Monday, 2015-07-13

anteayagerrit gui is glacial for me00:01
anteayacacti didn't show me anything that would account for it00:02
anteayaby the by we don't have much space left on that server:
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anteayaunless running out of space slows down the gui00:03
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: puppet: add stable/kilo patches to gerritbot config
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jheskethlifeless: ping00:30
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openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Document our supported distributions
openstackgerritYuriy Taraday proposed openstack-infra/git-review: Use PyOpenSSL in tests to support SNI in Python 2.7
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openstackgerritYuriy Taraday proposed openstack-infra/git-review: Use PyOpenSSL in tests to support SNI in Python 2.7
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fungilifeless: around for a bit. been moving boxes all day, and have a few minutes on the computer now before i pass out for the night00:45
greghaynesfungi: house acquired?00:46
fungigreghaynes: yeah, deed transfer was recorded friday morning00:46
greghaynesfungi: nice, congrats!00:46
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lifelessjhesketh: pong00:51
lifelessfungi: now, what - oh yeah. 2.600:51
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lifelessfungi: why can't we delete the master 2.6 jobs before juno is canned?00:52
jheskethlifeless: wondering what you think the best way of handling mock 1.1 breakages in kilo are00:52
jheskethlifeless: short of fixing all the regressions, I thought pinning to 1.0 (since that was the version of mock at the time of release) could be a solution00:52
lifelessjhesketh: isn't kilo capped ?00:52
jheskethbut that's difficult with global reqs etc00:53
jheskethlifeless: no00:53
lifelessjhesketh: I am sure someone put a cap through g-r00:53
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Update Kilo requirements code
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lifelessjhesketh: ^^ I keep hoping someone will merge this thing I did to unwedge kilo updates00:54
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lifelessjhesketh: but y'know. whatevs00:54
lifelessjhesketh: mock>=1.0,<1.1.000:54
lifelessjhesketh: thats in global-requirements00:55
lifelessjhesketh: in kilo00:55
jheskethlifeless: that doesn't apply to python tests though does it?00:55
openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Pin mock to <1.1.0 for py26
lifelessjhesketh: it unwedges the check-requirements job which is what failed in 20080000:58
fungilifeless: i'm all for dropping 2.6 except on stable branches, have brought it up to the oslo team several times. never got very far though (not sure if they're hesitant, or making the decision has just been a low priority for them)00:59
lifelessfungi: I'm confused ;)01:00
lifelessfungi: you said we couldn't drop 2.6 until juno dies, in a context that was talking about master.01:00
lifelessfungi: 2.6 on stable/* I don't care about : we're not overhauling the requirement management stuff there.01:01
fungilifeless: the subtext there was "unless you can convince some projects to stop running python 2.6 jobs on their master branches"01:01
lifelessfungi: so, ok. So there's no actual reason you know of to run 2.6 on master branches?01:01
lifelessother than some projects not getting the clue01:01
fungibasically as long as infra has services running on centos 6 we have an available platform for running python 2.6 jobs, so infra's not forcing anyone to drop them. it's up to different project-teams to decide what they test where01:01
lifelessI think they will when constraints comes into tox, cause their 2.6 jobs will stop them adopting it.01:01
lifelesswe're not compiling a 2.6 upper-constraints.txt01:02
lifelessand unless you want to run deadsnakes on the merge job, it'll be a little tricky to do so :)01:02
fungifor a while we didn't have all the library projects branched, since it was done piecemeal, and not sure if they're all capped on stable branches to avoid running with master versions, but assuming that's been completed i expect it to be safe01:02
lifelesswe'll find out if they aren't01:02
fungii wasn't tracking it particularly closely01:03
fungii just know there's still a lot of oslo libraries and client libraries testing with python 2.6 on master still01:03
lifelesswho is meant to be unwinding that?01:04
fungino idea01:04
fungithey had originally resolved to do that until juno eol, but that was before we ended up branching/capping everywhere01:04
fungiso i think it's perfectly reasonable to revisit it01:04
fungiand revise that decision accordingly01:04
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lifelessfungi: could you do me a favour?01:07
lifelessfungi: pastebin somewhere a list of the projects at fault?01:07
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/glean: Move init scripts and installation of them in tree
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fungimight be hard to slice/dice zuul's layout.yaml that way. i'd need to analyze the regular expression matches with branch overrides for any patterns matching python 2.6 jobs looking for expressions omitting stable/kilo and master, then compare that to the projects which have obvious python 2.6 job names or project-templates applied to them01:11
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fungithat is to say, we don't have a "list" of projects which are in this situation that i know of01:12
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fungizuul's configuration model doesn't present things that way01:12
lifelessfungi: exactly why I'm asking :)01:13
lifelessI'll just say 'you know who you are' then01:13
funginot something i have time for before i fall asleep tonight, but i can try to figure it out tomorrow01:13
fungiafter i get the first batch of summit passes mailed out01:14
fungii agree having a list of repos/people to pester will make it go a lot faster01:15
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anteayafungi: happy summit passes01:19
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fungii hope so. this will be my first time mailing out the codes to everyone. but i've tested everything out and confirmed it's working as expected so just banking on no surprises01:25
Clintalways a safe bet01:25
fungiyeah, 'cause when does anything unexpected ever happen with software?01:26
* fungi -> zzzzz01:26
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lifelessjhesketh: so yeah if you want to unbreak kilo - +2
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lifelessjhesketh: and get someone to +2A it03:08
jheskethlifeless: looking, it's huge though03:08
lifelessjhesketh: better to look at it as a diff vs master03:09
jheskethgood idea03:09
lifelessthe in-kilo changes to g-r need to be reviewed03:09
lifelessthe vs-master changes to the rest03:09
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jheskethlifeless: you didn't include the permit-url's stuff03:12
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lifelessjhesketh: no, firstly thats since I did this, secondly its only needed for master03:20
jheskethyeah I figured, just checking03:21
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openstackgerritPete Zaitcev proposed openstack-infra/git-review: Update test requirements for Python 2.x
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lifelessfungi: hhahaha the irony: git-review still tests on python2.604:04
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openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add excludes support for create-zanata-xml
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StevenKpleia2: I just noticed your unzip branch for puppet-zanata -- if you're doing that (which I think is a brilliant idea), can you also fix up client.pp ?06:06
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pleia2StevenK: sure thing, waiting on some stuff from nibalizer to land to make it all a zillion times easier06:06
pleia2then we can fix all the things :)06:07
StevenKAnd sadface, topic:zanata doesn't do substring06:07
pleia2yeah, is just zanata06:07
StevenKBut I have many branches in flight :-P06:07
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StevenKpleia2: Anyway, I have successfully guilted myself into fixing my existing reviews to zanata06:10
pleia2can just git review -t zanata06:10
pleia2and update in gerrit interface if you forget (as I do)06:10
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pleia2thank you :)06:10
StevenKHuh, didn't know about -t, I'll try to remember that06:10
StevenKAnd probably fail, but them's the brakes06:10
nibalizerpleia2: that may have landed actually06:12
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pleia2nibalizer: ooh06:13
* nibalizer consciously not working until monday06:13
nibalizerbut yea06:13
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pleia2aw, almost
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pleia2I'll have a more conscious look in the morning so maybe we can get this in now06:14
pleia2speaking of which, time to stop computering for the night06:15
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nibalizer+1 to that06:20
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/nodepool: Add hostname templates to config validator
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openstackgerritFatih Degirmenci proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add Google Cloud Storage Plugin support
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openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add training-guides to populate-zanata-project
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openstackgerritFathi Boudra proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: general: add support for childCustomWorkspace
StevenKAJaeger: Re your mail, there is no point to add training-guides to Zanata, then?07:17
AJaegerStevenK: I think so, let me double check...07:18
StevenKAJaeger: Then I can abandon , sad that it only lived for 8 minutes :-P07:19
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AJaegerStevenK: sorry ;(07:20
AJaegerLooking at project-config/zuul/layout.yaml: There are no translation jobs setup for training-guides07:20
StevenKAJaeger: It's not a problem, that branch took me all of five minutes07:20
AJaegerSo, we're not pushing any content since some time to the server....07:20
AJaegerTherefore, let's leave it out.07:20
AJaegerStevenK: You might want to import the files to fill translation memory.07:21
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StevenKAJaeger: I'm not certain if Zanata works like that -- I'll check with Carlos when he's online and see. For the moment, I'll leave the branches locally.07:25
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openstackgerritMarek Denis proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add requirements job to keystoneauth-saml2
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Thorking_Hi, any body could help me to review this bug reported by openstack-infra08:11
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lifelessSergeyLukjanov: hi. please - diff it vs master to make it a lot smaller (but the g-r changes should be diffed vs kilo)08:15
AJaegerStevenK: See Daisy's emails - she's really concerned about the translation memory, so talking to Carlos and figuring out what to do is important. Thanks!08:16
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salv-orlandoaloha! I have a quick noob question - is the requirements job supposed to run on stable branches?08:18
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dgonzalezHi all, could somebody who understands devstack-gate multinode support please review
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lifelesssalv-orlando: which requirements job :)08:23
lifelesssalv-orlando: there are two08:23
AJaegersalv-orlando: what's the background of your question?08:23
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salv-orlandoAJaeger, lifeless: I think i can answer all your questions with this log ->
salv-orlandothe "requirements" job (can't tell which one from the log but I can go and look it up in project-config) fails because it uses the stable/kilo branch of openstack.requirements08:24
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salv-orlandowhich does not have the modules requested by project-requirements-change08:25
salv-orlandoso I was thinking that the project configuration is not correct as this job is probably not supposed to run on stable branches08:25
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lifelesssalv-orlando: right, 198145 needs to land08:30
salv-orlandolifeless: thanks. then it's just a matter of time I guess08:30
AJaegersalv-orlando: it should run on older branches as well - your change touches the requirements and therefore it is run there.08:31
lifelesssalv-orlando: its been up for a bit... I've gotten tired of whinging for reviews onit08:31
lifelessoh reminds me. dhellmann - we need to teach the changelog tools about deps in setup.cfg08:32
StevenKAJaeger: I've restored the change to populate-zanata-project, I can create training-guide/icehouse in Zanata and then populate that, leaving training-guide without translate: true in projects.yaml08:34
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openstackgerritYanis Guenane proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Disable MongoDB journaling in the CI
openstackgerritAntoine Musso proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Zuul references cleaner
openstackgerritAntoine Musso proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Zuul references cleaner
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openstackgerritVictor Stinner proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make gate-heat-python34 check voting and add gate
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openstackgerritYanis Guenane proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Disable MongoDB journaling in the CI
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salv-orlandolifeless: no worries, I'm not in a rush for it to merge ;) But I had to change the requirements in the vmware-nsx repo as some package versions where uncapped and not working anymore with the klo branch09:17
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openstackgerritSirushti Murugesan proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make the Heat grenade job voting
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openstackgerritFabien Boucher proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Move server class call outside of zuul_*.pp classes
