Thursday, 2015-08-13

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mmmporki swear it won't happen again ;)00:13
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openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Upgrade grafana.o.o to 2.1.0
openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Bump puppetlabs-apt to 2.1.0
openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: A warning comment
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openstackgerritSteven Dake proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Kolla: add non-voting build job
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nibalizerpabelanger: i rebased some of your stuff sorry, I'll try to put it back the way I found it00:32
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openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Upgrade grafana.o.o to 2.1.0
openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: A warning comment
nibalizerokay much better00:43
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openstackgerritSteven Dake proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Kolla: add non-voting build job
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openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: Add tests for behind_proxy functionality
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openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: Fix logic in selinux execs
openstackgerritSteven Dake proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Kolla: add non-voting build job
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Create openstack/kosmos project repo and jobs as experimental
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openstackgerritSteven Dake proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Kolla: add non-voting build job
openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: Fix logic in selinux execs
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dougwighello infra.  now that has merged, can someone please add me to kosmos-core and kosmos-release?no01:03
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dougwigoops, sorry, mis-hit enter.  puppet hasn't done its thing yet.  please disregard.01:03
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anteayadougwig: ha ha ha, you had it tee'd up01:06
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Remove XML only checks from security-doc
dougwiganteaya: i typed it, then thought, i bet it hasn't been applied yet, it hadn't, so i was waiting, and then someone asked me something and ...  sigh.  :)01:06
anteayaha ha ha01:07
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anteayaby the way, I'm making toast01:08
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dougwigok, take 2, for real: hello infra.  now that has merged, can someone please add me to kosmos-core and kosmos-release?  :)01:09
jeblairdougwig: done01:10
dougwigjeblair: thank you.01:10
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openstackgerritSteven Dake proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Kolla: add non-voting build job
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openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add nonvoting beaker tests to infra/puppet*
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openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/puppet-httpd: Allow httpd::vhost to take a content parameter
openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/puppet-httpd: Add vim swp files to gitignore
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openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Allow JJB to set connection timeout to jenkins server
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openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Allow JJB to set connection timeout to jenkins server
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/zuul: Remove ready_ahead from scheduler
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Fix check-syntax manuals check
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openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add nonvoting beaker tests to infra/puppet*
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sdakejeblair now that stackforge is deprecated, are you planning a mass move for all projects in some sort of automated way?01:32
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anteayathe only automated way is the same human line up renames have used up until now01:41
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anteayawe will have a plan, which we need to create01:41
anteayaprojects that don't want/need to be in the governance repo don't need to do anything at the moment01:42
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openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed openstack-dev/cookiecutter: Bump requirements files
openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed openstack-dev/cookiecutter: Remove python 2.6, which is not supported in Liberty
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove check-dg-tempest-*
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fungisdake: no mass rename planned for the foreseeable future. at the moment it's that we'll honor and batch up requests to rename into the common "openstack" namespace, and avoid adding new projects to the old "stackforge" namespace unnecessarily (really only allowing it for consistency reasons)01:51
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sdakefungi cool thanks, so i should keep my rename eview open for kolla01:51
fungisdake: yep, we will get to it. maybe not next week but soon01:52
sdakeno rush just keep geting asked about it01:52
sdakeand I point to james email that says "it doesn't matter, the projects.yaml matters"01:52
openstackgerritDavid Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Change functional testing to use clouds.yaml
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anteayanight fungi01:55
sdakefungi take care01:55
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Include latest oslo.config in requirements.txt
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove extra { on zuul-git-branch-prep
ianwfungi: ^ when around, trivial but just noticed it02:12
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Remove check-dg-tempest-*
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openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add nonvoting beaker tests to infra/puppet*
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madhu_akianw, ping02:27
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openstackgerritHuang Rui proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create new project ceilometer-zvm on stackforge
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openstackgerritYe-hong Fang proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Adds debian support to iso element
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jgriffithanybody else seen the failures on openstack client calls yet?
jgriffithSeeing it on a few third party CI's that don't use node-pool and confirmed it locally03:27
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ianwmadhu_ak: hi03:29
anteayajgriffith: logstash isn't seeing it:
anteayajgriffith: do you know how long ago it started showing up for you?03:30
SamYapledoes anyone know the kernel running on the ubuntu gate machines?03:32
SamYaplefedora is 3.19 I believe03:32
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anteayaSamYaple: I don't know how often a fresh precise or trusty is pulled for image creation03:34
anteayabut images are created every 24 hours03:34
anteayawith the prior image being used if the image fails03:34
SamYapleanteaya: ok03:34
anteayabut no, I don't know the kernel version running on the ubuntu nodes03:35
SamYapleso not much control over kernel there03:35
ianwSamYaple: if you look at logs, there's uname output right at the top03:35
anteayajgriffith: it seems to start when keystone is started: 2015-08-13 03:21:42.119 | + export OS_URL=
SamYapleianw: dont have an ubuntu gate on the project currently to check that. thanks for your link!03:35
anteayajgriffith: v2.0 is exported and then os-url uses v3 --os-url=
anteayajgriffith: might it be a keystone version issue?03:37
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madhu_akianw, yeah, I saw your comment for vpnaas experimental job patch and commented back to you03:39
madhu_akcould you check and confirm ianw03:39
ianwmadhu_ak: ok, if there's changes you depend on, please add Depends-On: to the commit message03:39
anteayamadhu_ak: can you co-ordinate vpnaas testing with dougwig please03:39
anteayathank you03:40
SamYapleso im not familiar with the gate so much, would I be able to setup a volume/ephemeral disk with the gate to have a raw drive to wrok with?03:40
anteayawhat do you mean to work with?03:40
SamYapleformat as btrfs, use with lvm for testing03:40
madhu_akso, wrt to ianw  comments, do I need to add depends on that patch?03:40
ianwmadhu_ak: yes, for two reasons -- 1 is to help reviewers understand the context, but 2 is because if you're project-config change merges first it will be broken03:41
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openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add nonvoting beaker tests to infra/puppet*
madhu_akoh okay I got you ianw will add depends on to help reviewers to review that patch03:42
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anteayaSamYaple: I don't know of many testing setups where we reformat disk03:47
anteayaSamYaple: what is it that you want to test?03:47
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clarkbSwe do set up lvm and swap out of the ephemeral drive03:49
SamYapleanteaya: its for Kolla which uses Docker. I wasnted to test against the different Docker backends03:49
clarkbyou could in throry undo that03:50
clarkbor just use the cindervg03:50
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SamYapleclarkb: yea all of that sounds great. I am just terribly unfamiliar with the gate stuff. Sorry for the n00bish questions03:51
SamYaplesounds like i can find a way to do what i need03:51
jgriffithanteaya: hmm... lemme try, then I'll ask how you figured it out :)03:51
jgriffithanteaya: Ohh, yeah... that makes sense03:52
anteayajgriffith: I looked at the log and error message03:52
jgriffithLemme give it a go03:52
anteayait is upset with the url it is being passed03:52
anteayagood luck03:52
clarkbSamYaple ^ I would just use cinder vg unless you have cinder03:52
SamYapleclarkb: awesome!03:53
SamYaplethanks for the help03:53
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jgriffithanteaya: sorry... I was away when you responded03:56
anteayajgriffith: no, no worries03:57
jgriffithanteaya: yeah, it first showed up a little over an hour ago03:57
anteayaany luck with keystone versions?03:57
jgriffithanteaya: Well... I'm kinda confused; the default in stacker is v203:57
anteayajgriffith: have you a log from a prior successful stack?03:58
jgriffithanteaya: Oh, good idea.. and yes03:58
jgriffithfor those following at home: :)03:59
jgriffithhmm... that hasn't changed04:00
anteayasame command both times, different response though04:01
jgriffithanteaya: right04:02
jgriffithand I don't see anything merging in devstack, keystone/client or openstack-client04:02
jgriffithso kinda odd04:02
anteayaa dependency release?04:03
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jgriffithanteaya: Most likely but boy are those sure hard to track down any more04:03
anteayayeah, I hear that04:03
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jgriffithThe Missing parameter OS_URL thing is what's hanging me up04:03
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jgriffithanteaya: and interestingly enough I can run that command after fails04:03
jgriffithit fails for other reasons, but not that one04:04
jgriffithhmm... actually; there we go04:04
anteayaI have seen that before where the command fails during the process and then works manually but I can't remember the cause of it04:04
anteayayou found something04:04
jgriffithWell, this last run through I can reproduce it at least04:05
jgriffiththat helps (I think) :)04:05
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anteayaI hope04:06
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anteayaextended error message too04:06
jgriffithERROR: openstack Could not determine a suitable URL for the plugin04:06
jgriffithafter setting the var04:07
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anteayahmmmm, I am wondering if the reason we are not hitting this is because we are running on images04:08
jgriffithanteaya: feel free to tell me to buzz off or that you're occupied; folks well tell you I come here to think out loud which I'm sure is annoying04:08
anteayaand will hit it next image creation04:08
anteayajgriffith: I'm jet lagged, I'm up04:08
jgriffithanteaya: that's what I'm wondering, and when they update/refresh will you start seeing it ingate04:08
jgriffithanteaya: which is why I dropped in here intiially04:08
anteayaright so I think it worth spending some time on it now04:08
anteayathank you :)04:08
jgriffithThere are a handful of us that build fresh images every time, we all failed tonight04:09
anteayawho else is seeing this? are they around?04:10
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jgriffithnobody that I ever see/know on IRC04:11
anteayaI'm at a loss04:12
anteayadon't know that person04:12
anteayaI think I am going to go back to this list:
anteayaand work through it to see if any new releases happened lately04:12
anteayaback in a bit04:12
jgriffithyeah, only thing I saw as of late was apache04:12
anteayawhat did apache do?04:12
jgriffithcool... thanks, cya04:12
jgriffithsorry... config04:13
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jgriffithhmm... lemme see here04:15
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anteayaoh, that's new04:16
jgriffithYeah, running it with a pinned version there04:16
jgriffithand it's odd, my systems pulled the dev version... which I thought used to be "ok" but we'll see04:17
jgriffithsince it's a startup issue that kinda makes sense now04:17
jgriffithwe shall see04:17
anteayaso what oslo.config is your system pulling in?04:17
* jgriffith wishes his machine stacked faster04:18
jgriffithahh... it updated it for me again; so nice of it04:18
jgriffithOh... oops, the is my fault.  I have get lib from git setting on that04:20
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anteaya the middle three lines are in your failed log and absent from your log of your successful build04:21
openstackgerritHuang Rui proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create new project ceilometer-zvm on stackforge
jgriffithI believe that may be the culprit04:21
anteayahow is 2.2.1.dev2 getting on your system? requirements is looking for 2.1.004:22
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jgriffithanteaya: that was my fault :)04:22
anteayaah ha04:22
anteayaeasy to fix then04:22
jgriffithanteaya: I have some libs from git settings on my test machine that I did the pip freeze on04:23
anteayaoh okay04:23
anteayaI'm curious so see what happens if you pull in 2.1.004:23
jgriffithOk, I've got it rolled back to 1.11.0; we'll see if this works04:24
anteayathen are you willing to try 2.1.0?04:24
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jgriffithfor shizzle04:25
* anteaya makes a cup of tea04:25
anteayajgriffith: tea?04:25
jgriffithanteaya: yes please04:25
jgriffithcoffee all day, beer in the evening, tea before bed04:26
openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/puppet-httpd: Allow httpd::vhost to take a content parameter
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jgriffithwell crud, that didn't work04:26
* anteaya puts more water in the kettle04:27
jgriffithtrying 2.1 now, which I expect to fail based on the paste04:27
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openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/puppet-httpd: Add vim swp files to gitignore
jgriffithI should clarify, my CI system ends up at 2.1, my test box I'm working on here is what I put at 1.11.004:27
anteayawhy did 1.11 fail04:28
anteayaah okay04:28
jgriffithsame thing oddly enough04:28
anteayaand 1.11 failed for you? with the same error?04:28
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jgriffithanteaya: affirm04:29
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jgriffithanteaya: I would agree with that sentiment04:30
anteayaperhaps oslo.config version is a red herring04:30
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jgriffithPerhaps, unless it sucked in some other version of something or other when it updated?04:31
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anteayaI don't know if oslo.config has dependencies04:31
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jgriffithanteaya: yeah, that was nothing short of a very very long shot04:32
anteayawild sweet orange, I hope you like it04:32
jgriffithanteaya: Ahh...very nice04:32
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anteayaoslo.config does have requirements:
anteayabut they are all specific versions04:33
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anteaya2.1.0 has argparse in there, and it isn't pinned04:34
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anteayasorry so does master04:35
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anteaya1.3 was released in 2014 so dead end04:36
jgriffithhehe... I hope so :)04:36
anteayaI'll look at keystone requirements04:37
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jgriffithOh... hmm04:39
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anteayathis is fairly new:
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anteayadstufft: you wouldn't happen to be up, would you?04:43
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openstackgerritMadhusudhan Kandadai proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create experimental job for all neutron-vpnaas tests
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jgriffithanteaya: hmm; well I'm afraid I need to take my tea and run at this point04:44
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anteayajgriffith: enjoy your evening04:44
anteayathanks for thinking of us04:44
jgriffithI'm afraid this will still be here in the morning, and I should be back in just a short bit04:45
jgriffithanteaya: of course!04:45
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anteayahopefully this is me chasing my tail and I'll realize it soon04:45
jgriffithanteaya: There's of course a good chance that I'm wrong04:45
anteayaor it is a thing and it won't break the gate04:45
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anteayajgriffith: sure, I understand, thanks for speaking up though04:45
anteayawho is to know04:45
jgriffithanteaya: thanks for looking at it with me, at least if things do get funky we'll have an head start04:46
anteayawe can rule out some things04:46
jgriffithhave a good night04:46
anteayathanks you too04:46
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openstackgerritSteven Hillman proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add create permission for puppet-n1k-vsm core group
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anteayacryptography 1.0 was released at 08:38:41 CDT05:10
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anteayafrom the cryptography-dev channel05:12
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openstackgerritAndrei V. Ostapenko proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Move from stackforge/magnetodb to openstack/magnetodb
openstackgerritAndrei V. Ostapenko proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Changes jobs description for MagnetoDB
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anteayajgriffith: join me in #openstack-keystone when you return, you may have found something05:33
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openstackgerritSteven Dake proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Kolla: Add a gate for image-centos-binary
openstackgerritSteven Dake proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Kolla: add a gate for kolla-centos-source
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openstackgerritSteven Dake proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Kolla: Add a gate for image-centos-binary
openstackgerritSteven Dake proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Kolla: add a gate for kolla-centos-source
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anteayaso if I were to offer a pin for cryptography, I have to offer it to global-requirements in the requirements repo first? and then offer it to keystone/requirements?05:47
anteayamorgan_404: ^^05:48
anteayalifeless: do you happen to be about?05:48
anteayajhesketh: ^^05:48
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lifelessanteaya: yes05:55
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morgan_404So barring the odd cffi interaction, jamielennox cryptography 0.9.3 solved the explode issue05:55
openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack/requirements: Cap cryptography to less than 1.0
morgan_404 /me moves the convo here05:56
jamielennoxso for me on a fresh install F22 i got
jamielennoxand python: import OpenSSL failed with the same issue05:56
anteayalifeless: thank you05:56
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anteayajamielennox: that failure was with cryptography 1.0, yes?05:57
jamielennoxi had to uninstall cffi and cryptography then install cryptography<1.0 and then i could at least import OpenSSL05:57
jamielennoxhowever something pip is caching built objects means i can't upgrade to 1.0 again05:57
jamielennoxanteaya: yes,05:58
morgan_404New transient dep of crypto on newer cffi?05:58
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anteayalifeless: is the patch to keystone dependent on the patch to requirements? I'm guessing yes05:58
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* morgan_404 is limited by moblie device vs real computer.05:58
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jamielennoxso 0.9.3 crypto has cffi>0.8, 1.0 has cffi>1.105:59
morgan_404Shouldnt be an issue06:00
morgan_404Since >1.1 should be used in both cases.06:00
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jamielennoxmorgan_404: somewhere pip is giving me
jamielennoxwhich would imply that there is a prebuilt FFI shared object that was build with 0.8.6 that doesn't like it when 1.1.0 tries to be installed06:01
morgan_404jamielennox: in a venv can you buold 0.9.3 abd upgrade?06:01
jamielennoxbut i've killed ~/.cache/pip and /root/.cache/pip and nothing06:01
jamielennoxneed to install it, sec06:02
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openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack/requirements: Cap cryptography to less than 1.0
jamielennoxhmm, in a virtual env i can pip install cffi cryptography and pyOpenSSL and it seems to work06:05
jamielennoxlike i can at least import OpenSSL06:05
jamielennoxso maybe it's a fedora issue?06:05
jamielennox /cc ianw06:05
anteayajamielennox: I dont' know jgriffith reported it and he said other third party cis were seeing it06:05
anteayaI don't know what os they use06:06
ianw /uncc /uncc /uncc -- this area is such a nightmare :(06:06
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jamielennoxianw: just thought you might have seen it06:07
ianwyeah, sorry no immediate answer06:07
jamielennoxi'll boot a new devstack on ubuntu, just none of my scripts work for that :(06:07
anteayajamielennox: willing to take one for the team, thank you06:08
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints
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openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove refs for refs from kosmos project
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jamielennoxanteaya: my ubuntu devstack just failed in the same way as your third party ci06:22
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anteayaand dougwig just shared a paste with me from earlier today06:24
anteayadougwig: can I share?06:24
dougwiganteaya: of course.06:24
anteayacffi build issue06:25
anteayaperhaps the new cffi lib isn't packaged as expected06:25
dougwiganteaya: in case i fall asleep, you can monitor my clean CI run here:
anteayadougwig: thank you06:25
anteayaubuntu 14.04 you said for your ci build, yes?06:26
anteayadougwig: and what os for the paste log?06:26
dougwiganteaya: that was a test on an experimental infra/nodepool job.06:26
dougwiganteaya: 2015-08-11 20:41:09.098 | Building remotely on devstack-trusty-hpcloud-b3-4272963 (devstack-trusty) in workspace /home/jenkins/workspace/gate-neutron-lbaasv2-octavia-dsvm-api06:27
anteayaso it was: devstack-trusty-hpcloud-b3-427296306:27
anteayathank you06:27
anteayaso not just a fedora issue06:27
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dougwiganteaya: you can ignore the pending shutdown warning on my jenkins. i just don't want it running zuul jobs right now. the one i queued above will finish.06:27
anteayadougwig: ah okay thanks, that was just what I was wondering about06:28
openstackgerritAbhishek Kekane proposed openstack/requirements: Nova kilo requires concurrency 1.8.2 or better
anteayaI am offline for a minute06:29
openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add options: translate for all relevant projects
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Remove refs for refs from kosmos project
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lifelesscffi < 1.0 had a terrible thing w.r.t. packaging06:34
anteayait looks like they still have whatever terrible thing they had06:35
anteayalifeless: what do you want to do with the requirements patch?06:35
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lifelesswell, devstack passed with cryptography 1.006:35
anteayadid it?06:35
lifelessactually no, its still running sorry06:36
anteayaokay thanks for also testing06:36
anteayaso you jamielennox and dougwig's ci are all running06:36
lifelessbut if you look at you can see that the only dep change in this area is cryptography itself06:36
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lifelesswe're already using the latest cffi06:36
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anteayafrom my reading of the backscroll it looked to me like we used whatever cryptography brought in with it, did we not?06:37
lifelessconstraints pins everything devstack wise06:38
anteayaand cryptography 0.9.3 brought in cffi 0.8 didn't it, jamielennox?06:38
lifelessjamielennox: is your problem unit tests or devstack ?06:38
anteayathe original problem reported by jgriffith was devstack building06:38
lifelessso the gate is fine06:38
lifelessor wrong?06:39
anteayayou tell me06:39
lifelesswe don't have unit tests constrained yet06:39
anteayaeveryone running a fresh devstack can't get it to build06:39
lifelesshow long has this issue been reported for ?06:39
lifelessanteaya: they should set USE_CONSTRAINTS=True06:39
lifelessthat will fix that06:39
anteayaif that translates to the gate being fine, that is fine with me06:39
anteayawell I don't know anyone who knows that06:39
lifelesseveryone should06:39
anteayaI didn't know that06:39
anteayayou telling me is the first I heard of it06:40
lifelessI can pip install cryptography just fine here06:40
anteayaso thank you for telling me06:40
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lifelessanteaya: we have a spec, I've published regular updates on the progress to openstack-dev mailing list06:40
anteayaI appreciate that06:40
anteayaI am spiritually unable to read all the things06:40
jamielennoxanteaya: so was released today...06:40
anteayaas well written as they may be06:40
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anteayait is twenty to three in my morning06:42
lifelessanteaya: reading the things tagged [all] is perhaps something you could achieve, there are few of them, and they tend to be important06:42
anteayaif I am being told to go to bed now, there is no problem I will do so06:42
anteayalifeless: please don't attempt to tell me how I should spend my time, that is my choice06:43
lifelessanteaya: well, there's no crisis here worth losing sleep over06:43
lifelessanteaya: of course it is06:43
anteayagood night06:43
lifelessanteaya: I didn't tell you how to spend your time. I offered advice about triaging, which you can take or leave.06:43
lifelessanteaya: no need to go prickly pear on it.06:43
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jamielennoxanteaya: ok, pretty sure i've got it06:44
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lifelessjamielennox: we'll know shortly when the requirements constraints update succeeds/fails06:44
jamielennoxlifeless: which one?06:44
lifelessjamielennox: (as in, we'll have independent confirmation)06:44
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jamielennoxso anteaya's problem isn't cryptography06:45
jamielennoxit's os-client-config==1.6.206:45
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openstackgerritEric Brown proposed openstack/requirements: Bump version of bandit to 0.13.1
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dougwiglifeless: if that devstack setting is something everything should use, why isn't it the default?06:47
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dougwiglifeless: if the answer is in the email, you can disregard.06:48
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openstackgerritJamie Lennox proposed openstack/requirements: Exclude os-client-config 1.6.2
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lifelessdougwig: see that mail indeed :)07:03
jamielennoxlifeless: so i've no idea what the cryptography issue is but ^is going to break anyone that's running open ended specs07:04
lifelessjamielennox: ?07:06
jamielennoxlifeless: yes07:06
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lifelessjamielennox: will you also push up the revert?07:08
lifelessnvm, I willl07:09
jamielennoxlifeless: i fixed it a different way, i'll let mordred decide if he wants to revert it or take the fix07:09
jamielennoxhe'll have to do a new release either way07:09
lifelessI suspect he's still sunning himself in Bali :)07:09
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jamielennoxmaybe, but he still pops up on irc and he only did that release today07:10
lifelessthe good news is CI was unaffected07:10
lifelessexcept third-party I guess07:11
lifelessso score one for system working as designed07:11
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jamielennoxso the generated-constraints update would fail before it got to gate, nice07:16
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lifelessjamielennox: yes07:18
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lifelessdougwig: I mean, if you have questions, please - lets discuss07:18
lifelessdougwig: but I thought at the time it was fairly self explanatory07:18
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GheRiverojamielennox: lifeless: do you want the revert first or the fix  for o-c-c?07:24
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lifelessanteaya: for when you get up: sorry for name calling [prickly pear]. I was angry at your claiming that I had told you what to do.07:25
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lifelessanteaya: but my response was out of line itself. So: sorry.07:25
lifelessGheRivero: I have no opinion. Right now trunk is broken though, so one or other :)07:25
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GheRiverowill go with the revert. The fix including oslo.cfg will need a deeper look07:26
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openstackgerritJamie Lennox proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add os-client-config functional testing
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jamielennoxGheRivero: revert probably makes more sense immediately07:28
jamielennoxGheRivero: do you have the ability to push a version?07:29
jamielennoxprobably worth doing a 1.6.3 immediately, maybe take 1.6.2 off pypi07:29
GheRiverojamielennox: I don't know how to do that or if I have the ability07:30
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jamielennoxlooks like just mordred,members07:31
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lifelessany infra root can07:40
lifelessusing the account that publishes releases07:40
lifeless[to take off of pypi]07:40
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rm_workso that "ERROR: openstack Missing parameter(s): " is being resolved presently? :P07:44
rm_workseems like *every time* i start spinning up a new devstack box, something horrible has just broken :P07:45
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lifelessrm_work: use USE_CONSTRAINTS=True07:45
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rm_workwhere do I put that07:45
rm_workexport it first?07:46
rm_workor does it go in a config07:46
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rm_workah in stack config07:46
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rm_worklifeless: i assume just anywhere in my localrc is fine07:49
lifelessrm_work: I presume so07:49
lifelessrm_work: wherever you put other variables like enabling services etc07:49
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/shade: Add a developer coding standards doc
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openstackgerritClint Adams proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: python3-compatible syntax
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openstackgerritBharat Kumar Kobagana (BharatK) proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Refactoring Manila GlusterFS job definitions
openstackgerritAkihiro Motoki proposed openstack-infra/project-config: WIP: Enable VPNaaS for neutronclient-dsvm-functional
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mordredjamielennox: what did I do?08:58
mordredjamielennox, lifeless: ah - we need to roll forward to jamielennox's patch and a 1.6.3?08:59
mordredoh. oy. that requires oslo.config08:59
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mordredjamielennox: ksc as it is curret is going to pull in oslo.config anyway, right?09:04
