ask... | 15:47 |
| AJaeger | ...in the review | 15:47 |
| anteaya | true, I can do that | 15:47 |
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| fungi | mtreinish: according to hound.openstack.org you may want to look in puppet-cgit or puppet-zuul | 15:48 |
| jroll | sdague: you may find this interesting http://logs.openstack.org/85/237985/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-ironic-agent_ssh/5cfcf77/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-10-21_15_27_09_233 | 15:48 |
| jroll | looks like maybe another FS error | 15:48 |
| mtreinish | fungi: ooh, fancy. didn't realize that was a thing | 15:49 |
| fungi | derekh: i don't expect having a running snmpd is needed by any tests. that's probably just bleed-over from setup for our long-lived slaves and general purpose servers | 15:49 |
| fungi | mtreinish: it's not a thing (yet), just a poc. it's becoming a thing via http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/code-search.html | 15:50 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: thank you | 15:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | sebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid-resources: Summit Application API https://review.openstack.org/221964 | 15:53 |
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| derekh | fungi: ok, thanks, I might take a look at turning it off from the single use slaves, I'm being asked questions about why is the port open in instances on the rh1 cloud | 15:53 |
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| AJaeger | anteaya: found it - over a year ago: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2014-10-03.log.html#t2014-10-03T18:59:14 | 15:53 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: you detective you | 15:54 |
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| AJaeger | anteaya: found in my local IRC client archive ;) Thanks to grep | 15:55 |
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| tcammann | I don't mind putting doc8 under pep8, didn't realise that was the "correct" way | 15:55 |
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| anteaya | AJaeger: grep is such a good friend | 15:56 |
| AJaeger | anteaya, fungi, clarkb: One more review request for your stack: A change for infra manual to speak about official projects and what it entitiles: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237923/ | 15:56 |
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| anteaya | tcammann: ah it is you | 15:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Vanderwiel proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add heat lbaas specific test for v1 and v2 https://review.openstack.org/237156 | 15:56 |
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| tcammann | as mentioned in the archive, it is poorly named if that's what pep8 is for | 15:56 |
| AJaeger | tcammann: yes, please do that. | 15:56 |
| anteaya | tcammann: ah okay, I was just wondering if magnum was doing something specific that needed discussion | 15:56 |
| tcammann | just want doc8 being run somewhere :) | 15:57 |
| anteaya | tcammann: fair enough | 15:57 |
| AJaeger | tcammann: running doc8 is something I really appreciate ;) | 15:57 |
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| tcammann | anteaya, AJaeger: thanks for looking into it | 15:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Vanderwiel proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add heat lbaas specific test for v1 and v2 https://review.openstack.org/237156 | 15:58 |
| AJaeger | tcammann: you're welcome! | 15:58 |
| anteaya | tcammann: thank you | 15:58 |
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| nibalizer | 'morning folks | 15:59 |
| anteaya | morning nibalizer | 15:59 |
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| anteaya | fsantoro: hello | 16:01 |
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| anteaya | fsantoro: nice to meet you | 16:01 |
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| anteaya | fsantoro: thank you for being such a responsible third party ci operator | 16:01 |
| anteaya | fsantoro: it is a pleasure to make your aquaintence | 16:01 |
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| fsantoro | hello everybody | 16:03 |
| anteaya | fsantoro: hello and welcome | 16:03 |
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| anteaya | you were telling me something about your process | 16:04 |
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| fsantoro | it was probably my fault but in the zuul documentation i was not able to find any information on how to avoid publishing comments with no logs | 16:05 |
| anteaya | thanks for looking at the zuul documentation | 16:05 |
| fsantoro | anyway I backported the patch on top of my zuul 2.1.0 | 16:05 |
| anteaya | yay \o/ | 16:05 |
| anteaya | how did that go | 16:05 |
| anteaya | fsantoro: and it probably isnt' your fault at all | 16:06 |
| anteaya | zuul was built for openstack-infra's needs in mind | 16:06 |
| anteaya | and we don't need to do all the things that third party ci operators do | 16:06 |
| anteaya | fsantoro: here is our zuul status page: http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ | 16:07 |
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| anteaya | fsantoro: so we are very glad when we meet a third party ci operator who can share their experience with us so we know what you are seeing | 16:07 |
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| anteaya | and we are very appreciate of folks who offer patches so we can fix bugs and make the tooling better | 16:08 |
| anteaya | some of our third party ci operators have been the first alert on some of our tooling bugs | 16:08 |
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| anteaya | and have been the ones to patch them | 16:08 |
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| fsantoro | I understand.. anyway now I am able to publish comments just when filtered files are concerned by patches | 16:09 |
| anteaya | fsantoro: marvelous, thank you so much | 16:09 |
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| anteaya | fsantoro: would you be willing to post the steps you took to success in the thread to the mailing list? | 16:09 |
| anteaya | then folks who are having the same issue can know there is a solution and how to get that for themselves? | 16:09 |
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| fsantoro | Ok sure | 16:11 |
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| anteaya | thank you | 16:12 |
| anteaya | fsantoro: there are some other great operators I encourage you to meet | 16:12 |
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| anteaya | fsantoro: we have third party meetings to discuss issues and compare fixes and patches | 16:13 |
| anteaya | fsantoro: many of them are cancelled next week due to summit | 16:13 |
| anteaya | fsantoro: but will be held after summit | 16:13 |
| anteaya | fsantoro: will you be at summit? | 16:13 |
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| fungi | yep, the reason that wasn't previously implemented in zuul is that for our (upstream) use case we don't expect to avoid running jobs entirely on some changes--we attempt to run at least one job for any change proposed | 16:14 |
| fungi | though that improvement, submitted by another third-party ci operator, was most welcome | 16:15 |
| anteaya | I have to step away from my keyboard for a bit, so nice to meet you fsantoro, and welcome | 16:15 |
| fsantoro | Ok I see | 16:15 |
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| fsantoro | thank you both anteaya and fungi for your help | 16:16 |
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| fungi | you're welcome! | 16:16 |
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| fungi | grr... graphite.o.o seems to have bombed again. fixing | 16:17 |
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| fungi | [Wed Oct 21 02:54:58 2015] Out of memory: Kill process 15520 (carbon-cache.py) score 752 or sacrifice child | 16:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-elastic_recheck: Use the new --conf option to pass in values https://review.openstack.org/237796 | 16:19 |
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| clarkb | sdague: where do we look in the grenade logs to confirm that the cached get-pip and cirros image files were used? | 16:20 |
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| clarkb | sdague: the change itself looks good now | 16:20 |
| pabelanger | fungi: I was just about to say that | 16:20 |
| pabelanger | fungi: surprised we don't have anything to restart the process if OOM kills it | 16:21 |
| fungi | i cleanly restarted apache2, statsd and carbon-cache on the server | 16:21 |
| fungi | just starting that process again doesn't seem to solve the issue. i think the oom killer may be guessing poorly on what to kill there | 16:21 |
| pabelanger | fungi: Ah | 16:22 |
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| fungi | i mean, it solves it for a little while, but i think the leak may be in another service | 16:22 |
| clarkb | sdague: http://logs.openstack.org/01/236901/7/check/gate-grenade-dsvm/fb9cf5f/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz#_2015-10-21_14_18_38_956 doesn't look like it curled or wgetted | 16:22 |
| clarkb | fungi: we do run those services from HEAD iirc | 16:22 |
| fungi | pabelanger: so it'll just start killing carbon-cache more and more frequently until there's no longer enough memory to run it at all, and then it will start killing apache processes instead | 16:22 |
| openstackgerrit | sebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid-resources: Summit Application API https://review.openstack.org/221964 | 16:23 |
| fungi | i've noticed if i restart apache2 and statsd services as well, we seem to go a lot longer between carbon-cache oom events | 16:23 |
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| ddieterl_ | general question: is there a way to test changes to project-config repos before changes are submitted for review? | 16:25 |
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| ddieterl_ | i need to add tempest tests to a gate and i want to make sure they work before the changes to the gate process are merged | 16:26 |
| clarkb | ddieterl_: it depends on the type of project-config change but usually yes | 16:26 |
| clarkb | ddieterl_: to test that jenkins job changes work you should run the jenkins job locally | 16:27 |
| clarkb | devstack-gate has a README will of directions on how to do that for devstack+tempest things | 16:27 |
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| ddieterly | is devstack-gate a repo or a dir in a repo? | 16:28 |
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| fungi | ddieterly: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/tree/README.rst#n95 | 16:29 |
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| fungi | also, following the devstack-gate readme to run one of those yourself gets you a new appreciation for the fact that zuul and nodepool are firing hundreds of them in parallel most of the time | 16:30 |
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| ddieterly | fungi: thanks | 16:30 |
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| clarkb | nibalizer: for the elasticsearch upgrade I think I actually awnt to try having ansible do the whole thing | 16:32 |
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| clarkb | nibalizer: so I will write up playbook(s) to do it and go from there | 16:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/grafyaml: VersionInfo for pbr needs to be package name https://review.openstack.org/238138 | 16:32 |
| clarkb | (it occured to me that we have to update 26 hosts and this is why we have an ansible) | 16:32 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: found http://paste.ubuntu.com/12886767/ in image build logs from yesterday - is that just periodic git mirror derping? | 16:33 |
| greghaynes | huh. or do they not have a master branch | 16:34 |
| greghaynes | they do not | 16:34 |
| greghaynes | lol | 16:34 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: did it break our build? | 16:35 |
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| clarkb | in other news stop trying to kill the master branch | 16:36 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: yea, our source-repositories generation thing needs to specify not master for that branch | 16:36 |
| greghaynes | or that project needs a master branch | 16:36 |
| openstackgerrit | sebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid-resources: Summit Application API https://review.openstack.org/221964 | 16:36 |
| greghaynes | or we should not cache that project | 16:36 |
| clarkb | fungi: opinions on giving that project a master branch? | 16:36 |
| clarkb | not having a master branch breaks gerrit replication | 16:36 |
| clarkb | so its not really an optional thing imo | 16:36 |
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| greghaynes | Actually, I think either we should give them master of just stop caching them - its useless caching them unless we pull down the branch they are going to use | 16:36 |
| fungi | ahh, yep, so i did confirm that manage-projects did not break on import of repos with no master branch now (it used to) but didn't think to check whether our image builds would rely on there being a master branch | 16:37 |
| clarkb | gah HEAD is even master in gerrit | 16:37 |
| clarkb | so its just broken | 16:37 |
| AJaeger | what deb-openstack-pkg-tools does not have a master branch? ARgh ;( | 16:37 |
| AJaeger | Never expected something like that - I reviewed the repo but did not check *that* ;( | 16:37 |
| clarkb | but its the replication of HEAD that breaks when you delete master | 16:37 |
| clarkb | because git push won't update HEAD | 16:37 |
| fungi | AJaeger: yep, i was asking mordred about that one in here yesterday. i guess i should have left a warning on the review | 16:37 |
| clarkb | so in this case HEAD is just broken, but would be broken even if it was attempted to be fixed | 16:38 |
| AJaeger | fungi: blocking the change would have been great... | 16:38 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: well, we didn't have any policy saying it's required, so no idea if we just expected that to be common sense or what | 16:39 |
| clarkb | I am happy to just give them a master branch to fix HEAD >_> | 16:39 |
| fungi | same | 16:39 |
| clarkb | fungi: its a gerrit requirement due to replication | 16:39 |
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| fungi | great point | 16:39 |
| clarkb | if you change HEAD in gerrit none of your replicas will get HEAD updated | 16:39 |
| clarkb | and since git/gerrit default HEAD to master you are sort of stuck to that | 16:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed openstack-infra/gerritlib: Fix listPlugins method https://review.openstack.org/238159 | 16:40 |
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| greghaynes | \O/ it wasnt the dib release that broke dib image builds | 16:40 |
| fungi | i think debianistas are allergic to having "master" branches in their git repos because they want to avoid having any branch names that might conflict with upstream branch names | 16:40 |
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| clarkb | fungi: well they should not use git then? | 16:41 |
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| clarkb | its basically a git requirement | 16:41 |
| fungi | though particularly in the case of this repo it's unfounded since this is a repo for a tool, not packaging metadata | 16:41 |
| clarkb | now if git could update HEAD between bare repos... | 16:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Install IPA in a virtual enviroment https://review.openstack.org/235843 | 16:42 |
| fungi | and yeah, there are ways to make a sane git-based packaging workflow even if you have some branches named the same thing as your upstreams | 16:42 |
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| fungi | but not all distro package maintainers are git durus either | 16:43 |
| fungi | s/durus/gurus/ | 16:43 |
| clarkb | so what do we think? forced master to fix HEAD, or just send email and blacklist that project in image builds, or? | 16:44 |
| fungi | create an empty master branch | 16:44 |
| clarkb | fungi: based on the 0 commit? | 16:44 |
| fungi | yeah | 16:44 |
| clarkb | hrm will that even work? | 16:44 |
| clarkb | we shall find out | 16:44 |
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| greghaynes | fungi: Any idea when that project add commit went in? I'm curious if there are potentially other projects that might also be missing master which we wont find until tomorrows image build | 16:45 |
| fungi | and make our git import validator job check for missing master branch in the future | 16:45 |
| fungi | greghaynes: in the last 12 hours or so | 16:45 |
| clarkb | we have a git import validator job? | 16:45 |
| greghaynes | ah, ok | 16:45 |
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| fungi | clarkb: yeah, there's a job that checks the git url can be cloned | 16:45 |
| clarkb | 0000000 is an invalid version | 16:45 |
| fungi | grrr | 16:45 |
| clarkb | so says gerrit at least | 16:45 |
| fungi | git checkout --orphan master | 16:46 |
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| fungi | maybe? | 16:46 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: when you get a chance can you enable puppet on health.o.o? we've got a couple commits coming in soon that'll be good to get on the server | 16:46 |
| fungi | and then clear out all files in the work tree | 16:46 |
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| clarkb | or just base it on the existing branch | 16:47 |
| fungi | --orphan requires git 1.7.2 | 16:47 |