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openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Move cinderclient-dsvm-functional job to non-voting queue
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openstackgerritVladimir Kozhukalov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add project fuel-agent repo
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openstackgerritFabien Boucher proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Fix variables access warning in logs.vhost template
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-pip: Allow to send optional values to configuration
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fungilifeless: well, git-review is a branchless client tool, and doesn't participate in global requirements. for now we're assuming that someone might still be trying to push patches for review from a centos 6.x system. i figured we'd drop 2.6 jobs from it when we drop centos 6 based testing for other infra projects11:36
openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-pip: Allow to send optional values to configuration
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sdaguefungi: hey, so in poking at bit at ci-watch and what I can get out of graphite. I realized we're missing something important, which is how to get from a point in the time series db to which job actually is that.11:42
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sdaguethat information is fully lost, right?11:42
sdagueat least through graphite11:42
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fungisdague: yes, zuul is simply sending an update to statsd with value and the counter to which it should be applied11:48
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fungiit's really only intended for analysis in aggregate and not for drilling down to a specific result from one instance of a job run11:49
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sdagueyeh, we just made an assumption in vancouver that it was going to be useful for this exercise, and I think playing with some things, means it probably isn't. It's sort of done one of the analysis phases for us pretty early.11:50
sdaguebut that leaves us with a lossy set11:50
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openstackgerritSomay Jain proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support for more configurable options in sonar publisher
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openstackgerritSomay Jain proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support for more conditions type in conditions-buildstep plugin
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Somaymgagne hashar zaro : Could you please review my open JJB patches. I need another +2 for most of them to get merged. Thanks :),n,z12:12
openstackgerritJiri Stransky proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make heat-templates CI passable again - remove py26 job
hasharSomay: oh you have been quite busy :-}12:12
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Somayhashar: yes :) I’m a ODL intern, primarily working on JJB itself. That’s why12:13
hasharwhat is ODL ?12:14
hasharseems most are very straightforward so I am going to mass approve them12:14
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SomayWell, thanks :)12:14
hasharSomay: you have a nitpick at,unified :D12:15
hasharthough we can merge that one as is12:15
hasharit is not a big deal12:15
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support for health-scale-factor in junit plugin
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SomayAh, right. I’ll change that in one of my upcoming patches12:16
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Adding support for javadoc plugin
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hasharSomay: on,unified  can you amend to use parentheses around the imported names?  Will approve on spot :D12:22
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SomaySure, will do that right away :)12:23
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openstackgerritSomay Jain proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support for repo-depth and ignore-externals in svn plugin
hasharit is landing12:27
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openstackgerritFatih Degirmenci proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add Google Cloud Storage Plugin support
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openstackgerrityan.haifeng proposed openstack/requirements: add openstack_requirements to sys.path in
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Improvement in the Credentials Binding Plugin
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added support for groovy script trigger
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openstackgerritSomay Jain proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Adding support for IvyTrigger Plugin
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dgonzalezhi sdague: Could you have a look at if you have some time?12:55
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openstackgerritFabien Boucher proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Move server class call outside of zuul_*.pp classes
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support for repo-depth and ignore-externals in svn plugin
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hasharSomay: (new options for the git plugin)  needs a rebase :/13:01
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openstackgerrityan.haifeng proposed openstack/requirements: add /openstack_requirements to sys.path in
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sdaguedgonzalez: one minor typo we should fix13:06
sdaguewhere's the project-config change for this job?13:06
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dgonzalezsdague: ok i will fix the typo. Regarding the project-config job: my plan was to add the multi region support first and then create an experimental job to test it.13:11
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openstackgerritDaniel Gonzalez Nothnagel proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Multi-region dg support
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dgonzalezsdague: Is there a place in project-config where such experimental test jobs should be placed? If not, i would create an experimental job for heat, because my goal is to create a multi-region scenario test for heat.13:18
openstackgerritSomay Jain proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support for more extensions and options in Git plugin
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Somayhashar: Regarding the lists in the docs. I tried to make them, but I could not figure out how to have lists under a table. The usual syntax didn’t seem to work.13:25
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Somayhashar: i’ll look it up online13:27
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openstackgerritVladimir Sharshov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add project fuel-nailgun-agent repo
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openstackgerritVladimir Sharshov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add project fuel-nailgun-agent repo
openstackgerritAdam Coldrick proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Stop using fixed-width containers
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openstackgerritQiming Teng proposed openstack/requirements: Fix Routes version problem for py3
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mriedemwe're not seeing g-r syncs to nova on stable/kilo, is there something i'm missing?13:57
mriedemspecifically for this
mtreinishlifeless: heh, I freely admit I've got a bias when I'm looking at these things13:58
mtreinishlifeless: although fwiw, I suggested the using selection stuff from rsync because I thought it would work not because it's what tempest would need13:59
mriedemdansmith: ah, looks like g-r sync is just busted
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mriedemlifeless: have you seen that? ^13:59
mriedemsdague: ^13:59
mtreinish(what os-testr does with a blacklist file is really all people using tempest ever want)13:59
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dansmithmriedem: ah14:01
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openstackgerritMerged stackforge/python-jenkins: Remove unneeded wrapping of imports
dansmithmriedem: unfortunately, I thought he had already backported these.. we really need them to be in kilo like yesterday14:01
fungimriedem: dansmith: he did. not enough people reviewing his backports to the stable branches of the requirements repo14:02
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mriedemfungi: i think dansmith is talking about jhesketh's nova backports14:02
mriedemwhich are blocked on the reqs thing14:02
fungioh, that14:02
mriedemso we need that ^14:02
mriedemholy mega squash14:03
fungibut yeah, lifeless has backports of the requirements tooling for stable requirements branches to get stable requirements proposals and requirements check jobs working again14:03
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mriedemalright, sdague: jd__: GheRivero: ttx: markmcclain: zul: dhellmann: can we get eyes on ? that's blocking stable/kilo backports for nova14:05
mriedemit's already got a +2 from jhesketh14:05
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mriedemhell, i guess i have +2 on here also14:06
* mriedem reviews14:06
markmcclainmriedem: I don't have +2 in stable requirements for some reason14:06
mriedemhrm, ok14:06
mriedemi'll review it14:06
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e0nehi all! is anywhere doc how to config zuul? i'm hitting with moving job from experimental to check (non-voting) queue14:07
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jeblairsdague: yes, mysql reporter would be needed for that data i think14:09
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GheRiveromriedem: I don't have stable powers neither14:10
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fungie0ne: (unsurprisingly?) zuul has documentation.
e0nefungi: it didn't help me:(14:12
fungie0ne: oh, you're asking about moving a job between pipelines in our zuul configuration? which job for what repo?14:13
e0nefungi: i'll be grateful if you or somebode else help me with
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fungie0ne: your initial question sounded like maybe you were trying to install and run zuul. i'll take a quick look14:14
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e0nefungi: i've got it. need be more clear with questions:)14:14
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anteayae0ne: the biggest thing we need to know is if you are talking about our system or your own system14:18
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anteayawe get both questions and the querant often assumes we know which situation they are experiencing14:18
anteayawe don't always guess correctly14:18
e0neanteaya: i'm asking about openstack-infra jobs14:19
anteayae0ne: thank you14:19
jeblaire0ne: what's the error message you're seeing?14:20
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fungie0ne: see comment14:21
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jeblaire0ne: i don't know why that's failing for you, but you can see the actual error in the job output here:
jeblaire0ne: which is: 2015-07-13 11:09:51.394 | KeyError: 'cinderclient-dsvm-functional'14:22
e0nefungi: thank you14:22
fungiyou're welcome!14:22
e0nejeblair: that error message i see after addressing fungi's comment14:23
Clintwhy are there non-voting gate jobs?14:23
fungiClint: there shouldn't be normally14:23
openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack-infra/project-config: xMove cinderclient-dsvm-functional job to non-voting queue
openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Move cinderclient-dsvm-functional job to non-voting queue
anteayaClint: where do you see non-voting gate jobs?14:25
fungiClint: though if you're asking for the reason i think you're asking, the regular expressions used to match job names when setting them to non-voting are also often times the ones used to set which branches are valid for those jobs, and so tend to specify (check|gate)-...14:25
yolandahi there, can i have some other eye on ? i'd like to land it, looks quite simple, and it's causing a problem downstream14:25
AJaegerClint: if you find one, send a patch to remove it, please - or tell us about it.14:25
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: [WIP] Partial migrate to puppet-httpd module
e0neClint: in cinder, we use non-voting jobs14:25
AJaegere0ne: not for the gate queue AFAIK - please show me one otherwise14:26
anteayae0ne: his point is that non-voting jobs should be in the check queue only and not in the gate queue14:26
anteayae0ne: regardless of whether the job is named check- or gate-14:26
e0negood point. i'm agree with you14:26
AJaegere0ne: look at - non-voting jobs are only in check queue14:27
e0neAJaeger: thanks. it makes sence14:27
fungii sort of feel like we've outgrown the need to put check and gate jobs on different workers though, and would be entirely in favor of a mass edit of zuul/jjb configuration to strip those prefixes everywhere14:27
AJaegerfungi: YEAH!14:28
Clintanteaya: i don't know if any are enabled, but there seem to be a ton of gate-only voting: false stanzas14:28
anteayafungi: would that make sense before zuul3?14:28
anteayaClint: ah because the name of the job is gate-foo14:28
fungiseems orthogonal to zuul v3 to me14:28
AJaegeranteaya: gate and check confuses many...14:28
jeblairfungi: yeah, we haven't used that feature in a while14:28
anteayafungi: really, I thought that was our next big direction14:28
anteayaAJaeger: agreed14:29
fungiwell, renaming some jobs is not really a direction, it's just cleanup14:29
anteayasometimes I like to hear what someone is thinking rather than try to guess, so I ask them14:29
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* AJaeger is happy to do the cleanup in smaller bits14:29
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AJaegerJust one question: How to we call current check-X or gate-X jobs? All check-X? All gate-X?14:30
anteayajust because I ask doesn't mean I don't have a good idea, but I finding asking gives them time to clarity so we both know14:30
AJaegeranteaya: agreed14:30
jeblairAJaeger: gate-14:30
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AJaegerSo, we would change also the templates that have  '{pipeline}-functional-dsvm-akanda{branch-designator}' and remove pipeline completely? Let me give an example change...14:32
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anteayathis is the mod_version cgit patch: what do we want to do with it? any thoughts?14:33
