Tuesday, 2015-09-29

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pleia2yeah, I don't think it made sense in the 90s either00:01
waynranyone here particularly familiar with the stevedore library?00:01
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lifelesswaynr: passingly, though -oslo would be perhaps a better channel. Whats up?00:02
waynrI am attempting to use it for a project I am working on and as far as I can tell it simply isn't loading an extension listed in setup.py that it was loading last week when I last worked on it00:02
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Collect DStat CSV logs if they exist.  https://review.openstack.org/21218900:02
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waynrusing stevedore 1.8.000:03
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waynrhmm i tried adding a bogus entry point and stevedore doesn't seem to care00:04
jrollwaynr: need to install the application again after changing entry points00:04
jroll'pip install .' or 'python setup.py install'00:05
lifelessjroll: never run python setup.py install :)00:05
lifelessjroll: we don't actually support it00:05
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waynri've been using "python setup.py develop"00:05
jrolllifeless: I mean, surely it depends on the project00:05
lifelessjroll: nope. pip fixes up setup.py behaviour00:06
lifelessjroll: to correctly track installed files, for instance00:06
clarkbespecially around use of http vs https00:06
lifelessjroll: not to mention the nightmare of easy-install clarkb is referring to00:06
jrollwaynr: I stand corrected, use 'pip install .'00:06
jrollfrom the project root00:06
waynrdo I have to do that whenever I make a change to the source?00:07
jeblair(or 'pip install -e .' ~= 'python setup.py develop')00:07
waynryay00:07
jroll++00:07
waynrhmm, my other subcommand is still missing...00:07
* jroll clearly has a fried brain and logs off00:07
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waynrthis would be much easier to seek help for if it were open source00:12
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waynrhmm stevedore may be silently catching exceptions that would otherwise be helpful here00:14
anteayayeah twin peaks made no sense in the 90s either, there were just a lot of people who were talking about it then00:15
* waynr tries the propagate_map_exceptions parameter to ExtensionManager00:16
fungidavid lynch's production style is to bombard the audience with bizarre, distracting and unrelated details so as to make it more challenging to pick up on the bizarre, distracting but slightly relevant details00:16
anteayaits a style00:17
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anteayadirector's have very odd styles00:18
anteayathe difference between a talented director and a wandering homeless person is the first assistant director00:18
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anteayaif you get one that can translate their random mumblings to the crew so we can set a shot, you're golden00:18
waynryep, stevedore is definitely hiding import related exceptions when it loads extension modules00:20
lifelesswaynr: it may be pkg_resources doing the catching00:21
lifelesswaynr: stevedore builds heavily on that00:21
waynrgood point00:22
jrollwaynr: what are you using to load the extensions? ExtensionManager?00:22
waynrwell I found the problem in module imported by my extension module I was attempting to import something not in my requirements.txt so when I blew away my virtualenv earlier today working on another problem i lost the thing that was no longer in my requirements.txt00:23
jrollwaynr: look at on_load_failure_callback, may be useful to you http://docs.openstack.org/developer/stevedore/managers.html#extensionmanager00:23
waynrjroll: yeah00:23
waynroh cool, thanks jroll++00:24
waynractually just everyone++, y'all are very helpful00:24
jroll:)00:24
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waynri should probably invest an hour or two setting up unit tests for this project00:25
anteayawaynr: lifeless just offered a patch to the infra manual about setting up unit tests00:26
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anteayawaynr: if you felt like following the instructions your feedback on the patch would be helpful00:27
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anteayawaynr: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228647/00:27
waynrcool, would this cover the steps necessary to set up unit testing similar to what is in JJB?00:27
waynrI spent a good 30 minutes digging into JJB last week trying to understand exactly what is going on when I run tox00:28
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* waynr reads00:29
anteayaI am not sure what is in jjb so would have to look00:29
* anteaya looks00:29
lifelesswaynr: anteaya: my patch was changing the docs for folk working on existing projects00:30
lifelesswaynr: anteaya: cookiecutter is probably a better reference for folk setting up new projects00:30
anteayalifeless: where does your patch say that?00:31
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lifelessanteaya: the content its altering is about that00:33
anteayawaynr: when you say unit testing similar to what is in jjb, do you mean python27 and 34 unit tests? http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/zuul/layout.yaml#n599000:33
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waynri mean tox -> testr -> subunit -> discover -> tests00:35
anteayalifeless: I don't see anything in that file that says this is for established projects, new projects should use cookiecutter00:35
waynrbeing a relative python newbie I probably have the order of a couple of those wrong00:35
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lifelessanteaya: there's nothing in that file about setting up the boilerplate of tox.ini etc00:35
lifelessanteaya: I'm not sure what your point is tbh, if I'm wrong I'm wrong, shrug00:36
anteayamy point is I didn't know what you assumed I did00:36
anteayaso if you want it to be useful to me, being explicit is helpful00:36
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lifelessanteaya: I'm 100% lost here.00:38
waynr okay that's right, tox's 'runtests' action calls 'python setup.py testr...' which in turn appears to make several calls to 'python -m subunit.run discover...'00:38
anteayalifeless: fine00:38
lifelessanteaya: I put a patch up when we noticed in #openstack-keystone that the developer manual didn't cover virtualenv00:38
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lifelessanteaya: you suggested that patch might be useful to waynr in setting up unit tests, and I offered you some information about my patch00:39
waynri'll probably spend more time figuring out the significance of each piece of that callstack tonight or tomorrow morning00:39
lifelessanteaya: to say that I didn't think it was relevant to waynr00:39
anteayawell the title says get unit tests working00:39
lifelessanteaya: (for that task)00:39
lifelessanteaya: yes; in the context of the file its changing00:39
anteayawaynr: sorry I can't be of more help00:39
anteayaI'm suggesting context might be helpful here00:40
jrollwaynr: this may help: https://github.com/openstack-dev/cookiecutter/tree/master/%7B%7Bcookiecutter.repo_name%7D%7D00:40
waynranteaya: it's cool, i usually learn better when i have to dig into stuff like this myself00:40
openstackgerritPaul Carver proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Adding IRC log and agenda wiki to networking-bgpvpn subproject  https://review.openstack.org/22799300:40
anteayawaynr: everyone has their own style, don't let me keep you from yours00:40
jrollwaynr: that's a basic template for an openstack project, so it should have most of what you need to get unit test infrastructure working00:40
waynrcool00:40
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openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/system-config: (WIP) Create playbook to puppet InfraCloud nodes  https://review.openstack.org/20963201:02
krotschecknibalizer: I'm encountering an odd error - "undefined method `ref' for nil:NilClass on node". Google tells me it's probably a missing module class of some kind, but the error message is less than heplful. Any thoughts on how I can trace that down?01:03
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nibalizercan you make a paste with what you are trying to do?01:05
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openstackgerritChris Burroughs proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: allow modules to manipulate data structure per job  https://review.openstack.org/22868201:15
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Add Kosmos Team meeting  https://review.openstack.org/22845201:16
krotschecknibalizer: http://paste.openstack.org/show/474545/01:16
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Adding IRC log and agenda wiki to networking-bgpvpn subproject  https://review.openstack.org/22799301:18
anteayaPiet_: did you ever get an answer to the question on this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224923/101:18
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openstackgerritClint Adams proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Test formatting of gerritbot/channels.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/22865601:21
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Piet_anteaya: I need to respond to the question of whether Hinnant is a member of the foundation.  He is...01:25
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openstackgerritClint Adams proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add script to facilitate project renaming in projects.yaml/channels.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/22800201:25
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openstackgerritClint Adams proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Test formatting of gerritbot/channels.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/22865601:26
Piet_anteaya: thanks for reminding me01:26
openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Adding a meeting for OpenStack-UX WG with new day and time  https://review.openstack.org/22021101:27
anteayaPiet_: great thank you01:28
anteayaPiet_: are you planning on being available for the tc meeting tomorrow?01:29
anteayaPiet_: it is helpful if you are there to answer questions if any arise while the patch is discussed01:29
anteayaPiet_: it is on tomorrow's tc meeting agenda01:29
Piet_anteaya: I can attend01:30
anteayaPiet_: great01:30
Piet_BTW - I'm starting to revisit asking the infra team to host an open source survey tool for the OpenStack UX team01:32
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anteayarevist asking?01:33
openstackgerritChris Burroughs proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: allow modules to manipulate data structure per job  https://review.openstack.org/22868201:33
anteayahave you asked before and you were turned down or folks didnt' understand the request?01:34
anteayaor you want infra to host a tool?01:34
anteayawasnt' it limesearch?01:34
anteayathat isn't it apparently01:35
openstackgerritClint Adams proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Test formatting of gerritbot/channels.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/22865601:35
mikalOh hai. What git repo manages apache for docs.openstack.org?01:35
anteayaPiet_: what was the name of the tool we discussed at ops meetup01:35
anteayastatic.openstack.org01:35
anteayagit repo is system config01:36
mikalanteaya: ta01:36
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Adding a meeting for OpenStack-UX WG with new day and time  https://review.openstack.org/22021101:36
Piet_LimeSurvey, but investigating another os survey tool that might be a bit better.01:36
anteayaPiet_: ah that was it01:36
anteayaPiet_: cool, willing to share the name yet?01:36
anteayalimes apparently are open source fruit01:37
Piet_http://www.kobotoolbox.org/01:37
Piet_"KoBoToolbox is a suite of tools for field data collection for use in challenging environments. Our software is free and open source. Most of our users are people working in humanitarian crises, as well as aid professionals and researchers working in developing countries. Our team of developers and researchers are based in Cambridge, MA, as well as Colorado, Canada, and Chile. "01:38
anteayamikal: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/system-config/tree/modules/openstack_project/manifests/static.pp01:40
mikalanteaya: so, I'm trying to work out how we'd configure apache rewrite rules for docs.o.o01:41
mikalanteaya: I can see examples of CI things, so I know its possible01:41
mikalActually, I should just flick pass this to the docs people01:42
mikalInstead of remembering how puppet works01:43
anteayaPiet_: this is the place of interest to me: js, shell, python, java: https://github.com/kobotoolbox01:43
anteayamikal: can you share the long term view01:43
anteayamikal: the thing that will happen if you can get apache rewrite rules figured out to your satisfaction01:44
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Piet_anteaya: How does it look to you? Easy to deploy?01:44
mikalanteaya: oh, sure. Docs changed the format for the authoring of some of their stuff. Which I am fine with. That had the side effect of breaking the URLs for some docs so that bookmarks etc don't work. Which I am not fine with. So I want them to put redirects in from the old URLs to the new ones.01:45
mikalanteaya: this is prompted by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216122/101:45
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openstackgerritClint Adams proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Test formatting of gerritbot/channels.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/22865601:45
anteayaPiet_: well they focus on people who are in emergency situations with zero computer experience01:45
Piet_anteaya:  Still thinking about how to host data generated in other tools.  I'm currently thinking of asking them to save the data as a CSV file and using a "dropbox" like repository to store them01:46
anteayaPiet_: so their suggested deployment is on a laptop in vagrant with virtualbox which we wouldn't do01:46
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Piet_aneaya: bummer, deal breaker01:46
anteayaPiet_: this however seems to be what needs to be deployed and ti looks to me like a djano app: https://github.com/kobotoolbox/kobocat01:46
anteayaPiet_: no no no01:46
anteayaPiet_: just means taht they might have made decisions which we might actually be able to improve on01:47
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anteayamikal: ah redirects01:47
anteayamikal: redirects are a fun topic01:47
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anteayamikal: yeah don't waste your time digging around in system config, chat with docs and find out what their understanding of redirects are currently01:49
mikalanteaya: yeah, 'zactly01:49
anteayamikal: if they don't have one come back here and the next person who probably will be helpfful is ajeager01:49
anteayawho should be up and about in towards the late part of your day01:49
anteayahe likely knows the best approach to this01:50
mikalYep01:50
anteayaPiet_: well with data storage think about how you want to consume it01:50
mikalWell, I've pingd my local docs cores, so let's see how they go first01:50
mikalI was trying to be helpful with some pointers, then I realized I'm not the right person to provide those pointers01:51
anteayaPiet_: do you want to search it, have a data dump, how do you want to digest and use the data01:51
anteayaPiet_: once you know how you want to consume the data, then make your decison about storage format01:51
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anteayamikal: yup01:51
anteayamikal: know your personal scope01:51
anteayamikal: we tend to like databases in here01:52
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anteayasorry that last was for Piet_01:52
Piet_anteaya:  Let me think about it, but would imagine that it would simply be an area to archive study results (such as responses from surveys).  My suspicion is that anyone wanting to do analysis with the data would #1 need approval and #2 download the CSV and use a spreadsheet or stat package to analyze it01:53
anteayaokay, lets look at how you want to analyse the data if that isn't jumping ahead to far01:54
anteayaI like to start with the end in mind01:54
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anteayahave you worked wtih any analyses tools that you really liked?01:55
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Piet_For example, let's say that the foundation provides a CSV file with the results of the job analysis survey that was distributed abut a month ago.01:56
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Piet_The OpenStack UX team is interested in using the data to conduct a cluster analysis to understand how the data groups.  Essentially segmentation analysis that could serve as a basis for developing personas.01:57
anteayagreat01:58
anteayahave you tools that provide those kinds of analyses?01:58
anteayaand kobotoolbox looks like an amazing project01:59
Piet_The CSV file from the foundation would be store in hosted "dropbox" like tool01:59
anteayain terms of their motivation for existance01:59
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anteayaPiet_: well we likely won't be doing that step01:59
anteayaPiet_: lets move onto the analysis part01:59
Piet_I would likely download the file and provide it to a researcher like Melissa Meingast01:59
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anteayaoh you would hand it off to a person02:00
Piet_At that point, Melissa would have some discretion in what tool she uses to analyze the data.  I would guess that she would use SPSS02:00
Piet_anteaya: yep02:01
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anteayahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSPP02:01
anteayaopen source alternative02:02
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anteayathis tool can import a postgres database02:03
Piet_Wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't built on "R" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_(programming_language)02:03
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anteayapossibly02:03
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anteayahmmmm: https://github.com/kobotoolbox/kobocat/blob/master/LICENSE02:06
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anteayathey said it was free and open source02:06
anteayaAll rights reserved.02:06
* anteaya is confused02:06
Piet_Actually planning to download PSPP02:06
Piet_k02:06
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anteayaPiet_: so we might have a stumbling block on kobotoolbox's choice of free and open source license02:06
Piet_Funny, because it does seem like LimeSurvey is the most active opensource tool.  Its just that the GUI kind of offends me02:07
anteayawell you being a ux person, I can accept that call on a tool02:07
anteayatheir website talks about how open source their tool is02:08
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anteayaPiet_: let's come back to this tomorrow when others are around02:09
anteayathen we can also incorporate their thoughts on this02:09
anteayaPiet_: sound okay?02:09
Piet_Yep02:09
anteayathanks02:10
Piet_Need to walk Waterbugs anyhow02:10
anteayaI hope we can find you a workflow you like02:10
anteayayup02:10
anteayaI bet she is impatient02:10
anteayatossing your end of the leash at you02:10
Piet_Naw, she sleeps most of the day.  I'm convinced that she can't really tell the difference between sleep and awake state02:11
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anteayareally?02:13
anteayashe convinced me that she could when I met her02:13
anteayaperhaps she puts on a good show02:13
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/requirements: Add simple doc publisher target  https://review.openstack.org/22869402:18
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openstackgerritJohn Griffith proposed openstack/os-testr: Enable blacklist parser to handle no comments  https://review.openstack.org/22869502:32
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openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/system-config: (WIP) Create playbook to puppet InfraCloud nodes  https://review.openstack.org/20963202:41
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openstackgerritJohn Griffith proposed openstack/os-testr: Enable blacklist parser to handle no comments  https://review.openstack.org/22869502:47
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tonybI'd like to help the UX team add logging to #openstack-ux.  If I read http://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/irc.html the channel needs to be active (Check) registered with infra having founder rights.  I'm about to do that thin but I just wanted to check that it's fine for anywon to do it.03:06
tonybnote there is no need for meetbot on the channel they just want the logs to end up in eavesdrop.o.o/irclogs/#openstack-ux/03:07
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clarkbtonyb to set those perms I think you need founder or at least op rights so anyone with that can. meetbot is the bot that provides logging03:08
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tonybclarkb: okay currently the chaannel isn't registered at all (AFICT) so I shoudl be able to register it with chanserv.03:09
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tonybclarkb: okay, I misunderstood the funcationality of meetbot.  I really only meant that they (teh UX team) wont be holding offical meeatings in that channel.03:10
* tonyb updates project-config to lookup the irc config ;P03:10
openstackgerritClint Adams proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Alphabetize channels in channels.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/22870203:11
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openstackgerritClint Adams proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Test formatting of gerritbot/channels.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/22865603:12
openstackgerritTimothy R. Chavez proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add timeout/retry to tools/apply-test.sh  https://review.openstack.org/22870303:13
tonybclarkb: turns out it is registered03:13
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openstackgerritClint Adams proposed openstack-infra/system-config: WIP - reprepro UCA mirror and corresponding override/overlay area  https://review.openstack.org/19813603:28
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Kennan2Ajaeger: there?03:45
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Kennnanhi clarkb: Ajaeger: I did not find python-jobs in layout.yaml03:46
Kennnaninclude gate-*-requirements job03:46
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openstackgerritBoris Pavlovic proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Revert "Adjust rally jobs to use ceilometer devstack plugin"  https://review.openstack.org/22870803:53
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KennnanAjaeger: I just find it. Thx03:59
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openstackgerritKai Qiang Wu(Kennan) proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add check-requirements jobs for kolla  https://review.openstack.org/22832704:22
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openstackgerritKai Qiang Wu(Kennan) proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add check-requirements jobs for kolla  https://review.openstack.org/22832704:55
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add doc jobs for requirements  https://review.openstack.org/22872404:59
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openstackgerritzhu.rong proposed openstack/requirements: Update pep8 to 1.6.2  https://review.openstack.org/22872705:11