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| clarkb | and the project can change that with a code review if they choose | 16:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Update gerrit javamelody plugin builds https://review.openstack.org/236035 | 16:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Add heat support https://review.openstack.org/151900 | 16:50 |
| fungi | nibalizer: you were the one who launched health.o.o yesterday, right? just wanted to call your attention to the ssh host key step documented at http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/system-config/tree/launch/README#n53 | 16:50 |
| fungi | ahh, yep that's what mtreinish was just pinging you about too | 16:51 |
| mtreinish | fungi: heh, I wasn't gonna let him off the hook that easily :) | 16:52 |
| mtreinish | yolanda: if you get another sec it looks like the db connection dropped again on health.o.o, the patch to log the tracebacks should be in place now | 16:54 |
| mtreinish | just want to confirm the issue is what I think it is | 16:54 |
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| clarkb | mtreinish: if we didnt apply our non default mysql config to the trove db then it has a 1 minute connectio ntimeout (or somehting small like that) | 16:55 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: you can either fix this by reconnecting aggressively or we can update the config and reboot the server | 16:55 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what's going on | 16:55 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: I have a patch up to try and do the reconnection stuff: https://review.openstack.org/238118 | 16:56 |
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| clarkb | mtreinish: assuming a reboot won't be the end of the world we can update the config fairly easily as well | 16:56 |
| nibalizer | clarkb: cool | 16:56 |
| nibalizer | fungi: ah, i thought id done that | 16:57 |
| nibalizer | oh well | 16:57 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: I don't think a reboot would be the end of the world | 16:57 |
| fungi | mtreinish: supposedly sqlalchemy will call mysql ping with reconnect enabled in the background. i haven't looked closely at your project to see if you're using it though | 16:57 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: the last network outage caught some issues with reconnection on the gearman worker | 16:58 |
| fungi | basically it's supposed to catch a disconnected socket, reconnect and retry any query | 16:58 |
| mtreinish | but those should be fixed now | 16:58 |
| mtreinish | fungi: it should, but if I read the docs correctly it doesn't do that by default | 16:58 |
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| fungi | oh, grumble | 16:58 |
| fungi | i must have misread the sqla docs in that case | 16:59 |
| mtreinish | I could have been reading the wrong section (or misread something) | 16:59 |
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| fungi | i trust your reading of it better than mine. i'm notoriously terrible at databasing | 16:59 |
| mtreinish | fungi: heh, I am too | 17:00 |
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| fungi | clarkb: AJaeger: i misremembered. seems like project-config:tools/check_valid_gerrit_projects.py just validates the allowed url schemes but doesn't actually clone. i guess that's a potential improvement which would open the door to things like checking for a master branch | 17:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed openstack-infra/gerritlib: Fix listPlugins method https://review.openstack.org/238159 | 17:00 |
| mtreinish | fungi: the thing is it drops the connection now and doesn't reconnect | 17:00 |
| mtreinish | fungi: and our usage is pretty much the default: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-health/tree/openstack_health/api.py#n42 | 17:01 |
| fungi | mtreinish: yep, i was probably mistaken about reconnect being enabled by default in sqla | 17:01 |
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| SpamapS | olaph: hey, so as we were discussing elsewhere.. I think your talents would be useful helping with infra-cloud | 17:02 |
| SpamapS | crinkle: ^^ | 17:02 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: ^ | 17:02 |
| asselin | yolanda, I'm tying to make the system-config changes to move nodepool out. however I'm running into an issue wrt nodepool.logging.conf. https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/puppet-nodepool/tree/manifests/init.pp#n35 | 17:03 |
| SpamapS | olaph: I believe right now what is needed is to build an image that configures veths and vlans statically-ish, and then tell bifrost to put the box's IP on the appropriate statically configured veth | 17:03 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: ^ ? | 17:03 |
| SpamapS | crinkle: ^ ? | 17:03 |
| asselin | yolanda, https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/system-config/tree/modules/openstack_project/manifests/nodepool_prod.pp#n8 | 17:04 |
| SpamapS | pabelanger: also, how's your schedule for today? Could we maybe sync up on a voice call in about an hour? | 17:04 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: Yep, accurate summary | 17:04 |
| SpamapS | olaph: you too? | 17:04 |
| SpamapS | all of you | 17:04 |
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| SpamapS | greghaynes: I feel like we need to parallelize and get some progress | 17:04 |
| olaph | works for me | 17:04 |
| SpamapS | especially since I'm giving a vbrownbag talk about infra-cloud next week ;) | 17:04 |
| greghaynes | sure, I am mostly getting ready to fly out to tokyo tomorrow today, but I could chat for a bit | 17:04 |
| greghaynes | Yea, for me I just havent had any time to work in infra-cloud the past weekish | 17:05 |
| greghaynes | and probably wont until post-summit | 17:05 |
| SpamapS | Yeah I'm doing similar stuff greg.. dotting I's and crossing T's and making sure I have a backup CC with a chip | 17:05 |
| fungi | olaph: speaking of next week, do we get to see you in tokyo? | 17:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Enable mod_cache to do API server side caching https://review.openstack.org/236173 | 17:05 |
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| olaph | fungi: indeed! | 17:06 |
| timrc | SpamapS: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/10/how-a-criminal-ring-defeated-the-secure-chip-and-pin-credit-cards/ | 17:06 |
| fungi | olaph: perfect! | 17:06 |
| AJaeger | fungi, let me see what I can do... | 17:07 |
| SpamapS | timrc: good article. That doesn't change that everybody requires them. :-/ | 17:07 |
| timrc | waynr: Are you going to the summit next week? I'd love to talk github integration with zuul. | 17:07 |
| SpamapS | timrc: bring on the bitcoin, I say. | 17:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed openstack-infra/gerritlib: Allow getPlugins to accept a format https://review.openstack.org/238159 | 17:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Install IPA in a virtual enviroment https://review.openstack.org/235843 | 17:08 |
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| zaro | 3morning | 17:09 |
| yolanda | mtreinish http://paste.openstack.org/show/477059/ | 17:10 |
| greghaynes | FWIW I used a non-chip card for ATM withdrawls in tokyo less than a year ago and it worked just fine | 17:10 |
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| SpamapS | greghaynes: ATM's are less stringent than CC's | 17:10 |
| greghaynes | Yea, I really had no luck getting people to accept CC's ;) | 17:10 |
| yolanda | asselin, what's the issue? | 17:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Allow passing in nodepool logging template. https://review.openstack.org/238172 | 17:11 |
| ddieterly | is there any documentation on how to integrate tempest tests in devstack for a gate? | 17:11 |
| asselin | yolanda, ^^ but I wonder if it should be part of project-config | 17:11 |
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| yolanda | asselin, i see it uses image_log_document_root parameter, how do you plan to replace it on project-config? | 17:13 |
| asselin | yolanda, well it could be hard-coded there | 17:14 |
| asselin | yolanda, I don't want to open up a can of worms though :) | 17:14 |
| yolanda | asselin, and how that will apply to third party ci, that uses different settings? | 17:14 |
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| fungi | ddieterly: you mean like plug extra tests into tempest? | 17:15 |
| asselin | yolanda, 3rd party ci uses the defaults afaik | 17:15 |
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| yolanda | asselin, but what about the downstream users? | 17:15 |
| fungi | ddieterly: the #openstack-qa channel is likely to net you better answers on tempest pluggability, if so | 17:15 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: with ansible var_prompt that runs before any tasks or is it in order as written? | 17:18 |
| pabelanger | fungi: looks like grafyaml updated on grafana.o.o, do you mind confirming --version works? | 17:18 |
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| ddieterly | fungi: no, i mean create a gate with tempest tests for monasca | 17:21 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: however, still on Exec registered on puppetdb for install or update command | 17:21 |
| fungi | ddieterly: that sounds like the same thing to me (run tempest with your own set of tests) | 17:21 |
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| ddieterly | fungi: ok, so then #openstack-qa is the place to ask? | 17:22 |
| mtreinish | fungi: it sounds to me more like a jjb question | 17:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/grafyaml: Remove unused oslo_config settings https://review.openstack.org/238178 | 17:23 |
| pabelanger | SpamapS: sure. I have some spare time in about hour | 17:23 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: could you do a 30m call at 11:30? (you and I have a different call at 12:00) | 17:24 |
| SpamapS | crinkle: and are you around today? | 17:24 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: Sure | 17:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/grafyaml: Pass package name to VersionInfo (part 2) https://review.openstack.org/238179 | 17:25 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: uhhh, no idea | 17:25 |
| fungi | pabelanger: ^ | 17:25 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: My guess would be before, otherwise it isnt really useful | 17:26 |
| fungi | ddieterly: mtreinish: i don't know off the top of my head how other projects call their own tempest tests in job definitions, but looking at the current corpus of jobs will likely yield multiple examples | 17:26 |
| pabelanger | fungi: GAhh. | 17:27 |
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| mtreinish | fungi: you just install your tempest plugin as part of devstack and call tox -eall-plugin -- regex_for_tests | 17:27 |
| mtreinish | fungi, ddieterly: manila is probably a good example to look at | 17:27 |
| fungi | pabelanger: that said, it's likely saned to refactor out the other call to VersionInfo and just grab the one being set there in the init | 17:28 |
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| fungi | er, saner | 17:28 |
| ddieterly | mtreinish: yea, i've been looking at manila | 17:28 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: indeed. That is just ugly now :) | 17:29 |
| pabelanger | fungi: not sure why I did that | 17:29 |
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| warpc | Please review: https://review.openstack.org/237660 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237657/ | 17:29 |
| ddieterly | i guess the hard part seems to be setting up a way to iterate and test that the gate and the tempest tests are working | 17:29 |
| fungi | pabelanger: seems redundant to call it in version.py when it's already carted around in grafana_dashboards itself | 17:29 |
| pabelanger | fungi: yup | 17:29 |
| pabelanger | agree | 17:29 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: Ah, I know why. It was done by cookiecutter... and never noticed it until now | 17:30 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: will refactor shortly | 17:30 |
| crinkle | SpamapS: yes i am around | 17:30 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: in that case, a patch to fix the cookiecutter repo(s) would be a great addition so nobody else suffers the same redundancy in the future | 17:30 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: Right. I'll check it out and see how to better deal with it | 17:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Schultz proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enabled python27 and pep8 gates and fixed checks for Fuel repos https://review.openstack.org/236068 | 17:31 |
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| ddieterly | mtreinish: is all the tempest machinary installed in devstack by default? | 17:31 |
| mtreinish | ddieterly: yes | 17:31 |
| SpamapS | pabelanger: have you used the infra SIP interface before? | 17:31 |
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| SpamapS | we had a successful chat on that a few months ago :) | 17:32 |
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| pabelanger | SpamapS: yup, help set it up :) | 17:32 |
| fungi | ddieterly: one solution is to start with a job which basically runs no (or a limited set of very simple/dummy) tempest tests and then you can propose additional tests to your project and make sure that job still succeeds before they're merged | 17:32 |
| SpamapS | pabelanger: awesome | 17:32 |
| SpamapS | olaph: how about you? got SIP? | 17:32 |
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| ddieterly | fungi: ok, but i still need to submit changes to the project-config repo, right? | 17:33 |
| ddieterly | so, i need to get project-config changed to run the tempest tests, then start adding tempest tests to my actual project | 17:34 |
| fungi | ddieterly: yep, so that's where copying the job definition for manila mtreinish recommended would probably do what you want | 17:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Enable mod_cache to do API server side caching https://review.openstack.org/236173 | 17:34 |
| olaph | SpamapS: I do not, but can still call in, right? | 17:35 |
| fungi | SpamapS: olaph: crinkle: considered https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Conferencing ? you can use phone or sip | 17:35 |
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| fungi | i just tested it with an arbitrary conference id and it's up and running fine | 17:35 |
| ddieterly | fungi: ok, so is there any documentation on how to create jobs and job templates in project-config? | 17:35 |
| SpamapS | olaph: yeah, POTS works well | 17:36 |
| SpamapS | fungi: thats what we'll use | 17:36 |
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| fungi | ddieterly: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/drivers.html#running-jobs-with-zuul http://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/jjb.html http://docs.openstack.org/infra/jenkins-job-builder/ | 17:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sridhar Ramaswamy proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add tacker docs and rtfd jobs https://review.openstack.org/237905 | 17:37 |
| SpamapS | Ok, so, we'll do a chat at that time to catch up and re-sync infra-cloud, as much to help me have the most current details and also so we can maybe be ready to make some side-by-side progress if we have 5 minutes together in Tokyo: crinkle greghaynes olaph pabelanger -- 18:30 UTC in Conference #7000 | 17:37 |
| SpamapS | anyone else is welcome to join if they'd like to, it will be < 30m long. | 17:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed openstack-infra/puppet-gerrit: Reduce time to reindex Gerrit data https://review.openstack.org/238184 | 17:38 |
| fungi | i'll try to remember to dial in, just because i don't know as much about it as i should | 17:38 |
| SpamapS | fungi: indeed, joinusjoinusjoinus | 17:38 |
| ddieterly | fungi: thanks | 17:38 |
| fungi | i'll stay quiet, i promise ;) | 17:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Move nodepool.yaml from system-config to project-config https://review.openstack.org/233314 | 17:39 |
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| zaro | fungi, clarkb: gerrit reindex benchmark https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238184 | 17:40 |
| fungi | pabelanger: that second patch was actually the problem, and explains why it raised an exception any time you tried to run it even without calling --version | 17:40 |
| fungi | it was happening on module import | 17:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add ansible playbook to upgrade elasticsearch https://review.openstack.org/238185 | 17:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Migrate to puppet-openstackci openstackci::nodepool https://review.openstack.org/233315 | 17:41 |
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| clarkb | nibalizer: jesusaurus comments on 238185 appreciated | 17:41 |
| fungi | zaro: that's awesome. a reindex normally takes us ~10-15 minutes on review.o.o, so i bet it'll be way fast now by comparison | 17:42 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: jesusaurus but I think that covers the entir eprocess in an completely ontested but at least complete manner | 17:42 |
| fungi | zaro: can you propose a similar update to the rename process documented in the gerrit.rst file in system-config? | 17:42 |
| zaro | will do | 17:43 |
| crinkle | SpamapS: okay, I'll be there | 17:43 |
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| fungi | zaro: i'm excited. this could cut the outage for our rename maintenances in half, easily | 17:43 |
| nibalizer | would people be infuriated by a bot that looked for [0-9]{6} then put the link to the review? | 17:43 |
| fungi | nibalizer: it already exists and we asked its operator to unjoin the channel | 17:44 |
| pabelanger | SpamapS: sounds good | 17:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add echo test to asterisk https://review.openstack.org/238188 | 17:44 |
