| jeblair | geoffarnold: np; let me know if you have problems | 00:00 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: this looks better: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184559/ | 00:07 |
| jeblair | anteaya: yeah, i feel like i can make sense of that :) | 00:08 |
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| anteaya | me too | 00:08 |
| anteaya | thanks | 00:08 |
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| prinikasn | Hi I am a new contributor and while pushing a git review I am getting following error: fatal: ICLA contributor agreement requires current contact information. Now on gerrit I have my details which match my git config. What am I missing? | 00:08 |
| mdrnstm | anteaya: /me waves (nope, i'm mdrnstm and morganfainberg) | 00:09 |
| anteaya | mdrnstm: ah wondered who the heck you were | 00:09 |
| mdrnstm | anteaya: i'll have the IRC split fixed by monday when i hop on a plane | 00:09 |
| mdrnstm | i have to lookup some passwords and setup configs for like weechat/irssi | 00:09 |
| mdrnstm | but "everything working and usable" was first priority | 00:10 |
| fungi | prinikasn: it's possible you have two gerrit accounts one of which has entered contact information while the other hasn't | 00:10 |
| anteaya | mdrnstm: understood | 00:11 |
| anteaya | mdrnstm: where is monday's plane taking you? | 00:11 |
| mdrnstm | anteaya: Discover in Vegas | 00:11 |
| anteaya | mdrnstm: my sympathies | 00:11 |
| fungi | prinikasn: when you go to https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/ do you see a username entered and does it match the ssh username you're using to try to submit a change? | 00:11 |
| anteaya | it is a life goal of mine never to go to that city | 00:11 |
| mdrnstm | anteaya: it'll be good [except the whole, not being a fan of vegas] | 00:11 |
| anteaya | mdrnstm: glad you have a good outlook | 00:12 |
| mdrnstm | anteaya: have some good meetings lined up that need to happen. and there will be good food | 00:12 |
| anteaya | mdrnstm: meetings and good food, okay I can understand that | 00:12 |
| flashgordon | how do projects make it into -attic? | 00:12 |
| flashgordon | how do you figure out of they are dead or not? | 00:12 |
| anteaya | they ask to be moved | 00:12 |
| mdrnstm | flashgordon: i think we ask -infra to move them. | 00:12 |
| prinikasn | fungi: Yes they do | 00:12 |
| fungi | prinikasn: when you go to https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/contact does it say "Contact information last updated on {some date and time]" above the empty mailing address field? | 00:12 |
| mdrnstm | flashgordon: cause they're dead, dying, or no one cares. | 00:13 |
| anteaya | we don't decide, someone asks and we move them | 00:13 |
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| anteaya | flashgordon: have you a candidate? | 00:13 |
| prinikasn | fungi: No | 00:13 |
| prinikasn | It says "The following offline contact information is stored encrypted. Contact information will only be made available to administrators if it is necessary to reach you through non-email based communication. Received data is stored encrypted with a strong public/private key pair algorithm, and this site does not have the private key. Once saved, you will be unable to retrieve previously stored contact details. | 00:13 |
| flashgordon | anteaya: I may have a bunch in a few minutes | 00:13 |
| anteaya | flashgordon: ha ha ha | 00:13 |
| anteaya | friday afternoon clean up | 00:14 |
| fungi | prinikasn: put something in the mailing address and country fields, then click teh save changes button and see if you get the "Contact information last updated on" once you do that | 00:14 |
| anteaya | flashgordon: what am I going to do without you? | 00:14 |
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| mdrnstm | fungi: there was an issue at one point with something and w/ the move to using OpenStackID | 00:14 |
| mdrnstm | fungi: I had to omit some of the personal data when updating or it failed in a wierd way | 00:14 |
| prinikasn | fungi: tried. It does not allow me to do so. I get an server error back | 00:14 |
| mdrnstm | fungi: i have no idea what it was [assuming this is profile on o.o] | 00:15 |
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| mdrnstm | fungi: if it isn't sorry for jumping into the conversation | 00:15 |
| fungi | prinikasn: see https://ask.openstack.org/question/56720 but it probably means you either never joined the openstack foundation as an individual member, or that your foundation profile has a different primary e-mail address than your preferred e-mail in gerrit | 00:15 |
| fungi | mdrnstm: gerrit hasn't switched to openstackid yet. also the contact information in that form (other than the e-mail address) is discarded. it's just a hack to be able to get gerrit to refuse to accept changes under the icla until it confirms there's a matching foundation member profile | 00:17 |
| fungi | it's annoying and i look forward to the day when we can turn it off | 00:17 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 00:17 |