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openstackgerritPaul Morie proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add control over more settings of github pull request builder plugin  https://review.openstack.org/22269005:48
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openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Remove topic:zanata from review link  https://review.openstack.org/22873205:49
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openstackgerritK Jonathan Harker proposed openstack-infra/puppet-logstash: Create a class to install and run curator  https://review.openstack.org/22274105:56
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints  https://review.openstack.org/22681606:07
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Reindent swift3 consistently  https://review.openstack.org/22865306:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Use 'python-jobs' in oslo.rootwrap and remove overlap  https://review.openstack.org/22757806:13
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* ruagair needs to log a bug or query against openstack-infra/puppet-phabricator - via story board or launchpad?06:39
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StevenKruagair: I'd suggest phabricator as a troll06:40
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StevenKruagair: However, infra uses storyboard06:40
nibalizerstory ya06:40
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Translations Liberty: Project update  https://review.openstack.org/22874506:45
yolandamorning06:45
nibalizero/06:45
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ruagairThanks for the confirmation, StevenK, nibalizer06:49
ruagairmorning yolanda06:49
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waynrodgrim: ping06:51
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odgrimhi06:52
odgrimwaynr: I saw pelix earlier but he seemed tired. I agreed to wake up early tomorrow/tonight in an effort to figure out what we're doing06:53
AJaegerianw: Could you review of https://review.openstack.org/228745, please?06:57
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sirushtiCould a project-config core please redo WF+1 here -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220125/ It's affecting Heat's gate!07:01
waynrcool, was just working on some JJB stuff and thought i'd check in07:01
AJaegersirushti: it's needs a rebase first...07:02
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adjust heat jobs to use ceilometer devstack plugin  https://review.openstack.org/22012507:02
waynrnot sure i'll be up early enough tomorrow, but i think i pretty much summed up my thoughts in that comment07:02
AJaegersirushti: I'm on it07:02
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sirushtiAJaeger, cool, thanks!07:02
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Translations Liberty: Project update  https://review.openstack.org/22874507:04
AJaegersirushti: are you a heat core?07:06
sirushtiAJaeger, nope07:06
AJaegersirushti: ok, no worries07:06
gmannAJaeger: can you please have a look in free time - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221608/07:06
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AJaegergmann: that needs a QA/tempest review, let me add mtreinish to it.07:08
AJaegerah, he's there already, please ask him whether he's fine, otherwise this won't merge...07:08
gmannAJaeger: sure07:08
gmannmtreinish: ^^07:08
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/jeepyb: Make SMTP connection configurable  https://review.openstack.org/21473307:08
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ruagairWhen you're about jeblair, mordred, you might be able to point this in the right direction: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000366 <- Thanks!07:12
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Adjust heat jobs to use ceilometer devstack plugin  https://review.openstack.org/22012507:15
yolandajhesketh, i'm reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228703/1/tools/apply-test.sh , about zuul cloner timeouts. Do you think it's possible to add a timeout setting directly on zuul cloner instead?07:15
StevenKruagair: The latter07:16
StevenKruagair: IE, patch the migrator07:17
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Translations Liberty: Project update  https://review.openstack.org/22874507:17
StevenKStoryboard's SQL schema has moved on, the tool should keep up07:17
ruagairAh, thanks StevenK.07:17
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odgrimwaynr: yep, we'll figure something out. your three use cases are currently the 3 laws of deleting/updating jjb jobs07:20
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-puppet: Populate master and agent configurations on demand  https://review.openstack.org/22788007:59
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Nothing to see here  https://review.openstack.org/11101108:09
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gmanndizquierdo: ping08:26
openstackgerritMaty Grosz proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Changes: Vitrage - Initialize new Openstack project  https://review.openstack.org/22878108:27
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Nothing to see here  https://review.openstack.org/11101108:28
dizquierdogmann, pong and I still owe you the repo staff u_u08:29
dizquierdoI was yesterday updating the list of repos08:29
gmanndizquierdo: :) yea i pinged regarding the same08:29
gmanndizquierdo: ohk cool.08:29
dizquierdoei gmann just a reminder, the repo you were interested in08:29
dizquierdowas the governance one?08:29
gmanndizquierdo: yea, congress http://governance.openstack.org/reference/projects/congress.html08:31
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dizquierdoyeah, that was, thanks for the reminder gmann08:34
dizquierdothat's already in the loop, it was not previously analyzed08:35
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gmanndizquierdo: ok. Thanks08:42
dizquierdothanks for the ping gmann08:42
gmanndizquierdo: np! Thanks for your time. looking for process of updating the same :)08:43
dizquierdoyep08:43
dizquierdobtw gmann attending the summit?08:43
dizquierdoI'll be around just in case you liked to talk a bit more about the activity board08:44
gmanndizquierdo: yea, m in Tokyo itself :)08:44
dizquierdoah great :)08:44
dizquierdo^^08:44
gmanndizquierdo: sure that will be great08:44
dizquierdook, keep in touch then :)08:44
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gmanndizquierdo: sure, see you in summit08:44
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openstackgerritPranav Salunke proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create new project training-labs  https://review.openstack.org/21834509:10
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openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Disable requirements liberty/master cross-check  https://review.openstack.org/22880509:12
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ttxclarkb: proposed change to disable cross-check jobs ^09:13
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Nothing to see here  https://review.openstack.org/11101109:37
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openstackgerritTobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Retry change query if change not found  https://review.openstack.org/20604309:39
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openstackgerritNisha Agarwal proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Prevent overwriting of user modified blacklist.conf  https://review.openstack.org/22088310:10
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openstackgerritNisha Agarwal proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Reorder the script number of 'elements/dkms/post-install.d/99-dkms'  https://review.openstack.org/22088510:12
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openstackgerritNisha Agarwal proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add a new element hpdsa  https://review.openstack.org/22088810:24
openstackgerritMaty Grosz proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Changes: Vitrage - Initialize new Openstack project  https://review.openstack.org/22882310:25
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/requirements: Add simple doc publisher target  https://review.openstack.org/22869410:34
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openstackgerritMaty Grosz proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Changes: Vitrage - Initialize new Openstack project  https://review.openstack.org/22883510:44
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mgroszHello, I am adding a new OpenStack project, named Vitrage. I am in a point I need to contact one of the OpenStack Infra team (according to the instractions here: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html)10:59
yolandahi mgrosz11:00
mgroszHi11:00
yolandahow can i help?11:00
mgroszI see my patch has successfuly passed Jenkins11:00
mgroszNow what?11:00
mgroszhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/228835/11:00
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yolandawe need to review your patch11:01
yolandaonce it gets a pair of +2, and it's approved, project will be created11:01
mgroszOK. This is something that happens when?11:01
yolandaduring these days, are cores are reviewing that11:01
mgroszOK, thanks.11:02
yolandahave you created a change for the governance project as well?11:02
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yolandamgrosz, i see your change updates some config about switf here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228835/1/gerritbot/channels.yaml11:04
yolandacan you check it?11:04
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mgroszchecking11:06
mgrosz"have you created a change for the governance project as well? " - what do you mean?11:07
yolandalook at http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html - Add new repository to the Governance Repository11:07
mgroszRegarding swift - I didn't change anything. I only added Vitrage project channel. I don't know from where the changes of swift are coming.11:08
yolandaseems like a bad rebase, can you check?11:08
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mgrosz"f your project is not intended to be an official OpenStack project" - we don't know yet. It is optional.11:09
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mgroszHow do I fix, if I need to fix it?11:09
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yolandaok, if that's not official is fine11:10
yolandaand for the swift , amend the change, be sure that you are not adding these extra spaces11:10
jheskethyolanda: re zuul cloner.. yes, totally.. and it probably should be a feature... how does it currently fail (if you know)11:10
yolandajhesketh, we had a problem downstream, let me check if i can find the logs11:11
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openstackgerritKun Huang proposed openstack-infra/project-config: enable cinder v1 for rally jobs  https://review.openstack.org/22885211:15
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yolandajhesketh, i don't have exact logs, but problems were on zuul-cloner timing out when cloning some repos. I guess network was slow, zuul-cloner was taking so much time to clone, waiting until jenkins job ended for timeout11:17
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jheskethhmm okay11:19
openstackgerritKun Huang proposed openstack-infra/project-config: enable cinder v1 for rally jobs  https://review.openstack.org/22885211:19
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jheskethso the cloner just uses the python-git library.. I'm not sure when that times out. In general though, adding some wrapping for time outs could be useful11:20
jheskethI suspect it should be quite high by default though11:20
jheskethor be an arg you can set11:20
yolandaso timrc created that change on the test, i think it's better if that kind of wrapping is added to zuul cloner, with some args, yes11:21
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openstackgerritJuan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable Python 3X jobs for python-tripleoclient  https://review.openstack.org/22885511:22
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openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add non-voting job to test Cinder with Block Device Driver backend  https://review.openstack.org/22885711:33
mgroszyolanda: "can you describe a bit more the change, specially the devstack bits?" Can you explain what should I do?11:33
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yolandamgrosz, i want to know why are you adding these devstack changes, for a project creation11:34
yolandaif that's intentional, i'd like to know the reason11:34
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mgroszIt is a decision made by our managers. We would like to initiate a new project to develop an engine for organizing, analyzing and expanding OpenStack alarms & events, yielding insights regarding the Root Cause of problems and deducing the existence of problems before they are directly detected.11:36
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mgroszyolanda: It is a decision made by our managers. We would like to initiate a new project to develop an engine for organizing, analyzing and expanding OpenStack alarms & events, yielding insights regarding the Root Cause of problems and deducing the existence of problems before they are directly detected.11:37
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yolandamm, i see you abandoned the change?11:38
yolandaso for that DEVSTACK_LOCAL_CONFIG change, if that's not directly related with the project creation, i'd prefer if you can send that on a different patch11:38
mgroszYes. I will push a new one, as was suggested by someone else (see comments) - without the erros11:38
yolandaok11:39
mgrosz"you can send that on a different patch " - send what?11:39
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yolandahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/228835/1/jenkins/jobs/heat.yaml11:39
mgrosz"hat DEVSTACK_LOCAL_CONFIG change" - what is this parameter?11:39
yolandais that related to your project?11:39
mgroszWill be removed in my new patch11:40
yolandaok11:40
mgroszIt seems like I had a bad update...11:40
yolandaso seems you did a bad rebase, and some unrelated changes were added with your patch11:40
mgroszYes.... Won't be added in my new one11:40
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yolandacool thx11:41
bookwarhi, all. we have functional tests for the project, which require PostgreSQL database to be available during test run. Is it possible to run those tests at Openstack Infra? Are there any examples how one can configure the DB before running the test?11:41
mgroszyolanda, again: "can you describe a bit more the change, specially the devstack bits?" Can you explain what should I do?11:41
mgroszWhat are devstack bits?11:41
yolandanothing at this point, as you included that by error11:41
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yolandai wanted that you explained the changes for DEVSTACK_LOCAL_CONFIG in your commit, but as it's a mistake, just ignore this...11:42
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openstackgerritMaty Grosz proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Changes: Vitrage - Initialize new OpenStack project  https://review.openstack.org/22886011:45
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mgroszyolanda, can you please check ? (sorry for the mess... it is my first time...O11:48
yolandamgrosz, no problem11:48
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openstackgerritzhu.rong proposed openstack/requirements: Update pep8 to 1.6.2  https://review.openstack.org/22872711:50
yolandamgrosz, i suggest that you clean your environment, before sending that. I see that the new patch is depending on an abandoned one, so it can cause problems to merge it11:51
yolandaif you can resend, cleaning up that dependency, it will be ok11:51
yolandamm, i also see you are missing more things again, i see changes on oslo now11:51
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yolandai suggest you completely remove your branch where you have this project,and start from scratch11:52
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mgroszyolanda: I am asked to send a complete new change. I thought I did it, but then I see that me change has dependency on old abandoned (by me) change. How do I send my changes in a whole new change/patch?12:01
mgroszme changes = my changes12:01
yolandai'd just remove the folder where you are working on12:01
yolandaclone again12:01
yolandaand reproduce it12:01
mgrosz???12:01
mgroszsorry... Did you mean clone again the project?12:02
yolandaso remove your local folder where you are working on, and clone again from scratch, so you start without conflicts12:02
yolandayes12:02
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/diskimage-builder: Contains the directory name of /sys and /proc  https://review.openstack.org/21506012:28
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openstackgerritMaty Grosz proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Changes: Vitrage - Initialize new OpenStack project  https://review.openstack.org/22886912:28
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mgroszyolanda: I have a question regarding groups I defined in the acls/vitrage.config file: vitrage-core and vitrage-release.12:31
mgroszWhere do I define those groups?12:31
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mgroszAre these launchpad groups?12:31
yolandathose are gerrit groups, will be created automatically once your change lands12:32
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mgroszAnd when do I add their members?12:33
yolandaif you are the owner of this project, we will add you as group member as well12:33
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mgroszWill it be possible to change it later?12:33
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yolandathe group name?12:35
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mgroszNo, the memebers of the groups and its owner12:36
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openstackgerritGlauco Oliveira proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Add provisioning scripts.  https://review.openstack.org/22784912:37
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openstackgerritOleksii Chuprykov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add job for testing heat api against apache2  https://review.openstack.org/22887812:41
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openstackgerritDaniel Izquierdo proposed openstack-infra/activity-board: OpenStack community activity report Q3, 2015  https://review.openstack.org/22887912:41
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mgroszyolanda: what does it mean in vitrage.config jenkins failure: There are 1 projects not normalized.12:43
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Added npm-publish-tarball  https://review.openstack.org/21215312:45
yolandait's failing the acl check12:45
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yolandamgrosz, if you look at openstack-infra/projec-config repo, in tools/normalize_acl.py, you can find the guidelines for the acl normalization12:47
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-logstash: Add acceptance tests for puppet-logstash.  https://review.openstack.org/22485812:49
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yolandamgrosz, i think that it fails because you added an extra newline at the end of the vitrage.config file12:50
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openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/requirements: Require ovs >= 2.4.0.  https://review.openstack.org/22888312:53
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openstackgerritMaty Grosz proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Changes: Vitrage - Initialize new OpenStack project  https://review.openstack.org/22888613:00
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e0nehi all! could anybody please review https://review.openstack.org/221399? it will unblock rally+cinder jobs13:23
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for largeops bug 1500615  https://review.openstack.org/22889513:26
openstackbug 1500615 in devstack "Large Ops scenario is taking too long" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1500615 - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem)13:26
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sdaguee0ne: what's the timeframe for rally actually supporting that? Because it's not clear those test jobs are valuable if that whole stack is being deleted by cinder13:39
sdagueit seems like the better option is to turn off those tests13:39
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e0nesdague: at the moment, rally supports only api v1 which is disabled by default13:40
sdagueright13:40
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sdagueand v1 is going to be deleted soon, so I don't understand the value in testing it13:40
sdagueit was disabled by default to get people to stop using it in tests13:40
clarkbbookwar see the nova unittests, postgres is available and used there. as ana ltrrnative you can have devstack install postgres instead of mysql13:40
e0neit will be deleted not earlier than in N release13:40
clarkbbookwar really depends on what "functional" testing entails for you13:41
e0nesdague: agree. but we need some more time for rally to support both versions13:41
sdaguee0ne: sure, but what is the value of these tests running on code that's marked for deletion13:41
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sdaguebasically, it's not clear to me why this is valuable given that it's not testing the thing that we want people using. And any regressions caught will probably not be cared about by the core team13:41
e0nesdague: tbh, almost all cinder coder are shared beteen v1 and v213:42
bookwarclarkb: thanks, i'll take a look13:42
sdaguee0ne: ok13:42
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e0nesdague: thanks a lot!13:43
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fungittx: 201693 needs workflow +1 toggled before it will merge13:50
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pabelangeryolanda: At this time, I don't see a need to delete or disable the cache for grafyaml.  Mostly because we don't for JJB13:53
yolandathere are flags in jjb to ignore cache13:53
pabelangerhowever, if you think it will be needed I can do a follow up patch13:53
pabelangerreally?13:53
pabelangerHmm, let me check13:53
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pabelangerWell, look at that13:54
pabelangerokay13:54
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pabelangermissed that13:54
nibalizermorning everyone13:54
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openstackgerritDanilo Ramalho proposed openstack-infra/puppet-gerrit: Setup preconditions for acceptance tests.  https://review.openstack.org/21940013:54
bltavaresmorning nibalizer (:13:54
yolandapabelanger, jjb is my old friend :)13:55
ttxfungi: done13:56
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openstackgerritClint Adams proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Test formatting of gerritbot/channels.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/22865613:57
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fungittx: should i update the topic on 227894 to formal-vote or is that just administrivia?13:58
pabelangernibalizer: timeshifting?13:58
ttxfungi: no formal vote required, will approve after one week if no objection13:59
nibalizerpabelanger: an early work/travel day today13:59
fungittx: thanks, just making sure13:59
pabelangernibalizer: Ah14:00