| nibalizer | fungi: ah okay | 17:44 |
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| pabelanger | russellb: ASTERISK HACKS! ^ | 17:45 |
| russellb | heh | 17:45 |
| * russellb reviews | 17:45 | |
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| fungi | nibalizer: though if it matched on something like 'review [0-9]\+[^0-9]?$' and also echoed the commit subject line and owner name that might be useful. i don't know | 17:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladimir Kozhukalov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create fuel-menu project https://review.openstack.org/235177 | 17:46 |
| russellb | pabelanger: +1 | 17:46 |
| fungi | nibalizer: more along the lines of how the bug feature in meetbot is working | 17:46 |
| pabelanger | russellb: wee | 17:46 |
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| pabelanger | SpamapS: if you are up for an asterisk review ^ | 17:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | mostwanted proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: [BUGFIX] Add missing "strExclusionSet" element when using "exclusionValues" https://review.openstack.org/236981 | 17:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Schultz proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enabled python27 and pep8 gates and fixed checks for Fuel repos https://review.openstack.org/236068 | 17:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vladimir Kozhukalov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create shotgun project https://review.openstack.org/235355 | 17:48 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: fungi I personally take the view that having noisy bots is ok becuas eevery irc client has ignore options | 17:49 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: fungi but I know that many users find that extra requirement on their part to do irc too much overhead or may not realize it is an option | 17:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Update command for a Gerrit reindex https://review.openstack.org/238193 | 17:50 |
| zaro | fungi: ^ | 17:50 |
| fungi | thanks zaro | 17:50 |
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| nibalizer | clarkb: ya and we're trying to get more people in irc, not less | 17:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vladimir Kozhukalov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create shotgun project https://review.openstack.org/235355 | 17:51 |
| nibalizer | I think i might have a solution for my needs though. I bookmarked https://review.openstack.org/#/c/ and so pasting in the number is fast | 17:52 |
| nibalizer | i'll try this for a while and see | 17:52 |
| fungi | nibalizer: you can just make that https://review.openstack.org/ | 17:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vladimir Kozhukalov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create fuel-menu project https://review.openstack.org/235177 | 17:52 |
| fungi | gerrit groks https://review.openstack.org/NNNNNN fine | 17:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vladimir Kozhukalov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create network-checker project https://review.openstack.org/235822 | 17:53 |
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| reed | ImportError: No module named oslo_utils (full trace http://paste.openstack.org/show/477064/) << brand new machine, I've just installed shade | 17:55 |
| pabelanger | timrc: do you mind reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237373/ too? This fixes a race in our unit tests with the cache | 17:55 |
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| pabelanger | timrc: will also review your comments | 17:56 |
| reed | bad pip package for shade or cinder client? | 17:56 |
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| timrc | pabelanger: Sure. | 17:57 |
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| clarkb | reed: my guess would be keystoneclient | 17:57 |
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| clarkb | reed: if it imports oslo_utils it should depend on it, but maybe the install failed? | 17:57 |
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| reed | clarkb, there were no errors on `pip install shade` so I don't know | 17:58 |
| clarkb | reed: does pip list should an oslo_utils package? | 17:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/grafyaml: Pass package name to VersionInfo (part 2) https://review.openstack.org/238179 | 17:59 |
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| reed | clarkb, no oslo anything | 17:59 |
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| sdague | clarkb: yeh, http://logs.openstack.org/01/236901/7/check/gate-grenade-dsvm/fb9cf5f/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz#_2015-10-21_14_18_38_956 is one of them | 18:01 |
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| clarkb | reed: rae you sure something like the lxml build didn't fail? | 18:02 |
| clarkb | reed: I am instlaling locally and its doing that and I know I trip over it all the time | 18:02 |
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| reed | clarkb, i have the recording of the install session :) | 18:02 |
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| clarkb | reed: I do get oslo.utils installed | 18:02 |
| clarkb | when I intsall to a clean virtuaelnv | 18:02 |
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| reed | clarkb, something else may have happened then... let me start a new vm and try again | 18:03 |
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| AJaeger | fungi, check http://paste.openstack.org/show/477066/ | 18:04 |
| pabelanger | fungi: do you mind checking grafana.o.o yet again? :) | 18:04 |
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| pabelanger | Finally! | 18:07 |
| pabelanger | http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/zuul-status | 18:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Vanderwiel proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add heat lbaas specific test for v1 and v2 https://review.openstack.org/237156 | 18:07 |
| reed | clarkb, https://asciinema.org/a/28505 << before this was recorded, I had a failed install but I uninstalled shade, fixed the missing dependency (python-dev package) and installed shade again | 18:08 |
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| timrc | pabelanger: I look at the embedded md5 hash review later today. | 18:08 |
| timrc | I'll* | 18:08 |
| pabelanger | timrc: sure | 18:08 |
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| pabelanger | timrc: I think the unit tests is the first one, then datasource. I need to finish tests for that | 18:10 |
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| reed | clarkb, and you're right... that damn lxml thing failed | 18:11 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: the scales on that look wrong | 18:11 |
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| clarkb | pabelanger: we peak at 31 test nodes? | 18:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Check for valid upstream git projects https://review.openstack.org/238196 | 18:12 |
| timrc | pabelanger: Embedding the md5sum in a hidden row title is pretty clever. I'll give you that :) | 18:12 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: Yes, it is just dummy data ATM | 18:12 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: need to add datasource | 18:13 |
| timrc | The things we do for yaml :) | 18:13 |
| AJaeger | fungi, clarkb, the missing master will be found by my new check, see the paste above | 18:13 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: oh gotha | 18:13 |
| fungi | pabelanger: i assume from your exasperated sigh that you don't need me to check grafana.o.o? | 18:13 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: we can do it manually if you like, otherwise have an patchset for yaml shortly | 18:13 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: cool I will hav eto review | 18:13 |
| pabelanger | fungi: indeed. However, I still don't know why puppetdb doesn't list the Exec for it | 18:13 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: run it locally with current state to see it fail | 18:14 |
| fungi | pabelanger: not sure either. there's an option to make the exec stdout appear in the log though | 18:14 |
| pabelanger | fungi: Ya, I should research it more | 18:14 |
| pabelanger | fungi: other wise, we don't see failures for some reason | 18:15 |
| fungi | AJaeger: neat! and i think as long as we're merging the cleanup patches regularly there won't be that many so it's not necessry to filter down to just remotes added in that particular change | 18:16 |
| AJaeger | fungi: exactly | 18:16 |
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| sdague | fungi: how do you feel about this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236901/ - a simpler way to handle the cache file population in d-g that we're less likely to accidentally break | 18:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Check for valid upstream git projects https://review.openstack.org/238196 | 18:17 |
| * AJaeger added fungi's comment to the review message and removed a debug line | 18:18 | |
| fungi | sdague: looks like a great idea | 18:19 |
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| clarkb | AJaeger: what was the reason for excluding track upstreams? just because we don't delete the upstream key from the yaml file onthose? | 18:20 |
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| fungi | seems like a fine optimization to me, and they're a corner case anyway | 18:21 |
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| clarkb | AJaeger: my only suggestion would be to consider using a tmpdir fixture to clone into so that the cleanup is handled automagically | 18:22 |
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| clarkb | that way if clone raises we don't end up with half cloned repo | 18:22 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: yes, agree with fungi - don't want to checkout gerrit each time. | 18:22 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: will do.. | 18:22 |
| reed | clarkb, if pip install shade fails because it's missing the libxml stuff... why does it say 'already installed' when I try to install after putting the libxml stuff? | 18:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Use ironic-agent for source-repositories https://review.openstack.org/233088 | 18:23 |
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| clarkb | reed: because pip doesn't know that the previous install failed | 18:23 |
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| reed | looks incredibly delicate | 18:24 |
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| clarkb | reed: try pip install --force-reinstall | 18:24 |
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| reed | thanks clarkb | 18:25 |
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| nibalizer | clarkb: the ansible playbooks looks reasonable to me | 18:26 |
| nibalizer | I'm not sure how we test it | 18:26 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: in production | 18:26 |
| nibalizer | ofc | 18:26 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: actually I think we might break that playbook into many playbooks and run each step at a time to get comfortable with it | 18:27 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: we can basically test everything but the ES upgrade itself safely | 18:27 |
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| clarkb | nibalizer: but the ES upgrade requires us to go all in due to how ES upgrades work so hard to get around that | 18:27 |
| nibalizer | ya a playbook just to turn off elasticsearch globally | 18:27 |
| nibalizer | would be useful | 18:27 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: ya | 18:28 |
| clarkb | I think its easier t oreview in a single document beause the process flows | 18:28 |
| clarkb | so started there (was easier to write too) | 18:28 |
| nibalizer | ya | 18:28 |
| nibalizer | i like the vars_prompt pause hack too | 18:28 |
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| nibalizer | pabelanger: did your grafyaml stuff get fixed up? | 18:30 |
| pabelanger | nibalizer: I did, some puppet quarks however | 18:30 |
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| nibalizer | ok | 18:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Check for valid upstream git projects https://review.openstack.org/238196 | 18:35 |
| SpamapS | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000175 | 18:36 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: hope it's fine now ^ | 18:36 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: note that the test is expected to fail - since we have the broken repo in it. Should be fine after removing it ;) | 18:37 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: failing upfront is good shows that it works :) | 18:37 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: indeed, it shows that it catches the error it should catch | 18:38 |
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| clarkb | AJaeger: oh I was suggesting that you use the python-fixtures manager that already does the tmpdir stuff | 18:38 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: not sure if that simplifies the code much | 18:38 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: let me learn about that one... | 18:39 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: we use it in testing a lot but its a generally useful pattern for tempdir use | 18:39 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb: do you have a nice example? | 18:41 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: I think the pypi page has an example let me look | 18:42 |
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| clarkb | AJaeger: you would do with fixtures.TempDir() as tmpdir: repo.clone(upstream, os.path.join(tmpdir.path, 'repo')) | 18:44 |
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| mordred | \o/ jetlag! | 18:44 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: then when you exit that context tmpdir is cleaned up for you | 18:44 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: its just a little les scode but introduces a dependency, up to you if you want to change the code | 18:45 |
| jesusaurus | clarkb: looks like you forgot the elasticsearch node runnnig on logstash.o.o in 238185 | 18:45 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/fixtures/1.4.0 | 18:45 |
| clarkb | jesusaurus: there isn't one | 18:45 |
| mordred | reed: we're also working on getting the need for libxml removed from shade's deps | 18:45 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: let's leave it as is for now | 18:46 |
| clarkb | jesusaurus: we proxy to the cluster and don't run a client process there | 18:46 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: ok | 18:46 |
| reed | mordred, nobody likes xml anyway :) | 18:46 |
| nibalizer | zaro: comment on 238184 | 18:46 |
| mordred | reed: nope :) | 18:46 |
| AJaeger | thanks, clarkb for the explanation | 18:46 |
| jesusaurus | clarkb: oh, huh, I guess I was confused by the discover_node getting passed around | 18:47 |
| clarkb | jesusaurus: we use that to know where to proxy to | 18:47 |
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| mordred | reed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234979/ is the current thing that pulls it in | 18:48 |
| mordred | reed: I landed a patch to remove it from ironicclient, but ironicclient has not yet made a new release | 18:48 |
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| clarkb | jesusaurus: however, we should consider running one there so that it can load balance across all of the cluster memers. Right now elasticsearch02 gets all the search queries | 18:49 |
| reed | mordred, ACK | 18:49 |
| anteaya | mordred: drinks which are supposed to address jetlag have a lot of pycnogenol in them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condensed_tannin | 18:49 |
| anteaya | mordred: and happy jetlag to you | 18:49 |
| anteaya | SpamapS: did you happen to record the asterisk call about infra-cloud? | 18:50 |
| anteaya | fsantoro: wonderful write up, thank you! | 18:51 |
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| jesusaurus | clarkb: yeah, I'm doing that in my deployment, but it looks like its managed by the top-level module and not puppet-logstash or puppet-kibana | 18:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add Project Marshal https://review.openstack.org/234530 | 18:56 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: nibalizer: did we manage to determine why health.o.o was not working? | 18:57 |
| nibalizer | clarkb: I didn't contrirbute anything | 18:57 |
| nibalizer | but health.o.o/tests does return | 18:57 |
| nibalizer | so it seems to be working now | 18:57 |
| mgagne | So I installed zuul and I'm trying to setup the web interface. status.json looks to not work, the call never return, even with 'curl http://localhost:8001/status.json'. Is there a way for me to debug further? there is nothing in logs/debug | 18:57 |
| * clarkb looks | 18:57 | |
| clarkb | nibalizer: neat. | 18:57 |
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| nibalizer | mtreinish: said that / getting an error is expect | 18:57 |
| nibalizer | ed | 18:57 |
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| clarkb | mtreinish: is the next step to host the js out of the root location so we can render things? | 18:57 |
| clarkb | mgagne: is zuul listening at that location? | 18:58 |
| mgagne | yep | 18:58 |
| mgagne | clarkb: listening to 0.0.0.0:8001 | 18:59 |
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| clarkb | mgagne: and what version of zuul? HEAD? | 18:59 |
| mordred | anteaya: thanks! | 18:59 |
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| mgagne | clarkb: zuul==2.1.1.dev64 | 18:59 |
| mgagne | clarkb: so yea, from master | 18:59 |
