Wednesday, 2015-06-24

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anteayafolsk bought them from the states00:00
anteayaand lit them anyway00:00
fungilifeless: high density vacation area. people drive in bringing fireworks with them, set them off from the lawn of whatever rental they're staying in for the week, don't persist long enough for law enforcement to track them down00:00
jeblairfungi, ianw: a ligature?
lifelessfungi: clearly you need drones with lasers00:01
fungijeblair: that's the word i was failing to remember00:01
fungilifeless: i should get right on that00:01
lifelessfungi: :)00:01
anteayafungi: same00:01
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anteayafungi: and property owners that are loud00:01
anteayaI'm working on a theory, the larger your debt the more noise you need to make to justify carrying it00:02
anteayaboat engines are getting louder00:02
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* anteaya goes back to reading meeting logs00:03
krotscheckApparently, this exists:
krotscheckBecause STRICT00:04
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ianwjeblair / fungi : it seems to have really chosen a different character, not done an overlay
ianwof course if you copy it, or inspect the dom, etc, it just looks like an "f" ...00:07
fungiianw: that looks like fi ligature turned mojibake00:08
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ianwok i give up; went to search bugzilla for "firefox glyph" and it turned into
ianwclearly firefox has decided that it can not do "f"00:10
fungiwell, fi00:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Bump minimum requirement for os-client-config
fungiianw: apparently there's a mechanism to turn off ligature translation in firefox00:12
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ianwfungi: i just restarted firefox, and it's back to normal00:13
* ianw doesn't bother filing a "firefox hates the letter f" bug00:15
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mtreinishanteaya: if you get a sec should be quick00:18
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Switch to using constraints files.
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Switch to using constraints files.
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* anteaya looks00:26
anteayamtreinish: I'm going to read the backscroll since you and jeblair were just discussing this, I missed the conclusion the first time00:27
tchaypoAccording to graphite, the periodic-tempet-dsvm-neutron-juno job has only ever had SUCCESS, never a FAIL00:27
tchaypoI find this suspicious, and I suspect that it’s more likely that the FAILs aren’t being recorded, but I don’t where where to look to try to prove this00:28
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anteayamtreinish: thanks for your patience found fungi's thumbs up for the spirit of the patch:
anteayawhich was what I was looking for, or at least an ack00:38
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anteayawe can't get rid of the definitions in jenkins/jobs/projects.yaml yet since devstack-gate also uses the definitions00:41
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mtreinishanteaya: yep, thanks00:44
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openstackgerritChristopher Aedo proposed openstack-infra/puppet-apps_site: Enable CORS for app-catalog
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openstackgerritChristopher Aedo proposed openstack-infra/puppet-apps_site: Enable CORS for app-catalog
nibalizerjeblair: awesome thanks00:57
nibalizerat least the first module I clicked on, I have access00:57
nibalizer_ody: we're looking at doing what we can to display that information as well, so hopefully we can combine efforts00:58
nibalizerright now that would probably look like a dashboard in grafana00:58
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ianwso after some research, there's basically not a puppet 3 for fedora22.  am i wasting my time trying the node deployment stuff with puppet 4 at this point?01:01
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clarkbianw even from puppetlabs?01:04
clarkb looks like not01:04
clarkbpuppet 4 may work or may not, the slave puppet tends to be simple and was easy ish to make work under 301:05
clarkbnibalizer ^01:05
mtreinishclarkb: if you get a sec should be a quick re-review01:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Teach the constraints generator about excludes.
ianwclarkb: <- afaics this is not fixed in a stable branch.  i do tend to get a bit lost as to what comes from where01:07
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morganfainbergclarkb, fungi, anteaya: ping re - this would be very nice to land so we can unbreak folks for a requirements update [unless there is a good reason not to do this]. but in short, middleware for kilo is in a wierd state and we don't want to change the minimums there :(01:09
morganfainbergi can come back and poke at you awesome folks later on though if it's a bit late to consider01:10
clarkbianw ya appears to be missing on 3.x still01:10
morganfainberg(aka tomorrow)01:10
mtreinishclarkb: thanks01:10
anteayamorganfainberg: I'm looking at the linked refrences01:11
morganfainberganteaya: thnx01:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Remove icehouse compat jobs from tempest
clarkbmorganfainberg you can -2 the change until you are ready for it01:11
clarkbnot sure why you need to disable the entire toolchain01:11
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morganfainbergclarkb: because the requirements update can never land in ksm with the check01:12
ianw i guess the main problem is how much of this is not puppet4 ready01:12
morganfainbergclarkb: the minimums in ksm can't be updated, but g-r has minimums that don't match01:12
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clarkbthen update g-r01:12
morganfainbergclarkb: can't because other libraries have minimums already set01:13
clarkbthen ksm is wrobg...01:13
clarkbone of the two needs ti be fixed01:13
clarkbyou dont get a free lunch here01:13
morganfainbergclarkb: take up the minimums with dhellmann and ttx01:13
morganfainbergi was told we cannot update the minimums in a released branch01:13
morganfainbergwhich means we're broken01:13
clarkbespecially with lifeless' work this only works if we have global agreement01:14
morganfainbergeither g-r is wrong and we can't update everyone's minimums or ksm is broken and we can't update ksm's minimums01:14
morganfainbergi'll collect dhellmann tomorrow and you and we can figure out what to do.01:14
clarkbwhy cant we upsate minimums and make a new point release?01:14
morganfainbergclarkb: because it changes the packaging requirements for a stable branch01:14
lifelessmorganfainberg: whats up ?01:15
morganfainbergclarkb: at least this is the reasoning i've been told01:15
clarkbno it doesnt g-r alreadg asserts that for stable01:15
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morganfainberglifeless: so g-r is mismatched from the released keystonemiddleware on the minimums for dependencies01:15
clarkband ksm doesbt agree that should be a bug01:15
morganfainberglifeless: this is stable/kilo01:15
morganfainberglifeless: release team has told me we can't update the minimums on a released branch01:15
morganfainberg(aka stable)01:15
lifelessmorganfainberg: so stable/kilo g-r says what version01:15
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Add upper-constraints.txt.
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Show not-in-global errors again.
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Remove unused test requirement toposort.
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Manual update run to get things aligned.
lifelessmorganfainberg: and the ksm specified in stable/kilo g-r says a different version ?01:16
lifelessmorganfainberg: do the ranges overlap ?01:16
morganfainberglifeless: sec. let me find it. but keystonelcient and other deps have different minimum bounds01:16
morganfainberglifeless: the issue is the upper constraints are also not in place in ksm, so we have liberty deps being installed for people using devstack01:16
morganfainberglifeless: it looks like the ranges do overlap .01:17
lifelessmorganfainberg: for kilojob?01:17
lifelessfor kilo jobs?01:17
morganfainberglifeless: not in gate since g-r wins01:17
morganfainbergbut in people's local environments01:17
morganfainbergwhen they're trying to use devstack01:17
lifelessmorganfainberg: sure, so there's two things here01:17
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lifelessfirstly, we have the social thing where folk are divided about how much breaking changes matter01:18
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lifelesswe're sufficiently divided on it that we *no longer test* that libraries can be used with older releases.01:18
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morganfainberglifeless: so i'm stuck with "we need to place in caps to not break people and match the appropriate kilo upper limits" - and i'm told we can't change minimums.01:18
lifelessthis means that everyone needs to use a capped requirements file or a freeze to do all their installs, in gate or not.01:18
lifelessmorganfainberg: how would changing minimums help ?01:19
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morganfainberglifeless: it doesn't except it lets the requirements update land01:19
clarkbit makes the sync job and check work01:19
morganfainberglifeless: we have a change pending, it can't land because minimums are out of sync with g-r for kilo01:19
lifelessso you want to change the lower bounds for ksm/kilo01:20
morganfainbergupper bounds01:20
morganfainbergis the real issue01:20
lifelessbut yes01:20
lifelessyou want to change requirements for ksm/kilo and do a point release01:20
morganfainbergthe upperbounds are causing the issues since oslo.config for liberty is installed01:20
morganfainberglifeless: and breaking people trying to test with kilo devstack (local systems)01:20
lifelessyes, I understand. This is the consequence of giving up on backwards compat, and not publishing freezes.01:21
morganfainberglifeless: i don't have a strong care about minimums (i trust you, infra, and rel management to provide guidance here)01:21
lifelessmorganfainberg: so, the minimums in ksm woud be changing to align with openstack/requirements.01:21
lifelessmorganfainberg: right ?01:21
morganfainbergyes if we did the straight sync01:21
lifelessWell you have to01:21
lifelessyou can do a partial01:21
lifelessyou can't do a different thing on any given req01:21
morganfainbergthis means we need to get dhellmann and/or ttx on board with updating the ksm minimums01:22
morganfainbergand/or possibly unbreaking if the minimums go down01:22
lifelessyes, I'm just working through the exact proposal01:22
lifelessthe goal is co-installability01:22
lifelesschanging to match the kilo requirements01:22
lifelessis not going to alter coinstallability01:23
lifelesssince g-r is the reference point for that01:23
lifelessso I don't see a concern with the minimums changing *in ksm/kilo*. I would be concerned about changing requirements/kilo.01:23
morganfainbergafaict, the concern is we're changing the minimums that were released with kilo, which affects packaging.01:23
clarkbmost existing installs are more likely to be hurt by the cap too as they would have previously installed latest01:23
lifelessbut it doesn't if we dont' change requirements/kilo01:24
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lifelesssince packaging efforts are the union of restrictions01:24
morganfainberglifeless: i am not disagreeing with you01:24
lifelessanyhow, it has my vote01:24
morganfainberglifeless: i'm just communicating what i've been told with why the requirements thing is broken01:24
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morganfainbergfor ksm.01:24
clarkbright g-r is the packaging reference not ksm01:24
morganfainbergpersonally, i'd rather have it in sycn with g-r01:24
lifelessfolk doing stuff locally should be taking openstack/requirement's kilo branch and using -c global-requirements.txt with pip's develop branch01:25
morganfainbergstrictly speaking.01:25
morganfainbergi'm 100% with you guys.01:25
lifelessI'm pushing as fast as I can to make that consumable by anyone :)01:25
morganfainbergi'm fine going back and saying "the word is ksm needs to be in sync"01:25
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fungii have a hard time believing there exists some distro which packaged ksm but no other openstack libraries/servers/et cetera01:25
lifelessis there a review where that was discussed ?01:25
lifelessalso yay, upper-constraints.txt is a real thing now01:26
lifelessfungi: ^^^01:26
morganfainberglifeless: and
openstackLaunchpad bug 1463988 in keystonemiddleware "oslo.config version error in kilo" [Undecided,New]01:26
fungiso they already (in theory) have packaged requirements versions reflected by the global requirements list rather than by ksm's requirements files01:26
morganfainberglifeless: i was advised to disable req-checks on ksm.01:26
clarkbis upper constraints what we call the pins file that is overlayed the requirementsM01:26
morganfainberglifeless: to land this. if that is the wrong approach please -2
morganfainbergand i'll just make it a "we can't be out of sync" convo instead01:27
morganfainbergto solve the immidiate issue01:27
morganfainbergand then things get better when your work is done lifeless  :)01:27
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tchaypoclarkb: if I’ve understood the way the constraints are going to work, I wouldn’t sya they overlay the requirements, I’d say they’re a superset of the requirements. Requirements are “for X to work, you must install Y and Z”; constraints say “If you’re going to install Y it should be one of these versions"01:31
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fungimorganfainberg: the requirements update patchset last submitted by our automation in 173972 passed all jobs. can you summarize the reason for modifying it? is it just that dhellmann is opposed to requirements syncs on stable branches?01:31
morganfainbergfungi: because the minimums were already set01:32
morganfainbergfungi: or i dont know the original reasons for the -2s01:32
fungimorganfainberg: already set to something consistent with everything else released in kilo, or to something else?01:32
fungiit looks inconsistent based on the auto-sync anyway01:32
morganfainbergyeah i think that was what happened and then the pins got mangled and delayed01:32
mgagnehas the idea of using docker been explored so projects could just provide whatever scripts/install scripts they want to prepare and run the job? I just need an 1-2 minutes executive summary :D01:33
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fungiokay, i'm still not understanding the reason for not wanting it consistent with the versions of requirements for everything else released for kilo, e.g. requirements versions the distros packaged01:34
morganfainbergfungi: lets do a -2 on my requiremetns disable or a -1 at least01:34
morganfainbergand i'll circle up with dhellmann tomorrow and we'll try and resolve this01:34
* anteaya feels better that fungi is not understanding01:34
fungiright now we're saying ksm in kilo works with different requirements versions than other things in kilo01:34
fungiwhich seems specious01:35
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morganfainbergfungi: i'm not disagreeing with you, i'm playing telephone from the releasemangement telling me to leave minimums set as they were01:35
morganfainbergfungi :(01:35
nibalizerianw: clarkb i will look into that tomorrow01:35
fungimgagne: sure, it's not something any distro would ever consider packaging, but there are other deployment models which utilize containers01:35
morganfainbergfungi: i'd rather be 100% in sync with f-r01:35
mgagnefungi: apart from political reasons around packaging docker, any technical ones?01:36
fungimgagne: containers as packages is a nightmare to keep things in sync for security updates, and also basically decomposes any hope of maintaining shared libraries between software01:37
morganfainbergfungi, anteaya, lifeless: so i'll chase this down tomorrow - and hopefullt we can do the simple "be in sync with g-r"01:37
fungimgagne: when you have a containers hammer every deployment problem looks like a nail01:37
morganfainbergclarkb: ^^01:37
anteayamorganfainberg: oh yes, I like the simple solution, however it presents itself01:37
anteayamorganfainberg: I look forward to tomorrow's update01:38
lifelessmorganfainberg: looking now01:38
morganfainberganteaya, clarkb, lifeless, fungi: thank for the time :)01:38
mgagnefungi: I'm working on converting our puppet manifests for jenkins slaves to ansible and now I'm thinking: to hell with those gazillion preinstalled packages, they should provide a Dockerfile and run their stuff in there with pre-job steps if required.01:38
anteayamorganfainberg: :)01:38
lifelessclarkb: yes (13:26 < clarkb> is upper constraints what we call the pins file that is overlayed the requirementsM01:38
mgagnefungi: or use bindep someone might say01:39
lifelessmorganfainberg: I don't have -2 there ;))01:39
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fungimgagne: basically if you say that the liberty release of nova needs oslo.messaging 2.0.0 and the liberty release of cinder needs oslo.messaging 3.0.0 then a distro will need to maintain two versions of oslo.messaging if they're going to also package both cinder and nova for liberty01:39
lifelessmorganfainberg: that bug report is buggy.01:40
lifelessmorganfainberg: I'm going to test out the issue01:40
morganfainberglifeless: hehe -1 is good enough01:40
morganfainberglifeless: and i've had that report 2-3 times now minimum01:40
morganfainberglifeless: both in IRC and on LP01:40
lifelessI believe the deps issue01:40
lifelessbut some of the nuance may be because we haven't shared well enough01:41
fungimgagne: assuming you're suggesting containers as a "solution" to the requirements sync problem (i.e. just stop caring about coinstallability and sandbox every service)01:41
mgagnefungi: sorry if I made it sound like a suggestion to fix the g-r problems. I'm more or less suggesting a different way to provision and run the test env, provisioning which is currently done with Puppet. I'm trying to get ride of preinstalling too many packages.01:42
fungimgagne: oh, we're already solving that by switching to systems with nothing preinstalled except the bare minimum needed to boot01:43
lifelessmorganfainberg: so it works for me01:43
lifelessusing the documented interface01:43