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| fungi | as the person who drove the initial implementation to do that, i feel particularly responsible for having inflicted this madness on all our contributors | 00:18 |
| anteaya | hence the drinking | 00:18 |
| fungi | yes, the drinking | 00:18 |
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| anteaya | flashgordon's long pause means it is taking him some time to compile his list of -attic candidates | 00:20 |
| prinikasn | fungi: I see that my ICLA has been accepted using my current email | 00:21 |
| prinikasn | I am not sure how to go from here. All I have is just one email address and thats what I am using | 00:22 |
| fungi | prinikasn: and that e-mail address matches the one you set at https://www.openstack.org/profile/ | 00:22 |
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| prinikasn | fungi: Yes | 00:23 |
| fungi | prinikasn: and on that page, what does your "current member level" say? | 00:24 |
| fungi | is it "foundation member" or something else like "community member"? | 00:24 |
| prinikasn | fungi: How do I see this. I dont see either | 00:25 |
| fungi | prinikasn: at https://www.openstack.org/profile/ near the top left under the text that says "you are logged in as" | 00:25 |
| prinikasn | fungi: I dont see it | 00:28 |
| prinikasn | You are logged in as: Prinika Sankaran Nair | 00:28 |
| fungi | prinikasn: right above the red tab title that says "your details" | 00:28 |
| fungi | prinikasn: near there you should also see text that says "current member level: [something]" | 00:29 |
| prinikasn | fungi: No there is nothing like that | 00:29 |
| prinikasn | fungi: its the same thing for my colleague who is having good time to send out review successfully | 00:29 |
| prinikasn | so not sure about it | 00:29 |
| fungi | prinikasn: do you see buttons over to the right? one of them might say "make me a foundation member" or "change to community member" or something | 00:30 |
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| prinikasn | Yes | 00:30 |
| prinikasn | I see "make me a foundation member" | 00:30 |
| fungi | prinikasn: yep, that's the problem. click that button | 00:30 |
| prinikasn | When I click it says Upgrade To Foundation Member | 00:30 |
| prinikasn | which I dont want to do | 00:30 |
| prinikasn | but I assume that I am a member :) | 00:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Geoff Arnold proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fixing errors in original Mercador config https://review.openstack.org/186966 | 00:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Geoff Arnold proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add Stackforge project Mercador, part 2. https://review.openstack.org/186967 | 00:31 |
| fungi | prinikasn: unfortunately without being a foundation member you can't (currently) contribute changes to any project covered by the openstack individual contributor license agreement | 00:31 |
| prinikasn | Ok | 00:31 |
| prinikasn | Now I am a foundation member | 00:32 |
| prinikasn | git review still complains the same thing though | 00:32 |
| fungi | prinikasn: now try updating your contact information at https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/contact | 00:32 |
| mdrnstm | fungi: ahh | 00:33 |
| fungi | prinikasn: this time your browser should hopefully not return an error and you'll see "Contact information last updated on May 30 something something" | 00:33 |
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| flashgordon | http://paste.openstack.org/show/246017 | 00:33 |
| prinikasn | correct it did | 00:34 |
| fungi | prinikasn: if that works, then you can try git-review again | 00:34 |
| prinikasn | it did. Thanks for all your help. Appreciate it | 00:34 |
| anteaya | flashgordon: what date did you use for last updated? | 00:35 |
| fungi | prinikasn: you're welcome, and i'm sorry this is so complicated. we're trying to get new systems in place to simplify it | 00:35 |
| flashgordon | anteaya: github's pushed_at date | 00:35 |
| anteaya | which is what? | 00:36 |
| prinikasn | fungi: no problem :) thank you for helping me out | 00:36 |
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| fungi | prinikasn: let us know if you run into any other problems. we're here to help | 00:36 |
| anteaya | how long has this list of repos been inactive? | 00:36 |
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| flashgordon | anteaya: the last time the git repo was updated | 00:37 |
| fungi | flashgordon: it's worth noting that the infra repos have explicitly not been -attic'd because we collectively feel it's silly to rename the repo simply because it's gone dormant. if things are really in danger of people thinking something dead isn't, we can certainly update the readme with a suitable warning to that effect | 00:38 |
| anteaya | flashgordon: I feel we are talking in circles | 00:38 |
| fungi | and possibly switch gerrit acls on them to read-only so that new patch proposals get refused | 00:38 |