mordredso the fix is inline with "if you're in teh sticky situation, this will fix you, and we'll fix it betterer later"09:06
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jamielennoxmordred: ksc already has a dep on oslo.config so it shouldn't be an addition there, however GheRivero approved the revert so we can wait and discuss it with OSC09:10
jamielennoxmordred: either way works, the revert is probably safer in terms of "this broke the gate, push a new release quickly to fix it"09:10
jamielennoxor didn't break the gate as lifeless bolted that down, but it broke some third party CI and cost anteaya some sleep09:11
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mordredjamielennox: kk. let's release the revert as 1.6.3, then revert the revert, add your patch and look at that for 1.6.409:12
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jamielennoxmordred: ++09:13
jamielennoxhopefully we can fix some of this up for ksa09:13
mordred1.6.3 tag pushed09:13
mordredjamielennox: yah. because eek09:13
mordredGheRivero, jamielennox, lifeless: here's teh revert revert09:14
jamielennoxmordred: oh, i also proposed to put a devstack run in the os-client-config gate09:15
openstackgerritJiri Stransky proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Use sudo for pacemaker status output
jamielennoxwhich i'm guessing is going to be annoying but probably a good idea09:15
mordredjamielennox: that's a great idea ... although sadpanda for slow turnaround times :)09:16
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Exclude os-client-config 1.6.2
mordredjamielennox: "Hard set this to be what OSC expects for now."09:18
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mordredjamielennox: shouldn't the ... oh, hrm. urg.09:18
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mordredjamielennox: but auth_plugin = ksc_auth.token_endpoint.Token09:19
mordredthat patch will fix it for people using osc but still prevent people trying to use token_endpoint auth_type from not-osc from being able to do so09:20
mordredperhaps we shoudl create our own auth types - "token" == ksc_auth.token_endpoint.Token , "token_endpoint" == osc ?09:21
jamielennoxmordred: this is one of the places where dtroyer did his own thing because he wanted to control the cli flags09:21
jamielennoxhe and i have argued about it ever since09:21
mordredwell, it has broken some things, because we have two plugins with the same name but with different option names09:22
jamielennoxhe thought --os-url was more user friendly than --os-endpoint, and i don't care either way but if he used the ksc ones then they would be the same for every application09:22
openstackgerritNicko Glayre proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Customized pollscm trigger
mordredjamielennox: ++09:22
jamielennoxmordred: OSC does a whole bunch of validation as well that is on top of ksc09:22
jamielennoxin past i've come up with a number of ways we could do this, have OSC define it's own setuptools entry points for plugins and then fall back to a generic loader from ksc if it doesn't know09:23
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jamielennoxi had that all ready when OSC adopted OCC09:23
jamielennoxand all the paths changed09:23
jamielennoxmy next plan is when ksa is released that we can make OCC depend directly on it and then just offload all the validation etc to it and remove it from OSC09:25
jamielennoxand if we have to change a few parameters then at least it's still in one reusable place09:25
mordredI think that's a good plan09:25
jamielennoxbecause IMO OCC should return a plugin, not a dictionary09:26
jamielennoxthat would have solved this problem as well, because it's OSC looking directly for options09:26
mordredyou might have to get me drunk on the "return a plugin" thing09:26
mordredit does currently return an object though09:26
mordredso perhaps making sure that object implements an interface would not be bad09:27
jamielennoxmordred: if yaml was stdlib then i'd be inclined just to import it into ksa09:27
jamielennoxi think we discussed this briefly at summit09:27
mordredyah. also - why yaml isn't stdlib is bonghits to me... but that's another subject altogether09:28
yolandamordred, i answered to your questions on and
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openstackgerritValeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make gate-manila-python34 votable
jamielennoxPyYAML is a c binding as well, i get it but scary for a really low level dep09:36
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mordredyolanda: kk09:38
mordredjamielennox: so - back to the current thing09:38
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mordredjamielennox: what do we do in the short term to allow humans to use ksc token auth and osc token_endpoint auth?09:39
yolandamordred, did it sound like a suggestion to review my changes? :)09:39
mordredjamielennox: should we make the hard-coded workaround named "token" rather than "token_endpoint" ?09:39
jamielennoxso token has a meaning09:40
mordredoh. piddle09:40
jamielennoxit's for authenticating with an exisitng token -09:40
mordredisnt' that what token does?09:40
mordredI mean, token_endpoint?09:40
jamielennoxthough the more i see it the more it's a requirement in code but probably doesn't need to be user facing09:40
jamielennoxmordred: token goes via keystone, given this token get a new token with full service catalog, possible rescope etc09:41
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jamielennoxit's the service_catalog which is a problem generally for people wanting to use a token09:42
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jamielennoxwe can call it just "endpoitn"09:43
mordredk. maybe that's what we shoudl do09:43
mordredat least for now09:43
jamielennoxi've never been too concerned as i figured it would just end up as a auth_plugin=XXX string in a yaml file or accrc09:43
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jamielennoxif you don't know what it is you shouldn't use it09:44
mordredwell, yeah - problem is people are trying to use it currently09:44
mordredand the osc thing was breaking them09:44
mordredbecause oscc coudlnt' validate their options, etc09:44
jamielennoxso my bigger problem is
dstufftanteaya: I am now09:45
jamielennoxwe now have 3 projects trying to validate options09:46
jamielennoxand i see how i could be considered biased...09:46
mordredwell... so I'm about to be a big ass09:46
mordredand say that osc doing things differently is the thign that's wrong09:46
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mordredand I'm very disinclined to perpetuate taht bug09:47
mordredksa is the source of truth for auth plugins09:47
mordredksc is the source of truth for auth plugins09:47
mordredand ksa isa bout to be09:47
jamielennoxi've had this fight, but yes09:47
mordredwell, no, I'm going to unrevert that patch and I will release occ09:47
mordredand osc can either stop using it or fix itself09:48
mordredbecause this is not ok09:48
jamielennoxi haven't looked back into OCC for ksa, it's changed so much i need to figure out how that will work again09:48
mordredI'm going to go drink right now09:49
mordredbut when I'm less drun tomorrow, Ill dive in09:49
jamielennoxmordred: right - you're supposed to be on holiday, remember?09:49
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EmilienMI'm facing a Gerrit issue - I can't access to my own patch when I'm logged - - got "The page you requested was not found, or you do not have permission to view this page"09:52
EmilienMif I'm unlogged, I can see the patch09:52
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EmilienMI tried with 2 different browsers09:53
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Clintdhellmann: no, i don't10:24
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dmelladoanteaya: just checked
dmelladocould you please give me the link to the upstream bug?10:33
dmelladoI commented there, but maybe it wasn't the most proper place10:33
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make aodh dsvm functional tests voting and gating
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: neutron: enable q-qos service for gate jobs
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add 2 missing jobs to ironic-lib
openstackgerritRamakrishnan G proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add python34 job for ironic-lib
openstackgerritAdam Coldrick proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Do not import using oslo namespace
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Removed special treatment for feature/qos branch
openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Optionally check for diskimages on nodepool log generation tool
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openstackgerritPaul Michali proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable VPN DevStack plugin for neutron client
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mordredjamielennox: OH - I see a thing I missed in your patch11:21
mordredjamielennox: your patch should work with both11:21
mordredbecause it declares endpoint as a deprecated option11:21
mordredor deprecated_name11:21
mordredso that means that a human passing in either token/endpoint or token/url will work11:22
openstackgerritValeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make gate-manila-python34 votable
jamielennoxmordred: i thought that too, it failed in validation somewhere in OSC - i didn't look far into why11:23
jamielennoxpossibly because it's not registering the --os-endpoint to argparse11:24
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openstackgerritsebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid: OIDC - OpenId Connect Implementation
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: jenkins/scripts/copy_puppet_logs: copy apache logs only if exist
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Prepare tempest job for ironic-lib
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yolandaAJaeger, i got another +2 for the puppet-infra-cookiecutter project, can i get that approved?12:11
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openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Add in extra connections tests
openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Refactor sources out of triggers
openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Document the new connections in zuul
openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Configure triggers dynamically
openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Add support for 'connection' concept
openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Add base class for triggers
openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Add base class for sources
openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Add base class for reporters
openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Add support for negative requirements (take 2)
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sdaguemordred: aren't you supposed to be vacationing or something?12:33
sdaguefungi: gerrit has gone into uber slow mode again12:33
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: jenkins/scripts/copy_puppet_logs: copy apache logs only if exist
Shrewssdague: he is another year older now and forgets things more easily  :)12:38
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sdagueI'm a whole 8 days older than him, so no excuses12:39
Kiallsdague: uber slow mode is an understatement ;)12:39
sdagueyeh, typically that means that it's leaked too much memory12:39
sdagueand needs a restart12:39
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tpborionsdague: do you have some seconds to take a look at this?
sdaguetpborion: approved12:43
tpborionsdague: Thank you!12:43
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Make gate-manila-python34 votable
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EmilienMsdague: I have a permission error on - if you're admin, can you abandon please ?12:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Adds python-oneviewclient project
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Make aodh dsvm functional tests voting and gating
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Start using cgit::lb class
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add 2 missing jobs to ironic-lib
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sdagueEmilienM: I am not a gerrit admin13:10
EmilienMsdague: sorry for the noise then13:10
sdagueno prob13:10
sdagueany idea what happened with that change?13:10
EmilienMI have no clue, it's weird13:10
EmilienMit's a patch of mine13:10
EmilienMand I can't access to it anymre13:10
EmilienMif I'm logged13:10
EmilienMunlogged, I can access it13:11
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sdaguewhat project is it? maybe there is a bad acl on that project13:16
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sdagueso, there is no ACL file for this project13:18
openstackgerritNicko Glayre proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Stash publisher's credentials configuration
sdagueEmilienM: which seems very very weird13:19
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sdaguethat is probably the root issue13:19
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EmilienMsdague: I don't think it's the issue because we are pushing patches on this project for a while and I tested another new patch this morning and it works13:21
EmilienMsdague: it's just this patch13:21
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sdagueyeh, ok, these do this in a different way. I see it now13:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-httpd: Add vim swp files to gitignore
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mordredsdague: sure!13:38
mordredsdague: I mean, is this not what vacation looks like to you? :)13:39
sdaguevacation != irc for me13:39
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sdake_say any core cats mind looking at my gate review for correctness
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openstackgerritNadya Shakhat proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add DEVSTACK_GATE_POSTGRES variable into functional Ceilometer job
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openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add support to filter results by failure test_ids
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jklarehi, somebody here who can tell me where i can find a log from the periodic job from this patch
jklarei looked through but did not find anthing related13:51
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openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add options: translate for all relevant projects
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tpborionsdague: can you set the PTL and cores for us?13:54
tpborionsdague: what is needed for that? E-mail or just discussion here is fine?13:54
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sdagueyou need an infra core person for that13:55
tpborioncan I pass you the names here on the channel?13:57
tpborionor privately?13:57
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openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add support to filter results by failure test_ids
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jgriffithanteaya: Well interestingly enough, that problem went away sometime between 04:00 MDT and now14:02
jgriffithanteaya: things seem to be happy again14:02
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fungiEmilienM: you're the owner of 209296 and a core reviewer. do you have issues performing privileged actions on other changes? are you sure you're logged in? maybe you have more than one gerrit account?14:07
EmilienMfungi: I don't have any issue with anything else14:07
EmilienMonly that patch, only when i'm logged14:08
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fungisdague: yeah, gerrit seems slow to me too. seeing if i can spot the cause this time14:10
fungiEmilienM: only when you're logged _in_?14:10
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fungii'll check error logs14:10
EmilienMfungi: don't worry otherwise you can abandon the patch14:10
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EmilienMI created another one and it works now14:10
fungiEmilienM: well, i mostly want to make sure something's not broken with gerrit14:11
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EmilienMfungi: I've asked someone else to look (spredzy) and he can't see it neither14:16
EmilienMso i'm not alone14:16
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Upgrade grafana.o.o to 2.1.0
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openstackgerritZhenguo Niu proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add Mistral channel to eavesdrop
openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed openstack/requirements: Update Alembic to 0.8.0
mriedemthis should fix the blocker for neutron grenade in stable/kilo - can we get some eyes on it?