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fungittx: 213806 is another governance change in need of a workflow toggle14:13
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ttxfungi: done14:13
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/requirements: Require ovs >= 2.4.0.  https://review.openstack.org/22888314:14
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/os-testr: Fix issues with the blacklist file regex generation  https://review.openstack.org/21852714:21
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fungiclarkb: do you have a moment to give 228805 a once-over before we approve?14:22
fungithere is now a stable/liberty branched from the same commit as the master branch tip14:23
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mrmartinnibalizer, hi, https://github.com/puppet-community/puppet-git_resource/pull/16 this pull request solves a commit refresh event issue which is required for askbot.o.o upgrade. if you have a few minutes today, plz check and merge itt.14:25
mrmartinitt / it14:25
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clarkbfungi looking14:26
fungiclarkb: thanks, the release managers are preparing to open master for new changes so approve at will14:27
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clarkbok14:27
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create tempest-plugin-cookiecutter project  https://review.openstack.org/20838914:28
clarkbwe should follow up with a change to add some of those jobs to d-g and tempest14:28
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clarkband possibly remove juno?14:28
maishskGood afternoon - is this the right place to ask about an OpenStack profile problem/question/issue?14:29
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fungimaishsk: what do you mean by "openstack profile"?14:29
maishskhttps://www.openstack.org/community/members/profile/1526514:29
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maishskI am getting a 404 for some reason.14:30
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fungimaishsk: interesting, i get content at other profile pages, mine for example: https://www.openstack.org/community/members/profile/547914:31
maishskfungi: so hence my question… ;)14:31
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openstackgerritChris Burroughs proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: fix regression in url handling  https://review.openstack.org/22897114:31
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fungimaishsk: we don't maintain that system, but you can open a bug report for it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-org/+filebug and someone who does should hopefully be able to look into it14:32
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maishskthanks fungi ! Will do14:32
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Disable requirements liberty/master cross-check  https://review.openstack.org/22880514:34
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maishskfungi: so according to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-org/+bug/1373101 - it seems that this could be the issue.14:34
openstackLaunchpad bug 1373101 in openstack-org "Users valdez and gutierrez are not Individual members of Foundation" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Stefano Maffulli (smaffulli)14:34
anteayamtreinish: can you look at the rebase for this file: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208389/6/gerritbot/channels.yaml14:34
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maishskBut I definitely remember being a foundation member.14:34
openstackgerritChris Burroughs proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: fix regression in url handling  https://review.openstack.org/22897114:34
fungimaishsk: oh, if user 15265 isn't a foundation individual member then that could be the cause14:35
anteayamtreinish: Clint has been working on creating generated files for the big stackforge rename, and he has normalized the channels.yaml file regarding whitespace and alphabetization14:35
fungimaishsk: how long ago was that profile created? if it's been more than two years did you vote in the last two board elections?14:35
maishskfungi: AFAIK I should be.14:35
maishskI did, in both14:36
fungimaishsk: another possibility is that there were somehow two duplicate foundation member accounts and when they were deduplicated that's the one which was removed14:36
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fungimaishsk: is 15265 your account?14:36
maishskI should hope so14:36
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maishskTHE OPENSTACK FOUNDATION INDIVIDUAL MEMBER AGREEMENT (Signed: January 15, 2014)14:36
fungimaishsk: i find http://www.openstack.org/community/members/profile/26689 in the member directory. is that also you?14:37
mtreinishanteaya: did I screw up the rebase?14:37
maishskThat is me - why do I have two profiles?14:37
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anteayamtreinish: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227981/14:38
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mtreinishoh, I see I added 2 spaces to the front of it14:38
anteayamtreinish: yeah and the alphabetical order14:38
boris-42sdague: the value of those tests is that people who want to test their cloud can test them with Rally14:38
fungimaishsk: it's possible you accidentally joined twice. i think the admins for the foundation member database go through periodically and merge duplicate accounts14:38
anteayamtreinish: if you could be so kind14:38
boris-42sdague: and most people is using cinder v114:38
boris-42sdague: so we need to test v1 until people is using it14:39
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create tempest-plugin-cookiecutter project  https://review.openstack.org/20838914:39
Clintanteaya: thanks14:39
boris-42sdague: in any case we need to support tests for v2 as well (and that will be implemented as well)14:39
anteayaClint: thanks for doing the work, yours is an unforgiving task14:39
mtreinishanteaya: ^^^ that should be better14:39
anteayaClint: thanks for making progress14:39
anteayamtreinish: thank you14:39
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maishskfungi:  Do I need to contact someone - I don’t want this to cause any potential problems with TC elections.14:40
anteayamtreinish: 'tis, thank you14:41
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fungimaishsk: the bug reporting interface i directed you to... i recommend opening a bug mentioning your broken profile id number and the working one we found and asking to have it corrected back to the original profile. if you mention the bug number in here once it's filed i can separately ping the admins for that system through other channels and try to bring it to their attention14:43
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clarkbTC elections should be independent of your foundation profile right?14:44
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clarkbrequires atc not foundation memberahip but maybe one implies the other14:44
anteayaclarkb: foundation membership only14:45
anteayafor tc elections14:45
anteayaatc status is not required to stand as a tc candidate14:45
fungipart of the definition in the bylaws for atc is that you are a foundation individual member, but the tc elections don't actually require you to be an atc to run (just to vote, strangely)14:45
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clarkbright to vote14:45
fungihowever, yes they do say you need to be a foundation individual member to run for the tc, at least last i read14:46
anteayayes14:46
clarkbgotcha14:46
anteayaI learned that when someone who was not an atc stood as candidate14:46
fungiand i'm assuming maishsk is asking because of planning to run for the tc again this cycle14:46
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maishskfungi: That might be a correct assumption :)14:46
anteayaand went back to the by-laws to confirm and learned I had been wrong, then I coreected and posted to the mailing list so folks knew14:46
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anteayanotmyname: are you still interested in keeping this patch alive: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205723/114:47
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fungimgagne: i see you haven't reviewed jenkins-job-builder changes in a very long time. are you expecting to start reviewing them again soon or should we retire your core reviewership on it for now?14:48
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anteayagus dims so the blueprint has been merged for this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204477/ where are you on the reviews/rebase for it?14:50
clarkbso you may not be able to vote for yourself but you can run14:50
clarkbthats an odd setup14:50
anteayaclarkb: so says the by-laws14:50
fungiyeah, i think everyone finds it strange when they first realize that's what it actually says14:50
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anteayaSpamapS: did you want to reply to the comments on this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211796/14:51
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anteayaSergeyLukjanov: do you know this person? are they willing to abandon this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204159/14:53
maishskfungi: Bug has been submitted - https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-org/+bug/1500913. Thanks!14:53
openstackLaunchpad bug 1500913 in openstack-org "Duplicate profile" [Undecided,New]14:53
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anteayaclarkb fungi if one of you has a moment to weigh in an a {} matter for a jjb builder macro: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212246/114:55
anteayaI do think the double {{}} are required but can't recall why14:55
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fungianteaya: it depends on whether it's being expanded in the context of a job template or not and whether you want it to be treated as a jjb replacement parameter or a shell variable14:56
anteayaI thought that was what it was, thank you14:57
openstackgerritGlauco Oliveira proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Add provisioning scripts  https://review.openstack.org/22784914:57
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EmilienMnibalizer: puppet meeting, you wanna join?15:07
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clarkbmriedem: I think the live block migration test may have become a bit unstable15:12
clarkbmriedem: fails on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227542/ for example15:12
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SergeyLukjanovanteaya, I will contact them15:13
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anteayaSergeyLukjanov: thank you15:14
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openstackgerritJakub Ruzicka proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add new project pymod2pkg to openstack-rpm-packaging channel  https://review.openstack.org/22899315:14
openstackgerritJakub Ruzicka proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add new project renderspec to openstack-rpm-packaging channel  https://review.openstack.org/22899415:14
mtreinishclarkb: the one mriedem just added to do the live migration with a volume backed server?15:14
mtreinishclarkb: oh, that's a fun failure: http://logs.openstack.org/42/227542/7/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-full/c03f51d/console.html#_2015-09-29_00_36_39_97015:15
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clarkbmtreinish: no I think this is the existing test15:16
mtreinisha change in success code, tempest expected a 200 and it got a 202 from cinder15:16
clarkbmtreinish: block is the built into libvirt block by block migration from hypervisor to hypvisor15:16
clarkbmtreinish: which is in no one confusing with cinder block storage based volume migrations also being possible15:16
clarkbs/one/way/15:17
mtreinishthat failure I linked from the patch you mentioned was the new test which is cinder backed15:17
clarkboh it is15:18
clarkbfun15:18
clarkbok well the right people have eyes on it now then :)15:18
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mtreinishwell, except I don't know why tempest is expecting a 200 and cinder is returning a 202 on create volume15:19
mtreinishjgriffith: ^^^ any ideas?15:19
jgriffithmtreinish: did we screw the pooch on v2?15:19
mtreinishoh, that would explain it15:19
jgriffithmtreinish: given that v2 just landed as default in devstack the other day15:19
mtreinishyeah that's probably it15:20
jgriffithmtreinish: Yup15:20
jgriffithmtreinish: looking at the code the V2 api returns a 202 now :(15:20
mtreinishtempest thinks it's using v1 but it's actually using v215:20
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jgriffithmtreinish: indeed15:21
jgriffithSurprised we haven't seen more of this sort of thing (good surprise)15:21
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/requirements: Require ovs >= 2.4.0.  https://review.openstack.org/22888315:21
jgriffithmtreinish: you want me to push a patch to tempest?15:21
jgriffithmtreinish: or do you have a version disco mechanism already?15:22
mtreinishjgriffith: go for it, we don't have a generic mechanism in place yet15:22
jgriffithmtreinish: cool, I'll take a shot at it15:23
jgriffiththanks15:23
mtreinishit's been 1 offs the couple of places where the api version doesn't matter15:23
mtreinishwe probably should extract that at some point15:23
jgriffithmtreinish: I'd like to capture that data15:23
jgriffithmtreinish: so when people start flipping the bit in production we can help them15:23
jgriffithmtreinish: maybe add it to docs15:23
mtreinishjgriffith: the most recent I can think of was: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228881/15:24
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jgriffithcool15:24
clarkbjeblair: 227542 succeeded on centos on the most recent run so  Ithink that change is ready to go in and should make us ready for ovh15:25
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jeblairclarkb: the combined matrix of the 2 most recent runs is all green :)15:26
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clarkbjeblair: mtreinish and jgriffith seem to understand the mutlinode fails so not too worried about them15:27
mriedemmtreinish: just got back, but sounds like jgriffith has the fix15:27
mriedemwhat clarkb just said :)15:27
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mriedemi'll open a bug if no one has yet15:27
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openstackgerritJakub Ruzicka proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add new project pymod2pkg to openstack-rpm-packaging channel  https://review.openstack.org/22789115:28
openstackgerritJakub Ruzicka proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add new project renderspec to openstack-rpm-packaging channel  https://review.openstack.org/22789215:28
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mtreinishclarkb: yeah, it's because the default cinder version endpoint in the sc changed to be v2. So when tempest makes a create volume request in that test it is expecting a v1 api response15:28
mtreinishbut actually gets a v2, which is what is causing that failure15:28
mriedemjgriffith: mtreinish: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/150092415:28
openstackLaunchpad bug 1500924 in tempest "test_volume_backed_live_migration fails against cinder v2 API" [Undecided,New]15:28
jeblairclarkb: +2; i think we could +3 with the attention that's got, but not sure if you wanted any further review15:28
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anteayafungi: thank you, I added a link to your original patch which discussed the double braces15:30
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mriedemmtreinish: shouldn't http://logs.openstack.org/42/227542/7/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-full/c03f51d/console.html#_2015-09-29_00_36_39_970 be in tempest.txt?15:31
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mriedemi guess it's a good thing that nova isn't checking the api response from cinder when creating a volume15:32
mriedemjust polling for status15:32
clarkbjeblair: would probably be good to get sdague to look at it and make sure it doesn't impact grenade in any way15:32
clarkbjeblair: but that should be mostly 1:1 for the grenade case15:32
jgriffithmriedem: oh nice.. there's already the ability to specify a list of codes in the exepected_success method :)15:33
jgriffithThat makes it easy15:33
mtreinishmriedem: it should be in there, there's something with the logging fixture so it doesn't end up in tempest.log15:33
mriedemmtreinish: yeah bug15:33
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mtreinishI never did get to the bottom of it15:33
mriedemjgriffith: i'll take 0 credit for that15:33
jgriffithmriedem: kudos!!!15:33
jgriffith:)15:33
jeblairSubject: ** WARNING: Filesystem on subunit2sql-MySQL **15:33
jeblairWARNING - Less than 10% free space left.15:34
mtreinishjgriffith: are there multiple response codes expected for a single versions?15:34
mtreinishjgriffith: uh oh15:34
jeblairmtreinish: ^15:34
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mtreinishs/jgriffith/jeblair15:34
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/grafyaml: Add caching support  https://review.openstack.org/22600215:34
mtreinishjeblair: well I guess it's time I revive: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176564/15:34
* jgriffith notes this hat fits rather nicely15:34
mtreinishwhich was my idea for trimming the db size15:35
mtreinishalthough maybe if we had a way to archive the data that would be better before we pruned it15:35
jeblairmtreinish: there's no purging currently?15:35
mtreinishno15:35
pabelangeryolanda: ^ not able to disable the cache15:35
pabelangererr15:35
pabelangeryolanda: now*15:35
mtreinishwhich is why we're encroaching on 300GB used :)15:36
sdagueclarkb: which thing is this?15:36
yolandaah cool15:36
jeblairsdague: 22754215:36
anteayanibalizer: where are you on this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191247/15:36
clarkbsdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227542/7 its specifically a work around for the OVH network situation15:36
pabelangeryolanda: test coverage too15:36
yolandaon a meeting in few minutes, i'll take a look later15:36
clarkbsdague: on OVH VMs get a single nic eth0 with ip addr like 10.0.1.25/32 and default route 10.1.25.1 dev eth015:36
clarkbsdague: when you run nova net against this it breaks connectivity when eth0's config is moved to br10015:37
sdaguehmmm15:37
jeblairclarkb: (except not a 10.)15:37
pabelangeryolanda: ya, have to walk daughter to school so will be AFK too15:37
clarkbsdague: so the workaround is to not connect nova net to eth0 at all and use the overlay networking on single node as well15:37
sdagueso, would it make sense to make devstack itself resilient to this?15:37
clarkbjeblair: right it is a public IP15:37
jeblairmtreinish: i think we should probably have purging of some sort, and then of course we can size db appropriately15:37
sdagueinstead of overlay in d-g15:37
yolandai'll take a look before infra meeting15:37
pabelangertimrc: did you get a chance to review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226047/ ?15:37
clarkbsdague: long run yes it probably does make sense15:37
pabelangerthat's the slug stuff15:38
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timrcpabelanger, I think I reviewed once, but not again.  I'll do so now.15:38
jeblairsdague, clarkb: i agree this would be better in devstack in the long run (so that ./stack.sh works on an ovh instance)15:38
sdagueclarkb: so there is only a single interface on the ovh nodes?15:39
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jeblairsdague, clarkb: but this seems like a reasonable short-term fix15:39
clarkbsdague: basically nova network does not know how to copy a default route specification that isn't in an overlapping ip range15:39
mtreinishjeblair: sure, that's what that patch does it purges data over 6 months old from the db15:39
timrcpabelanger, Ah good stuff you added the duplication detection.15:39
clarkbsdague: yes one interface15:39
jeblairmtreinish: yup15:39
mtreinishI was just wondering if we wanted to do something with the old data before we delete it15:39
pabelangertimrc: indeed15:39
sdagueclarkb: so each node has a point to point link in it?15:40
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/puppet-subunit2sql: Add cron job to run weekly prune the data set of db  https://review.openstack.org/17656415:40
mtreinishjeblair: ^^^15:40
sdagueso, I'm fine with this d-g change, I think it's fine15:40
clarkbsdague: the way I understand it they are forcing all traffic to happen over l315:40
clarkbsdague: proably because they have some sort of fun l2 isolation setup15:40
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for cinder v2 live migration bug 1500924  https://review.openstack.org/22901215:40
openstackbug 1500924 in tempest "test_volume_backed_live_migration fails against cinder v2 API" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1500924 - Assigned to John Griffith (john-griffith)15:40
clarkbso to enable VM to VM communication you hit the router rather than doing l2 traffic15:40
jeblairclarkb: which to be fair, is quite likely what you might end up doing anywhere else too :)15:41
clarkbjeblair: ya its funky but not entirely unreasonable15:41
sdagueclarkb: can pastebin the entire ip addr show / ip route show, just so I can have it in my head15:41
sdagueI just +Aed the d-g change15:42
clarkbjeblair: ^ have a link to that etherpad handy?15:42
clarkbnevermind I found it15:42
clarkbsdague: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Nx3HWzyjIq15:42
timrcpabelanger, I don't see any fixture data that tests that duplicate exception codepath though..15:42
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Use shade for all OpenStack interactions  https://review.openstack.org/22675115:43
clarkbsdague: you wnat to look at the post devstack paste15:43
jeblairsdague: you'll want the "OVH" "post-boot" section15:43
timrcpabelanger, Oh maybe I should read all the test code first :)15:43
mordredclarkb, jeblair: that's close - still not there, but close15:43
clarkband or post boot15:43
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pabelangertimrc: :)15:43
Shrewsmordred: ooh, that's an exciting change15:43
timrcpabelanger, Reviewed.  Very nice work15:44
sdagueclarkb: so, this isn't a devstack thing15:44
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mordredclarkb, jeblair: I have 2 questions - a) it seems to still be hanging on a thread issue and I could use an extra eyeball b) I commented out one test that I wasn't sure the _best_ way to do and would love opinions15:44
mordredShrews: ^^ you too15:44
sdagueit's nova network that does that migration15:44
mordredShrews: yes it it!15:44
clarkbsdague: yes15:44
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jeblairsdague: the tldr for devstack -> tempest is that nova-net is reponsible for creating the bridge, and will not do it because the router is not on the local network15:44
Shrewsmordred: why 0.9.0?15:44
sdagueok, right15:44
pabelangertimrc: cool. stepping out. thanks15:44
sdagueso it's really a nova-net fix15:44
pabelangerif any other infra-core wants to review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22604715:44
mordredShrews: no reason. it should be 0.14.0. thanks15:44
mtreinishjeblair: wait, on that warning from rax is it the cinder volume that we're at <10% free on?15:45
jeblairsdague: arguably -- but dansmith was saying things like not wanting nova-net to do this sort of thing at all :)15:45
pabelangershould be ready to merge into grafyaml15:45
pabelangerAFK15:45
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Use shade for all OpenStack interactions  https://review.openstack.org/22675115:45