| clarkb | ok that looks like head and we are running head | 19:00 |
| greghaynes | fungi: hey, so on that call there was definitely some audio chop - I think that was coming from the pbx server? Normally not a big deal but I worry we might try and use it at the summit... | 19:00 |
| mgagne | clarkb: great news I guess :D | 19:00 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: yep: https://review.openstack.org/236165 | 19:00 |
| fungi | greghaynes: agreed, it seemed like it was sip users cutting out | 19:00 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: as for the not working, pretty sure it's just db connection cutting out | 19:01 |
| greghaynes | Ah, yep, Did I not have that issue at all? | 19:01 |
| greghaynes | I was dialed in using POTS | 19:01 |
| mtreinish | I've got a patch in progress to recycle the conncetions | 19:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Test networking-bgpvpn master vs. stable/liberty https://review.openstack.org/233703 | 19:01 |
| mgagne | clarkb: do I need a complete layout.yaml or is a basic one enough? | 19:01 |
| fungi | greghaynes: it was mainly SpamapS who seemed to cut out, but then again he likes to talk more than the rest of us ;_ | 19:01 |
| anteaya | is the call finished? | 19:01 |
| anteaya | I just dialed in, and hear nothing | 19:01 |
| clarkb | mgagne: I think you will need a functional one | 19:01 |
| fungi | greghaynes: i was pots as well (well, cell phone) | 19:01 |
| clarkb | mgagne: I am reading the webapp.py code and its just a basic wsgi server | 19:02 |
| fungi | anteaya: yeah, it was 18:30-19:00 | 19:02 |
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| anteaya | okay | 19:02 |
| anteaya | any recording? | 19:02 |
| SpamapS | lol | 19:02 |
| mgagne | clarkb: ok, bad layout.yaml. I copied the sample and it works now | 19:02 |
| anteaya | I was offline and just came back and read backscroll | 19:02 |
| clarkb | mgagne: ok | 19:02 |
| mgagne | clarkb: too bad there is no logs about bad layout... | 19:02 |
| SpamapS | fungi: I'll use pabelanger's echo service next time :) | 19:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add tacker docs and rtfd jobs https://review.openstack.org/237905 | 19:02 |
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| fungi | anteaya: i think we're still looking for someone to add a recording option for our asterisk | 19:03 |
| clarkb | mgagne: there shouldbe when it first starts and loads the layout | 19:03 |
| fungi | anteaya: though i think it would be a great idea | 19:03 |
| anteaya | fungi: okay, last time I used sip the sip client had that option | 19:03 |
| pabelanger | SpamapS: Ha ha, that's why I added it. I didn't know if my mic and speakers were going to work | 19:03 |
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| mgagne | clarkb: no much on that side, no ERROR or WARN | 19:03 |
| clarkb | mgagne: but I am not sure what you mean aobut bad layout, the yaml could be invalid, orthe data structure could not match up | 19:03 |
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| anteaya | fungi: I recorded it and then uploaded to afs | 19:03 |
| anteaya | when we had that running | 19:03 |
| SpamapS | pabelanger: I use the skype one on every new device I get | 19:03 |
| fungi | anteaya: oh, good point. we could get someone to be designated as the recorder for a call in the future | 19:03 |
| anteaya | thanks | 19:04 |
| clarkb | mgagne: there is a layoutvalidator to catch many of these issues and it does run at load iirc | 19:04 |
| pabelanger | We could default the recording on, and just publish by default some place | 19:04 |
| clarkb | mgagne: yup validator.validate(data) | 19:04 |
| pabelanger | to avoid toggling the recording | 19:04 |
| fungi | pabelanger: is that already a feature? | 19:04 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: well I did ask everyone in the room before I recorded | 19:04 |
| clarkb | mgagne: so more info on what was wrong with the layout file would probably help | 19:04 |
| fungi | and i just don't know about it i guess? | 19:04 |
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| mgagne | clarkb: zuul.Scheduler: Performing reconfiguration and no more details after that. With a "valid" layout, I get the actual config output to logs. So my guess is it's jamming somewhere | 19:04 |
| pabelanger | fungi: yes, easy to do | 19:04 |
| anteaya | as different countries have different privacy rules | 19:04 |
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| pabelanger | just dialplan update | 19:04 |
| mgagne | clarkb: yea, I'll have to dig more on that | 19:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Hallisey proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Add Docker job to tripleo CI https://review.openstack.org/238212 | 19:05 |
| pabelanger | we can plan a join message about it being recorded | 19:05 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: could we add a sentence to the voice you get when you dial in asking for a conference number to tell people they will be recorded? | 19:05 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: ah okay great, yeah | 19:05 |
| pabelanger | or, have dedicated rooms that record and unrecord | 19:05 |
| anteaya | no I think the message would address consent | 19:05 |
| anteaya | which is my concern | 19:06 |
| pabelanger | 7050-7099 record by default or something | 19:06 |
| reed | mordred, wow! new shade gives me a public IPv4 on dreamcompute magically, no questions asked ... magic | 19:06 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: well that could work, and the message too? | 19:06 |
| fungi | reed: shade is dark magic | 19:06 |
| reed | mordred, this means that the documentation we just wrote is already old :) | 19:06 |
| pabelanger | anteaya: yes, recording can be added | 19:06 |
| pabelanger | not to hard to do | 19:06 |
| fungi | reed: hopefully it means you can just delete part of the documentation? | 19:06 |
| reed | pretty good stuff, good job | 19:06 |
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| reed | fungi, I wish it was that simple ... | 19:07 |
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| fungi | oh, too bad | 19:07 |
| reed | fungi, I realized that the openstack faafo doc doesn't scale as the original writes wished | 19:07 |
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| reed | I'll have to talk to Tom about it in Tokyo | 19:07 |
| mgagne | clarkb: what's funny is that pid file was not created when I used my "invalid" layout | 19:08 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: where would the recordings be accessible for download? | 19:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Magnum: run functional test in liberty branch https://review.openstack.org/237798 | 19:08 |
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| reed | the document expects all SDKs to follow the same structure but some SDKs are easier than others and some steps for shade make no sense | 19:08 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: does asterisk take care of that too? | 19:08 |
| clarkb | mgagne: so it sounds like ti failed to properly daemonize so it noticed something was wrong | 19:08 |
| reed | I seem to remember that removing pieces from that doc require major rewrite | 19:08 |
| mgagne | clarkb: I forgot to include the projects section. that was my error | 19:09 |
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| mgagne | clarkb: problem is that daemon is "started" and just hanging there | 19:09 |
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| pabelanger | anteaya: no, we'd move them into a folder and server them via HTTP | 19:09 |
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| pabelanger | anteaya: or some other storage location | 19:09 |
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| mgagne | clarkb: anyway, I found my error, I'll just include validation in my recipes | 19:10 |
| clarkb | mgagne: v.Required('projects'): projects requires projects in the schema | 19:10 |
| clarkb | mgagne: ok, I would expect that the validator would log failures somewhere | 19:10 |
| mgagne | clarkb: sure but I don't have much logs about it | 19:10 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: okay | 19:10 |
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| clarkb | mgagne: yes I am trying to figure that out | 19:10 |
| mgagne | clarkb: no rush, I found my issue so I can move on. I thought I had something very wrong | 19:11 |
| clarkb | mgagne: if you grep for 'validate' in your logs do you see anything? | 19:11 |
| anteaya | is it just me or could this image tolerate a sharper resolution? https://www.openstack.org/assets/tokyo-summit/lunch-menus/OSTokyo-lunch-Tues.png | 19:11 |
| mgagne | clarkb: empty result | 19:11 |
| anteaya | oh and by the way, yay menus | 19:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Patrick East proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Pass zuul_revision through to zuul_scheduler class https://review.openstack.org/238216 | 19:11 |
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| mordred | reed: how about code sample sectoins for shade with just a comment saying "shade does not require this step" | 19:12 |
| mordred | :) | 19:12 |
| clarkb | mgagne: looks like its handled as an internal zuul event, I bet its not properly logging errors from that | 19:13 |
| clarkb | mgagne: probably worth filing a bug | 19:13 |
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| reed | mordred, I guess that's the quickest hack... | 19:13 |
| reed | the end document may not look as elegant but probably it's as effective | 19:13 |
| mordred | reed: but yeah, I'd love to talk to tom about that too - it also seems that the faafo assumes a particular openstack deployment (like is assumes floating ips) | 19:13 |
| mgagne | clarkb: already logged :O https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/1057471 | 19:14 |
| clarkb | mgagne: perfect, thanks | 19:14 |
| reed | mordred, indeed | 19:14 |
| mordred | of course, it's supposed to be simple and not expose all of openstack's warts - but if it assumes floating ips, it means it will not work on 3/4 of the public clouds | 19:14 |
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| nibalizer | what is faafo? | 19:14 |
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| clarkb | nibalizer: the first app documentation, not sure what the full acronym is for | 19:16 |
| anteaya | what is first app? | 19:16 |
| clarkb | mordred: greghaynes: if I wanted to reboot all my hosts in the iddle of a playbook will ansible hate me? | 19:16 |
| clarkb | anteaya: your first app on openstack | 19:16 |
| clarkb | its basically how to opnestack form the user perspective | 19:16 |
| mordred | clarkb: no- there's even a basic ansible function to wait for a port to be active | 19:16 |
| anteaya | oh okay | 19:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/grafyaml: Add datasource functionality https://review.openstack.org/194265 | 19:16 |
| AJaeger | anteaya: an example application that is used for a document, let me give you the URL... | 19:16 |
| mordred | clarkb: so you could issue the reboot as a task, then issue a "wait_for: port=22" | 19:16 |
| mordred | as the next task | 19:17 |
| clarkb | mordred: cool | 19:17 |
| AJaeger | anteaya: http://developer.openstack.org/firstapp-libcloud/ | 19:17 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: jesusaurus I am considering a reboot of the elasticsearch cluster too just for hygeine | 19:17 |
| mordred | clarkb: http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/wait_for_module.html | 19:17 |
| AJaeger | that's using libcloud, there're other variants as well... | 19:17 |
| jesusaurus | clarkb: makes sense | 19:17 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: this is the documentation labs repo, right? | 19:17 |
| reed | nibalizer, http://developer.openstack.org/draft/firstapp-shade/introduction.html | 19:17 |
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| mordred | yeah ^^ tha one | 19:17 |
| AJaeger | anteaya: no, completey different | 19:17 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: oh | 19:18 |
| nibalizer | clarkb: i like reboots, reboots make servers happy | 19:18 |
| mordred | the first-app shade one is the happy | 19:18 |
| AJaeger | faafo as app is in it's own repo, document is in api-site | 19:18 |
| reed | it's a demo application written by a team of volunteers to demonstrate what you can do with a cloud | 19:18 |
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| * mordred highly recommends not trying to use libcloud with openstack - it works very poorly in a broad sense | 19:18 | |
| reed | AJaeger is right | 19:18 |
| anteaya | reed: I thought documentation was doing that | 19:18 |
| AJaeger | anteaya: api-site is part of docs team | 19:19 |
| reed | anteaya, sure, there is a documentation component and then a demo application to play | 19:19 |
| clarkb | mordred: I probably need some additional delay since reboot will return before it reboots? | 19:19 |
| mordred | clarkb: yah | 19:19 |
| mordred | clarkb: might want to see if you can wait for posrt 22 to not work | 19:19 |
| nibalizer | reed: the stackforge url in that doc is out of date | 19:19 |
| mordred | reed: oh wait - your code has "auto_ip=False" - you're saying that with auto_ip=False shade still found you a public ip? | 19:20 |
| mordred | reed: becauseif that's the case, that's a bug | 19:20 |
| nibalizer | also boo for curl | bash | 19:20 |
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| reed | mordred, no, I tried Auto_ip=true | 19:20 |
| mordred | Shrews: ^^ btw - if you haven't seen the draft of the shade firstapp | 19:20 |
| anteaya | reed: okay thanks | 19:20 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: thats how you know its webscale | 19:20 |
| mordred | reed: ok. good. and that worked. yay! | 19:20 |
| reed | oh... wait... I am now remembering the discussion we had with Tom at the time | 19:21 |
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| AJaeger | nibalizer: patches against api-site repo are welcome | 19:21 |
| Shrews | mordred: firstapp? | 19:21 |
| reed | we probably already discussed this topic with him... and now I am repeating it because it still makes no sense to me :) ahahah | 19:21 |
| mordred | :) | 19:22 |
| reed | Shrews, http://developer.openstack.org/draft/firstapp-shade/introduction.html and http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/faafo/ | 19:22 |
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| mordred | nibalizer: honestly - curl https://site | bash isn't really any worse than pip install foo or gem install foo | 19:23 |
| AJaeger | mordred, anteaya: Could you review an infra manual patch to document "official projects" in the creator's guide: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237923/ , please? | 19:23 |
| nibalizer | AJaeger: on it | 19:23 |
| AJaeger | thanks, nibalizer. Will review tomorrow ;) | 19:23 |
| Shrews | reed: mordred: woo! | 19:23 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: thanks I tried to look at that this morning and got distracted | 19:23 |
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| * fungi is always distracted | 19:23 | |
| fungi | no idea how i get anything done | 19:23 |
| fungi | wait, do i get anything done? | 19:24 |
| AJaeger | anteaya: thanks - I just want to know whether that points in the right direction ;) | 19:24 |
| reed | fungi, random chaos works | 19:24 |
| fungi | so distracted i don't remember what i got done, if anything | 19:24 |
| AJaeger | fungi: you delegate and enable others to work ;) | 19:24 |
| fungi | thanks AJaeger. guess it's time to be put out to the manager pasture | 19:24 |
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| clarkb | mordred: so one thing I find really confusing about ansible docs is there is often no indication of where in a playbook I am supposed to use the thing | 19:25 |
| AJaeger | fungi: I wouldn't have done https://review.openstack.org/238196 without your side comment ;) | 19:25 |
| fungi | heh | 19:25 |
| fungi | <- idea man | 19:25 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: just wait until you start adding in roles | 19:25 |
| reed | speaking of ansible, is there an ETA for ansible2? | 19:25 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: its another level of the same issue | 19:25 |
| clarkb | mordred: for example is wait_for_module a task? or does it go at the same level as a task like vars_prompt? | 19:25 |
| clarkb | mordred: I currently have no idea and will probably have to write a test playbook to find out which makes the docs almost useless | 19:25 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: :( | 19:25 |
| nibalizer | AJaeger: reed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238218/ | 19:26 |
| nibalizer | mordred: fair | 19:26 |
| mordred | clarkb: it's a task | 19:26 |
| clarkb | mordred: thanks | 19:26 |
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| mordred | clarkb: or, it's a module, but you run modules in tasks, so, same thing | 19:27 |
| clarkb | mordred: ok thats not really explained anywhere as far as I can tell | 19:27 |
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| anteaya | AJaeger: it is the best next attempt | 19:27 |
| mordred | clarkb: https://github.com/dareko/ansible-rolling-reboot/blob/master/tasks/main.yml btw | 19:27 |
| reed | nibalizer, did you check if other samples have reference to stackforge? | 19:28 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: because folks have to prove that they adheare to the openstack way before being approved for inclusion in official projects, I think some folks have a hard time understanding that as a requirement | 19:28 |
| clarkb | mordred: well thats just extr aconfusing because that isn't a playbook and instead is a dir of tasks? | 19:28 |
| clarkb | mordred: :) | 19:28 |
| AJaeger | nibalizer: openstack-sdk-dotnet has been retired, it's still at stackforge. | 19:28 |
