Thursday, 2015-07-09

fungiokay, i stand corrected. tcpdump _does_ show me reaching git.o.o00:00
fungii think haproxy is simply not able to get the right content from the backends00:00
jeblairtelnet 808000:00
jeblairTrying 2001:4800:7817:101:3bc3:d7f6:ff05:81fa...00:00
jeblairtelnet: connect to address 2001:4800:7817:101:3bc3:d7f6:ff05:81fa: Connection refused00:00
jeblairtelnet: connect to address Connection refused00:00
jeblairfrom git.o.o ^00:00
clarkbany sprint changes?00:01
jeblairclarkb: yes indeed00:01
fungino httpd running on git backends00:01
clarkbI bet apache 2.4 change broke us00:02
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: Revert "Updated config for CentOS 7 and Apache 2.4"
jeblairclarkb, fungi: ^00:02
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jeblairfwiw, that passed the centos6 apply check00:03
jeblairso probably syntactically correct, but logically wrong00:03
fungiokay, also the "wrong content" is my fault. the socket was closing so fast that my 'GET / HTTP/1.1' was calling /usr/bin/GET on my system (provided by libwww-perl... has that always been a thing?!?)00:03
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fungithe GET command (again wtf?!?) also returns some very interesting javascript and other garbage along with your root filesystem directory listing00:04
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fungiso anyway, my paranoia levels are dropping back to approaching sanity, or as close as they normally manage anyway00:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: Revert "Updated config for CentOS 7 and Apache 2.4"
jeblairinstamerged ^00:05
fungiyeah, there was no way that was going to pass jobs with the git servers offline00:05
clarkbit might have00:06
fungialso we may need to manually apply it?00:06
clarkbbecause git:// works00:06
patrickeasthey uh, i am getting spammed by a ci system from
clarkbbut ansible likely needs hand holding00:06
patrickeastcan someone turn it off?00:06
openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/system-config: use updated jenkins_master.pp manifest
jeblairi'm running ansible on puppetmaster00:06
patrickeasti didnt see nikeshm online
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jeblairwhich may fail because it can't update the puppetmodule from git.o.o00:07
anteayapatrickeast: which ci?00:07
asselinVedams-HPMSA FCISCSIDriver CI00:07
patrickeastanteaya: ^00:07
asselinanteaya, fungi should turn that off quick ^^00:07
patrickeastlooks like its pretty borked00:07
asselin~20 comments/minute00:08
jeblairi have manually updated the puppet-cgit repo00:08
fungianteaya: patrickeast: done00:08
anteayathank you00:08
patrickeastfungi: thanks!00:08
anteayapatrickeast asselin it will take a while for the cache to clear00:08
anteayaunless we restart gerrit00:08
fungii've got a flush-caches running right now00:09
anteayafungi: thanks00:09
anteayalet's hope that kills it00:09
anteayaaccount 16941 for the record:
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anteayapatrickeast asselin
jeblairhrm, i think ansible will continue to fail because of the project-config update00:13
jeblairfungi, clarkb: i think we'll need to manually repair00:14
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anteayaour inbound eth1 traffic on review.o.o has spiked:
anteayasame as last time this happened00:15
clarkbif you get one up haproxy should work again00:15
clarkbso just one host manually00:16
anteayaspiked and come down, perhaps flush caches is effective00:16
fungihttpd: Syntax error on line 154 of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf: Cannot load /etc/httpd/modules/ into server: /etc/httpd/modules/ cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory00:16
asselinanteaya, not sure why that happened to nikesh....he's using the same ci setup as me...00:16
anteayaasselin: glad you know this person00:17
jeblairfungi: yeah, i'm working through a manual revert on git0100:17
jeblairit kind of looks like IfVersion isn't supported by this version of apache00:17
anteayaasselin: hopefully they will make contact and we can get to the bottom of this, it isn't great if this keeps happening00:17
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anteayaasselin: no recheck syntax in the comment I see, so that isn't it00:18
asselinanteaya, yeah, we met in vancouver.00:18
anteayaasselin: good00:18
openstackgerritStanislaw Pitucha proposed openstack/requirements: Minimal setuptools required for tests
jeblairokay git01 is up00:18
harlowja_intersting, anyone seen
harlowja_looks questionable :-P00:18
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asselinanteaya, I'm also curious.....00:19
lifelessharlowja_: see backscroll00:19
harlowja_niciria fail?00:20
harlowja_(if rackspace is still using nicria/nsx, whatever its called now)00:20
fungiharlowja_: broken configuration applied to our git servers00:20
jeblairi'm manually fixing the others00:21
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fungiso for whatever reason, the <IfVersion >= 2.4> container is ignored in the apache version running on centos 600:22
openstackgerritMikhail S Medvedev proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Add generic logstash manifests
jeblairfungi: okay, all manually repaired and running00:23
clarkb  probably added the clause to 2.400:23
clarkboh no hrm00:23
fungiclarkb: the apache docs don't say so, and their examples show matching on old 2.1 versions even00:24
clarkbis mod version installed?00:24
fungii bet that's the bug00:24
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jeblairso i think things are stable now; my original failed ansipuppet run is still going; when it is done, i'll trigger another which should hopefully work00:25
fungiit does indeed look like you need mod_version enabled to be able to use IfVersion containers00:25
jeblairand it just finished, so i've kicked off the next run00:25
fungithanks jeblair!00:25
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jeblairneat, it's changing vcsrepo :)00:25
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clarkbmaybe we should cobgrol the blocks in puppet?00:27
clarkbif 6 then 2.2 if 7 then 2.400:27
jeblairseems safer and makes for cleaner config files00:28
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openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/puppet-askbot: Add Gemfile and puppet 4 checks
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fungiapache's fallback of "lets just ignore your version restrictions if you don't have support for version inspection loaded" is sort of unsafe00:30
fungithen again, i can't imagine any other fallbacks would be any more safe (skip anything in an ifversion block? throw an error about ifversion needing a module you haven't loaded?)00:31
lifelesssigmavirus24_awa: <- ewwww. Is there a better option ?00:31
lifelessfungi: when in doubt refuse to guess00:31
fungilifeless: yeah, throwing an error about ifversion not being recognized would at least have made it marginally faster to identify the real problem00:32
kevinbentonis the script broken that changes bug reports to in-progress with a reference to the patch when someone uses the "Closes-Bug: #BUGNUMBER" tag in the commit message?00:33
kevinbentoner, looks like it goes to in progress, but there is no reference to the patch00:33
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kevinbentonhere is an example:
fungikevinbenton: yes, needs approving to fix it again00:33
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add git https slowness work-around for RHEL/Centos 6
kevinbentonfungi: cool. thanks for the pointer00:34
fungii'm going to exercise my core prerogative to just approve that00:34
fungisince clarkb +2's it already00:34
fungii didn't notice my fix had been sitting there for more than a week00:35
fungiso many things broken i lose track of what i've fixed and whether it's merged00:35
smcginnisAnyone around that can disable a CI account?00:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/jeepyb: Default to no series in
fungismcginnis: Vedams-HPMSA FCISCSIDriver CI or another one?00:36
smcginnisfungi: That'd be the one. :)00:36
smcginnisDidnt read the scrollback, so sorry if it's already in the works.00:36
fungilooks like disabling it hasn't stopped it. i'll see if i can disconnect its open connections00:36
fungismcginnis: that account has been disabled for 15+ minutes, but disabling an account doesn't disconnect anything00:37
smcginnisfungi: Ah, I see. Guess we'll have to ride it out then.00:37
smcginnisfungi: Thanks!00:37
fungiwell, looks like it eventually took effect00:37
fungiit's been silent for 8 minutes now00:38
smcginnisfungi: OK, probably just queued up mail still coming in for me.00:38
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openstackgerritThai Tran proposed openstack/requirements: Adding angular-gettext to global requirements
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jeblairaccepted host key for hound00:46
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jeblairand phabricator00:47
fungijeblair: cool. i don't know that it will likely break those since they have no node definitions anyway00:47
jeblairprobably just install some new ssh keys :)00:48
fungiso probably just as well to avoid the errors00:48
fungiindeed, yes00:48
fungiand maybe not even that00:48
openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: New Updated config for CentOS 7 and Apache 2.4
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nibalizerno node definitions and they'll probably pick up the default node00:48
fungiokay, i think the server is looking good now that it can puppet successfully with the git servers back up00:48
nibalizerwhich is a basic application of o_p::server00:48
funginibalizer: ahh, yes that sounds right00:49
jeblairat any rate, it is now past the git* portion of the run.  they were changed and are still working.00:49
jeblairso i think that concludes emergency unplanned maintenance :)00:49
fungican't break an omelette without making a few eggs00:50
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anteayaI've offered my version of the patch with mod_version00:50
anteayado tell me how it should look00:50
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anteayafungi: glad the flushes caches was eventually effective00:52
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Add proposal and release workers to cacti
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openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: New Updated config for CentOS 7 and Apache 2.4
fungilifeless: looking at the bindep situation on --brief, you were referring to the basics section in the readme or somewhere else it needed to be explained?00:57
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openstackgerritStanislaw Pitucha proposed openstack/requirements: Update requirements for Anchor
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openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: New Updated config for CentOS 7 and Apache 2.4
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lifelessfungi: just thinking README01:02
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lifelessfungi: there's nothing to hint that bindep can help you install the things atm01:02
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fungilifeless: i'm also adding info on the exit code since that tripped me up01:02
lifelessfungi: \o/01:03
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lifelessfungi: is bindep installed on workers atm ?01:03
lifelessfungi: or soon ?01:03
fungilifeless: yes, and it's also scraping other-requirements.txt files from all repos we host (if they have them) and pre-caching packages described therein01:03
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fungilifeless: once lands i'll have a good poc and source of accurate timing data to confirm things are working the way we want before trying to roll it out more generally01:05
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/bindep: Document --brief and exit code in basics
fungilifeless: ^01:11
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fungii didn't add anything about --profile because the profiles section right after that goes into what seems like plenty of detail about that particular command-line option01:12
fungialso in the rendered documentation, we get the full --help output embedded in usage.html too, for people who are more browsery01:14
fungiand once we have mordred's magic to pluck the sphinx-generated manpage and embed it into the sdist, it will end up embedded there automatically as well01:15
fungiif things are looking basically cool with bindep after that patch, i want to tag 0.4 so we get the documentation to show up on docs.o.o and then i'll get a change to the setup.cfg to switch some trove classifiers and the homepage link to point to the rendered docs before tagging a 1.001:17
fungiwell, 0.4.0 and 1.0.0 really, but ykwim01:17
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add git https slowness work-around for RHEL/Centos 6
fungimostly just want to see my poc work and then get an example merged to nova along with a tox env so people can 'tox -e bindep' for convenience before we declare it open for business01:18
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: WIP: Migrate to puppet-httpd module
fungithough really i think i want to avoid repos adding other-requirements.txt willy nilly until we have our jobs cut over to install the packages they add there, so that we don't get into a situation where the new job setup insta-breaks testing for someone. if the job configs are in place first, then other-projects.txt files are self-testing01:20
anteayafungi: any way we can perform some db surgery and make this patch reviewable?
anteayathe runaway ci comments01:20
fungianteaya: the toggle ci button works for me01:21
fungithere aren't so many comments on it that gerrit fails to load01:21
anteayait is slow for me01:21
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anteayabut it does load eventually01:21
fungiyeah a little, but unlike that other change which wasn't reviewable at all01:21
anteayajust thought I would ask01:21
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fungii just don't want to go mucking about in the gerrit database any more than i can help, especially not this close to bed time01:21
anteayafair enough01:22
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Use bindep in thin worker experimental job
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openstackgerritDan Prince proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add docker output support
openstackgerritDan Prince proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add base element for using docker as image base
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sigmavirus24lifeless: you mean a better way to force people to use the system store?01:50
sigmavirus24Assuming you know the path of the system store, you could just set REQUESTS_CA_BUNDLE=/path/to/system/store01:51
sigmavirus24It's always amusing to me that people think their system store is more likely to be correct than ours considering we all crib Mozilla's work01:52
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openstackgerritJarod Du proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add networking-lenovo project to OpenStack. This repo will be used for the development of backend ML2 mech drivers and service plugins for Lenovo networking products.
sigmavirus24lifeless: it's not much better but it's somewhat better at least01:58
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openstackgerritJarod Du proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add networking-lenovo project to OpenStack. This repo will be used for the development of backend ML2 mech drivers and service plugins for Lenovo networking products.
openstackgerritDavide Guerri proposed openstack-infra/shade: Fix "Bad floatingip request" when multiple fixed IPs are present
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openstackgerritMikhail S Medvedev proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Add generic logstash manifests
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: WIP: Migrate to puppet-httpd module
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openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Tidy up zuul-env-reqs
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camunozhi StevenK02:46
StevenKcamunoz: Hai!02:46
camunozare you an admin on the instance by any chance?02:47
StevenKcamunoz: I am02:47
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camunozcould you make me one too? :)02:47
StevenKcamunoz: That should be proposed as a puppet change as well02:47
StevenKpleia2: If you're still around, any objections ^ ?02:48
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StevenKcamunoz: I'm also having some fun with trying to push translations for openstack-manuals02:49
camunozahh... I can try to submit a patch if you'd prefer.... become a contributor and all02:49
camunozany questions about that?02:49
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StevenKcamunoz: Just getting ducks in a row so I can paste02:49
StevenKcamunoz: And can haz 3.7.1 server? Please? :-)02:50
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camunozwe've delayed it for another week.... some last minute alterations we wanted to get in... will keep you posted02:50
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camunozStevenK, where is a good place to start looking for implementing the puppet changes?02:52
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StevenKcamunoz: Let me dig up a recent change that will help you, but is my zanata.xml -- and are the warnings I get for every translated file, even including with the exclude in place02:55
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openstackgerritJarod Du proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add networking-lenovo project to OpenStack. This repo will be used for the development of backend ML2 mech drivers and service plugins for Lenovo networking products.