Shrewsmordred: though, we should really make a 0.15.0 release to fix that glance issue15:45
Shrewsotherwise it probably won't work on HP15:45
dansmithjeblair: yeah, but not from the "likely to change at this point" perspective15:45
Shrewsrcarrillocruz: have you had a chance to test the image stuff with the new shade?15:45
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mtreinishjeblair: because I think we're only at like 235GB used: http://paste.openstack.org/show/474697/15:46
sdagueright, so we've actually generally been pushing back against neutron making devstack do a bunch of interface shuffle before it comes up, assuming it should know how to configure the interfaces.15:46
dansmithjeblair: sdague: if it's a small change to n-net's startup code, then that's cool, but accounting for every possible silly host network setup possibility doesn't seem worth it to me15:46
rcarrillocruznot yet, i've had an issue with our BM cloud, been doing redeploys the whole day15:46
rcarrillocruzi'll test later in the evening tho15:46
rcarrillocruzShrews: ^15:47
jeblairmtreinish: i guess there's another 30G in operating system + mysql overhead?15:47
mtreinishjeblair: well assuming stack overflow can be trusted for the statement to figure out how much data is used15:47
mordredoh! I think I see the issue15:47
mordredShrews: ++15:47
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Shrewsrcarrillocruz: no worries. i think mordred could verify for us, too15:47
jeblairmtreinish: the alert from rax was for the trove instance15:47
mtreinishjeblair: but I would have expected that to be on the ephemeral disk, and isn't the actual db on a cinder volume15:47
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jeblairmtreinish: trove is opaque to us15:48
mtreinishjeblair: right, so I'm wondering if the os and mysql overhead is filling up the image's disk15:48
mtreinishwhich wouldn't be good because trove is opaque to us15:48
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clarkbmordred: it looks like you have fake openstack cloud using the fake list now, did that correct a bunch of the hanging tests?15:49
jeblairmtreinish: i'll see if there's any additional info in the cloud panel thingy15:49
mordredclarkb: some - not all15:49
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mordredclarkb: still working through them - just found where one of them is going wrong15:49
clarkbmordred: ok, well at least I was semi on the right trackj there15:50
mordredyah15:50
mordredit's way helpful to squash15:50
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jeblairmordred: ++ (and i don't really want to review a complex temporary patch to fakes; swapping them out one api unit at a time seems good to me)15:50
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jeblairmtreinish: i don't see any info about a separate system disk; only about the single "disk" that is 300G.  it says it's using 265/300GB.15:52
timrcWas getting tired of Correct Horse Battery Staple15:52
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jeblairmordred: there's a button that says "Add Replica"15:52
mtreinishoh, ok I thought there was a cinder volume attached for the actual db15:53
mtreinishI guess it was just a 300gb system disk then15:53
jeblairmtreinish: i don't know how it works.15:53
jeblairmtreinish: it may or may not be a cinder volume.15:53
mtreinishno it was just my misunderstanding15:53
jeblairmtreinish: it's opaque to us.15:53
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jeblairmordred: do you want me to look at your patch, or are you fixing something?15:54
mordredjeblair: I'm fixing something15:54
mordredjeblair: lemme fix it before you start looking15:55
openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Use Cinder API v1 for Rally tests  https://review.openstack.org/22139915:55
mtreinishjeblair: ok well the prune patch is up, that should definitely cleanup a bunch of space15:56
* mtreinish notes next time to not use trove15:56
openstackgerritChristopher Aedo proposed openstack-infra/puppet-apps_site: Add SSL support for apps.openstack.org.  https://review.openstack.org/22698415:56
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jeblairmtreinish: why not use trove?15:57
mtreinishjeblair: it's opaque to us15:57
mtreinishit's caused issues in the past15:58
jeblairmtreinish: i don't think it's causing an issue now.15:58
mtreinishand I'd rather just know what's going on15:58
pelixzaro: you about?15:58
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jeblairmtreinish: we've certainly had issues with it, but once we found out we needed to change some of the insane defaults, it seems to be working well enough.15:58
mtreinishjeblair: no not now, but there were some configuration issues a few months ago with the partition table15:58
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mtreinishand we couldnt change that conf value without knowing the partition table of the system16:00
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BobBall /j #openstack-meeting16:00
jeblairmtreinish: this isn't ringing a bell, but i'd like to know more.  can you point me at something?16:01
BobBallsoz :)16:01
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for cinder v2 live migration bug 1500924  https://review.openstack.org/22901216:01
openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Add documentation for third-party-ci setup  https://review.openstack.org/22758416:01
openstackbug 1500924 in tempest "test_volume_backed_live_migration fails against cinder v2 API" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1500924 - Assigned to John Griffith (john-griffith)16:01
JeanFredHi folks. I trust this is the right place for JJB-related issues ?16:01
clarkbJeanFred: yup16:01
JeanFredThanks clarkb :)16:02
pleia2good morning16:02
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Use shade for all OpenStack interactions  https://review.openstack.org/22675116:02
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mordredjeblair: ok. that's working better now - it's now worth looking at16:03
mtreinishjeblair: it was the temp dir, when I added a migration to add a couple columns for a larger table it errored out saying insufficient space16:03
Shrewsmordred: my -1 from the last revision still needs addressed16:03
mtreinishjeblair: we had to work around it with manually writing the sql to not use alter table16:03
mordredShrews: awesome. I will address it16:03
JeanFredSince today I’m having trouble updating my jobs to my Jenkins instance. It fails in mutate_plugin_info, while trying to parse plugin version numbers, with TypeError: expected string or buffer.16:04
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mtreinishjeblair: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/subunit2sql/commit/?id=86b867521ec085a81dd95760ccd4800939bcd50216:04
JeanFred(I’m not exactly sure what might be the cause since (shame on me) JJB was not pinned in my tox file.)16:04
clarkbJeanFred: I know zaro did a python-jenkins release yesterday it is possible that is related. Can you check what version of python-jenkins you ahve installed? use `pip freeze | grep jenkins`16:04
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clarkbJeanFred: if you have the latest version installed you might try downgrading python-jenkins to the previous version and testing that, if it works we can bisect further16:05
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Use shade for all OpenStack interactions  https://review.openstack.org/22675116:05
JeanFredclarkb: Right, I did not think of python-jenkins. Looks like I’m running 0.4.916:05
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clarkbJeanFred: that is the latest version try pip install -U python-jenkins==0.4.816:06
clarkbzaro: ^ btw this may interest you16:06
clarkbJeanFred: and ya if that works its just a matter of bisecting to figure out what changed and broke16:07
jeblairmtreinish: thanks16:07
jeblairmordred: ack16:08
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mordredjeblair: found one more issue ...16:08
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Use shade for all OpenStack interactions  https://review.openstack.org/22675116:08
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mordredk. now I'm going to work on packing so will stop pushing revw16:08
jeblairmordred: packing suggests that you unpacked at some point... :)16:09
mgagnefungi: you can remove myself from the core team. I'll win my way back in if I start to review again. ty16:10
fungimgagne: appreciated! i'm in the process of updating the core review group there for improved throughput. you're of course welcome back any time16:10
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/os-testr: Add whitelist file support  https://review.openstack.org/21691116:12
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JeanFredclarkb: Pinning to python-jenkins==0.4.8 works like a charm. Thanks16:16
clarkbzaro: ^ so new release broke something16:16
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anteayaso it looks like rain here and I would like to get a walk in before the meetings begin16:18
anteayaback in a while16:18
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zaromorning16:22
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zaropelix, clarkb : looks like revert is in order? it's definately from this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154316/16:23
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clarkbzaro: or fix jjb and add a min version to jjb16:24
zaroor fix i guess16:24
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zaroanteaya: sorry i didn't mean to ignore you.  i was thinking about your proposal from yesterday.  ping me when you are back.16:25
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/os-testr: Add whitelist file support  https://review.openstack.org/21691116:26
anteayazaro: actually the rain started as soon as I stood up to go out16:27
jeblairmordred: two things:  first -- i left questions on the change wondering why the qcow format stuff was removed.16:27
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anteayazaro: so no I didn't feel you were ignoring me, but thanks for confirming that, I just felt you had other things on your mind16:27
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anteayazaro: so great, thank you, let's discuss16:27
anteayazaro: how would you like to proceed16:27
jeblairmordred, clarkb: second -- it looks like the test you had problems with was related to a thing we do with ProxyErrors.  in nodepool, if an api call returns a requests..ProxyError, we make a new client connection and immediately retry the request; if we get a second ProxyError, we bubble it up (which probably means evuntally deleting instances, etc)16:28
fungihashar: pelix: zaro: waynr: zxiiro: see http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2015-September/003238.html for formal announcement of jjb-core updates16:28
pelixzaro: sorry what have I missed that the change broke?16:29
clarkbjeblair: right that was to deal with hpclouds proxies iirc16:29
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hashar-meetingfungi: will read. Thanks for the ping16:29
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jeblairmordred, clarkb: i believe that shade will be handling that in the future; though i see no special handling of ProxyError in shade, so i assume it will be caught by a general handler and masked into an OpenStackCloudException16:29
zaropelix: maybe JeanFred can fill you in?16:30
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jeblairmordred, clarkb: at any rate, i sort of think that the responsibility for handling that has moved from nodepool to shade...16:30
clarkbjeblair: agreed16:30
pelixwhat's mutate_plugin_info from?16:30
zxiirofungi: thanks!16:30
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jeblairmordred, clarkb: it probably isn't _actually_ handled in shade in the same way it's handled in nodepool now; but maybe we just go with it and see where we need to improve shade if it comes up?16:31
clarkbjeblair: wfm16:31
fungijeblair: any warnings i should be aware of before running the maintain-infra-groups.py script?16:32
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fungii've reviewed it so i don't think there are any surprises lurking, but it's light on comments16:32
pelixJeanFred zaro: I'll have a quick look to see if it can be fixed, otherwise yes revert and release16:32
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jeblairfungi: i don't see any outstanding changes to it in my queue, so i think all my fixes have merged; so nope!  and good luck!16:32
zarozxiiro: ^ we have a jjb regression16:33
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/os-testr: Add whitelist file support  https://review.openstack.org/21691116:33
fungithanks jeblair16:33
zxiirozaro: thanks for the heads up16:34
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pelixzaro: maybe we should look at adding a job to python-jenkins to test JJB with latest python-jenkins for the check/gate16:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for largeops bug 1500615  https://review.openstack.org/22889516:35
openstackbug 1500615 in devstack "Large Ops scenario is taking too long" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1500615 - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem)16:35
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anteayazaro: have you time now or would you prefer to talk later?16:36
zaropelix: hmm, good idea... zxiiro, you interested?16:36
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zarozxiiro: haha, jk :)16:36
zxiirozaro: I'm actually on holidays until OpenStack Summit ;)16:36
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zxiirozaro: In Denver at the moment16:37
zarogood times for you... vacation now and after summit?  what a life!16:37
kiran-rsdague: SergeyLukjanov: Please review this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221399/16:38
zxiirohaha yeah, I kinda didn't use any PTO for awhile so had quite a few saved up. I have to use them before I lose them so I just did.16:38
zaroanteaya: i'm going to look into the broken jjb right now. can i get back with you in a little bit?16:38
anteayazaro: sure the rain has stopped, I'll take my walk now, and ping you when I return16:38
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anteayazaro: thanks16:38
kiran-rsdague, SergeyLukjanov: The above patch was already approved but it failed merge. Please review it ASAP.16:39
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SpamapSanteaya: I do want to get rustygear in there, but it has dropped low on priority. I promise I'll revisit once I stop dealing with employer-change-churn16:40
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pelixzaro: I think the problem is that PluginVersion class doesn't subclass a string class16:42
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zaropelix: i assume you are able to repro?16:44
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Use Cinder API v1 for Rally tests  https://review.openstack.org/22139916:45
zaropelix: looking now16:46
pelixyeap, could solve the problem by always requiring classes that use the plugin version to explicitly convert to a string, or alternatively change get_plugins_info() to use the old method so it doesn't even rely on it being transparent, use the old API to get the json just converted to a dict, use the new API that will convert part of the data to use the plugin helpers16:47
pelixI think probably better to switch get_plugins_info and get_plugin_info back to it's their behaviour instead of having them call 'get_plugins()'16:47
pelixthat'll fix the regression16:47
openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed openstack-infra/project-config: osops-tools-generic: add bashate job  https://review.openstack.org/22904316:47
pelixunless there is a way to subclass str that is both python 2 & 3 compatible?16:48
fungipelix: i think six.stringtype might be subclassable for that? i haven't tried though16:48
pabelangerfungi: nice email to ML, I was considering doing the same for grafyaml16:51
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fungipabelanger: if there are core reviewer team changes you need made to openstack-infra/grafyaml let me know, though that one's likely a bit more malleable due to its relative youth16:52
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waynrfungi: cool, thanks for the ping on that16:53
zaropelix: i'm fine with your suggestions to switch methods back then try fungi's suggestion afterwards.16:53
pabelangerfungi: I vote timrc be added :) Assuming he wants it16:53
fungipabelanger: timrc: cool, i'll have a look though it may not be until tonight/tomorrow since it's meetings-day16:54
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openstackgerritClint Adams proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: tracking of priority efforts in YAML  https://review.openstack.org/21937216:55
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waynrpelix, zaro are ya'll talking about python-jenkins 0.4.9 breaking JJB?16:56
timrcfungi, Fine by me.16:56
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zarowaynr: yes16:56
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timrcpabelanger, I'd love to help out with reviews and hopefully improvements too.16:56
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waynrI ran into that yesterday and pinned to 0.4.8 in my experimental copy of JJB but was deluged by meetings and asynch requests from product dev so I forgot about it until now16:57
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JeanFredzaro pelix Was AFK. Thanks for looking!16:59
AJaegerpleia2, clarkb, anteaya: Could either of you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228745/ , please? It's another liberty translation enablement - and has already one +2.16:59
openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add dsvm-full-lio to os-brick jobs  https://review.openstack.org/22325817:00
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clarkbAJaeger: looking17:00
AJaegerthanks, clarkb!17:01
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clarkbAJaeger: that is an easy one approved17:01
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AJaegerclarkb: could you abandon https://review.openstack.org/228125 , please? After a cleanup patch went in, this one is not needed anymore - it's a proposal bot translation import.17:02
odgrimpelix waynr: if you're not putting out any fires what do you think of the delete-unmanaged changeset and flow? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221145/17:02
AJaegerclarkb: And proposal bot will not propose a new version since there are no new translations right now...17:03
clarkbAJaeger: are we not going to get an updated patch tonight/today?17:03
clarkbah ok17:03
odgrimI think the change covers everything except renames of identical jobs17:03
pelixzaro: turns out simply having PluginVersion subclass str is sufficient and appears to work on 2.7 and 3.4 (JJB is working on 2.7 with it, tests pass on both, would need a real test on python 3.4 to confirm though)17:03
AJaegerclarkb: we didn't get one this morning - and I assume we won't get one in the next few weeks...17:03
clarkbAJaeger: done17:04
AJaegerthanks for both, clarkb!17:04
clarkbAJaeger: ya and that particular change is just metdata17:04
AJaegerclarkb: yep17:04
waynrodgrim: as I mentioned in-line, I am generally in favor of it but it doesn't quite meet my needs (it doesn't offer a way to distinguish between the different cases I mentioned) and I'm not sure what can be done to make it meet my needs since some of the distinctions I mentioned require human intervention in PR/patchset testing on our config repository17:04
clarkbAJaeger: in general we are in good shape for translations though right? the jobs are working (with new cleanups) and projects are getting the changes pushed to the right branches?17:05
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zaropelix: let me give 3.4 a try17:05
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AJaegerclarkb: yes, everything green as far as I can see.17:05
clarkbAJaeger: great17:05
pelixzaro: looks to be working as well17:05
AJaegerclarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:zanata/translations,n,z contains current open reviews...17:05
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pelixor at least it didn't blow up in the mutate_plugins function :D17:06
waynrpelix: I haven't had a chance to serious dig into the python-jenkins 0.4.9 problem but subclassing str sounds like a simple and appropriate solution17:06
* AJaeger is currently pinging projects to get these in to keep master and liberty close together...17:06
zaropelix: ohh, what else were you looking for then?17:06
pabelangertimrc: yolanda: this one is pretty trivial too. Adds missing grafyaml requirement, and test coverage. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22698617:06
pelixzaro: wasn't sure we'd fixed all the python 3 issues :p17:06
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odgrimwaynr: any ideas? I can start doing a pretty expensive crawl of xml trees and diffing them if 1c is super important17:06
clarkbAJaeger: and looks like -2 on stable until they are ready to merge those items17:07
waynralso I originally wrote the mutate_plugins function, if I remember correctly the goal was primarily to make the returned plugins_info data structure a dictionary indexed by plugin name17:07
odgrimwe offload our history from jenkins and treat jenkins itself as relatively disposable in comparison to the log and artifact stores17:07
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AJaegerclarkb: -2 from ttx until RC2 opens - and those get daily updates, so imports work fine...17:07
pelixzaro: worked for tests, but just don't usually run JJB with python 3 to check if everything works17:07
openstackgerritNisha Agarwal proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Prevent overwriting of user modified blacklist.conf  https://review.openstack.org/22088317:07
pelixzaro: ok, looks like JJB still needs a few fixes for python 3, but unrelated to this issue17:08
waynrodgrim: I don't think that's necessary, I have a set of tools that wrap around JJB currently to help integrate with the way we organize config files--the delete functionality for us really belongs there17:08
clarkbAJaeger: awesome, I wonder if maybe we should make it run less often than daily if the process is to -2 up front17:08
clarkbAJaeger: the nice thing about daily though is we can ctch errors early17:08
zaropelix: push up to gerrit and i can help do some further testing if needed.17:09
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: Use str as base class for PluginVersion  https://review.openstack.org/22905117:09
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pelixzaro: ^^ :)17:09
AJaegerclarkb: daily gives release managers the chance to import it whenever they want ;)17:09
AJaegerotherwise, we might need to switch to "ondemand" ;)17:10
clarkbAJaeger: ya17:10
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AJaegerright now they can do it without pinging us ;)17:10
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pelixzaro: unfortunately our tests for JJB don't exercise python-jenkins in a way that would have caught this issue. Seems like we need a functional test of some kind just to help shake out unexpected issues17:11
odgrimwaynr: since I'm already adding another xml tree (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225562/5/jenkins_jobs/modules/general.py) what if we tag'd each job with a unique id and start differentiating jobs by that instead of by name? That should potentially get us a way to rename/update job names instead of flush the whole job and rebuild17:13
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Translations Liberty: Project update  https://review.openstack.org/22874517:15