| clarkb | mordred: its ok puppet has the same language problem | 19:28 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: and docs won't change that if they don't have that paradigm when the arrived at the docs | 19:28 |
| mordred | clarkb: well, that human is a bad human | 19:28 |
| mordred | clarkb: he wrote a role | 19:28 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: but your docs are as clear to me as I think they can be | 19:29 |
| mordred | clarkb: but is still calling it a playbook | 19:29 |
| nibalizer | reed: i ran git-grep.. | 19:29 |
| nibalizer | so no I didn't look very hard | 19:29 |
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| clarkb | mordred: but I think I have what I need to make this work. btw did yo usee my upgrade elasticserach playbook? You should once I add in the reboot | 19:29 |
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| pabelanger | crinkle: so, just thinking about the puppet-mysql upgrade. I wonder if we should import the current version of puppetlabs-mysql into infra, do rename to puppet-db (or something), then do a phased migration into that. Once that is done, rev up mysql, then slowly port back modules to use it. Otherwise, I am unsure how to migrate all our modules to mysql without causing a massive roll out | 19:29 |
| pabelanger | will take longer, but likely safer route | 19:30 |
| mordred | clarkb: neaT!!! | 19:30 |
| mordred | clarkb: I'd been thinking that would be an excellent use for a playbook | 19:30 |
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| AJaeger | anteaya: yeah - thanks. | 19:31 |
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| crinkle | pabelanger: I think clarkb has thoughts on that, in theory most of what's currently using a local mysql db could be migrated to trove, and we could avoid the rename dance | 19:31 |
| clarkb | mordred: me too since there are ~26 machines that all need coordinated actions to happen | 19:31 |
| * AJaeger waves good-night.... | 19:31 | |
| crinkle | pabelanger: here's what i've found that touches puppet-mysql in some way https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-module-version-deltas | 19:31 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: night | 19:31 |
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| clarkb | hrm actually if I restart the ES service will start back up again | 19:32 |
| clarkb | so need to fix that too | 19:32 |
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| mordred | crinkle, pabelanger, clarkb: or we could make our own mysql cluster somewhere | 19:32 |
| crinkle | pabelanger: also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235005/ plus https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-stdlib/pull/537 could be helpful in migrating | 19:32 |
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| nibalizer | clarkb: pabelanger a lot of those are trove DBs right? so they could bee removed or marked | 19:33 |
| clarkb | yes only a couple are actually using that module | 19:33 |
| clarkb | the slaves, wiki, and paste iirc | 19:33 |
| mordred | but in either case, the idea that modules should not set up the database but instead should take the connection info for databases they consume I thnk its right on | 19:33 |
| mordred | and for those, even if we don't trove them | 19:33 |
| crinkle | nibalizer: some are using the module but only downstream users would be affected by breaking it | 19:33 |
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| mordred | we can make the changes in the module _like_ we trove them | 19:33 |
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| crinkle | mordred: ++ | 19:34 |
| waynr | timrc: I wish! Couldn't get $dayjob to sponsor the trip...same problem actually with continuing work on github/zuul integration, sadly as far as spare time projects go I have to choose between JJB and Zuul, and my interest/personal investment is in JJB 2.0 | 19:34 |
| mordred | and add a puppet-mysql resource in the openstack_project module for that server | 19:34 |
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| nibalizer | mordred: I don't follow | 19:34 |
| nibalizer | put a comment block like 'trove db goes here?' | 19:34 |
| clarkb | mordred: and in a playbook using a hosts: directive thing is the host parameter to wait_for implied from that? | 19:35 |
| pabelanger | okay, so it sounds like there are some ideas already brewing | 19:35 |
| crinkle | nibalizer: just have the config file for the app take connection data, then leave the actual db creation to something else, either openstack_project or trove | 19:35 |
| nibalizer | crinkle: ah cool | 19:36 |
| nibalizer | so 'not my problem' in the module, awesome | 19:36 |
| nibalizer | I also like the load_module_metadata approach | 19:36 |
| nibalizer | though that response from davidS is not stellar | 19:36 |
| crinkle | yeah :/ | 19:36 |
| nibalizer | I'd be okay with a git pin | 19:36 |
| nibalizer | or... I've thought several times this year about just using master on some of the modules | 19:37 |
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| crinkle | and this will be the story of how nibalizer broke -infra | 19:37 |
| nibalizer | but maybe thats risk without benefit | 19:37 |
| crinkle | :) | 19:37 |
| nibalizer | :) | 19:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add skip-if clauses for vpnaas jobs https://review.openstack.org/238221 | 19:40 |
| mordred | clarkb: no | 19:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add ansible playbook to upgrade elasticsearch https://review.openstack.org/238185 | 19:40 |
| clarkb | mordred: well ^ thats broken then | 19:40 |
| clarkb | mordred: that seems like an odd choice | 19:40 |
| mordred | clarkb: hosts: is where you want to run the tasks - host: is an optional argument to wait_for saying to check for a port being working on a host | 19:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack/requirements: keystonemiddleware 3.0.0 https://review.openstack.org/238222 | 19:41 |
| clarkb | mordred: so I probably need to ru nthis task on localhost as well? | 19:41 |
| clarkb | and have one of those terrible iterations across the es hosts? | 19:41 |
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| mordred | one sec | 19:41 |
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| mordred | clarkb: no - wait_for will actually execute on the host that you're running it on because it's special - but that's exactly to prevent the problem you're describing | 19:42 |
| mordred | clarkb: the list of tasks is "reboot this elastic search host" | 19:43 |
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| mordred | clarkb: and you want to run those on each elastic search host | 19:43 |
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| clarkb | mordred: yes | 19:43 |
| mordred | one of the tasks is waiting for the host to come back up | 19:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-httpd: Enable SNI on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS https://review.openstack.org/237181 | 19:43 |
| clarkb | mordred: but apparently I have to explicitly write the host value | 19:43 |
| clarkb | mordred: so its not getting that from the play | 19:43 |
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| mordred | oohhhh. blah | 19:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Switch Fedora 22 nodes to fedora-minimal build https://review.openstack.org/237389 | 19:43 |
| mordred | sorry - I'm still jetlagged | 19:43 |
| mordred | yes, you _do_ need to tell ansible to run the wait_for locally | 19:44 |
| mordred | https://github.com/dareko/ansible-rolling-reboot/blob/master/tasks/main.yml#L10 | 19:44 |
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| mordred | that tells it to run that task not on the host it's associated with | 19:44 |
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| clarkb | mordred: so I like examples but those examples only confuse me more | 19:45 |
| clarkb | because the data structure is completely different | 19:45 |
| clarkb | and makes no sense | 19:45 |
| mordred | clarkb: sure. so - one sec - lemme past a thine with your patch | 19:46 |
| clarkb | mordred: well I think i have it | 19:46 |
| pabelanger | mordred: agreed about breaking out mysql::server from modules and just using a connection string | 19:46 |
| clarkb | so let me push and yo ucan comment on it | 19:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/devstack-gate: use cp always instead of mv / cp logic https://review.openstack.org/236901 | 19:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Gandelman proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Set BRANCH_OVERRIDE to stable/liberty for akanda/astara https://review.openstack.org/238225 | 19:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add ansible playbook to upgrade elasticsearch https://review.openstack.org/238185 | 19:47 |
| clarkb | mordred: ^ how is that | 19:47 |
| adam_g | clarkb, https://review.openstack.org/238225 that should do it, right? | 19:48 |
| clarkb | adam_g: ya then when you move on you can either switch back to default or add new jobs to test both things | 19:49 |
| clarkb | adam_g: usually though you would just use default and have stable test against stable and master againts master | 19:49 |
| adam_g | clarkb, ya | 19:49 |
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| pabelanger | crinkle: Another option for the mysql issue, maybe do some dynamic --modulepath somehow, allowing both version of mysql to be installed to the localhost, but changing the path info when we call run_puppet.sh | 19:50 |
| pabelanger | crinkle: it doesn't fix the upgrade issue, but blocks infra-cloud for a bit | 19:50 |
| pabelanger | unblocks* | 19:50 |
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| crinkle | pabelanger: earlier iterations of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209617/ opened us up for that, but clarkb doesn't feel that's the right direction | 19:51 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: crinkle I thought we agreed to move forward with the split module set while we work to converging? | 19:51 |
| clarkb | I am not sure anyone should be blocked on anything | 19:51 |
| crinkle | clarkb: that was not my understanding | 19:51 |
| clarkb | crinkle: we had that large conversation in irc | 19:51 |
| crinkle | clarkb: i thought you wanted to use the converged module set | 19:51 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: TBH, I don't know the current plan. I am just offering to do the work :) | 19:51 |
| clarkb | and said "do this while we need to but also work on converging because the set is tiny" | 19:51 |
| pabelanger | so what people want, I'll step up and do | 19:51 |
| clarkb | crinkle: I do | 19:52 |
| clarkb | crinkle: but I am not saying you have to use the converged set today | 19:52 |
| crinkle | clarkb: okay I misunderstood then | 19:52 |
| crinkle | clarkb: thank you for clarifying | 19:52 |
| clarkb | no problem. my major concern is that once we have an infra cloud + other things using different modules then it becomes hard to make changes to the various bits that are shared | 19:53 |
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| clarkb | and since infra cloud is heavily in dev I think we can work convergence at the same time we work on having a cloud | 19:53 |
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| mordred | clarkb: http://paste.openstack.org/show/477075 | 19:53 |
| crinkle | clarkb: nibalizer had a patch that updated the puppet-apply job use the split module set, is that something you're okay with? | 19:53 |
| mordred | clarkb: oh - sorry - I was in another window making you a patch :) | 19:53 |
| mtreinish | mordred, fungi, nibalizer, clarkb: if you get a sec can you take a look at: https://review.openstack.org/236165 so we start hosting the dashboard js too | 19:54 |
| clarkb | crinkle: ya I suggested that we update the job to test both sets in the interim | 19:54 |
| nibalizer | mtreinish: is that safe to go now? | 19:54 |
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| adam_g | any other project-config ppl able to help get this trivial merged? ill buy you an asahi next week https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238225/ | 19:54 |
| nibalizer | I was about to ping you about it | 19:54 |
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| mtreinish | nibalizer: it should be | 19:54 |
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| clarkb | mordred: are you in a place where pushing a new patchset forks or should I do that? | 19:54 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: all the deps have landed for it at least | 19:55 |
| nibalizer | adam_g: i got you | 19:55 |
| mordred | clarkb: I can push a new patchset | 19:55 |
| mordred | if you wnat | 19:55 |
| mordred | clarkb: but also go ahead | 19:55 |
| clarkb | mordred: no no you made the edits you should get credit :) | 19:55 |
| mtreinish | adam_g: extra cold or regular? | 19:55 |
| fungi | adam_g: asahi is terrible stuff, donchaknow? | 19:55 |
| adam_g | mtreinish, super dry | 19:55 |
| clarkb | mordred: though does checksum need to double up the {{}}s? | 19:55 |
| clarkb | mordred: same thing with inventory_hostname | 19:56 |
| adam_g | fungi, theres really not much to chose from over there. | 19:56 |
| fungi | adam_g: sake | 19:56 |
| adam_g | fungi, beer-wise | 19:56 |
| mordred | clarkb: yes. thank you | 19:56 |
| adam_g | its eigher kirin, asahi, yibesu | 19:56 |
| fungi | adam_g: right, that's because they have sake ;) | 19:56 |
| adam_g | sapporo | 19:56 |
| mtreinish | adam_g: yeah asahi super dry, but they also have it extra cold too | 19:56 |
| nibalizer | mtreinish: okay lets see how it goes :) | 19:56 |
| fungi | adam_g: o' | 19:56 |
| fungi | er | 19:56 |
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| fungi | i'll usually do sapporo out of that lot | 19:56 |
| adam_g | hah offer free beer and you get 2x the +W | 19:57 |
| clarkb | mordred: oh also catting the sha1.txt has the filename in it too | 19:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add ansible playbook to upgrade elasticsearch https://review.openstack.org/238185 | 19:57 |
| clarkb | mordred: so that may not work as is | 19:57 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: cool thanks, I'll keep an eye on it | 19:57 |
| clarkb | mordred: and checksum is new in 2.0 | 19:57 |
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| mordred | clarkb: ah let's revert those change then | 19:58 |
| clarkb | mordred: kk, sorry was catching up on reading docs | 19:58 |
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| mtreinish | adam_g: for whatever reason having it served colder makes it better, or at least I thought it was better | 19:58 |
| crinkle | clarkb: my brain saw http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2015-10-06.log.html#t2015-10-06T20:33:02 and didn't make it to http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2015-10-06.log.html#t2015-10-06T20:37:25 sorry about the confusion | 19:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add ansible playbook to upgrade elasticsearch https://review.openstack.org/238185 | 19:59 |
| crinkle | nibalizer: did you make progress on http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2015-10-06.log.html#t2015-10-06T20:41:20 or is that something i or pabelanger should work on? | 20:00 |
| nibalizer | nope I didn't do that | 20:01 |
| nibalizer | yours https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226605/did land though | 20:01 |
| adam_g | mtreinish, http://no-carrier.net/~adam/osaka.jpg i seemed to have good luck finding picture-perfect mugs of beer like this last time i was there. | 20:02 |
| nibalizer | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226597/ is also where that went to | 20:02 |
| nibalizer | so I'm not sure why we don't just use two tests | 20:02 |
| pabelanger | crinkle: nibalizer: Ya, just let me know what you want me to do. Either here or some etherpad. Just getting up to speed on puppet work that needs to be done | 20:02 |
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| nibalizer | they are separate | 20:02 |
| anteaya | okay so foundation support was quick to reply, https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/menus/ has a pdf to download which has better resolution than the png images embedded in the page | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | Hello! Should I be asking in this channel about global-reqs patches? | 20:02 |
| nibalizer | seems like it makes sense to do it with two jobs not one job clarkb ? | 20:02 |
| anteaya | robcresswell: hi rob, you can start here, sure | 20:02 |
| mtreinish | adam_g: nice, that's got to take a lot of practice | 20:03 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: no because then it isn't self testing | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | Great! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231931/ Just wondering what the rough turnaround time is. This has been sitting since Oct 8th. | 20:03 |
| fungi | #success https://tarballs.openstack.org/ is now available in addition to http://tarballs.openstack.org/ | 20:03 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: generlaly if the question is do we need another job to do exactly what this existing job does I will say no :) | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | Thought it was about time to start pestering people :) | 20:03 |
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| anteaya | robcresswell: here is your list to pester: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/131,members | 20:04 |
| fungi | grr... statusbot is mia again | 20:04 |
| anteaya | robcresswell: tough week as many folks are enroute to summit | 20:04 |
| adam_g | mtreinish, or one of these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wicVKipb7sY :) | 20:04 |
| anteaya | fungi: :( and a success story and everything | 20:04 |