| flashgordon | http://paste.openstack.org/show/246023 is the code | 00:39 |
| anteaya | the script you ran, what length of time was it set at to gather results | 00:39 |
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| flashgordon | fungi: I didn't look at infra | 00:39 |
| flashgordon | anteaya: anything older then 92 days | 00:39 |
| anteaya | thank you | 00:39 |
| flashgordon | so 3 months | 00:39 |
| flashgordon | fungi: looking more at stackforge since I think that can be misleading | 00:40 |
| flashgordon | fungi: although some projects may just be dormant and not dead per se. and may arise in the future | 00:40 |
| anteaya | the only ones I would care about are the ones in openstack, so python-ganttclient, kite and pylockfile | 00:40 |
| anteaya | I'm not touching the ganttclient one since it never ends well | 00:40 |
| anteaya | kite is barbican | 00:41 |
| anteaya | pylockfile is olso | 00:41 |
| flashgordon | anteaya: going to post my findings to the ML and see what happens | 00:41 |
| corvus | flashgordon: yeah, i like a project that works well enough that people don't need to change it all the time. the _last_ thing i want to do is incitivize people to submit changes to projects just so they don't get attic'd. :) | 00:41 |
| anteaya | I predict another fight over gantt and crickets on pretty much everything else | 00:41 |
| fungi | 30-day patchping | 00:42 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 00:42 |
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| corvus | also, we do a lot of useless things, and i think the _least useful_ thing we do is rename projects into the attic; i don't know what problem it solves for stackforge in particular. | 00:43 |
| woodster_ | anteaya: just an FYI that kite is not supported anymore. Barbican is a bit different than kite...Barbican is a key manager only | 00:43 |
| flashgordon | corvus: completely agree just because a project doesn't have new patches doesn't mean its dead | 00:43 |
| anteaya | woodster_: do you want kite attic'd? | 00:43 |
| corvus | echo "This project is no longer mantained." > README; git add README; git commit -m "This project is no longer maintained."; git review | 00:44 |
| anteaya | woodster_: I'm not pushing for it, but that is the conversation | 00:44 |
| corvus | that is so much easier | 00:44 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add text to infra docs index https://review.openstack.org/186970 | 00:45 |
| flashgordon | corvus: was thinking clearly marking which projects are dead would be useful for others coming along after. But just because a project hasn't been touched in 2 years doesn't mean its dead so would have to contact developers | 00:45 |
| flashgordon | because we have silly repos like https://github.com/stackforge/MRaaS | 00:46 |
| corvus | flashgordon: yeah, a project should clearly indicate when its developers have abandoned it. i just think a README is better at that than the actual repo name | 00:46 |
| flashgordon | fungi: you were the last commiter to https://github.com/openstack/kite/commits/master | 00:46 |
| flashgordon | corvus: works for me | 00:47 |
| anteaya | keep in mind a mass email to stackforge contributors will just frighten them, most of them don't actually know our workflow or fully understand what we do | 00:47 |
| anteaya | frightened people rarely do the thing you want, they just do random things | 00:47 |
| corvus | anteaya: i think you are unfairly painting people with a rather broad brush | 00:47 |
| anteaya | that's fine | 00:48 |
| corvus | i don't think it's fine | 00:48 |
| anteaya | my point is that I don't think flashgordon will achieve his goal | 00:48 |
| woodster_ | anteaya: I think is more of a no contributors for kite situation. jamielennox was the last dev to work on it I believe and no one else is | 00:48 |
| anteaya | woodster_: thats fine | 00:48 |
| flashgordon | woodster_: want to push a patch to reflect the fact that kite is orphaned | 00:48 |
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| woodster_ | anteaya: didn't mean to derail things, just a 'Barbican' filter went off | 00:49 |
| mdrnstm | woodster_ barbican /me ducks | 00:49 |
| anteaya | woodster_: not derailing at all, adding an actual data point which helps, thank you | 00:49 |
| mdrnstm | woodster_: (I apologize...it is getting late on a friday here for me...) | 00:50 |
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| flashgordon | corvus: so this is an example of the right thing: https://github.com/stackforge/fuel-ostf-plugin ? | 00:51 |
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| corvus | flashgordon: yeah, that leaves little doubt in my mind :) | 00:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Geoff Arnold proposed openstack-infra/project-config: dd Stackforge project Mercador, part 3. https://review.openstack.org/186972 | 00:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Geoff Arnold proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add Stackforge project Mercador, part 3. https://review.openstack.org/186972 | 01:01 |