waynrodgrim: I considered using some kind of UUID, but how would JJB know when a job name it hasn't seen before is supposed to be associated with a particular UUID belonging to a job it has seen?17:15
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waynrin other words, when JJB generates a new job that it hasn't seen I would expect that to be the point at which it assigns a UUID17:16
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odgrimwaynr: maybe generate the xml tree, take out the name attribute and them checksum the rest of the tree?17:16
odgrimdo you ever have a job that is exactly identical but under 2 different names17:17
odgrim?17:17
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waynrmaybe, but there is no guarantee outside of strong develop/review/merge discipline that there would not be xml tree changes17:18
clarkbodgrim: is there a benefit to renaming jobs in jenkins over delete add?17:18
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clarkbI am not sure that ends up being any quicker due to api17:18
odgrimclarkb: waynr has a use case of trying to preserve history :P17:18
clarkbthe history is in your git repo17:18
clarkbnot in jenkins17:18
waynrclarkb: preserving history in a pure Jenkins infrastructure where there is no external log17:18
waynrpreserving job history, that is17:18
odgrimhe means the actual build log, not the job change log17:19
zaropelix: looks like jjb doesn't seem to work with py34 at all.17:19
odgrimyeah17:19
clarkboh we turn that off because it doesn't work17:19
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clarkb(I highly recommend turning it off)17:19
odgrim^ I do too XD17:19
alivignipelix# zxiiro could you look at this review please? - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222690/17:19
odgrimbut some definitely use it17:19
waynryeah our team is just slammed trying to keep up with product dev--we hope to move to storing logs and build artifacts outside of Jenkins in the future, we just haven't had time to design that in a way that would not lead to some kind of tech debt17:20
odgrimat my old job where we didn't have all this external log/artifact store a job history purge would have been devastating17:20
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clarkbthe issue is it makes jenkins stop running17:21
zaropelix: with test command http://paste.openstack.org/show/474712/17:21
clarkbdoing it that way literally doses the server with itself17:21
clarkbwhich isn't practical in any situation17:21
odgrimcould be worse17:21
waynrclarkb: what makes jenkins stop running?17:21
waynrpreseving build logs?17:22
zaropelix: with update command http://paste.openstack.org/show/474713/17:22
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waynrwe only preserve a limited number of logs but they are still important for the time that we do have them17:22
clarkbwaynr: there are two problems, one is just filesystem limits iirc. Jenkins easily goes over limits for things like files in a dir17:22
zaropelix: that is with PluginVersion(str) and those worked with py27 just fine.17:22
clarkbwaynr: the other is jenkins loads every single xml file on start and when you open a job and when you do things like that17:23
clarkbwaynr: this effectively kills the server any time it happens once you have enough data stored in it17:23
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Add reno for release notes  https://review.openstack.org/22656017:23
waynrclarkb: yeah we use the workspace cleanup plugin, we also don't keep history for job config changes17:23
clarkbits not the config changes or the workspaces17:23
clarkbits the logs17:23
clarkbthey are stored in an encoded format and have to be read and rendered in order to give you stats and green/red balls17:24
clarkband jenkins does that on demand without caching iirc17:24
waynri found that the JJB run time was steadily increasing as the number of config changes increased (hence the limit)17:24
waynrah, I see what you're saying17:24
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odgrim^ I got around that by federating jenkins (before we offloaded the logs/artifacts)17:24
waynryeah we keep a limited number of builds and only for a limited time17:24
odgrimit was bad to have a single huge jenkins anyway… spof-mania17:25
waynrso we don't run into disk space issues17:25
waynrodgrim: federating how?17:25
odgrimnot as fancy as you think, giving major product teams their own jenkins17:25
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zxiiroalivigni: looking17:26
waynralso in response to your comments about using a UUID, the only way I can think of doing that is to manually annotate all the JJB project, job-group, job-template with their own UUID...if left to JJB to annotate these things behind the scene I'm not sure how it would detect job-templates, job-groups, or projects that have simply been renamed17:26
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mordredjeblair: yes. I do not believe we specifically handle it - but I agree, it's a thing we should handle there17:27
fungii going to step away for a quick lunch and then finish prepping for our meeting. back real soon17:27
mordredjeblair: I'll just remove that commented out test in the next rev17:27
alivignizxiiro# thanks17:27
waynrgiving major product teams their own jenkins is something I have considered but I'm not sure my team would be down for that...."more jenkii" is generally not considered a good answer to our current scaling problems17:28
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* Zara sees discussion on ci-watch and thinks they should pick storyboard, but is, of course, biased :)17:29
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odgrimwaynr: eh, it's a team decision. It worked for our use case because different teams wanted different plugins/views etc and having them all smashed into one eventually led to conflicts of when/where to update what.17:30
clarkbwe have 8 and use zuul + gearman to avoid sharding on teams17:30
clarkbits a little more complicated but has scaled well beyond what jenkins alone can do17:31
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openstackgerritSam Betts proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add cisco-ironic-contrib project  https://review.openstack.org/22906017:31
waynrclarkb: yeah i've set up a proof of concept of zuul + gearman, helped get github triggers partially implemented in zuul, haven't had a chance to demo it to my team yet17:32
mordredwaynr: I keep meaning to go circle back and poke at your patches17:33
odgrimwaynr: at the end of the day, if we can get a uuid that successfully fulfills your use case of moving jobs, that would do it?17:33
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odgrimwaynr: ie, what do you think needs to happen for these 2 patches to get rolled in?17:34
zxiiroalivigni: looks like I already gave that a +1. The highest vote I can do at the moment.17:34
zarozxiiro: you should be able to do better now17:34
waynrodgrim: yeah, I'm definitely interested in that. again, i'm not opposed to the current delete_unmanaged feature as it stands17:34
zxiirozaro: Strange. When I checked earlier  I did have +2. but looks like I'm back to only +1.17:35
odgrimwaynr: what about the matching "is_unmanaged" feature that went along with it? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225562/17:35
odgrimit was technically an existing bug I found so I opened a different patch17:36
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zarozxiiro: try going back to 0 then re-review17:36
odgrimor rather, khai found it because of my changes :P17:36
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alivignizxiiro# thanks how many +1s do you need?17:36
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zxiirozaro: ok let me try...17:36
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notmynameanteaya: oh yeah. patch 205723. I should look at that again. thanks for bringing it up17:37
patchbotnotmyname: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205723/ - update swift tests17:37
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zxiirozaro: yep that was it. I guess it doesn't update my permissions for changes I already voted for until I reset it?17:37
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zaroi guess so, just found that out myself.17:37
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zxiiroalivigni: you need 2x +2s before your patch can be merged. +1s don't have any weight on enabling the merge.17:38
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zarozxiiro: you forgot the workflow+117:38
zxiirozaro: so do I just click +1 workflow when I'm the 2nd +2? or is there a process for the workflow vote?17:38
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Setup multinode interfaces on singlenode n-net  https://review.openstack.org/22754217:38
openstackgerritJakub Ruzicka proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add new project pymod2pkg to Packaging-RPM team  https://review.openstack.org/22789117:39
openstackgerritJakub Ruzicka proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add new project renderspec to Packaging-RPM team  https://review.openstack.org/22789217:39
alivignizxiiro# ok looks like Thanh just gave us one +217:39
zxiiroalivigni: that's me ;)17:39
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waynrodgrim: looks interesting, i'll try to review more in-depth but am kinda slammed at the moment with email and planned work--I will add it to my list of things to review before bed tonight17:39
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zaroyou need 2x +2 and workflow+1 then merge happens automatically, that is unless there's a conflict17:40
odgrimwaynr: thanks! I'll see if I can scrounge up more reviews. Anyone else I should ask17:40
odgrim?17:40
waynrzxiiro, pelix, zaro, are all core reviewers for JJB17:40
alivignizxiiro# looks like we are all set thanks!17:40
waynrthere's also Antoine but I'm not sure what his IRC nick is17:41
zaroodgrim: /me is khai17:41
odgrimhi O_o17:41
waynrodgrim: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/194,members17:41
zarowaynr: that would be hashar17:42
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odgrimthanks, still building a mapping of reviewers to irc handles17:42
odgrimbut it looks like half of you outed yourselves in just the last 4 minutes17:42
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zxiiroodgrim: I only got core reviewer powers a few hours ago17:43
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zaroohh yeah, ask zxiiro first.17:43
odgrimflood the new guy? ok17:44
pelixodgrim: so for the is_unmanaged feature, I think supporting the magic string as well as your new XML attribute and emit a warning if the MAGIC string is found but the XML attribute is missing will alleviate most concerns. As long as most people don't run a 'delete old' before running an update we'd be fine, but it'd be better to support both initially17:44
odgrimzxiiro: what do you think of this change to fix is_managed? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225562/17:44
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zxiiroodgrim: I need to step out for lunch but I can take a look if you link me to review17:45
zxiiroodgrim: ah ok saved17:45
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jeblairmordred: cool, thanks for answering my questions.  i think i'm all set on 226751, though i left a minor housekeeping note for you.17:45
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odgrimpelix: I think I got it in patch 5, I made the current is_managed a is_legacy_managed and used both in the "delete_old_managed" function to figure out what is what17:45
patchbotodgrim: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/5/ - Fix problem with jenkins known_hosts url.17:45
zaroodgrim: might want to take it easy on him this week.  he claims to be on vacation.17:45
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pelixodgrim: ah, didn't spot that, and I suspect zaro didn't either17:46
pelix:p17:46
zaropelix: i tried jjb with py24 and python-jenkins 0.4.8 and seems like lots of things not working.  i didn't even realize that.  really need to figure out how to add those extra func test.17:46
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pelixpy24 or py34?17:47
zarooops py2417:47
zarooops py3417:47
pelixhehe, i'd expect a lot of breakage for py24 :p17:47
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pelixzaro: I think the combination of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183939/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172238/ (after rebasing) will fix py3417:48
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pelixodgrim: looks like that second change so only needs an excess whitespace fix up and to also update the default job description17:49
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zaropelix: ok lets merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229051 ? then i'll look into those changes to fix jjb for py34.17:49
odgrimpelix: deal, I'll have it in for you tonight when i get back home17:50
pelixsounds good17:50
nibalizerfungi: can you look at 191247, if you like my response I'll rebase it17:50
anteayanotmyname: thanks I don't think patchbot will go over well in here17:51
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add control over more settings of github pull request builder plugin  https://review.openstack.org/22269017:51
anteayanotmyname: we tend to refer to patchs by the number and don't tend to want the link17:51
anteayaAJaeger: already merged 22874517:52
anteayaSpamapS: very good thank you17:52
anteayazaro: back and ready when you are17:52
AJaegerthanks anteaya for looking! Yes, clarkb was faster17:52
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Wrap file objects with codecs to handle unicode  https://review.openstack.org/18393917:52
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Fix Builder.update_job() on Python 3  https://review.openstack.org/17223817:52
anteayaAJaeger: he's like that :)17:53
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pelixzaro: so back to the change around delete unmanaged, first question is, do you agree it would help if JJB could distinguish between obsolete jobs (previously managed by JJB) and manually created/managed jobs (via Jenkins UI)?17:54
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zaroyes17:56
openstackgerritJerry Zhao proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add networking-fortinet project to neutron  https://review.openstack.org/21905517:56
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Enable Python 3X jobs for python-tripleoclient  https://review.openstack.org/22885517:57
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Distinguish kept jobs and unmanaged jobs when skipping removal  https://review.openstack.org/22577817:57
notmynameanteaya: ok. I can make patchbot leave. personally I find patch numbers alone very hard to work with17:57
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mordredanteaya: I actually value links not numbers17:57
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mordredwhich is not to say that we should keep it or not - just registering that I have a different personal preference17:58
anteayamordred: oh I had felt that jeblair fungi and clarkb prefer the numbers17:58
mordredthey may17:58
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add nova v20 jobs as experimental in Tempest gate  https://review.openstack.org/22160817:58
anteayamordred: sure and thought you also did17:58
mordredbut I prefer links17:58
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notmynamemordred: can we start a ML thread about links vs numbers?17:58
mordrednotmyname: only ifwe can argue about periods in it17:58
anteayanotmyname: perhaps you could ask fungi clarkb and jeblair and see what they like17:58
anteayait is just we have quite a bit of traffic in here already17:59
anteayaand new additions should be felt as being additions is all17:59
mordredI feel likeI missed an earlier part of this conversation17:59
notmynameanteaya: I have zero stake in in. I only made patchbot join because I was about to refer to a patch ;-)17:59
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anteayamordred: thank you for sharing your thoughts, now I know17:59
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openstackgerritDanilo Ramalho proposed openstack-infra/puppet-jenkins: Add acceptance tests for puppet-jenkins.  https://review.openstack.org/22022817:59
anteayanotmyname: yeah I know I saw the conversation 2 weeks ago in -qa when mtreinish asked who owned it17:59
anteayamordred: that was the earlier part of the conversation, I knew why john created it18:00
notmynameanteaya: he just didn't want the response to "logs not available for 1234,2,5678"18:00
anteayasince he said so in -qa18:00
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anteayanotmyname: makes sense18:00
notmynameno to me ;-)18:00
jeblairi would prefer not to have patchbot in here18:00
notmynamejeblair: it's not (anymore)18:00
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jeblairi personally can deal with either links or number18:01
jeblairs18:01
jeblair(gertty takes both as input :)18:01
jeblair(and produces both as output)18:01
zaropelix: was there a 2nd question?18:01
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pelixyes :), sorry got distracted18:02
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pelixquestion two, any thoughts on how we name the options so they are clear without breaking existing behaviour as to he intent of the different '--delete-*' options18:03
openstackgerritMerged stackforge/python-jenkins: Use str as base class for PluginVersion  https://review.openstack.org/22905118:03
pelixquestion three, should we be adding these options to the 'delete' commands as well as the 'update' command?18:03
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zaroi can't think of better names than delete-old and delete-unmanaged atm18:05
zaroi think it would make sense to add them to the 'delete' as a way to deprecate them from 'update' command.18:06
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pelixso have the delete operation always separate from the update operation?18:07
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zarothat makes way more sense to me. allows users to script them independently and would make code easier to manage i think.18:07
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clarkball jenkins masters look good this morning18:09
zaroclarkb: you mean all green balls?18:10
anteayathe zuul status bingo machine18:10
clarkbzaro: no thread leaks18:10
clarkbzaro: I have been checking every morning to run that utility script through its paces18:10
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mordredShrews: interesting: http://logs.openstack.org/51/226751/14/check/gate-dsvm-nodepool/d920f0b/logs/screen-nodepool.txt.gz#_2015-09-29_16_45_04_12618:13
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zaroJeanFred, pelix: python-jenkins 0.4.9.1 release should be available soon.18:16
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clarkbzaro: you can't use that version18:16
pelixyay!18:16
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Use shade for all OpenStack interactions  https://review.openstack.org/22675118:16
clarkbzaro: it needs to be 0.4.1018:16
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mordredShrews: nevermind. it was another instance of "we didn't return the openstack_vars"18:17
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pelixclarkb: limit on 3 digits for version?18:17
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zaroclarkb: really? is that a pypi thing?18:17
clarkbpelix: yes, because semver18:17
clarkbzaro: no its a pbr thing18:17
clarkband I think you all use pbr now18:17
zarook. let me try again.18:17
clarkbzaro: well double check that 0.4.9.1 didn't work first18:17
clarkbbut pretty sure it will not run jobs properly and won't publish because pbr18:18
pelix@zaro maybe we should have released the previous one as 0.5.0 so?18:18
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zaropelix: why?18:18
pelixso that we have the easy way to distinguish when releasing subsequent bugfixes18:19
pelixin the cases were something broke18:19
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zarohow is that different from 0.4.x?18:19
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SotKasselin: Hey, so mostly I was wondering what features of Launchpad that are missing from StoryBoard affected the choice between the two the most (other than the planned end of StoryBoard, since AIUI the goal of that is to move everything to Maniphest/Phabricator)?18:20
pelixno indication that we added new functionality18:20
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zarodo you mean release with major number? like 1.x.x?18:20
* SotK would like to know where would be most useful to be focussing development18:20
zarothen we can do 1.0.1 ?18:20
pelix0.4.8 -> 0.4.9 suggests bugfix in semver, however we included new functionality, one of which caused an issue.18:21
zaroand rev middle digit for feature?18:21
pelixyeah, it doesn't matter now, can think about it for future releases18:21
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clarkbfirst digit is for incompatible release, middle is for new features, last is for fixes18:21
pelixgo with 0.4.10 ;)18:21
asselinSotK, krotscheck I believe was the last core of storybaord. I also remember reading a spec about migrating to a new solution I need to find the link18:22
funginibalizer: i already +2'd the earlier patchset. jeblair was the one who asked about combining with puppet-syntax18:22
krotscheckasselin: NikitaKonovalov and yolanda were also cores.18:23
clarkbmordred: Shrews that test uses vanilla neutron (its ovs ml2 plugin) with floating IPs18:23
mordredclarkb: yeah - that wasn't the problem - it was a programming error18:23
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for cinder v2 heat bug 1500780  https://review.openstack.org/22909318:23
mordredasselin, SotK: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/maniphest.html18:23
openstackbug 1500780 in tempest "orchestration.stacks.test_volumes test is failing" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1500780 - Assigned to Jordan Pittier (jordan-pittier)18:23
clarkbmordred: Shrews should behave very similarly to hpcloud (I decided to do floating IPs and neutron because we seem to have more problems with that setup than the default public ip networking options)18:23
clarkbmordred: oh ok18:23
clarkbmordred: that seems like shade is broken api then18:23
mordredclarkb: there is a design flaw we've found18:24
clarkbmordred: I mean if shades author can't remmeber when and where you need to convert types maye it should just do it18:24
mordredclarkb: yes. this is agreed for sure18:24
mordredclarkb: the problem is that create/get server returns just the server dict - get_openstack_vars also adds the inferred/discovered information18:24
mordredclarkb: the clear solution is for create/get server commands to always add the inferred/discovred information18:25
pc_mianw: ping18:25
mordredwe just haven't done that yet - so for right now it's a 2-call sequence (which is stupid)18:25
openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed openstack-infra/project-config: osops-tools-monitoring: add bashate job  https://review.openstack.org/22909418:25
clarkbmordred: and inferred/discovered data is things like "this is your public ip" ?18:25
mordredyes18:25
clarkbgotcha18:25
fungiclarkb: if memory serves, the issue with 4-component versions and pbr is that they get normalized to something different than the tag, so the pypi upload fails to find the right tarball18:25
clarkbfungi: ya18:25
mordredclarkb: it would be too much to ask for opensack to actually just, you know, tell you that informatoin18:25
SotKasselin: Indeed, Zara and I are cores for StoryBoard now18:26