camunozStevenK, I'll take a look...02:57
StevenKcamunoz: Found the change --
openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Fix untemplated images_dir in config fixtures
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camunozStevenK... where can I check out the source?03:03
camunozfor the issue you are having03:03
mordredStevenK: ducks? I like ducks03:03
StevenKcamunoz: openstack-manuals is at
StevenKcamunoz: Drop the cgit/ for git clone, of course03:04
jeblairmordred: i don't think StevenK is offering to cook your dinner03:04
EmilienMmordred: so you like enovance ducks :-P03:04
StevenKjeblair: If you are vaguely around, can you have a look at , specifically AJaeger's last comment ?03:05
jeblairEmilienM: i have 2 in my living room!03:06
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EmilienMjeblair: who doesn't ?03:06
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mordredjeblair: wait. what?03:08
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EmilienMthe old and the new one I bet03:08
mordredjeblair: I'm very confused as to why anyone would not offer to cook me dinner03:08
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jeblairEmilienM: indeed, big duck and little duck03:09
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jrollmordred: touche, I would cook you dinner03:09
mordredjeblair: also: ...03:09
mordredjeblair: there are some immersion circulators in our midst03:09
mordredjroll: THANKS! see ... that's all I'm asking03:09
sc68calI didn't say in the chat - but now I wait 40 hours lol03:09
jrollmordred: you've gotta make it back out to the best coast first though03:10
jeblairStevenK: i think that will work on the proposal slave.  we also have a pattern of doing that sort of thing with jeepyb on hosts themselves (eg, gerrit or cgit run jeepyb locally via puppet to create projects there)03:10
mordredsc68cal: that is the appropriate amount of time to wait for food once you put it into a cooking vessel03:10
sc68calI have a huge beef brisket i'll do next03:10
sc68calthat'll be like 4 days03:10
mordredsc68cal: +++++++03:10
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jrollis that sous vide? looks like sous vide03:10
mordredjroll: I feel like you are suggesting that the coast I am currently situated is deficient in some manner03:10
jrollmordred: oh, no, just an innocent typo :)03:11
jrollreally though the north/south is what matters most03:11
jrolltoo much cold in ny03:11
mordredjroll: you have clearly not been here now03:11
EmilienMsous vide is french, isn't ?03:11
mordredEmilienM: yup!03:11
EmilienMand you say that in english? lol.03:11
mordredEmilienM: but it's become a common enough cooking technique here that the french term is in common usage03:12
jrollmordred: idk, it was 75 and sunny today, I don't see the need to change :P03:12
jeblairmost of food words come from french for some inexplicable reason ;)03:12
jeblairmost of our...03:12
StevenKjeblair: Ah, excellent -- will you prepare a suitable comment?03:12
mordredjroll: here is was 85 and about 95% humidity03:12
jrollmordred: I grew up in michigan, I know better than to go back that far north03:12
mordredjroll: heh03:12
jrollsummer is deceiving03:12
StevenKmordred: Oh my god, send it here03:12
EmilienM"inexplicable" > ahah03:12
mordredEmilienM: to be fair - I tend to hear "immersion circulator" more frequently than sous vide these days ...03:13
StevenKIt's 59 here and I'm dying of cold03:13
mordredEmilienM: because here we like talking about the technology more than the idea03:13
jeblairStevenK: yeah, i'm going to spend some time thinking about whether it's better to do it in jenkins (because it's more like the zuulv3 world we envision where everything is driven instantly by commits landing) or better in puppet (because it will run every X minutes and ensure that things are correct working even if zuul misses an event or something)03:13
jeblairerm.  my sentences are less coherent than mordred's.  this tells me something.03:14
StevenKMore beer required?03:14
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mordredjeblair: dude03:15
mordredjeblair: I'm sure you know how much cachaça has been involved by 23:1503:15
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mordredjeblair: also, I vote for jenkins/zuulv3 - but I have thought about the problem for exactly 20 seconds03:16
jeblairmordred: and it's already 03:16!03:16
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mordredjeblair: usually at 03:16 it's time to enter the abandoned factory and enjoy the resounding thump-untz-thump-untz03:17
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sc68caljroll: indeed it is sou vide03:25
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pleia2StevenK: yeah re: camunoz admin03:58
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pleia2from memory... clicky administration in the top right, then go to users03:59
StevenKYeah, just found it by randoming clicking04:00
StevenKcamunoz: Enjoy your new superpowers04:00
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StevenKcamunoz: But do please propose a change adding yourself :-)04:00
camunozthanks pleia2, StevenK ... yes... I plan on proposing the change... I also have one of my guys looking at your issue StevenK04:01
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StevenKcamunoz: \o/04:02
StevenKSome debugging information like "Here's what I found for locales from the project config" would be useful04:03
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StevenKBut I poked around last night and openstack-manuals seems to match every other project04:03
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lifelesssigmavirus24_awa: rather than ripping out requests and replacing it with a symlink inside of devstack04:15
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Catch early devstack output into logfile
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Catch early devstack output into logfile
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watanabe_isaoHello, to all. Can anyone help us out about the title: [CI] How to set a proxy for zuul. in maillist, please?04:51
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clarkbset up a proxy/port forward the point zuul at it?04:51
clarkbparamiko doesnt do proxies out of the box but nothing prevents pointing it at a proxy set up at eg lcalhost04:52
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watanabe_isaoclarkb, thanks for your reply.04:53
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watanabe_isaoclarkb, sorry, I'm not quite sure about how to set up a proxy/port forward the point zuul at it. Is there any information about it, please.04:55
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clarkbI dont have any zuul specific info04:56
watanabe_isaoclarkb, I mean is there any software or procedure there on Internet, please?04:56
clarkbssh supports SOCKS for example but without knwoibg what ylu need to proxy through I dont have specifics04:56
clarkblooks like corkscrew will do ssh over http proxy04:59
openstackgerritJarod Du proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add networking-lenovo project to OpenStack.
watanabe_isaoclarkb, how about SOCKS5 server?04:59
clarkbor httptunnel04:59
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Added --silent flag to npm run template.
clarkbjust do ssh -D for a socks proxy assuming you can ssh out somehwere05:00
clarkbcorkscrew looks like a good option if you have an http proxy05:01
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lifelessthe yak stack gets deeper05:01
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watanabe_isaoclarkb, thank you for the corkscrew information, I'll have a try.:)05:02
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clarkblifeless do you need a bigger razor?05:07
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lifelessless yaks05:09
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openstackgerritJarod Du proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add networking-lenovo project to OpenStack.
openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/puppet-askbot: Add Gemfile and puppet 4 checks
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openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Move jenkins job builder into jenkins_master
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openstackgerritHao Liu proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Replace templates by traversing component
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lifelessharlowja_at_home: so yeah, funcsigs05:27
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lifelessharlowja_at_home: want to co-maintain a fork ?05:27
StevenKcamunoz: It looks like the client makes the decision about locales, when I added --log-http to the command line, but I can't see in the mess of output where it determines what they are05:28
harlowja_at_homelifeless, sureeee05:28
harlowja_at_homelifeless, the one on pypi seems sorta errr dead05:29
harlowja_at_homeor the person just isn't responsive05:29
harlowja_at_homethey never took my PR (
harlowja_at_home^ makes me sad, lol05:29
lifelessso I've just pinged him on twitter05:29
lifelessI'll follow up with more stalky things in a couple days05:30
harlowja_at_homecool :-P05:30
harlowja_at_homeagent 007 lifeless05:30
lifelessI've got an inconsistency with python 305:30
lifelessso I need to fix05:30
lifelessand vendor it into mock in the short term05:30
harlowja_at_homeya, we need to get rid of getargspec usage all over05:30
camunozStevenK, I think we found a bug in the client for this case.... I will cc you on it in a sec05:30
lifelessvendored within vendored05:31
lifelessits gonna be great05:31
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lifelessharlowja_at_home: do we use it in openstack ?05:31
StevenKcamunoz: YAY05:31
StevenKcamunoz: Or something :-)05:31
harlowja_at_homelifeless, getargspec usage? yes, oslo.utils has some, seen it in other places05:31
harlowja_at_homenot afaik05:32
camunozStevenK, do you have a account?05:32
harlowja_at_homelifeless,  i think haypo was trying to get it in, but i think i asked if the project is dead/alive :-P05:32
harlowja_at_homelifeless,  or was where i found out about victor recommending it (then i looked it over, seemed ok, except for the dead part, lol)05:33
StevenKcamunoz: I do, it's my gerrit e-mail05:33
lifelessharlowja_at_home: yah05:33
lifelessharlowja_at_home: I'm bakporting mock changes from cpython05:33
lifelessharlowja_at_home: and there's a lovely cleanup to use .signature05:33
lifelessbut it breaks on 2.7 :/05:33
lifelessso, guess where I'm at05:34
harlowja_at_homestalking authors05:34
harlowja_at_homeu in his back yard?05:34
harlowja_at_home(my guess)05:34
lifelesshe's in canberra05:34
lifelessI met him last year @ PyConAU05:35
lifelesshe gave a talk on begins05:35
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harlowja_at_homecool, so he's closer to u05:35
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harlowja_at_homewell that means u can find his backyard if u have to05:36
openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Move jenkins job builder into jenkins_master
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watanabe_isaoclarkb, hello, are you still there?05:39
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove non-voting job from networking-odl
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openstackgerritTobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: xunit: Add support for Google Test
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lifelessharlowja_at_home: and success. Evil ensues.05:54
harlowja_at_homelifeless, woot05:54
harlowja_at_homeu aren't still in his backyard are u?05:54
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harlowja_at_home(at least i crack myself up) :-P05:55
lifelessharlowja_at_home: man, I'm so going to lay in some one dollar bills for you05:55
harlowja_at_homehmmm, how do u want me to spend lots of one dollar bills05:56
harlowja_at_home*i've heard of one way*05:56
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lifelessharlowja_at_home: thats a backported patch05:58
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StevenKcamunoz: The second thing is how are excludes matched? Since I was hoping to get the client to ignore anything under .tox05:58
lifelessharlowja_at_home: look at the bind fixup and weep05:58
harlowja_at_home# Has funcsigs been fixed? lol05:58
harlowja_at_homelifeless, nice stuff, ha :-/05:59
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lifelessharlowja_at_home: a tad evil06:00
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NakatoIs anyone aware of where virtualenv gets updated prior to run tox on the test nodes?06:05
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Normalize projects.yaml
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lifelessNakato: yes06:08
lifelessNakato: its updated during the image build06:08
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lifelessNakato: the rule for it is in system-config IIRC06:08
lifelessNakato: grep for virtualenv therein06:08
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Nakatolifeless: Ah, how did I miss that.  Thanks06:10
openstackgerritHao Liu proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Replace templates by traversing component
openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Don't hardcode pip.conf values
openstackgerritIWAMOTO Toshihiro proposed openstack/requirements: Add ryu
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Start using puppet-cgit to manage cgitrc
openstackgerritHao Liu proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Replace templates by traversing component
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openstackgerritSachi King proposed openstack/requirements: WIP: Add capability to run tests in environment installed with constraints
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Normalize projects.yaml
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openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Refactor pulling translations into a common func
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Don't hardcode pip.conf values
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Remove swapiness settings from sysctl.conf
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Decouple server class from nodepool service class
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Muraddoes anybody have any idea how to install devstack with infiniband?08:22
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openstackgerritTobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Ask for credentials if unauthorized
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zigolifeless: Hi there! I have upgraded unittest to version 1.1.0 in Experimental, but now I have the issue that testtools wants to import it in Py3 tests.08:46
zigolifeless: Would unittest2 work in Py3 now?08:46
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lifelesszigo: it always has08:48
lifelesszigo: the 2 does not mean 'python 2'08:48
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lifelesszigo: the 2 means 'newer than 1' (which unittest is)08:48
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zigolifeless: Ok, then probably the CLASSIFIERS should be updated.08:49
zigolifeless: I'll add Py3 support to the package right away.08:49
lifelessyah, the metadata and description etc is very stale08:49
lifelessits tested on 2.6 2.7 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6 pypy208:49
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openstackgerritThomas Morin proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add check-requirements job to 2 projects
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zigolifeless: FYI, I just uploaded unittest2 with Py3 support added, traceback2, linecache2, and version 1.8.0 of testtools, I'll update fixtures soon too.09:23
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zigolifeless: test_run_list_failed_import in testtools/tests/ was broken, as the failure text is currently different, so I had to disable it btw.09:25
zigo(I patched it out...)09:25
lifelesszigo: its not broken upstream09:26
lifelesszigo: you've probably got a bad dependent version somewhere09:26
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lifelesszigo: e.g. too-old unittest209:26
zigolifeless: Not a big deal, though IMO comparing tracebacks isn't a good way to do such a test.09:26
zigoAh, maybe.09:26
zigoMaybe now it works though... :)09:27
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zigolifeless: Do you think I should also update testr & subunit for Liberty? Are all projects switched to the new versions?09:28
lifelesszigo: all of openstack tests with latest pretty-much-everything always09:28
lifelesszigo: we've only just introduced *a* mechanism to do otherwise09:29
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lifelessand we're trying hard to keep things as up to date as we can (only holding back when things are broken)09:29
lifelesszigo: you can see the versions in upper-constraints.txt09:29
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zigolifeless: BTW, what si the way to parse the new requirements.txt format with PBR that you told me about?09:30
DavieyThis is weird... Patch set #3 correctly removed Meiji.. but moments after Patch set #4 is trying to re-add it (which doesn't resemble the parent project!) - .. am i going nuts?09:30
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zigoMy goal would be to translate requirements.txt into a debian/control, of course ...09:30
zigoWhich I could do in Kilo, but which is currently a bit broken.09:30
lifelesszigo: python egg_info09:30
lifelesszigo: that produces the standard python sdist metadata format09:30
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zigolifeless: It's not really what I wanted to do, so I guess I'll keep on adding features to my shell script toolings.09:33
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lifelesszigo: well, we're going to be deleting requirements.txt soon09:34
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lifelesszigo: but up to you09:34
zigolifeless: Where will it end up? In setup.cfg?09:34
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zigolifeless: I'd need something that would extract the info then, and *not* just producing an egg-info.09:34
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lifelessif you produce an egg-info and read the data from there09:35
lifelessyou can keep doing that regardless of the changes we make09:35
zigolifeless: I do *not* want to produce an egg-info, I don't use it and it's going to be annoying for me.09:35
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lifelessits the current interface for extracting full metadata however09:36
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zigolifeless: Just an easy "pbr please-extract-just-the-dependencies" spitting stuff on stdout would be enough.09:36
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lifelesszigo: so, please do file a bug, and we can discuss it where other folk can chime in.09:36
lifelesszigo: but so far I don't see the difference09:36
zigolifeless: Thanks, will do.09:36
zigolifeless: Against pbr, right?09:36
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Davieyzigo: Are you also hoping to autogenerate pydist-overrides ?09:37
zigoDaviey: I hope to continue to be able to use pkgos-reqsdiff which is a helper for humans (*not* an automation tool) to generate correct (build-)depends.09:38
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Davieyzigo: right09:39