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AJaegerjeblair, anteaya, fungi: What do you think of the above? ^14:36
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Always use gate- instead of check (akanda)
AJaegerArgh, here it comes ^14:36
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anteayaI think gerrit is really slow, as a starting point14:37
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AJaegeranteaya: This time it was an error on my side ;(14:37
anteayaI'm fine with the change, markmcclain any thoughts on changing the akanda job name?14:37
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anteayaAJaeger: now it is gerrit gui taking an age between page loads14:38
AJaegeranteaya: it does not change the job name at all, it was gate before14:38
openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Move cinderclient-dsvm-functional job to non-voting queue
jeblairanteaya: i don't think we need to get everyone's okay on something like that14:38
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jeblairAJaeger: wfm14:38
jeblairAJaeger: however....14:39
markmcclainanteaya: +114:39
jeblairAJaeger: i think we use {pipeline} for periodic14:39
jeblairin some cases14:39
annegentleif git add <path/to/filename> tells me "pathspec is beyond a symbolic link" what do I do? this is for adding a doc/source file to the governance repo.14:39
annegentleupdate the link, then git add?14:39
jeblairAJaeger: so we may want to keep {pipeline} in the templates14:39
AJaegerjeblair: so, leave pipeline if it's used for periodic? Or leave pipeline in all cases?14:39
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: [WIP] Partial migrate to puppet-httpd module
jeblairAJaeger: in all cases, i think?14:39
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AJaegerjeblair: that makes my change easier ;)14:40
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anteayamarkmcclain: thank you14:42
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pabelangerjeblair, regarding
pabelangerbare-centos7 does not exist as an image.14:44
pabelangerare you thinking that will be a dib?14:44
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anteayaanyone care to offer an opinion on the current cgit patch with mod_version?14:44
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jeblairpabelanger: i agree.  i don't know, i just copied what was happening before.14:44
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anteayasince I was just fixing yolanda's patch as I was asked to I'd like to know if folks want me to continue carrying it or abandon it14:45
pabelangerjeblair, Ya, I would like to get a bare-centos7 image going, but could use some guidance.  I'm assuming dibs are the way to go14:45
jeblairpabelanger: ah, yeah, we should definitely use dib for new stuff14:45
pabelangerjeblair, okay, I'll spend some time this week getting it going. I'm sure ianw will be more then happy to help!14:45
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Always use gate- instead of check (akanda, ceilometer)
AJaegerjeblair: I left the pipelines this time, is this the way forward? ^14:47
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Always use gate- instead of check (akanda, ceilometer)
jeblairAJaeger: lgtm14:48
AJaegerjeblair: then let me do a few of these smaller changes to avoid many rebases...14:49
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fungipabelanger: instead of bare-centos7 we should name it centos-7 and you can probably just reuse the nodepool.yaml i did for centos-6 with minor tweaks14:52
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fungipabelanger: oh, though we likely already have a devstack-centos7 dib image, which would in theory be ~ the same14:54
annegentleoh nevermind my q above, I was doing the git add for the wrong file14:54
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Always use gate- instead of check (cinder, dragonflow)
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openstackgerritSomay Jain proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support for more conditions type in conditions-buildstep plugin
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openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Move cinderclient-dsvm-functional job to non-voting queue
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove unregistered beaker-centos7 job
e0nethank you everyone for help. tests passesd locally, wating for gates14:55
pabelangerjeblair, nibalizer ^ removed beaker-centos7 for now14:55
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pabelangerjeblair, nibalizer another option would be to move to the devstack-* node for that testing14:56
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pabelangerwhich I think the openstack-puppet modules are using14:56
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pabelangerEmilienM, thoughts? ^14:57
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sdaguedgonzalez: so I'd say an experimental job on heat, devstack-gate, and devstack, as all of those might need fixes to address issues14:58
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Update Kilo requirements code
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EmilienMpabelanger: well, I don't have thoughts on this thing I don't work on infra modules14:58
crinklepabelanger: yeah we're using devstack- nodes14:58
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crinklei don't really understand the difference14:58
anteayattx: since the tokyo summit is tuesday to friday when is the tc/board meeting, on the Monday?14:59
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ttxanteaya: tat is the current plan yes14:59
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Always use gate- instead of check (ec2api)
AJaegerjeblair, fungi: We have in jenkins/jobs/gerrit.yaml both check-gerrit-buck and gate-gerrit-buck. Only difference is that the check jobs includes an extra publisher. Should we merge those as well? or do we need them separately?15:00
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sdaguejeblair: is there currently a mysql reporter? I didn't see that in the code15:00
pabelangercrinkle, devstack nodes have some runtime dependencies for Openstack projects, vs bare nodes. I actually think testing puppet on bare nodes is better, but like I said we are lacking the centos7 bare node.15:00
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pabelangerGoing to update my patch to use devstack nodes for now15:00
pabelangerjust to get some coverage on centos715:00
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yolandahi anteaya, so some people asked to use puppet instead of mod_version. However, i'm afraid of that approach, because assuming that centos6=apache 2.2 and centos7=apache 2.4 is too much assumption for me15:03
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yolandasomeone could have upgraded apache on centos6 in some way, for example15:03
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Switch to devstack-{ostype} for beaker infra jobs
pabelangercrinkle, nibalizer, jeblair ^ that should be better15:04
anteayattx: okay thanks15:04
anteayayolanda: do you want to take back that patch then, it is yours, I just offered it because I was under the impression it was needed in a hurry15:05
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yolandai am ok on taking that, no problem15:05
yolandai'll add some comments to it15:05
anteayayolanda: it would be better if you kept an eye on it, as I don't have the perspective of the bigger picture here15:05
anteayayolanda: thanks15:05
anteayaI just didn't want it to mould in a corner15:05
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Shrewsmordred: do you have any idea what this error is about?
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yolandathx for that. It's a patch we've been using for some time downstream, but with the exception that we had mod_version already enabled15:06
yolandaso it didn't crash for us15:06
Shrewsmordred: Oh! I think I know15:08
openstackgerritSomay Jain proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support for more configurable options in sonar publisher
yolandamodred, aded some comments to
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yolandawhy the +workflow and then the -workflow a bit late?15:10
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katyaferventHi all!15:11
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katyaferventDo you know where bots, that synchronize commits and bug status are configured?15:12
dgonzalezsdague: Ok, i just looked at the jobs and i think i have an idea how to add experimental jobs for heat and for devstack-gate, but i am not sure how a job for devstack could look like. Any suggestions?15:13
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fungiyolanda: might also be safe to just ensure mod_version is enabled in the puppet class15:14
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anteayakatyafervent: can you be more specific about what you are looking at and what you are hoping to find?15:15
yolandafungi, ok15:15
yolandamakes sense15:15
anteayakatyafervent: I don't yet know what you are talking about15:16
katyaferventwhen topic closes-bug are in commit message - appropriate bugs are updated automatically15:17
katyaferventit works for main murano repository, but not for python-muranoclient15:17
anteayakatyafervent: that hooks into launchpad15:17
anteayahave you set up launchpad properly for python-muranoclient?15:17
katyaferventcan you tell me how it can be configured?15:17
katyaferventI think we didn't15:18
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anteayathis is a good place to begin15:18
anteayamake sure you have gone through all these steps15:18
katyaferventanteaya, thanks a lot!15:19
anteayakatyafervent: welcome15:19
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anteayamorning Sam-I-Am15:22
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anteayahow go the efforts to make networking a better documented experience?15:22
Sam-I-Amanteaya: so far so good. slogging through a bunch of updates to the scenarios.15:23
Sam-I-Amanteaya: made the "important" one (providernets + linuxbridge) even better/easier last week15:23
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anteayaSam-I-Am: yay15:23
anteayathank you thank you thank you15:24
openstackgerritDavid Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Allow use of admin tokens in keystone
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harlowja_at_homeanyway i could get a approve on (removal of 2.6 jobs from a new oslo lib that doesn't need to support 2.6)15:28
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anteayaharlowja_at_home: done, thank you15:30
harlowja_at_homeanteaya, thx :)15:30
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Revert "Changes puppet-apply-centos job status"
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Remove python26-jobs from futurist
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mriedemis it intentional that the g-r syncs don't necessarily line up with what's in global-requirements.txt?15:38
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mriedem has pbr pbr>=0.6,!=0.7,<1.0 but g-r has pbr>=0.6,!=0.7,<1.015:38
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mriedemoops, former has pbr!=0.7,<1.0,>=0.615:38
mriedemlifeless: ^?15:38
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Shrewsmordred: SpamapS: I modified to recognize both '2' and '2.0' as valid identity api versions because os-client-config uses '2' for a default, but devstack writes out a clouds.yml that uses '2.0'. This was causing the functional tests to fail since we were only looking for '2'.15:40
fungimriedem: that looks like a stable branch req. is it from a recent sync? i thought the requirements syncs were still not back to working for stable15:42
mriedemfungi: yes that's a stable/kilo reqs sync for nova15:42
mriedemthe reqs stable/kilo mega squash patch is merged15:42
mriedemso syncs are happening again15:42
mriedemi'm concerned, however, about the order of the version constraints and that they don't match what's in g-r15:42
mriedemi recall that coming up last week during the mock snafu and people were confused about how order mattered there15:43
mriedemi thought sdague posted something to the ML about that order but i can't find it15:45
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fungimriedem: ahh, yeah what currently happens is that the global-requirements.txt is parsed and tokenized, then the version comparisons are sorted based on a strict ascii sort, which means !=,<,<=,==,>,>= in that order15:51
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mriedemfungi: hrm, ok, can we do that to g-r.txt itself?15:51
fungimriedem: so when the sync is proposed, it's based on a normalized reconstruction rather than being a character-for-character match of the original15:52
openstackgerritKirill Zaitsev proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add periodic kilo & juno jobs to murano
mriedemwe should doc that somewhere in the requirements repo, i could look at adding a note about that15:52
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fungimriedem: we could probably normalize global-reqs and then add a check job to confirm any additions are prenormalized, though that seems a bit heavy-handed15:52
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mriedemfungi: ok, well i'll start with just updating the readme.rst in the requirements repo with that info15:53
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sdaguefungi: it's not sorted15:54
fungimriedem: also my explanation is based on a couple-weeks-old recollection from reviewing the patches that implemented the new behavior, so you might want to take a quick peek at the code yourself and quote straight for the source's mouth (so to speak)15:54
mtreinishfungi: where do I report bugs with the eventbrite registration form?15:54
sdagueit's the str function of something in pkg_requires15:54
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Revert "Changes puppet-apply-centos job status"
sdagueso it's just whatever that spits back15:54
mriedemsdague: ah15:55
fungisdague: which may be getting ordered by that15:55
sdaguebut yes, it's going through a pkg_resources object15:55
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sdaguedgonzalez: it would be the same job, just on all of those projects in experimental15:56
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mriedemsdague: i guess this ?15:58
mriedemspecifier = str(parsed.specifier)15:58
sdaguemriedem: yep15:59
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openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: Remove whitespace errors.