| robcresswell | anteaya: Yep, I've chosen a terrible time to ask. | 20:04 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: adding jobs doesn't scale well when it comes to self testing changes and duplicating work | 20:04 |
| anteaya | robcresswell: but that is your list of folks | 20:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Set BRANCH_OVERRIDE to stable/liberty for akanda/astara https://review.openstack.org/238225 | 20:04 |
| robcresswell | anteaya: Thanks | 20:04 |
| anteaya | robcresswell: welcome | 20:04 |
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| mordred | uhm | 20:05 |
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| mordred | infra-root: this was just brought to my attention: http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/Grounded-in-the-Cloud/A-new-model-to-deliver-public-cloud/ba-p/6804409#.VifvnW-kCkD | 20:05 |
| mordred | I would normally not post such things | 20:05 |
| mordred | in here | 20:05 |
| mordred | but | 20:05 |
| mordred | it might have an effect on the gate | 20:05 |
| mtreinish | adam_g: heh, yeah I saw one of those at the jal lounge in narita | 20:06 |
| clarkb | mordred: we have until end of january | 20:06 |
| mordred | yah | 20:06 |
| clarkb | mordred: and should probably not expect any of those feature requests to ever happen :/ | 20:06 |
| mordred | hopefully ovh and bluebox will be up and running by then | 20:06 |
| nibalizer | oh damn | 20:06 |
| nibalizer | no more hp | 20:06 |
| nibalizer | sorry anteaya i forgot myself | 20:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Add openstack-health frontend to status.o.o https://review.openstack.org/236165 | 20:07 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: yup | 20:07 |
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| mtreinish | timothyb89: ^^^ we should keep our eyes on status.o.o for that to be applied | 20:07 |
| mtreinish | I doubt it'll work the first time | 20:07 |
| mtreinish | it never does.... | 20:07 |
| timothyb89 | mtreinish: oh, cool, awesome! can't wait to see what happens | 20:07 |
| anteaya | mordred: that is sad | 20:07 |
| anteaya | go go ovh | 20:08 |
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| fungi | mordred: yeah, i would expect to see working ovh and bluebox in nodepool well before that, at which point we'd barely notice | 20:08 |
| fungi | but good to keep on the radar as a looming deadline | 20:08 |
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| fungi | #success https://tarballs.openstack.org/ is now available in addition to http://tarballs.openstack.org/ | 20:09 |
| anteaya | what is the current status of the bluebox cloud? | 20:09 |
| openstackstatus | fungi: Added success to Success page | 20:09 |
| anteaya | fungi: yay | 20:09 |
| anteaya | fungi: going to mention you got statusbot back in channel to post that? :) | 20:09 |
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| fungi | anteaya: i was tempted, but no | 20:09 |
| anteaya | fungi: ha ha ha | 20:09 |
| clarkb | anteaya: that is a good question for mordred because I hvaen't really heard anything about it yet | 20:10 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: heh, so my patch to try and fix the health.o.o db connection issue seems to have broken things | 20:10 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: when you get a sec can you check the logs for the traceback? :) | 20:10 |
| anteaya | mordred: timrc what is the current status of the bluebox cloud? can you say? | 20:10 |
| nibalizer | sure | 20:10 |
| mordred | anteaya: I have the bluebox cloud | 20:10 |
| anteaya | woooo | 20:11 |
| mordred | anteaya: we have not yet started attaching it in earnest | 20:11 |
| anteaya | is earnest in irc? | 20:11 |
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| anteaya | can he share his thoughts? | 20:11 |
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| * mordred hands anteaya a sad trombone | 20:13 | |
| clarkb | mordred: is that because we need togo through similar test steps as jeblair is doing with ovh? | 20:13 |
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| mordred | clarkb: yeah - also, we get to define our own flavors with our bluebox cloud | 20:14 |
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| mordred | also - I think there is one issue with booting things on it that I can't remember | 20:15 |
| mordred | that shade solves - that is trickier than the network name workaround for ovh | 20:15 |
| mordred | so probably after summit we'll make another shade push | 20:15 |
| clarkb | mordred: you ar egoing to tell me that your python has to sacrifice a process for every node booted I bet | 20:16 |
| nibalizer | mtreinish: http://paste.openstack.org/show/477076/ | 20:16 |
| clarkb | # This fork is here purely to sacrifice the child to the bluebox cloud | 20:16 |
| mordred | clarkb: yup | 20:16 |
| mordred | clarkb: that's the relevant comment | 20:16 |
| mordred | :) | 20:16 |
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| mordred | I honestly don't remember what the issue was ... | 20:17 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: hmm that's odd | 20:17 |
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| mtreinish | nibalizer: I don't know how the sessionmaker object could not get defined | 20:17 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: was there a stack trace ealier in the log from setup()? | 20:18 |
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| mtreinish | that's the function that does the engine init | 20:18 |
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| purp | Hi, all. | 20:19 |
| mordred | hey purp! | 20:19 |
| purp | So, what's new? | 20:19 |
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| mordred | purp: we hear there's a public cloud sunset planned :( | 20:20 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: will that SSL cert also work for the trystack vhost? It appears to be a wildcard? | 20:20 |
| nibalizer | mtreinish: http://paste.openstack.org/show/477077/ is that what you're looking for? | 20:20 |
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| mtreinish | nibalizer: yep, thanks | 20:21 |
| purp | That's true. And we need to chat about how that works, and what we can do to fill the gap. | 20:21 |
| mtreinish | sigh, so it tries to use the default on the prod server but local testing didn't work | 20:22 |
| mtreinish | I just can't win | 20:22 |
| mordred | purp: would it be safe to assume that the infra-cloud servers will be going too since they're in the same dc and managed by the same ops team? | 20:22 |
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| purp | mordred fungi (and others): we should likely gather at the Summit and discuss. I'm working on some bright spots in it, and am hoping that some other folks will help. | 20:22 |
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| mordred | purp: ++ | 20:22 |
| mordred | purp: would love to | 20:22 |
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| purp | mordred: no, not that I'm aware. If that's the case, I'll make sure they find a home somewhere. | 20:23 |
| mordred | cool. thanks! | 20:23 |
| anteaya | purp: are you there monday? | 20:23 |
| anteaya | purp: many of us attend the joint tc/board meeting | 20:23 |
| purp | anteaya: I land Sat mid-late afternoon. | 20:23 |
| purp | anteaya: I'll be at both. | 20:23 |
| anteaya | anyone haev time for a sit down prior to the tc/board meeting? | 20:23 |
| anteaya | would that work? | 20:23 |
| anteaya | I'll work on finding a space if that time is agreeable | 20:24 |
| Rockyg | just chiming in... any interest on getting a nodepool up on the Huawei public cloud? | 20:24 |
| mordred | Rockyg: yes! | 20:24 |
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| mordred | Rockyg: we're pretty evil to clouds - but you get good data from us | 20:24 |
| Rockyg | Cool. I'll try to gather the names of the folks to talk to. | 20:24 |
| purp | anteaya: That would be good. | 20:24 |
| Rockyg | That will be at the summit. | 20:24 |
| mordred | anteaya: I'm here already | 20:24 |
| anteaya | purp: okay I will see what I can do about arrangements | 20:25 |
| anteaya | mordred: awesome can you scope a room? | 20:25 |
| Rockyg | Also, I can probably get mordred an account | 20:25 |
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| anteaya | mordred: within walking distance of the board meeting? | 20:25 |
| mordred | oh - by here I meant "in tokyo" not "anywhere near the summit" | 20:25 |
| purp | mordred fungi: let's get anteaya the list of folks to be sure are there (and all others welcome, of course) | 20:25 |
| mordred | anteaya: but I'll see what I can find | 20:25 |
| fungi | pabelanger: it's not a wildcard, but yes it's for most of the vhost names on static.o.o. i plan to propose the change to add the rest here shortly once i'm done fleshing out summit etherpads | 20:25 |
| anteaya | mordred: ah sorry, I jumped to conclusions | 20:25 |
| anteaya | mordred: thanks | 20:26 |
| Rockyg | Although I leave tomorrow for Tokyo, the info might not be gotten until mid summit | 20:26 |
| pabelanger | fungi: Ah, nice. Thanks for the info | 20:26 |
| mordred | Rockyg: ++ - is there a public signup page? I'd love to get an account for me so I can make sure shade works | 20:26 |
| anteaya | purp: I'll follow up, feel free to ping me if you have thoughts | 20:26 |
| Rockyg | Yah. I think the Huawei cloud is gonna be a challenge for shade ;-) | 20:26 |
| Rockyg | But, lemme do some research.... | 20:27 |
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| fungi | purp: thanks for the help, we'll definitely make sure to find time. maybe we can pull you into an infra session or two even? | 20:27 |
| Rockyg | mordred, nodepool would help to drive the Huawei service towards interop. Big plus... | 20:27 |
| purp | fungi: would be delighted. If you've got dates/times/places, shoot them to me and I'll be sure to be there. | 20:28 |
| anteaya | purp: here is the schedule for infra: http://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/overview/type/infrastructure#.Vif1c5cnFz1 | 20:28 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: https://review.openstack.org/238241 should fix the issue | 20:28 |
| mtreinish | well I hope it will | 20:28 |
| mordred | Rockyg: it cannot possibly be more of a challenge than the oter 15 clouds we've eaten so far | 20:29 |
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| nibalizer | mtreinish: http://puppetboard.openstack.org/report/status.openstack.org/df92f5f12e37c9d42615e419e60ec175c761be31 | 20:29 |
| clarkb | mordred: you say that but before you know it my process sacrificing comment will become reality | 20:29 |
| nibalizer | and its on status | 20:29 |
| nibalizer | mtreinish: we forgot to add it to the top header thing | 20:29 |
| timrc | Hm. | 20:29 |
| mordred | clarkb: ++ | 20:29 |
| timrc | So What does HP's announcement mean for upstream in terms of nodepool? | 20:30 |
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| anteaya | timrc: we are going to have a sit down at summit and figure that out | 20:30 |
| anteaya | timrc: it means something | 20:30 |
| purp | Awesome. Thanks, anteaya. | 20:30 |
| anteaya | but we don't know exactly what yet | 20:30 |
| anteaya | purp: great thank you | 20:31 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: oops, it should be on the main index page at least | 20:31 |
| nibalizer | mtreinish: it is | 20:31 |
| nibalizer | we might even hold off adding it to the header until its, you know, working | 20:31 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: heh, yeah | 20:31 |
| purp | timrc: Looking to work that all the way through at the summit. | 20:31 |
| timrc | purp, anteaya Cool. | 20:32 |
| fungi | purp: i think at least a few of us are likely to be attending the board and joint board/tc meeting on monday (due to being on one of those bodies or being interested spectators) so it's possible we could work something into the scheduled lunch break that day, especially if you wanted to lurk the board meeting anyway | 20:34 |
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| mtreinish | nibalizer: so I'm getting a 404 on status.o.o/openstack-health | 20:34 |
| purp | fungi: I'm definitely going to be at board and tc/board. Looking forward to that. | 20:34 |
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| mordred | purp, anteaya, fungi: also, I'm planning on meeting with folks to talk about topics on sunday | 20:35 |
| mtreinish | puppetboard says it moved the build dir | 20:35 |
| mordred | I don't want to compell other people to do such a thung | 20:35 |
| mordred | thing | 20:35 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: is there anything in there? | 20:35 |
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| purp | mordred: as long as I'm coherent, I'm in. | 20:35 |
| anteaya | mordred: okay well perhaps sunday then and monday as a fall back | 20:35 |
| mordred | but harlowja, SpamapS and I already have a sunday topic (that purp might also want to lurk on) | 20:35 |
| anteaya | I arrive saturday | 20:35 |
| anteaya | mordred: cool | 20:35 |
| mordred | there's also tuesday keynotes | 20:35 |
| nibalizer | mtreinish: me too | 20:36 |
| fungi | i do get in on saturday as well (late afternoonish) | 20:36 |
| nibalizer | mtreinish: give me a few minutes, I gotta change locations | 20:36 |
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| clarkb | fungi: saturday or sunday? | 20:36 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: ok, thanks | 20:36 |
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| clarkb | fungi: I thought you were sunday afternoon | 20:36 |
| purp | anteaya: Let's get the list of essential folks and find out landing times. Would hate to miss someone due to scheduling early. | 20:36 |
| anteaya | purp: understood | 20:36 |
| purp | anteaya: Thanks. | 20:36 |
| mtreinish | fungi: I do to sat. at like 4:30 or something | 20:37 |
| * purp should likely sort out his Summit schedule today ... | 20:37 | |
| mtreinish | s/to/too | 20:37 |
| anteaya | right now I have purp mordred jeblair fungi clarkb me probably pleia2 | 20:37 |
| anteaya | who am I missing | 20:37 |
| fungi | clarkb: oh, wait, you're right it's sunday :/ | 20:37 |
| clarkb | anteaya: I land 5pm sunday | 20:37 |
| mtreinish | fungi: heh, date line fun :) | 20:37 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya that date line is tricky | 20:37 |
| greghaynes | Gotta love the date line | 20:37 |
| fungi | i keep getting thrown by both the international date line and the one day late summit start this time | 20:37 |
| crinkle | I'm not sure what the topic is but I arrive sunday | 20:37 |
| anteaya | looks like finding 20 minutes during the board meeting day is our best bet | 20:37 |
| anteaya | anyone know when jeblair and pleia2 land? | 20:38 |
| anteaya | I think pleia2 is there already but vacationing | 20:38 |
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| anteaya | I'll start an email thread | 20:39 |
| anteaya | I'm leaning a private email thread for this one | 20:39 |
| anteaya | any objections? | 20:39 |
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| crinkle | I think pleia2 is in the air now | 20:40 |
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| anteaya | kk | 20:40 |
| clarkb | anteaya: its public news, its public we need to do omething with it, discussion here has been public, I don't think it needs to be a private thread | 20:40 |
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| clarkb | but that may hekp keep us on topic? | 20:40 |
| anteaya | clarkb: very good | 20:40 |
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| anteaya | well it isn't a meeting the world is invited to | 20:40 |
| anteaya | so I don't know what the best thing is here | 20:41 |
| greghaynes | Why not? | 20:41 |
| clarkb | anyways I intend on being around monday and sunday evening so can be flexible | 20:41 |
| purp | anteaya: re: pleia2 she just got onto her flight to Tokyo from Dallas ~5 hrs ago. Should be there Fri. | 20:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add graphite.o.o datasource for grafana.o.o https://review.openstack.org/238242 | 20:41 |
| anteaya | purp: awesome thank you | 20:41 |
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| anteaya | greghaynes: why not invite the whole world to discussing how hp's public cloud going away affects infra and how to migtigate? | 20:42 |
| greghaynes | anteaya: Yes | 20:42 |
| mordred | clarkb, anteaya: I agree re: no need for private thread - otoh - I do think the conversatoin _here_ has been productive and businesslike | 20:42 |
| mordred | so - depending on list, that might not happen (snarky list posts, etc) | 20:42 |
| anteaya | right | 20:42 |
| pabelanger | fungi: which infra-roots are not going to the summit, do you happen to know? EG: who gets to deal with the fires :) | 20:42 |
| mordred | and I don't personally want to be party to that - but maybe infra list won't be that bad | 20:42 |
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| mordred | also depending on how initial email is phrased | 20:43 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: not sure, though also we can just decide there are no fires | 20:43 |
| rcarrillocruz | lol | 20:43 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: nibalizer so we are hosting the dashboard on status.o.o and need to figure out the 404s there? | 20:43 |
| mordred | pabelanger: I am not aware of any infra-root's not coming | 20:43 |
| clarkb | fungi: except | 20:43 |
| pabelanger | fungi: mordred: ack | 20:43 |
| clarkb | fungi: did we ever finish up etherpad.o.o? | 20:43 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: what about it? | 20:44 |
| fungi | clarkb: i think so... | 20:44 |
| greghaynes | oh, upgrading? | 20:44 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: websockets, upgrade, bigger host | 20:44 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: yep | 20:44 |
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| anteaya | well to be honest it is looking like the meeting will be held when the opportunity presents itself during the board meeting day | 20:44 |