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zigoI hope I wrote it in a clear enough way:
openstackLaunchpad bug 1472986 in PBR "wishlist: parseable dependency list" [Undecided,New]09:46
zigoPlease ping me if you need more details, or if I expressed myself not well enough.09:46
zigo-> lunch time09:47
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Create a nodepool node as
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/diskimage-builder: Removes hardcoded refrences for ethernet interface
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openstackgerritHao Liu proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Replace templates by traversing component
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openstackgerritHao Liu proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Replace templates by traversing component
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Davieylifeless: Ugh, I think i had a brain fart.11:02
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lifelessDaviey: orly11:03
Davieylifeless: One of those moments where you realize you were wrong shortly after sending a mail.  You can ignore my response.11:04
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lifelessDaviey: I presume your speech eating retraction is inbound ?11:06
Davieylifeless: I made the wrong conclusion about upper-constraints.txt vs requirements.txt11:06
Davieylifeless: Yus11:06
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sdaguelifeless: so, can you look at - and possible suggest better ways to test that, because making the testability reliable is currently a little interesting with actual process spawns.11:11
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lifelesssdague: I have it open and shall review tomorrow11:14
openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/pbr: Add more documentation around building docs
openstackgerritVictor Stinner proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make gate-glance_store-python34 voting, add gate
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fricklerwow, looks like ubuntu has created an update for grub2 which busts at least both trusty and vivid11:32
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fricklercould anyone try to boot and see if it also stops in grub rescue for them?11:33
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fricklerthis is very likely to affect the next run of nodepool-created images, too11:33
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openstackgerritAntoine Musso proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: debian: install DHCP client and ifconfig packages
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openstackgerritTobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/zuul: gerrit: Allow sending data with ssh command
openstackgerritTobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Use ssh for git-upload-pack
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix
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AJaegersdague, fungi: Could you review, please?12:13
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annegentleflaper87: around?12:16
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mancdazwhat's the easiest way to add an epoch when building wheels from source? I tried insterting 1! before the version in setup.cfg, but pbr seemed to bork when grokking that version string12:20
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mancdazseems like PEP440 makes provision for epochs, and pbr expects semver 3.0 compatible versions, and semver v3 is PEP-440 compatible....12:24
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mordredmancdaz: we don't have any support for epochs at the moment. also, best I can tell, there is no semver 3.0?12:35
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tobiash_Hi, does anybody see what went wrong with the coverage build here: ?12:36
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mancdazmordred I meant this
mancdazmordred and this "All versions have been made PEP-440 compatible"12:43
mordredmancdaz: sorry - I'm still coffeeing :)12:44
mordredmancdaz: so - all of our versions are pep440 - but not all of pep440 are our versions12:44
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mancdazmorded yeah, all of the openstack packages have pep440 versions. But pbr spcifically doesn't support all pep440 versioning12:45
mancdazwhich may be what you just said12:45
mordredI know that we have no support for epochs - I'm not sure we would want it, because they're pretty confusing to most users12:45
mordredI would not expect most of our users to know what 1!1.0.3 means12:46
mancdazmordred I was just looking ahead to liberty times12:46
mancdazwe build wheels from the source12:46
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mancdazso we're effectively having to deal with the same issues that packagers will12:46
mancdazthe epoch scheme that we get to use is that in python itself12:47
mancdazso was trying to see if I could inject an epoch and build a wheel12:47
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mancdazbut then pbr12:47
mordredwell ... you can set a version to anything you want with the env var PBR_VERSION12:47
mancdazah yes12:47
mancdazbut that feels a little sledgehammery12:48
mordredhowever - your use case sounds similar to the local vendor stuff lifeless is wanting to pull from nova12:48
mancdazwe'd need to do some of what pbr does, and grok the version from setup.cfg12:48
mordredlifeless: ^^ you may want to peruse the scrollback here when you get up12:48
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mancdazah I've not seen any of that12:48
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mordredmancdaz: well, you can actually do it easily ... PBR_VERSION=1:$(python --version)12:49
mordredmancdaz: nova has some extra stuff in tree for allowing downstream vendors to add a file somewhere to inject some more version info12:49
mordredmancdaz: we'd like for it to not be nova specific and to solve the use case they are solving generally for everyone12:50
mancdazyeah that sounds nice12:50
mordredmancdaz: as an example:12:51
mordredmordred@camelot:~/src/openstack-infra/shade$ python --version12:51
mordredmordred@camelot:~/src/openstack-infra/shade$ PBR_VERSION=1\!$(python --version) python --version12:51
mancdazthough nicest for me would be for pbr to support epochs, and all the projects include an epoch in their versions :D12:51
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mordredheh. well - _that's_ not going to happen :)12:51
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mordredbut - maybe lifeless will have a good idea of how to solve your issue12:52
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mordreddhellmann, ttx: also, fyi ^^12:52
mancdazmordred humour me for a moment. Aside from it being a bit hard to read, why wouldn't that happen?12:52
mordred2 reasons12:52
mordreda) it's hard to read12:53
mordred(most important one)12:53
mordredb) ! is a special character on unix command lines, so if you don't escape it things blow up12:53
mordredhonestly, I'm quite annoyed that PEP440 decided to use ! as an epoch marker when there is a pre-existing long history of using : which is also not a character that will break all the scripts in the world12:54
mancdazan odd choice for epoch separator in pep440 then?12:54
mordredso, even if it weren't immediately confusing for the general case12:54
mordredit would make our tarballs and pacakges very hard to work with for everyone12:54
mancdazthis saddens me12:55
mordredand there is one and only one event that will cause them to be needed12:55
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mordredhonestly - I'd just write a workaround script to deal with the liberty release and not try to solve it generally12:55
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mancdazyeah, sounds like it might have to be the way12:56
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mordredwe generally take increasing versions very seriously - we only took this change because we don't (yet) release the servers to pypi and so that we could treat them more normally lke everything else12:56
mordredso I _strongly_ doubt it will ever happen again12:56
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fungialso, it already happened for some other projects cycles ago (e.g. novaclient used to have date-based versioning)12:57
mancdazsure, I understand the need. Just was hoping to solve it in the 'proper' way when we come to liberty12:58
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mancdazdoesn't seem like there is a real 'proper' way to do it though12:58
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fungidistros will add an epoch prefix on their package versions12:59
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fungibut python packages don't really have that construct12:59
mancdazyeah, they have their own versioning scheme to be able to wrap this all with12:59
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mancdazwell they do, but it's a bad one because of '!'13:00
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fungioh, i didn't realize that existed13:01
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Fix
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fungialso wondering, once we do release to pypi, how we're going to deal with
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fungithough it's not got any actual files on pypi, just spiderlinks13:02
mancdazjust delete it and pretend it never existed13:02
fungiso it may end up fine13:02
fungimordred: jeblair: clarkb: pleia2: just fyi, i'm not around much today. more house-related stuff. i expect tomorrow to be much the same13:04
mordredfungi: awesome. enjoy house stuff13:04
fungiyou bet. i love visiting with lawyers, signing endless sheaves of contracts, et cetera13:04
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mordredfungi: can you believe pep440 picked "!" as their epoch char? :)13:05
fungimordred: it's ludicrous i agree13:05
mordredfungi: also - I _think_ we're going to need to change the name of the thing we publish to pypi to openstack-$name for all the servers13:05
mordredfungi: because keystone is already taken on pypi13:05
mordredso pypi should not be a problem really13:05
fungimordred: then again, ; as a marker separator isn't much better when it comes to being special in pretty much every unix shell ever13:06
mordredfungi: debian uses : for that reason13:06
mordredmarker separator13:06
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mordredbut you don't expect markers to show up in filenames13:06
fungitrue. and the comparison operators are similarly problematic in that regard (!=<>)13:07
fungiso i guess quoting version specs is sort of already expected... but the filenames much less so13:07
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mordredGheRivero: updated the os-client-config patch - better?13:07
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mordredfungi: I am not interested in needing to quote filenames :)13:08
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fungimordred: however, debian has the benefit of not needing to work on mac filesystems, where : is path separator13:09
mordredoh. bother13:09
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mordredwait - is that still the case?13:09
mordredpost osx?13:09
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fungioh, i dunno. the last time i had to deal with a mac filesystem was mac os 7.something13:10
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funginot sure if hfs+ does that13:10
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mancdaznah, it's '/' on osx13:11
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openstackgerritSomay Jain proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added support for groovy script trigger
mordredfungi: you dont' want to review a shade patch before you go deal with lawyers, do you?
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fungimordred: probably not. helping fifieldt track down a spam infestation on at the moment13:14
mordredooh. have fun with that13:14
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mordredI'll just wait for SpamapS to wake up13:15
fifieldttriaging that problem in #openstack-community at the moment, for referecne13:15
openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-nodepool: Add creation of secure.conf file
mordredfifieldt, fungi: have fun with that! I wish you both luck13:15
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openstackgerritScott Moser proposed openstack-infra/git-review: support urls as change-id input
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mordredfungi: yah13:26
openstackgerritAndrew Laski proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for bug 1466696
openstackbug 1466696 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Cells: Race between instance 'unlock' and 'stop' can cause 'stop' to fail" [Low,Confirmed]
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-nodepool: Add creation of secure.conf file
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sigmavirus24_awalifeless: if you want to test against terribly outdated versions of requests in devstack, be my guest. The best way to replace likely identical (if not newer) certificate bundles though is through the environment variable or doing what that patch already does13:41
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mordredsigmavirus24_awa: I have no context to that conversation - but it sounds interesting - reference?13:44
sigmavirus24_awauh let me scroll back and find the review13:44
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sigmavirus24_awatl;dr a devstack change was merged that symlinks the system certificate bundle into where requests stores its certificate bundle13:45
sigmavirus24_awaThere are env variables to override what the certificate bundle is if you would rather use those, but we actually do our best to stay as up-to-date with Mozilla as possible (which is where Fedora, Debian, and (I'm guessing) Ubuntu generate theirs from)13:46
mordredsigmavirus24_awa: well, I think the problem in this case might actually be that the system bundle is less up to date, but other tools in the devstack stack are using it to set some things up ... so the mismatch causes api requests to have a sad later on13:47
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack-infra/project-config: [WIP] Add an experimental ceilometer grenade job
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mordredsigmavirus24_awa: that said - I agree with you, requests has more than adequate ability to pass in bundles13:48
mordredsigmavirus24: and, in fact, all of the openstack tools have config options to specify things to pass in to requests13:48
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mordredWHICH devstack does not properly set :)13:48
sigmavirus24mordred: yep. Lifeless asked if there was a better way13:48
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mordredso I'd agree with you ... maybe we shoudl just set the variables we already have to the correct values13:48
sigmavirus24There's that way, which seems to be a bit more work, or using env vars but you could always just use distro-packaged requests13:48
sigmavirus24All downstreams rip out our ca bundle and use the system one13:49
mordredoh no - that's definitely not possible13:49
sigmavirus24(Which I understand and expect)13:49
openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Stop passing unused nodepool parameters
sigmavirus24Just beware of requests ~2.6 series of requests13:49
mordredwe're very much in the "all things in devstack intalled from pip" bucket13:49
sigmavirus24It's ... uh .. a little broken thanks to urllib313:49
sigmavirus242.7 is fine though13:49
sigmavirus24took a bit of work, but Cory and I worked out the remaining kinks13:50
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sigmavirus24This is what we get for trying to give users more control over chunked responses along with more information about them and ripping that away from httplib13:50
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mordredsigmavirus24: I find that giving users control of things is always a path to pain13:51
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sigmavirus24mordred: well this was a legitimate request for usage of urllib313:52
sigmavirus24requests doesn't quite provide that access directly unless you use the raw urllib3 response object13:52
sigmavirus24but yeah13:52
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sigmavirus24some Red Hatters needed it and re-implemented it poorly causing the issues in the 2.6 branch of requests13:52
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Mzoo_Hi experts. I have an openstack identity unit test question.13:54
Mzoo_formData = {'action': 'tenants__delete__%s' % project_id}   res =, formData) returns no html response. Does anybody know why?13:54
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Mzoo_After the execution, res value is:  Accept-Language, Cookie X-Frame-Options: SAMEORIGIN Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Location: http://testserver/identity/ Content-Language: en13:54
Mzoo_I want to get html elements from the response but res obj is empty?13:55
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fungiMzoo_: i've no idea why you're asking the sysadmins for the community servers about that, but it sounds like you might be looking for the #openstack-dev or #openstack-keystone channels instead13:56
openstackgerritThomas Morin proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add check-requirements job to 2 projects
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fungiMzoo_: at least, i have not nearly enough context to guess at what you're asking13:56
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Mzoo_fungi: Thanks, I asked this question at dev channel. But no body answered it. I read this channel is related to integration and some sort of test. So ask it again here. (
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fungiMzoo_: right, we build and maintain the servers where the tests run (and also maintain things like the code review server, the wiki, mailing lists server, et cetera)13:59
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Mzoo_fungi: sorry for my misundrestanding. Just asking on keystone channel again :)14:00
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fungiMzoo_: no problem, just trying to direct you to channels with people who are more likely to have answers to your questions14:00
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AJaegermestery: thanks for following up on the ACL issue with ttx!14:03
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mesteryAJaeger: np, wanted to ensure we closed the loop there for those following along :)14:03
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AJaegermestery: appreciated, thanks!14:12
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack-infra/project-config: [WIP] Add an experimental ceilometer grenade job
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openstackgerritSomay Jain proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support for more configurable options in sonar publisher
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: POC: grenade partial multinode
openstackgerritThomas Morin proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add check-requirements job to 2 projects
openstackgerritThomas Morin proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add check-requirements job to 2 projects
