Wednesday, 2015-04-08

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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/shade: Add API auto-generation based on docstrings  https://review.openstack.org/17022000:08
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack-infra/gerritlib: Add ability for this thread to die/cleanup  https://review.openstack.org/17139300:09
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bknudson1looks like pymongo 3.0 was released today and it's breaking keystone unit tests.00:11
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openstackgerritBrant Knudson proposed openstack/requirements: Cap pymongo < 3.0  https://review.openstack.org/17143800:15
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openstackgerritBrant Knudson proposed openstack/requirements: Cap pymongo < 3.0  https://review.openstack.org/17143800:18
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openstackgerritMathieu Gagné proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add ability to configure releaseEnvVar for maven-deploy publisher  https://review.openstack.org/16362600:21
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-zanata: Update default zanata client version to latest available  https://review.openstack.org/17143000:23
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clarkbmtreinish: oh! it runs serially00:24
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-zanata: Add apache configuration for zanata  https://review.openstack.org/16401100:25
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ianwfungi / anyone : finished with 104.239.166.75 .  it did not oom when i ran the glusterfs tests00:28
clarkbianw: I can delete it. It didn't oom after you yum updated?00:29
ianwclarkb: no, i updated the host & ran the same set of commands that was reliably ooming and it got through tempest00:29
ianwclarkb: it was not flush with memory though.  if you can get me an ubuntu rax host, i would like to run the same thing with my monitoring and compare00:30
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ianwclarkb: actually, don't worry, i can see from dstat00:32
ianwthe numbers from http://logs.openstack.org/27/162927/7/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full-glusterfs-nv/928b9d1/logs/dstat.txt.gz look about the same as on centos00:32
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clarkbwe really do ride a fine line there00:33
clarkbanyways I have to go get my key but will have that node cleaned up shortly00:34
clarkbianw: its fun to watch it go from about 4.5GB of cache to 45MB of cache00:34
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack-infra/gerritlib: Add ability for this thread to die/cleanup  https://review.openstack.org/17139300:36
harlowjaok ^ i also added tests (vs none at all)00:37
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clarkbianw: anything I should grab from the node before I delete it?00:37
ianwclarkb: no thanks; i stream everything off it because i expect it to die :)00:37
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack-infra/gerritlib: Add ability for this thread to die/cleanup  https://review.openstack.org/17139300:40
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ianwmax point on a ubuntu run : used/buffers/cache/free -> 7181M/1672k/159M/139M00:42
ianwthere's not a lot to play with there00:42
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fungiaway00:44
fungiheh00:45
fungithat / makes all the difference00:45
fungiclarkb: looking at the zuul apache changes now00:46
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clarkbmordred: you abandoned https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157512/ which is :(00:47
clarkbmordred: nodepool is spewing deprecation warnings left and right00:47
openstackgerritThanh Ha proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Add prerequisits for nodepool on RHEL7  https://review.openstack.org/17070000:50
fungiclarkb: ianw: as for limits in general (memory, timeouts, whatever), no matter what we set them to software will rapidly approach them. not long ago we could run devstack/tempest jobs in 2gb ram, then 4gb, now 8gb and if we up it to 16gb we'll start hitting that soon enough00:50
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fungithere's no significant incentive to keep things efficient until they bump up against a hard limit00:51
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack-infra/gerritlib: Add ability for this thread to die/cleanup  https://review.openstack.org/17139300:53
clarkbok I am giving yolanda's puppet-cgit apache config change a go on git01 now00:53
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack-infra/gerritlib: Add ability for this thread to die/cleanup  https://review.openstack.org/17139300:55
ianwfungi: sure, but there's no effective way for someone to monitor usage at the moment.  i'm thinking we should be firstly posting max-peak points to statsd for each verify job, so we can track it across changes.00:56
clarkbianw: should be able to do that via sort | tail -1 ya?00:56
ianwfungi: and secondly we should keep snapshots of the process listing at max peak times so we can see who is taking up memory, and correlate between changes00:56
fungithat all sounds like great ideas00:57
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ianwclarkb: a little more than that, but yeah i'll get something together00:57
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack-infra/gerritlib: Add new tests to ensure data is captured  https://review.openstack.org/17144901:00
clarkbselinux makes puppet really slow01:01
fungiit also makes penguins cry01:03
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clarkbok cgit change lgtm (it changes the order of the items but that shouldn't matter)01:04
clarkbI am going to approve it now01:05
clarkb160885 for those following along01:05