* Zara waves18:26
nibalizerfungi: ah my bad18:27
* mordred waves to Zara and SotK18:27
asselinSotK, Zara hi18:27
clarkbmordred: I will have comments for latest patchset in a few18:27
SotKWe hope to make it more useful whilst its still being used :)18:27
clarkbmordred: found at least one test bug18:27
* mordred hands both of them the remainder of what was a tasty sandwhich18:27
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mordredclarkb: awesome18:27
mordredclarkb: I have also changed the unittest so that it would have caught the ip bug18:27
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support lazy resolving of include yaml tags  https://review.openstack.org/6358018:27
clarkbmordred: cool18:27
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zaroclarkb, pelix yeah, it failed.  will do 0.4.1018:29
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clarkbmordred: why does the fake cloud preseed the image list if it is None?18:30
clarkbmordred: don't we want our tests to be populating that list?18:30
clarkbmordred: oh I guess that is a stand in for a cloud's base image?18:31
mordredclarkb: snapshot builders have to boot from existing images18:31
mordredyeah18:31
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mordredhrm18:32
mordredShrews, clarkb: SO - there is a problem in always doing the network inferrence if we do not turn on shade's caching18:32
mordredwhich is that it takes several neutron calls to figure out what netwowork has the public addresses18:32
mordredwith caching turned on - that should not be a problem18:33
mordredsince the networks should pretty much never change18:33
mordredand it'll be a cost spent once18:33
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clarkbmordred: but all the necessary data is in the nova host data18:33
clarkbmordred: unless I am mistaken18:33
mordredclarkb: that is completely untrue18:33
mordredclarkb: for the general case, it is not possible to know which network is public without querying neutron for the data18:34
clarkbwhat do you need to know? ipv6 is always public. For ipv4 you either have one or two IPs18:34
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added gitlab plugin  https://review.openstack.org/21149118:34
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added gitlab plugin  https://review.openstack.org/21149118:34
clarkbif one then private == public18:34
mordredclarkb: I promise, it is more complex than that - it took us about a month to get it solid18:34
clarkbelse if IP in private range then private else public18:34
clarkbmordred: its built into IP?18:34
* fungi so wishes the "private" vs "public" distinction cold be replaced with something more accurate, but rfc-1918 said "private" and so it's all been downhill from there18:34
anteayawhy did openstackgerrit repeat itself?18:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: List conditions for trigger-parameterized-builds  https://review.openstack.org/22119718:35
lifelessfungi: lets all use TEST_118:35
mordredclarkb: no - becuase not everyon's "public" address is public (we have a concrete user in this setup, btw)18:35
mordredwhat you have to know is which neutron network is externally routable from the perspective of the cloud18:35
mordredthat externally routable address could be a 1918 address - like it would be in a dvsm run18:35
mordredwhich is why querying the neutorn metadata about the network is necessary18:35
mordredwhich, as I mentioned, is not a problem if you can then cache what you have learned about the qualities of the networks that the server is connected to18:36
fungiin deference to the rfc editors at the ietf, i think the intent was "if you use these address blocks you can have a 'private' internet even though others might use the same blocks for theirs" (and had nothing to do with securing your network from the public at large)18:36
clarkbmordred: hrm18:36
clarkbya I see what you are saying18:36
Zaraasselin: hi :) yeah, it's useful to know what features launchpad currently offers that we don't yet have in storyboard. since at the moment, SotK and I are just focussing on the features that we're interested in, which is fun but might not be relevant to everyone who could potentially want to use it.18:36
mordredclarkb: I mean, easy solution is to just enable shade caching18:36
clarkb(this seems like a horribly broken network api)18:36
mordredI was just hoping we could test turning that on as a discreet step18:36
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: support for the phabricator plugin  https://review.openstack.org/21575018:37
clarkbnova should just straight up tell you18:37
mordredclarkb: yes, I agree18:37
clarkb"This IP is publicly routable from the perspective of the cloud"18:37
mordredyup18:37
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mordredthat would be awesome18:37
openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/system-config: (WIP) Create playbook to puppet InfraCloud nodes  https://review.openstack.org/20963218:37
clarkbmordred: sure I am just saying we really should fix nova/neutron18:37
mordredbut there are apparently "reasons" why that is not possible18:37
fungis/publicly/globally/18:37
anteayano I think it is possible18:37
clarkbmordred: tahts bs18:37
clarkbadd a new return field18:37
anteayaI think folks are thinking it is too much work is all18:38
clarkbpublic_ip: x.y.z.x18:38
clarkbits backward compat18:38
mordredah - what anteaya said is probably a large part18:38
clarkbif you don't use it you are fine18:38
clarkbif you do use it ou win18:38
clarkbisn't this the whole point of microversions?18:38
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add new parameters to Build Blocker example / test.  https://review.openstack.org/22324018:38
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mordredsure. but I'm not going to wait on that to land in hp's public cloud ...18:38
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clarkbanyways comments soon18:38
mordredso for now we'll have to deal with caching - or come up with a different strategy - like perhaps passing in a public network uuid to the constructor that would cause the discovery work to short-circuit18:39
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mordredI'm about ot board flight - look forwad to comments, and I'll try to cook up some patches around dealing wiht the API cost soon too18:39
clarkbanteaya: too much work? this literally makes clouds uselss18:40
anteayaexactly18:40
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fungimaking clouds useful _could_ be construed as "too much work"18:40
clarkbI don't want to sound like I am overly grumpy but seriously if this thing doesn't work then what are we doing18:40
anteayawhich is why I don't hold with that opinion18:40
anteayabut I hear it18:40
anteayaclarkb: exactly18:40
anteayaclarkb: I am right beside you on that one18:40
clarkbmordred: and you are sure that dib does the qemu thing now? I remember that was contentious in dib18:41
mordredclarkb: read shade.meta.get_server_external_ipv4 if you want a reminder on the whole story18:41
mordredclarkb: yes. I am sure18:41
fungii tend to agree that the scope of work for any software carries an inherent goal #0 of "also this thing should actually work"18:41
mordredclarkb: greghaynes can confirm, but I believe it landed many months ago18:41
anteayaclarkb: and I don't consider you stating the obvious to be indicative of you being anywhere on the grumpy scale18:41
anteayaclarkb: but firmly on the reality scale18:41
greghayneshrm?18:41
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mordredbut the thing is - even if we fix it in nova, we still have to deal with the existing clouds that tdo not have the fix18:41
mordredgreghaynes: the qemu compat patch18:41
greghaynesthe backwards compat qcow2s18:41
anteayafungi: ha ha ha18:42
mordredyup18:42
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greghayneswe dont by default I think, much arguing18:42
mordredwait - what?18:42
anteayafungi: perhaps we should be more explict18:42
mordredI thought that landed months aog18:42
* mordred cries18:42
greghaynesthat patchhas been up a long time. maybe it did since I stopped looking18:42
mordredok. I'll revert that part of the patch18:42
clarkbmordred: don't push a new patch yet18:42
mordredclarkb: I won't18:42
clarkbmordred: I am almost done I promise18:42
mordredI'm going to wait for your stuff18:42
greghaynespretty sure it hasnt though18:42
mordredand now - I shall board18:43
anteayamordred: safe fllight18:43
Clintall aboard18:43
mordredgreghaynes: please tell someone that they are being evil for me18:43
fungistand to and prepare to be boarded?18:43
anteayawasn't that the other day?18:43
greghaynesyea :(18:43
anteayaand didn't we get a fairly decent mild response on that?18:43
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anteayathe history on the wikipage shows 50 edits in the last week18:45
anteayanice emailing jeblair18:45
zaroanteaya: 15 mins before meeting18:45
anteayazaro: yes18:45
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openstackgerritKaitlin Farr proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create experimental job for Castellan  https://review.openstack.org/22909718:46
anteayazaro: have we time to discuss or no?18:46
zaroanteaya: so i'm in favor of you idea to make the problem more known.18:46
anteayazaro: great, thank you18:46
anteayazaro: any thoughts on the process for doing so?18:46
fungizaro: anteaya: should we discuss the gerrit upgrade in today's meeting?18:46
anteayazaro: would you like to?18:46
zaroanteaya: sure, if time permits18:46
fungias the chair, i can always squeeze it into the agenda18:46
anteayaI would18:46
anteayafungi: thank you18:47
openstackgerritVictor Stinner proposed openstack/requirements: Update pyngus to 2.0, now supports Python 3  https://review.openstack.org/22558018:47
zarocool18:47
anteayazaro: let's get an etherpad going with links and context18:47
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fungiand the topic is important to me and presumably many others on the team18:47
* fungi gets back to meeting prep18:47
anteayazaro: join me here? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/I0eV4IgkZS18:47
mordredfungi: I will be on a plane. my meeting attendance may be spotty18:48
openstackgerritKaitlin Farr proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create experimental job for Castellan  https://review.openstack.org/22909718:48
fungimordred: thanks. we do have logs if you need ;)18:49
openstackgerritSkyler Berg proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add ciwatch - CI monitoring tool  https://review.openstack.org/21684018:50
clarkbmordred: posted18:50
openstackgerritAri proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Implements: additions for Openshift3 plugin entry points in build steps and scm  https://review.openstack.org/22910018:50
openstackgerritSkyler Berg proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add ciwatch - CI monitoring tool  https://review.openstack.org/21684018:51
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mordredclarkb: thanks!18:51
clarkbmordred: the cover comment may also be interesting18:51
mordrednod18:51
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openstackgerritAri proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Implements: additions for OS3 plugin entry points in build  https://review.openstack.org/22910018:53
morgansdague: have a question for you re: devstack gate. is it possible to export a specific environment value for config on stable/<specific stable> branches?18:53
clarkbmorgan: you have to check the branch under test and write it out18:53
morgansdague: it doesn't seem there is a clear way.. or is that like  if [ "$BRANCH_OVERRIDE" != "default" ] ; then18:53
clarkbmorgan: a bit more info on what you are trying to do might be helpful18:53
morganclarkb: remove eventlet testing for keystone from mitaka (neutron gate job)18:54
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morganbut leave it for stable.*18:54
morganwell stable/liberty, stable/kilo18:54
clarkbmorgan: you should do that in devstack not d-g18:54
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clarkbdevstack is branched so you just stop configuring it the other way on master/mitaka18:54
morganclarkb: uhm. it is a per-gate job config now18:54
openstackgerritAri proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Implements: additions for OS3 plugin entry points in builders and scm  https://review.openstack.org/22910018:54
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morganoh18:55
anteayazaro: do we have a link to Sasa's failed attempt to fix the issue?18:55
morganjust ignore the option?18:55
morganmake the toggle go away in devstack18:55
morgani see.18:55
clarkbmorgan: ya and stp running the eventlet jobs on master18:55
morganthen the neutron job can lose the config value one the line18:55
morganeh, we can't stop running the job it's a neutron-full job18:55
clarkboh its overloaded like that on postgres or something?18:55
morganyeah18:55
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clarkbgotcha ya I would ignore the option then18:55
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clarkband let it die on the vine18:55
morganclarkb: ++ perfect18:55
morgantyvm!!18:55
zaroanteaya: partially linked in the bug and here: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/repo-discuss/CYYoHfDxCfA/MVZPKTM8RBoJ18:55
clarkbalso I wonder if that is why neutron-full is slower?18:56
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clarkbwill be interesting to see if that job speeds up a bit with wsgi18:56
morganclarkb: ++18:56
jd__any pointer or how I can have something like governance.openstack.org processed and hosted on infra?18:57
anteayazaro: sorry I am missing the link or reference18:57
sdaguemorgan: yeh, basically just remove the support from devstack for keystone-all I think18:57
sdagueonce we cut the branch18:57
anteayajd__: do you mean published documents?18:57
jd__anteaya: yes18:57
anteayait is via the docs job18:57
morgansdague: ++++18:58
anteayawhat do you want published and what url do you want it at?18:58
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zaroanteaya: https://gerrit-review.googlesource.com/#/c/68149/18:58
sdaguemorgan: the branch cut is going to be tomorrow morning18:58
asselinZara,  hi, stepped away to get lunch. I'm not that familiar with what's missing in launchpad18:58
mordredShrews: confirmed. shade patch fixes HP18:58
Shrewsmordred: awesome18:58
jd__anteaya: a job doc on gnocchi.xyz18:58
anteayazaro: thank you18:58
anteayajd__: oh I don't think we publish to anything except openstack.org domains18:59
asselinZara, but I do konw that pagination support would be helpful. Last I checked you can't see stories after the first 10018:59
mtreinishsdague, morgan: ooh, we're finally dropping the eventlet usage in keystone18:59
morganmtreinish: that is the plan18:59
anteayajd__: so you want to figure out how to get teh job to do that, hmmmm, I will have to continue after infra meeting, unless someone else jumps in18:59
morganmtreinish: went through full deprecation cycles. but someone aparantly is begging we don't do it now18:59
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morganmtreinish: so my first step is kill it in the gate19:00
mtreinishmorgan: someone always will19:00
jd__anteaya: you think or you're sure? :)19:00
Zaraasselin: I believe SotK fixed that very recently! :)19:00
fungimeeting time!19:00
anteayajd__: I think19:00
anteayajd__: if someone else is sure, listen to them19:01
asselinZara, cool I'll check it out! going to meeting now19:01
jd__anteaya: ok :)19:01
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sdaguemorgan: who is begging for that, and why?19:01
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Zaraasselin: no problem :)19:01
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morgansdague: i'll find out shortly19:01
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: Do not execute selinux commands if policy disabled  https://review.openstack.org/21466719:01
sdaguethe why is probably good to understand regardless19:02
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sdaguebecause if the why is dev cycle time, the pbr wsgi_scripts bit makes that much better19:03
morgansdague: yes.19:03
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sdaguewe should probably provide a devstack flag to run the wsgi processes directly under screen, for fast local dev19:03
sdagueit's wsgiref, which means it's not going to stand up to anything beyond single request at a time, but for iterating, that should be fine19:04
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morgansdague: that is my plan for uwsgi19:04
morgansdague: actually19:04
tristanCanteaya: I've doubt now, TC candidate does not need to have contribution (commit), foundation membership is enough to be a TC candidate right ?19:04
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sdagueok, that works as well19:04
morgansdague: but it's a bit of dev work out to finalize19:04
morgansdague also it should stop the apache-didn't-cleanly-stop issue for keystone19:04
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sdagueyeh, anyway, I trust your judgement there19:04
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anteayatristanC: correct I will find the link to the email about that from last year19:05
anteayatristanC: stand by19:05
sdaguemorgan: I thought that was solvable with a lock?19:05
morgansdague: :) wsgiref is fine too if i can't get uwsgi to work (fall back plan)19:05
anteayatristanC: best if you read for yourself in the by-laws I'll find you the link19:05
morgansdague: uh. not really.19:05
sdaguemorgan: that's why I wrote the pbr wsgi_scripts that way19:05
morgansdague: that is apache hanging onto connections and not exiting fast enough19:05
sdagueso you could just run them on the command line19:05
morgansdague: oh sure, that part19:05
morgansdague: yes that is fine and is well thought out19:06
tristanCanteaya: the by-laws does not mention any actual commit to be required, however last elections we did checked for such commit so I guess this was not required afterall19:06
sdagueso you could just run_process keystone-wsgi in devstack19:06
morganthe apache issue is apache getting bound up with connections and process management19:06
sdaguefor the dev case19:06
sdaguemorgan: yeh, right, that's a whole other can of worms19:06
morgansdague: sure. my hope was to not recommend that for anyone :P because someone will try and do it in production19:06
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anteayatristanC: it is in this email19:06
anteayahttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-October/048102.html19:06
morgansdague: uwsgi would be "production"-able in either case19:07
sdagueI think it screams a lot19:07
morgansdague: but yes my fallback is what you just described19:07
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tristanCanteaya: awesome, thanks!19:07
anteayatristanC: sorry it is the tc charter19:07
morgansdague: ^_^ - and when has that stopped people from saying "oh it worked here *ignore warning*" :P19:07
sdague    print("DANGER! For testing only, do not use in production")19:07
anteayatristanC: correct the by-laws don't state anything19:07
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morgansdague: but you're spot on in either case :)19:08
sdague:)19:08
mtreinishsdague: heh, how many places do we say that about devstack in general19:08
sdaguesure, but it's yet another one19:08
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sdagueseriously, if you buy a hot coffee and dump in your lap, I'm not going to feel all that bad19:08
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openstackgerritSean M. Collins proposed openstack-infra/project-config: IPv6 experimental job - set SERVICE_HOST to ::1  https://review.openstack.org/22910819:09
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clarkbsc68cal: ^ that will break on multinode, fine with it since I think other things will reka on multinode with ipv6 only I think, but maybe we can more generally solve that problem?19:10
clarkbsc68cal: curious to know what you think19:10
openstackgerritAri proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Implements: additions for OS3 plugin entry points in builders and scm  https://review.openstack.org/22910019:10
sc68calclarkb: I only change it in the job definition for the ipv6 only job19:11
sc68calclarkb: I didn't touch devstack-gate19:11
clarkbsc68cal: I know but if we can solve it properly once then you don't need to have special config19:11
clarkbsc68cal: my point is don't bake too much spceial sauce into the job itself19:11
sc68calclarkb: ack. I have a patch against d-g that works on fixing, but I didn't know if it was right approach19:11
openstackgerritSean M. Collins proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: [WIP] Stop hard coding SERVICE_HOST  https://review.openstack.org/22911119:13
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clarkbsc68cal: ya thats better (doesn't address multinode but at least its not super jobs specific)19:14
clarkbI think devstack says "what is my IP" to figure out what IP addr to use if its not set which should justwork19:14
clarkbassuming it understsands ipv6 onlyu19:14
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morgansdague, clarkb, mtreinish: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229112/19:15
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morganholding until branching and then we'll see what happens19:15
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morganonce that lands keystone team will look at ripping out the eventlet support itself.19:15
sdagueworks for me19:16
sc68calclarkb: yeah, thee is some logic here - http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-dev/devstack/tree/stackrc#n70719:16
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sdaguesc68cal: the reason it's hardcoded in devstack-gate is I think the guessing ended up weird some times19:20
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sdaguesc68cal: also look at primary_node19:22
sdaguebecause that's what's going to be set in the multinode case19:22
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sdagueand, honestly, it seems like we should set it to primary node for the master as well19:22
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clarkbsdague: ya except the nodepool info is ipv4 only currently (some hosts don't get ipv6)19:23
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alivignizaro# ping if I updated a patch for my JJB will the tests automatically get rerun?  Is there a queue to watch?19:23
clarkbso in the ipv6 only case we would need some work there to say "use ::1" or "use this overlay address" or "use this routable ipv6 addr from provider"19:23
openstackgerritKaitlin Farr proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create experimental job for Castellan  https://review.openstack.org/22909719:24
Clintalivigni: http://status.openstack.org/zuul/19:24
clarkbanyways happy to do what is easiest for now and ipv619:24
clarkbbut we should keep this in mind for the futuer19:24
alivigniClint# thanks19:24
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zaroalivigni: yes, and the queue is here: http://status.openstack.org/zuul/19:25
alivignizaro# thanks looks like it passed I am on my way :)19:26
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openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Update meeting info for Cinder  https://review.openstack.org/22912119:36
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mordredShrews: so - looking at public ip finding again19:46
mordredShrews: I think there are a couple of short-circuit we can try19:46
mordredShrews: one is - we currently get the list of networks, and then we get a list of ports and work backwards to patch port to server to network19:46
mordredShrews: which is totaly correct and will always work19:46