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paramiteHi all, can somebody help me here? I'm looking for a source code of runner of job gate-puppet-ceilometer-puppet-beaker-rspec-upgrade-dsvm-centos714:35
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openstackgerritThomas Morin proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add check-requirements job to 2 projects
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tmorinhi dougwig14:47
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tmorinI've one question related to how service_providers are loaded  and the commit at;a=commitdiff;h=fb3138c8d718be67505f247ca776abf15ba1504a14:47
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Clintparamite: openstack-infra/project-config:jenkins/jobs/puppet-module-jobs.yaml ?14:48
tmorinI see you can't have both service_providers in neutron.conf and in neutron_*aas.conf14:48
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paramiteClint, thanks14:49
tmorinwe have a service_provider for bgpvpn (networking-bgpvpn) that does not sit in any of neutron_(lbaas|fwaas|vpnaas).conf14:49
tmorinbut if we add it to neutron.conf, we can't coexist with service providers using neutron_(lbaas|fwaas|vpnaas).conf14:49
jeblairtmorin: you might try asking in #openstack-dev or #openstack-neutron14:50
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tmorinjeblair: gee, wrong room :-(14:50
tmorinjeblair: thought that was my openstack-neutron tab...14:50
jeblairtmorin: np :)14:50
tmorinjeblair: thanks14:50
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anteayaClint: I commented on your comment on
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anteayaClint: my patch is basically a straight copy of yolanda's patch15:02
anteayaClint: I don't really favour a big rework of it right now15:03
anteayaClint: hope that makes sense15:03
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mordredanteaya: we've verified that mod_version exists on the centos ?15:05
anteayaI have not verified anything15:05
anteayathat is a good question you ask15:05
openstackgerritMikhail S Medvedev proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Add generic logstash manifests
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mordredyolanda: ^^ ?15:06
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yolandahi, we have that running on our centos 715:06
mordredok. great15:07
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anteayaI also have not tested my patch15:07
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EmilienMwe are noticing some downtime on git.o.o >
yolandaanteaya, same patch as i pushed, was the one i had working under our apache, but i saw it was reverted. The issue was the ordering?15:09
anteayayup, Maximum of 3 git retries reached15:09
anteayayolanda: the issue was that mod_version was not installed15:09
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anteayayolanda: and without mod_version IfVersion is not parsed15:09
yolandai guess it worked for us because we had it installed before15:09
anteayaso all the modules specific to 2.4 were installed on 2.215:09
anteayaso much unhappiness15:09
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anteayayolanda: yep, that makes sense15:10
clarkbwe run cwntos6...15:10
mordredyolanda: well, in our case, we're runing centos6 - so the ifversions are more important I think15:10
yolandawe have several with centos6 as well15:10
anteayaso can anyone confirm that centos6 has mod_version available?15:11
anteayamy google fu is subpar15:11
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jeblairwe also had a discussion yesterday that perhaps a better approach would be to avoid using mod_version and instead have the conditional logic in puppet15:11
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mordredjeblair: there is an available apache version fact we can use?15:12
yolandais there a fact in puppet that can easily tell which apache version are we using?15:12
persiaanteaya: suggests it does, if that is the same mod_version15:12
mordredyolanda: jinx15:12
yolandaeh :)15:12
mordredpersia: woot. thanks15:12
jeblairmordred, yolanda: i bet we can find out if we're running centos6 or 715:12
anteayapersia: thank you15:12
yolandamordred, i tried that approach as well, but the comparison for ubuntu and centos versions, to make sure which apache versions were they using, was so complex15:13
yolandajeblair ^15:13
anteayajeblair: I'm fine with a different approach, I was just doing the minimal of what I understood to be helpful15:13
yolandaif we limit only to centos, and assume centos >= 7 is 2.415:13
yolandaand centos < 7 is 2.2, we can do it15:13
persiaAt least the search results I posted suggested it was for a httpd24 in CentOS 6, which may not be default.15:14
jeblairEmilienM: i don't see anything too drastic in our monitoring; i wonder if there is/was a network in that node's region15:14
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jeblairEmilienM: network problem that is15:15
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EmilienMjeblair: ok, it was just fyi15:17
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spredzyjeblair, ping Can I ask if my remark is accurate and that the generic function you refered to are still too generic for doc ?15:19
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jeblairspredzy: setup_git is generic at least15:23
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jeblairspredzy: if you want to make things more generic, that would be great, but we don't need to hold that patch on that kind of improvement, but updating it to use anything that's already done would be good.15:24
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spredzyjeblair, ack. Let me update that15:27
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spredzyjeblair, should I make a first review that move setup_git outside to a more generic name common.sh15:28
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spredzysourcing to a job unrelated to translation might not make sense15:29
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openstackgerritSébastien Han proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add Ceph DevStack plugin to Stackforge
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jeblairspredzy: i think setup_git is already in common.sh15:31
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spredzyjeblair, erf you're right local copy was old :/15:34
spredzymy bad15:34
openstackgerritDirk Mueller proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Start with a green field for RPM packaging
jeblairspredzy: whew, i thought maybe my local copy was too new ;)15:35
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openstackgerritYanis Guenane proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add support for backport-potential commit flag
spredzyjeblair, ^15:47
spredzyEmilienM, ^15:47
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Revert "Switch to using pypi"
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EmilienMspredzy: thx15:48
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jeblairgnus has this thing where you can group newsgroups together and toggle display of them as a group... i think gertty needs this (so i can deal with the puppet-* repos at a glance)15:52
openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Update nodepool to use secure.conf file
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-nodepool: Add creation of secure.conf file
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openstackgerritDavid Medberry proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Fix the tags so that it generates the proper log entry.
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openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/system-config: use updated jenkins_master.pp manifest
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pc_mAnyone know how to view older code (like Icehouse) from github? It doesn't show as a branch. I know I can access it from a local repo, but wanted to point someone to icehouse code on github and can't seem to see it.16:00
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fungipc_m: there is a tag, icehouse-eol16:02
fungipc_m: it represents the final state of the stable/icehouse branch when it reached end of life16:02
jeblairpc_m: you can see it on git.o.o with
jeblairpc_m: i assume github has similar functionality ;)16:03
fungii've heard github is useful for such things, but since it's not free software i'm not inclined to waste my time finding out16:03
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pc_mfungi: jeblair: Thanks! I see it. Under pulldown, there is a branch tab and a tag tab, it is under tag tab.16:04
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-os_client_config: Module boilerplate
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fungipc_m: anyway, we have .*-eol tags going back to diablo (for repos like nova which have been around that long)16:05
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pc_mfungi: Cool. Didn't see that tag tab.16:06
fungiand also some release tags for things even older than diablo, it seems16:06
fungisuch as nova 0.9.0 (wow!)16:06
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dgonzalezHi all, i am planning to create a multi-region scenario test for heat (See I guess for this to work i would have to create a new experimental jenkins job for heat, which runs on a multi-region devstack environment. Can this be done with a multinode setup? Or how do i have to configure the jenkins job to run such a multi-region test?16:10
openstackgerritJohn Patterson proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Adding Flowdock as a supported publisher
fungidgonzalez: so it's not possible to create multiple regions on a single-node devstack? if not, then yeah you'd need to have the job use a 2-node devstack worker (but i don't know enough about devstack and regions to say for sure that's sufficient)16:11
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dgonzalezfungi: As far as i know, it is not possible to configure a single devstack with multiple regions.  You need one devstack per region. In my local tests i was able to create two regions with two devstack installations. But i am not sure how i can configure something like this in a jenkisn job for devstack-gate...16:13
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fungidgonzalez: devstack-gate uses ansible to run on each subnode in the multinode group (or just on the local node if there's only one)16:16
fungidgonzalez: you can probably look at the definition of one of our existing multinode devstack jobs for ideas16:16
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for neutron functional test race bug 1472692
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openstackbug 1472692 in neutron "test_port_creation_and_deletion randomly fails with: eventlet.timeout.Timeout: 60 seconds" [Medium,Confirmed]
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reedfungi, on wouldn't there need to be also a restore of the database of users and questions/answers?16:19
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dgonzalezfungi: I did already take a look at some jobs in project-config. It seems to me like they all just set 'export DEVSTACK_GATE_TOPOLOGY="multinode"'. To get a multi-region setup i would need to configure the localrc files for the devstack nodes in order to set the regions for the devstack nodes. But i am not sure how to do this16:22
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fungireed: we can do that, sure. maybe a periodic dump and import mechanism16:23
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fungidgonzalez: yep, it's beyond what i've done but clarkb and sdague might have some guidance16:24
reedfungi, don't you have an old copy somewhere?16:25
greghaynesfungi: mordred the check experimental I just did on looks like it is going to be all red :(16:25
greghaynesso might not be a good idea to switch it all over to ubuntu-trusty16:26
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openstackgerritJohn Patterson proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Adding Flowdock as a supported publisher
greghaynesIm also uploading an image to rax now to see if I can repro out hostname behavior...16:26
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: WIP: Migrate to puppet-httpd module
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Fix the tags so that it generates the proper log entry.
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fungireed: of the production database?16:33
SpamapSmordred: I'm awake. Wassup?16:33
reedfungi, yes16:33
fungireed: sure, but i can also just psql dump a fresh one16:33
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reedfungi, i think it would be good, when you have time16:33
dgonzalezfungi: ok thanks for the advice. Any idea when clarkb or sdague are usually online?16:34
fungireed: yep, likely next week. i'm neck deep in house closing interruptions at the moment16:34
clarkbI am almost here, finishing breakfast16:34
fungidgonzalez: it varies16:34
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mordredSpamapS: uhm.16:35
mordredSpamapS: I don't remember?16:35
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SpamapSmordred: 06:12 < mordred> fungi: you dont' want to review a shade patch before you go deal with lawyers, do you?
SpamapSmordred: I think it was that.16:36
mordredSpamapS: almost certainly16:36
mordredSpamapS: although I feel there was a more complex thing I wanted to discuss as well16:37
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SpamapSmordred: <-- -1'd .. very tiny fix16:38
SpamapSmordred: was it maybe.....16:38
mordredSpamapS: oops. nice catch16:38
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Rework how we get domains
mordredSpamapS: done16:39
mordredShrews: ^^ fixed a thing for the SpamapS16:39
fungireed: also i probably want to consult with mrmartin or evgeny on how to import a data dump from an older askbot release into the version running on the staging server16:39
fungireed: since i have a feeling the db schema may change from time to time and need migrations applied16:40
openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add a query for failures in shutting down cinder-api
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fungireed: also do you have any tips for fifieldt and i for cleaning up tags added by spam posts?16:41
fungiapparently even if you mark all the spam posts for deletion, the tags stick around indefinitely or something16:41
eharneyjeblair: could you drop by again?  you had previously +2'd16:41
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reedfungi, i'm aware of that issue but I have no solution. I'd email Evgeny for that16:42
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fungireed: good to know we're not just missing something obvious at least. thanks!16:43
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jeblaireharney: i don't think the change to hardcode devstack-trusty is necessary -- did you think there was some configuration that would cause it to run on precise?16:45
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eharneyjeblair: that was the assumption yes, that it could end up on either16:45
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jeblaireharney: we're not quite so random as that :)  the current logic is that devstack jobs run on devstack-trusty, unless they have 'centos7' or 'precise' in their names16:47
jeblaireharney: (they used to also use precise for changes to the icehouse branch, but that was just eol'd)16:47
eharneyjeblair: oh, well, the drbd one may be a little off too then (i copied this from there)16:47
jeblaireharney: so leaving it floating will let us use the generalized logic, which is usually correct, and upgrade without having to change all 6000 jobs :)16:48
eharneyjeblair: sounds good, i'll update it16:48
jeblaireharney: (also, due to how things are actually implemented -- if you set that to devstack-trusty, and the logic decided to do run it on precise, the job would just get stuck.  come to think of it, i probably should have lead with that point. :)16:49
eharneyjeblair: :)16:49
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krotscheckAny non-jeblair cores able to look at this? I would like to be able to debug my build.
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mordredkrotscheck: done16:54
openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add experimental Cinder job for LIO
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eharneyjeblair: fixed up, thanks ^16:55
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add a query for failures in shutting down cinder-api
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fungijeblair: would the job really get stuck? from what i've seen in those cases it just immediately terminates with a NOT_REGISTERED status16:58
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jeblairfungi: yeah, probably so.  though if the job were voting that wouldn't be great.17:00
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openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/puppet-os_client_config: Manage OSCC config file with Puppet
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fungidefinitely wouldn't be great, no. seen that happen before too :/17:05
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clarkbdgonzalez: hi there17:08
clarkbdgonzalez: what is required to make the test work?17:08
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dgonzalezclarkb: I need a devstack environment with two regions. So that i can create a heat stack which deploys resources on both regions17:09
clarkbright but that does devstack environment with two regions require17:09
clarkbwhat does this environment look like17:09
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dgonzalezBasically i need the environment to be configured as explained in the devstack README here:
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dgonzalez(The configuration options shown there are meant to go into the localrc file)17:13
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clarkbok so its two full installs of openstack with one shared keystone?17:14
clarkbso right now devstack-gate controls the localrc for both the primary node (controller) and the subnode (compute) and it basically sets them up the one way17:15
clarkbto do the multiregion thing you will need to add a second set of config for the subnode that makes it a controller too pointing it at the primary nodes keystone17:15
greghayneshrm, uploaded a new glean image to rax and networking failed, scary17:15
clarkbthat should just be a config change, the existing run ansible stuff to run shouldn't need changing17:15
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dgonzalezok sounds good, where would i have to add/change this config?17:16
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: WIP: Migrate to puppet-httpd module
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dgonzalezi never worked with devstack-gate before, so sorry if this is a stupid question, but where exactly would i have to change this? in the file?17:19
dgonzalezI cannot find any mention of multinode in the devstack-gate repo17:19
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clarkbdgonzalez: the checks to look at are DEVSTACK_GATE_TOPOLOGY17:21
clarkband likely in not the wrap script as we do localrc generation in devstack-vm-gate.sh17:21
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dgonzalezclarkb: Ok thanks, i think i have found the relevant places in devstack-vm-gate.sh17:23
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bswartzcould someone help me understand why this patch is in merge conflict?