clarkbfungi: ^01:05
fungiyep, sounds fine01:06
fungithanks for testing it manually01:06
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clarkbprotip remember when cloning a puppet-$module repo into your puppet environment to clone it to $module and not puppet-$module01:08
clarkbmy first run was a noop due to ^01:08
fungiheh01:08
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mordredclarkb: we're a day away from merging the other change that will fix that01:14
jogogreghaynes clarkb: search http://logs.openstack.org/10/171410/1/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/68985ac/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz for completed pip_install in01:15
clarkbmordred: you just said you won't do it this week...01:15
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jogohttp://paste.openstack.org/show/20000301:16
jogowe spend over 3 minutes in pip_install01:16
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: Add configurable settings for httpd.conf  https://review.openstack.org/16088501:17
fungii think i'm winding down for the night. will pick things up again in the morning01:18
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: DO NOT MERGE testing neutron DVR aiopcpu  https://review.openstack.org/17145201:18
clarkbfungi: ^ I am going to take a shot at making dvr work01:18
fungiexciting!01:19
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jogoif only we could get a second review to get aiopcpu nova-net working again (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168408/)01:22
clarkbjogo: does that include tempest tox runs?01:22
jogoclarkb: anything in devstack.log01:23
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jogoso AFAIK no, we don't use pip_install for any thing tempest01:25
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jogoclarkb: that does include pip_install -e01:27
jogolike pip_install -e /opt/stack/new/swift01:27
jogowhich takes 51 seconds01:27
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clarkbjogo: huh what is swift installing that takes so long?01:28
clarkbis it the erasure coding lib?01:28
jogoyup!01:28
jogoafaik PyECLib-1.0.601:29
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clarkbhrm I think my change will fail because neutron with devstack expects PUBLIC_INTERFACE to be used with provider networks01:30
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clarkbI don't know what additional info people have when they say neutron isn't more obtuse than nove network01:32
clarkbbut figuring out nova network is dead simple and neutron dvr is not01:32
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clarkbit looks like neutron without provider networks expects eth0 and eth1 to exist?01:39
clarkbhow does neutron work at all on our single node setups without multiple interfaces?01:39
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clarkbOH! I bet its just created br-ex and br-int and not adding eth0/eth1 to it01:41
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clarkbya that appears to be the case01:43
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clarkbbut now I am really confused at how the non dvr neutron aiopcpu job ever worked02:06
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clarkbjogo: ^ do you know how it works?02:09
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clarkbjogo: d-g and devstack both do not setup any connectivity between nodes in that job. So it must be neutron setting up its own tunnels02:10
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clarkbI wonder if that is what is going on02:11
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openstackgerritClint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed openstack-infra/shade: Refactor caching to allow per-method invalidate  https://review.openstack.org/17145602:28
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jogoclarkb: no, I stay away from neutron02:44
wenlockhey guys, i was chasing a bug tonight we have with master.pp on installing latest version of jenkins vs 1.565.3 version, because gearman seems to be broken on latest version of jenkins for us.  I was trying to find how jenkins slave install package is managed, and keeps it at 1.565.3.  Does anyone know where i can find that code?02:46
clarkbjogo: ok I figured it out, the non dvr runs set up a vxlan tunnel (without the multicast stuff so maybe that does work afterall) between the two nodes. This happens as part of q-agt running02:47
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clarkbjogo: so devstack doesn't appear to set that up at all02:47
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clarkbwenlock: its done by hand02:48
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wenlockahh02:48
clarkbwenlock: because you can't just puppet jenkins :(02:48
clarkbin particular its not safe to update the config while jenkins is running02:48
wenlockclarkb yeah i saw that you can't pin it at all02:48
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clarkbjogo: but with DVR that doesn't happen according to my logs02:49
wenlockclarkb so would an approach to download a war file to downgrade it afterwords be a good approach?02:49
wenlockie; place it in /usr/share/jenkins/jenkins.war to force it02:50
clarkbjogo: http://logs.openstack.org/08/168408/6/experimental/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-aiopcpu-full/ab029af/logs/screen-q-agt.txt.gz#_2015-04-06_22_06_57_028 it does that on both sides but I do not see those ip addrs configured anywhere so it may negotiate that over rabbit02:51
clarkbwenlock: we dpkg -i the .deb for the version we want02:51
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wenlockclarkb, ahh so pull the dpkg and use that instead, hmmm... like master.pp needs an install_method option...02:52
clarkboh I wonder if tunnel_sync works only if you have nonlocal l3 service?02:54