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pabelangerfungi, thank you kind sir for the email16:03
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fungipabelanger: don't spend it all in one place16:03
fungino, wait, _do_ spend it all in one place! ;)16:03
pabelangerSPEND ALL THE THINGS16:03
mriedemand the pkg_resources str would be this
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zaropelix: i want to do another release of python-jenkins.  do you want it to include any of your changes?16:04
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sdaguemriedem: probably, which also means it doesn't look order stable16:05
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openstackgerritScott Moser proposed openstack-infra/git-review: support urls as change-id input
openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: Remove whitespace errors.
fungisdague: mriedem: so likely we should impose some sort of normalization to keep it ordered, or add some additional metadata in our parser to be able to preserve the order when writing them back out again16:07
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sdaguefungi: I think there is a well defined human order, it would just be nice for us to iterate the elements and create that16:07
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openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: Remove whitespace errors.
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fungisdague: i'm cool with that. it's basically option #116:08
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sdaguelifeless was against that approach because he did not feel that list was a contract in pkg_resources, so I don't know16:09
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anteayaClint: thanks16:09
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Clintanteaya: no, thank you16:10
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mordredShrews: awesome. we should also maybe fix devstack I think16:15
fungisdague: i don't know that it's something we should think of as a contract, but our sync script needs to be deterministic. so when we upgrade pkg_resources we don't suddenly rewrite most of the lines in everyone's reqs files16:16
* fungi needs to disappear for some lunch errands. bbiab16:16
fungioh, also i noticed we/i missed adding reverse dns entries to the new gerrit server, so i've fixed that now16:17
jeblairfungi: ! thanks!16:17
anteayafungi: enjoy lunch16:18
anteayapleia2: morning16:18
jeblairfungi, ttx, anteaya, AJaeger: I have significantly revised ; let me know what you think16:18
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SpamapSShrews: ACK16:23
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anteayajeblair: thank you, I commented16:29
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jeblairanteaya: i understand your frustration and I agree with you and would prefer something even stronger than my first draft. However the reaction to it was generally that people wanted more freedom from the tyranny of the TC.  (And this from the TC itself)16:35
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anteayafolks feel the TC is being tyranical?16:36
anteayaI thought that was the value of OpenStack16:36
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anteayaseems like the people who most want to benefit from the value OpenStack offers are the loudest complainers about how that value is achieved16:37
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anteayathere are lots of places to develop software that provide no value16:37
anteayait is called the internet16:37
anteayano tyranny there16:37
anteayafeel free to ignore or dismiss my perspective16:38
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jeblairanteaya: i find saying "i agree" to be a particularly ineffective way of ignoring someone's perspective.  i believe the TC does not want to be proscriptive in new project development, and I don't want to block progress on eliminating our ridiculous renames because we disagree with that.16:43
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jeblairanteaya: i hope eventually the TC will decide that it can do something better than approve yaml file changes, but until then, at least it's just the TC moving bits of yaml around and not us taking outages :)16:44
anteayafair enough16:45
anteayait is to the point the 4 opens mean nothing16:45
anteayasince we have allowed them to mean nothing16:45
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/subunit2sql: Add migration to add indexes on common search patterns
jeblairanteaya: that i disagree with -- i think it's entirely possible to be completely open in all 4 ways and still make no coherent sense at all16:46
anteayaI agree with that16:47
anteayabut projects using google docs16:47
anteayaand other non open tools16:47
anteayawhen we accept them16:47
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anteayajust nullifies any value we place on them16:48
anteayathey are just tick boxes16:48
jeblairanteaya: i think we reject them or ask them to change when we find out about that16:48
anteayanot a philosopy or value system16:48
anteayaokay rally16:48
anteayauses google docs16:48
anteayasays so in the meeting logs16:48
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anteayaI've told others and seen no action16:48
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anteayaI'm going to get a walk in, should be back in about an hour16:52
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pelixzaro: planning to drop python 2.6 support or pin the mock package?16:56
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add Google Cloud Storage Plugin support
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zaropelix: i wanted release views support and scriptText api support.17:01
zaropelix: does 2.6 still work?17:01
pelixcomment in indicates that the latest version of mock is an issue17:01
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pelix1.0.1 was the last supported version, typically I expect that anyone running python 2.6 (RHEL 6?) would not have a new enough pip or tox for markers to work around this easily17:02
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pelixSo maybe pin mock to 1.0.1 for this release or drop python 2.6 support?17:03
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zarogreghaynes: around?17:03
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pelixPersonally I don't see any reason that we need the newer mock17:04
zaropelix: i don't see any reason to support py 2.6 either.17:04
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clarkbit is more strict and catches a ton of issues with broken tests17:05
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zaroclarkb: is that a reason?17:05
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pelixIs that a good reason to drop it right now? I would recommend at least one or two releases where we warn users about support going away17:06
zaroclarkb: since your around, would you happen to know why i can't install pyyaml?
zaroclarkb: i'm running on trusty17:06
dolphmlifeless: on the eventbrite summit registration form, the "Please describe" field for the "Other" option under Organization Role is required, regardless of whether or not you select "Other"17:07
zaropelix: can't users just go back to some older release?17:07
mordredpelix, zaro: perhaps pin mock to 1.0.1 and cut a released marked as "this is the last release supporting 2.6" ... that way people using it on 2.6 arent' screwed- but also you can stop worrying about it on master?17:07
pelixwhat he said :p ^^17:07
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zaropelix: ok, do you have py 2.6 handy?17:08
zaropelix: would you like to give it test ?17:08
pelixI would be tempted to stick in a logger message to emit warning if python 2.6 is detected17:08
pelixpeople don't read release notes when projects are installed as dependencies17:09
pelixit's why we got caught out with mock17:09
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zaropelix: there might already be releases that do not work with py 26 though17:10
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pelixWell the test pass on python 2.6, obviously that's no guarentee17:11
zarogood enough? or would you like to do some testing?17:11
pelixas long as you run mock < 1.0.117:11
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zaroi can test if you prefer.17:11
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Add puppet-community/archive module
openstackgerritDavid Lyle proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Removing horizon django 1.4 job
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pelixI think verifying that I can connect to an actual jenkins with python 2.6 and running an update from JJB using python 2.6 would probably exercise it sufficiently17:12
clarkbzaro you need to intall python-dev for the python headers17:13
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Add Zuul v3 spec.
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zaropelix: +117:15
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zaropelix: want to push a change up to pin, update some docs and add a log message for last release for py 2.6?17:16
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zaroclarkb: i'm pretty dang sure i tried that but will try again.17:17
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pelixzaro: using warnings?17:18
pelixor logging?17:18
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Load in nanliu/git module
zaropelix: warning i guess. i assume we just remove for following release?17:22
zarowarning sounds right then17:23
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sdagueso... now subnodes have no hostname? - ?17:24
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mordredsdague: greghaynes will be so happy to learn taht17:26
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mordredbtw: sdague, clarkb17:26
mordredis related to that17:26
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mordredI'd kind of like to get that landed before we diagnose anything further, because greg has done the testing on each of the clouds to show that glean is doing what we expect17:27
annegentleTC members flaper87 jeblair lifeless sdague dtroyer dhellmann jgriffith mordred russellb ttx a reminder to get your tweet on for latest TC Highlights
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sdaguemordred: sure, I think that pleia2 and jeblair had the -1s previously, so it would be good if they acked that17:28
russellbannegentle: no tweet button?!17:28
annegentlerussellb: I pasted the link! :)17:28
russellbi have to copy/paste a link to twitter like it's some kind of stone age17:28
Guest55russellb haha17:29
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DavieyHi, how do we get openstack / meetbot in another channel?17:30
pleia2sdague: ah yes, much better now, reviewing17:30
Davieypleia2: You rock.17:30
sdakehey folks, we have a gate job and it keeps failing17:30
sdakethe folks that work on the project think this is because ipv6 is not working correctly in the gate17:31
zaropelix: i will approve unless you want to take a look first.17:31
sdakeany suggestions to resolve?17:31
pleia2Daviey: in short, first it needs to be in the accessbot config in project-config repo, then if you want gerrit comments it needs to be in gerritbot config in project-config, logging needs a change to eavesdrop config in system-config (this should depend on an accessbot config, if accessbot isn't already set up)17:31
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pleia2Daviey: and we need to have a no-meeting time to approve a logging change since it restarts the meeting bot, so it sometimes takes a few days17:32
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Make the tempest-dsvm-ironic-pxe_ipa job voting
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Make the tempest-dsvm-ironic-pxe_ipa job voting
pelixzaro: that change looks go to me, and also it'll really help JJB delete ;)17:32
clarkbmordred where doyou change the label for the jobs?17:33
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jgriffithannegentle: done, nice work BTW!17:33
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add dsvm job for oslo.cache
annegentlejgriffith: whew, thanks! Those are harder to write than I expected sometimes :)17:34
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annegentlegood thing dhellmann has eagle eyes17:34
jgriffithannegentle: indeed!!  Hats off to you17:34
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zaroclarkb: thanks, it was actually the openssl libraries that i needed. thought it was pyyaml because it was the first error during install of nodepool.17:36
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zaroclarkb: so now it looks like tests requires a local mysql.  i remembered you had a script for setting up a docker mysql, still have that?17:37
clarkbI didnt have a script for that I just start a docker running mysql17:38
pleia2Daviey: ergh, I forgot since you specifically mentioned Meetbot, we don't like to support openstack meetings outside of the -meeting channels, so that might come up during review if that's what you're trying to do17:38
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zaroclarkb: ok, do you configure the mysql host/post on the docker image or in the nodepool tests?17:39
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clarkbzaro in tge docker image17:39
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zaroclarkb: thanks17:40
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Always use gate- instead of check- (f-k*)
annegentleAJaeger: let me make sure I remember correctly, jobs just do FTP copies. Does that mean it's Cloud Sites just like docs.openstack?17:41
annegentlefungi: ^^ you may know too17:41
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Davieypleia2: well that is pants.  There does seem to be prior art of it, no?17:41
AJaegerannegentle: I assume so - but don't know ;)17:41
fungiannegentle: yes17:41
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annegentleAJaeger: ok then yeah I need clarkb or fungi to look :)17:41