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clarkbbswartz: sure let me look17:25
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Migrate to puppet-httpd module
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krotscheckclarkb: Once you're done with that -> is a thing jeblair did that makes our tests talk to us.17:26
fungiooh! we surpassed review 200000 today!17:26
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clarkbbswartz: its proposed to master but appears to be meant for stable/kilo?17:27
bswartzoh crap17:27
clarkbbswartz: it definitely conflicts with master17:27
bswartzI bet that' the issue17:27
clarkband this my friends is why git review -R is bad17:27
clarkb(just saying)17:27
bswartzthanks for noticing that17:27
bswartzIt should save been kilo17:27
fungiand also if you accidentally do the opposite (propose a master change to stable/kilo) you can end up fast-forwarding your stable branch. i recommend you don't do that either ;)17:28
krotscheckclarkb: Much obliged17:28
clarkbkrotscheck: np17:28
clarkbfungi: are you planning on dealing with ssl certs post home buying?17:29
anteayafungi: wooooo 20000017:29
clarkbwasn't sure if that was already on your radar17:29
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fungiclarkb: yep, was just waiting until closer to the middle of july17:29
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fungiclarkb: the plan is early next week to buy new or updated certs for: etherpad, git, refstack, review, wiki (were there any others we were needing to add?) and replacing jenkins with snakeoil17:31
clarkbthat list looks good unless ask/groups are also due17:31
fungithose can wait a year17:31
fungijeblair was good about keeping most of our certs in sync for july renewals, so any which are coming due before next july i'm renewing at the same time17:32
fungigroups expires a year from november, and ask expires a year from next february so they can both get done next july17:33
jeblairfungi: oh yeah, meant to double check that you planned to do that... guess so!17:33
fungijeblair: yep, it's on my pile17:33
fungithe soonest expiration is git/wiki which both go on the 19th, so we've still got 10 days before it's critical17:34
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fungibut i figure early next week is safely ahead of emergency17:34
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fungiright now i'm trying to use what little free time i have to learn how to send summit invites to our wonderful liberty contributors17:35
fungiand to do some manual cleanup post askbot spamstorm17:35
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fungii have some interesting notes from evgeny to add to our management documentation17:36
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* clarkb is reading openssl vulnerability details now to figure out if/how we are affected17:38
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Remove -e from apply test applier
fungitbh i haven't even looked at that today. being pulled in too many directions already17:39
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fungii should take a moment to read through it as well17:39
openstackgerritMikhail S Medvedev proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Move out server class from logstash classes
clarkbit looks like we may be ok, its a certificate verification bug and we don't use openssl for that in say gerrit17:39
clarkbWe do use it in gear but don't use the feature yet17:40
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clarkbI suppose nodepool verifying rax/hpcloud endpoints is the other place17:41
clarkbso we should restart nodepool after the package update17:41
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clarkbI still don't see it on usn though17:41
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clarkbfungi: ^ thats my distillation, please do let me know if I am msitaken or have missed anything17:42
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fungiclarkb: yeah, it looks like something i'm not especially worried by in the short term. the other place is the puppetmaster but we don't actually validate the signature on the cert there either aiui?17:44
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-askbot: Migrate to puppet-httpd module
fungi(thinking about puppet node certs)17:44
jeblairclarkb: it was introduced in june i think17:44
clarkbthe master does auth the client17:44
clarkbjeblair: oh is ours old enough to not be affected? /me checks version numbers17:45
fungiif memory serves puppet is doing something more ugly like matching the actual cert (though i suppose it could be validating its own signature there)17:45
clarkbsweet I think that is the case17:45
jeblairclarkb: yeah, i haven't checked yet, but would not be surprised if that's the case for the lts's at least17:45
clarkbwe have 1.0.1f on LTS and 1.0.1n and 1.0.1o are affected17:45
fungioh, wow. i skipped the date because the pre-release heads up mentioned affected versions back as far as what's running on precise/trusty/centos617:45
clarkbso unless ubuntu backported the bug we should be fine17:46
krotscheckThe usual email address for ci things is, correct?17:46
fungiyeah, this is a non-issue17:46
fungikrotscheck: setting up the npm account?17:46
krotscheckfungi: Writing the documentation17:46
fungikrotscheck: oh, you mean for people to contact us?17:46
krotscheckfungi: No, for people to setup projects.17:47
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: WIP: Migrate to puppet-httpd module
krotscheckfungi: There's a command called `npm owner add <email> <projectname>`17:47
krotscheckJust trying to fill in the email bit17:47
fungikrotscheck: okay, for npm though, got it. i think we had said we were going to use a separate e-mail alias per service? at least that's my recollection from when pleia2 was adding our zanata openstackid account. but maybe we're okay reusing a common e-mail for publication services?17:48
fungijeblair: clarkb: mordred: ^ ?17:49
krotscheckfungi: You could use + notation.17:49
openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack-infra/glean: dont fail if /etc/hosts is missing or something like that17:49
greghaynesmordred: ^ I was just hitting this17:50
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jeblairfungi: i think with zanata we were mostly focused on the openstackid account -- in that we thought zanata should have its own; i think that implied it should get its own address too17:50
jeblairfungi, krotscheck: i think with npm, we probably don't have the same issue and could use a more generic address17:51
pleia2fungi: (and everyone else prepping for renames tomorrow who is interested), draft etherpad here:
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fungijeblair: ahh, yep. but having one e-mail alias for pypi/puppetforge/maven nexus/npm/et cetera should be fine i guess17:51
jeblairkrotscheck, fungi: and also, i agree that we could probably use + notation for some of these, if that works (though for user comfort we may not want to do that for the specific npm case)17:51
jeblair(i have not tested that + works with rax email)17:52
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/shade: Rework how we get domains
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fungipleia2: cool--thanks for putting that together! did my hacky shell script come in handy i guess?17:52
jeblairfungi, krotscheck: how about "" ?17:53
pleia2fungi: hacky script was wonderful :)17:53
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krotscheckjeblair: (That ascii shruggy shoulder thing)17:53
fungijeblair: wfm. i'm trying to live out my retirement in a no-bikeshed zone17:53
jeblairfungi, krotscheck: if we were chosing a username, i would recommend "openstackinfra"; is as close to that as i can get in emailspeak17:54
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anteayapleia2: is the order on the etherpad the order you would like them stacked as I rebase?17:54
pleia2anteaya: sure, that makes sense17:54
fungipleia2: i vaguely recall there being 12 renames on our wiki agenda but see only 8 on the etherpad. what became of the rest? changes not up to snuff? blocked on new project-team applications?17:54
pleia2fungi: anteaya pointed out that the TC decided compass is not ready17:55
pleia2I'll update the wiki17:55
anteayacompass had 4 repos17:55
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fungipleia2: anteaya: perfect--that's what i thought might have happened17:55
jeblairfungi, krotscheck: gimme a min and i'll see about setting up infra@17:55
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openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Added NPM Publishing credentials to pypi slave.
krotscheckjeblair: Much obliged.17:56
krotscheckjeblair, fungi: Once ^^ merges, that's where the properties should go.17:56
fungikrotscheck: btw i did get the new built and a cursory examination last night after the git emergency had receded, but i'm hesitant to add it to jenkins.o.o and switch the slave label over until i'm around for a bit to keep an eye on it17:57
krotscheckfungi: I noticed the new entry, thanks for that.17:57
fungithough if it becomes urgent, someone else can probably knock that bit out17:57
jeblairfungi, krotscheck: infra@o.o is set up (or will be as soon as their mta refreshes its config)17:57
fungithanks jeblair!17:58
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anteayattx could you give this a push, it didn't merge:
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jeblairanteaya, ttx: it depends on an unmerged project-config patch17:59
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fungiyeah, it's not going in until 192730 lands18:00
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openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack-infra/glean: dont fail if /etc/hosts is missing
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fungiwhich looks like is slated for tomorrow18:00
fungiso can recheck at that point18:00
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anteayajeblair: oh the dependency is the other way, sorry I missed that18:03
anteayaEmilienM: who can give this a rebase?
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EmilienManteaya: no idea. In the middle of our kilo release, i'll check that later today or tomorrow18:04
fungianteaya: there may be minimal point to rebasing rename patches (as long as they otherwise review clean) until tomorrow so they can be stacked together18:04
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anteayawell are we asking folks to just rename them, I thought that was a goal going forward18:05
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Use git:// in modules.env
anteayathe patch also changes jobs which I thought we were asking people not to do in rename patches18:05
anteayaI don't know the author's irc nick18:05
jeblairclarkb, pabelanger: continuing a conversation we started in -sprint:18:05
EmilienManteaya: me neither :(18:05
anteayaunless we don't care, I thought we cared18:05
anteayaEmilienM: oh okay sorry to bother you then18:05
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EmilienManteaya: no problem!18:06
jeblairclarkb, pabelanger: it seems like we can address the centos git problem with  or possibly
fungianteaya: yeah, if it needs changes then rebasing when that is done makes sense, but just rebasing because there's a merge conflict is likely of limited value18:06
pabelangerjeblair, git config --global url."git://".insteadOf https://18:06
pabelangermight be needed too18:06
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jeblairpabelanger: why's that?18:06
clarkbjeblair: 200194 is an incomplete fix18:06
clarkbjeblair: because of all our vcsrepos18:06
fungianteaya: we've been finding it goes a lot smoother if someone goes through shortly before the maintenance and creates a series with them all depending together, and resolves all the merge conflicts they may have with each other at that point too18:06
pabelangerjeblair, of of the puppetlabs modules use git-submodule hardcoded to use https18:07
pabelangersome of*18:07
jeblairwe use modules with submodules?18:07
clarkbjeblair: even if we do I don't think we init them18:07
clarkbso thats likely a non issue18:07
pabelangerya, let me see if I can remember with one18:07
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fungiright, we'd have to be doing a recursive clone i think for that to matter?18:08
pabelangeryou should see the delay in centos6 job18:08
jeblairclarkb: yeah, i don't remember doing any work to actually init them18:08
jeblairwould the insteadOf approach take care of all the vcsrepo stuff?18:09
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clarkbjeblair: it should18:09
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clarkbas long as we apply it globally18:09
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jeblairnow i'm thinking we should decide between (A) ianw's git build or (B) setting that gitconfig on centos6 image builds18:11
jeblaireither of those options actually let us start switching to https everywhere in our configs18:11
clarkbI prefer A because it fixes the issue rather than working around it18:11
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anteayafungi: yes that is what I am working on doing18:12
jeblairfungi, mordred, pleia2: would love to hear your thoughts on this18:12
jeblair(A) is
anteayaand my understanding is that projects under openstack/ use docs.o.o not rtfd18:13
jeblair(B) is 18:06 < pabelanger> jeblair, git config --global url."git://".insteadOf https://18:13
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anteayaso in the case of renaming changing publish jobs from rtfd to docs.o.o is required18:13
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fungianteaya: it can always happen after the rename if they want18:14
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pabelangergoing to test B again18:16
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anteayafungi: okay thank you18:16
pleia2B certainly is easier, particularly if we decide to upgrade to centos7 in the near future, but clarkb is right about A being a better fix18:16
fungijeblair: i'd lean toward the newer git, though the protocol config workaround does mean we can continue to not hack in unofficial packages18:16
openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Added NPM Publishing credentials to pypi slave.
clarkbpleia2: A should only affect centos6, centos7 won't match that block of code18:16
* fungi is sort of torn on this one too18:16
pleia2clarkb: that's what I mean, this is a temporary fix until we upgrade18:17
pleia2once we upgrade the problem should go away18:17
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jeblairpleia2: (and drop the last 2.6 jobs, but that's not far off either)18:17
pleia2jeblair: nods18:17
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/shade: Fix "Bad floatingip request" when multiple fixed IPs are present
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anteayavipul: is this your patch? if so please address the comments:
fungiyeah, at the end of the day i'm fine with either, but noting that being able to rebuild our git servers with trusty or centos 7 is who knows how far down the road before a fix for shallow cloning makes it into one of those platforms (or else we decide to declare shallow clones unsupported)18:18
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jeblairfungi, clarkb, pleia2: sounds like A is the closest we have to a winner... want to leave your mark on ?18:19
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* fungi needs to disappear in 15 minutes to meet with lawyers, likely never to return (at least for some many hours)18:21
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* krotscheck grumbles about grumbly things.18:22
sigmavirus24jeblair: how does one get rid of the hold warning in the top right if there are no open holds that are shown in that pane?18:22
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: WIP: Migrate to puppet-httpd module
pabelangerfungi, \o/18:23
anteayafungi: happy signing things18:24
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sdagueis...."git.exc.GitCommandError: 'git remote prune --dry-run origin' returned with exit code 128" a thing we're aware of already?18:24
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fungithat's a new one on me. where is it rearing its ugly head?18:25
sdagueit is an extremely sparse log18:26
clarkbthe line after is the important18:26
fungiwow, yeah. that's a shorty18:26
clarkb*important line18:26
clarkbconnection reset by peer18:26
sdagueyeh, there was another git fail here -
sdagueso this is the git servers overloading?18:26
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clarkband it happened during image build time18:26
fungithe timing is right at the start of new image updates18:27
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fungiimage builds kick off daily at 14:14 utc18:27
sdaguethe second git fail is a different one18:27
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sdagueok.... so is there anyway to isolate that from not failing ci jobs every time it hits?18:27
fungiand this is after beefing up the load balancer and expanding the pool size to nearly double18:27
clarkbits the same error18:27
clarkb"Connection reset by peer"18:27
fungii think we wanted to add some retry logic into z-c?18:28
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Add git https slowness work-around for RHEL/Centos 6
sdaguebut it's not out of zuul cloner this time18:28
clarkbthere is already retry logic in the second18:28
sdagueright, it retries 3 times18:28
clarkbwe can host nova and neutron on their own servers18:29
clarkbeveryone else continues to party18:29
fungiwe could reset nova and neutron to fresh git repos (for commits prior to july 2015 see...) ;)18:30
anteayathey'd like that18:31
pelixwondered does zuul-cloner limit the clone depth? never looked just curious18:31
clarkbpelix: no, shallwo clones are broken in various way18:31
fungiso the 3x retry is baked into z-c now, or dig is doing some retry magic not apparent in the log? (or am i blind?)18:31
pelixnot since recent git18:31
clarkband would not help this situation at all aiui18:31
clarkbpelix: recent git is part of what reaks it18:31
fungipelix: ESPECIALLY broken in recent git18:31
pelixah, I thought it was working from 1.9+18:31
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clarkbfungi: I think thats gerrit git prep retrying?18:31
clarkbso z-c isn't doing it yet18:32
fungilatest git releases want to be able to write temporary files inside the repo gitdirs on your git server18:32
clarkbpelix: the issues are server side not client side and ^ happens which is a problem18:32
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fungiclarkb: right, that's why i was wondering what sdague meant about it retrying. i don't think it did. it died when z-c tried once and failed18:32
clarkbBut also the fetch ops need almost a gigabye of memory for nova and I don't think that changes with shallow clones18:32
sdaguefungi: the second failure isn't failing in gitclone18:33
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sdaguefungi: sorry in zuul cloner18:33
sdagueit's failing to git clone in a shell loop18:33
sdaguewith retry logic18:33
sdaguebut fails the same way18:33
fungisdague: in the log you pasted18:33
fungioh! you pasted links to two logs18:33
Shrewsmordred: bah, i missed something in your identity changes.18:33
fungino wonder i'm spaced18:33
pelixclarkb: would have thought the large memory usage was due to walking the entire tree and needing to cache every object reachable?18:33
sdaguefungi: yeh, sorry, there was a second one18:34
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clarkbpelix: nova isn't that big even if it were caching everything18:34
clarkbit seems to do with determining packfile contents then constructing that packfile18:34
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clarkbit is entirely possible the memory overhead is related to old git htough18:35
clarkbjust like the https slowness18:35
fungicould be18:35
fungii also wonder if changing to not replicating gerrit refs would make things go any faster18:35
sdaguethere are a lot of gerrit refs for sure18:36
fungihowever, i do from time to time find that i like having the gerrit refs replicated18:36
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pelixif you're cloning all refs, even a shallow clone won't help, since it's depth 1 for all refs not just master18:36
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fungiwe're not cloning all refs, just branches and tags18:37
fungiit's not a full --mirror18:37
pelixstill enough to pull a lot of objects instead of just the most recent...18:37
fungiit's definitely still a lot of commits18:37
clarkbexcept its only a delta of one day18:38
clarkbwhich is why I think the real cost is in calculating the pack file then custom building it for each operation18:38
fungiwell... depends on what you're talking about now18:38
clarkbfungi: anything zuul-cloner or devstack-gate18:38
fungifor dib and in the jobs themselves it's only a day's delta18:38
fungifor image updates built on snapshots we're doing fresh clones, many at the same time in fact, which is i think the source of the impact18:39
fungiand also other people reusing our nodepool configs likely have not changed the 14:14 cron18:39
openstackgerritJohn Patterson proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Adding Flowdock as a supported publisher
sdaguefungi: why is it fresh clones in the snapshots?18:40
fungisdague: because snapshot builds are based on images from our providers18:40
fungisdague: one of the reasons we're so eager to finish transitioning to dib18:40
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sdaguefungi: oh, they are always based on base image?18:40
sdagueI thought their was a base snapshot18:41
sdaguemy misunderstanding18:41
fungii suppose we _could_ work around it by updating a cache on a cinder volume, detaching and reattaching to the template instances one at a time to copy in the cache, but dib is on the way18:41
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-meetbot: Migrate to puppet-httpd module
krotscheckAnyone around to setup correct ACL's on,access ?18:42
fungispeaking of on the way, i need to get on my way. back (much later) tonight18:42
clarkbfungi: speaking of did we switch the multinode test env to it yet?18:42
clarkbfungi: glhf18:42
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: WIP: Migrate to puppet-httpd module
fungiclarkb: i think we approved that change but i haven't double-checked since18:42
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clarkblooking into it now, gl18:42
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clarkbhrm only my +2 on
clarkbpleia2: jeblair ^18:43
sdaguethe subnodes are now working, if that was the data point18:43
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pelixclarkb: presume this slowness is with cloning via gerrit as opposed to cgit?18:43
clarkbpelix: neither18:43
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clarkbpelix: git daemon and smart http by way of git's cgi script appear to be affected18:44
EmilienManteaya: I can do the rebase in 10 min18:44
pelixand bitmap indexes have been created to see if they help with the packfiles or not?18:45
anteayaEmilienM: well can you address the comments about the added job?18:45
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anteayaEmilienM: because that is mostly my concern18:45
EmilienManteaya: ack18:45
anteayamarekd: can you address the comments in this patch please?