| anteaya | either prior to, at lunch or directly after | 20:44 |
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| pabelanger | clarkb: greghaynes: websockets FTW | 20:44 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: the puppet is supposed to build the js and mv it to /srv/static/openstack-health | 20:44 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: puppetboard says the mv worked, but still getting 404s | 20:44 |
| timrc | I'm just hoping someone steps up to fill the void that does active maintenance on their mysql db's. I think openstack-infra via the foundation should be able to establish some reasonable SLA. Resources should not be looked at as donations, but business critical. | 20:44 |
| anteaya | and is entirely dependent on what the other folks who need to have a say are doing | 20:45 |
| clarkb | fungi: greghaynes its trusty with 4GB VM | 20:45 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: so I'm guess it built nothing | 20:45 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: fun | 20:45 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: ok | 20:45 |
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| timrc | best-effort donations* | 20:45 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: well in theory ops summit broke it just as bad and we are good :) | 20:45 |
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| clarkb | ya we doubled the ram according to cacti so all should be good | 20:46 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: hah. I will be plesantly surprised if it doesnt go down in flames for a summit. | 20:46 |
| anteaya | mordred: I understand yes, and agree the discussion has been very productive | 20:46 |
| anteaya | I'm going to eat some lunch and compose an email draft in an etherpad | 20:46 |
| nibalizer | im back | 20:46 |
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| anteaya | and will ask for input after it is up | 20:46 |
| timrc | nibalizer: once again, like a renegade master? | 20:47 |
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| timrc | nibalizer: That song might be before your time. | 20:47 |
| clarkb | fungi: so I agree etherpad should be ready | 20:47 |
| timrc | nibalizer: Early 90s. :) | 20:47 |
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| clarkb | mtreinish: there is nothing in the vhost for health | 20:48 |
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| purp | timrc: Agree, and looking to help resolve that as well, believe it or now. | 20:48 |
| purp | *not | 20:48 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: there is stuff in /srv/static/openstack-health, I think you just need to tell apache its ok to serve it | 20:49 |
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| clarkb | nibalizer: ^ | 20:49 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: oh, I assumed the vhost there hosted everything on /src/static | 20:49 |
| mtreinish | I didn't tell it to do anything but an mv | 20:49 |
| clarkb | looks like there are explicit allows for the subdirs | 20:49 |
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| clarkb | so likely just need to add one | 20:50 |
| timrc | purp: Good to hear. But also it's pretty cool how far we've come with some spectacularly bad cloud API performance. | 20:50 |
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| purp | timrc: Nice adverb you've got there. ;D | 20:51 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: ah, yeah I see it now. I didn;t update the status vhost template, I'll do that right now | 20:53 |
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| fungi | timrc: actually we used to get some spectacularly great performance from hpcloud | 20:54 |
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| fungi | better than $othercloud (except for the randomly deleting any long-lived servers we'd try to run there) | 20:56 |
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| nibalizer | mtreinish: clarkb cool thanks | 20:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add openstack-health to status.o.o vhost template https://review.openstack.org/238247 | 21:00 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer, clarkb: ^^^ | 21:01 |
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| clarkb | mtreinish: +2 | 21:01 |
| timrc | fungi: Past tense is key to this discussion. I have no clout here but my personal feeling is that the foundation should establish SLAs with its providers so they take the relationship more serious or at least openstack has a way of exerting pressure to get things back in line. | 21:01 |
| timrc | Beyond back channeling things through employees of said providers. | 21:01 |
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| anteaya | timrc: I think this would be a great discussion to have on the friday meetup day | 21:03 |
| nibalizer | mtreinish: +2a | 21:03 |
| mtreinish | yay | 21:03 |
| fungi | there are definite down-sides from tying foundation relationships to infra resources too | 21:03 |
| jroll | timrc: curious what you're implying here, currently used clouds aren't performing to expectations or? | 21:03 |
| timrc | anteaya: I'm getting in late and leaving early... I don't think I'll be there for the Friday meetup time for infra :/ | 21:04 |
| jroll | timrc: or more along the lines of "let's make sure clouds don't disappear again"? or something else? | 21:04 |
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| timrc | jroll: I'm saying that performance should be consistent. | 21:04 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: is that the last piece assuming it works? | 21:04 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: should be | 21:04 |
| clarkb | woot | 21:04 |
| mtreinish | just landed the patch to try and fix the connection issues | 21:05 |
| regXboi | woot^2 | 21:05 |
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| mtreinish | see if it works in like 5-10 mins :) | 21:05 |
| jroll | timrc: I mean, do you think there's a public cloud that doesn't want their cloud to perform as well as possible? | 21:05 |
| mordred | jroll: yes | 21:05 |
| jroll | O_O | 21:05 |
| mordred | jroll: I think it's a tradeoff | 21:05 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: there is follow up stuff, like server side caching: https://review.openstack.org/236173 | 21:05 |
| mtreinish | cacti: https://review.openstack.org/237823 | 21:05 |
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| mordred | jroll: 'perform well' doesn't necessarily mean "provide excellent CPU performance for guests" | 21:06 |
| mtreinish | and docs: https://review.openstack.org/237268 | 21:06 |
| mtreinish | but those aren't critical | 21:06 |
| jroll | ah | 21:06 |
| mordred | jroll: some people think "provide predictable performance" is fine | 21:06 |
| jroll | mordred: so data plane performance, then | 21:06 |
| mordred | yah | 21:06 |
| lifeless | or consistency :) | 21:06 |
| jroll | gotcha | 21:06 |
| mordred | control plane performance is a thing all clouds want | 21:06 |
| mordred | because control plane performing slowly is a cost | 21:06 |
| mordred | (usually means something is broken) | 21:06 |
| jroll | timrc mentioned "does active maintenance on their mysql db's." earlier so it wasn't clear to me | 21:06 |
| mordred | data plane performance is a thing tey want to get value back from customers for | 21:07 |
| jroll | idk what that has to do with data plane performance | 21:07 |
| jroll | right | 21:07 |
| purp | jroll: that was aimed at me, not you. ;D | 21:07 |
| jroll | purp: I don't care where it's aimed, just trying to understand :) | 21:07 |
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| timrc | jroll: That was just a dig. Because we were suffering from unbearably slow API calls due to lack of maintenance on the db's. | 21:07 |
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| jroll | timrc: right, so I thought the issue was control plane performance, which is why I was confused :) | 21:08 |
| * jroll understands now | 21:08 | |
| clarkb | mtreinish: while I am sorting out what all needs to be done to upgrade elasticserach, do you know if e-r will need changes? | 21:09 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: not off the top of my head. It depends on how much they changed the api | 21:09 |
| asselin | mtreinish, clarkb yes, there are a few changes | 21:10 |
| mtreinish | asselin: you're running it with a new es? | 21:10 |
| asselin | you probably want to upgrade the version of pyelasticsearch | 21:10 |
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| asselin | mtreinish, yes | 21:10 |
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| asselin | which mean you need to specify the url with port 80 if port 9200 is not what you want | 21:11 |
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| clarkb | asselin: I don't undertsand what the port has to do with it | 21:11 |
| clarkb | asselin: we aren't changing any ports | 21:11 |
| asselin | clarkb, right...if you don't specify a port in the url (i.e. using port 80) then the later version of pyelasticsearch will change it to port 9200. Let me find the link... | 21:12 |
| clarkb | asselin: I see its the lib changing. If we switch the lib version do any of the calls have to be updated that you know of? | 21:13 |
| asselin | clarkb, no..just the conf entry | 21:14 |
| clarkb | ok so thats not too bad | 21:14 |
| clarkb | and we can change that upfront I bet | 21:14 |
| asselin | clarkb, ++ | 21:14 |
| anteaya | timrc: oh that is a shame | 21:14 |
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| mordred | timrc: to be fair to them - the fact that that db requires as much mainta as it does is squarely on the shoulders of openstack and we should be ashamed | 21:15 |
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| asselin | clarkb, mtreinish need to add port 80 here: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/puppet-elastic_recheck/tree/manifests/bot.pp#n27 | 21:17 |
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| clarkb | asselin: want to propose the change? | 21:17 |
| mtreinish | asselin: does that break anything if we do that now? | 21:17 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: I doubt it would since 80 is implicit | 21:17 |
| asselin | I can propose it. shouldn't break anything | 21:17 |
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| clarkb | then we need a WIP change to bump the pyelasticsearch version | 21:17 |
| clarkb | which we can land after the upgrade | 21:18 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: that's what I figured, but you never know :) | 21:18 |
| anteaya | purp mordred fungi clarkb timrc greghaynes (anyone else who contributed to the conversation) here is the etherpad link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/4GcqlJzMpC | 21:19 |
| timrc | anteaya: Thanks! | 21:19 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: so I'm guessing I'm doing something stupid in the puppet: http://puppetdb.openstack.org/report/status.openstack.org/66a31aa01d863111f83e60e792021cb158d0a143 | 21:20 |
| mtreinish | it looks like it's running mv everytime even if a new build isn't kicked off | 21:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-elastic_recheck: Set port to 80 in preparation for pyelasticsearch upgrade https://review.openstack.org/238251 | 21:21 |
| asselin | mtreinish, clarkb ^^ | 21:21 |
| anteaya | timrc: thank you for participating in the conversation | 21:21 |
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| nibalizer | mtreinish: i dont see mv-static-files on here ? http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health/tree/manifests/frontend.pp | 21:22 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: it's on site.pp | 21:22 |
| mtreinish | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health/tree/manifests/site.pp#n27 | 21:22 |
| nibalizer | mtreinish: you need refreshonly => true on that exec | 21:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Add openstack-health to status.o.o vhost template https://review.openstack.org/238247 | 21:23 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: ok, will do | 21:23 |
| nibalizer | that will make the exec fire ONLY if it gets a signal through subscirbe or notify | 21:23 |
| nibalizer | other cheap ways to make exec not fire every time include 'onlyif => 'some shell command returns true' and 'creates => 'path tofile getting created' | 21:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Only run mv if we generated a new js build https://review.openstack.org/238253 | 21:25 |
| mtreinish | nibalizer: ^^^ | 21:25 |
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| nibalizer | mtreinish: lgtm | 21:29 |
| nibalizer | clarkb: maybe can poke that along | 21:29 |
| * clarkb looks | 21:30 | |
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| clarkb | nibalizer: can has review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238251/ ? more elasticsearch upgrade prep | 21:37 |
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| nibalizer | is recheck bot an irc bot? | 21:38 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: yes it hangs out in the qa channel | 21:38 |
| nibalizer | oh | 21:38 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: and reports why builds failed | 21:38 |
| nibalizer | oh sweet | 21:38 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: well it's supposed to at least | 21:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed openstack-infra/puppet-gerrit: Reduce time to reindex Gerrit data https://review.openstack.org/238184 | 21:38 |
| zaro | nibalizer: ^ | 21:38 |
| nibalizer | clarkb: asselin so this is a noop change ya? | 21:38 |
| mtreinish | most of the time we get logs failed to show up after 15min :) | 21:39 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: well I think it got properly hosed by the failed upgrade situation with pbr | 21:39 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: ya | 21:39 |
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| clarkb | mtreinish: well the issue there is when jobs fail they write 80MB of console log | 21:39 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: :P | 21:39 |
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| clarkb | cinder is particularly bad I think mriedem said that that was being worked though | 21:39 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: heh, yeah that's fair | 21:42 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: well we've got something now: http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/ | 21:43 |
| mtreinish | not exactly what it should look like, I'm guessing the build scripts are fubar in openstack-health | 21:43 |
| mtreinish | but at least it's being hosted now | 21:43 |
| nibalizer | crinkle: can you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238184/ and make sure I'm not crazy | 21:43 |
| crinkle | nibalizer: sure | 21:43 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: its a thing :) | 21:44 |
| timothyb89 | mtreinish: odd, we are definitely using only relative paths, wonder why that's getting stripped | 21:44 |
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| timothyb89 | mtreinish: 'it' being the /openstack-health/ subdirectory from all the resources | 21:44 |
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| mtreinish | timothyb89: did I mv the wrong thing | 21:46 |
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| mtreinish | I did mv openstack-health/build /srv/static/ | 21:46 |
| timothyb89 | mtreinish: I don't think so, all the files are there and accessible directly | 21:46 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Change key binding for reverse sort to shift-r ('R') https://review.openstack.org/233566 | 21:46 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Separate search and refine search commands https://review.openstack.org/238260 | 21:46 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Add a simple kill ring https://review.openstack.org/238261 | 21:46 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Add interactive search to diff view https://review.openstack.org/238262 | 21:46 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Add navigation to interactive search https://review.openstack.org/238263 | 21:46 |
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| timothyb89 | mtreinish: its like the browser is just 'forgetting' to handle relative paths correctly | 21:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Only run mv if we generated a new js build https://review.openstack.org/238253 | 21:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Update review-dev.o.o to Gerrit ver 2.11 https://review.openstack.org/238265 | 21:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-elastic_recheck: Set port to 80 in preparation for pyelasticsearch upgrade https://review.openstack.org/238251 | 21:49 |
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| nibalizer | clarkb: when do you wanna do the ES upgrade? | 21:50 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: week after summit, basically as soon as we are both alive again | 21:50 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: and hopefully everyone else will be too hung over to notice | 21:50 |
| mtreinish | timothyb89: well if you have any ideas on how to fix push up the o-h patch | 21:50 |
| mtreinish | because I'm a bit out of my element for that | 21:50 |
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| timothyb89 | mtreinish: I am honestly confused, this config works fine for me using relative paths on a local webserver | 21:51 |
| anteaya | zaro: is there any way I can find out how many registered users we have in gerrit right now? Looking to get some stats down about our usage here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-infra-scalingnewprojectcreation | 21:51 |