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mgagnefungi: but I might be a bit too optimistic and not thinking about use cases I'm not fully aware of like integration which needs to run 56 services at the same time while testing against APIs01:43
mgagnefungi: that's bindep right?01:44
fungimgagne: no, bindep is just a small convenience to make that solution simpler01:44
fungimgagne: the solution is to have each job install the dependencies it needs01:44
SpamapSlifeless: vlan25 ... refresh my memory.. was there something else we had to do to get traffic from the real internet to appear on a port that seems to have vlan25 configured?01:44
mgagnefungi: is there any spec or etherpad I can read? I don't want to have you repeat the same things if it's available somewhere01:45
lifelessSpamapS: check the documentation spreadsheet01:45
lifelessSpamapS: its all there01:45
SpamapSlifeless: ohhhh right!01:45
fungimgagne: er, not that i remember. it's pretty simple though. we've got a list of packages which we currently install on our "bare" (i.e. thick) workers where unit tests run, and we're going to pre-cache those instead of preinstalling them01:46
fungimgagne: then we're going to install them at job runtime instead, but allow individual repos to provide a substitute list of what to install instead of that default list01:47
SpamapSlifeless: hrm, "CD Cloud Admin Data" ?01:47
fungimgagne: what i'm working on right now is a means to find all those alternative lists while we're building our worker images so we can safely pre-cache everything any particular repo might say it also wants01:47
mgagnefungi: will this list be moved to JJB or something else?01:47
fungimgagne: yeah, a jjb macro which either installs your bindep requirements list at the beginning of a job, or installs the fallback bindep list if you don't provide one in your repo01:48
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mgagnefungi: oh, it all makes sense to me now01:48
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lifelessmorganfainberg: see my comment on the bug01:49
mgagnefungi: thank you very much for the explanation! :D01:49
fungimgagne: that allows us to phase it in on a per-repo basis at whatever speed is convenient for the various project teams01:49
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fungianyway, time for me to head to bed. i'll get back to work on it tomorrow01:50
anteayafungi: night01:50
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SpamapSlifeless: thanks, I was actually just being confused by trying to change from dhcp to static in-place. :-P01:53
SpamapSlifeless: helped to see in writing the configs again. :)01:53
lifelessSpamapS: :)01:53
lifelessSpamapS: shock and horror01:53
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openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make lbaas API test jobs voting again
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lifelessclarkb: q for you02:01
lifelessclarkb: the cross-project Depends-On02:01
lifelessclarkb: I did a recheck after uploaded a new version of the dependency02:01
lifelessclarkb: and the tests ran with the old version of it02:01
lifelessclarkb: is that expected (and if so how do I fix it) or not (and if so where should I bug the file)02:02
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Fix the setup_workspace to handle missing ZUUL_BRANCH
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SpamapSgreghaynes: if you do anything to the new box, please note it there. :)02:13
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clarkblifeless you rechecked the child and it used old parent?02:17
lifelessclarkb: I believe so02:17
lifeless child02:17
clarkblifeless I dont think that is expected and may be a side effect of zuul caching and gerrit caching02:18
clarkbif you recheck again some time later does it repeat?02:18
lifelessI did a second recheck and it used the right base02:18
lifelessthat was winding up - I saw a new error though so have just pushed a new parent02:18
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openstackgerritKhai Do proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: Support scriptText api to execute groovy scripts on the server
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openstackgerritZhiyuan Cai proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Update project description of Tricircle
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lifelessconstraints now getting through to unit tests. thats progress03:14
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openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Run geard for nodepool tests
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openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for UnicodeDecodeError bug 1467965
openstackbug 1467965 in heat "test_db_encrypt_decrypt UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf8' codec can't decode " [Medium,Triaged]
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Test that changes to requirements are freezable.
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openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for UnicodeDecodeError bug 1467965
openstackbug 1467965 in heat "test_db_encrypt_decrypt UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf8' codec can't decode " [Medium,Triaged]
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openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Added eslint-config-openstack
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openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Sprinkle in Horizon translations for Zanata
openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Sprinkle in Horizon translations for Zanata
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openstackgerritKen'ichi Ohmichi proposed openstack/requirements: Bump tempest-lib version
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openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Sprinkle in Horizon translations for Zanata
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pleia2StevenK: oh, at the meeting earlier we got plans sorted for setting up the infra service account, so hopefully we'll get that done soon06:17
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pleia2now for sleeps06:18
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StevenKpleia2: Right, I shall go and read the meeting logs, thanks for the pointer06:18
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openstackgerritFlorian Wilhelm proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Fix retrieval of commit data and most recent tag.
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Test that changes to requirements are freezable.
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chen12hello, anyone here ??  I try to run "tox" to run unit tests, but get faied when download requirements. It looks like a network issue, but I already set http_proxy & https_proxy in my enviroment, anyone know how to fix that ?06:59
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lifelesschen12: sharing some output might help us evaluate whats happening07:04
lifelesschen12: but one of the most common things is that tox2 filters environment variables07:04
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chen12lifeless, directly run "pip install -U -r/xxxx/requirment.txt" can work07:07
lifelessyeah, as I said, tox 2 filters environment variables07:07
lifelessthere's a faq07:07
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* SpamapS starts writing his first puppet in about 8 years and remembers why he stopped writing puppet 8 years ago. :-P07:13
chen12lifeless, how to solve that >07:13
openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-jeepyb: Separate the fetch remotes log dir and file
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StevenKchen12: is the configuration documentation for tox 2, there's a few things about environment variables in there.07:16
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/shade: Use accessIPv4 and accessIPv6 if they're there
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Nakatolifeless: I've got an idea what the tox.ini should look like, and how to wire it in, is there a buleprint/spec for this work/is that something I should start creating?07:27
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lifelessNakato: there's a cross project spec in gerrit in the openstack/openstack-specs repo07:33
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Update nodepool to use secure.conf file
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-jeepyb: Separate the fetch remotes log dir and file
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chen12StevenK, there is no proxy related staff.  :(08:32
StevenKchen12: No, but there are *environment variables* related things, so you can teach the test environment about your proxy08:32
chen12SteveK, this => "passenv" ? Let me have a try08:33
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openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Sprinkle in Horizon translations for Zanata
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Prevent incompatible version bumps.
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chen12StevenK, thanks, it works!08:56
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StevenKchen12: You're welcome!08:58
electricalMorning all08:58
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openstackgerritRenat Akhmerov proposed openstack/requirements: Adding mistral subprojects to the project list
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Update nodepool to use secure.conf file
openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-logrotate: Add subclass to remove logrotate configurations
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-jeepyb: Separate the fetch remotes log dir and file
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yolandahi, when any infra root can take a look... i'm seeing timeout in all puppet-apply-centos6 jobs09:28
yolanda2015-06-24 00:29:03.768 | Build timed out (after 30 minutes). Marking the build as failed.09:28
yolanda2015-06-24 00:29:03.851 | Build was aborted09:28
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-jeepyb: Separate the fetch remotes log dir and file
openstackgerritTan Lin proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add oat-client element
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Switch voting off for oslo.messaging-dsvm-functional-amqp1-f21
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openstackgerritDavide Guerri proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add Neutron/Nova Floating IP create (i.e. allocate to project)
sdaguejhesketh: is there a job up somewhere for the os-loganalyze plugin?10:06
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openstackgerritDavide Guerri proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add Neutron/Nova Floating IP create (i.e. allocate to project)
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openstackgerritDavide Guerri proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add Neutron/Nova Floating IP delete (i.e. deallocate from project)
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flaper87lifeless: ping, are you aware of this ?
flaper87lifeless: erm,
sdagueflaper87: I would hope so, all requirements jobs are failing that way10:19
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flaper87sdague: I tried to find a bug but I don't think there's one. Do you know if there's one? Otherwise, I can create it10:20
sdagueflaper87: not that I know of10:21
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack-infra/os-loganalyze: Create devstack plugin for testing os-loganalyze
openstackgerritGiulio Fidente proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Pin puppet-redis to known working version
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/os-loganalyze: Create devstack plugin for testing os-loganalyze
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openstackgerritNikolay Mahotkin proposed openstack/requirements: Adding python-mistralclient to the global-requirements
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ramishracan someone please review/approve this elastic recheck search query?
sdagueramishra: so there are currently 0 hits for that11:07
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/cookiecutter: Ignore .eggs cruft
ramishrasdague: thanks. everything is failing at the gate atm.. no tests. We had these yesterday.  Is that count for today or over a period of time?11:11
sdagueit's over the last 10 days11:11
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ramishrahmm... is the query incorrect? yesterday's log11:14
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sdagueramishra: I don't know, show me a logstash link where it's returning results and we can work from there11:18
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ramishrasdague: ok11:19
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ramishrasdague: I'll check that. I'm new to this, thanks for your help11:21
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openstackgerritDmitry Tyzhnenko proposed openstack-infra/git-review: Add reviewers by group alias on upload
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openstackgerritBarry Laffoy proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Configure hipchat under publisher xml element
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ramishrasdague:, 13 failures in last 7 days, I've updated the patch. thanks11:53
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sdagueramishra: ok, cool, that looks better11:54
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sdagueonce the new patch is pushed I'll merge it into the system11:54
openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for UnicodeDecodeError bug 1467965
openstackbug 1467965 in heat "test_db_encrypt_decrypt UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf8' codec can't decode " [Medium,Triaged]
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/shade: Add IPv6 to the server information too
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/shade: Add comment explaining why finding an IP is hard
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/pbr: Use string for 'OS_TEST_TIMEOUT' default
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freerunnerHi folks! Could you please review this ?12:17
therveSo what's the deal with the requirements breakage?12:20
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for UnicodeDecodeError bug 1467965
openstackbug 1467965 in heat "test_db_encrypt_decrypt UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf8' codec can't decode " [Medium,Triaged]
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SpamapSwin 2012:34
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/requirements: [WIP] Test versions of oslo.cache and oslo.reports
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openstackgerritBarry Laffoy proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Configure hipchat under publisher xml element
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openstackgerritDmitry Tyzhnenko proposed openstack-infra/git-review: Add reviewers by group alias on upload
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/release-tools: rename to
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/release-tools: Only use tput when we are writing to a terminal
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sdagueSpamapS: is your review up for the import of the zmq devstack plugin into gerrit?13:01
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SpamapSsdague: carp, no.13:03
SpamapSsdague: I lost the thread on that a bit.. sorry. If you want to post that, I'd be very grateful. The main thing I want to do is make sure oslo buys in on maintaining it.13:04
dimssdague: is there a way to have one repo with multiple devstack plugins?13:05
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sdagueSpamapS: well, it would be really good for whoever is owning that to actually post that review. Because I feel like there is a lot of "I want this" but I'm the only one doing any of the work here.13:05
sdaguedims: not at the moment, it was designed as 1 git repo per plugin13:06
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sdagueyou could do a complicated thing and do conditionals based on what backend you want, but it seems like most of these teams are going to be pretty non overlapping13:06
sdagueso a zmq tree and an amqp1 tree seem fine13:07
dimsrepo + directory in repo?13:07
sdagueand will be a lot easier for people to understand how to configure13:07
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ajohi :)13:07
ajohow can I rebase a feature branch in gerrit?13:07
sdaguedims: right, it assumes a specific directory structure in a repo that maps to being exactly one plugin13:08
SpamapSsdague: :(13:08
ajoI have feature/qos in neutron, and neutron master has fixed a few gate issues13:08
dimssdague: got it13:08
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openstackgerritDavide Guerri proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add Neutron/Nova Floating IP create (i.e. allocate to project)
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/yaml2ical: Update docs to indicate requirements and expand example meeting
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openstackgerritAntoine Musso proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Only shown tmp dir when they are a tmpfs mount
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Make client constructor calls consistent
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Support overriding endpoint_type per service
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hasharthat is a nice project hehe13:33
openstackgerritBarry Laffoy proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Configure hipchat under publisher xml element
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AJaegerajo, see
ajothanks AJaeger13:37
ajoI will read13:37
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mtreinishfungi: so fun story the d-g fix yesterday didn't work on the periodic jobs because they needed it first to be able to pull in the fix:
mtreinishI guess we'll have to wait 1 more day for the nodepool image to update with a fresh copy of the repo13:45
fungimtreinish: oh... i guess that's before devstack-gate updates itself13:46
fungiso, yeah, latest version should hopefully be cached on workers once image update happen today13:47
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mtreinishfungi: yeah, it uses setup_project to update itself13:48
russellblifeless: can you look at this neutron requirements patch?  It pulls in the windows requirements that merged in global requirements but fails in neutron.