clarkbpelix: we pack refs and objects daily iirc, not sure if we are doing bitmap indexes18:46
pleia2clarkb: I'm struggling with that commit message again, does it mean that devstack-trusty-2-node is too long, but ubuntu-trusty-2-node is not?18:46
anteayapleia2: the commit message syntax between project-config rename patches and the governance patches seem to be rather a free for all18:46
clarkbpelix: a quick check of gits documentation implies we may not be able to do that with our version of git so no18:46
anteayapleia2: my major concern is ensuring accuracy creating the electoral roll18:46
pelixI could be wrong but I think that use of the bitmap indexes reduces the need to recalculate packfile contents and the ability to reach objects18:46
pleia2anteaya: sorry, I was talking about - not renames18:46
anteayapleia2: I have made some comments in the patches concerned, what would you have me do18:47
sdagueclarkb: which git version is on those nodes?18:47
anteayapleia2: yes, I am introducing my thoughts on renames and comment syntax18:47
pleia2anteaya: I'll have a look at yours in a moment :)18:47
anteayapleia2: thanks18:47
* anteaya queues18:47
jeblairclarkb, fungi, sdague: EmilienM reported a similar incident this morning about the same time.  the git servers did not seem unduly stressed.  the other was in rax-ord, this was in rax-dfw.  i wonder if there was a network blip?18:47
clarkbsdague: 1.7.1 iirc18:47
clarkbjeblair: that is quite possible as well18:47
pelixclarkb: creating the bitmap index would be a server side only option, so might be worth testing since that part is under your control ;)18:49
sdaguejeblair: it would have to be a longish blip, because the 3 retrys over 3 seconds18:49
clarkbpelix: yes except we cannot see scrollback18:49
sdagueif it was a physical issue, wouldn't the tcp connect stack up on the subsequent ones?18:49
jeblairsdague: right, it's actually the long duration that's making me think it's something other than simply being overloaded.18:49
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pelixclarkb: wasn't suggesting you try it out on the existing machines, but test it elsewhere first to see if it's worth looking at updating to a newer git for your servers18:50
jeblairsdague: have you characterized the instances that hit it?18:50
jeblairi'm digging into haproxy logs18:51
sdagueclarkb any idea if jogo had some notes on the 35 fails in multinode jobs? my grenade multinode patch makes things no worse, but it would be nice to understand those18:51
sdaguejeblair: I have not yet, I can do that now18:51
clarkbpelix: anyone is capable of testing it if we don't need the servers18:51
clarkbpelix: your comment about the servers being required implied I should test on the servers where it is not possible18:51
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pelixjust meant that if it works, it's a server side only fix, so no need to worry about the client version18:52
jeblairsdague, clarkb, fungi: the ipv6 for the host used in this run does not appear in the haproxy logs:
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clarkbjeblair: interesting18:52
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clarkbsdague: no I am not aware of any multinode test fail notes beyond the hostname thing and whatever the issue was before that18:53
jeblair(at least, during the time period of that run; it shows up 7 hours earlier in a previous run because it was reused)18:53
clarkbjeblair: need a printing press? the oregonian is selling theirs18:53
sdaguejeblair: so interestingly, here is a job that recovers -
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sdagueoh, so sorry, looking at the timeline for - that's over minutes18:55
openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Added npm publish to eslint-config-openstack
openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Added npm publish job.
sdagueand could be physical, because there are long delays in there, where we might just be hanging on tcp connect18:55
jeblairclarkb: it probably wouldn't fit in my apartment :/18:56
lifelessmancdaz: hi, I was trying to find your issue in the discussion with mordred but I'm just confused sorry :)18:56
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jeblairclarkb, sdague: the haproxy connection queues were empty at the time, and the backends connection counts were about as high as they are now18:58
sdagueyeh, it looks like it's all rax nodes18:58
sdaguebut it's all 3 regions18:58
lifelesssigmavirus24: so I just loath what devstack merged18:58
pleia2anteaya: I think there's a lot of confusion around what needs governance changes and the direction of depends, even I'm confused :) I believe for renames that move into openstack/ they do depend on a governance change, but for new projects it's other way around (governance depends on repo addition), the latter is documented, I'm not sure we document the renames18:58
sdagueif you '+' build_node it shows it18:59
lifelesssigmavirus24: and I was hoping you could jump in with a revert + a better way of doing what the person wanted18:59
jeblairsdague: rax is doing network maintenance, but disruption should only be "2 seconds"18:59
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sdagueit is clearly longer than 2 seconds :)18:59
anteayapleia2: the thing I'm concerned about is the governance patches fail to mention the project config change18:59
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pleia2anteaya: I'd be more concerned if it were the other way around19:00
anteayapleia2: so we are in a situation of possibly becoming (if we arent' already) out of sync knowing our status for scripts generating things like electoral rolls19:00
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anteayapleia2: well if you do'nt care, I don't care19:00
sigmavirus24lifeless: I totally could but I don't feel super comfortable with all of devstack's plumbing to be honest. I might look into it tonight though at the local python users group19:00
lifelessmordred: was the review I linked to sigmavirus2419:00
anteayait is easier to push a button than sort it all out19:00
pleia2anteaya: I think we should write documentation on how to do a rename and then start caring more :)19:00
anteayawe have documentation I think19:01
sigmavirus24lifeless: yeah I grabbed it and showed mordred he agrees with us19:01
pleia2anteaya: I can't find it19:01
anteayapleia2: folks don't read it and just cargo cult19:01
anteayaokay well if you want to do go that route19:01
jeblairsdague, clarkb: particularly with the ip not showing up in the haproxy log while connection queues are empty i'm leaning toward "problem between worker and git server".19:01
anteayaI don't have any hope it will make any difference personally19:01
sdaguejeblair: yep19:01
clarkbjeblair: +119:01
sdaguecool, thanks for looking at it19:01
lifelesssigmavirus24: yah19:01
pleia2anteaya: it's fine if they don't read it, I just don't want to have to remember myself and repeat it every time I do a code review19:01
lifelesssigmavirus24: that would be cool!19:02
anteayaokay fair enough19:02
pleia2"here's a link, go do it right" is better on my brain19:02
anteayawhere do you you want to find that documentation when you look for it19:02
jeblairsdague, clarkb: maybe if this continues to happen after rax finishes their "barely disruptive" network maintenance, we open a ticket?19:02
sdaguesounds reasonable19:02
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pleia2anteaya: somewhere in infra-manual, probably under Repository Creator's Guide (where the initial creation + governance dependency docs are)19:03
sigmavirus24lifeless: yeah, I mean, at this point I'm just used to some people in openstack absolutely hating requests19:03
anteayadid you want to draft something or shall I?19:03
pleia2anteaya: I'd  think it should be a final section about renaming19:03
sigmavirus24And I've given up trying to help them solve those issues (either in requests or elsewhere)19:03
sigmavirus24Because some people won't be placated19:03
anteayawell if it is a section about renaming I can see us hitting a big stalemate around giving out a message about renaming when and how19:04
lifelesssigmavirus24: thats sad. Why do they hate requests?19:04
anteayaas that is a topic currently under discussion by the tc19:04
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pleia2anteaya: no wonder these commit messages are all over the board19:05
anteayaI'd like to see something under writing a commit message19:05
lifelesssigmavirus24: or is it like them 'hating testr' - finding it better than the alternatives overall but still there's enough folk using it that have to that you get every gripe under the sun?19:05
anteayalike commit messge syntax19:05
clarkbanteaya: maybe we can distill the old wiki page on commit messages?19:05
sdagueclarkb: I wonder if this is the crux of the multinode issue -
anteayaclarkb: when can you see it going?19:05
pleia2anteaya: I dunno, there are other things related to renames we should document, like that they don't happen over night - we have to schedule them19:05
pleia2we get people in here all the time asking us to approve their renames19:05
clarkbanteaya: under the dev portion of the infra manual maybe?19:06
anteayaI just don't have the energy to champion this19:06
clarkbsdague: that would break ssh19:06
sigmavirus24lifeless: a bit of that and a bit of our docs having become a bit hard to navigate for some impatient people19:06
anteayaas I see it taking a long time19:06
sigmavirus24and a bit of the fact that we encourage people to use requests.packages.urllib3 which some distributions won't work with us on19:06
anteayaI can however muster the energy for accurate commit message docs19:06
sdagueclarkb: yep, it's also failing on the main node -
* clarkb will be so happy when requests/urllib3 stops warning spamming me19:06
anteayaso will start with that19:06
sigmavirus24so vendoring which is something that I think Cory and I would not do if it were totally up to us19:06
pleia2well, I'm happy to draft up a skeleton in infra-manual and then we can fight^Wdiscussion where it should all go and what it should contain :)19:07
sigmavirus24clarkb: start using more secure platforms and complaining to rackspace about its cert =P19:07
anteayapleia2: I'm not arguing any of your points, I just can't ride them over a finish line19:07
sigmavirus24clarkb: I complain to anyone I can find internally19:07
pleia2anteaya: that's fine, I understand19:07
anteayapleia2: oh okay, i'll stand by for you and offer my support to your effort19:07
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anteayapleia2: I have enough energy for that19:07
lifeless\o/ <- constraints files being used by other folk19:07
pleia2after doing change reviews, I'd like to pitch in again with the sprint after lunch, so I'll work on it tomorrow or monday19:07
clarkbsigmavirus24: "start using more secure platforms" my major gripe with that is we all used those less secure platforms for years and no one thgouth  we should irritate the hell out of all our users until recentkyl19:08
vipulanteaya: Yep.. that's me - looking19:08
anteayavipul: thank you19:08
clarkbsigmavirus24: I think we can survive while the distros transition to secure python19:08
pleia2but now, lunch :)19:08
pleia2then rename reviews, then sprint19:08
sigmavirus24clarkb: yes and "ehhh I'd rather have more educated users than not"19:08
clarkbsigmavirus24: yes and I have said one warning per invocation is 100% fine19:08
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clarkbone warning per request is now I am mad19:08
sigmavirus24clarkb: yeah, if that's still a problem in 2.7.0 then that's something we need to fix19:09
clarkbit is still a problem19:09
clarkbhas been since the warning went in19:09
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sigmavirus24clarkb: is it the insecureplatformwarning or the subjectaltname warning?19:09
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clarkbsdague: those logs aren't very verbose19:11
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sigmavirus24So I think InsecurePlatformWarnings are fixed but not released. The subjectAltName warnings could be probably improved. I think someone suggested using the hostname in the warning which if we made it default would then be once per connection a host19:11
clarkbsdague: is it essentially saying it asked the db and didn't get any results?19:12
sigmavirus24Is that reasonable or do you still only want once per time it's seen?19:12
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-askbot: Migrate to puppet-httpd module
clarkbsigmavirus24: I think once per time its seen is best for warnings19:12
clarkbif it isn't an error or debugging info then warn me once and get out of the way19:12
sigmavirus24clarkb: right, I'm pretty sure that's the default19:12
sigmavirus24We have it set to "always" right now though19:12
lifelesssigmavirus24: the one that annoys me is seeing it pop up three times in a single pip call19:13
clarkbsigmavirus24: once per unique remote host would be fine for the altname19:13
sigmavirus24clarkb: glad we agree :)19:13
sigmavirus24lifeless: why is that popping up for pip?19:13
sigmavirus24and which is popping up? InsecurePlatformWarning?19:13
openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Create a nodepool node as
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Shrewsclarkb: what version of ubuntu are running devstack testing?19:15
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krotscheckAnyone able to update ACL's for this project?,access19:15
lifelesssigmavirus24: and chase links19:15
krotscheckOr am I asking in the wrong channel?19:16
jeblairShrews: trusty by default; you can verify by looking at the node name19:16
clarkbShrews: most of it is trusty19:16
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clarkbkrotscheck: you do it with a change to project-config19:16
clarkbkrotscheck: look in project-config/gerrit/acls19:16
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jeblairkrotscheck: or do you want initial group members added?19:17
sigmavirus24lifeless: ah yeah, that should only happen once after we release a new requests19:17
krotscheckclarkb: You mean adding the group to another group.19:17
sigmavirus24lifeless: also amusing that in your initial issue you said "install pip 2.7.9" I know you meant Python but still gave me a chuckle19:17
krotscheckclarkb: mtreinish is under the impression that adding openstack-qa to that project is a manual step.19:17
clarkbkrotscheck: maybe I don't follow, to edit the contents of the page you linked is a project-config change. To edit initial group membership is a gerrit admin step19:17
lifelesssigmavirus24: whups :)19:18
mtreinishclarkb: has the group been initially populated?19:18
krotscheckclarkb: I'm trying to make the thing happen that's described in this comment:
mtreinishif it has been I can walk krotscheck through the steps19:18
clarkbwhich group?19:18
jeblairthey have not19:18
mtreinishthe eslint-config-openstack-core and eslint-config-openstack-release19:18
jeblairmtreinish, krotscheck: one of you needs to say "Add ____ to ____" and we'll do it.  :)19:18
mtreinishjeblair: add me to both groups and I'll take care of the setup19:19
krotscheckOh good19:19
jeblairmtreinish: done! :)19:19
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mtreinishjeblair: great thanks19:19
lifelessreminder that I have fixes for the kilo check-requirements jobs that just need reviewers19:20
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Remove duplicate puppet module list variable
lifelessI'll try to get the juno ones debugged today19:20
krotscheckI think I'm going to wait for fungi to come back from his lawyer things before I start talking about