| timothyb89 | mtreinish: ah, we've got a rogue <base>, I'll push up a fix | 21:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Fix projects list/search/get interface https://review.openstack.org/191566 | 21:58 |
| zaro | anteaya: i'm not sure there's a command for that and even if there was you would probably need admin access. let me take a look | 21:58 |
| mordred | Shrews: ^^ there you go - all rebased and stuff | 21:58 |
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| anteaya | zaro: thanks, just looking to see if we can get some numbers to back up my assertion we really use gerrit a lot | 21:59 |
| anteaya | clarkb: can you take a minute and look over: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/4GcqlJzMpC | 22:00 |
| clarkb | anteaya: sure | 22:00 |
| anteaya | clarkb: it is my draft email to the infra list about our impromptu meeting | 22:00 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: as far as registered users the uids are sequential because YOLO so you can pretty easily infer that with a binary search on the problem space | 22:00 |
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| zaro | ok, i suspect that there is no command because there's this plugin that adds it https://gerrit.googlesource.com/plugins/admin-console/+/stable-2.11/src/main/resources/Documentation/cmd-ls-users.md | 22:00 |
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| zaro | but it says gerrit admins only anyways | 22:01 |
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| zaro | clarkb, fungi ^ might be useful | 22:01 |
| anteaya | clarkb: I'm wondering if I have the abiltiy to perform a binary search on the problem space | 22:01 |
| anteaya | clarkb: but I hear you saying i just have to find the id number of the most recent user | 22:02 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: ya so do owner:20000 then when that fails owner:15000 and narrow it down | 22:02 |
| anteaya | clarkb: ah okey dokey I can do that, thanks | 22:03 |
| clarkb | anteaya: I can get an answer by asking the database but I am juggling a few things so would be a little time | 22:03 |
| anteaya | zaro: can you add that to an etherpad about gerrit, maybe the development one? | 22:03 |
| zaro | anteaya: or have one of the gerrit admins query the db for you | 22:03 |
| anteaya | clarkb: yup, I can do this myself | 22:03 |
| anteaya | clarkb: thanks | 22:03 |
| clarkb | anteaya: the therpad lgtm, the one thing you may or may not want to add is that the only room in the design summit area that will be open on monday is the one used by the board meeting. One suggestion was that we can use lobby space or a restaurant | 22:03 |
| anteaya | zaro: yup, clarkb gave me a suggestion | 22:03 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: sure thank you | 22:04 |
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| zaro | clarkb: nifty trick | 22:04 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: added | 22:06 |
| anteaya | clarkb: was that what you had in mind? | 22:06 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: ya | 22:08 |
| anteaya | 18948 as of right now | 22:09 |
| anteaya | clarkb: thank you | 22:09 |
| anteaya | the more recent entries don't have a lot of activity | 22:09 |
| clarkb | anteaya: and some are definitely dupliates | 22:09 |
| clarkb | but I think you can safely say we have well over 10k users | 22:09 |
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| anteaya | very safely | 22:10 |
| anteaya | any opinions on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/4GcqlJzMpC | 22:11 |
| anteaya | in addition to clarkb's suggested addition? | 22:11 |
| anteaya | and mordred's edit? | 22:11 |
| anteaya | am I good to send that, am I waiting for something? | 22:11 |
| anteaya | purp: says he can live with it | 22:12 |
| mordred | anteaya, clarkb: well, https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:17350,n,z is a realhuman | 22:12 |
| mordred | so we have at least 17350 users | 22:12 |
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| mordred | anteaya: oh wow, I didn't see you'd gotten 18948! | 22:13 |
| clarkb | I have to say I am excited that usb-C is a thing, but not happy that I have to buy usb-A to usb-C cables to make anything useful | 22:13 |
| mordred | clarkb: ++ | 22:13 |
| timrc | anteaya: Looks good to me. | 22:13 |
| timrc | anteaya: My only other comment is that the intent of the meeting " the current plan is to try to find 15 or 20 mintues during lunch break to discuss this and create an agreement about next steps and a follow up plan. | 22:14 |
| anteaya | timrc: thank you | 22:14 |
| timrc | seems to get a bit lost. | 22:14 |
| purp | Better than “can live with it.” =] | 22:14 |
| anteaya | purp: okay thanks for clarification | 22:14 |
| anteaya | timrc: well I think the folks I am trying to gather will understand it | 22:15 |
| anteaya | this is less a public announcement and more a desire to follow the openstack way in all things | 22:15 |
| anteaya | timrc: I can understand the perspective, but kind of like the work sessions I'm trying to target the intended folks to gather | 22:16 |
| anteaya | timrc: sorry if that seem exclusionary | 22:16 |
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| timrc | anteaya: Not at all, it just going to be sent out to openstack-infra so other eyes will be on it. | 22:16 |
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| anteaya | timrc: yes, and as the first line states it is mostly for archival purposes that we are doing so | 22:17 |
| asselin | hi, nodepool DIB images are failing because this project doesn't have a master branch: openstack/deb-openstack-pkg-tools http://paste.openstack.org/show/477087/ | 22:17 |
| clarkb | asselin: yes | 22:17 |
| greghaynes | asselin: Yea, we fixed | 22:17 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: no its not fixed | 22:17 |
| greghaynes | oh | 22:17 |
| greghaynes | :( | 22:17 |
| clarkb | at least I hvane't done the dance to force push to them | 22:17 |
| clarkb | was hoping to come up with a better solution | 22:17 |
| greghaynes | ah, I thought we added the branch, nvm | 22:17 |
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| clarkb | I wonder if zigo can just fix it? | 22:18 |
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| clarkb | or at least indicate a prefernce of fix ? | 22:18 |
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| anteaya | fungi: any comments on the draft email? | 22:21 |
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| anteaya | mordred: 17530 does appear to be a real human | 22:24 |
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| greghaynes | mordred: clarkb fungi random thought re using other clouds to hopefully recoup some of the hpcloud workload - AIUI we are planning to only use image uploads in the other clouds? Maybe we should prioritize getting upload working reliably / switching existing stuff over to images? | 22:25 |
| greghaynes | I havent seen any testing of snapshot stuff in the ovh/bluebox clouds so not sure how much of an option that even is | 22:26 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: ya I think we need to revive the bindep work for unitests | 22:26 |
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| clarkb | but definitel should start there rather than do extra work to move | 22:26 |
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| asselin | clarkb, greghaynes a fix to that issue 'soon' would be helpful. There are some 3rd party folks running into that as they're trying in the new common-ci solution. No image, no ci... | 22:28 |
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| clarkb | asselin: I think anyone is welcome to do the work ... | 22:30 |
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| asselin | clarkb, sure...what needs to be done? add a master branch? | 22:30 |
| clarkb | asselin: oh I crossed the streams was talking about image builds | 22:31 |
| clarkb | asselin: but same situation for deb thing except you may need gerrit admin once you decide what the best fix is | 22:31 |
| clarkb | we have two options, push up empty master or base master on existing ref | 22:31 |
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| clarkb | asselin: I dislike doing the force push empty branch trick because its kind of a pain, but can do it. It is easier to just point at an existing ref but that may not be appropriate | 22:34 |
| jesusaurus | I think basing it on the initial commit and updating the readme makes sense | 22:35 |
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| asselin | clarkb, I'm still confused why it broke. is this related to stackforge? | 22:35 |
| clarkb | asselin: it broke because they have no master branch | 22:35 |
| clarkb | asselin: but HEAD points to master | 22:35 |
| greghaynes | asselin: our tooling tells dib to check out a master branch of all the repos | 22:35 |
| clarkb | its a git thing and a gerrit thing. Basically master is required | 22:35 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: and even if it did the correct thing of checkout remote HEAD it would break | 22:36 |
| asselin | greghaynes, ok thanks...that explains the missing piece | 22:36 |
| jesusaurus | ah, so we could also update HEAD on the server side, but that is a more complicated change | 22:36 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: hah, yea | 22:36 |
| asselin | so nodepool dib doesn't necessarily need this repo...just for the cache | 22:36 |
| clarkb | jesusaurus: ya I -2 that because then I have to update all the mirrors manually | 22:36 |
| clarkb | including github | 22:36 |
| greghaynes | asselin: yep | 22:37 |
| clarkb | so my stance is "master is required" | 22:37 |
| jesusaurus | that's fair | 22:37 |
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| asselin | well...an empty master with a readme saying to to debian/libery branch would work | 22:37 |
| asselin | go to * | 22:37 |
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| anteaya | note, purp added the date of the sunset to the etherpad | 22:39 |
| anteaya | which I am fine with, any objections? | 22:39 |
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| clarkb | none from me | 22:39 |
| anteaya | thanks | 22:39 |
| fungi | anteaya: sorry, disappeared to make dinner. e-mail lgtm. i talked to claire and she says there's really not much available on monday aside from the room they're opening for the board meeting but we can crash one of the restaurants or something | 22:39 |
| anteaya | fungi: ah figured someting like that | 22:40 |
| anteaya | fungi: awesome thank you | 22:40 |
| anteaya | any objections to me sending the email? | 22:40 |
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| clarkb | nibalizer: timothyb89 mtreinish for http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health/tree/manifests/site.pp#n27 can we just switch to a recursive file resource? | 22:40 |
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| clarkb | nibalizer: timothyb89 mtreinish I think that will be easier to manage puppet wise and the mv didn't fire after updating the build so what we currently have doesn't work and I don't know why | 22:41 |
| fungi | anteaya: fire away | 22:41 |
| anteaya | fungi: okey dokey | 22:41 |
| anteaya | thanks all who helped in the conversation | 22:41 |
| fungi | thanks for summarizing anteaya! | 22:42 |
| anteaya | :) | 22:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-elastic_recheck: Use the new --conf option to pass in values https://review.openstack.org/237796 | 22:43 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: nibalizer timothyb89 I am writing that change now so we can argue in gerrit | 22:43 |
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| nibalizer | clarkb: ok | 22:43 |
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| anteaya | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2015-October/003309.html | 22:47 |
| warpc | Hi! Please review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237657/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237660/ | 22:47 |
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| anteaya | and those mentioned in the email should have recieved an individual copy by bcc | 22:47 |
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| clarkb | warpc: where are we using gevent? | 22:48 |
| fungi | some project, i forget which, is trying to add unit tests which rely on a python test requirement that builds against libevent | 22:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Use file resource to manage build copy https://review.openstack.org/238267 | 22:50 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: mtreinish timothyb89 ^ something like that should do it I think | 22:50 |
| clarkb | fungi: fun | 22:50 |
| clarkb | the only thing more confusing than eventlet is writing code to use eventlet, gevent, twisted, and taskflow all at the same time >_> | 22:50 |
| fungi | clarkb: shhh! (someone will read that and take it as a personal challenge) | 22:51 |
| nibalizer | hm im noticing that the last sentence of http://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/contribute-cloud.html needs an update | 22:51 |
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| warpc | clar: thank you for answer. At now moment i need this change to run test for it: https://github.com/openstack/fuel-ostf/blob/master/requirements.txt#L23 | 22:51 |
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| fungi | nibalizer: then perhaps you would approve https://review.openstack.org/229154 | 22:52 |
| clarkb | fungi: I approved the system-config change, but thought you may want to weigh in on the bindep change? my preference there would be for whatever project needs this to ship a bindep file instead | 22:52 |
| clarkb | fungi: rather than baking it into the fallback | 22:52 |
| fungi | clarkb: i would like that too, but i've not had free time to drive the bindep-based jobs the rest of the way to production so was hesitant to suggest that | 22:52 |
| clarkb | fungi: well its unused now | 22:53 |
| clarkb | so the system-config change will get them going and they can future proof in repo | 22:53 |
| fungi | and want to make sure that the bindep fallback list accurately reflects what we're installing on the bare-.* workers | 22:53 |
| clarkb | fungi: ah | 22:53 |
| nibalizer | fungi: my pleasure :) | 22:53 |
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| fungi | yeah, but another project can come along and start depending on it in the meantime and we won't know | 22:54 |
| clarkb | good point | 22:54 |
| clarkb | approved | 22:54 |
| fungi | and for any projects complaining that the bindep fallback takes too long to install, the answer is simple (once we're using it) | 22:54 |
| clarkb | ya | 22:55 |
| fungi | though really, with locally cached packages, the experimental nova unit test job with the bindep fallback on ubuntu-trusty was within noise variance of the runtime for the normal unit test job | 22:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Remove unused elastic-recheck files https://review.openstack.org/238270 | 22:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Support egg Gevent (http://www.gevent.org/) https://review.openstack.org/237660 | 22:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Support egg Gevent (http://www.gevent.org/) https://review.openstack.org/237657 | 23:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Update PTL contact info for new service providers https://review.openstack.org/229154 | 23:01 |
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| clarkb | nibalizer: https://review.openstack.org/238267 | 23:09 |
| nibalizer | clarkb: do we need force => true there? | 23:11 |
| nibalizer | I can never remember | 23:11 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: uh maybe | 23:11 |
| nibalizer | doesn't hurt | 23:11 |
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| nibalizer | that does hurt | 23:11 |
| nibalizer | :) | 23:11 |
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| clarkb | ya we need it to remove subdirs if they change in the source | 23:12 |
| clarkb | I will add | 23:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Use file resource to manage build copy https://review.openstack.org/238267 | 23:12 |
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| nibalizer | clarkb: +2 | 23:13 |
| clarkb | thanks | 23:14 |
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| Shrews | mordred: still in merge conflict | 23:32 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: being a puppet noob, does that re-copy every time we run the build? | 23:38 |
| mtreinish | or is it like a symlink | 23:38 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: I guess it can't hurt right now because it doesn't look like it's running the mv anymore: http://puppetboard.openstack.org/report/status.openstack.org/10d0d9af131c1123e23a72e055642a6d77e0d0f6 | 23:39 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: on good side of things, it looks like my fix for connection pooling works. The api server still has a db connection | 23:43 |
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| mordred | Shrews: GAH | 23:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Fix projects list/search/get interface https://review.openstack.org/191566 | 23:45 |
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| mordred | Shrews: ^^ | 23:45 |
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| mtreinish | mordred: if you get a sec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238267/ | 23:50 |
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| mordred | mtreinish: done! | 23:58 |
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| mtreinish | mordred: thanks, hopefully that'll fix things | 23:58 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: it md5sums and copies on a diff | 23:58 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: ok cool | 23:58 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: it is how we manage all the jenkins job builder yaml files | 23:59 |
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