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| corvus | compare to https://github.com/openstack-attic/python-melangeclient | 01:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Expand the vote range for governance https://review.openstack.org/186937 | 01:05 |
| nibalizer | ++ to readme wipe instead of attification | 01:05 |
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| anteaya | flashgordon: a much more managable list to kick off the conversation | 01:11 |
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| geoffarnold_ | The wiki page https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/IRC says that I should ask here about creating an IRC channel for my project - #openstack-mercador Is this still true, or is it self-service now? | 01:17 |
| anteaya | self-service | 01:19 |
| anteaya | I'll get you the link | 01:19 |
| anteaya | read the whole page but http://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/irc.html#access is a good place to start | 01:20 |
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| geoffarnold_ | Thanks anteaya | 01:21 |
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| anteaya | geoffarnold_: welcome | 01:22 |
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| flashgordon | anteaya: yup, we will see | 02:09 |
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| kun_huang | need help on building gerrit: gerrit itself is a kind of git host, and is there a plugin of gerrit to sync patches to both git.openstack.org and github.com/openstack ? | 03:31 |
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| zaro | kun_huang: building from src? | 04:25 |
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| kun_huang | zaro: have found the answer: gerrit replication | 04:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Max Rydahl Andersen proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add option to skip certification check https://review.openstack.org/178794 | 12:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Goirand proposed openstack/requirements: Bumps pysaml2 to 2.4.0 https://review.openstack.org/186996 | 13:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack-infra/project-config: keystoneclient non-voting bandit job https://review.openstack.org/185482 | 14:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Fix racey clouds.yaml test https://review.openstack.org/187001 | 15:15 |
| greghaynes | fungi: clarkb ^ should fix the racey test fail from earlier | 15:16 |
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| fungi | greghaynes: thanks! | 15:20 |
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| mordred | greghaynes: you're hacking on the swift thing, yeah? | 15:34 |
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| docaedo | Anyone here know if we have an official group contact on freenode? I created a channel for the app-catalog stuff but did not register or give openstackinfra access (so wondering if it's easier to just ask everyone to leave the channel and start over properly, or get help from freenode ops via openstackinfra) | 15:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/nodepool: Fix racey clouds.yaml test https://review.openstack.org/187001 | 15:45 |
| mordred | docaedo: we do have an official group contact - but it might be easier to just get folks to leave the channel if you've just got a few | 15:46 |
| docaedo | mordred: thanks, that seems like the least painful approach. Will then follow the right steps for gerritbot | 15:46 |
| mordred | woot! | 15:47 |
| mordred | docaedo: I mean, if you have issues, certainly let us know and we can go leave offerings to the IRC gods | 15:47 |
| docaedo | mordred: will do, I think it'll work out but I will definitely ask for help if needed. | 15:49 |
| docaedo | mordred: also haven't forgotten about the puppet module for adding app-catalog to infra, should have time to do that this weekend or Monday (or at least get a first commit up for feedback) | 15:50 |
| mordred | docaedo: awesome. | 15:50 |
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| greghaynes | mordred: was planning to, but if you get an itch and time before I do then go for it | 16:09 |
| mordred | greghaynes: k. I mean, I looked at the code for 3 seconds this morning and then said "thank god greghaynes is doing that" | 16:10 |
| greghaynes | haha | 16:13 |
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| fungi | docaedo: please let me know if you have any questions on the puppet module front (or want me to write any of it for you). i'm around most of the time | 16:24 |
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| fungi | docaedo: also i assume you saw apps.o.o was offline last night because of the linode outage in the hurricane electric fremont facility | 16:25 |
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| docaedo | fungi: thanks - I did see the outage, just one of many reasons I'm anxious to move the site to openstack infra | 16:26 |