fungimtreinish: unfortunately, i think that also means the patch was not self-testing?13:49
fungirussellb: yeah, sdague already pointed that out on the -dev ml in response to lifeless's announcement13:50
sdaguefungi: so devstack-gate patches are no longer self testing?13:50
sdaguerussellb: yeh, all requirements updates are broken13:50
russellboh ok thanks13:50
russellbneutron has gotten *way* behind because of this windows crap13:50
sdaguefungi: that seems like a revert is in order13:50
fungisdague: not sure, but that's the implication of the problem mtreinish spotted with his patch13:50
mtreinishfungi: well I did add a unit test. But, it would be self testing just not on cloning d-g13:50
openstackgerritBarry Laffoy proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Configure hipchat under publisher xml element
mtreinishit runs setup_project on all the other projects after13:51
fungioh, fair point... that's _probably_ safe behavior13:51
fungijust makes it harder to fix if we somehow merge brokenness into that function13:51
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fungie.g. selective brokenness that only affects devstack-gate itself13:52
openstackgerritDavide Guerri proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add Neutron/Nova Floating IP delete (i.e. deallocate from project)
mtreinishfungi: heh, yeah I think we're probably fine13:52
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/yaml2ical: Make help text less OpenStack specific
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sdaguefungi: so didn't we have the re-exec before to catch this kind of thing?13:57
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openstackgerritAntoine Musso proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Only chown tmp dirs when they are a tmpfs mount
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mordredwe did - but recent changes were supposed to make that not necessary anylonger14:00
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for neutron ipv6 fail bug 1468163
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openstackbug 1468163 in neutron "test_dhcp_stateful_fixedips_outrange fails on the gate" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton)14:01
sdake_mordred around fine sir14:02
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for neutron ipv6 fail bug 1468163
openstackbug 1468163 in neutron "test_dhcp_stateful_fixedips_outrange fails on the gate" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton)14:08
AJaegerttx and other TC members, could you have a look at this bug, please: ? It's about display14:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1461215 in openstack-org "Update PTL information on" [Medium,New]14:09
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/shade: Add Neutron/Nova Floating IP create (i.e. allocate to project)
sdaguemordred: well, there is some set of things it clearly doesn't catch14:09
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openstackgerritFabien Boucher proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Use openstackci module for zuul_merger zuul_prod and zuul_dev
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sdagueclarkb: once you get back active today, lets figure out what the path is forward on the os-loganalyze bits, because I think - should make it all fine14:12
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Make client constructor calls consistent
mordredsdague: nod14:14
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mtreinishsdague: no I didn't look at the re-exec I only pointed out my change didn't take effect on the last round of periordics14:16
mtreinishbecause to use the patch it needed the patch (so it could pull the latest tree)14:17
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sdaguemtreinish: right, so we used to have a re-exec, but we don't now, because of zuul cloner, if it turns out there is a stack of code that can't be tested we should call that out pretty clearly14:17
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mtreinishoh I didn't realize it went away, I guess I wasn't really paying attention14:18
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Host site
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sputnik13sorry to be the squeaky wheel, but can a infra core please look at ?14:20
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Host site
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sputnik13oh and this one too ^_^;;;14:23
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openstackgerritVictor Stinner proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make gate-cinder-python34 voting and add py34 gate
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AJaegersputnik13: please mention what the change is about. Not everybody in this channel is core in every infra project. IF you give context, it's easier to figure out whether to open it or not.14:31
sputnik13AJaeger: good point, thank you for pointing this out :)14:31
ttxAJaeger: I'm on it14:32
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Nova requires concurrency 2.1.0 or better
sputnik13 and are both project-config patches, the former is to remove py26 check jobs from running for tooz+taskflow, the latter is to fix a rally job for cue14:33
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ttxAJaeger: looks like fifieldt did some updates to it already14:34
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AJaegerttx: yeah, some (fixed Anne and Doug's titles but not the rest)14:35
AJaegerttx, my main question is whether to have PTL titles there at all - or not. That was fifieldt's last comment.14:36
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Add links to recorded sessions on debugging the gate to developer docs
mriedemmtreinish: sdague: ^ docs!14:44
mriedemjogo: ^14:44
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sdaguemriedem: nice14:46
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mtreinishmriedem: man we're going to be famous now14:47
mriedemmtreinish: so is jaypipes and dansmith14:47
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Host site
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: Close milestones for post-version releases
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Oslo to adopt sdague's zmq plugin
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dhellmannjeblair, clarkb, fungi, anteaya : could I get you to put this library release ACL change on your review short-list, please?
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sdaguedhellmann: I can +A, those teams know this is changing on them though, right?15:06
dhellmannsdague: mestery +1ed it15:06
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sdagueI have no idea which reviewers with +1s might be those people15:06
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sdagueI guess these all live under the neutron umbrella?15:07
sdagueok, good enough for me15:07
dhellmannsdague: ty15:07
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mesterydhellmann sdague: I'm good with that and I've notified all the affected teams in the neutron meeting this week15:12
yolandamordred, seems that there is some problem with puppet-apply-centos6 test. They fail with timeout15:13
annegentlejeblair: any call to action for the project-team-guide? Reviews? Writing? (Working on the TC blog post)15:13
mordredyolanda: I was just noticing that15:13
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sdaguemestery: ok cool. there are a surprising number of project-config changes that come in where the people that primarily work on those trees don't know about them, so if I can't map those folks out in my head, I ask15:14
yolanda2015-06-24 14:28:41.644 | Error: /Stage[main]/Haproxy/Concat[/etc/haproxy/haproxy.cfg]/File[/etc/haproxy/haproxy.cfg]: Could not evaluate: Could not retrieve information from environment production source(s) file:/var/lib/puppet/concat/_etc_haproxy_haproxy.cfg/fragments.concat.out15:14
yolanda2015-06-24 14:28:41.649 | Warning: /Stage[main]/Haproxy/Service[haproxy]: Skipping because of failed dependencies15:14
yolanda2015-06-24 14:28:43.323 | Warning: Found multiple default providers for vcsrepo: svn, cvs, git, bzr, hg; using svn15:14
yolanda2015-06-24 14:41:33.868 | Build timed out (after 30 minutes). Marking the build as failed.15:14
yolandait's doing nothing in a huge interval of time15:14
sdaguefungi: you around and up for holding a d-g node? There is an extremely high failure rate scenario with keystone / grenade / and neutron which I'm at my wits end on?15:15
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mesterysdague: Thanks for asking first, it's a good idea, agree with you there. :)15:16
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pabelangeryolanda, IIRC, the issue is with the git clone of vcsrepo15:16
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jeblairannegentle: er, it would be nice to link to it, but unfortunately it's not published anywhere yet; i think most of the changes are merged, so probably just checking it out and beefing up the weak areas15:16
pabelangersomething is flakey with the centos6 test15:17
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pabelangeryolanda, I thought nibalizer had a patchset up using something else then vcsrepo15:17
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jeblairpabelanger, yolanda: yes, there is a a problem with the git command on centos6 where it will hang indefinitely15:17
fungisdague: sure, get me something i can use to identify the worker you want held15:18
jeblairpabelanger, nibalizer: oh, is there a thought to work around this by not using vcsrepo?  i hadn't heard that15:18
pabelangerjeblair, unsure to be honest. I thought I seen a review up that referenced it, however I could be wrong15:18
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mordredjeblair: nibalizer put up a review to pull in a git-specific thing15:19
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mordredI don't think there are any patches to use it yet15:19
sdaguefungi: ok, will try15:19
mordredI must say - as a person who considered rage-writing a git specific vcs module 2 years ago, I'm in favor of the idea15:21
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jeblairyeah; license would be nice15:21
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jeblairand by nice, i mean required15:21
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jeblairfungi: are we only seeing the centos6 git problems with vcsrepo?15:22
mordredjeblair: that commit message is out of date15:22
sdaguefungi: ok, I'm rechecking 3 grenade patches. By my previous statistics I'm pretty sure that one of them will fail this way15:22
jeblairi'm curious as to whether that is expected to solve the centos6 problem or is unrelated15:22
mordredI believe it's unrelated15:22
mordredthat change has been up since march15:22
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Load in nanliu/git module
sdaguealthough, the zuul status page seems to be stalled for me, so it will be hard to track those jobs15:23
jeblairmordred: well, we've had centos6 problems since april of 201415:23
mordredgood point15:23
jeblairstarted with heartbleed15:23
mordredI updated the commit message for nibalizer - the license and tag support have both landed upstream15:23
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fungijeblair: we've seen the centos6 problems with git in general, not just vcsrepo15:29
jeblairyolanda, pabelanger: ^15:29
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sdagueis zuul actually serving status.json for anyone? The web app seems to be trying to fetch it, but the console shows it's not succeeding15:29
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jeblairsdague: no it is not15:30
jeblairaccording to apache15:30
dimsAJaeger: anteaya: we need to switch a job to non-voting (proton/amqp/qpidd hiccup), please take a look when you get a chance -
dimsoops AJaeger already voted :)15:30
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jeblairzuul is running and performing work; apache is spinning at 100% cpu15:31
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sdaguejeblair: yeh, the base status page also doesn't wait for status.json to return before sending another request, so it looks like a web browser will have about 30 requests stacked up if it stops responding15:32
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funginothing in its access log for 14 minutes now15:32
sdague - fwiw15:33
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jeblairmod status is, perhaps unsurprisingly, not responsive15:35
jeblairi think we might be at either a) gdb apache or b) restart apache15:35
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jeblairalso, apache seems to segfault on this box a lot :/15:36
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fungitcpdump is not showing an excessive number of new http or https connections inbound15:36
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: WIP: Add trystack.o.o into -infra
fungiaverage of one every second or two15:36
jeblairfungi: okay to restart apache?15:37
fungigo for it15:37
fungii don't see anything that looks like an attack scenario anyway15:37
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fungiseems to be working fine after the restart15:38
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AJaegerdims: I voted before you abandonend;)15:53
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Oslo to adopt sdague's zmq plugin
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dimsAJaeger: flaper87 told me that he'll fix EOT, then kgiusti helped realize that may not be possible15:55
dims:) thanks AJaeger15:55
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AJaegerdims: understood15:55
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openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Run geard for nodepool tests
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sdagueAJaeger: look good to you?15:59
openstackgerritCody Littley proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Fixed crash in exception handler
AJaegersdague: checking...15:59
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AJaegersdague: no, it doesn't16:02
AJaegersdague: I commented16:02
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sdagueAJaeger: ok, besides the sorting, it's fine?16:03
sdaguedims: ^^16:03
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dimssdague: on it16:03
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AJaegersdague: change is fine besides sorting.16:03
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sdaguethat node died in the failure16:06
sdaguedevstack-trusty-hpcloud-b4-3283381 (dev16:06
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Oslo to adopt sdague's zmq plugin
fungii'll get your key added16:07
AJaegerdims, sdague: I should have released that dims as PTL pushed this, so his approval is implicit ;)16:07
AJaegerdims, sdague: I didn't look at the author of the change closely enough ;(16:07
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fungisdague: bad luck. i raced with nodepool and lost. i must have held it right after it transitioned from used to delete because it just went away on me16:08
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sdagueyeh, bummer16:08
fungiyep, nodepool deleted it16:08
sdaguethe log uploads seem to have gotten faster16:08
sdagueso there is less buffer time after the fail16:08
AJaegerdims: one suggestion: You copied the ACL from oslo.messaging, correct? In that case, let's reuse it. I'll comment16:08
ttxjeblair: on governance chanegs, rollcall votes do not carry over rebases... is that by design ? Makes the current churn around projects.yaml a bit painful to handle16:09
sdaguefungi: yeh, log uploads now take 15s instead of 4 minutes16:09
openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Trigger image builds using gearman
openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Trigger image builds using gearman
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jeblairttx: they carry over on trivial rebases, but these aren't trivial rebases; there are not distinguishable from substantial changes, and i don't think we would want them to carry over there.  (this isn't a change from before, the same applies to code-review)16:11
jeblairttx: i think we all trust you to just resolve the rebase and re-approve :)16:12
ttxjeblair: but codereview+1 does carry over...16:12
ttxlost all the rollcall+1, but carries over the codereview+116:12
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ttxare you sure rollcall votes carry over on trivial rebases ?16:13
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Oslo to adopt sdague's zmq plugin
dimsAJaeger: cleaned up ACL. thanks16:14
jeblairttx: no i'm not; i will correct that, sorry.16:15
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ttxjeblair: cool, thx!16:15
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Copy rollcall votes on trivial rebase
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jeblairttx: ^16:15
AJaegerdims: LGTM, thanks16:16
ttxjeblair: +116:16
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nibalizerjeblair: I believe I am missing rollcall/council vote on infra-specs16:16
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jeblairnibalizer: indeed you were, try now16:17
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dhellmannjeblair: for that spec about release tag reviewing, would some example files help? I was trying to avoid over-specifying things until I'd experimented with some code, but I could include them anyway16:21
AJaegerdhellmann: yes, example file would help!16:21
dhellmannAJaeger: ok16:21
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AJaegerdhellmann: include it as a "draft". I don't think we want to hold you to the complete syntax but seeing how it could look like might help.16:22
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dhellmannAJaeger: sure16:22
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openstackgerritFabien Boucher proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Add generic zuul manifests