tpborionfungi: can you set some groups for our new project?14:24
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fungijklare: i'm not having much luck confirming that gate-openstack-chef-repo-chef-rake-integration is being triggered in the periodic pipeline. digging through the debug logs to see if i can figure out what's up there14:24
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fungitpborion: probably in a bit. my dance card's already pretty full14:25
tpborionfungi: let me know when :)14:25
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fungiEmilienM: okay, this is strange. the changes table says the latest patch set on change 209296 is 3, but the patch_sets table has a patch set 4 for that change with an identical revision (git sha)14:27
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pabelangerfungi: any chance to land 211205 this morning?14:29
pabelangerfungi: when you have time14:29
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fungiEmilienM: clarkb: jeblair: mordred: pleia2:
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fungipabelanger: no clue14:29
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pabelangerfungi: redirect:
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pabelangerfungi: either way, when things are slower for you14:30
fungipabelanger: that doesn't look like a redirect. not so great for search engine indexing. have a look at what i added for devstack.org14:31
fungiEmilienM: so it looks like gerrit recorded the same commit upload twice about a second apart14:32
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pabelangerfungi: checking14:33
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fungipabelanger: what i originally recommended was to have redirect to trystack.openstack.org14:33
fungi(301 permanent)14:33
openstackgerritEvgeny Antyshev proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Support CloudLinux in
fungiand try to match subpaths in the urls14:34
fungithat should cause most search engines to update to the new url fairly rapidly14:34
fungiand browser bookmarks and so on14:34
pabelangerfungi: Ah, I see. You would also like:
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fungipabelanger: yeah, you could just extend the current vhost config to rewrite any of the serveraliases to the vhost fqdn14:38
pabelangerfungi: Ya, okay. need to figure out how that works for just the serveraliases14:39
fungiand preserve the trailing part of the request14:39
fungipabelanger: well, you could match on any fqdn that'14:39
pabelangerfungi: Ya, think that is right14:39
fungis not trystack.openstack.org14:39
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add serveraliases for
clarkbfungi that is odd, seems like a gerrit bug though14:46
fungiclarkb: yep, i'm finding no error for it in the logs at all14:46
fungiEmilienM: i've deleted the duplicate commit patchset from the database and flushed gerrit's caches. can you see if it's still erroring for you?14:47
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dansmithwhat kinds of things causes the zuul backlog to grow really large?14:48
dansmiththere are only ~90 things in both queues, yet the backlog is 1000 long...14:48
EmilienMfungi: I can see it \o/14:48
fungidansmith: are you talking about the zuul job queue graph?14:48
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fungidansmith: oh, you mean the events queue14:49
dansmithfungi: no, the backlog items as reported in the json14:49
dansmithI noticed because I rechecked something a while ago and it still isn't even in the check queue, but the backlog is growing14:49
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fungidansmith: events are events not changes. things like comments in gerrit or internal events in zuul which need to be inspected to determine whether it should take some action on them14:49
dansmithI get that14:49
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fungidansmith: for example, a gate reset... all the changes after the failing change need to get requeued. each job that needs restarting has a corresponding event to trigger it. as zuul works through identifying those the events queue grows. as it works through rescheduling each the events queue falls14:50
dansmithyeah, I realize that14:51
dansmithit just flushed by the way14:51
dansmithso what causes that?14:52
fungiin that case, as i said, a gate reset14:52
fungie.g. a job failing on a dependent queue in the gate pipeline14:52
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dansmithoh, sorry, you meant that recalculating the gate post-reset takes it a lot of time and it doesn't process new events while doing that?14:52
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fungiwell, more precisely, it _adds_ events as it recalculates, and then processes those events to reschedule the jobs that need rerunning14:53
dansmithokay and that can take ~10 minutes?14:54
fungibut also, yes, any other events such as items from the gerrit event stream, internal timer events and so on end up in the same event queue14:54
fungiit can. yes14:54
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fungiit looks like added into the mix that time was a merging nova change14:54
fungiwhich then triggers zuul to look in gerrit for all open nova changes and schedule merge checks for them14:55
fungiand nova has... a lot of open changes14:55
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dansmiththose nova bastards!14:55
fungi(i'm pretty sure i don't need to tell _you_ that)14:55
fungiso yeah, you can see the merge-check pipeline spiked up to ~500 there14:55
dansmithdoes it make sense to do that for all open nova changes?14:55
dansmithI mean, maybe just ones from the last 30-60 days would be more than enough14:56
dansmithanything that hasn't been touched in >30 days is unlikely to still be mergeable14:56
fungidansmith: no idea. when we weren't doing that, reviewers were approving 3-month-old changes that had no hope of merging any longer14:56
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dansmithyeah, I know14:56
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dansmithpresumably we hit steady state at some point, where most things that are old are marked as merge conflict and zuul doesn't need to re-check them, right?14:57
fungithis is one of those technical-solution-to-a-social-problem situations which got implemented because people complained that it was too hard to pay attention to how old changes were14:57
dansmithsure, I remember14:57
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dansmithI'm just thinking about ways to limit that damage, like maybe anything older than 60 days gets an automatic -1, no merge-ability check needed14:58
dansmiththanks for the info, as always14:58
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fungithe merge conflict details aren't particularly stateful (they're just an arbitrary review comment in gerrit) so non-trivial for zuul to identify14:58
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fungiif we can get the bugs ironed out of newer gerrit, it actually has a feature to do this for us in the background14:59
dansmithwell, I figured anything with a -1 from jenkins could be excluded14:59
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fungiat which point we can stop doing it in zuul14:59
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fungiso doesn't make a lot of sense to continue to overengineer a solution we're hoping to stop needing14:59
dansmithalthough given the current speed of gerrit, having it do more things in the background seems like a bad plan15:00
dansmithbut maybe that can be done by a worker or something :)15:00
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard: Do not import using oslo namespace
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jeblairdansmith, fungi: there's also a cache issue -- that process can be very slow when zuul has a cold cache, but pretty fast when it's warm.  zuul resets its cache when it is reconfigured, which tends to happen a few times per day.15:04
jeblair(that process == searching for open changes)15:05
fungioh, right15:05
dansmithI move slower when I'm cold too15:05
jeblairyeah, also before breakfast15:05
fungiLast reconfigured: Thu Aug 13 2015 13:20:0015:05
fungiso almost certainly played into the situation as well15:05
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jeblairand i think there may be some things we can do to carry the cache across a reconfig and eventually improve this15:06
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fungiplaced jenkins02 into prepare for shutdown. it's gumming up the works15:09
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jeblairfungi: did you do something to change 209296 ? (the one with 3/4 patchsets)15:11
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openstackgerritFabien Boucher proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Fix schema validator to allow specifying a gearman port
fungijeblair: i deleted the duplicate commit row which it considered patchset 4, then flushed gerrit's caches for good measure, and after that EmilienM was able to access it again15:12
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jeblairfungi: ok thanks; i looked for that in scrollback but couldn't find it.  :)15:13
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jeblairbut there was a lot of scrollback15:13
fungiguessing there's some sort of race or other bug in gerrit which could lead to it creating a second entry in the db15:13
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fungijeblair: 14:47 "i've deleted the duplicate commit patchset from the database and flushed gerrit's caches. can you see if it's still erroring for you?"15:14
fungiand yeah, there was a lot of scrollback15:14
jeblairthanks, just didn't want to miss learning about the potential resolution process for such a bug15:15
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fungiwell, i'm thinking we've seen at least one other occurrence of this, though not sure if anyone looked in the db for those. if we can find another we might have something worth opening an upstream bug on15:16
EmilienMfungi: probably a race, I never hit that one before - will let you know if that happens again15:17
fungiEmilienM: yeah, the problem has to be internal to gerrit itself. it shouldn't normally allow two patchsets with the same git sha15:17
fungiand it didn't update the changes table for the second copy15:18
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fungiso something going on with how it added the patch set to the patch_sets table15:18
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: Remove selinux from lb class
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add serveraliases for
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pabelangerfungi: ^ that seems to work15:26
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Add q-vpn back to base services but exclude for liberty runs
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timothyb89ianw: thanks for the feedback re: dstat and stackviz! could you clarify what you mean by "an EXIT trap to kill $$" ?15:29
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sc68calHow do we add another channel to be logged and saved to ?15:32
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Add q-vpn back to base services but exclude for liberty runs
openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack-infra/glean: Create systemwide lock for glean
openstackgerritSean M. Collins proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Update chairs for the FwaaS meeting
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fungimtreinish: sc68cal: well, first that yes, and then add it to
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fungiaccessbot just handles granting us admin access to the channel so we can help troubleshoot when things go wrong. the eavesdrop manifest is what actually causes the openstack bot to join your channel and log it15:40
fungibut we require the accessbot addition first before we'll add any of our other bots to the channel15:41
sc68calah that's the repo i was looking for - system-config15:41
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AJaegerHi, I'd like a pair of eyes to review a skip-if change for zuul: - when skip-if was introduced we wanted to be very carefull and this change removes "branch" everywhere and I'd like some expert review. clarkb, fungi, jeblair, could you review this at sometime, please?15:43
openstackgerritSean M. Collins proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Correct the FwaaS meeting cadence
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mriedemlogstash appears to be down15:45
mtreinishmriedem: wfm15:46
yolandahi fungi, did you read abot zuul services by puppet? i think the best we can do is to add a parameter to manage it, by default not managing15:46
yolandafbo_ ^15:46
mriedemmtreinish: indexing behind by 8 hours15:46
mriedemlogstash job queue graph is nuts15:46
fungiyolanda: yes, i'm hoping to get jeblair, clarkb and others to weigh in on the thread15:46
mtreinishoh, I thought you meant kibana15:47
fungiyolanda: which was the whole reason for moving it to the mailing list in the first place15:47
mtreinishwhich is working for me15:47
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jeblair"This message is to inform you that the host your cloud server' resides on alerted our monitoring systems at 15:37 UTC."15:48
jeblairjust got that email15:48
fungimriedem: yeah that sawtooth pattern on the logstash job queue graph is pretty odd15:48
clarkbfungi yolanda the discussion is missing an important thing  puppet does manage and enable the service15:49
clarkbit merely does not ensure it runs at all times. that is inits job15:49
clarkbjeblair cool15:49
fungiclarkb: right, that's what i meant by "downstreams who want to use puppet like a service manager"15:49
fungi(because it's pretty terrible at that, honestly)15:50
* greghaynes tries not to comment on the quality of some current init systems which claim to do that15:50
clarkb(and I'm catching up from a day of doing errands and not really working so can respond soon)15:51
openstackgerritSean M. Collins proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add #openstack-fwaas for logging purposes
fungi"i got lucky and puppet eventually restarted my failing service" doesn't seem like a very good argument in its favor. there are well established service managers to use if you want to keep a service running all the time and restart it as soon as it fails (as opposed to the next time puppet runs)15:51
yolandafungi, for some other init services, where packages are managing that, is not needed. But for zuul it's a blocker for automation to don't have puppet spinning that up15:51
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yolandaso you either do it manually, or add another orchestration layer on top15:51
jeblairi'm not sure whether i should be writing an email or chatting here15:51
jeblairyolanda: we have added another orchestration layer on top15:51
openstackgerritSean M. Collins proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add #openstack-fwaas to the channels
jeblairso i feel like we've made that choice :)15:52
yolandainfra has15:52
yolandanot all end users15:52
AJaegerjeblair, fungi, clarkb: are we in the business of checking names of new repos? has a comment by mestery "The -1 is because the name Fusion almost certainly has copyright issues". Could you check this at one time, please?15:52
sc68caldone and done15:52
sc68calmriedem: fungi: thanks for the help15:52
jeblairyolanda: how often do you bring up new zuul servers?15:52
yolandai'd say that quite often15:52
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yolandawhenever we need to test changes15:53
mriedemsc68cal: ?15:53
jeblairyolanda: can you elaborate?15:53
sc68calmriedem: sorry- autocomplete- mean mtreinish15:53
mriedemwe are the same15:53
yolandajeblair, when we need to test changes on zuul without harming production environment15:53
yolandazuul upgrades, or changes in code15:53
sc68calno the problem is I do m<TAB> then type a message15:53
jeblairyolanda: yeah, how do you go about doing that?15:54
sc68calbecause I'm dumb and lazyh15:54
yolandait's quite normal to spin up some vms to test15:54
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yolandajeblair at the moment normally, our goal is to orchestrate with ansible15:54
jeblairyolanda: how do you launch the vm? what does it talk to?  how do you install the configuration on it?15:54
pabelangeryolanda: left a comment on ML15:54
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jeblairyolanda: none of those things is handled by puppet now15:55
jeblairyolanda: all of those things could be handled by ansible15:55
jeblairyolanda: as well as starting zuul15:55
jeblairit seems like a really good fit to me15:55
jeblairwhatever test harness you use to run something like that can be responsible for starting the service too15:55
openstackgerritEmma Barber proposed openstack-infra/puppet-hound: Configure and run apache on top of hound
jeblairand that sort of thing can be put in the ansible launch node replacement15:55
yolandajeblair i think that giving the option to end users to choose, it's not harmful, and give end users more possibilities15:56
yolandaby default not managing the service15:56
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jeblairyolanda: i think the option is dangerous.15:57
jeblairi agree that we _could_ put the option in and never use it ourselves.15:57
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jeblairi'm not sure i think it's a good idea to put in an option that you know could get people into trouble.15:57
yolandajeblair, why is that so dangerous?15:57
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yolandapabelanger, saw your comment, seems as we are on the same boat here15:58
jeblairhaving zuul, nodepool, and gerrit start running under certain conditions could cause harm.15:58
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jeblairwe regularly stop those services manually to fix problems, and having them restart on their own during that time could be very problematic (erroneous test results, lost events, extended downtime, and in the case of gerrit, publication of incorrect git trees)15:59
yolandayou mean, starting before some orchestration bits have been acomplished?15:59
fungior even starting before you've had a chance to inspect the environment into which it was installed15:59
yolandajeblair, we do it as well for manual debug. But we stop puppet before15:59
pabelangerdefaulting to true / false might require discussion.  But, if user wants puppet to manage the services, I'd say let them.16:00
jeblairyolanda: we also sometimes need to stop zuul, run puppet to apply a configuration change, then start zuul16:00
pabelangerWith the warning that issue with arise that fungi and jeblair are mentioning16:00
jeblairit is impossible to do that if you have puppet set to ensure=>running16:00
fungipabelanger: it already does manage those services. we're talking here about whether puppet should start the services itself (and restart them any time they stop)16:00
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pabelangerfungi: right.16:00
fungiit currently _enables_ the services and sets them to start on boot16:01
jeblairso i firmly believe that puppet should ensure that a service is _enabled_ so that it starts at boot, etc.  but i do not believe that it should always start a service even if it is stopped.  there are lots of legitimate reasons sysadmins may have for stopping a service, and puppet should not second guess them.16:01
jeblairso we're left at the only time this would be useful is at the initial installation of a service16:01
jeblairconsidering that in that case, there's something other than puppet running anyway (soon to be ansible), we should have it perform that step.16:01
jeblair(if we want something to do it)16:02
jeblairit has the correct context to make that decision16:02
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jeblairnow i'm going to go copy and paste all of this into my MUA, and capitalize the first letters of sentences and send it to the mailing list.16:03
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fungithe only reason i recommended moving it to the ml yesterday was that you and clarkb weren't around for the bulk of the conversation. i did my best to explain the reason we designed the modules this way, but didn't want to incorrectly represent your opinions on the matter16:04
yolandathen i'd go at least with documenting that properly in all puppet modules that are afected by this problem, and ensure that all the puppet modules we own do the same, no ensure=>running in services16:04
funginor did i want it to seem like it was solely my opinion16:04
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yolandalooking at the +2 in the reviews, this concept seem to be known internally by infra, but not for external users looking at that, so worth documenting properly to avoid mistakes16:06
openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack-infra/glean: Create systemwide lock for glean
greghaynesmordred: ohai - I did a thing that id love some input on ^16:07
greghaynesbeen hitting that on our nodes with  multiple interfaces16:07
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openstackgerritSean M. Collins proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Correct the FwaaS meeting cadence
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clarkbgreghaynes: I think I am very close to getting dib testing working on the nodepool devstack chnage. Really want that to show your image builder workers stuff is happy16:12
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add propose-puppet-modulesync-configs-update job
greghaynesclarkb: got a review?16:13
clarkbgreghaynes: dib is failing due to set up stuff though I have a mkdir -p and chown of that dir I think because /opt isn't writeable by stack it fails16:15
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clarkbgoing to push those two dirs down a level and try  again16:15
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yolandahi, can i get approved? wanted to start some work on it16:16
fungipabelanger: did you test the satisfy any on apache 2.2? just making sure that's not going to blow up (static.o.o runs on precise)16:16
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Test dib image builds with devstack too.