Davieypleia2: The issue is that all 4 official channels are occupied already17:41
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* fungi is not really here though. just checking in from another computer mid-errands17:42
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pleia2Daviey: so you could see about another time, or propose an openstack-meeting-5 in the change, which we can then discuss17:42
annegentlefungi: ok, I'll follow up on the openstack-docs ML about the API ref docs17:42
clarkbwhat needs looking?17:42
annegentleclarkb: is currently Cloud Sites?17:42
annegentleclarkb: I think so17:42
Davieypleia2: ok, thanks17:42
clarkbyes we made it the same as docs.o.o17:43
AJaegeranteaya, jeblair, fungi: I renamed check to gate now in 4 smaller patches and would like to merge them before continuing with further changes. A review would be appreciated - but this is not critical:,n,z17:43
pleia2Daviey: obviously over-booking a timeslot also has the downside of decreasing the people who can participate (because, other meeting), so I think that's why we've mostly stopped at 417:43
pleia2Daviey: I'm sure we can discuss though17:43
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annegentleclarkb: ok, for the newer API docs reference we need to find a way to serve the content it looks like. I'll reply back on the openstack-docs mailing list, are you both (fungi and you) on there?17:43
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openstackgerritMerged stackforge/python-jenkins: Support scriptText api to execute groovy scripts on the server
clarkbmordred rrying to figure this node switch change and I thi k you need to tell zuul to use the new nodes before deleti g the old obes17:44
annegentleclarkb: AJaeger and I don't mean to drop a big ol' undefined request in IRC, just making sure I can write back on the list17:44
clarkbI am on the docs list17:44
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AJaegerannegentle: what is the problem with serving the content?17:46
annegentleAJaeger: I think Russell's solution requires angularjs17:46
annegentleit's serving the content17:46
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annegentlebut possible I misunderstand :)17:47
russellbwhat did i do?17:47
russellbi've never used angularjs, so maybe that was a typo, heh17:47
annegentleyou're russellb this is russellsim's fairy-slipper :)17:48
russellboh, highlight was russell not russellb, sorry17:48
AJaegerannegentle: I see - and have no experience with that17:49
annegentleAJaeger: yeah me neither17:49
annegentlerussellb: no worries glad fairy-slipper caught your attention again somehow17:49
annegentlerussellb: :)17:49
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mordredclarkb: yes - I believe I wrote it that way, no?17:53
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mordredclarkb: is the system-config is the project-config17:55
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Use ubuntu-trusty for multi-node tests
mordredclarkb: ^^ I added the missing depends-on17:56
openstackgerritJohn Patterson proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Adding Flowdock as a supported publisher
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: use more efficient query to find milestone
anteayahow much time/space do we have left on review.o.o
anteayaand are we making more space?17:58
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Clintwhat happened in march?18:00
anteayawe tried to upgrade and then reverted18:00
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clarkbmorded: thanks18:00
jeblairClint: moved to new server18:00
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jeblairanteaya: may was reverted upgrade18:01
anteayaah yes18:01
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: Fix check to see if string is empty
jeblairClint, anteaya: it looks like we keep _months_ of apache logs for gerrit; i think that's a good part of the steady increase18:04
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clarkbfwiw I havent seen upstream claim to have fixed the jgit issues in newer gerrit18:04
anteayahow many months of apache logs do we actually use?18:04
jeblaircurrently 4.5G18:04
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anteayahow many would we like to retain?18:05
jeblairanteaya: i think we rarely need more than 1m18:05
anteayasounds like an easy release of used space18:05
persiaIs there a potential to cleanup from the May incident to recover some of the space consumed then?18:05
openstackgerritSomay Jain proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support for more conditions type in conditions-buildstep plugin
jeblairpersia: i found some uncompressed db backups; i'm compressing them now, we may be able to remove them18:06
fungiannegentle: sorry, my "yes" earlier was meant as an answer to your question... yes developer.o.o is on cloudsites and requires ftp for access/cleanup18:06
jeblairpersia, anteaya, Clint: that recovered about 10G of space18:06
anteayajeblair: would that be configured in here somewhere?
fungiannegentle: but also, yes, i'm subscribed to the docs ml18:06
anteayathank you18:07
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persiaheh.  Suddently there is no issue :)18:07
anteayaI love it when there is no issue18:07
AJaegeranteaya: Just a question of waiting long enough ;)18:07
jeblairanteaya: i'm not sure.  the file is /etc/logrotate.d/apache2 and may simply be the default supplied by apache18:07
jeblairanteaya: it is configured to keep 52 weeks18:07
fungithough also the month of gerrit database dumps is taking up a lot of room, given that we also bup the dump directory to the backup server and could retrieve older dumps from there if we really needed18:08
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jeblairfungi: indeed, we really only need 1 file in there, assuming we have the timing correct.18:09
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jeblairtwo if we want to be extra safe :)18:09
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anteayahere are the logrotate settings:
jeblairthe compressed db dumps from the reverted upgrade now consume 1.2G18:10
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jeblairanteaya: yeah, that's adding logrotate entries for other programs but not touching apache18:10
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Clintdebian changed that to 14 days in 2.4.10-2, so presumably ubuntu has that in >= vivid18:11
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: remove neutron advanced services from grenade
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anteayajeblair: oh18:12
jeblairClint: another case of if we wait long enough there's no issue :)18:12
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openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: Fix tests on python 2.6 and mark as deprecated
anteayaI've looked in files/gerrit/ and manifests/review.pp and can't seem to find where we set apache config for gerrit18:16
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openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: Add socket timeout tests and helpers
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pelixzaro: think those are the last changes I would consider before releasing python-jenkins. Only tweak the socket timeout tests bring in is that now there is a specific exception raised18:18
pelixinstead of letting the socket.timeout be raised since for python 2.6 it's wrapped in a URLError exception for some reason.18:19
openstackgerritBrian Exelbierd proposed openstack-infra/yaml2ical: Refactored away recurrence class so that schedules can self recur
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Use ubuntu-trusty for multi-node testing
clarkbmordred ^ once that has nodes up I will merge the zuul config change18:22
mordredclarkb: ossum18:22
mordredclarkb: once those have merged, I'll rework the other patches for moving the rest of things to ubuntu-trusty ... it's a merge-conflict factory on steroids - so I figure I'll just redo it right aroudn the time we're ready to land it18:23
sdagueso... what's up with the node thrashing in nodepool?18:24
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Clintanteaya: looks like puppet-gerrit18:24
anteayaClint: ah thanks18:24
clarkbthat looks like a broken cloud18:25
openstackgerritJohn Patterson proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Adding Flowdock as a supported publisher
AJaegerwow, 135 jobs in the post queue and 298 in check - but only 10 in the gate...18:25
clarkblarge numvers in building failing rapidly would cause the thrash i thibk18:25
openstackgerritDavide Agnello proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adding RALLY_SCENARIO venv for Cue job
greghayneszaro: ohai18:27
pelixzaro: (jjb) looks good to me, plan to approve it later unless you have any concerns about18:27
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anteayawould this be the file and location?
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clarkbyes hpcloud looks deadish18:31
clarkbClient Exception Unknown Error HTTP 50018:31
Clintanteaya: no, you'd have to go and replace or twiddle /etc/logrotate.d/apache218:31
clarkbsdague: ^18:32
sdagueclarkb: neat ... apparently kind of all day?18:32
sdaguethe thrashing looks 12 hours old18:32
openstackgerritdevdatta-kulkarni proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Rename stackforge/solum -> openstack/solum
anteayalooks like shoehorning rotate 4 into /etc/logrotate.d/apache2 is what we are after18:32
greghaynessdague: btw, I think the hostname "name or service not known" fail isnt hostnabe being unset, just it being unresolveable18:33
clarkbsdague: I havne't grepped old logs yet just looking at current output but that seems to be the case based on the graph18:33
Clintanteaya: looks like there's an augeas lens that would let you only change the rotate line18:33
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sdaguegreghaynes: ok18:33
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greghayneswhich is sort of a known side effect of us having too long of a hostname - we end up getting hostname[:-1] for the hostname and /etc/hosts gets the full one for
greghaynesso \O/ everything is broken18:34
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clarkbright whihc is why I was just going to try shortening the names then ran into the voluptuous check18:35
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sdaguegreghaynes: it would be really nice to get some resolution here, and be able to start using multinode jobs again18:35
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greghaynesYep, the switch to glean patch should do it...18:36
sdaguegreghaynes: which is.... where?18:36
devkulkarniHi infra team.. I have a question about steps to take to move a project from stackforge to openstack org on github. Recently Solum was voted to join the big tent. So we want to move repos for solum and python-solumclient from stackforge to openstack. I have just posted this review: towards that. I want to know if there are other actions that need we need to take. thanks for the help.18:36
sdaguesorry, for the impatience, it's just been close to a week now.18:37
greghaynessdague: I think is the last of it18:37
greghaynessdague: yea, it was broken for a long time before too18:37
anteayaClint: I missed that, where would I see that?18:37
greghaynesI forget what it was back then..18:37
greghaynesoh, thats merged18:37
greghaynestheres a project-config one somewhere...18:37
clarkbno thats not the lsat of it, need the project config which is xxxx4218:37
greghaynesyea, I grabbed wrong one18:38
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clarkband/or my change to just shorten the hostnames18:38
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Clintanteaya: there isn't any in the repo; you would have to add it.  not sure it's worth it over an erb or whatever18:39
anteayayeah trying to add the augeas means there would be two things I don't understand and would get wrong18:39
anteayatrying to limit it to one at a time18:39
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Drop from slave hostnames
anteayadevkulkarni: please add the url of your patch to
devkulkarnianteaya: will do. thanks for the info18:40
clarkb is the concurrent fix now with correct depends on18:40
clarkbsdague: greghaynes mordred ^18:40
greghaynesyea, either way works for me18:40
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greghaynesboth would be nice18:40
openstackgerritDavide Agnello proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adding RALLY_SCENARIO venv for Cue job
clarkbya both is double good18:40
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anteayadevkulkarni: and I commented on the patch, it needs a link in the commit message to the governance patchset, I gave you the syntax18:41
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pabelangerfungi, clarkb any specific reason for the lack of nodes today?  Didn't see any discussion about it unless I missed the obvious18:41
sdagueclarkb: yeh, well I only have +2 on one of those changes.18:41
clarkbpabelanger: hpcloud is returning ClientException Unknown Error HTTP 500 when launching nodes18:41
pabelangerclarkb, thanks18:42
clarkbpabelanger: so thats the reason but it is currently an "Unknown error"18:42
devkulkarnianteaya: sounds good. thanks for looking into this so quickly18:42
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sdagueclarkb: so can you take a +2 swipe at -  ?18:43
sdaguedo we also need a node rebuild after that point?18:44
clarkbsdague: yes once 199741s new nodes are in plcae18:44
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sdagueI'm trying to figure out when there is a hope the multinode grenade job will return something interesting18:44
clarkbdon't need a rebuild, just need those new labels to show up18:44
sdagueclarkb: ok, cool18:44
anteayadevkulkarni: thanks18:45
devkulkarnianteaya: thanks to you!18:46
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sdagueclarkb et al: after some long conversation in the qa channel, we came up with the following -