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AJaegerdims: I'll +2 your change once I've seen the housekeeping change for the governance repo.16:26
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dimsAJaeger: it's not a new project, its part of oslo.messaging16:28
dimsi see only projects in governance repo16:28
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dimsAJaeger: never mind, i see something i can model after16:29
AJaegerdims: See
sc68calIs there a storyboard project for tracking bugs, for the IRC logs specifically? I'm seeing some wierd formatting when looking at in OS X where the horizontal layout is super huge16:29
AJaegerdims: If it'S part of oslo.messaging, it is part of the oslo project team16:30
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AJaegerdims: example to follow:
dimsAJaeger: y16:30
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dimsAJaeger: not going to add any tags16:32
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul: cloner: make more zuul args optional
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Do not set ZUUL_REF to a valid value on devstack checkout
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove unneeded zuul arg manipulation
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jeblairfungi, mtreinish, sdague: that's the reason the periodic jobs didn't work correctly last night ^16:37
jeblairspecifically is the minimum change needed to make them work, the other two are improvements16:38
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Pre-cache distro packages from bindep lists
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jeblairmordred: ^ you too16:38
fbo_asselin, hi I've rebased both patches for openstackci/zuul and re-tested again. Seems good for me but I'm looking forward to have more reviews16:38
asselinfbo_, ok will review and test them16:38
fbo_asselin, nice ! thanks16:39
greghaynesfungi: oooo16:40
clarkbjeblair should 195185 go away given its child?16:40
jeblairfungi, mtreinish, sdague, mordred: the run started by checking out a copy of d-g from a zuul-merger which was a commit behind, rather than checking it out from git.o.o which is what we wanted.  there's nothing wrong with the self testing (in fact, that would be the only time it actually works reliably)16:41
fungijeblair: yep, seeing that now16:41
jeblairclarkb: 195185 will fix the problem in 30 minutes, the rest will take an image cycle to get a new zuul cloner installed16:41
dimssdague: is ready (zmq)16:41
clarkbjeblair but both are job changes so should work in ~30 minutes16:42
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sdagueAJaeger: so, just so I don't do this right, the new model is governance depends on repo creation? Because that seems backwards of what I expected.16:43
jeblairclarkb: but the second depends on the new version of zuul-cloner being available on images16:43
AJaegersdague: full story at
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clarkbI see16:43
AJaegersdague: basically: For new repos adopted by existing project, it'S project-config change approved, then governance is housekeeping16:44
AJaegersdague: for new projects, it'S first governance and then project-config approval16:44
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sdagueAJaeger: gotcha, ok, cool16:44
AJaegersdague: This is something jeblair and the TC figured out, go back a couple of meetings.16:44
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jeblairclarkb: i have marked the 2nd one WIP so the images can bake16:44
fungisdague: for existing projects, that's just to avoid the tc approving addition of a repo that doesn't actually match what got created because it changed later in the project-config review process or something16:45
sdaguefungi: gotcha, all good16:45
sdagueI just realized I was now in policy review, and I sometimes get those wrong, so wanted to ask16:45
fungiso avoids additional round-trips to governance while not blocking repo creation on the tc16:45
gordcmriedem: thanks for the approval16:45
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mriedemgordc: np16:46
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AJaegersdague: BUT we require PTL approval on the change as confirmation of the adoption16:46
AJaegerDon't want the PTL -1 the governance change because s/he didn't know about it ;)16:46
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AJaegersdague: this will be my future standard text for such reviews:
AJaegerI have to leave now.16:47
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greghaynesjeblair: you had some explodey on if you didnt see16:50
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jeblairneat, that'll be fun!16:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Make lbaas API test jobs voting again
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* anteaya is sitting in the neutron mid-cycle, if anyone has neutron things that need some airtime do let me know17:00
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kashyapanteaya: Just as a observer on this effort, the hot topic of Nova-net to Neutron migration. . .17:02
* kashyap about to go out for dinner, will read the log in the morning17:02
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anteayakashyap: has had some air time already, will have more17:02
anteayakashyap: thanks17:02
anteayakashyap: propably won't make logs yet17:03
anteayaphilosophical so far17:03
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kashyapNp. I meant, the IRC log here. In case you noticed my question late.17:03
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anteayakashyap: yup, that was the log I interpreted, don't expect much in irc logs at this time17:04
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anteayatoo early for print17:04
wznoinskhi, is it infra maintaining python-openstackclient on pypi?17:04
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clarkbanteaya does the dvr multinode job work yet?17:04
clarkbanteaya iirc it didnt work due to neutron instability so focus on that would be awesome17:05
fungiwznoinsk: it has its own project-team
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wznoinskI see, thanks17:06
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mordredanteaya: I continue to value the provider net / linux bridge stuff sc68cal has been working on17:06
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stevemarwznoinsk, dtroyer and i are core on osc, but dtroyer cuts the new releases17:07
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sc68calmordred: thanks :)17:09
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Oslo to adopt sdague's zmq plugin
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/bindep: Support requirements on standard input
openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Added eslint-config-openstack
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anteayaclarkb: having the discussion, right now there is not working happening on the dvr multinode work17:20
anteayaclarkb: the dvr test suite is broken and there are issues getting the right personal driving the initiative17:21
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anteayaclarkb: yes, I hear that17:21
anteayamordred: yes, sc68cal has that as high priority and is working on that17:21
jeblairin the nodepool dib elements, which part makes the /opt/git repos?17:22
clarkbanteaya well dvr is broken too17:22
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fungijeblair: there's a built-in element called source-repos17:24
fungijeblair: we feed a list of repos to that17:25
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fungijeblair: the openstack-repos element is what takes care of that bit17:26
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Publish bindep documentation
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Link bindep documentation in the infra index
anteayaclarkb: that is part of our current discussion17:27
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mtreinishjeblair: oh ok, that makes sense17:29
jeblairfungi: thx17:30
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fungijeblair: the other relevant tidbit is that repo caching happens in the extra-data phase, which is complete before the install phase begins, so we don't need to worry about figuring out where to fit our install phase use of those repos in the precedence order17:31
jeblairfungi: i'm looking at 195187 and trying to figure out if the 'git remote update' is necessary17:32
openstackgerritDavide Guerri proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add Neutron/Nova Floating IP delete (i.e. deallocate from project)
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fungijeblair: yeah, i was unsure. if source-repos just does a clone then it won't have the remote branch list handy i think17:33
clarkbfungi and install phase uses a different set of repos too17:33
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clarkbit uses /opt/dib_git or something to avoid dirtying the cache for jobs17:33
fungiclarkb: ahh, right it clones from the updated dib cache17:33
fungiclarkb: oh, so in the image the git repos are actually at /opt/dib_git and then get moved later?17:34
openstackgerritDavide Guerri proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add Neutron/Nova Floating IP attach/detach
clarkbfungi we make two copies, /opt/git for everything then /opt/dib_git (or similar) for repos that dib manipulates during the build17:34
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clarkbso devstack and system-config iirc17:34
zxiiroIs there a way in JJB to allow me to list strings as a list, and have it collapse into a comma separated string when passed to a job-template?17:35
greghaynesclarkb: fungi I think its /opt/build_git17:35
fungiclarkb: got it. so /opt/dib_git won't (shouldn't) have the full set of repos anyway?17:35
clarkbfungi correct17:35
fungiokay, so i need the ones in /opt/git regardless17:35
zxiiroone of the JJB triggers i'm using accepts a string of comma separated values but this string is becoming too long to maintain and it'd be nice to be able to list it instead as a list object17:35
greghaynesfungi: clarkb
greghaynesit writes out a big source-repositories file17:36
clarkbfungi likely but you have to be a lot more careful with them as far as reseting state17:37
clarkbotherwise any direct users of /opt/git may break17:37
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fungiclarkb: oh... any tips on how to grab files which could potentially exist on any branch of any repo we host?17:37
greghaynesyea, so looks like17:37
fungiclarkb: without resetting the repo state?17:38
greghayneslooks like its just system-config that goes into build_git17:38
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clarkbfungi not off the top of my head but I thibk you can ask git for state of file at ref without checking it out into working dir17:38
fungiclarkb: should i rsync /opt/git to a temporary path and operate on them there?17:38
anteayapleia2: if you are around if you have time to look at this while loop and assist us in coming up with the cleanest loop:
pleia2anteaya: sure17:39
anteayapleia2: thanks17:39
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jeblairfungi: yeah, i think we should do this without writing to the opt git repos17:39
clarkbfungi git show $REV:$FILE apparebtly17:39
jeblairfungi, clarkb: and yes, you can have git just stream the contests of a file17:39
fungiclarkb: oh, neat!17:39
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fungiyep, switching to that now17:40
jeblairwe used to do that for refs/meta at some point17:40
jeblairi'm still on the 'git remote update' though17:40
jeblairi'm trying to figure out if it's necessary; if it is, then i think it's a bug in in the dib source repos element17:40
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anteayapleia2: if it isn't obvious we waiting for the bridge to be connected and have 10 tries in the loop, and then quit17:41
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anteayas/to be connected/to be created17:41
pleia2anteaya: yeah, was just trying to figure out the exact intent17:42
jeblairgreghaynes, clarkb, fungi:
jeblairthat only clones if $CACHE_PATH doesn't exist; why would it exist?17:42
anteayapleia2: cool17:42
fungijeblair: it looks like it does a fetch +refs/heads/*:refs/heads/* anyway17:43
clarkbjeblair from the previous image build17:43
fungijeblair: so i think you're right, not needed17:43
greghaynesjeblair: I think it always caches on a build17:43
clarkbthat cache lives on the build host and is persistent17:43
greghaynesyea, it is just checking .cache/... which it always clones to initially17:44
jeblairfungi: but it only does that fetch if a previous fetch fails?17:44
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fungioh, hrm17:44
fungiyeah it tries to fetch a specific ref first17:45
jeblairit only does if fails17:45
fungithen fetches all heads as a fallback17:45
jeblairand i don't understand what 126 does17:45
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greghayneslooks like it is seeing if it can fetch ref from the cache17:46
greghaynesthat does look like git voodoo to me though17:46
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funginah, it's not fetching from the cache unless $REPOLOCATION is the cache17:47
jeblairi'm assuming REPOREF for us is 'master'?17:47
fungii find its lack of comments disturbing17:48
fungiahh, the readme elucidates17:48
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greghaynesjeblair: yes17:48
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greghaynesjeblair: that is so you can override reporefs if you want for a source-repo line17:49
fungiso REPOLOCATION is the remote url17:49
fungimakes me think of echolocation17:49
jeblairso if reporef is master, then that script for us reads: "try to fetch master; if that fails, try to fetch all heads"17:50
jeblairthis is making me think that our caches will never get their list of remote heads updated17:50
annegentleflaper87: ttx: jeblair: do you have a minute to look through to make sure I haven't missed anything newsworthy? It's about six paragraphs worht.17:50
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fungijeblair: yep, i think is defaulting us to pass master in that position17:51
jeblairannegentle: i can do so in a couple of hours17:51
fungiwhich means our git cache is less warm than we would like for non-master branches17:52
annegentlejeblair: fair nuff17:52
annegentlewould like it out today if possible to avoid the usual Friday postshare with the Community newsletter. Of course, it might be worthwhile to wait for the M release name results.17:52
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fungijeblair: greghaynes: if i'm reading source-repositories correctly, not passing a ref also causes it to default to "master" for a git repo?17:55
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jeblairroot@ubuntu:/opt/git/openstack/nova/.git/refs# git branch --list -r origin/HEAD -> origin/master origin/master17:55
fungiso our only hope if we want it to update all heads is to pass it an invalid refname?17:55
jeblaircorvus@devstack-precise-rax-dfw-3275282:/opt/git/openstack/nova$ git branch --list -r origin/HEAD -> origin/master origin/master origin/stable/icehouse origin/stable/juno origin/stable/kilo17:56
greghaynesfungi: yes17:56
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fungithat seems mildly pathological17:56
greghayneswell, the other option would be to fix it ;)17:56
jeblairfungi, greghaynes: so on a dib node, our cache shows "origin/master" as the only remote branch; on a snapshot node, the cache shows the full complement of remote branches17:56
fungigreghaynes: yep, that's what i was planning to do, just trying to figure out the best way to flip that switch in the script17:57
fungigreghaynes: since the logical signal of not passing anything in that position already has an established meaning17:57
greghaynesfungi: Probably add an env var of DIB_SOURCE_REPOSITORIES_ALL_REMOTES which if not empty does what you want17:58
greghaynesits annoying that itll apply to all source-repository repos...17:58
greghayneshrm, youall gen this procedurally, so maybe another column in the source-repositories file youall use could work17:58
fungithat's what i was leaning toward17:58
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: WIP: Add trystack.o.o into -infra
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Break out openstack_project::server from static.o.o
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fungiso refname is the ref you want live in the workspace, but the next (as of yet unclaimed) parameter can be something like all|only defaulting to only17:59
greghaynesYep, and that would also have no meaning for !git18:00
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fungistill staring in hopes there's a way to overload an existing parameter for this though18:00
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack-infra/project-config: networking-ovn: Drop custom services list
greghaynesYou could set * as the ref which will cause it to fail and fetch all, like you said18:01
greghaynesbut it looks intentional18:01
fungilike what if we passed in a refname of "*" and then special-cased the behavior around that to still reset to origin/HEAD once done updating?18:01
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fungias long as the * is escaped, name-rev seems to not find it. so that much should already work (though i suspect REPOREF=* there would try to match local files when used with the current state of the script)18:04
krotscheckEhn? I can't set a governance doc as a WIP?18:05
greghaynesfungi: oh, well that seems like a bug we should fix18:05
greghaynesthe joys of bash18:05
fungikrotscheck: we probably have an exclusive group permissions on the workflow label there and haven't explicitly added owner to that18:06
krotscheckjeblair: I'm starting on the CTI patch for the governance repo, would you mind -1 WIPing that for me? I don't seem to have the permissions.