clarkbgreghaynes: ^ hoping that gets it fixed16:16
greghaynesclarkb: huh, the plugin looks like it makes that dir though?16:16
clarkbgreghaynes: ya exactly16:16
clarkbbut I think the mkdir -p ib dib is confused16:16
pabelangerfungi: Oh16:16
clarkbpossibly a dib bug too for trying to create it even though it exists16:16
pabelangerfungi: I used 12.0416:17
pabelangerfungi: let me test locally again16:17
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pabelangerfungi: err 14.0416:17
zaropelix: what do you think of my suggestion?
greghaynesclarkb: mkdir -p should just return true if it exists16:17
greghaynesclarkb: so, I wonder if that plugin is actually being run?16:18
clarkbgreghaynes: let me look in the devstack log16:18
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Don't run gate-neutron-vpnaas-dsvm-functional-sswan on stable/juno
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clarkbgreghaynes: hrm its possible the run I am looking at is for an older patchset16:20
clarkbgreghaynes: because devstack definitely doesn't show it running16:20
greghaynesthat would make sense ;)16:20
clarkbif current patchset works we can decide if we prefer it over the previous one but I expect it to also fix the problem16:21
openstackgerritAdam Coldrick proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Allow browsing stories by creator_id
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clarkbAJaeger: in the past we haven't really policed names16:22
clarkbbut I can think of at least one conflicting thing with that name juts off the top of my head16:22
pelixzaro: I'm rebasing it onto the change that did trigger the issue just to see if maybe it's more likely to trigger there16:23
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clarkband the isses are of trademark variety not copyright16:23
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zaropelix: you working on at all?16:25
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add openstack-infra/puppet-infra-cookiecutter project
zaropelix: i'm thinking of adding those missing tests unless you've already got something going on there.  it's so close to another +2.16:26
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AJaegerclarkb: yes, trademark.16:28
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pelixzaro: hoping to tackle it tomorrow afternoon (usually quiet in the office after 5pm ;)16:29
pabelangerfungi: works as expected16:31
fungipabelanger: thanks for confirming! +216:31
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AJaegerclarkb: So, should we police the name in this case - or stay with not policing? jeblair, fungi, what do you think about ?16:31
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clarkbAJaeger: personally I don't like the attitude of "we'll just change it later" if we fix it now then we don't have to worry about it in 6 months16:32
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fungiAJaeger: i'm with clarkb. please don't use a repo name that you think you are likely to need to change16:32
fungibecause we may be likely to not get around to changing it for you in that case16:33
fungiconsideration is a two-way street16:33
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jeblairyeah, let's not be the name police, but it seems even the author thinks it might be a problem, in which case, now would be the best time to address it16:34
dougwigcan i suggest putting info on how to vet names properly (legal, or whatnot) to the project creator's guide?16:34
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AJaegerok, gave a -1 - but I think  this is just a "best effort". If people speak up, we reject but no research from us16:35
jeblairdougwig: that's a good idea, but maybe we should ask the legal affairs committee to write that.  :)16:35
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dougwigjeblair: right, i realized i don't know the process either, so i can't submit a patch.  :)16:36
clarkbdougwig: 99% of the time just googling it and looking at the first page of results is sifficient16:36
jeblairanecdotally, i believe the process at netflix is "google it and see if it looks like it'll be a problem".16:36
jeblairclarkb: ++ :)16:36
jeblairfusion, does in fact, fail that test.16:36
clarkbthe second result for me is the fail16:36
dougwigha, effective, but i can see how we wouldn't want to codify that in writing.16:37
fungiany additional recommendations we have should be used to expand if possible16:37
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jokke_almost worth of -1 "Also like to mention I have no issues with the name being changed now" ;)16:39
zaropelix: ohh cool, i'll have my +2 ready for you :)16:39
jeblair''. At this time we have16:40
jeblairnot been able to restore access to your cloud server.16:40
jeblairrax problems with that host ongoing ^16:40
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clarkbjeblair: thanks for the update16:40
clarkbpretty sure the behavior we see in logstash queue lengths is the cluster recovering from a lost node16:40
clarkbit has to pause processing on live indexes to recover the secondary shard16:41
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clarkbso whenever thta happens queue takes off, when its done and beings working again it falls16:41
clarkbmriedem: ^16:41
clarkbno data lost its just underperforming16:41
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clarkb(I have confirmed that it is still recovering things16:42
mriedemclarkb: yeah, ok16:42
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jeblairalso, that graph is usually really boring so it's nice to have it draw some neat shapes every now and then16:45
AJaegeranother review question: Is there any preference for one or two equal signs in if [ ".." = "..." ] ...?16:45
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jeblairAJaeger: bash?16:45
AJaegerjeblair: bash16:46
AJaegerwith "if [[ ... == ]]" we have pattern matching, so I prefer a single "=" for the normal [] as well16:47
AJaegerbut wonder whether that's worth of a -116:47
jeblairapparently they are equivalent, so probably not?  i wonder if bash8 checks that16:47
jeblairi probably wouldn't -1 but would suggest following the predominant style in the repo16:48
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AJaegerbash8 does not check for it.16:49
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Update chairs for the FwaaS meeting
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Correct the FwaaS meeting cadence
* AJaeger will just fix and approve - the change has already a +2 ;)16:51
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add DEVSTACK_GATE_POSTGRES variable into functional Ceilometer job
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openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add bots to #openstack-gslb for openstack/kosmos
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fungii guess marun isn't around any more? (hasn't been in here for ~45 days, dropped out of the -dev channel a couple weeks ago)16:59
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openstackgerritK Jonathan Harker proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Remove jenkins credentials from nodepool.yaml
jeblairThis message is to inform you that your cloud server' is online. Please log into and verify's integrity.17:01
AJaegerfungi: that's what ihrachyshka commented in
jeblairfungi, clarkb: ^17:01
fungiAJaeger: yep, that's why i was asking17:02
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fungijeblair: thanks!17:02
clarkbjeblair: 02 reports we have 6 nodes in the cluster again17:02
jeblairi'm guessing we might go about verifying its integrity some other way17:02
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clarkbjeblair: ya curl -XGET 'http://localhost:9200/_cluster/health?pretty=true' on any cluster node17:02
clarkband possible /var/log/elasticsearch.log on 0717:02
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BobBallpatrickeast: Howdy - is your scoreboard down?17:03
BobBallor moved?17:03
patrickeastBobBall: uhh maybe17:03
* patrickeast checks17:03
* BobBall uses it almost daily :D17:03
patrickeastBobBall: i just kicked it and seems to be working now17:04
jeblairfungi: when you have a sec, can you look at the conversation with jhesketh and i in ?17:04
jeblairmaybe more like 5 mins than a sec17:04
patrickeastBobBall: ive noticed sometimes the flask server gets in a weird state, throws some error about a broken pipe but doesn’t actually stop17:04
BobBallit is - thanks17:04
fungijeblair: can do17:05
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Cleanup some bash comparisions
ihrachyshkafungi, he left for containter team in RH and did not plan to track openstack anymore17:05
fungiihrachyshka: okay, thanks!17:05
AJaegerihrachyshka: thanks! - sorry to hear17:05
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ihrachyshkaindeed it is :(17:06
ihrachyshkabut life goes on :)17:06
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nibalizerAJaeger: can you review before you take off for the day?17:07
nibalizerI think I'm finally getting close17:07
fungiokay, jenkins02 is cleaned up and coming back online now17:07
AJaegernibalizer: will do17:07
fungijeblair: jhesketh: oh, fun! it's the all vs any concept back for round #217:08
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AJaegernibalizer: yes, very close. You removed one entry that I don't understand. If that's correct, mention it in the commit message - or readd it again.17:11
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fungijeblair: i've been trying, unsuccessfully, to figure out from the zuul debug log why the periodic job added at is not running, but so far i can't find it at all in the log (just instances triggered by actual change events, not periodic)17:15
jeblairfungi: i'm on the hunt17:15
fungishould have run at least the past week17:15
eantyshevHello! Our CI listening under account vzstorage-ci and it didn't receive some events right now (see last 2 rechecks from, only the second was received)17:15
fungijeblair: oh, i just realized i think the trigger and the run _might_ be split across log rotation boundaries17:16
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fungithough also the periodic trigger doesn't seem to mention job names17:17
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openstackgerritWayne Warren proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add MultiJob Project Documentation.
mriedemhi infra peeps! this should unwedge some things in kilo
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mriedemguess i should have updated the title in ps2, but don't want to lose sean's +217:21
tpborionfungi: don't forget me :)17:21
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fungitpborion: yep, i'm nearly unwound from earlier17:23
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fungijeblair: 2015-08-12 06:09:58,852 DEBUG zuul.Scheduler: Adding merge complete event for build set: <BuildSet item: <QueueItem 0x7fa7ec7cec10 for <NullChange for openstack/openstack-chef-repo> in periodic> #builds: 0 merge state: PENDING>17:24
fungijeblair: that's near the end of debug.log.2.gz17:24
waynrargh jjb defaults17:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add DEVSTACK_GATE_POSTGRES variable into functional Ceilometer job
fungijeblair: but i'm having trouble following 0x7fa7ec7cec10 to see if the job ever gets added17:25
nibalizerAJaeger: ok thanks17:25
clarkbfungi: have you looked on the jenkins masters to see if it was run there?17:25
clarkbfungi: might be a quicker check17:25
fungiclarkb: not yet, though i guess i can17:25
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clarkbfwiw everything I can see about the elasticsearch cluster is that it will be ok, just needs time to recover now that 07 is back17:26
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fungiclarkb: awesome, thanks17:28
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jeblairfungi: the "run right before log rotation" aspect of this doesn't help, does it? :)17:31
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fungijeblair: no, i tried searching the next log in series for that queueitem17:34
AJaegerfungi: the job is both run from periodic and experimental queue. Would that cause a problem?17:34
* AJaeger found the job run from experimental on jenkins0217:34
fungiAJaeger: i don't _think_ so as long as the job itself is configured to know how to deal with the limited set of parameters provided in the periodic pipeline17:35
clarkbgreghaynes: I have to pop out for a few but does that look like a dib thing you recognize?17:36
AJaegerfungi: I only found experimental runs on jenkins for it17:36
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greghaynesclarkb: hah, sudo failing17:37
greghaynesclarkb: I wonder if the dev pts mount failed for some reason...17:37
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Refactoring Manila GlusterFS job definitions
openstackgerritMatthias Runge proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add a gate job for Django-1.8
jeblairfungi: 2015-08-13 06:00:01,123 DEBUG zuul.IndependentPipelineManager: No jobs for change <NullChange for openstack/openstack-chef-repo>17:38
fungijeblair: huh. i wonder why that is17:39
clarkb greghaynes oh I know17:39
clarkbgreghaynes: we disable stack users sudo perms17:39
greghaynesclarkb: wait17:39
clarkbok gonna have to think about how to fix this17:39
greghaynesclarkb: how did the chroot work17:39
clarkbgreghaynes: rootwrap?17:39
clarkbgreghaynes: except no we don't rootwrap17:39
greghaynesclarkb: oh, its not in chroot yet17:40
clarkbah ok17:40
clarkbso, easy fix is to not revoke sudo in that job17:40
clarkbI will try this17:40
greghaynesclarkb: DIB should bail earlier in that case too if thats what is going on17:40
jeblairfungi: possibly because the job has a branch specification, and perhaps branch specificiations are undefined with NullChange objects17:40
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fungijeblair: ahh, yep. i was just starting to hunt through the layout to see if there were any overrides for that job17:41
greghaynesclarkb: oh, maybe that is the first time we sudo since its pre-chroot17:41
greghaynesclarkb: hrm :(17:42
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jeblairfungi: i pasted zuul's parsing of that part of the config into the ep17:42
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clarkbgreghaynes: dib should maybe have a sudo check way early with helpful error message17:42
greghaynesclarkb: yea17:42
fungijeblair: yep, perfect. i missed you linked an etherpad above17:43
clarkbdoesn't look like d-g makes this configurable17:43
clarkbwill have to ponder the best course of action here17:43
fungii think i'm trying to bounce between too many conversations at once17:43
clarkbjeblair: fungi ^ thoughts on allowing stack user to sudo when running nodepool for dib image builds?17:43
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clarkbI don't really want to run it in a rootwrap type thing17:44
fungijklare: so anyway, the short story there is that you can't have a branch override for changes running gate-openstack-chef-repo-chef-rake-integration and also run the same job name in the periodic pipeline since that pipeline is branchless (and changeless for that matter). you probably need a second basically identical job with a separate name17:44
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AJaegerjklare: name it periodic-...17:45
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fungiclarkb: oh, nodepoold is running as stack?17:45
clarkbfungi: ya becaues all the devstack plugin things run as stack17:45
clarkbhrm that makes me think I can run it as jenkins17:45
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mattymo_fungi, ping17:45
fungimattymo_: i am not an icmp echo responder. please state your question instead17:46
mattymo_fungi, no naked pings? okay17:46
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openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add nonvoting beaker tests to infra/puppet-accessbot
mattymo_fungi, I was wondering if you could take a look at these 3 repo requests:,n,z17:46
mattymo_new fuel plugins17:47
AJaegermattymo_: see
AJaegermattymo_: did you see my comment on ?17:47
mattymo_AJaeger, I'm aware of this because I used to work at RH and had a great laugh reading that whole thread17:47
clarkbthe problem with using jenkins is it assumes you run the plugin on our test infra17:47
fungimattymo_: why me specifically? that repo has 11 core reviewers17:48
clarkbbut running on our test infra fails because we remove sudo which isn't normal for normal devstack useage17:48
clarkbso,  Ithink best thing is likely to allow d-g to not remove sudo ? or is there worry that will be abused?17:48
fungiclarkb: how vast is the list of commands being sudo'd? should we just extend the sudoers file?17:49
clarkbfungi: its pretty large and undocumented (because its all dibs inner workings)17:49
mattymo_fungi, you tend to be the most likely to respond to pings17:49
clarkbfungi: also potentially arbitrary depending on what yo uend up making the image build sdo17:49
mattymo_sorry for the bad stereotype17:49
mattymo_AJaeger, I saw your comment. I'll get it addressed if you think it's so important. We're not likely to make any branches. that doesn't tend to be an issue within fuel group17:50
fungiclarkb: on the other hand, i don't see any reason to restrict the environment nodepool runs in artificially. it has full access on the server where it runs in production, and you shouldn't expect to use a devstack machine for anything else besides what you're running on it anyway17:50
clarkbmattymo_: uh I seem to recall just reviewing a change to allow a fuel repo to make branches17:50
clarkbfungi: right, we do it for normal devstack testing to enforce use of rootwrap in the gate17:51