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sdagueclarkb: so... actually, I think there is a new hostname issue19:22
sdagueclarkb: do we have mysql dumps here?19:23
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sigmavirus24clarkb: lifeless
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sdagueclarkb: because I think in whatever change was made, the hypervisor_hostname of both nodes is now ubuntu19:25
sdaguethat's supposed to be unique19:26
sdagueso... a lot of badness falls out of that19:26
sdaguemordred, I think you poked at this, right?19:26
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openstackgerritMikhail S Medvedev proposed openstack-infra/system-config:     Move out server class from logstash.pp
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openstackgerritDavide Agnello proposed openstack-infra/project-config: fixing cue rally test job
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clarkbsdague: I do't think we db dump anywhere19:34
sdaguewell, I'm pretty sure I know what it will look like by looking at my local env19:34
clarkbsdague: dansmith says this was a design decision from the dawn of nova but maybe its time to reconsdier it?19:34
clarkbnothing says hostnames have to be unique...19:34
dansmithnova says19:35
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clarkb(I say while having no familiarity with the code)19:35
sdagueyeh, it's pretty deeply baked in19:35
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dansmithwe can change it, but I honestly see no reason to19:35
clarkbwhich is funny because nova lets you boot multiple nodes with the same name :)19:35
dansmithit just creates indirection for us to look up, and makes it harder for admins (IMHO)19:35
sdagueclarkb: well, I have issues with that as well, personally :)19:36
dansmithclarkb: well, they claim to be the same node and we don't implement a cluster membership service, so... :D19:36
clarkbdansmith: sorry VMs19:36
clarkbits perfectly valid to as a single tenant boot two VMs called foo19:36
dansmithbut these are virtual things and the key is uuid19:36
dansmithand I'd love it if it didn't let us do multiple foo vms19:37
dansmithbecause it's so annoying19:37
sdaguewell, regardless of the various merrits here of theory, if we would like to move forward in the near term, we need different host names19:37
dansmithalso, merits19:37
sdaguedansmith: ++ I'd be pro name must be unique per tenant19:37
clarkbsdague: in theory the change to use dib based images iwth latest glean fxies that19:37
dansmithsdague: yeah19:37
clarkbI hvae +2'd that chang ebut need another core to look at it19:37
sdagueclarkb: so... how close is that theory to go?19:38
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clarkbor I suppose I can approve with one +2 since its broken anyways19:38
sdagueclarkb: which repo is it on?19:38
clarkbgetting a link now19:38
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EmilienMmordred: what's up about rubygem mirror?19:39
EmilienMGem::RemoteFetcher::FetchError: bad response Not Found 404 is  happening right now in our CI19:39
EmilienMand we are stuck (in the middle of our Kilo release)19:40
clarkbEmilienM: are you saying the mirror isn't working or wanting a status update on the mirror?19:40
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sdagueclarkb: so after that, what will the hostnames be?19:40
clarkbI am not sure where we are in the mirring process19:40
sdagueI guess I don't understand the implications19:40
clarkbsdague: they should be the nodepool node name19:40
EmilienMclarkb: I would like to know what's up about
clarkbsdague: because that image uses glean to set the hostname19:40
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sdagueclarkb: and that doesn't exceed the 63 characters?19:40
clarkbsdague: no19:41
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sdaguepleia2 / jeblair / fungi - pretty please to get multinode moving forward again?19:42
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* Clint notes that pleia2 left a question19:43
tqtrancan i bug some cores to take a look at ?19:43
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clarkbEmilienM: a quick scan says it likely needs someone to hand hold due to the pypi mirror move19:46
clarkbI have no idea if that will break the pypi mirror not19:46
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clarkbEmilienM: the change itself looks good so will leave a review but I can't approve until we figure ou the process for exisitng pypi mirror19:47
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EmilienMclarkb: ok np19:47
clarkbalso any idea how big rubygems is? we likely need bigger volumes too19:47
EmilienMno it's fine19:47
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EmilienMwe checked it was much less than 1G19:48
EmilienMI can't remember exactly, but it was totally fine19:48
clarkbwat how is rubygems <1GB?19:48
openstackgerritMikhail S Medvedev proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Move out server class from logstash.pp
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clarkbEmilienM: googling tells me 200GB ish19:50
anteayathey don't need all ruby gems19:50
clarkbwhere does that change restrict the ruby gems?19:50
anteayajust the ruby gems they use19:50
clarkbthere is juts from, to, and parallelsim19:50
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openstackgerritMikhail S Medvedev proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Move out server class from logstash_worker.pp
jogosdague: I have some notes at home about the different types of issues. If I remember correctly there is an issue with network connectivity after an instance is moved in nova network19:52
openstackgerritMikhail S Medvedev proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Move out server class from subunit_worker.pp
jogosdague: and an issue with nova-compute just hanging and not even responding to SIGUSR119:52
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openstackgerritMikhail S Medvedev proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Move out server class from elasticsearch_node.pp
jogono idea why but my hunch is it is multihost related19:53
sdaguejogo: ok, well we're still recovering from hostname issues19:53
sdague35 failures is sort of code for "no guests actually started"19:53
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jogosdague: yeah .. hostnames woulddo that19:53
jogoyup still 100% failure
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jogoAFAIK a patch landed to fix that I think clarkb was involved19:55
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clarkbjogo: no, we arne't acutally using the glean nodes yet so while we in hteory fixed it for that image we aren't using the image yet. change is up to actually use the image19:55
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jogoclarkb: ahh that explains it19:56
sdaguejogo: right, now all nodes are 'ubuntu' hostname19:56
sdaguewhich... doesn't so much work19:57
sdaguegiven that's our compute node key19:57
sdaguefor updates19:57
sdagueok, I'm calling it for the day. Hopefully that patch will get approved and we can take the next step towards getting multinode back somewhere close.19:58
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jeblairsdague, mordred: pleia2 has a perfectly good objection to the commit message in and i have a -1 because i think it will cause all kinds of problems for us as written20:01
jogosdague: before the subnodes on one cloud had names that were over the 63 char limit too20:01
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Partial migrate to puppet-httpd module
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SpamapSpleia2: ops mid-cycle is in Palo Alto. Do you want to try and have a CalTrain vs. SouthWest race? ;-)20:11
SpamapSoh wait20:11
SpamapSI think I'll be in Taiwan August 1120:11
lifelesssigmavirus24: cool20:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Replace coinor.pulp with pulp.
sigmavirus24lifeless: ?20:12
lifelesssigmavirus24: the urllib3 change20:12
sigmavirus24oh yeah20:12
sigmavirus24that merged way faster than I expected20:12
lifelesssigmavirus24: dunno if you saw but I have shaken out20:13
sigmavirus24I saw the message on the ML20:13
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sigmavirus24lifeless: Also +1 on moving unittest2 to GitHub. That's where I initially looked for it and then I went to unittest2's pypi page and found the link there20:14
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lifelesssigmavirus24: the main reason is for tooling - pbr solves enough glitches ... :)20:16
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sigmavirus24pbr only works with git?20:16
lifelessatm yes20:17
* sigmavirus24 nods20:18
sigmavirus24To be honest, i want to tear out the mercurial support from flake820:18
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sigmavirus24Make it it's own package20:18
lifelessI'd be open to hg being added, and would advocate amongst other devs for that.... if someone else was doing the work20:19
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sigmavirus24lifeless: careful20:19
lifelesssigmavirus24: what does flake8 do with vcs's ?20:19
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sigmavirus24apparently if you import anything from mercurial, it contaminates your codebase with GPL20:19
sigmavirus24lifeless: hooks in, e.g., pre-commit hooks for git20:19
lifelesssigmavirus24: CLI20:19
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sigmavirus24lifeless: fair20:19
davideagnelloHello, need small update to our Rally CI Job to be merged:  Thank you20:20
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SpamapSgreghaynes: perhaps you would want to go to the ops mid-cycle?20:22
SpamapScrinkle: or you? :)20:22
crinklei would go to ops midcycle20:22
SpamapSjust thinking of people for whom it is a short trip. :)20:22
SpamapScrinkle: Palo Alto, Aug 11-1220:22
crinkledid they decide where it would be?20:22
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SpamapSI read that wrong20:23
SpamapSAug 18 - 1920:23
pleia2SpamapS: oof, I get home from peru on the 17th, so I guess it would be possible to attend20:23
SpamapSso I might be available too.. I think we should only send 2 from infra though. I mostly just want to talk to people about what we're doing and see if they might have advice or would like to help. :)20:24
pleia2I'll have to think about it20:24
SpamapSpleia2: I really do think it is equidistant in terms of time for both of us. ;)20:24
SpamapSthough PA is at least a little closer to DT SF than Sunnyvale right? :)20:24
pleia2my husband isn't going into the office on the 18th (day off to recover from travel) so it's an extra long day for me since he can't pick me up, public transit again20:25
SpamapSew yeah20:25
SpamapSno lets find others. :)20:25
SpamapSbecause it's pretty easy to get to PA from SJC20:25
SpamapSbut I do think we should attend from both the standpoint of infra-cloud-we're-operators-now and also to see if infra is helping operators participate and collaborate in the dev process.20:25
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openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Move jenkins job builder into jenkins_master
openstackgerritMikhail S Medvedev proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Move out server class from logstash.pp
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-elastic_recheck: Fix variable access warnings
openstackgerritMikhail S Medvedev proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Move out server class from elasticsearch_node.pp
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackid: Fix variable access warnings
pleia2anteaya: ok, looks like cue, puppet-murano and keystoneauth-saml2 have some issues, hopefully the owners of those patches will fix things up before tomorrow, otherwise we'll make some decisions about what to do20:40
vipulpleia2: pushing up fix for cue in a couple of mins20:40
pleia2vipul: wonderful, thank you :)20:40
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clarkbjeblair: thanks for the review on the ubuntu-trusty switch change20:44
clarkbmordred: ^ care to address that?20:44
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-zuul: Fix variable access warnings
EmilienMwhen a patch fails in the gate, is it better/faster to run 'recheck' ? or +2 +A will just retrigger zuul again?20:46
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clarkbEmilienM: they are equivalent as anything with a -1 will need to be re checked then go into the gate20:47
EmilienMclarkb: ah ok thanks20:47
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-elasticsearch: Fix variable access warnings
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openstackgerritVipul Sabhaya proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Move Cue and related repos to OpenStack namespace
openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/system-config: use updated jenkins_master.pp manifest
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-graphite: Fix variable access warnings
mordredclarkb: sure - one sec20:52
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mordredjeblair: nod on commit message and the review. thanks!20:53
davideagnelloHello, need small update to our Rally CI Job to be merged:  Thank you20:54
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-mailman: Fix variable access warnings
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-statusbot: Fix variable access warnings
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greghaynesSpamapS: got a link to ops mid-cycle?21:04
greghaynescurious when21:04
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greghaynesSpamapS: yea, good timing, was just booking somethibg tonight that would have conflicted21:06
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pleia2so many august conflicts21:07
pleia2suppose it doesnt help that they decided barely a month out21:07
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clarkbalso august is best time for all the things this hemisphere21:08
Clintbest time for air conditioning21:08
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clarkbthat too21:08
pleia2well, it'll be winter in peru, but so close to the equator it doesn't matter so much ;)21:08
clarkbbut it doesn't rain21:08
clarkband the sun is out for long days21:09
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anteayaif anyone cares I'm going to the ops meetup21:14
* sigmavirus24 cares but won't be there21:15
anteayaI wouldn't count my hand strong from the infra-cloud perspective as I am bringing up the rear there21:15
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anteayaI'm mostly from the neutron/nova get a network that folks will use perspective21:15
mordredI am not going to the ops midcycle21:15
mordredI will be on the beach in bali21:16
anteayayou seem to be doing a beach tour this summer21:16
Clintone of us will have to do a winter beach tour to maintain balance21:17
anteayayou offering?21:17
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-httpd: Fix variable access warnings
pleia2that's what is for21:17
Clinti may be offering to go to the beach in winter21:17
anteayaI'm hearing antartica is beautiful21:17
anteayaah yes21:17
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hogepodgeIs there any possibility of getting this reviewed this evening? The diversity committee would like to start using the logs and meetbot asap
hogepodgeUnderstanding that we don't want to restart meetbot in the middle of the day21:19
clarkbhogepodge: let me check the meeting list for this afternoon21:19
hogepodgeThis is also the same thing for refstack.