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: Close milestones for post-version releases
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: Handle more errors when updating bugs
krotscheckfungi: projects-config ACL change?18:06
fungigreghaynes: yeah, looks like quoting it a la name-rev "$REPOREF" should be fine18:06
fungikrotscheck: yep. probably need to do the same to infra-specs acl as well18:06
jeblairkrotscheck: change the commit message subject to "WIP ..."18:07
krotscheckjeblair: Will [WIP] work?18:07
* krotscheck already has that18:07
jeblairi believe it's intentional for governance so ttx can manage the agenda18:07
fungiunless not allowing change owners to wip a governance change is intentional, yeah18:07
jeblairkrotscheck: should do i think18:07
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jeblairwe should double check with him that's still desired18:08
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krotscheckjeblair: Cool. I think I also finally know enough about the space to put together an infra spec for all this work. WIll follow up with that shortly.18:09
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fungigreghaynes: oh, maybe we should do refs/heads/*18:11
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jeblairfungi, greghaynes: we should also verify that local tags update18:11
fungigreghaynes: still line 121 needs to have quoting around the var i think, for safety18:11
fungijeblair: update as in get replaced if they differ, or just get added?18:12
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openstackgerritThanh Ha proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support to reverse trigger for job list
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zxiiroI couldn't figure out how to do it with existing JJB so I went ahead and added support to the module18:14
openstackgerritDoug Wiegley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove the neutron check job from lbaas repo changes
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openstackgerritThanh Ha proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support to reverse trigger for job list
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SpamapShrm, seems trying to make OpenStack work with signed certs is problematic, but the puppet modules don't make it easy to run with HTTP either.18:22
* SpamapS just wants to iterate. :-P18:22
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clarkbzxiiro just pass a string comma delimited list18:23
clarkbI dont thibk a list type helps much18:23
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zxiiroclarkb: I'd argue it does for example this is unmaintainable in my opinion18:24
zxiiroclarkb: 'aaa-csit-1node-cds-authn-only-{stream},aaa-csit-1node-cds-authn-all-{stream},bgpcep-csit-1node-cds-userf18:24
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clarkbuse yaml to your advantage18:25
zxiirooops sorr yfor the flood...18:25
shalehGood day all.18:25
clarkbstr: >18:25
shalehI am trying to sign the Gerritt ICLA and receiving a server error saying it cannot write the document.18:25
clarkbits just as maintainable as a normal lost18:25
zxiiroah do you have an exmaple of how to use that str:> ?18:25
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zxiiroi was asking earlier and no one responded so i came up with my solution18:26
zxiirobut if yaml supports it internally i'd be willing to use htat18:26
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zxiiroclarkb: thanks! I'll give it a try.18:29
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/os-testr: Dogfood things for unit tests
* shaleh is seeking help18:30
shalehI am trying to sign the Gerritt ICLA and receiving a server error saying it cannot write the document.18:30
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krotscheckAdding a channel - does that require registration by someone here?18:31
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shalehfungi: thanks. I did the membership step, I will go an see what hasn't updated.18:32
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Use the cache-bindep element on dib nodes
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Fix puppet deprecated warning
zxiiroclarkb: thanks a lot. Your suggestion seems to do what I wanted so I'm abandoning my change.18:36
openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add temporary non voting multinode smoke jobs
bknudsonI'm hoping to get merged soon since they I can get our feature branch in sync and we can continue work on it.18:37
sdagueclarkb: hey, there you are18:37
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greghaynesfungi: yea, thatd work too18:37
greghaynesfungi: (refs/heads/*)18:37
bknudson is a openstack-infra/project-config change18:38
shalehfungi: thanks, I had created the account, signed a few things but not click the "make me a foundation member" button.18:38
greghaynesjeblair: ++ on checking tags18:38
fungishaleh: you're welcome18:38
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add trystack.o.o into -infra
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sdagueclarkb: so I'm pretty sure - is going to obviate the need for adding os-loganalyze requirements into g-r18:41
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add trystack.o.o into -infra
sdagueI ran it locally, and python-magic installed18:41
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openstackgerritBrian Exelbierd proposed openstack-infra/yaml2ical: start_date now supported in schedules
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openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add temporary non voting multinode smoke jobs
mtreinishjogo: ^^^ why no config drive?18:47
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pabelangertimrc, I still down see how secret_key is related to the RESTapi in grafana.  Can you let me know how it actually works?18:48
dansmithjogo: mordred just +1d the spec. I think you have to stay now18:49
jogomtreinish: it doesn't work with live migration I  think (I forgot). copied the config from the full job18:49
jogodansmith: haha18:49
lifelessrussellb: yes, on it18:49
pabelangerfrom what I see in source, it is related to cookies or something18:49
mordreddansmith: I've been trying to convince him of that - but clearly I forgot to write a spec18:50
dansmithmordred: lessons for next time18:50
russellblifeless: ok, it's related to the windows requirement stuff18:50
mordreddansmith: THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEXT TIME?????18:50
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* mordred panics18:50
dansmithmordred: hah18:50
jeblairfungi, greghaynes: they probably need to be replaced if they differ; essentially, i think we would like it to be equivalent to a clone, since that's what we have now18:50
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fungijeblair: so maybe a loop to just delete all local tags and then fetch them all again?18:51
lifelessrussellb: so you can get other reqs in, just not the ones with markers18:51
mordred"if ref not exists, please make cache repo up to date with the remote state"18:51
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mordredor something18:51
fungijeblair: i think git's behavior around remote tag changes is pretty bad, but i'll see if there's a non-brute-force solution to that18:51
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russellblifeless: well ... the general automated requirements update patch has been blocked for a while because it reverts the windows requirements in setup.py18:51
russellblifeless: so requirements changes haven't been going in at all for a while until we resolve the windows bit18:52
mordredfungi: I though a git fetch will do the right thing?18:52
lifelessrussellb: yup, we're nearly there...18:52
lifelessrussellb: I suggest proposing all the non-contentious lines manually18:52
fungimordred: i thought git fetch only deleted or added local tags from the remote but didn't replace any18:52
russellblifeless: OK, yeah, that's a good idea18:52
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russellbwill do now18:52
fungimordred: regardless, i'll play around with it and validate that recollection18:52
lifelessfungi: yeah the diff bit I elided18:53
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mordredfungi: ++18:53
lifelessfungi: I'm still arm wrestling over the right separation of concerns18:53
lifelessfungi: I think the parser needs the non-diff version to handle setup.cfg properly.18:53
lifelessfungi: so now I'm thinking to surface a lint API that takes the output of _read_project (old, new, location of globals)18:53
mordredfungi: --prune also might be worthwhile in this case18:53
fungimordred: great idea, thanks18:54
jeblairfungi, mordred: i feel like we're re-writing zuul-cloner in shell18:54
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fungijeblair: feels that way, yeah18:54
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jeblairi don't have a better alternative, mind you.18:55
jeblair(except from just punting on the cache and cloning)18:55
SpamapSpuppet openstack modules deploy icehouse18:56
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Pre-cache distro packages from bindep lists
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fungiSpamapS: they have a stable/juno branch in at least some18:56
pabelangertimrc, Ya, it looks to just be a hash key for cookies, and not related to the API18:57
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mordredjeblair: we could teach dib how to use zuul-cloner18:57
mordredjeblair: and make it a depend18:57
jeblairSpamapS: maybe we should start talking to the folks with a puppet module background who volunteered to help with infra-cloud18:57
fungiSpamapS: looks like juno support was added as of a week ago18:57
mordredSpamapS, jeblair: I hear crinkle knows some things18:57
fungior at least completed a couple weeks ago18:57
SpamapSYeah, wsgi seems to be failing in keystone...18:57
jeblairi kind of thought we were still on "get an inventory of hosts"18:58
SpamapSwhich I know was worked on extensively in Kilo18:58
SpamapSso Juno.. I'm like.. wha?18:58
* SpamapS really hates the stable release paradigm for this reason. :-P18:58
sdagueit's supposed to work in juno18:58
mordredjeblair: I believe SpamapS is beginning to poke at learning about how single-machine all-in-one deployments work18:58
SpamapSYes I am18:58
mordredjeblair: while we wait for the NOC people to remediate the current state of the servers18:59
fungicrinkle: SpamapS is wondering where the continuous deployment liberty branch of the puppet-openstack modules are ;)18:59
SpamapSI should probably just push up my non-working patch to system-config that I've been playing with18:59
mordredSpamapS: ++18:59
clarkbyou kboe we have a thing that does multinode deployments18:59
SpamapSfungi: s/liberty//18:59
clarkbits tested so we kbow it works18:59
clarkbjust saying18:59
mordredclarkb: yeah yeah.18:59
crinklefungi: we don't have liberty yet, we are planning on releasing kilo in a couple of weeks18:59
crinkleSpamapS: ^18:59
fungisounds like you're catching up quickly18:59
crinklemaster should mostly work for kilo19:00
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SpamapScrinkle: I may find time to help you with that kilo bit. :)19:00
jeblairSpamapS: please do push it up19:00
jeblairSpamapS: can you also update!/story/2000175 if you're starting on that task?19:00
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jeblairSpamapS: and let's talk about this at the next infra meeting because we're getting into the realm of parallelilizable tasks and i want others to be able to contribute19:01
jeblairi'm pretty sure that's enough letters to make a word19:01
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SpamapSjeblair: Indeed, this was mostly a discovery mission so I could close some loose ends in my own knowledge while trying to rework the docs patch.. but it is ready for others to poke at.19:02
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Create grafana.o.o under -infra
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jeblairSpamapS: i didn't _think_ you were under the impression that you were going to do all the work, but just in case :)19:03
clarkbalso I am mostly serious, spin up cloud fast, work through hw/infra issues then redeploy ina X weeks with long term solution19:03
clarkbit should only take a couple hours to have d-g do its thing inclusing writing out the "nodepool" info19:04
openstackgerritAdam Gandelman proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Dont run akanda dsvm jobs against stable branches
mordredclarkb: we're still very much blocked from doing real things on noc steps currently19:04
SpamapSit has been going reasonably well...  just fighting with the 7 or so years I didn't write any puppet things and my hatred of stable releases at this point. ;)19:04
clarkbwell then nevermind19:04
jeblairmordred: well, let's check that19:04
crinkleSpamapS: lmk if there's anything i can do to help19:04
jeblairmordred: last update i have is that greghaynes and tchaypo are trying to spin up a baremetal cloud manually19:05
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jeblairat least, that's the last thing in!/story/200017519:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Sprinkle in Horizon translations for Zanata
jeblairmordred: but you say we're waiting on the noc now?19:05
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openstackgerritClint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Initial effort on a single-node cloud manifest
jeblairmordred: nope what?19:05
crinkleSpamapS: fwiw lots of people do cd from master of the puppet modules19:05
SpamapScrinkle: I'm sure, thats what I'm hoping we can do. :)19:06
mordredjeblair: I believe actual current state is that bifrost has been installed and that has been used to boot some baremetal workloads that were used in inventory gathering19:06
jeblairmordred: do we have a full inventory now?19:06
SpamapScrinkle: though our docs say we're going to do the latest stable.. so I probably will have to accept Kilo :-P19:06
mordredjeblair: yes - and greghaynes has sent the information we have to the noc inventory people to make sure that we both think the same thing19:06
mordredjeblair: we will get an update from them on steps needed for hardware remediation19:06
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SpamapSfailing right now because the wsgi stuff expects oslo.i18n but AFAICT that isn't available in the Ubuntu packages for some reason.19:07
mordredjeblair: and in parallel we have a call scheduled with the network people tomorrow to get network respin on their books19:07
greghaynesjeblair: er, SpamapS is doing the spin up a BM cloud ATM19:07
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SpamapSgreghaynes: to be clear, I'm practicing. :)19:07
greghaynesSpamapS: hah, we all are19:07
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SpamapSgreghaynes: if this one ends up being our BM cloud without getting redployed.... ;)19:07
jeblairgreghaynes, mordred, SpamapS: i have a really serious request19:08
SpamapS <-- this will likely go into the doc19:08
jeblaircan we please keep!/story/2000175 up to date with current status?19:08
jeblairit did not tell me that we have completed the inventory19:08
jeblairit did not tell me where the inventory is19:08
jeblairand it did not tell me what we're currently waiting on19:08
jeblairi think it should do all of those things19:09
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mordredjeblair: ++19:09
jeblairSpamapS: definitely please put that in the docs :)19:09
SpamapSjeblair: what a naughty story, keeping things from you19:09
greghaynesSpamapS: Ill typey typey that into the storyboard19:09
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SpamapSgreghaynes: the etherpad? just do the URL.. its ongoing, we'll land it in the patch19:10
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jeblairetherpad content should go in docs19:11
greghaynesSpamapS: You deployed this BM using bifrost and loading in the new ipxe right?19:11
SpamapSwhats the markup for referencing stories in commit messages?19:11
jeblair(and we can start landing docs changes soon, we don't have to land them when they are perfect, we can keep evolving)19:11
mordredSpamapS: story: blah19:11
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SpamapSgreghaynes: and thorugh blood sweat and tears. ;)19:11
greghaynesSpamapS: obviously19:11
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mordredSpamapS: also - might be worth referencing that etherpad in the story if you haven't already19:11
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Centralize Release Tagging