clarkbfungi: but the intent of this test has nothing to do with rootwrap so should be fine to open up17:51
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mattymo_clarkb, sorry that I'm mistaken. it's news to me17:52
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AJaegermattymo_: if you don't need them, don't add it - deletion of branches is manual work, let's avoid people creating them by accident17:52
mattymo_AJaeger, you mean remove the create = group fuel-plugin-detach-database-core line altogether? okay17:53
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AJaegermattymo_: if you don't need them, remove it. If it's unlikely you need them, use -release group...17:55
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fungitpborion: i've added you as the initial member of,members and you should be able to add any other members you need17:56
tpborionlet me check how to do that17:56
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tpborionfungi: do we need -ptl and -release?17:57
fungitpborion: your acl didn't add any other groups besides -core17:57
pabelangerclarkb: when you have a moment, would welcome a review of puppet / apache syntax:
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AJaegertpborion: and we don't use -ptl anymore. Read the creator's guide on whether you need -release17:58
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tpborionfungi: right, I'll take a look17:58
tpborionfungi: thank you17:59
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clarkbpabelanger: the comment isn't correct though, its rewriting any valid server alias to what you are treating as canonical18:04
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clarkbpabelanger: sorry, just pointing that out as I spent a bunch of time figuring out how that comment was true18:04
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fungifair point. the comment states the intent, rather than describing the implementation18:05
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openstackgerritEmma Barber proposed openstack-infra/puppet-hound: Configure and run apache on top of hound
fungithe net result is the same when considered in conjunction with the manifest, but wouldn't necessarily always be true in the future if the manifest changes18:05
clarkbfungi: right and I was confused at first as a result18:06
fungii can understand why18:06
clarkbwhy is the satisfy directie needed?18:07
fungiclarkb: it's not on apache 2.2 but pabelanger was initially testing on 2.418:08
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fungii don't see that it hurts anything and is i guess one less line to add when we end up migrating static.o.o to trusty down the road18:08
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fungii did at least ask him to confirm it didn't break on 2.218:08
fungiwhich he did18:08
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anteayajgriffith: thanks for the update18:09
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openstackgerritBartłomiej Piotrowski proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add fuel-plugin-detach-rabbitmq project to stackforge
openstackgerritBartłomiej Piotrowski proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add fuel-plugin-detach-database project to stackforge
openstackgerritBartłomiej Piotrowski proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add fuel-plugin-detach-keystone project to stackforge
anteayathanks dmellado, there was no bug filed, just stacktraces I liked to in the commit message18:11
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clarkbhuh why does 2.4 want it?18:13
fungiclarkb: syntax changed around access permissions in apache 2.418:14
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openstackgerritDavid Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Change functional testing to use clouds.yaml
fungiclarkb: see for an example18:15
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jerryzfungi: do you know why i am still getting this error while jsonschema has excluded 2.5.0 version?18:16
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jerryzfungi: i am running tempest on a python2.7 environment18:16
openstackgerritMarton Kiss proposed openstack-infra/puppet-askbot: Fix smtp port and host assignment in config.pp
mrmartinfungi: ^^^^^18:18
mrmartinda fix18:18
fungimrmartin: thanks18:18
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fungijerryz: no idea. you need to look at the logs of how/when jsonschema was installed to see what might be causing that version to get installed18:19
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jerryzfungi: the installed version is 2.5.118:19
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jerryzfungi: which satisfies the requirements18:20
fungijerryz: i'm missing some context. is this based on a previous discussion i had with you, or did you just ask me at random?18:21
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jerryzfungi: i just saw you approved a patch that excluded the 2.5.0 version from global-requirements 2 months ago18:21
jerryzfungi: so i thought you might know the story18:21
fungijerryz: oh, that's useful background, thanks. i approve a lot of patches and we have a lot of emergencies in the span of two months, so it's hard to recognize a traceback on sight18:22
jerryzfungi: but even without 2.5.0 installed, still applies to my environment18:23
fungijerryz: thanks, found just now. revisiting18:24
jerryzfungi: pip 1.4.1 was installed in the virtual environment by virtualenv (13.1.0), so i wonder whether there is any difference between ci-infra and my test node18:25
openstackgerritDavid Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add flavor access API
fungijerryz: yes, we run with latest releases of virtualenv18:26
jerryzfungi: but 13.1.0 is the latest, isn't it18:27
fungijerryz: virtualenv 13.1.0 should install pip 7.1.0 not pip 1.4.118:27
jerryzfungi: i was wondering the same thing18:27
fungijerryz: pip 1.4.1 must be coming from somewhere else18:27
jerryzfungi: pip list |grep virtualenv18:28
jerryzvirtualenv (13.1.0)18:28
jerryzfungi: virtualenv --version18:28
jerryzhow come?18:29
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fungijerryz: that looks likely to be the problem
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Redirect to trystack.o.o
pabelangerclarkb: thanks, commit message updated18:29
crinklegreghaynes: pleia2: lightning talk signup
fungijerryz: chances are you're installing a distro package of virtualenv as well as one from pypi18:29
fungijerryz: so pip list sees the one from pypi but the one from your distro is first in your execution path18:30
jerryzfungi: tox will use the one in the system first?18:30
fungijerryz: tox will use your normal execution path, yes18:31
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jerryzfungi: i am removing it. thanks!18:32
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fungiyou're welcome18:32
greghaynescrinkle: ooo18:33
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Skip non-doc and test-only jobs for for all branches
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jeblairfungi, clarkb, anteaya, AJaeger, sdague, dhellmann:
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jeblairlet me know what you think of that; and also any early feedback on dates (that's just my first stab based on the release calendar and my own schedule :)18:35
openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed openstack-infra/shade: Initial support for ironic enroll state
AJaegerjeblair: We have a few projects since some weeks asking for moving to openstack. Do you want to move them before that cut-off date - or let them wait until the proposed one?18:35
AJaegerjeblair: These projects currently in the queue should be mentioned in your email18:36
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jeblairAJaeger: good point.  maybe we could do a move for projects that have already requested moves in early september?18:37
AJaegerjeblair: also, should we still approve changes for stackforge when other repos of that team are already in stackforge?18:37
jeblairor we could ask them to wait?18:37
jeblairAJaeger: yes, i think we should continue to house projects next to their siblings18:37
jeblairthat's worth a mention too18:37
AJaegerjeblair: both works. But looking at magnetodb ( they want to change jobs as well18:38
AJaegerright now, we haven't allowed those. We could ask them to wait and approve the changes since they are an official project already...18:38
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jeblairAJaeger: i think we can probably approve changes like that for official projects18:39
AJaegerjeblair: ok, just gave that suggestion on the review18:40
anteayalifeless: thanks for the apology (still reading scrollback)18:41
anteayajeblair: looking18:41
clarkbjeblair: etherpad looks like a good plan to me, both dates work for me too18:41
anteayajeblair: that is a lovely green18:41
anteayait makes my eyes happy18:41
clarkbpabelanger: the comment in the vhost not the commit message18:41
jeblairanteaya: yeah, i think health institutions have found that to be the case for decades :)18:42
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clarkbpabelanger: I am waffling on whether ot not it is a -1 just because I got confused but also figured it out without too much effort18:42
anteayajeblair: ha ha ha18:42
anteayajeblair: I think October 17th is likely to be my family Christmas18:43
anteayajeblair: as I will be in Tokyo for our usual dates18:43
anteayajeblair: however most of my contribution comes from the reviewing which I can do in the dates leading up to it18:43
AJaegerjeblair: one crazy idea: Do it in two stages: Mass move ready repos at first date, at second date: mark remaining ones read-only or move them if they wake up...18:44
jeblairanteaya: this is not how you celebrate Christmas?18:45
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pabelangerclarkb: -1 away, not an issue. I can add more details into commit message18:45
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AJaegerjeblair: if we do all changes in one go, we might abandon the already queued ones as well - depending how we do the change...18:46
dhellmannjeblair: that plan looks good to me18:46
jeblairAJaeger: i'd like to try to keep it down to one big move (if we have to do a smaller move before then for people who have been waiting months, that's fine), but for the bulk of these, I think we may be able to get away with just one18:46
fungijeblair: i'm good with both dates. can't do either of the next two saturdays in november though (i'll be on my way to/from the caribbean)18:46
anteayajeblair: ha ha ha18:46
anteayafungi: yay, which island?18:47
AJaegerjeblair: that's why I said crazy ;). I'm fine doing it in one run18:47
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-askbot: Fix smtp port and host assignment in config.pp
jeblairAJaeger: cool, it's good to see crazy and then back away slowly18:47
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Make it possible to not remove stack sudo
clarkbfungi: ^ thats sort of what I have in mind, thoughts?18:48
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fungianteaya: many of them. and also a boat18:49
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fungiclarkb: lgtm though the last sentence of the commit message is confounding18:51
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anteayafungi: nice18:51
fungiclarkb: +2. i knew what it meant, even if it said it in a sort of contradictory-sounding way18:52
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openstackgerritEmma Barber proposed openstack-infra/puppet-hound: Configure and run apache on top of hound
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taron.oO( three patchsets for me to get the => alignment in order... jeez )18:54
clarkbfungi: er I should fix that, it is confusing18:54
anteayataron: how much time left for your internship?18:54
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Make it possible to not remove stack sudo
clarkbfungi: ^ that should read better18:55
anteayajeblair: I have left some questions for clarification/expansion on item 418:55
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jeblairanteaya: thx18:56
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krotscheckjhesketh: I responded to your comment on
taronanteaya: officially ends on the 25th18:56
AJaegerjeblair: I'm fine with the plan and expect I'll be fine with your update addressing the TODOs as well...18:57
anteayataron: so less than 2 weeks18:57
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anteayataron: have you written up a status report yet both of your progress on hound as well as feedback for us on your experience so we can take that into consideration should we want to take another intern again?18:58
taronanteaya: yep. not under any illusions I'll be getting the last payment at this point, but I'm going to do what I can to finish it anyway18:58
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anteayataron: :(18:58
clarkbpabelanger: commented18:58
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taronanteaya: I haven't, but I can do that as well18:58
anteayataron: can you put some comments in an etherpad?18:58
taronof course18:58
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anteayataron: if you could, I was purposely hands off this round as I couldn't dedicate the time I wanted to it18:59
openstackgerritMadhusudhan Kandadai proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create experimental job for all neutron-vpnaas tests
anteayataron: but I am interested in hearing your thoughts18:59
anteayataron: including what obstacles we might have presented to you doing what needed to be done to recieve the full stipend18:59
anteayataron: as you being able to eat and pay bills while you spend time with us is a big part of the program, for me anyway19:00
clarkbelasticsearch has 4 shards left to recover19:00
clarkbso should be green soon19:00
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taronanteaya: I fault myself mostly for procrastinating/generally doing nothing for most of the summer and not recognizing when I should ask for a bit of direction, a more hands on approach might've helped but at the same time, I had a spec, I knew what I should've been doing19:02
anteayawell mentoring comes in all forms19:02
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anteayaand I think that part of it is working with the person to figure out how they work best19:02
anteayanot laying any blame because I couldn't mentor you and you are here, so yay19:03
anteayaand thanks to fungi and pleia2 and others who did step up to help19:03
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anteayabut what works for someone doesn't work for someone else19:03
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anteayaand I'm sorry that this didn't work for you in a way that you recieve the full stipend19:04
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anteayaso yes, please share your candid thoughts however you can19:04
anteayaso we can take your perspective into account19:04
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anteayaas we discuss this experience as a team19:04
anteayaand plan accordingly should there be a next time19:05
* taron nods, needs to hop on the bus shortly but will do so today19:05
anteayataron: thanks19:05
anteayahappy bus ride19:05
fungitaron: anteaya: absolutely. i'm sure i didn't reach out as often as i could have since i tend to assume people don't need help unless they ask for it, but i welcome any constructive criticism19:05
anteayafungi: thanks, that's what I thought, thank you19:05
taronI do plan on sticking around the community and keeping up helping out where I can in any case, regardless of my opinion of my productivity this summer19:06
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fungithat was going to be my other question... what can we do to keep you around! we welcome contributions in a variety of forms and quantities19:06
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sc68caltaron: just tuning in, but it does sound like you learned something valuable - it might not have been how things could have gone, but it sounds like you gained new insights19:07
funginot everybody can afford to pitch in 10, 20, 80 hours a week. some may only find one or two19:07
sc68calso it's not all a loss19:07
taronsc68cal: yup, that's the perspective I"m trying to take on it19:08
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openstackgerritSomay Jain proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Boolean parameters and more options in Parameterized Trigger Plugin
taronwhat happened happened, I'll get what I can done now, I'm not hurting for money regardless of whether I get the last payment, and learned a bunch about myself on the way19:11
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mmmporkjust chiming in, but in my experience with college interns, having a proactive mentor and some kind of structured check-in type of thing is usually pretty effective19:11
mmmporkby structured check-in it could just be an email once a week of "what i did last week and what i hope to do this week and any other issues"19:12
mmmporkbut generally having some kind of back and forth beyond email is more effective19:12
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pabelangerclarkb: I can simple remove the comment. I only added it since I was initially confused about the rewritecond syntax19:13
pabelangerOr just use your comment :) Rewrite any valid serveralias to the srvname19:13
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taronmmmpork: went ahead and created the etherpad since I got distracted and missed the bus if you wanna put your thoughts in
mmmporkthanks! yeah i don't know a lot about this particular context but i'm happy to share my thoughts :)19:15