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: DO NOT MERGE testing neutron DVR aiopcpu  https://review.openstack.org/17145203:01
clarkbthere lets see how that does03:01
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clarkbjogo: I think ^ may be the issue, but we shall see03:14
clarkbthe dvr'd nodes did end up setting up some vxlan ports03:15
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clarkbthen I think the only thing we need is packets to go from control node where tempest is running to public IP of VM on compute node. The nova gre tunnel setup may do that for us03:17
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed stackforge/gertty: Don't enqueue full syncs when going offline  https://review.openstack.org/17145703:24
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jeblairtchaypo: ^ i wrote that change after reading your log03:24
jeblairtchaypo: i think that explains why it took way too long to sync, why the queue seemed to grow without bound, and why it worked better after restarting03:25
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jeblairtchaypo: thanks so much for the debug log; i would not have seen that without it03:27
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tchaypo<303:30
tchaypoAll I did was add a flag and save a file, you did the brain-work03:30
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tchaypoThanks :) I'll apply that this afternoon03:32
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mordredclarkb: I don't want to merge the glance related change - I'm ok merging the "use shade to get a nova_client" change - that once doesn't scare me - it is almost a no-op03:40
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: DO NOT MERGE testing neutron DVR aiopcpu  https://review.openstack.org/17145204:01
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openstackgerritAdam Gandelman proposed openstack-infra/project-config: python-ironicclient: Make src job voting, drop pxe_ssh job  https://review.openstack.org/17142604:24
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: DO NOT MERGE testing neutron DVR aiopcpu  https://review.openstack.org/17145205:29
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openstackgerritClint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed openstack-infra/shade: Refactor caching to allow per-method invalidate  https://review.openstack.org/17145605:32
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openstackgerritClint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed openstack-infra/shade: Refactor caching to allow per-method invalidate  https://review.openstack.org/17145605:35
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Normalize projects.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/17147306:16
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openstackgerritHuang Rui proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create neutron-zvm-plugin project on StackForge  https://review.openstack.org/17103006:34
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Remove devstack-f20 nodes  https://review.openstack.org/16744306:54
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Turn F20 min-ready down to zero before removal  https://review.openstack.org/17148506:54
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openstackgerritBharat Kumar Kobagana proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Archive glusterfs logs and config  https://review.openstack.org/17150007:21
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openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Pull o_p::server invocation out of afs roles  https://review.openstack.org/17136908:42
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openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/puppet-puppet: Fix linting issues  https://review.openstack.org/17152208:49
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openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/puppet-puppet: Add .gitreview  https://review.openstack.org/17134408:52
openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/puppet-puppet: Module is puppet, not simpleproxy  https://review.openstack.org/17134508:52
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openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Manage hiera.yaml on all hosts  https://review.openstack.org/16487008:56
openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Setup hiera lookups to do common,group,fqdn  https://review.openstack.org/16484508:56
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Allow configuring all lodgeit parameters on paste  https://review.openstack.org/17152608:59
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nibalizeryolanda: do you know why https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153819/ hasn't gone through yet?09:08
yolandawow, it has a lot of positive revies09:08
yolandano idea09:08
yolandatopc09:08
yolandatopic09:09
yolandalet me add it09:09
yolandaah, i cannot09:09
nibalizerhm?09:09
nibalizerno i mean it has the workflow +1 so09:09
nibalizerit should have09:09
yolandaah, lookinig now09:09
nibalizerunless maybe zuul was derping when that came through09:09
yolandastrange, yes09:09
nibalizermaybe 'reverify' ? but i thought that went away09:09
yolandatry another recheck?09:09
nibalizerok09:10
yolandait had a dependency, but it has been merged09:10
yolandaso no idea on why it's blocked09:10
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openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Print the node definition before apply test  https://review.openstack.org/16734609:13
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-jeepyb: Add helpers to execute manage_projects  https://review.openstack.org/17153809:41
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yolandanibalizer, that's faster review ever!09:56