jeblairand then status updates in the story -- we have a lot of people in a lot of timezones working on this, and we're going to need something like this (but hopefully maniphest soon) in order to coordinate19:12
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jeblair(or at least, a lot of people who want to work on it)19:13
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clarkbsdague thank you for the devstack patch19:14
sdagueclarkb: so, I think that solves things, right?19:14
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clarkbI dont know,you grok it19:14
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clarkbdevstacks plugin system is still foreign to me19:15
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clarkbso I assume the plugib isnt added to the checked list somehow leadibg to soft updates of reqs19:15
clarkbif that understanding is correct it should work19:16
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clarkbjhesketh ^ I think that means we remove the depends on reqs patch and add the pkugin to os-loganalyze then add jobs19:19
clarkband abandon the reqs patch19:20
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openstackgerritBrian Exelbierd proposed openstack-infra/yaml2ical: start_date now supported in schedules
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openstackgerritBrian Exelbierd proposed openstack-infra/yaml2ical: start_date now supported in schedules
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anteayasdague: looks like this patch needs a push, it has +A from the 18th and is not merged:
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sdagueclarkb: basically now the requirements enforcement is not strong by default, only strong if you are in projects.txt19:24
sdaguewhich... seems more reasonable19:24
sdagueanteaya: looking19:24
openstackgerritClint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Initial documentation for infra-cloud
sdagueanteaya: it's blocked behind the partial split stuff19:25
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SpamapScrinkle: ^^ I addressed most of your concerns there.19:25
greghaynesSpamapS: so with your bm cloud, is it to a point where one could in thoery enroll hosts and see if a deploy will work?19:25
crinkleSpamapS: woot19:26
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SpamapSgreghaynes: no19:27
SpamapSgreghaynes: keystone isn't working19:27
SpamapSgreghaynes: wsg is failing because oslo.i18n is missing19:27
SpamapSwsgi rather19:27
* SpamapS tries with 'master' of all modules19:27
SpamapSinfra-root has root on that box now19:28
jeblairoh no! :)19:28
SpamapSaccidentally ;)19:28
jeblair...i'll just pretend it didn't happen....19:28
SpamapS138.35.77.3.. enjoy. ;)19:28
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jeblairdrat i accidentally logged in19:28
* fungi totally didn't see that ip address19:28
pabelangerSo, I was thinking of adding an elastic-recheck for the gate-infra-puppet-apply-centos6, but looks like it requests launchpad for the bug numbers.  Is that correct?19:29
jeblairfungi: it's a dotted hex19:29
* fungi finds our lack of ipv6 disturbing19:29
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pabelangerMostly because, I wanted to see how elastic-recheck worked19:29
jeblairpabelanger: yes, we have a special "openstack-gate" project for infra-related gate bugs19:29
pabelangerjeblair, prefect19:29
fungiwell, it _does_ have ipv6 linklocal addressing, but a lot of good that does me19:29
* jeblair makes a sandwich19:30
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openstackgerritChristopher Aedo proposed openstack-infra/puppet-apps_site: Enable CORS for app-catalog
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for failing puppet-apply-centos6 job
pabelangerjeblair, Going to spend some time tomorrow and friday trying to debug that19:37
nibalizerpabelanger: do we have superious failuers in apply-centos6?19:37
nibalizerthat should be highly deterministic19:37
nibalizerspurious? seprious? spelling is hard19:38
jeblairthey are spurious19:38
jeblair(though high frequency recently)19:38
pabelangernibalizer, yes.  From my understanding the git client is timing out for some reason19:38
pabelangernot sure how long it has been going on19:38
fungipabelanger: it seemed to start the same day we updated for the "ghost" vulnerability19:39
pabelangerfungi, roger.  That will give me a starting point19:39
clarkbits not timing out19:39
clarkbit deadlocks19:39
fungiwhich leaves me suspicious that there's something going on with name resolution in glibc, but i have no evidence to back that up since i've been unable to reproduce the behavior under a debugger19:40
clarkbthen jenkins times out and fails the job19:40
mordredShrews, dguerri`, SpamapS: I just proposed like a dozen new PRs to ansible modules, fyi19:40
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mordredSpamapS, SpamapS, dguerri`:
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mordredShrews: also, I think security group rule and keypair are ready to go, yeah?19:41
greghaynesSpamapS: wow theres a lot of stuff in that site.pp I dont understand19:42
fungipabelanger: specifically when it happens it looks like there's a git-remote/git-fetch process idling reading on a socket indefinitely19:42
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fungibut the best i've been able to get is to catch a node where the problem is underway and attach strace to the process19:42
nibalizergreghaynes: is the site.pp public somewhere or just a file on disk?19:43
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greghaynesnibalizer: I think its just the system-config one19:43
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pabelangerfungi, okay. I'm going to try and reproduce locally and see what the interwebs is saying19:44
greghaynesSpamapS: I wonder if maybe giving crinkle a key on the box so she can help poke at the puppet bits would be helpful for us all...19:44
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mordredSpamapS: that actually looks good19:44
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mordred(I mean, obviously there is still more to do)19:45
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fungipabelanger: the other thing is i think there's some remote involvement in triggering it. if you push or approve a large stack of changes which run our puppet apply job for centos6, the percentage of those jobs which timeout seems to skyrocket compared to if there's one or a few running19:45
pabelangerfungi, going to play with GIT_TRACE=1 and see if anything stands out too19:46
mordredSpamapS: next time you feel like code churn - you probably want a modules/openstack_project/manifests/baremetal_cloud.pp that most of that goes in, with an openstack_project::baremetal_cloud class19:46
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pabelangerfungi, interesting19:46
mordredSpamapS: and then in site.pp, instanting that class with the hiera values as input params19:46
fungipabelanger: yeah, i tried that, but i wasn't having any luck reproducing on demand, even on a held worker (so no different from what we're running under our jobs)19:46
tchaypojeblair: nope, not me19:46
mordredSpamapS: so not a minusone though - it's looking great19:46
fungipabelanger: i suppose we could add an experimental version of the job which runs with a high git trace level and then recheck that a bunch19:47
mordrednibalizer: the site.pp greghaynes mentions is here:
greghaynesmordred: which thing looks great?19:47
mordredgreghaynes: the SpamapS code in the change19:47
greghaynesthat answers my question19:47
tchaypojeblair: as in, I haven’t been doing anything with greg; as far as I know all I was doing was making sure he had hardware details, which I believe he does19:48
greghaynesYep, I do19:48
pabelangerfungi, just seems odd the failure is always with vcsrepo and the previous git clone / fetch work without issue19:50
mordredpabelanger: I'd like to blame ruby, but we have enough people in channel that experience positive ruby feels that I should probably blame java instead, even though it's clearly not java's fault19:51
fungipabelanger: well, previous vcsrepo instantiations also work without issue, and then you hit one which hangs (sometimes just for a long time and then resumes on its own, sometimes until the job itself reaches timeout)19:51
pabelangermordred, blame canada?19:51
fungii think where ruby's concerned, it's blame japan?19:51
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Do not merge
pabelangerfungi, Ya, an experimental job my be worth it too19:53
fungianyway, if you look at the runtime even on successful apply jobs for centos6, you'll note that it takes 2x or longer compared to the same on precise and trusty. not sure if that's because of the particular servers we set for that platform compared to the others or what19:53
pabelangereither way, I'll spend some cycles on it19:53
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fungipabelanger: awesome, thanks. it's been annoying us for months so a fresh pair of eyes will be great19:53
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dguerrimordred: wow!19:55
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mordreddguerri: next step - make them work :)19:58
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greghaynesSpamapS: you see the 2015-06-24 19:32:34.530 18700 CRITICAL keystone [-] ImportError: No module named persistence.backends.sql spam in keystone log?20:00
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mordredgreghaynes: SpamapS docs tell me that HP1 has all one type of hardware and HP2 has all a different type of hardware - that's not what I was expecting - that's what we learned from inventory?20:01
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greghaynesmordred: I dont have any info on hw in hp220:02
greghaynesmordred: so, unsure20:02
mordredgreghaynes: ah - nod20:02
greghaynesSpamapS: That error makes me think that our config is more up to date than our pacakges20:03
greghaynesSpamapS: Also, openssl s_client points at keystone not serving an ssl cert20:03
jeblairmmm pancakes20:03
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mordredgreghaynes: kinda makes me think it would be cool to attach a yaml version of the inventory output of each site to the docs dir20:04
greghaynesmordred: Looks like all the hw I was able to hit in hp1 was the same20:04
mordredgreghaynes: interesting20:05
mordredgreghaynes: I look forward to the day when we can hit all of it20:05
greghayneshah, you and me both20:05
mordredgreghaynes: because I have a low definition of fun20:05
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greghaynesmordred: and the bastion in hp2 is a totally different type of hw, so that does seem plausible20:06
greghaynescrinkle: care to enlighten the very puppet experienced on 20:10] [17] [irc/freenode] 7:#openstack-infra(+cnt){453}* [H: 12(65), 6]                                                                     │[20:10] [17] [irc/freenode] 5:#tripleo(+cn){120}* [H: 12(65), 6]20:10
greghayneser, not on that, wrong paste20:10
* jeblair pours water on greghaynes 20:10
greghaynescrinkle: on - what controls whether were grabbing ironic from HEAD on master or stable release?20:11
greghaynesooo, water, that must mean I've won20:11
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack-dev/pbr: WIP: first sketch of wsgi_scripts support
sdaguemordred: so it's terrible, but I figured I'd push the start. But now I have a baby on my lap, so I need to call it a day :)20:12
jeblairannegentle: left comments on in chat20:12
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annegentlejeblair: thanks!20:12
jeblairannegentle: now that i see that etherpad is reused for different things, maybe chat was the wrong way to do that.  sorry.20:13
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annegentlejeblair: no, no it's fine20:13
annegentlejeblair: it's our rolling weekly update20:13
jeblairyeah, it's just that my comments are going to be sitting there next week too20:13
jeblairand of course, the etherpad is new-at-top, and comments are new at bottom20:14
jeblairi'll stop stressing about it though :)20:14
crinklegreghaynes: it is installed from distro packages, which version you get depends on what repos you have, which can be controlled from
greghaynescrinkle: ah, ok. Then is the config provided by the module?20:15
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crinklegreghaynes: yes20:15
greghaynescrinkle: so the config were getting from master on that module is likely the config for master of that package, where as the system package is likely latest stable release20:16
crinklegreghaynes: since there's no repo management in that site.pp patch it is probably trying to install juno from default ubuntu repos20:16
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greghaynescrinkle: is there a stable release of that puppet module we should be using if we want to be deploy stable release of those packages?20:16
greghayneser, if we want to deploy20:16
crinklegreghaynes: latest stable release is from the stable/juno branch, master should be reasonably stable for kilo20:17
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crinklegreghaynes: right the config is going to be whatever was provide by the package except where we set parameters in the puppet class to change them20:18
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greghaynescrinkle: ah. hrm20:18
mordreddefault ubuntu repos for trusty20:19
mordredI might point out20:19
greghaynesSpamapS: ^ when you return - curious if you worked passed that keystone critical error, or if that is the source of much of our pain20:19
crinklewould be better to use the openstack_extras::repo stuff to install the uca repo and get kilo20:20
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greghaynesYea, that would make sense20:21
clarkbdoes uca ironic?20:21
crinklei assume so?20:22
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crinkleshows up in
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Shrewsmordred: rule? yeah. There's a new keypair?20:30
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Allow source-repositories ref to be "*"
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Enable 'python_version=='2.6' for futures and enum34
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mordredShrews: there isn't?20:35
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mordredShrews: ?20:35
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Shrewsmordred: sorry, i haven't looked at that. will look at it now20:37
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mordredShrews: for some reason I thought you fixed it a while aback20:38
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Allow source-repositories ref to be "*"
Shrewsmordred: davide did20:38
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mordredShrews: oh - and you're suggesting that the two of you are somehow different ...20:39
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Shrewsmordred: i'm suggesting you have a drink20:39
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Copy rollcall votes on trivial rebase
mordredShrews: I do? neat!20:41
pleia2SpamapS: nice work on latest infra-cloud docs, looking good20:41
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Shrewsmordred: after looking at keypair, i'd like to hold it back. we're leaking keypair objects from shade20:43
openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Trigger image builds using gearman
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mordredShrews: awesome20:44
mordredShrews: I'll go add a needs_revision tag20:44
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Shrewsmordred: i'll patch up shade, then the module20:45
* mordred will, in return, purchase alcohols for Shrews20:45
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krotscheckI've got a "Channel is not registered" error in - anyone know how that can be fixed?20:47
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Allow source-repositories ref to be "*"
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fungikrotscheck: register #openstack-javascript on freenode per
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Prevent incompatible version bumps.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Test that changes to requirements are freezable.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Remove swift from global-requirements.txt.
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Prevent incompatible version bumps.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Remove swift from global-requirements.txt.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Test that changes to requirements are freezable.