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taronheh, it's easier to find things in an etherpad than in scrollback, anyway19:16
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Redirect to trystack.o.o
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: Update review policy for our libraries
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/requirements: Raise the cap on kombu to 3.0.15 since that's when kombu supports py34
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madhu_akpc_m, thanks for your comments19:24
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Rewrite to trystack.o.o
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clarkbelasticsearch cluster is green now, but it is relocating shards which will have some impact on performance until complete19:30
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clarkbone thing I notice in the nodepool logs is iso8601 is logging at a debug level which is mostly useless noise19:32
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clarkbmordred: ^ I believe that is coming from shade? I thought most projects already killed its logging but we apparently missed it somewhere19:33
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openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/puppet-packagekit: Add Gemfile and puppet 4 checks
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openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/puppet-pgsql_backup: Add .gitignore
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anteayajust picked up my latest silk from thailand, the reports are that the women are exhausted doing the weaving19:41
anteayabut the younger women haven't been interested in picking up the making silk habit from the older women, so here's hoping they change their mind19:42
anteayabecause yay sustainable manufacturing19:42
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hodoshi does any1 know how to workaround this:
openstackLaunchpad bug 1484448 in devstack "ERROR: openstack Missing parameter(s): Set a service URL, with --os-url, OS_URL or auth.url" [Undecided,New]19:43
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anteayayes the problem is with openstackclient 1.6.219:46
anteayaif you update to 1.6.3 which was released today you should be good19:46
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Shrewsanteaya: os-client-config, not osc  :)19:47
anteayaShrews: thank you19:47
anteayahodos: os-client-config19:47
anteayatoo many acronyms19:47
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openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/puppet-phabricator: Make mysql root password required
openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/puppet-phabricator: Add Gemfile and puppet 4 checks
hodosanteaya:thank you19:48
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openstackgerritSean M. Collins proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Update FwaaS meeting cadence
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lifelessclarkb: so, Nakato's patch worked, what next ?19:58
clarkblifeless: now that we have working test we can show people we need to either update the existing jobs everywhere or make a case for expanding the testing interface19:59
clarkbeither way should be fine long term and now we have something concrete to look at20:00
lifelessclarkb: so my understanding of the plan - and yes, I know you weren't there -20:00
lifelessclarkb: was that we'd let folk opt in20:00
clarkblifeless: yup I think we can do that with either of the two options listed above.20:01
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clarkbif we keep the existing jobs they would opt in by updating their tox.ini's targets to use constraints. If we make new targets they opt in by making new targets in the tox.inis20:01
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lifelessso the other concern we had was that developers at home also opt in20:02
clarkbthe only issue with making new targets is we do have a defined testing interface that we expect projects to standardize on20:02
lifelesswhich to my mind rules out changing tox's existing targets20:02
clarkband for the most part they do so any changes to that should be recognized20:02
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clarkblifeless: they can land an empty constraints.txt file to the repo at the same time20:03
lifelessso - it sounds to me like we need a patch to governance/reference/project-testing-interface20:03
clarkbwhich gets overwritten in the gate20:03
clarkbbut localtesting is unaffected20:03
lifelessclarkb: I would be worried about that causing significant confusion20:03
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lifelessclarkb: either by it getting edited by projects, or by folk trying to figure out whats going on.20:04
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clarkbwe could put a comment in it20:04
lifelessso I'd say we'd need to force that to be just a comment20:04
clarkbexplaining how constraints work and why its empty in repo20:04
lifelessdone by the requirements sync job20:04
clarkbbut eithre way (new targets/update old targets) should owrk fine20:04
lifelessI'm leaning towards new targets20:04
clarkbjust different sets of work go along with each and I guess different sets of confusion20:04
lifelessfungi: ^ seeking 3rd opinion20:05
fungiitym "enforced by the requirements check job"20:05
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fungithe requirement sync job is what proposes updates, so wouldn't itself prevent projects from modifying the file20:05
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fungilifeless: clarkb: link to the job definition you're discussing?20:06
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clarkbprobably best to look at the nova tox.ini change20:06
clarkblet me find it20:06
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clarkbfungi: basically do we do the constraints install line across the board in existing tox targets or do we make a second set of tox targets that doe sthat20:07
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fungior some other third option20:07
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clarkb(yes or some third option as long as projects can opt in as that appears to be an agreed upon requirement previously)20:08
fungiwhat gets the upper-constraints.txt file into place?20:08
clarkbfungi: a zuul-cloner command that we worked out during oscon20:08
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Bump oslo.utils to 2.0.0
clarkbits applied to your bindep test job right now for testing against 21139220:09
fungiis there a slave script proposed somewhere with that bit of the logic?20:09
fungiaha, thanks20:09
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fungiahh, the zuul-git-prep-upper-constraints macro20:09
fungiokay, i recall reviewing that with you at oscon now20:10
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clarkbso question now is "we have constraints in place and that all works, how do we get projects t oconsume sanely while allowing opt in and not breaking local devs?"20:11
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fungican pip be made to treat a nonexistent constraints file as an empty one?20:11
fungiif so, there's an easy enough answer20:12
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fungialternately, can tox have a conditional to only add the constraints option of a specific file exists?20:12
clarkbinstall commands could be ninjad to run in a subshell and do file existence tests maybe20:13
clarkbbut thats hacky20:13
clarkband I would expect pip to error if you give it an invalid file path20:13
fungitesting now20:14
fungiCould not open requirements file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'foo'20:15
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openstackgerritWayne Warren proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add MultiJob Project Documentation.
clarkblifeless: anyways I am happy to help either way, I think they will both be fine but getting input from fungi and others now is helpful too20:16
clarkbjeblair may have throughts on the testing interface20:16
fungireading up on the tox.ini possibilities20:17
fungiit does have some conditional logic, but mostly around env name20:17
clarkbya I think latest tox makes it easy to use different install commands based on an env name prefix20:18
fungiright, doesn't seem to have support for other test conditions like file existence20:19
fungiso i'm not seeing other options for the moment that don't involve hacky wrapper scripts or extra shell evaluation in the tox.ini20:20
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fungi(arguably those are both slightly different implementations of a common hacky solution)20:20
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fungiso... one option is for the job runner to check for the existence of constraints support in the tox.ini and then decide to run an alternate constraints-py27 or something like that20:21
fungidevs could choose to run either py27 or constraints-py2720:21
clarkbyup that is what lifeless would like aiui20:22
fungiand gate-{name}-py27 would run constraints-py27 if it's available, py27 otherwise20:22
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clarkbthe second option I proposed was adding an empty upper constraints to the repo that is overwritten when you need real constraints (eg in the gate) and just always attempt to apply the constraints empty or not20:22
fungisimilar to the fallback logic i've for for bindep20:22
fungii agree with lifeless that the empty constraints file is likely to be confusing20:23
fungimarginally less so if it has comments in it explaining why it's empty and should always remain so, but that still seems marginally silly20:23
fungidemerits to me for using marginally twice there20:24
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anteayamarginal demerits20:26
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fungianyway, i think the main reason i'm in favor of the default/fallback logic in the job is that it makes the addition entirely self-testing without needing to implement new jobs as well20:26
fungiif you don't have constraints-py27 support in your tox.ini (determined via `tox -l` i guess) then you'll get the normal job run. if you propose a change to add that to your tox.ini, it will get run instead and you can confirm it's working before it merges so that you don't get hamstrung20:27
clarkbfungi: I think we do still need to codify that in the testing interface though20:28
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clarkbso that there isn't confusion around "how do I run python tests"20:28
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fungiand that puts the implementation timeline 100% in the hands of individual projects, without creating lots of patches for infra to review20:28
fungiclarkb: that i completely agree with20:28
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pabelangerfungi: clarkb: think this addresses comments:
fungiclarkb: lifeless: should be a broader conversation around the pti, but i think it's the way to go20:29
anteayamorning jhesketh20:29
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pabelangercould also use the help of an infra-core with DIBs and selinux:
pabelangerneed help validating that20:31
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clarkbpabelanger: fungi for 211703 what do the yum built and centos cloud image build dib images do? they turn on selinux by default?20:32
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clarkbpabelanger: fungi: or is it off? I think either that code is removed because it is off or that code stays with an updated comment if selinux is on20:33
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pabelangerclarkb: checking nodepool logs to see20:35
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greghaynesclarkb: that is at build time in chroot though, so I think it just matters what the host does20:36
greghaynesthe build host20:36
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Rewrite to trystack.o.o
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jeblairclarkb, fungi: yeah, it sounds like a proposed change to the pti is the best way to evaluate this20:38
fungiclarkb: [fungi@centos-6-rax-iad-4308157 ~]$ grep ^SELINUX= /etc/sysconfig/selinux20:38
clarkbfungi: cool20:40
clarkbgreghaynes: build host is ubuntu so definitely disabled by default there20:40
fungiclarkb: no, wait, scratch that. i forgot centos-6 is snapshot-based on rax still20:41
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fungii need to get a dib-built one booted in hpcloud to properly confirm20:41
clarkbfungi: ah ok will hold off on my review then20:41
greghaynesclarkb: hrm, maybe someone who understands this more than I should chime in, but I figure thats how it works20:41
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pabelangerYa, not sure where / who is controlling selinux on jenkins slaves from puppet.  Guess we could add something to enable/disable20:44
fungipabelanger: afaik we rely on whatever's set in the base image20:44
fungipabelanger: but since with dib we're creating the base image...20:45
jeblairsometime recently rax switched their base images to selinux disabled by default20:45
jeblairwhich is evil20:45
jeblairwe ended up with 1/3 of the git.o.o farm selinux disabled20:45
pabelangerfungi: Ya. I something tells me adding a check into puppet would help ensure it is controlled as we expect it to be20:45
fungii guess in the centos-6 case anyway we're relying on whatever initial value is in the seed image used by the centos dib element20:45
fungipabelanger: well, i think as much as possible we want to test whatever people are likely to get on a platform by default, to minimize surprises20:46
pabelangerfungi: Ya, I can see that20:46
fungiokay, i've got a centos-6 dib-based node booting in hpcloud-b5 now20:46
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lifelessfungi: clarkb: Nakato: ok, so I think the next step is a patch to the governance repo proposing the new -constraints target.20:48
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fungiclarkb: pabelanger: greghaynes: [fungi@host-10-0-4-238 ~]$ grep ^SELINUX= /etc/sysconfig/selinux20:51
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fungipabelanger: so for dib, we've got it always enabled i guess, which means we should always work around it, not just conditionally work around it20:51
pabelangerclarkb: fungi: okay, just updated my hosts file to use for  Rewrite to trystack.o.o worked as expected. When you have time, do you mind updating dns for
greghaynesdo we want to disable it in dib?20:52
pabelangerfungi: ugh, okay.20:52
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greghaynesI think some people like to be able to test against that, but sounds like that is not the current state of things20:52
pabelangergreghaynes: that is a good question.  What does -infra think of selinux?20:52
fungigreghaynes: i think we want it to be whatever people get by default when they install centos 6. if that's enforcing, then i think that's what we need20:52
greghaynesI belive it is enforcing by default20:53
fungiright now we've got a mishmash of enforcing in hpcloud and disabled in rackspace anyway20:53
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fungihpcloud seems to use distro-provided base images rather than rolling their own like rackspace does20:53
fungiso i'd tend to say what we get on hpcloud is probably more typical20:54
fungiand dib seems to have it enforcing by default too (i think because the centos element uses a seed image which probably has it enforcing)20:54
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greghaynesYep, it does20:54
greghaynesIn tripleo days it was by default unenforcing for a long time but we got it back to enforcing, I dont remember if that happened in DIB or tripleo elements though20:55
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fungianyway the original point of my comment which spawned pabelanger's change is that in our dib elements there's no need to have conditional logic based on what may or may not be enabled in a given cloud provider's base images, because we're providing a consistent image (the entire point of using dib)20:57
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pabelangerokay, let try see why fedora22 is failing to run chron then.  It was bombing about not finding system_u:object_r:named_conf_t:s020:58
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* fungi hopes cron is not broken on f22 ;)20:59
pabelangerfat fingers20:59
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greghaynesfungi: for selinux it is exposing what is enabled on the build host I *think* though20:59
greghaynesfungi: actually, that check might not even do the right thing ;)21:00
fungigreghaynes: very interesting given that the build host is ubuntu with selinux disabled and ends up creating a centos 6 image with selinux enabled21:00
fungicopying behaviors of the host system is a little dubious for a cross-build system21:01
greghaynescan you even chcon in a chroot that has selinux enabled on a host that does not?21:01
fungigreghaynes: likely not21:01
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greghaynesI guess what im trying to articulate ;) since that is what the check there would try and do21:01
fungigreghaynes: though maybe if it's stored in filesystem attributes21:02
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fungigreghaynes: looks like it should work fine? "SELinux stores file security labels in xattrs"21:03
greghaynesah ok21:03
pabelangerokay, rebuilding fedora22 dib. Going to step out for some food.  Thanks for everybodies help21:04
* fungi gets back to completing six impossible things before his breakfast reservation at milliways21:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Raise the cap on kombu to 3.0.15 since that's when kombu supports py34