sdaguewhich is turn off the neutron adv services in the grenade jobs18:47
anteayacan someone with root tell me if review/review-dev has a file /etc/logrotate.d/apache2 and if yes could you paste the contents if it is safe to do so?18:47
sdaguebecause the upgrade path is kind of different with all the different services than the one tree, and doesn't currently work. So this would free those projects up to build a grenade plugin if they wanted to do upgrade testing.18:47
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mordredclarkb: lgtm18:48
openstackgerritdevdatta-kulkarni proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Rename stackforge/solum -> openstack/solum
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davideagnellohello, Cue team would ask for this patch merged:  We are trying to get our Rally jobs running in gate and finding small issues on each step :)18:50
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openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove p26 job from DIB
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clarkbwe should consider killing hpcloud temporarily as I think rax alone may do better18:55
clarkbalso no incident on the hpcloud status page18:55
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tqtranwhen yall have some time, would appreciate reviews on, thanks!18:57
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mordredclarkb: yeah. I coudl see that as a possible choice18:58
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clarkbI am about to try doing nova status on some of these failed nodes see if I can get more info18:59
anteayaclarkb: yes, thought dfw isn't doing really well at the moment either18:59
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Always use gate- instead of check- (l-n*)
clarkbin other news I am about to alias ssh to ssh -4 because ipv6 is very unhappy. Sad considering all the IPs are gone19:00
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AJaegertqtran: please tell us what the change is about so that those people that have knowledge about it will review it - and not other look it up, figure out it's not relevant for them and then ignore it...19:01
clarkbwe are also getting ssh timeout errors on some rax nodes19:02
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tqtranAJaeger: got it, i'll provide more descriptions19:02
fungiclarkb: my isp's answer to ipv6 is still an opt-in tunnel from your cpe to a 6rd gateway at/near their border. so not much better than just doing gre to hurricane electric19:03
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clarkbfungi: comcast does it all natively and by default which is cool19:03
clarkbI just wish it worked more reliably19:03
clarkblooks like dfw has quota issues19:03
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fungiclarkb: all the worse because they only provide a /64 and my prefix is not stable, it's calculated from my dhcp-assigned ipv4 address19:04
fungiclarkb: recent quota issues in rax seem to be that nodepool tries to delete nodes, rax fails to cull them, and still counts them toward our quota even though nova shows them in a delete state19:05
clarkbfungi: fun19:05
clarkb(to both things)19:05
krotscheckOh goody19:05
fungiclarkb: so that probably implies a need for some re-logic'ing in nodepool19:05
Sam-I-Amfungi: pretty sure my isp does the same funky tunnel thing, and only a 64... so i continue to use HE19:05
clarkbI think I get a /64 too but thats still larger than all of ipv4 space so meh19:06
Sam-I-Amfungi: my old isp did some half-assed PD that didnt work19:06
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fungiSam-I-Am: i used he for a static /48 for years, and am pretty decided i'm going to just switch back to that19:06
AJaegerkrotscheck: no need to add me to your reviews, I'll review them eventually...19:06
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Sam-I-Amits the way to go. i have a /48 connected to a cloud server so i can delegate prefixes to my lab. the instance itself has a /64 which isnt useful.19:07
Sam-I-Ami wish i could get a /48 from rax19:07
clarkboh cool mtr says my router is what is broken19:07
krotscheckAJaeger: Alright, I'll skip you in my passive-aggressive hey-you-should-review-this :)19:07
krotscheckAJaeger: Not everyone is as on top of reviews as you are.19:07
AJaegerkrotscheck: thanks19:08
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fungiSam-I-Am: yeah, rax's flat networking is sort of unfortunate for ipv6 use cases19:09
clarkbmordred: we are getting a lot of unable to find public ip errors from rax too19:09
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clarkbmordred: thats a shade thing to sort out iirc19:10
rhe00_How do I update nodepool to the latest version?19:10
clarkbdoes a server.get("public_v4") in nodepool so maybe not a shade thing19:10
clarkbrhe00_: pip install -U /path/to/nodepool/repo19:11
openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack/requirements: Updated oslo.middleware to >=2.4.0
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clarkbnova show on the 500'd nodes shows it up and active and happy19:12
clarkbso thats fun19:12
greghaynesclarkb: yea, all we do with share right now is images19:12
greghayneser, shade19:12
openstackgerritThai Tran proposed openstack/requirements: Adding angular-gettext to global requirements
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/subunit2sql: Update the run_time graph image in docs
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/subunit2sql: Cleanup dailycount graph subunit2sql-graph command
krotscheckfungi: Once you can come up for a breather, I'm around to help land/test the NPM credential patch ->
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pabelangerjeblair, when you have a moment, I'd like to get your thoughts about adding the host trystack.o.o spec into tomorrows -infra meetings.  I think it is ready to be voted on19:19
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lifelessdolphm: ?19:20
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dolphmlifeless: wasn't sure who to ping, but i assumed you put together the summit registration form on eventbrite?19:20
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mordredclarkb: yah - although once we do start using shade for servers - we have _much_ more comprehensive "find the ip address" code19:21
lifelesssdague: mriedem: fungi: its order stable, and we can (and will) offer a patch to packaging to make it aesthetically pleasing order stable.19:21
lifelessdolphm: I have /nothing/ to do with that19:21
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lifelessdolphm: I don't know who does19:21
mordredclarkb: of course, if nova show 500s, there is little shade will be able to do to help :)19:21
lifelessdolphm: possibly someone in infra-core ?19:21
lifelessdolphm: possibly someone in the foundation?19:22
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dolphmlifeless: hrm. i thought i saw your name on the registration codes that went out, so i figured you'd be close to the right person19:22
lifelesswow I hope not19:22
lifelesscause I'm going to be super useless at helping :)19:22
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Remove from default hostname values
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clarkbmordred: not sure if yo uwant to talk to hpcloud or if I shoul dfile a ticket19:23
mordreddolphm: fungi19:23
clarkbmordred: but we seem ot have 500 errors for node sthat are fine19:23
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clarkboh wait19:23
clarkbits for floating ips19:23
jeblairclarkb, mordred: alternative to is
mordredfloating ips are sucha  good idea19:23
clarkbso let me dig into floating ip situation a bit more19:23
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clarkbwe are at 604 floating ips19:24
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dolphmmordred: bah, thanks. lifeless: sorry, it was totally fungi!19:24
clarkbso we have likely leaked them19:24
mordredclarkb: sweet19:25
clarkblet me find and run the script to clean the leaks up19:25
jesusaurusclarkb: fwiw im not seeing any errors19:25
clarkbjesusaurus: ya the errors are due to leaked floating ips19:26
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clarkbnow instead of getting 500 unknown error it would be amazing if nova/neutron could say "you are out of quota"19:26
jesusaurusah, yeah19:26
clarkbbecause you know thats the actual problem and it is knowable19:26
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mordredclarkb: bah19:26
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mordredclarkb: then you would not have any fun in diagnosing!19:27
clarkb`venv/bin/neutron floatingip-list | grep -v '10\.0\.' | sed -e '1,3d' -e '$d' | cut -d'|' -f 2 | xargs -n 1 -P 1 venv/bin/neutron floatingip-delete` is running now19:27
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jeblairpabelanger: i agree it's ready and should be added to the agenda19:28
pabelangerjeblair, thanks, adding now19:28
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clarkbalso I got ratelimited at -P 1 so will make a second pass when the first is complete19:29
fungidolphm: to answer your question, no i did not put together the registration form. the marketing team provided me the wording for the e-mail, the conference organizers gave me the list of discount codes to insert, and then i generated a list of e-mail addresses for contributors since kilo release day and did the actual mass mailing. i have no idea who made the registration form but can find out for19:29
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clarkbalso this is the problem with rate limits, its really hard to coordinate that across all potential users of a user19:29
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dolphmfungi: is there someone on the marketing team i can contact about a bug in the registration form?19:30
dolphmfungi: i'm assuming email will be the best way to reach them19:31
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fungidolphm: probably the event coordination team actually, but i will find out. a bunch of them are in tokyo on pre-summit business so not sure who will answer quickly. asking now19:31
fungidolphm: is the bug at an url site or an url site?19:34
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mtreinishdolphm: the developer thing?19:34
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clarkbrax-iad just gave an eoferror in the nova client19:36
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fungithat's always exciting19:38
sdaguefungi: it's a bug in the eventbrite form19:38
sdaguethis is a mandatory field that shouldn't be19:38
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fungisdague: dolphm: thanks--i'm getting appropriate contacts now19:39
arosenHi, quick question. I'm noticing this change to requirements.txt specifying  python_version=2.7 is breaking pbr i think.19:39
arosen+ovs>=2.4.0.dev0;python_version=='2.7' # Apache-2.019:40
kzaitsev_mbI might be asking a dumb question, but is it ok, that jobs are taking so long for openstack-infra/project-config ?19:40
arosencauses me to get the error:     error in setup command: Invalid environment marker: (python_version=='2.7' # Apache-2.0)19:40
clarkbarosen: your version of pbr is too old, update to latest19:40
openstackgerritSergey Vilgelm proposed openstack/requirements: Bump 1.9.0 to oslo.utils
AJaegerkzaitsev_mb: known issue, please have patience while we fix it19:40
clarkbok leaked fips are gone19:41
arosenclarkb:  i did pip install -U pbr and same thing?19:41
clarkbwe have about 360 in use now19:41
dolphmfungi: eventbrite19:41
clarkbarosen: then something is downgrading the version for you19:41
fungidolphm: sdague: someone needs to e-mail with the relevant details for the form issue and it will open a zendesk ticket, then someone with access to fix it will pick it up fairly quickly19:41
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dolphmfungi: perfect, thanks!19:41
fungithis is per someone who knows waaay more about our event coordination than i ever want to ;)19:42
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dolphmfungi: understandably :) email is sent!19:43
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: Use oslotest 1.9.0
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* mordred hands Clint goggles19:45
* Clint wears the goggles19:46
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svilgelmIs there anyone from the requirements-core team?19:46
mordredsvilgelm: yup19:46
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svilgelmmordred: i need the second +2 for the patch :)19:47
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svilgelmplease :)19:48
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anteayaClint: you are the only one I've seen get something useful19:50
anteayaeveryone else gets animals in various states of moistness19:51
Clintis that good or bad19:51
openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed openstack/requirements: Bump oslo.cache to 0.3.0
svilgelmthanks Sean19:51
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sdaguesvilgelm: no worries, seemed reasonable19:53
openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack-infra/puppet-gerrit: Set apache to retain one month of logs
anteayaClint: I don't know, but you have something useful19:54
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openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack-infra/puppet-gerrit: Set apache to retain one month of logs
openstackgerritDaniel Gonzalez Nothnagel proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add experimental jobs for multi-region testing
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anteayaEmilienM nibalizer crinkle if any of you are available for some puppet guidance I'm grateful:
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kzaitsev_mbAJaeger: sorry, got distracted. =) thanks for answering! Will paitently wait for resolution =)20:00
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eharneywhen can i expect this experimental job which merged over the weekend to start running?