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mordreddhellmann: nice subject line21:01
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fungii'm waiting for him to work in "duck and cover" or "stop, drop and roll"21:01
fungior perhaps "only you can prevent namespace package accidents!"21:02
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dhellmannmordred, fungi : I have to do *something* to get people to read all of the email I send to the list...21:05
dhellmannalthough I've offloaded a good bit of that to dims now :-)21:05
fungidims is now known as email_bot21:06
mordreddims is the new dhellmann21:06
mordredand dhellmann is the new ttx21:06
dhellmannPTLs grow up so fast21:06
dhellmannoh, no, no, no21:06
* dhellmann is going to see what sort of wine is for dinner. er, *with* dinner.21:07
pleia2mmm wine for dinner21:08
fungigreat idea. i wonder if i should have any food with my dinner21:09
openstackgerritDavid Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Fix up keypair APIs
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: Catch errors checking for zuul status
Shrewsmordred: SpamapS: yes, i know the first thing i'm going get -1'd on for ^^^^^ is no tests21:10
dimsmordred: dhellmann: fungi: hahaha21:10
Shrewsjust putting it up there to not lose the code21:10
openstackgerritDavid Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Fix up keypair APIs
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krotscheckfungi: Much obliged21:15
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wenlockcalrkb quick question, who could i ask about storyboard support for github.  anyone know if anyone has asked/or done that?21:23
pleia2what kind of support?21:23
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wenlockpleia2 like instead of connecting gerrit reviews to story board, connecting github PRs to storyboard21:23
mikalHow often do the "updates from global requirements" jobs happen?21:24
* mikal can't see an update from nova for the change yesterday21:24
mikalSo I assume I am waiting for cron somewhere21:24
fungiwenlock: we haven't connected gerrit to storyboard either21:24
pleia2wenlock: ah, no, and there isn't anyone working on storyboard full time anymore (we're likely switching off of it here in -infra in the coming months as we evaluate other options)21:24
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wenlockfungi, pleia2 oh wow, something new better?21:25
fungimikal: as soon as a change merges to openstack/requirements, unless the job breaks for some reason21:25
wenlockis it dieing?21:25
pleia2wenlock: we couldn't find enough developers for it, so it became a liability21:25
wenlockpleia2 so back to lp?21:25
pleia2wenlock: we're looking at maniphest
pleia2we'll see how that goes, hopefully well, launchpad continues to be a struggle21:26
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wenlockpleia2 we're talking here with docker on how to improve triage on stories... speed up review process, pulling from what this community does21:27
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pleia2wenlock: I wish we had a better answer, but once we have maniphest going we'll work to get all the integration that launchpad has for auto-updating21:28
pleia2you're on your own with github though, as we don't really use it (our github pages are just mirrors)21:28
wenlockok, cool, well that was my quick question, tysm21:28
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pleia2sure, good luck :)21:29
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fungipabelanger: is a great example of a job which _almost_ timed out just now. you can see it stalled for ~14 minutes21:30
fungithen resumed and succeeded21:30
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openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Added eslint-config-openstack
openstackgerritBrian Exelbierd proposed openstack-infra/yaml2ical: start_date now supported in schedules
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fungigreghaynes: seems to pass tests. input appreciated21:40
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mordreddguerri`, Shrews: ayoung was just showing me some code he wrote: that might be an interesting thign for us to think about for some of the higher-order composition-type things we have or want in shade21:43
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ayoungmordred, so, I got it working first as standalone CLI, then as an ansible module21:45
ayoungits a little wonky, in that you do21:45
clarkbfungi: did we ever determine what was making connection to gerrit unhappy yesterday?21:45
ayoungansible localhost -i ~/.ossipee/inventory.ini -M . -m ossipee -a "action=teardown worker=network"21:46
pleia2clarkb: fungi blocked a bot that kept hitting it, but it's unclear if that was actually the cause, seemed to calm down after that though21:46
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clarkbthe same IP as was hitting paste?21:49
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fungiyeah, same ip address21:50
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fungiit's blocked temporarily in iptables from both. looks like a random user at some german isp21:50
fungiwith some java-based script/tool if the user agent is to be believed21:52
fungithey were requesting json dumps of changes from gerrit, several a second, iterating over all of them21:52
clarkbkrotscheck: mordred I need to run etherpad-lite's backend tests and I think my underpowered test box may have polluted the results. Is there a good way to run node.js in a virtualenv like thing?21:52
mordredclarkb: nodeenv21:52
mordredclarkb: look in the storyboard-webclient tox.ini - but basically there is a thing called nodeenv which will install node in a virtualenv context for you21:53
clarkbawesome thanks21:53
clarkbprobably going to spend most of my extra non baby energy on getting that patch merged so that we can reenable puppet on our etherpad nodes21:55
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clarkbthen after that do the db encoding conversion (which will be a downtime and potentially slow one)21:55
krotscheckclarkb: Is there a package.json in the project? If that has a "scripts" field, with a "test" value, you can run it in the npm env via `npm install; npm run test`21:57
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clarkbkrotscheck: no there is a shell script you run :/21:57
clarkbkrotscheck: so need an env to run that inside21:57
krotscheckYay standards!21:57
krotscheck...ohw ait21:57
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greghaynesfungi: I dont entirely understand the case where --prune matters - is it if weve pulled in a ref that the remote has removed?21:58
greghaynesfungi: re: the source-repos change21:58
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cindyois an openstackci pypi user in this room?21:59
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bhunter71I do some pypi, what's up cindyo?22:00
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mikalfungi: le huh, either I'm blind or that requirements update from yesterday has gone walkies22:01
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cindyobhunter71: hi!  We created a new pypi package that will be used in stackforge, and accidently made the index owner only you ‘openstackci’.  Would like to add two other people to the package index owner for the package, but are locked out now.  Can you add ‘cindyo’ and ‘angelomendonca’ to
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cindyoI think only you have privs to do this now, and we can’t upload any manual packages until we are added22:03
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bhunter71oops, cindyo.  I hope someone else sees that (clarkb?) who might have priviledges to do so22:05
fungigreghaynes: yeah, we don't want to pull in branches or tags which have been deleted. if they're not on the remote they should not be on our workers either22:05
cindyoyou just have to sign in as openstackci i think22:05
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fungimikal: i can try to track it down in a bit22:05
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greghaynesfungi: ok, LGTM22:08
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cindyobhunter71: I didn’t make the change, hope at least openstackci  has admin privs.  If not we need to delete the pypi package22:10
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mordredcindyo: so - we have admin ability aroudn here - but we normally don't have pypi things owned by both openstackci -and- humans22:12
mordredcindyo: what is it that you are trying to accomplish?22:12
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openstackgerritSukhdev Kapur proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Move networking-arista from stackforge/ to openstack/
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cindyomordred: that’s actually good news, I thought we needed to set one up beforehand when we are a new stackforge project, so that the first pypi push works22:15
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cindyomordred: on our other pypi projects we had both people and openstackci.  We have an initial package up there, so maybe that is all you need?22:16
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mordredcindyo: nope - you're set - if the openstackci user has the privileges, as soon as you tag something the automation will publish (assuming you have the pypi-publish jobs set up)22:16
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cindyook we will keep it that way then. thanks!22:16
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mordredcindyo: yup! I mean, there's often some human attached just because of history - but once openstackci is on there, the human is no longer neede22:16
mordredhrm. it sounds like we're killing off humans and replacing them with robots22:17
fungii know i am!22:17
fungifilthy humans22:17
mordredfungi: we have started skynet haven't we?22:17
fungier, i mean, time to go put organic foodstuffs in my human mouths22:17
fungi(humans have more than one mouth, right?)22:17
mordredfungi: of course!22:17
mordredfungi: it's a very normal human thing to have more than one mouth22:18
mordredfungi: you are  regular human22:18
mordredI am also a regular human who participates in humaninig things normally22:18
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cindyomordred: If we ever wanted to delete the package can we do that by removing everything in stackforge and pushing a tag?22:18
fungii have seen him human before. it's very believable22:18
cindyojust a hypathetical question22:18
mordredcindyo: nope - we have no support for deleting packages or repos22:19
mordredcindyo: because it can break people22:19
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fungionce a thing, always a thing22:19
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mordredthe best you could do is push a new revision up that contained no code in it and maybe printed out a funny message when someone tried to import it22:19
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mordredbut the previous versions would still remain22:19
cindyoit’s our legacy22:20
mordredyup. for better or for worse, we sure did it22:20
cindyothanks for the help, and we’ll get it in stackforge next22:21
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mordredcindyo: awesome! any time22:24
SpamapScrinkle: hey, any chance there's a different channel than #openstack-puppet for talking about the openstack puppet modules?22:26
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Shrewsoh wow. mordred, fungi, look! the mythical olaph creature has made an appearance22:26
nibalizerbut there is chatter of +f ing one to the other22:26
crinklewe like to throw you off22:26
nibalizercan't make it easy, then you'll get support requests :)22:26
jeblairit's sort of like the secret #infra-openstack channel where all the action happens22:27
* jeblair is still the only one in #openstack-rainbow-unicorn-pals22:27
fungimikal: according to it's you're looking for22:28
SpamapSjeblair: pssh.. just like you hoarding all the unicorns.22:28
* jeblair skips merrily to his unicorn stable22:28
SpamapSI've just found the first needed patch for the upstream puppet modules.22:29
SpamapSWe've never really talked about how we'd manage that.22:30
nibalizeris it more complicated than proposing the patch?22:30
jeblairSpamapS: not with a local fork, if that's what you're asking...22:30
fungiSpamapS: you mean as far as forking the upstream puppet modules? (can we not?)22:30
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SpamapSjeblair: For an operational cloud, I don't know how we can avoid local forks?22:31
SpamapSBut I don't know puppet well enough.22:31
fungiafter all, we have plenty of core reviewers for the _openstack_ puppet modules hanging out here in channel22:31
mordredSpamapS: we avoid them by crinkle and EmilienM|off responding quickly when we yodel22:31
SpamapSfungi: 3am.. you don't want to wait for 2x+2 ;)22:31
mordredSpamapS: oh - yeah - we don't care about anything at 3am22:31
fungi3am in china?22:32
jeblairthis cloud is one component in an ha system22:32
mordredSpamapS: this is cloud regions #6 and #722:32
fungibut yes, in general, if it takes a day or several to get one cloud back online... we'll manage22:32
greghaynesSpamapS: did you see my comments from before?22:32
mordredSpamapS: also - crinkle doesn't make mistakes22:32
fungiwe've managed with all of hpcloud offline before, after all22:32
SpamapSso if our cloud is vulnerable to attack, or crashing because of tuning problems.. we just turn it off? To be clear since you can't see my face.. I'm smiling with glee, not being an inquisitor.22:32
SpamapSgreghaynes: perhaps not?22:33
mordredSpamapS: yup22:33
jeblairSpamapS: that is exactly the plan22:33
crinkle0 mistakes22:33
pleia2I assumed we could do local overrides in our own pp file, and the cobble-together-bits-of-openstack "module" is likely something we write ourselves anyway22:33
* mordred imagines SpamapS doing a little dance22:33
SpamapSoh well you guys should have said crinkle makes 0 mistakes earlier22:33
jeblairmordred: i have read that about crinkle on the internet and know it to be true22:33
greghaynesSpamapS: Theres a bunch of spam in our keystone logs about unable to import persistence.sql something, my reading indicates that our config is aimed at a more recent version of keysone than what we have deployed22:33
mordredyah - we can also stop puppet on a box and root something in a crunch22:33
SpamapSmordred: if you call mixing a margarita from scratch a dance... mmk ;)22:33
* fungi makes mistakes with 0s all the time. too many... too few... in the wrong places. it's awful22:33
nibalizeras long as the modules are pulled from git then I think you're good22:34
greghaynesSpamapS: Which makes me wonder - are we deploying puppet modules aimed at configuring master but installing old stable branch openstack packages/22:34
mordrednibalizer: you're pulled from git22:34
nibalizeror we're good, or whatever22:34
SpamapSgreghaynes: it would appear so yes22:34
mordredSpamapS: I believe we need to enable UCA22:34
SpamapSgreghaynes: I was just asking about that in #puppet-openstack22:34
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mordredbecause we're getting trusty's openstack packages right now22:34
greghaynesSpamapS: haha, yea, in SB theres convo with crinkle about that22:34
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mordred20:13:56         crinkle | greghaynes: it is installed from distro packages, which version you get depends on what repos you have, which can be controlled from22:35
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SpamapSmordred: agreed, I was perhaps hoping there'd be an obvious knob for that.22:35
pleia2I assumed we'd use UCA and the released kilo tagged releases for each componenet in puppet22:35
mordredpleia2: ++22:35
pleia2that's what I'm slowly working with on another project22:35
openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make neutron-dvr job voting at the gate
SpamapSI just don't know how to tell puppet to do that. :)22:36
SpamapSwith a hallmark card?22:36
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nibalizerchocolate, i think22:36
pleia2a hammer22:36
fungia stern hallmark card and some even sterner chocolate hammers22:36
mordredSpamapS: openstack_extras::repo::debian::ubuntu22:36
crinkleSpamapS: use the openstack_extras::repo::debian::ubuntu class to install the kilo repo22:36
crinkleyes listen to mordred22:37
mordredSpamapS: might be somethign like "class {'openstack_extras::repo::debian::ubuntu': }"22:37
mordredSpamapS: might be somethign like "class {'openstack_extras::repo::debian::ubuntu': release => 'liberty' }" once we get there22:37
pleia2honestly this is the easy part of it22:37
pleia2puppet just handles this22:37
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Remove swift from global-requirements.txt.