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Don't run gate-neutron-vpnaas-dsvm-functional-sswan on stable/juno
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openstackgerritsebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid: OIDC - OpenId Connect Implementation
waynrzaro: here's a pretty simple doc update to JJB
waynrwho else has workflow approval for JJB?21:16
zarowaynr: pelix21:17
fungiwaynr: lgtm21:17
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zarowaynr: ohh yeah and all the other infra cores21:21
zarolike fungi21:21
fungi(who already +2'd it)21:21
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anteayawe still have a bug bot chorus in -meeting :(21:22
anteayawe discussed banning uvirtbot21:23
anteayacan we do that?21:23
anteayathank you21:23
fungidone to all the meeting channels and the dev channel21:23
anteayathank you21:24
fungilooks like it wasn't in -3 or -4 anyway21:24
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openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Restore neutron running tests when its own tests change
openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Restore neutron running tests when its own tests change
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anteayadougwig: can you and ihar please co-ordinate here21:30
anteayathis is exactly what we have been discussing for the past 2 days21:30
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dougwiganteaya: right, this should not have been submitted while things were broken, and it's not correct to boot. i'll have to talk to him tomorrow, and he's offline already.21:31
anteayagot it and thank you21:31
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fungidougwig: can you expand on what's not correct? is it that tempest tests are in-tree in neutron in one of the directories skipped by that filter set?21:32
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dougwigfungi: line 614 in the diff means that any change that modifies anything under neutron/tests does not run the api/fullstack/functional tests, even though those files definitely affect the output of those jobs.21:33
dougwig(and only under there, like the gate_hook change i just made for the api job, which did not itself run the api job.)  erg.21:34
fungidougwig: got it. i wonder if it was assumed that tree only included unit tests21:34
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fungidougwig: because i believe the intent of that part of the filter was to not run devstack-based tests when only unit tests were altered21:35
fungidougwig: anyway, i'm in favor of reverting whatever's necessary there. i was not particularly a fan of the skip-if stuff to begin with because i was afraid it was going to cause necessary jobs to not be run under certain circumstances, and running a few extra unnecessary jobs on simple changes never seemed like a major waste21:36
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dougwigfungi: it's nice when it's quick, but you're right, the added complexity leads to more errors. as proven here.21:37
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fungisafer to run jobs you don't need than to miss those you do21:38
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anteayajenkins is unhappy21:40
anteayais there a spare : in there somewhere?21:40
fungiwhich jenkins?21:40
anteayaon dougwig's patch21:41
anteayasorry sorry21:41
fungioh, hrm21:41
dougwigoh, a newline got inserted.21:41
fungiaha, yeppers21:41
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openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Restore neutron running tests when its own tests change
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anteayadougwig: what is assaf talking about?21:42
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fungianteaya: he's providing an example of why that change is needed21:43
anteayathank you21:43
anteayasorry in a meeting as well21:43
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clarkbfungi: pabelanger for the trystack DNS update that can't be a CNAME right? so I guess just an updated A record21:46
dougwigfungi, anteaya: thank you, sorry for yet another faux pas.21:47
fungiclarkb: both. address record for @ and then cname for www.@21:47
anteayadougwig: well thanks for being up on it21:47
anteayadougwig: and yes it only supports the need to have some organization in neutron around infra interactions21:48
anteayaso that clear plans are executed21:48
fungipabelanger: thinking about it, if is also working in the wild, we may want it added to the serveraliases list21:48
anteayaand we know who our point person is for neutron21:48
fungii haven't tested21:48
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Update FwaaS meeting cadence
fungianteaya: i'm not 100% convinced it would have helped in this case. i think part of the problem is that the mechanism of filtering out jobs based on which files are being changed is a bit opaque and hard to reason about until you see the end result on a change which you forgot needed to be covered and now isn't21:49
fungiespecially as job definition/configuration moves more and more into the projects being tested21:50
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anteayafungi: fair enough21:50
fungidoubtful this issue would have been spotted in review21:51
anteayathe larger picture is that neutron vpnaas has been broken for 3 days or more21:51
anteayaand that dougwig and I and mtreinish and markmcclain have been reviewing the situation and trying to agree to a way forward21:51
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anteayaoffering a patch of this nature during this time when vpnaas testing is the priority is just ill timed21:52
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anteayathough the point about foresight given the current info is well taken21:52
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Restore neutron running tests when its own tests change
fungisure, i get that timing was likely not great and coordination might have helped avoid making an existing bad situation worse21:56
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anteayathanks that was my only point21:57
anteayasince we currently are stuck in the mud and dont' have clear agreement on how to get out21:57
anteayastill working on it though21:57
clarkbfungi: pabelanger one more dns question. trystack.o.o is actually static.o.o d we want to optimize the number of requests needed there and CNAME ot static or use trystack.o.o?21:57
clarkbfor the www addr21:57
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jlvillalWould these neutron vpnaas failures also affect oslo.messaging?  In particular the check job 'gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-oslo.messaging' ?21:58
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anteayajlvillal: I dont' know21:59
anteayadougwig: ^^21:59
dougwigjlvillal: job link?21:59
jlvillalFor example:,n,z21:59
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dougwigjvrbanac: that doesn't look related.22:00
jlvillaldougwig, Okay. Thanks. I saw neutron mentioned, so I was hopeful :)22:01
dougwigjlvillal: you might've reduced me to real tears.  :)22:02
jeblairfungi, anteaya: it turns out that eventbrite "only" saw a 1.07% drop in conversions on free events after instituting the required-account policy22:02
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anteayajeblair: so they have convinced themselves to keep it22:03
jeblairfungi, anteaya: so, er, "we are the 1%"?22:03
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anteayajeblair: congratulations for remaining in the 1%22:03
anteayaha ha ha22:03
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jeblairi've never been a 1%er before!22:03
jeblairit's, frankly, not at all what i was expecting.22:03
anteayaha ha ha22:03
anteayabut you have a most excellent hat for it22:04
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jeblairi don't think 1%ers wear hats, i think they have people to do that for them.22:05
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anteayanoone looks as good in your hat though22:05
jlvillaldougwig, :)22:06
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anteayaI think I will eat some food and perhaps go for a walk22:07
anteayasomeone willing to hold my cat?22:07
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jeblairanteaya: i would not give it to mordred.  it may get wet.22:07
anteayaand perhaps shaved for a worst cat photo22:07
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* anteaya protects her cat from mordred22:08
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clarkbwhats the difference between neutron lbaas and octavia?22:22
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clarkbI probably don't want to know and should just +2 this change22:22
clarkbactually hrm, what do people think about trimming the PROJECTs list in d-g22:23
rm_workclarkb: Neutron-LBaaS is the end-user facing API for LBaaS22:23
clarkbthen getting project specific tests to add to that list instead of d-g doing a blanket clone of all the things22:23
rm_workclarkb: Octavia is an OpenSource VM based Appliance that is one possible backend for Neutron-LBaaS22:23
clarkbrm_work: so neutron lbaas is not actually  load balancer service and is purely an api?22:23
dougwigclarkb: i suggested using zuul-cloner in that review, and not expanding PROJECTS.22:23
clarkbthat seems poorly named22:24
rm_workdon't think about it too hard22:24
dougwigclarkb: octavia is a backend for neutron-lbaas (e.g. haproxy, f5, a10, octavia, radware, ...)22:24
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clarkbdougwig: ya, we are finding there can be a relatively high cost to setting up those git repos even though we cache them22:24
clarkbdougwig: so reducing the amount we do it everywhere would be good22:24
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clarkbbut this is sort of standard operating procedure today so happy to +2 then we can figure out a better way to do it independently22:25
sdakeany chance an infra core could review two gate patches already reviewed and +2'ed by Andreas?
dougwigclarkb: i figured that if it had a devstack plugin/, it shouldn't be in any hard-coded lists. but i don't know if we've gone that far yet.22:25
clarkbdougwig: the problem with the plugins is we tell devstack not to clone anything intentionally to ensure that your tests are testing what you want to test22:26
clarkbdougwig: so the plugin shouldn't clone things22:26
clarkbd-g should be doing it, we just don't need it to set up octavia for every test run22:26
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dougwigclarkb: can PROJECTS be expanded in the job definition?22:26
clarkbdougwig: yes22:27
clarkbdougwig: I think thats what we should be doing but will take time22:27
dougwigclarkb: that might be better spot for non-global projects, then.22:27
dougwigbe a better, i mean.22:27
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clarkbsdague has written a nice ansible in d-g cleanup at and mordred has another atop that that make things simpler too22:33
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clarkbtl;dr reviewing those are worthwhile for code hygeine22:33
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clarkb is another good one22:35
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openstackgerritTim Buckley proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Install and run StackViz during devstack-gate host cleanup.
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jeblairanteaya, fungi: updated
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clarkbis anyone here familiar with killing the iso8601 debug logs? hoping I can get a head start in fixing that for nodepoo23:14
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greghaynesgood ol nodepoo23:16
clarkbI expected someone to comment on that :)23:17
clarkbits organic grass fed nodepoo too23:17
greghaynesbest kind23:17
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jeblairclarkb: let me know what you think of my comment in
anteayathe flowers that grow from our nodepoo23:23
clarkbdougwig: for the advanced services and mysql driver situation we have and that are all related, I know you are looking into that stuff do you have enough info now to determine which of those we want now (if any) and which we need long term?23:23
StevenKclarkb: Can I get you to log into translate-dev and pastebin /var/log/register-zanata-projects.log if it in fact contains anything ?23:23
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clarkbjeblair: good point particularly for projects using ansible for other purposes23:24
openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: jenkins/scripts/copy_puppet_logs: fix typo
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jeblairclarkb: also, asked a question in which you may know the answer to23:24
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clarkbjeblair: ah yup I asked mordred that too and he says that ansibles -U flag runs sudo with -H23:25
jeblairi'm going to paste that into the change :)23:25
clarkbStevenK: yes doing now23:26
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clarkbStevenK: its empty23:26
openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/puppet-project_config: Add Gemfile and puppet 4 checks
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StevenKclarkb: Hum. Do those logs go anywhere, or do they stay put on the machine itself?23:28
mordredclarkb, jeblair: yes23:28
clarkbStevenK: they stay on the machine23:28
openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/puppet-puppet: Fix Gemfile
openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: puppet: enable copy_logs publisher for beaker-rspec-dsvm jobs
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EmilienMcrinkle: I might want your eye on ^23:29
StevenKclarkb: /home/wildfly/projects.yaml exists, right?23:29
clarkbStevenK: yes23:29
anteayajeblair: a further question/suggestion on point 4 of the etherpad23:29"Registering projects in Zanata")23:30
clarkbmaybe it hasn't run yet?23:30
clarkbit should fire on every change to that file though iirc23:31
jeblairanteaya: i think we're planning on generating the patches ourselves, probably automatically, so we should have a fairly quick turnaround time.  i'm okay with adding a freeze period in there, though i'm not certain it needs to be 7 days.23:31
anteayafair enough23:31
jeblairalso, possibly 'patch' rather than 'patches'23:31
StevenKIt landed a while back, and I think projects.yaml has changed since then23:31
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clarkbStevenK: ya it has23:32
anteayayou are picturing one giant patch?23:32
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StevenKclarkb: It might be a logging bug in register-zanata-projects, I will have a play around when I get to the office.23:32
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clarkbStevenK: ok, let me know if I can do any other debugging (can run manually on host too or trigger puppet)23:32
anteayabut some time period beyond which respondants have missed the train23:32
jeblairanteaya: maybe i can put something like 'we will freeze the list as well as new project creation several days before'23:32
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anteayasure I can live with that23:32
jeblairand we can decide on the exact freeze date later23:33
StevenKclarkb: Run it manually, it should do nothing, but at least log a few things23:33
jeblairdepending on how complex the process actually looks23:33
anteayaseveral days for me gives us a minimum of 3 days23:33
anteayaand more if required23:33
EmilienMI have two project-config review requests for puppet modules: and - thanks folks!23:35
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clarkbits almost 5pm already where did the day go23:44
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clarkbanteaya: prophetstor CI claims to have fixed their issues, we ask them to get the projects they comment on to ok them being reenabled?23:45
clarkbthingee: ^ I think thats you23:45
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anteayaclarkb: yes until thingee says re-enable prophetstor CI I'm sitting on my hands23:50
clarkbanteaya: danke23:50
anteayathis person rick___ has been in -cinder many days23:50
anteayanever when thingee is available23:50
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anteayaand never in appreciation of what he is being told or what is going on23:50
anteayaso thanks for asking23:50
anteayaand I wish I had a better answer23:50
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anteayawith ponies and rainbows23:51
openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/puppet-redis: Fix template variables
openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/puppet-redis: Add Gemfile and puppet 4 checks
thingeeanteaya, clarkb lol, Rick from prophetstor emailed the openstack list to get my attention23:53
anteayathingee: yes23:53
anteayaI saw that in channel23:53
anteayahe kept showing up after everyone was offline23:53
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anteayathingee: what do you want us to do here23:54
anteayaif anything23:54
thingeeanteaya: wait, I can't even find their email in the openstack mailing list.23:54
thingeeanteaya: even though rick said he sent it there23:55
clarkbthingee: they sent to the infra list23:55
clarkbthats where I saw it at least23:55
anteayayeah infra list23:56
thingeeugh ok23:56
openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/puppet-refstack: Add Gemfile and puppet 4 checks
anteayaand can I just say asselin is wonderful at replying to ci emails23:57
anteayathank you asselin:
asselinanteaya, thanks. I don't subscribe to infra list23:58
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anteayaso you can follow along23:59

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