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support to reverse trigger for job list
anteayaeharney: experimental jobs require you to add a comment to a patch with the contents check experimental20:03
anteayaexperimental jobs have to be manually triggered20:03
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eharneyanteaya: oh right... i knew that at some point :)20:03
anteayaif you do that and the job doesn't run, then we have a problem20:03
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openstackgerritdevdatta-kulkarni proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Rename stackforge/solum -> openstack/solum
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: xunit: Add support for Google Test
Clintanteaya: sorry, i commented on the wrong patchset20:05
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anteayaClint: np, knowing me I put up a flurry of patchsets20:07
anteayaa veritable buffet20:07
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: Adding openstack/anchor to projects.txt
anteayaClint: actually I don't see any comment from you on just a -120:11
anteayaperhaps your comment is still a draft?20:12
Clintanteaya: argh20:12
Clinthow'd that happen?20:12
anteayaI submitted another patchset while you were mid review20:12
anteayaso your comment is a draft on patchset 1 but you reviewed patchset 220:13
anteayaits my fault20:13
Clintso my apology was even more correct than previously thought20:13
anteayapresentient and all that20:13
anteayaso I can't see your comment yet20:13
Clintit's on patchset 120:14
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anteayanow I see them20:14
Clintno, it is20:14
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anteayaas first comment I'll just impliment what you say20:14
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jeblairclarkb: did you see ?20:15
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openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack-infra/puppet-gerrit: Set apache to retain one month of logs
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openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack/requirements: Updated oslo.middleware to >=2.4.0
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add deprication warning in documentation
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kzaitsev_mbMay I ask someone for a bit of help with adding periodic jobs to murano project?20:20
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kzaitsev_mbI'm really confused with what I should do to make things work. Is there a doc or something I should read before asking questions though?20:22
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openstackgerritMin Pae proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: updating cue team meeting date
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anteayakzaitsev_mb: have you read yet?20:23
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clarkbjeblair: yes I have seen it now20:27
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sdakefyi when people submit talks, it doesn't pull their bio from the speakers bio stored on for new talks20:28
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sdakeit has empty data it appears20:29
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clarkbjeblair: I think that change breaks the docs quoting20:29
clarkbjeblair: checking the rendered output now20:29
clarkboh there isn't anything rendered yet20:30
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clarkbjeblair: reviewed20:30
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clarkbok nodepool node graph looks much saner post fip cleaing20:35
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clarkbwe have an ubuntu-trusty node read now so I am going to approve the project-config change to use it20:39
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mfalaticMagnum's gate is broken and I've got an open bug to look into it... can I get some eyes on it?
openstackLaunchpad bug 1473600 in OpenStack-Gate "Gate builds are suddenly failing due to possible authentication issues early in the process" [Undecided,New]20:59
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Use the 1.16.0 version of the oslo.messaging library
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openstackgerritSergey Vilgelm proposed openstack/requirements: Bump oslo.log to 1.6.0 version
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Use ubuntu-trusty for multi-node tests
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clarkbsdague: once zuul layout and jenkins jobs are updated (next puppet run) we can recheck or rerun multinode tests21:16
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anteayawent for a walk and got shot at21:34
anteayaoooooo so much fun with all the tourists21:34
anteayapeople think guns are toys21:34
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anteayaand their responsibility ends whereever the target sits21:34
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Remove from default hostname values
jeblairclarkb: ^21:35
anteayaand who shoots sitting down in a plastic chair21:35
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anteayawarned my neighbours and next time they get to talk to the police21:35
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Clintanteaya: can you explain to me what the NOT_REGISTERED is all about in ?21:36
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lifelessNakato: good morning :)21:37
anteayaClint: sure right after I get it disabled21:38
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anteayacan someone please disable gerrit account id 16660
clarkbI can do it if/when back to laptop if no one else gets it first21:41
anteayathanks clarkb21:41
anteayaClint: so while we wait, that account is a third party ci account running its own jobs not any infra ci jobs21:42
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anteayaNOT_REGISTERED can come from a few different sources but basically it means that zuul and jenkins don't have either an effective line of communication or agreement on what they should be doing21:43
anteayafor instance21:43
anteayaif gearman goes sideways we can get NOT_REGISTERED because zuul can't find the jenkins node21:44
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anteayaor if zuul thinks the job needs a precise node and jenkins is told it runs on a trusty node that can be the message21:44
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Clintoh, so it means no gearman worker registered?21:45
anteayaI'm disabling this ci account to prevent it from continuing to post NOT_REGISTERED on patches as it is indicative of an internal error, the information has no value on the patch21:45
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anteayaClint: thank you for asking, I appreciate it21:46
jeblairClint: specifically, no gearman worker registered that job (or that job+node combo) since the gearman server started21:46
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jeblairClint: (i think that should cover all of the cases anteaya noted)21:47
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krotscheckThere's an infra puppet project with no cores. I'm not certain what the program policy is for that, can someone with the rights and knowledge update this?,access21:48
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anteayaI think that was supposed to be infra-core and got missed:,members21:51
clarkbmordred sdague
anteayaand there they are21:51
jeblairkrotscheck, anteaya: done (i have a script for it:
krotscheckjeblair: danke, will ping the refstack team.21:51
clarkbits still failing niw to see if its a new fail21:52
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jeblairclarkb, greghaynes, mordred: can someone give me the sitrep on dib-nodepool?21:52
clarkbno rsync :|21:53
clarkbjeblair we can upload images for ubuntu trusty to rax and hpcloud that boot21:53
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clarkbiirc centos7 do not boot properly21:53
mordredyup. and we just updated the 2-node config to start using them21:53
clarkband trusty is brojen with ^21:53
mordredclarkb: wait - trusty is broken with?21:54
clarkbsee above21:54
mordredoh. interesting21:54
Nakatolifeless: Morning21:54
clarkbminumal is too mininal21:54
clarkbwe really need nit minimal21:54
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mordredclarkb: minimal is the exact amount of minimal - our puppet doesn't declare what it needs21:54
clarkbI disagree to an extent21:55
clarkbiurc no vi(m) either21:55
SpamapS <-- we should point that at OpenStack21:55
anteayajeblair: will your patch create an infra-puppet-core and infra-puppet-release team?21:55
mordredyah - but we install that via puppet21:55
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SpamapSfor the lols21:55
clarkbmini al should ve useable21:55
clarkbwithout puppet21:55
mordredI think that is useable21:55
jeblairanteaya: no they exist already21:55
anteayaI didn't find them21:55
lifelessNakato: I'm pondering if we can move the tox thing forward21:55
mordredbut - I don't feel SUPER strongly about it and would be happy to add vim-minimal and rsync to the images21:56
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anteayaI don't have permission to view that page21:56
clarkbit didnt have sshd either iirc21:56
mordredwell, that's a bug for sure21:56
jeblairanteaya: fixed21:57
lifelessmordred: can I get a +2A on ?21:57
anteayacan someone please disable gerrit account id 16660
clarkbbasically a server needs to be login able, with an editor that isnt nano, and have the ability to copy files around21:57
mordredsince we install sshd_config files :)21:57
anteayajeblair: thanks21:57
mordredclarkb: I can get behind that, sure21:57
mordredin fact, a server probably shoudl not have nano installed :)21:57
jeblairanything that we depend on we should declare21:58
mordredbut also that21:58
jeblairso regardless of anything else, we should add sshd and rsync21:58
jeblairif you21:58
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jeblairif you _also_ want to bikeshed about what should be in minimal (or "opinionated-minimal"), that's fine :)21:59
mordredjeblair: how about I make a patch to do both things21:59
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jeblairmordred: wfm21:59
mordredadd sshd and rsync to the image, and to puppet - and then the puppet addition of them will be a no-op and the world will be hapy21:59
clarkbsshd is in puppet already fwiw22:00
jeblairso back to the sitrep -- does that mean we're not using ubuntu-trusty for anything yet?22:00
clarkbwe are using it for multinide22:00
clarkband its still broken22:00
mordredbecuase of missing rsync22:00
jeblairah i see; did we prematurely switch multinode to it?22:00
clarkband unsure if the hostname is fixed because rsync fails first22:00
jeblairwe switched multinode to it to use glean because of the hostname problem?22:01
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mordredjeblair: not really - multi-node was broken anyway22:01
clarkbmaybe the jobs are broken otherwise so its not a regression22:01
mordredso we just need to get rsync on there and we'll be further along22:01
jeblairare we using any other dib images yet?22:01
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mordrednope. as soon a we've got multi-node squared, I'm going to re-submit the patch for single-node-devstack to move22:02
clarkbwe are22:02
mordredjeblair: which is a merge-conflict-bait patch22:02
clarkball devstack in hpcloud is dib22:02
mordredclarkb: he means the new dib stuff22:02
clarkber all precise+trusry devstack22:02
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jeblairmordred: there's new and old dib stuff?22:03
anteayacan anyone ssh into gerrit and disable account 16660 please?