mordredShrews: BUT - I tink we could first look to see if the server has a network dict, and if so, if any of the networks match the name of the public network found by looking for networks with the externally routable flag19:46
mordredShrews: in fact, we could make a "find external network" method which we could aggressively cache the results of (even outside of dogpile)19:46
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mordredShrews: and then we should be able to skip the port list loop19:46
mordredShrews: UNLESS it doesn't work19:46
mordredin which case we go back to the port list loop19:46
mordredsince we know that works all th etime19:47
Shrewsholy crap. ping flood19:47
mordredShrews: sorry man19:47
mordredShrews: just realized we're about to api-flood the clouds if we turn on get_openstack_vars on every create_server call without doing somthing about network introspection19:47
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anteayaShrews: language19:48
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Shrewsmordred: that sounds sane19:48
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openstackgerritJohn Patterson proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add regexp option to conditional publisher  https://review.openstack.org/22912319:50
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mordredShrews: k. I'm going to write a patch19:51
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anteayafungi: were we going to get to the gerrit status etherpad?19:52
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fungianteaya: yep, i'll push it in here at the end19:52
anteayafungi: thanks19:52
fungithanks for the reminder19:52
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Raise minimum django_openstack_auth to > 1.2.x  https://review.openstack.org/22554919:52
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add puppet-openstack_spec_helper project  https://review.openstack.org/22912620:00
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clarkbmordred: when you get a break with shade + nodepool https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226591/2 is related to a thing one of your patches hit (adding test coveragewhere we didn't have it in nodepool)20:00
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anteayaso if the bug is in gerrit master it won't go away until it gets fixed20:00
openstackgerritNisha Agarwal proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add a new element hpdsa  https://review.openstack.org/22088820:00
clarkbanteaya: correct20:00
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anteayaand it sounds like it won't get fixed unless we fix it20:01
zaroyup20:01
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zaroseems like it20:01
clarkband I believe that jgit and cyanogenmod and gerrit and android and all of these other large public gerrit instances are affected20:01
mordredclarkb: ++20:01
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zaroi've asked wikimedia guys and they are not interested either.20:01
anteayaclarkb: but either they don't agree or they don't see it20:01
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: Move test assertions closer to apply.  https://review.openstack.org/22759620:01
EmilienMcrinkle: https://review.openstack.org/22912620:01
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clarkbzaro: does wikimedia just up the timeout?20:02
zaroclarkb: could be they are on older version of gerrit, was introduced in 2.1020:02
clarkbgotcha20:02
zaroclarkb: no wikimedia is on 2.820:02
zaroand they are not interested in upgrading, specifically because of that bug20:03
clarkbzaro: http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/q/status:open is 2.1120:03
fungihrm, so wikimedia is in the same boat we are? opportunity to pool resources/influence perhaps20:03
clarkbandroid is even newer and gerrit itself follows master20:03
openstackgerritClint Adams proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add script to facilitate project renaming in {projects,channels,layout}.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/22800220:03
ClintAJaeger: ^ there you go20:03
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack/requirements: Bump minimum os-testr version to 0.4.0  https://review.openstack.org/22912920:03
mordredShrews:             nets = cloud.search_networks(20:04
zarofungi: unfortunately the are ok with not upgrading because their next upgrade might be to phabricator20:04
mordred                filters={'router:external': False, 'shared': False})20:04
mordredwhy shared False?20:04
fungizaro: yeah, i wondered if they were considering that lateral move option :/20:04
AJaegerthanks, Clint ! That was quick...20:04
mordredShrews: oh - are those negative filters?20:04
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zarofungi: also the Gerrit guy there said he didn't even want to try because some of the cores already tried20:05
Shrewsmordred:  no20:05
Shrewsmordred: this is where?20:05
mordredShrews: oh. bah20:05
anteayazaro: this is Sasa?20:05
mordredI was looking at the private function, not the public one20:05
Shrewsoh20:05
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zaroanteaya: no, Sasa is with SAS, Christian is the guy at wikimedia20:05
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anteayazaro: ah okay thanks, so Christian doesn't want to try to upgrade gerrit20:06
zarohe might want to upgrade but doesn't want to try to fix that bug.20:07
zarohe might upgrade if that bug is fixed.20:07
zaro*might/would consider upgrading20:08
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anteayazaro: oh I see what you are saying20:09
anteayaso no support from Christian in formulating the take on the bug strategy20:09
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zaroanteaya: nope20:09
zaroanteaya: so again, i'm in favor of your porposal20:10
zaroproposal to publicise our Gerrit problem.20:10
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/requirements: Add weakmethod backport library (for 2.7 and 2.6 only)  https://review.openstack.org/22591120:11
zaroanteaya: i'm wondering if it would be more advantages to be more broad20:11
anteayazaro: I'm wondering that myself20:11
zaroanteaya: i'm thinking just trying to get more people involved with hacking on Gerrit20:12
anteayawe might need to canvas quite a group to find the special someone willing to take this on20:12
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anteayazaro: no argument from me20:12
zaroi guess what i mean is more openstack people20:12
zaroi'm not sure whether that's even a good idea at an openstack summit20:13
anteayathat would be a start20:13
anteayawell you have attended a gerrit conf in the past have you not?20:13
anteayaI'm wondering if we might find easier prospects at such an event20:14
zaroyes, and they are looking for more contributors.  https://groups.google.com/d/msg/repo-discuss/8oCDXItB1U8/I4Qi4K0VAwAJ20:14
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zarobut i guess which open source project isn't :)20:14
persiaIf the schedule allows, having a session in Tokyo about it may be helpful, even if one can't schedule a gerrit conference.  There are a fair number of people who pay more attention to cross-project things at summits than during the regular season.20:15
anteayapersia: good point20:16
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anteayaperhaps a penciled out portion during the friday meetup/sprint day?20:16
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anteayazaro persia thoughts?20:16
persiaMy only worry is that on that day, there doesn't tend to be a lot of room-changing.  A few people walk, but a lot of people cluster.20:17
persia(just because there is always so much that didn't get done at Summit that needs focus)20:17
zaroaren't lots of people gone by fri?20:17
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persiazaro: Not the folk that would be good candidates for this, really.  Folk willing to hack on some random thing that won't earn them ATC tend to be the folk who stay the extra day for social reasons even if they didn't have some meetup to attend.20:18
* anteaya is open to other suggestions for snagging folks willing to work on gerrit20:18
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zaroworth a shot i guess.20:19
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fungiwould be nice if we had a channel to tell openstack member companies "our community relies on gerrit, please contribute some full-time headcount to contributing to the gerrit project"20:19
anteayafungi: ohhh I like that idea20:20
pleia2fungi: indeed20:20
zarois there a template for that20:20
fungii can prod foundation people with that detail, but the telephone game quickly loses coherency for stuff like that20:20
anteayaI actually think we need a new dedicated person for this20:20
persiaCould try to reach out to the Product Management team: supposedly they do some collective coordination of resource allocation.20:20
anteayapersia: have they been effective in resource allocation?20:20
persia(although they usually ignore infra, for obvious reasons)20:20
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anteayaI hear that is part of their expectation, has any seen any evidence of it actually happening?20:21
clarkbwait why would you ignore us? thats not obvious to me20:21
zarotokyo would actually be a good opportunity because one of the Gerrit maintainers will be attending.  i can try to rope him in.20:21
anteayayeah I don't really want to hang my hat on something that won't net results20:21
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clarkbthe entire product relies on functioning developer infrastructure...20:21
persiaanteaya: I understand that there have been some agreements in that forum that led to fufilled obligations during the Liberty cycle.  My visiion there is poor currently, as my last update on status was at OSCON.20:21
fungiin some ways, we're too successfully at keeping things running, so it's not externally obvious when we're struggling with fundamental issues20:22
fungier, successful20:22
clarkbfungi: are you saying we need to introduce artifical failures?20:22
fungiYES, that's totally what i was saying20:22
persiaclarkb: They ignore infra mostly because most of the people in Product Marketing work for contributor organisations on those organisations downstream products, and so are focused on common feature development, rather than anything else.20:22
fungiwho wants to play with implementing chaos monkey in our infrastructure? ;)20:22
anteayapersia: thanks for your insight, dated as it might be, it is better than mine which is absent20:23
anteayafungi: yes, I was thinking that the other day20:23
anteayafolks take us for granted now that we don't keep blowing over in the wind20:23
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anteayawhen it was obvious in channel that we were dealing with something major we seemed to have that much more support20:24
anteayaI think we may need some chaos monkey20:24
persiaI'll note that some of the organisations that sponsor infra team members have been regular attendees at Product Management sessions and midcycles (at least from reports I received), so it may be that there are channels that folk here can push internally that can help feed the other end of the machine.20:24
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zaroso what's the most appropriate way to go about getting more hackers interested in Gerrit at the summit?20:26
clarkbmaybe we can start with the ML20:26
anteayazaro: I'm actually thinking the question you just asked might be a great topic for a post to the ml20:26
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clarkb"hey openstack-dev heres the thing. Remember when we upgraded Gerrit and it exploded? well we would like to fix that but are in a resource crunch. If you have an interset in fixing bugs in large useful java applications this is where you should start"20:27
persiaML is a good start.  Having a note in the schedule app that gerrit is under discussion at a specific time can also help cause potentially interested people to attend20:27
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anteayafungi: oh speaking of which the irc-meetings repo needs an update for the infra meeting20:28
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anteayafungi: the chair needs an update20:28
zarook.  i'll start with ML, copy/paste of clarkb message20:28
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openstackgerritDavid Moreau Simard proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Also look for stackforge puppet modules when copying logs  https://review.openstack.org/22913620:28
fungianteaya: thanks, i was intending to update that and other places but got sidetracked. will take care of asap20:28
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anteayafungi: sure, along with all the other things on the asap list20:28
* fungi nods ;)20:29
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anteayazaro: I think you are opening up the discussion nicely, well done20:29
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clarkbzaro: well you should clean it up but ya :)20:29
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zaroactually rawness of that seems appealing :)20:30
clarkbha20:30
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zarobut i am the only openstacker that sems to hack on gerrit so what do i know20:31
anteayazaro: we need to get you some company20:31
anteayain the gerrit hacking20:31
zarowill do one of those etherpads for let you review20:31
anteayaawesome20:31
* anteaya stands by to review20:32
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Provide a short-circuit for finding public network  https://review.openstack.org/22914020:32
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mordredShrews: ^^20:33
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Shrewsmordred: will look in a bit20:34
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Add nibalizer to infra-root  https://review.openstack.org/22652620:34
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funginibalizer: ^ don't spend it all in one place20:35
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clarkbianw: I +2's the fedora22 image change20:37
clarkbnow just need one more core to agree its ok as a first step20:37
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ianwclarkb: thanks!  pabelanger and i will beat it into shape.  f22 was an unfortunately large change20:39
ianwchanging underling package manager (dnf) and puppet4 all in one20:39
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clarkbya quite a bit of churn20:39
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Add yolanda to infra root  https://review.openstack.org/22664320:40
fungiyolanda: ^ there you go20:41
pleia2hooray20:41
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openstackgerritDolph Mathews proposed openstack/requirements: Add freezegun to global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/22860320:41
nibalizerfungi: \o/20:42
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sc68caljeblair: found an interesting crash with Gertty version: 1.2.2.dev17 - viewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228100/ causes the following stacktrace - http://paste.openstack.org/show/474743/20:43
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anteayathis is the licence of a tool Piet would like infra to take a look at hosting for him: https://github.com/kobotoolbox/kobocat/blob/master/LICENSE20:44
anteayado any licencing folks feel that would work for us?20:44
* anteaya is uncertain20:44
PietWe are also looking at limesurvey if the license is more agreeable20:45
clarkbthat looks like a bsd license? I think its k20:45
anteayaPiet: have you a link to the limesurvey licence?20:45
anteayaclarkb: great thank you, the all rights reserved threw me when I looked at it last night20:45
PietLet me look.  Currently in the TC meeting20:46
clarkbanteaya: thats redundant under US copyright law iirc20:46
pleia2hm, I thought I looked last night and it was AGPL20:46
clarkbthough I am not a lawyer20:46
anteayaclarkb: oh, hmmmm, didn't know that20:46
sc68calclarkb: yeah that was my thought too, if you squint hard it looks like BSD20:46
fungi"all rights reserved" is redundant ever since the berne convention20:46
anteayapleia2: okay thanks for looking20:46
pleia2maybe I was looking at the wrong project in their github repo20:46
anteayafungi: thank you20:46
pabelangerclarkb: ianw: indeed! excited to watch it20:47
anteayawell kobotoolbox has 4 different tools20:47
sc68callooks like 2 clause - http://opensource.org/licenses/BSD-2-Clause20:47
clarkbso not to throw massive wrench in that20:47
anteayatheir source is a tad scattered since their deliverable is a vagrant image20:47
pleia2ah, it was dkobo that's AGPL20:47
clarkbBut we really need to figure out the rax quota situation before we start agreeing to go deploying a bunch more tools20:47
anteayaclarkb: good to know20:47
* clarkb wants to be upfront with the current situation basically being we can't deploy new things right now20:47
pleia2clarkb: mordred still looking into that?20:47
anteayaclarkb: thanks for being upfront20:48
mordredaroo?20:48
clarkbpleia2: I think mordred said that he got a response and that rax would look at it but I haven't heard that anything has changed20:48
clarkbmordred: our rax quota20:48
mordredclarkb: oh - I got a response that our quota had been increased20:48
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pleia2neat20:48
mordredsorry, should have said something20:48
clarkbmordred: thanks20:48
anteayamordred: to what?20:48
anteayamordred: do we know?20:48
pleia2one million!20:48
clarkbI would check what the clouds say but its actually really hard to get that data20:48
clarkbanother API that should be simpler20:48
mordredanteaya: to whatever we requested - which I do not remember right now :)20:48
pleia2it is hard, we only found out our current quota when we hit it20:48
Pietanteaya: https://www.limesurvey.org/en/about-limesurvey/license20:48
clarkbwhat is my quota and how much of it am I using20:48
anteayaone million, a nice round number20:49
anteayamordred: great thanks20:49
clarkbmordred: have you been able to read my comments on the nodepool change?20:49
mordredclarkb: not yet20:49
anteayapleia2: ha ha ha, oh _there's_ the line20:49
anteayaPiet: thank you20:49
mordredclarkb: they're coming next - hacking on the network finding efficiency right now20:49
yolandafungi thx20:50
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openstackgerritJohn L. Villalovos proposed openstack/requirements: Add mimic to global requirements to use in tests  https://review.openstack.org/22026820:53
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: There is no tripleo-incubator package  https://review.openstack.org/22849220:53
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openstackgerritMarco Nenciarini proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support for Shiningpanda's Tox Builder  https://review.openstack.org/22400721:02
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pleia2ianw: re: 186619, the names don't match, dib_fedora-22 in nodepool.logging.conf.erb vs. just fedora-22 in nodepool.yaml.erb, shouldn't they?21:05
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clarkbzaro: is it safe to rerun jobs that use JJB?21:06
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Provide short-circuit for finding server networks  https://review.openstack.org/22914021:08
mordredShrews, clarkb, jeblair: updated to handle private networks too - because looking for a private address on a cloud where you know there is no such thing is just a waste of time21:09
clarkbmordred: looking21:09
anteayaclarkb: oh and for clarity the point about tc candidates only needed foundation membership, I said it was in the by-laws and it isn't, it is in the charter21:09
mordredif we like the general shape, I'll go write the tests - I have tested it by hand empirically21:09
anteayaclarkb: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-October/048102.html21:09
clarkbanteaya: thanks21:10
anteayaclarkb: welcome21:10
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mordredclarkb: yeah - I think we can change the way the task manager interactions work for sure - I think we still want a nodepool specific task manager because we need threads, but yes in general21:12
fungianteaya: tc charter is an appendix of the foundation bylaws, right?21:12
clarkbmordred: right I think the current base class of ProviderManager sticks around, but we don't need a specific ProviderManager subclass21:12
clarkbmordred: because all of that is basically shade now21:13
anteayafungi: it is a separate document21:13
anteayafungi: the by-laws are the canonical rules21:13
fungiahh, clearly i need to revisit them yet again21:13
anteayathe tc charter fills in some gaps and governs the tc21:13
anteayabut any contradiction and the by-laws rule21:13
anteayabut the by-laws don't cover everythign the tc needs21:13
zaroclarkb: yes, it should actually work now.21:13
anteayaso the charter is the document there21:13
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mordredclarkb: yup21:14
anteayafor instance the by-laws say the tc runs elections however it wants21:14
anteayawhich is a tad thin to actually administer them21:14
fungianteaya: right you are. was confusing the tc charter with bylaws appendix 421:14
clarkbmordred: but you dont need that in the current change :) would be a good follow up21:14
anteayabut the by-laws do weigh in specificially on defining an atc21:14
mordredclarkb: +10021:14
anteayafungi: ah21:14
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mordredclarkb: so - I am now aware of zero clouds without support for keypairs21:16
mordredclarkb: which makes me unsure as to the answer to your question, as I have zero test clouds to test such a scenario on21:16
clarkbmordred: hrm, I wonder if maybe we just say "this is required to nodepool"21:17
mordredclarkb: the intent is that delete_keypair should only throw an exception if something out of the ordinary happens. it will usually return True orFalse21:17
mordredclarkb: I think we should21:17
clarkbmordred: but maybe git log can provide insights as well21:17
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clarkbmordred: in that case I think we can just clean up the old exception handling21:17
mordredclarkb: it would also clean up the section where we play with passwords21:17
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clarkbya21:17
mordredclarkb: but I may do that also as a follow on21:18
clarkbmordred: wfm21:18
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Nothing to see here  https://review.openstack.org/11101121:20
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clarkbmordred: what is an external network flag?21:25
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clarkbmordred: I am a little confused on why we need 3 values to describe how to set the network21:25
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Just let shade and os-client-config handle clouds  https://review.openstack.org/22675821:26
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Use shade for all OpenStack interactions  https://review.openstack.org/22675121:26
mordredclarkb: there are three things, two are configurable21:26
mordredclarkb: one is "here is the name of my network" - one is "I do not have a network of this type"21:27
clarkbmordred: also in your init you look only to oscc which isn't terrible but you could populate from the cloud itself if oscc doesn't know21:27
mordredthose need to be separate because you might not have a name an dyou want it to be autodetected21:27
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clarkbmordred: what is the third for?21:27
mordredthe third is just a "yes, we've looked once and do not need to ever look again" flag21:27
clarkbgotcha21:27