hogepodgethanks clarkb21:20
clarkbdo we treat the ics file on eavesdrop as canonical?21:20
clarkber ical21:20
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anteayavipul: thank you21:20
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pleia2clarkb: I'd say yes21:21
anteayaI thought the canonical ical was the irc-meetings repo21:22
clarkbcool looks like 0000 is clear today21:22
clarkbanteaya: aren't they the same21:22
openstackgerritDave Walker proposed openstack/requirements: Adding openstack/anchor to projects.txt
clarkbhogepodge: so remind me in a couple hours and I will approve21:23
hogepodgeclarkb: thanks21:23
pleia2yeah, the ical is generated from the irc-meetings repo21:23
hogepodgethat reminds me, the defcore entry for that is incorrect21:23
* hogepodge makes note to fix21:24
anteayapleia2 clarkb okay21:24
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openstackgerritDave Walker proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add check-requirements job to openstack/anchor
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clarkbhogepodge: double checking we are clear at 4pm PDT so will approve just before then21:31
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zigolifeless: mordred: Not sure who maintains PBR these days, but I get a hard fail when trying to package nova, because the version I want to use is 12.0.0~b121:37
zigoPBR doesn't like the ~ char.21:37
zigoHowever, that's the standard one in Debian / Ubuntu for saying "lower than what's just before".21:37
zigoOh no...21:37
zigoThe issue is with sphinx ! :(21:37
zigoHere's the trace:21:37
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zigoI think I'd patch pbr to do:21:37
zigo+                elif component.startswith('~'):21:37
zigo+                    dev_count = int(component[1:])21:37
zigoIs this correct?21:37
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zigoOh, there's also on top some other chars ...21:38
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zigomordred: lifeless: That's a piece of code mostly from Robert, and patched by Monty, so I'd expect both of you to know what's the best way to patch it. If you give me an advice on how to fix, I can work on the CR.21:40
mordredzigo: nope!21:41
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zigomordred: Is "git blame" lying? :)21:41
mordredzigo: pbr does not support versions with ~'s on purpose - those are not python versions, they are debian versions. however, there is support for debian packagers mapping pep440 versions to debian versions21:41
mordredzigo: I'll let lifeless respond with more details when he's online - but it was a use case that was very specifically designed for21:42
SpamapSas powerful as ~ is... it will drive you nuts trying to implement a sort for versions with it.21:42
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zigoWell, the current issue is that nova cannot be built because sphinx-build just fails asking PBR about versions.21:43
zigoWhat do you propose I do then?21:43
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zigomordred: ^21:45
mordredzigo: I propose you do not set a debian version as the pbr version21:45
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zigomordred: I'm sorry, I don't understand.21:45
zigomordred: I intend to upload nova as 12.0.0~b1, then I should tell pbr something else?21:45
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mordredyou should not tell pbr _anything_ about 12.0.0~b1 - you shoudl put taht into your debian changelog21:46
zigomordred: Like, replace 12.0.0~b1 back to
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mordredlet's pretend for a second that you were packaging a tarball we had produced (I know you're not, we'll come back to that in a sec)21:46
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mordredwe would publish a tarball called nova- - you would import that as nova_12.0.0.0b1.orig.tar.gz21:47
zigoNo, I wouldn't.21:47
zigoBecause would be considered higher than 12.0.0 by dpkg.21:47
mordredoh - sorry - I didn't mean you'd upload that as nova-
zigoTry dpkg --compare-version ...21:48
mordredI understand21:48
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mordredyou need an orig tar.gz and you need a debian/changelog entry and you need to use those to produce debs21:48
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zigoWhat I currently do is retag 12.0.0_b1 on top of the, which by the way keeps the pgp signature.21:49
mordredso maybe all you need to do is rename the orig.tar.gz to ~b1 - set that in the debian/changelog21:49
zigoYes, which is what I do.21:49
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mordredso why is pbr getting involved? are you running sdist again?21:49
zigoThen I have some logic in debian/rules to calculate what I give to PBR as OSLO_PACKAGE_VERSION depending on the last entry in changelog.21:49
zigoIt's been working so far, until we upgraded PBR to the latest version, and now nova fails with PBR not liking the ~ char.21:50
zigoI don't mind calculating things back to
mordredyeah - you need to feed that to pbr21:51
zigoBut I'm affraid of unknown consequences.21:51
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zigoSo, I'd just convert ~ back to .0, that's easy enough...21:51
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zigoA quick sed ... :)21:51
lifelesshi so21:51
mordredyay it's lifeless!21:51
austin81Hey all, I'm having an issue with getting tempest + devstack to run against my cloud instance. Tempest doesn't get more than a dozen or so tests in before crashing spectacularly and taking down the CI with it. I haven't found a trace of what went wrong in the logs anywhere, it simply bricks the instance without a word and eventually ends with SSH terminating in a broken pipe. Anyone seen this before or have any guidance?21:51
zigoI wont have unforseen consequences?21:51
lifeless12.0.0b1 - if you query pbr.version.Version(nova).debian_version()21:51
mordredzigo: I pass you off to liveless21:52
lifelessit should spit out 12.0.0~b1 for you21:52
lifelessthe version within Nova (and Python packages in general) MUST be a Python version number21:52
lifelessnot Debian21:52
zigomordred: Cheers!21:52
lifelessyou can reflect out a debian version number from that21:52
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lifelessand we wrote the code to do that21:52
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zigolifeless: So, doing a convertion ~ -> .0 from what I have in debian/changelog and give that as OSLO_PACKAGE_VERSION is correct?21:53
zigo(just double checking here...)21:53
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lifelesszigo: no21:55
lifelesszigo: PEP-440 has its own mechanisms for sort-before.21:55
zigoWhat shall I do then?21:55
lifelesszigo: .0 is not one of them.21:55
lifelesszigo: pre-releases - a/b/rc - are sort-before21:55
lifelesszigo: as are dev versions21:55
lifelesszigo: so if you're overriding via OSLO_PACKAGE_VERSION (I'm not sure why you are, but thats a different discussion)21:56
lifelesszigo: Something like 12.0.0b121:56
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zigolifeless: What I was meaning is transforming ~b1 into .0b121:56
mordredlifeless: I believe he means s/12.0.0~b1/
zigoEffectively, this means ~ to be transformed into .021:56
mordredlifeless: based on the latest debian/changelog entry21:57
lifelesszigo: I see what you're saying, but thats not the reason it works.21:57
* zigo is getting very confused here.21:57
lifelesszigo: its ~b -> b21:57
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lifelessgimme a sec, let me double check something21:57
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mordredI also have no idea why OSLO_PACKAGE_VERSION should need to get set, because that implies you're rebuilding the source tarball at package build time21:58
zigos/12.0.0~b1/ is exactly the same thing as s/~/.0/21:58
lifelesszigo: ah, we did go for .0bN21:58
zigomordred: I've been using this for *years*, as this was the solution to the issue I had with PBR trying to double-guess things.21:59
lifelesszigo: so yes, 12.0.0~b1 <->
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zigoSo, with OSLO_PACKAGE_VERSION, I'm effectively telling PBR: I know better than you what version I'm packaging.21:59
zigoIs this now the wrong way?21:59
lifelesslets not get distracted22:00
lifelesswe'll never finish the discussion22:00
lifeless12.0.0~b1 <->
lifelesshow you achieve that is up to yoou22:00
lifelesspbr can generate 12.0.0~b1 for you22:00
lifelessor you can generate forit22:00
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lifelessif you want it to generate it: from pbr.version import VersionInfo; semver = VersionInfo('nova').semantic_version(); print(semver.debian_string())22:02
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zigolifeless: FYI: export OSLO_PACKAGE_VERSION=$(dpkg-parsechangelog -S Version | sed -e 's/^[[:digit:]]*://' -e 's/[-].*//' -e 's/~/.0/')22:03
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openstackgerritMadhusudhan Kandadai proposed openstack-infra/project-config: New jobs for neutron-lbaasv2 scenario tests
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zigolifeless: & mordred: Thanks a lot to both of you.22:06
zigoThis was super helpful! :)22:06
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lifelesszigo: yeah no, I understand whats going on there ... and [not today] we need to sit down and see if we can unwind all of that so you can use upstream versions22:06
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zigolifeless: Whenever you want, I'll make myself available.22:08
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davideagnelloHello, need small update to our Rally CI Job to be merged:  Thank you22:45
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openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/requirements: Raise minimum pbr requirement: support env markers
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sc68caldear lord - if you think neutron is bad, has anyone tried Amazon VPC?23:00
clarkbI have never used AWS23:00
mordredme either23:00
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sc68calI don't claim to be a smart man, but holy MOLY I CAN'T SSH INTO MY EC2 INSTANCES23:00
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clarkbdont forget to update the default security groups and attach your router to the external net then connect a floating ip23:01
mordredsc68cal: didn't you know... proper cloud apps don't actually need connectivity to things23:01
mordredsc68cal: if you think you need real networking, you've thought about the problem wrong and shoudl completely redesign23:01
sc68calmordred: lol I'm just trying to set up a throwaway server to play Mektek with my buddies ;_;23:01
mordredand probably need more cloud foundry and docker23:01
Sam-I-Amsc68cal: nerd23:01
* sc68cal cries in the corner23:01
mordredsc68cal: you're forgetting - people don't want servers anymore23:01
greghaynessounds AWSome23:02
clarkbsc68cal: do you need me to show you one of many openstack clouds?23:02
sc68calgreghaynes: nice23:02
clarkbsc68cal: runabove is actually really cheap23:02
clarkband my initial derping with it was happy times23:02
mordredand vexxhost has excellent networking23:02
Sam-I-Ammordred: its all about fancy containers23:02
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mordredand dreamhost gives you ipv623:02
mordredalthough dreamhost's pricing is bong23:02
Sam-I-Amwhats ipv6?23:03
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mordreds/ I / a /23:03
rhe00_is there a way to tell nodepool to reinitialize it's database? nodepool keeps timing out when trying to update it's database.23:04
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Add eavesdrop to #openstack-diversity channel
sc68calit's just awful - I got an NIH grant for someone by using EC2 for scientific computing before everyone realized how cheap spot instances are, and I just started to use EC2 again and it's so different23:04
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anteayamorning jhesketh23:04
clarkbrhe00_: you can drop the db and have it recreate23:05
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clarkbgood morning23:06
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sc68calAh - I see the failure in my ways now - I made the fatal choice of selecting VPC23:16
sc68calinstead of connecting to EC2 classic23:16
sc68calI feel it - I feel the reasons behind "Get me a network now" - so hard.23:16
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clarkbsc68cal: oh thats literally the issue I hvae iwth neutron btw23:19
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anteayasc68cal: feeling it is the first part to understanding it23:20
anteayawho else from neutron do we need to send to aws?23:20
sc68calI've seriously had a saul conversion moment - I have fallen off the donkey - this is nuts.23:20
* anteaya picks sc68cal back up from falling off the donkey23:20
sc68calI was like "oh, I'll just spin up an EC2 instance for like $3 so I can play mektek with my nerd friends - now I need to do advanced routing and network policy?!?!"23:21
anteayaha ha ha23:21
anteayathink how folks who know zip about networking feel23:21
sc68cal(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻23:21
anteayawho want to play a game with their friends23:21
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* anteaya can't wait to see how the logs render that23:21
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anteayawell not much difference between versions in that particular verse but I think this is the saul falling down reference:
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sc68calit's like a combo of that, and the shia labeouf youtube video23:32
openstackgerritDaniel Gonzalez Nothnagel proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Multi-region dg support
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anteayaa cultural melange23:36
openstackgerritDaniel Gonzalez Nothnagel proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Multi-region dg support
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove python26-jobs from futurist
anteayaand in chrome too23:41
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anteayaduring the render they were on the right so I could see them and by the time the page finished loading they disappeared23:41
dimsanteaya: do i need both entries in system-config and project-config for a new irc channel?23:41
anteayawith a horizontal scroll bar on the bottom23:41
anteayadims: what bots do you want in your channel23:41
anteayaall the things?23:41
dimsanteaya: sure, but at least logging23:42
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lifelessmordred: hey in pbr23:42
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lifelessmordred: do we export the current version to sphinx somehow ?23:42
anteayaeavesdrop is logging, that is in system-config which you have23:42
lifelessmordred: and/or the ChangeLog ?23:42
dimsi added 200310,200311 just because i saw the channels i recognized there :)23:42
lifelessmordred: pointers to something I can cargo cult from appreciated23:43
anteayadims: statusbot is announcements from us when things go awry23:43
dimsanteaya: y that will be handy too23:43
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anteayadims: accessbot gives infra channel ops in your channel23:43
mtreinishlifeless: I think the version get's into sphinx, because all the output docs have the devN on the bottom23:44
anteayadims: you might want gerritbot in project-config as well, if you want patch status announcements in channel23:44
mtreinishlifeless: for example:
dimsanteaya: y let's get this going, will file another for patch(es)23:44
sc68calanteaya: ah, you got the same bug I did when it ft. collins23:44
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anteayadims: just edit the project-config one23:44
anteayadims: add an entry to gerritbot23:45
lifelessmtreinish: ahha confoverrides23:45
dimsanteaya: ack, will do23:45
anteayasc68cal: yup23:45
anteayasc68cal: no idea how or why23:45
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mtreinishlifeless: ah, yeah there it is23:46
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anteayasc68cal: ah you're kind to give me credit23:47
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sc68calanteaya: only came up with it based on our conversation23:49
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anteayaokay fair23:49
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anteayaplaying the part of the witnessing rock23:49
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anteayadims: looks like it should go right after dox and before fuel-tracker:
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dimsanteaya: oops, ok23:52
davideagnelloHello, need small update to our Rally CI Job to be merged:  Thank you23:52
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anteayadims: I think that is what you are after, is it not?23:53
dimsanteaya: yep thanks23:53
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add fuel-library channel
anteayahey dims I'm going to be in boston next week, for keystone23:54
dimsanteaya: awesome, i'll see you there23:54
anteayadims: great23:54
anteayaI will be following you to dinner23:54
anteayalooking forward to your choices of restaurant23:54
dimsanteaya: i live in the 'burbs23:55
dimswill try to find some good ones :)23:55
anteayadims: great23:55
anteayadid you want to add gerritbot to your channel?23:55
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anteayathat was the point of my link above, not really commenting on the alphabetizing of your prior patch23:56
anteayabut thanks for the change23:56
dimsanteaya: this one is very near to BU and one of my favorite indian restaurants (
anteayaoh sold23:56
anteayaI don't even have to click23:56
dstanekanteaya: nice! on to Boston23:56
dimsyay dstanek23:56
anteayadstanek: you like Indian food?23:56
anteayacherry nan?23:57
dimsanteaya: i've dragged stevemar and bknudson to an indian place in paris i think23:57
anteayathey have cherry nan?23:57
dstanekanteaya: not sure. never really tried.23:57
anteayaoh my goodness23:57
anteayadstanek: how was it?23:58
anteayadstanek: you have to try Indian food23:58
anteayadims: how was it, sorry tab complete got confused23:58
dstaneki just have to be a little careful about what i eat. still trying to stick with my new diet as best as i can23:58
* anteaya looks at cherry nan somemore23:58
anteayadstanek: ah yes, I remember, I totally support that23:58
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anteayadstanek: well Indian food does go heavy on the clarified butter, otherwise known as ghee23:59
openstackgerritQiming Teng proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add #senlin to the list of eavesdrop channels
dimsdstanek: ++23:59
anteayadstanek: so we will find other restaurants to share a meal23:59

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