mordredjeblair: yah22:03
mordredjeblair: there's the old dib stuff which has been running in hpcloud for ages22:03
mordredthere is the new dib stuff which is ubuntu-minimal/glean based which we did to support rax22:03
jeblairmordred: what's the difference between old and new dib stuff?22:03
mordredwe are very close to moving the devstack-trusty things to use ubuntu-trusty at which point we'll be on new-dib22:04
jeblairanteaya: done22:04
anteayajeblair: thank you22:04
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kozhukalovplease review this patch
jeblairmordred, clarkb:
Nakatolifeless: Yea, what I'm currently working through the second part of your comment on the review, WRT Depends-On.22:05
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Make sure rsync is always installed
mordredclarkb, jeblair: ^^22:09
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openstackgerritMerged stackforge/python-jenkins: Fix tests on python 2.6 and mark as deprecated
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lifelessNakato: cool22:20
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sigmavirus24lifeless: thoughts on the use of epochs for the new openstack versions?22:23
sigmavirus24(other than, pbr doesn't (yet) support that)22:23
lifelesssigmavirus24: having to use shell escape characters is going to be a PITA22:24
lifelesssigmavirus24: I'd really rather not have to22:24
sigmavirus24echo '1!12.0.0'22:25
sigmavirus24lifeless: I mean, we can just version everything the wrong way22:25
sigmavirus24just for conveniences on the shell that modern shells will autoescape for you22:25
lifelesssigmavirus24: you did ask for thoughts :)22:25
sigmavirus24I didn't say I was opposed. I am after all a lazy person :D22:26
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mordredsigmavirus24: I would like to avoid them22:28
sigmavirus24mordred: why?22:29
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mordredsigmavirus24: it will save a small number of people pain (and honestly only theorectical pain at that) at the cost of making version numbers crazy for the vast majority of everyone else22:29
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sigmavirus24mordred: "theoretical" pain is not even remotely theoretical22:30
sigmavirus24The only way to upgrade from 2015.1.0 to 8.0.0 is to uninstall the package and then install ==8.0.022:30
sigmavirus24That's pain22:30
mordredthat's not true22:30
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mordredyou have two choices:22:30
mordreda) pip install -U nova==8.0.022:30
mordredb) make a distro package with an epoch in it22:30
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Remove the product team meeting
mordredthe python package does not need an epoch in it22:31
clarkbor make a new venv22:31
mordredright. or that22:31
sigmavirus24clarkb: and if you're not operating in venvs?22:31
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mordredthen just do a force install one time with the new version22:31
clarkbright do what mordred said22:31
mordredyes - it's annoying22:31
sigmavirus24"one time" lol22:31
harlowja_we sure do like making peoples lives full of 'fun'22:31
sigmavirus24So how does this make version numbers crazy for the vast majority of everyone else though?22:32
mordredright. I get it - it's going to be an annoying patch to write to your puppet/chef/ansible/salt22:32
sigmavirus24That's the thing no one has explained yet22:32
mordredsigmavirus24: because they're unusable without quoting22:32
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mordredsigmavirus24: _Eveyrone_ will now have to install 'nova==1!8.0.0' until the end of time22:32
mordredand will have to deal with that !22:32
mordredto avoid some people having to do an explicit force install once22:32
sigmavirus24mordred: if anyone has a version string with a blacklisted version they already do that22:32
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mordredsigmavirus24: sure. but I'm not talking about those people - I'm talking about normal default operation22:33
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harlowja_mordred well that makes me feel that we shouldn't of then screwed up the versions, but bygones be bygones (or other famous bob marley quote), and this is a 'blunder' that we should imho fix 'right'22:34
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mordredI understand the theory of fixing it 'right - I REALLY do I promose22:34
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mordredbut it's going to cause ongoing pain22:34
mordredto chase "correctness"22:34
harlowja_we need that imho :-P22:34
sigmavirus24"It worked in Devstack" right?22:34
mordredso yeah - it's going to be a really crappy transition for some folks - but then it'll be over and we will not have to carry the cosst of it for the next 10 years22:35
harlowja_then i don't need to fight off comments like and stuff22:35
mordredwhich is what we'd have to do if we add a ! into our tarball filenames22:35
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harlowja_*if we just focused on doing it right :-/22:35
lifelesssigmavirus24: just FTR - you can downgrade without -U: pip install foo==$version will downgrade or upgrade foo as needed.22:35
mordredharlowja_: dude. haters gonna hate22:35
harlowja_mordred i know, still22:36
sigmavirus24lifeless: right, but we shouldn't be forcing people to pin versions for upgrades22:36
sigmavirus24we should let the tooling handle choosing the right version for the upgrade22:36
mordredsigmavirus24: sure. but this time we're going to22:36
mordredwe're going to do it once22:36
mordredrather than having people have to go through contortions to handle our tarballs22:36
mordredor _any_ time in the future they want to use something22:36
lifelesssigmavirus24: I'm not getting into this argument :).22:37
mordredand we'll apologize - because we are all sorry for the pain - but we're not going to make the problem better by introducing lasting pain on top of it22:37
sigmavirus24mordred: the lasting pain has already been introduced - flipping back and forth between version schemes22:37
mordredsigmavirus24: nope. that's a one-time pain22:37
mordredthe lasting pain would be adding a !22:37
harlowja_maybe we should of versioned everything starting at 2500.x or something, lol22:38
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Reformat docstrings for SCM
sigmavirus24mordred: no, I mean, this is doubtful the last time openstack will jump ship on a versioning scheme22:38
clarkbI wanted 900022:38
sigmavirus24picking one and sticking to it would be great22:38
sigmavirus24clarkb: 9001 or bust22:38
sigmavirus24do I hear 9005?22:38
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harlowja_let me call in an expert22:38
lifelesssigmavirus24: because:- we dont' need to change anything at all. If we're going to have a debate about 'right', just reving 2015 -> 2016 as semver would be least effort and 'correct'22:39
lifelesssigmavirus24: and its a sociological discussion that drove the current release managers team discussion about this22:39
harlowja_lifeless hey u supposed to stay out of this, lol22:40
lifelesssigmavirus24: so a technical discussion about changing their decision is kindof beside the point: there are tradeoffs all around22:40
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sigmavirus24lifeless: sure, but as long as we're versioning things semantically, we may as well go full hog too22:41
sigmavirus24epoch's are the semantic checkmate22:41
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openstackgerritFatih Degirmenci proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: Add support for Jenkins Safe Restart
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support for more extensions and options in Git plugin
openstackgerritKirill Zaitsev proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add periodic kilo & juno jobs to murano
sigmavirus24Btw, am I the only person who uses tab completion that does escaping for me?22:45
sigmavirus24Just wondering22:45
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sigmavirus24or are we talking about automated shell scripts that should have been quoting things properly in the first place?22:47
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/infra-specs: Centralize Release Tagging
mordredno. I'm talking mostly about huamns22:47
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/infra-specs: cleanups for centralize-release-tagging
mordredI understand the theory - but I continue to think it is an area where the "correct" theory is more harmful in the long run. _most_ people have no clue what 1!8.0.0 means.22:47
harlowja_they can read the PEP :-P22:48
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mordredand when you combine that with the fact that we're _not_ talking about the debian archive here22:48
sigmavirus24I think you're underestimating people's ability to learn22:48
sigmavirus24And I'm not sure if I should be offended or not22:48
anteayaI think you are underestimating people's ability to deal with being overwhelmed22:48
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anteayapeople are really really overwhelmed22:48
anteayaand change for change sake is not going over well22:49
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sigmavirus24anteaya: I agree that change for change sake is never good22:49
anteayaintelligent people are no longer able to communicate because there is too much change between their understandings22:49
sigmavirus24This isn't change for changes sake though22:49
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anteayatake the temperature of the projects22:49
anteayatalk to folks22:50
anteayathey don't have a lot of room left for change22:50
anteayamost of them are head down trying to make their project work22:50
anteayano periferal vision left at all22:50
mordredI'm pretty sure none of us are going to convince each other on this point. it's a difference of opinion, I understand why someone has a different opinion than I do22:50
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openstackgerritFatih Degirmenci proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: Add support for Jenkins Safe Restart
sigmavirus24mordred: as do I22:50
mordredbut I'm pretty firm in my position that the confusion and complexity of the ! is not worth the benefit22:51
mordredas much as I grok that others hold the opposite opinion22:51
* sigmavirus24 should be finding a food source for dinner22:51
mordredsigmavirus24: dinner is always the right choice22:51
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jeblairShrews, mordred: i just approved   mordred I think you had some suggested changes... maybe you can write them as a followup patch?22:52
jeblair(something about keystone?)22:53
mordredjeblair: ++22:53
mordredjeblair: I can do that22:53
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clarkbjeblair can you review 201354?22:54
clarkbwrong change22:54
Shrewsjeblair: umm, ok? maybe you meant SpamapS22:54
jeblairShrews: yep i did22:54
jeblairShrews: i addressed that comment to "capital s tab"22:55
ShrewsSpamapS: mordred: jeblair: is ret-to-go and could use +A22:55
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openstackgerritMadhusudhan Kandadai proposed openstack-infra/project-config: New jobs for neutron-lbaasv2 scenario tests
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Initial documentation for infra-cloud
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openstackgerritFatih Degirmenci proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: Add support for Jenkins Safe Shutdown
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jeblairjhesketh: good morning; i revised zuulv3 spec again, and answered some of your concerns, though some of them i have answered by kicking things down the road (we're close to the limit of what i can see without actually trying to write some code).  i think those all relate to things we can tweak later and not fundamental decisions that we absolutely must make now...23:05
jeblairjhesketh: let me know if want to chat some more23:06
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jheskethjeblair: cool23:06
anteayamorning jhesketh23:06
jheskethYep, that's fair, more than happy to iterate on it later if we need23:06
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jheskethI'll take a look later, but I suspect it'll be good :-)23:07
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pvaneckHi infra core. Can this get some reviews. It just adds a .gitreview file and fixes lint issues in a recently added puppet project23:16
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davideagnellohello, Cue team is looking to get this patch merged:
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Make sure rsync is always installed
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Separate out custom yaml tags into separate classes
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support lazy resolving of include yaml tags
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tqtranlifeless, AJaeger, clarkb: updated with description reviews are appreciated, thanks!23:38
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gyeegot stuck on the 2-factor "verification code" page, do I need to email the ubuntu one people to reset my code?23:42
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anteayagot stuck?23:46
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anteayathe page didn't load for you properly? you forgot your password?23:46
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anteayawhat happened?23:46
gyeeI got stuck on the verification prompt23:47
gyeecan't delete my device, can't reset code23:47
gyeebasically can't do anything23:47
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openstackgerritFatih Degirmenci proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: Add support for Jenkins Safe Shutdown
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openstackgerritFatih Degirmenci proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: Add support for Jenkins Safe Restart
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lifelessNakato: is there any input or support you need ?23:49
gyeeanteaya, strangely only is prompting me for verification code, works fine23:49
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lifelessgyee: you're triggering enhanced verification for some reason on LP23:50
lifelessgyee: you'll need to see support from canonical-isd to recover your 2fa settings23:50
gyeelifeless, I don't know, I would love to opt-out of 2-factor if I could23:50
gyee2-factor for open source work is non-sense23:51
lifelessgyee: you can, but - you need to speak to canonical-isd's helpdesk23:51
Nakatolifeless: Mainly just trying to understand what zull does when there's a "Depends-On", so if there's anyone I can chat to on that, that would be the biggiest help at the moment.23:51
lifelessgyee: since the LP team don't maintain the IdP23:51
lifelessNakato: clarkb perhaps?23:51
gyeelifeless, k, let me email them, thanks for the advice!23:51
clarkbI am mostly here23:51
lifelessgyee: well, I disagree with you there on 2fa being useful in open source work, but thats a different discussion23:52
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clarkbNakato zuul makes a git ref for the two changes merged into their respective target branches that is checked out for testing23:53
clarkbthat way using a single unique identifier you can build proper trees across all repos23:53
gyeelifeless, anyway, I am requesting for opt-out, unless HP lawyers ask me to be a "team player" :)23:54
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clarkbit is up to the jobs themselves to use the repos and refs properly zuul-cloner ahould make this easy23:56
lifelessclarkb: Nakato is working on constraints support for tox jobs23:56
lifelessNakato: might be worth pointing clarkb at your example changeset for requirements23:57
Nakatoclarkb: So it just checks the other repo out somewhere on the testing machine, then leaves it for other parts to deal with using it?  Do you happen to know what the script used for the cloaning is called on the systems, might give me a place to jump to on working down the path.23:57
clarkbno it doesnt check anything out, it only constructs the ref23:58
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clarkbthen you/the job have to fetch and checkout that ref across the appropriate projects. the prescribed way to do this step is with the zuul-cloner utility23:59

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