mordredprobably should be called _stamp :)21:27
mordredclarkb: not sure what yo umean by "from the cloud itself" ?21:28
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clarkbmordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229140/2/shade/__init__.py line 252 instead of defaulting to None call the get_external_network() function?21:28
clarkbmordred: assuming the other value is true21:29
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mordredclarkb: but then you might look at the network for an instantiation of a cloud that does not care21:29
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mordredsuch as if you just were using shade to upload an image, for instance21:29
clarkbhrm ok21:29
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openstackgerritJohn L. Villalovos proposed openstack/requirements: Add mimic to global requirements to use in tests  https://review.openstack.org/22026821:30
clarkbmordred: so its lazy I can live withthat21:30
mordred\o/21:30
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clarkbmordred: would it be worthwhile providing a way to change the external network without making a new cloud object?21:30
clarkbI think nodepool will make a new cloud object so doesn't matter there21:31
mordredclarkb: yes21:31
mordredclarkb: I do think it's worthwhile21:31
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Update PTL contact info for new service providers  https://review.openstack.org/22915421:32
clarkbmordred: this looks like code that could be deduped if you want by passing a filter to a generic function21:32
clarkbmordred: then wrapping with the outer get functions21:32
openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix Rally gates to use Cinder API v1  https://review.openstack.org/22915521:33
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mordredclarkb: I alo agree with that21:33
Shrewsmordred: i will have to look at this change tomorrow21:35
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mordredShrews: I will have more updates for it by tomorrow21:36
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Shrewsmordred: my joy knows no bounds21:38
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asselinhey, so I'm trying to make progress with the common-ci spec and there's a few things blocking21:40
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Update Infra meeting chair for new PTL  https://review.openstack.org/22915621:40
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asselinI have some patch review links on this etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/common-ci-sprint21:41
asselinFirst in the chain of dependencies is: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189762/ nodepool Update nodepool to use secure.conf file21:42
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asselinit's a big patch that's been around for a while21:42
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asselinI see mordred has some nodepool shade patches and might cause conflicts.21:43
zaroclarkb, fungi, anteaya: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Gerrit_get_involved21:43
asselinthen there's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199674/ puppet-os_client_config Manage OSCC config file with Puppet21:44
asselinI remember clarkb having objections to using @config.to_yaml. Anyone else?21:45
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clarkbmordred: reviewed that ahde thing21:45
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clarkbasselin its completely redundant and unnecessary21:46
clarkbasselin it only adds complexity (bugs)21:46
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asselinclarkb, ok, what's the other approach?21:47
asselinfollow what system-config is doing now?21:47
clarkbasselin hiera can do files or just put it in hiera directly21:47
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clarkbbasically dont do the unneeded conversion just go hiera -> file21:47
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anteayazaro: looks good, I did some grammar fixes21:48
anteayafungi: any opinion on zaro's etherpad? do you feel it is strong enough?21:49
anteayaclarkb jeblair pleia2 ^^21:49
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asselinclarkb, hmm...I didn't find any file, but I can certainly agree it can do multi-line string21:49
clarkbasselin: I think its a plugin21:50
clarkbasselin: but my point is that doing yaml -> puppet dsl -> yaml is silly21:50
asselinclarkb, would you object to multiline string?21:50
clarkbasselin: in hiera? no21:50
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fungianteaya: zaro: looks like a good place to start21:50
asselinclarkb, ok will do that.21:51
clarkbasselin: I also don't think that needs a special module21:51
fungianteaya: zaro: maybe mention "in #openstack-infra or on openstack-infra@lists.openstack.org" to the second paragraph?21:51
clarkbasselin: its literally writing a single file from hiera verbatim21:51
pleia2fungi: ++21:51
pleia2was just going to suggest contact info21:51
pleia2otherwise lgtm21:52
anteayafungi: yeah that is a good suggestion21:52
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fungibut other than that, looks like an accurate representation of our current status21:52
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zarodo you think it shoould be sent out to openstack-dev or openstack-infra?21:52
anteayazaro: -dev21:52
asselinclarkb, ok, for nodepool I will make it multi-line string. If/when in the future there's a module, we can migrate to that or not.21:52
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anteayazaro: you are looking for new devs, go wide21:53
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clarkbzaro: lgtm21:53
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anteayaand hopefully member companies as well21:53
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fungiyeah, -dev. the subscribers to -infra mostly know the score already (i hope?)21:54
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fungithis is about finding a larger audience21:54
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zarook, that's what i thought as well.21:55
fungii'm on the fence as to whether it needs an [infra] subject tag. adding that may limit visibility, on the other hand the people who explicitly exclude infra discussions maybe aren't going to be much help to us anyway21:56
zarofungi: so where did you suggest to mention openstack-infra?21:56
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fungizaro: around "let the openstack-infra folks know" (the natural question that raises is, "how do i let them know?")21:56
pleia2here, I'll propose an edit21:57
anteayazaro fungi I have added a new subject line21:57
anteayawhat do you think?21:57
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pleia2zaro, fungi: added as a footnote21:57
fungipleia2: anteaya: lgtm21:57
fungi(subject and footnote)21:57
anteayapleia2: looks good21:57
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zarogerriters looove footies21:58
anteayafungi: addresses the tag issue21:58
anteayazaro: ah good we are starting with good bait21:58
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pleia2maybe also work Java into the subject?21:58
zaroanteaya: 'infra looking for' instead of 'infra needs'?21:59
anteayaI would say needs21:59
anteayayou have said we can't upgrade unless that is fixed21:59
zarothen LGTM21:59
anteayathat moves it solidly to needs in my mind21:59
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fungipleia2: oh, wait, might want to reorder those footnotes21:59
fungi1<->222:00
pleia2I can count \o/22:00
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fungiheh22:00
anteayacounting is overrated22:00
pleia2fixed22:00
fungialternative: footnote enumeration in descending order!22:00
anteayaha ha ha22:00
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anteayai'm happy to see that sent out22:00
fungii may give that a shot in the future, just to mess with people22:01
anteayafungi: you would22:01
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mordredclarkb: laptop battery died. I'm no hacky hacky till I land22:01
clarkbmordred: thats fine, commented on the use shade patch, it mostly got there with the addresses stuff22:01
clarkbmordred: its looking good22:02
mordredcool22:02
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fungii've got some eveningish things i need to tackle, but will be around if anything urgent pops up22:03
openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Add support for os-client  https://review.openstack.org/22916222:03
clarkbmordred: also you haven't figured out how to vim in connectbo on your phone yet?22:04
clarkbmordred: :P22:04
anteayaenjoy furniture fungi22:04
clarkbmy connectbot connection can't connect to anything that can push code22:04
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clarkbfungi: do those things include hurricane prep?22:05
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fungiclarkb: nope, already dropped down the shutters for the storm-sensitive windows downstairs. the upstairs windows can withstand high winds22:06
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fungiotherwise already fairly prepared here if things take a turn for the worse22:06
docaedofungi: not urgent, but the app catalog still needs an SSL cert I believe22:06
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Add Fedora 22 DIB nodes  https://review.openstack.org/18661922:06
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docaedofungi: the review has been blessed by some very smart people so far (https://review.openstack.org/226984) so just remindering you22:07
fungidocaedo: thanks! i'll try to buy a cert for it tomorrow and add it to hiera22:07
docaedofungi: thank you, very much appreciate your excellence :)22:08
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fungiand you yours!22:08
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fungier, i yours22:08
docaedohaha22:08
fungisomething like that22:08
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mordredclarkb: I have no connectbots22:10
mordredclarkb: I do the weechat android client to talk to my weechat22:10
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jokke_fungi: you're expecting hurrincane to hit the neighbourhood?22:12
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clarkbjokke_: tropical storm joaquin is expected to become a hurricane tomorrow then track up the US east coast22:13
anteayaah22:13
boris-42clarkb: mordred hi guys could you please merge this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229155/ (Rally gates are broken)22:13
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boris-42clarkb: mordred thanks22:13
jokke_clarkb: ouch22:13
jokke_well all West-Coasters, please be safe there!22:14
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anteayazaro: where you going to send out that post to the dev mailing list?22:14
fungijokke_: yeah, not expecting, just making sure i'm ready22:14
jokke_east-coasters even22:14
docaedoI advocate safety from coast to coast22:14
anteayafungi: have you been through one yet in the new house?22:15
jokke_fungi: makes sense ... be safe and hopefully your precautions are not needed22:15
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openstackgerritJohn Dickinson proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make gate-swift-tox-func voting  https://review.openstack.org/20572322:15
openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Add support for os-client  https://review.openstack.org/22916222:17
asselinclarkb, I hope I can get your support for this patch ^^ basic copy and paste of https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/system-config/tree/modules/openstack_project/manifests/nodepool_prod.pp22:17
fungianteaya: i have not, but the house has been here through 30 years of them so i'm not too worried22:18
clarkbasselin: should that var be required? or is an empty file ok?22:18
asselinclarkb, I've found an empty file works just fine22:18
asselinof course you need creditials in nodepool.yaml in that case22:19
clarkbasselin: except that nodepool wont function22:19
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asselinclarkb, really? mine is working22:19
anteayafungi: hope it is mild for you22:19
clarkbasselin: yes nodepool itself supports it but taht module doesn't22:19
clarkbasselin: you would have to write out the file with secrets in git22:19
asselinclarkb, in git?22:20
clarkbasselin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229162/2/manifests/nodepool.pp line 6022:20
clarkbasselin: it takes a path (to support projcet-config like configs) which implies that to go that route would require commiting those secrets to git22:20
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asselinclarkb, no, line 60 would be your nodepool.yaml file in project-config w/o any secrets22:21
asselinclarkb, your secrets would be passed in via $oscc_file_contents22:21
clarkbasselin: I know thats my point22:21
clarkbasselin: so you should make oscc_file_contents required22:21
asselinclarkb, well..I see, in this case you're 'allowed' to have secrets in git. You prefer not having that option?22:22
asselinor at least forcing the user to pass in ''22:22
asselinok I can set the default to undef22:22
clarkbyes22:23
clarkbno22:23
openstackgerritMerged openstack/diskimage-builder: Add functional test for ironic-agent on Fedora  https://review.openstack.org/22629322:23
clarkbdont set it to undef either22:23
clarkbjust dont set it22:23
asselinok, no objections22:23
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openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Add support for os-client  https://review.openstack.org/22916222:24
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docaedoI think these two are ready for a merge, is there anything more I need to do? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226999/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227413/22:27
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zaroanteaya: just sent it.22:30
zaromordred: android weechat client? /me must investigate22:31
openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Add support for os-client  https://review.openstack.org/22916222:32
mordredzaro: yup! it's awesome22:32
docaedozaro: I can attest, it's the best (weechat). shell, android client or web browser (glowing-bear.org)22:33
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openstackgerritJohn Dickinson proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make gate-swift-tox-func voting  https://review.openstack.org/20572322:35
anteayazaro: wonderful thank youi22:36
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anteayazaro: nicely done22:38
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Update Infra meeting chair for new PTL  https://review.openstack.org/22915622:47
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openstackgerritAri proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Implements: additions for OS3 plugin entry points in builders and scm Updated with comments  https://review.openstack.org/22910022:48
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Update meeting info for Cinder  https://review.openstack.org/22912122:49
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openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Create a single-node 3rd party ci system  https://review.openstack.org/20033022:59
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openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Update meeting info for 3rd party ci working group  https://review.openstack.org/22917823:05
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jheskethMorning23:21
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anteayamorning jhesketh23:22
clarkbjhesketh: good morning, we don't think the osloganalyze swift index generation thing is working23:22
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clarkbjhesketh: details in the meeting log or I can dig them up if it helps23:22
jheskethHmm okay23:22
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jheskethI need to read the meeting anyway23:23
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anteayaafter you read the meeting I am on this etherpad brainstorming as instructed: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-mitaka-summit-planning23:23
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anteayajhesketh: do join me if you feel like it23:23
pleia2signed8bit: as mentioned on Twitter, zaro is the one currently doing our Gerrit work23:24
jheskethanteaya: okay :-)23:24
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signed8bitI'd be up for pitching in on Gerrit where I have time. I've been running Gerrit for our internal infra and have written a few plugins, e.g. Slack integration, so I know a bit of the codebase from that side.23:25
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pleia2\o/23:26
zarosigned8bit: ohh cool.  somebody that know it23:26
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signed8bitWell sort of :-)23:26
clarkbmorgan: reviewed your devstack change23:26
clarkbmorgan: I think making those changes will get postgres passing23:26
morganclarkb: ++ haven't come back to look at it yet. i saw jenkins failed it23:27
zarosigned8bit: i didn't see slack integration upstream, is that something in your private repo?23:27
clarkbmorgan: I am curious to see job runtimes but looks like its the postgres not neutron job that uses eventlet23:27
signed8bitinternal now... but i want to get that upstream23:27
clarkbmorgan: so kestone likely not at afault for slow neutron tests23:27
morganah oh it is postgres23:27
morganya23:27
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morganbah23:28
anteayasigned8bit: yay!23:28
clarkbmorgan: but I figured I would help out and figure out why that job failed :)23:28
zarosigned8bit: is that in form of a plugin?23:28
signed8bitYep, and it uses project specific config for setting a channel and some other options23:28
clarkbsigned8bit: are you running gerrit > 2.8 and have you run into the git diff packfile bug?23:28
jheskethclarkb: I think we just need to set the generate_folder_index flag in the wsgi.conf23:28
clarkbjhesketh: oh! I hadnt reviewed the change so didn't realize there was extra config23:29
zarosigned8bit: so have you heard of the diff timeout issue?  https://code.google.com/p/gerrit/issues/detail?id=342423:29
clarkbjhesketh: should that be a default?23:29
jheskethyeah23:29
zarosigned8bit: it was all the rage a few months ago on the gerrit ML.23:29
signed8bitWe haven't run into that one yet and are on 2.9.4 currently23:29
clarkbjhesketh: I am happy to approve a change to get the config through now if you want to push it up23:29
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jheskethhmm, depends how you use os-loganalyze... its legacy use not so much, but it's turned into a full log browser23:29
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zarosigned8bit: ahh, it was introduced in 2.10 i believe.23:30
jheskethclarkb: yep, one sec23:30
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clarkbjhesketh: ya good point, maybe we can pick a point in time to make a major version release where we set these things23:30
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zarosigned8bit: trying to get around MyersDiff or something like that.23:30
signed8bitI guess I should wait on upgrading :-)23:30
morganbah.. did not mean to do that yet23:30
zarosigned8bit: that was be wise atm23:31
clarkbmorgan: aroo?23:31
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zarosigned8bit: well we would like to upgrade but need that fixed first.  was wondering if you would be willing to help work on that?23:32
morganclarkb: anyway there we go. fixed the comments23:32
clarkbmorgan: great23:32
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openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Turn on os-loganalyze dynamic indexes  https://review.openstack.org/22918423:32
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jheskethclarkb: ^23:32
pleia2signed8bit: this is the etherpad zaro started working in earlier to outline scope of the issue and things https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/I0eV4IgkZS23:32
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signed8bitthanks! yeah I am happy to help there if I can23:33
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clarkbjhesketh: and on the other os loganalyze change I suggested updating the html file used for is html tesing add some blank lines23:33
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asselinzaro, I'd like to help out with gerrit....my plate's full now but hopefully soon, i'll let you know23:34
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zaroasselin: thanks!23:34
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jheskethclarkb: ah okay, I'll re-roll that today23:34
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clarkbjhesketh: +2 on tat other change23:35
clarkbpleia2: nibalizer jeblair fungi mordred any other cores want to review 229184? I can babysit23:35
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pleia2I'll have a look23:36
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clarkbgreat thanks23:37
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zarosigned8bit: my proposed fix to jgit might be completely wrong.  i think that's what the Gerrit guys are saying in that review.23:38
zarosigned8bit: it's some java threading issue that's hard to pinpoint.23:38
anteayapabelanger: have you had a chance to look at the comments on the puppet-stackalytics patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190708/23:39
signed8bitzaro: Threading fun!23:39
signed8bitzaro: let me have a look at that review23:39
zaroi bet your a pro at debugging those :)23:40
signed8bitzaro: and get the context23:40
signed8bitzaro: is anyone really a pro at that23:40
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pleia2clarkb: care to land a logging change? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221332/23:41
clarkbpleia2: looking23:41
pleia2no meetings for 50 minutes (looks like a docs meeting coming up at 0030 utc)23:41
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clarkbthats what my calendar says too23:42
clarkband zuul isn't busy so should merge fast23:42
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* pleia2 nods23:42
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clarkbpleia2: approved23:43
pleia2thanks23:43
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Log openstack-heat-translator IRC channel  https://review.openstack.org/22133223:48
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anteayaheat-translator needs its own irc channel?23:48
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clarkbanteaya: that thought occured to me too, but meh23:49
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anteayaokey dokey, meh it is23:49
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signed8bitzaro: Speaking up upstreaming a plugin, I was going to just get it up on github, would getting it into gerrit-review.googlesource.com be the best path?23:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Factor out yaml emitter/dumper functions from normalize_projects_yaml.py  https://review.openstack.org/22865523:54
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Nothing to see here  https://review.openstack.org/11101123:56
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Turn on os-loganalyze dynamic indexes  https://review.openstack.org/22918423:57
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Alphabetize channels in channels.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/22870223:57
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Fix Rally gates to use Cinder API v1  https://review.openstack.org/22915523:59

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