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| docaedo | fungi: I set up a system-config environment to play with, but then ran out of time (again) | 16:27 |
| docaedo | fungi: was wondering if the module should add a crontab entry (like planet) to git pull every five minutes? or is there a way to trigger that only when something gets merged? | 16:28 |
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| docaedo | (obviously there's a way to trigger when merged, I guess I mean to ask which way is easier/better) | 16:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix branch for keystone bandit job https://review.openstack.org/185479 | 16:48 |
| mordred | docaedo: so - we run puppet on these servers every ... I wanna say 15 minutes - so specifying the vcsrepo stanza will achieve that goal | 16:52 |
| mordred | docaedo: separately we've been poking at ideas on how to trigger puppet runs immediately on patches landing, rather than waiting for the next cron cycle | 16:53 |
| mordred | those probably won't be ready to go for at least a few months - but they're certainly a desire we share | 16:53 |
| docaedo | modred: ok thanks, getting updates every 15 minutes would be totally fine | 16:58 |
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| mordred | woot | 16:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Christopher Aedo proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add #openstack-app-catalog channel https://review.openstack.org/187007 | 17:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add #openstack-app-catalog channel https://review.openstack.org/187007 | 17:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Fix branch for keystone bandit job https://review.openstack.org/185479 | 18:03 |
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| mordred | yolanda: the debug patch for nodepool https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186744/ came about because we were accidentally getting the region_name mixed up and had failures | 18:12 |
| mordred | yolanda: so I don't expect it to happen again really - HOWEVER - it was really hard to debug, so having the debugging code in there seems nice | 18:12 |
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| greghaynes | mordred: left comment on the debugging change | 18:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/nodepool: Pretty Age in nodepool cli image/node lists https://review.openstack.org/161994 | 18:20 |
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| mordred | greghaynes: oh - you know, we can just add exc_info=True to the debug call too | 18:21 |
| greghaynes | yea, thatd work too - I think nodepool should be good about catching the exception either way | 18:21 |
| mordred | greghaynes: that said - is the stacktrace in the log useful now that we know where BadRequest comes from? | 18:22 |
| * mordred could go either way | 18:22 | |
| greghaynes | mordred: Its not required but it definitely makes debugging easier IMO if its a case were not expecting | 18:22 |
| greghaynes | the alternative is grepping for log messages in code | 18:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Debug new BadRequest error https://review.openstack.org/186744 | 18:23 |
| greghaynes | hrm, do we want debug level there too? | 18:23 |
| clarkb | logging.exception works too | 18:23 |
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| greghaynes | yea, not going to shed on it too much, just mostly wanted to not lose the trace ;) | 18:24 |
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| fungi | anybody happen to have tried https://pypi.python.org/pypi/ruamel.yaml yet? pyyaml seems to have stagnated, while that fork has added a lot of features i would love to see integrated back into pyyaml | 18:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Cordasco proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add Python 3.4 as a non-voting check to Bandit https://review.openstack.org/186629 | 18:52 |
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| sc | Hi, how can we have meetbot setup on a channel we setup for a project? I set up my own bot but it saves logs on my server while it makes far more sense to have them on openstack servers | 23:03 |
| sc | as a temporary solution this is acceptable | 23:03 |
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| fungi | sc: see http://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/irc.html | 23:55 |
| fungi | sc: you'll want to make sure you have the channel registered, access granted to the openstackinfra account, then submit a change to openstack-infra/project-config to add your channel to the accessbot config. also propose a change to openstack-infra/system-config adding your channel to modules/openstack_project/eavesdrop.pp and add a depends-on header in your commit message for the change id of the | 23:57 |
| fungi | project-config change for the accessbot config | 23:57 |
| fungi | er, that was modules/openstack_project/manifests/eavesdrop.pp sorry. typo | 23:57 |
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