mordredpleia2: well, I mean, it handles it if you add the fancy line22:38
mordredalso ... the puppet in that file is stronger than I am22:38
pleia2me too, it's complicated stuff22:38
mordredclearly it was written by people who know puppet better than me22:38
mordredI mean22:38
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mordred"Exec['apt_update'] -> Package<||>"22:38
* mordred boggles self22:38
clarkbya puppet proper suffers from rubying22:38
mordredclarkb: that's _ruby_???22:39
SpamapSThat Package is wearing pants or has wings.. I can't decide.22:39
clarkbmordred: but I believe that says always do apt updates before any package resources22:39
pleia2good thing we have smart puppet people here :) yay crinkle22:39
mordredclarkb: ah - neat22:39
jeblairSpamapS: it's really hard to get all the angel wings to align in puppet22:39
clarkbmordred: well ruby enjoys lots of syntax to do stuff that would be easier for humans to read in natural language22:39
SpamapSjeblair: well if somebody would stop ringing all those bells..22:39
mordredclarkb: I've convinced nibalizer to write me a dpkg-set-selections based package installation mechanism for puppet22:39
nibalizerno wait no22:39
mordredclarkb: nibalizer doesn't really realize that yet22:39
mordredclarkb: but I have22:40
pleia2nibalizer: haha22:40
nibalizeryes deny all22:40
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mordredbecause why ANY config-management system doesn't make use of dpkg --set-selections is only because of complete and total bonghits eating of faces22:40
clarkbmordred: but the <||> is a "glob" thingy that says treat the previous thing as a resource type whole rather than an instance of a resource or something22:40
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clarkbmordred: you can also do ~>22:40
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clarkbto senda refresh22:41
mordrednibalizer: I should do a puppetconf talk for 45 minutes only on that one topic22:41
nibalizerits called the 'spaceship operator'22:41
mordredoh! it has a name22:41
nibalizerand it also has the effect of realizing all virtual resources that match22:41
mordredso spaceships and rocketships are different22:41
clarkblifeless: except I don't think these are monads22:41
pleia2nibalizer: reminds me, I'll likely wait on my zanata module fixups until the puppet-community/archive stack lands, I don't think it makes sense for me to keep bending my brain when a nicer solution is on the horizon22:41
nibalizerand you cand do stuff in the <| |> like <| name ~= /someregex/ |>22:41
anteayasdague: ah so it is, sorry22:41
mordredlifeless: you just lurk everywhere looking for an excuse to say the word monad don't you?22:41
nibalizer<|| ||> is the mothership operator22:41
lifelessmordred: It is true, I do.22:41
lifelessmonad monad monad22:42
clarkbthe type signature doesn't fit here since its purely an order of ops thing22:42
SpamapSbtw this is all working quite nicely masterless. :)22:42
dstufftI wonder how I can add a <|| ||> to python dependency specifiers22:42
clarkb~> may be a very specific monad that passes the refresh flag along22:42
mordredSpamapS: yay!22:42
nibalizerSpamapS: so do you have hieradata in /etc/puppet somewhere? and a hiera.conf?22:42
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lifelessclarkb: it was actually the spaceships thing that tickled my memory22:42
nibalizeror have you gone full ansible and its just taken care of?22:42
SpamapSnibalizer: no, just using defaults22:43
lifelessclarkb: because you know, spacemen and space stations bad monad explanation number 34.22:43
clarkblifeless: ah I latched onto -> because its similarish to haskells syntax22:43
nibalizerSpamapS: ah okay22:43
lifelessclarkb: so there was a thing a few years ago; sites dead now. That tried to explain monads as spacemen going through airlocks to get between space stations22:43
clarkbneat, I want to read this now22:44
lifelesson its on web archive. cool22:44
lifelessthe illustrations are dead though22:45
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greghaynesSpamapS: so the other thing I noticed - openssl s_client says keystone isnt serving a thing that resembles a cet22:45
greghayneser, cert22:45
SpamapSgreghaynes: I turned off SSL22:46
greghayneswell, that would do it22:46
SpamapSI don't know how SSL is normally done in infra, but it was getting in the way and I'm just noodling now.22:46
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mordredSpamapS: it'll be an interesting conversation to have in this context22:47
nibalizerjhesketh: you around? want to be my root buddy as I approve something?22:47
lifelessnot even the may 15 snapshot has them22:47
mordredSpamapS: the way it's NORMALLY done for us is that we just buy certs, and we put the certs into hiera22:47
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SpamapSmordred: +1 to just buying certs.22:47
clarkbmordred: SpamapS except this is just to run the bm cloud things right?22:47
mordredSpamapS: I'm not sure if we have larger needs, like keystone needing its own CA or something22:47
clarkbso why bother22:47
lifelessclarkb: they were perhaps the best bit :)22:47
greghaynesclarkb: launch_node is in theory eventually going to talk to this api endpoint22:48
SpamapSmordred: PKI tokens are dead. :)22:48
mordredclarkb: I agree - although I think I'd like an ssl cert on the endpoint of the real vm cloud22:48
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greghaynesclarkb: or at least I heard that idea floated22:48
mordredclarkb: just because, you know, open internet22:48
greghaynesbut yea, ++ on not doing that now22:48
mordredclarkb: but you're also right, it's TOTALLY not necessary for realz22:48
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clarkbmordred: use ssl in both cases but self sign the private keystone's cert22:49
fungiSpamapS: the other thing we do with ssl is in places where it's mandatory even though we don't want it and could care less, we try to cause things to default to snakeoil22:49
mordredclarkb: "the private keystone's cert"22:49
clarkbmordred: the undercloud bm keystone22:49
clarkbwhich liekly doesn't epose itself to the internet at all22:49
mordredit very mcuh will22:49 will talk to it to launch nodes on the bare metal cloud22:50
mordredand runs on puppetmaster22:50
greghaynesSpamapS: oh! that reminded me of something else - we may want to firewall off non ssh while you noodle22:50 runs on an arbitrary location...22:50
greghaynesSpamapS: from the public internet22:50
mordredsure. but when we replace it with ansible_launch_node, it will _not_ run at an arbitrary location22:50
mordredsince it will run in response to commits in gerrit22:51
mordredall I'm saying is that I think grabbing a real cert is probably the LEAST amount of effort choice22:51
clarkbmordred: ok (as far as effort goes you just use the snakeoil cert on host which is 0 effort)22:51
mordredbecause it means we don't have to do anything special API client side ot either turn of ssl verification or to distribute a CA22:51
fungii have 4-5 i need to buy in the coming weeks. decide on details and i'll batch in another one22:51
mordredclarkb: we'd have to tell the client libs to deal with it22:51
mordredclarkb: which we could totally do I suppose22:52
mordredbut then why bother with ssl at all?22:52
SpamapSgreghaynes: thats already done isn't it?22:52
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greghaynesSpamapS: ah, youre ahead of me :)22:52
SpamapSgreghaynes: no, infra is22:52
clarkbmordred: so that your config is consistent between clouds? I don't care either way just trying to point out we can deploy keystone with ssl right now and don't need to spend any money to do so22:52
greghaynesheh, even better22:53
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fungigreghaynes: yeah, our lowest-level server manifest blocks all inbound connections except ssh, adds our ssh keys and sets up root e-mail to go to the infra root admins22:54
lifelessfree certs for all22:54
SpamapSclarkb: using snakeoil should be a mountain of effort because you should have to turn off 45 knobs requiring cert validation. ;)22:54
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mordredclarkb: yes - so - if we do snakeoil, we'll need to set "insecure: true" in clouds.yaml for that cloud22:54
clarkbor trust the snakeoil signer22:54
mordredSpamapS: actually, clarkb has just led me to realize that all of my new stuff supports this very seamlessly22:54
clarkbthe first s trivial we already do it for shade22:54
clarkbmordred: yes exactly...22:54
SpamapSclarkb: OR you have to add the snakeoil cert as a CA to the system, which is like zomg not a good idea IMO (compromise bm cloud, now you can mitm anything to infra)22:55
clarkbSpamapS: you don't have to add to system to trust it22:55
clarkbcould be on a per user basis right?22:55
clarkbanyways meh22:55
SpamapSmordred: hah, you broke my argument damn you ;)22:55
clarkbmy point is that I think it is a waste of time to waffle on ssl so that we can purchase a cert22:55
SpamapSclarkb: I just think paying a nominal fee and doing the CSR dance sounds simpler.22:55
clarkbjust flip the bit and use ssl22:55
clarkband its done right now22:55
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mordredor - jst don't use ssl or snakeoil certs at all.. since everything alraedy works with http just fine22:56
SpamapSstill to mordred's point, why bother at that point?22:56
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mordredit's possible we don't need to22:56
dstufftssl all the things22:56
clarkbso that your deployments are consistent22:56
mordredexcept for ssl all the things22:56
mordredclarkb: I'm not sure what it woudl be consistent _with_22:57
clarkbmordred: with the second keystone22:57
mordredclarkb: rackspace has broken ssl certs22:57
clarkbthe one for the cloud that runs workload22:57
mordredthe both run workload22:57
mordredthey're both real internet exposed clouds22:57
clarkbwhcih presumably is going to be deployed in the same manner with a different set of hiera data/config/ansibleyaml22:57
mordredclarkb: yes22:57
dstufftafaik the Rackspace certs aren't _broken_ so much as using a deprecated thing22:57
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mordreddstufft: well, they're broken in that they spam my console :)22:58
clarkbdstufft: requests insists they are very broken22:58
clarkbya that22:58
dstufftyea, that's a deprecated thing22:58
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dstufftthat may or may not stop working in the future22:58
dstufftbut the only way to make people stop using the deprecated thing, is make them feel bad about using it22:58
SpamapS2015-06-24 22:45:56 +0000 Scope(Class[Apt::Update]) (warning): Could not look up qualified variable 'apt::update_timeout'; class apt has not been evaluated22:58
mordreddstufft: I keep asking jroll and johnthetubaguy the fix it - but they seem to think they have other jobs22:58
dstufftmordred: I tried to get it fixed :(22:58
clarkbdstufft: except the only people that can change it are the servers not the clients22:58
dstufftso did others :(22:58
clarkbdstufft: so you don't make people feel bad you spam them for literally no reason at all22:58
mordredSpamapS: try adding "include apt" ... but also ^^ crinkle ^^ puppet openstack issue22:59
dstufftclarkb: well you make them feel bad so they go whine to the server operators22:59
mordreddstufft: but server operators do not care about silly api users22:59
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mordreddstufft: at least, by their actions they have shown that they do not care22:59
mordredas I've been loudly and publically chastising them over this for at _least_ 8 months23:00
dstufftclarkb: I mean, the alternatives are: Never remove everything no matter what because someone like requests doesn't have a line to the people able to fix it, or message th eonly people who can23:00
mordredit's also possible they /ignore me23:00
crinkleSpamapS: you can ignore that but yeah 'include apt' should make it go away23:00
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clarkbdstufft: or requests could talk to the services directly23:00
SpamapScrinkle: it did.23:00
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SpamapSbut nothing is being upgraded23:00
clarkbdstufft: since requests understands the problems and can fight for fixing them23:00
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SpamapSso I assume I'll just have to apt-get dist-upgrade manually?23:00
dstufftclarkb: requests should contact millions of sites across the globe?23:00
clarkbusers will jus say "I get this error" service responds "thats a requests issue go away"23:00
crinkleSpamapS: yes23:01
crinkleSpamapS: since the packages don't have ensure => latest they won't auto-upgrade23:01
lifelessdon't rackspace have a ux gruop23:01
clarkbdstufft: the alternative does not work at all23:01
clarkbdstufft: so yes if you want to actuall affect change that is your oiption23:01
lifelessthat care about the experience of using rackspace? I'd talk to them.23:01
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clarkbdstufft: its not practical but the in use alternative does not work23:02
clarkbwhich is worse23:02
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dstufftclarkb: it does work in many situations actually23:03
dstufftI've personally seen people fix their packaging because pip whined at their users about it23:03
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dstuffteven though pip has no direct contact with the people able to fix it23:04
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mikalfungi: thanks23:05
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: Optional include pypi package url link in release notes
mordredlook! it's a mikal!23:07
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openstackgerritTim Hinrichs proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add server-publish and server-release to Congress
jheskethnibalizer: maybe, I'm still learning the ropes. What is it?23:08
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nibalizerjhesketh: 19014223:09
nibalizeri've never approved anything before so at least at the beginning having a root-buddy seems like a good call23:09
clarkbjhesketh: sdague made a change to devstack so only projects in requirements projects.txt have their reqs strictly enforced by devstack and he approved your chagne to add the os-loganalyze devstack plugin23:10
clarkbjhesketh: I think that means we are ready to add a test that spins up devstack + os-loganalyze and checks it23:10
jheskethnibalizer: sure, lgtm23:10
nibalizerjhesketh: aight23:10
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jheskethclarkb: oh cool, nice stuff23:11
jheskethclarkb: will take a look shortly23:11
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Prevent incompatible version bumps.
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Test that changes to requirements are freezable.
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anteaya    5 Old Town Square23:32
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anteaya    Fort Collins, CO 8052423:32
* Clint squints.23:33
pleia2fort collins adventures23:33
mordredwhoops: anteaya just mentioned you23:33
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anteayawhoops: so I did23:33
anteayathat is where we are going for dinner23:33
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whoopsHmm... seems like a long drive, maybe I'll sit this one out :-)23:34
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whoopsbut thanks for the invite anteaya :-)23:34
pleia2anteaya: enjoy!23:34
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docaedoAnyone have an idea why centos6 check failed? This is a pretty simple change, and I can't see the problem in console:
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docaedo(this is continuing the app catalog CORS stuff you folks helped me with the other day)23:35
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pleia2docaedo: a lot of them have been timing out lately, not sure if anyone is looking at it just yet23:36
pleia2and I need to run off to a meetup23:37
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docaedook no prob - not at all urgent :)23:38
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asselinanyone know why this fails jenkins? gate-infra-puppet-apply-centos6FAILURE in 30m 07s recheck again?23:40
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Clintasselin: see timeout discussion above23:42
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docaedoasselin: looks like same thing my commit hit23:42
* asselin looks above23:42
* docaedo scrolls back to find a timeout discussion...23:42
asselindidn't need to scrolls too far :)23:43
nibalizerwe should fix that23:43
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openstackgerritChristopher Aedo proposed openstack-infra/puppet-apps_site: Enable CORS for app-catalog
nibalizerjhesketh: failed in the gate :(23:47
nibalizerso no worries23:47
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lifelessfungi: are we running update-requirements yet?23:49
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lifelessfungi: vs ?23:49
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lifelessnvm, we must be installing it to have it working now.23:50
jheskethnibalizer: hmm doesn't look to be related to the change23:50
jheskethnibalizer: think we should do a recheck?23:50
lifelessfungi: the generate-constraints proposer should be able to run now, is the job all configured though?23:50
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fungilifeless: there's still and its parent which need more reviews23:53
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fungilifeless: but the job itself is configured to run according to
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lifelessmordred: ^ 2x+A please23:57
lifelessor pleia2 ^23:58
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