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nibalizer:P09:57
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-jeepyb: Add helpers to execute manage_projects  https://review.openstack.org/17153810:10
openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-jeepyb: Add helpers to execute manage_projects  https://review.openstack.org/17153810:11
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openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Bring in module to manage update-alternatives  https://review.openstack.org/17155610:14
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-gerrit: Move cronjob of manage projects to jeepyb  https://review.openstack.org/16166310:27
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openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/puppet-jenkins: Add dpkg architeture facts  https://review.openstack.org/17156010:30
yolandanibalizer, having an escape error with Warning: Unrecognised escape sequence '\%' in file /home/jenkins/workspace/gate-puppet-jeepyb-puppet-syntax/manifests/fetch_remotes.pp at line 2710:30
yolandai havent' touched that, only added a double quote instead of single one10:30
yolanda\% is not recognized by puppet?10:30
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-jeepyb: Add helpers to execute manage_projects  https://review.openstack.org/17153810:32
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nibalizeryolanda: yea if you have that so that cron doesn't interpret the %?10:35
nibalizeri've never figured out how to make it stop :P10:36
yolandabut it throws a warning10:36
nibalizertomorrow maybe I can look into it deeper10:36
yolandaso i shall leave the \% ?10:36
nibalizerya10:36
yolandaok10:36
openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-jeepyb: Add helpers to execute manage_projects  https://review.openstack.org/17153810:37
openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Move manage_projects logic to puppet-jeepyb  https://review.openstack.org/17156510:46
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add test-results to check-neutron-dsvm-api job  https://review.openstack.org/17158711:55
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/requirements: Add ironic-discoverd to projects.txt  https://review.openstack.org/15627012:00
dtantsurhi infra! could someone have a look at ^^^? it's been around for some time already12:00
openstackgerritJan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Allow inclusion of multiple files  https://review.openstack.org/17159112:02
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mtreinishclarkb: yeah that run looks like it was serial, although I'm not sure why. I thought they finally got a full parallel job working with pg not too long ago12:32
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openstackgerritMarton Kiss proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Fix smartcn analyzer warnings on puppet-run  https://review.openstack.org/17160012:41
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sdaguemtreinish: man, you are up early :)12:44
sdaguefungi: https://jenkins03.openstack.org/job/gate-oslo.messaging-pep8/479/console 502 proxy error? is that something on the jenkins side, or is that swift tanking?12:44
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fungisdague: that's the uploader trying (and failing) to obtain the console log from the jenkins master12:45
sdagueok12:46
fungisdague: it could imply that jenkins03 is in a sad state. i'll check12:46
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mtreinishsdague: just a bit :)12:47
sdagueoh look, python ironicclient released an incompatible thing12:48
sdague<Released python-ironicclient 0.5.0 2015-04-06 14:56:20>12:48
mtreinishoh, is release freeze over? (wants to push a new tempest lib)12:49
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fungijenkins03 looks like it might be starting to exhibit the thread leak we've been seeing, so i've put it into prepare for shutdown to limit further damage and will restart it once it's quiesced12:53
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sdaguewell, they shouldn't have released12:57
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sdaguea lot of stable is going to be borked because of it13:10
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mtreinishsdague: sure, but that's been the same old story almost every time a client has released the past few months. :(13:12
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sdagueyeh, so this is arguably a devstack bug that was not anticipated by the gr capping13:12
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sdaguehttps://review.openstack.org/171620 might fix it13:24
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mtreinishclarkb, flashgordon: per our discussion yesterday: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171627/113:31
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mtreinishsdague: oh you know, I thought I saw a patch which added the caps to stable devstack when things were manually pip installed13:31
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dtroyermtreinish: are you thinking of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171416/ ?13:33
rcarrillocruzmay i please get reviews for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168572/3 ? easy to review, blocking us to deploy test infras with ansible13:33
mtreinishdtroyer: yep13:33
sdagueI really don't want to maintain the version in devstack as well if it's in gr13:34
sdagueit seems better to pull from there13:34
sdaguehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/171613/ is the master version13:34
openstackgerritMarton Kiss proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Fix smartcn analyzer warnings on puppet-run  https://review.openstack.org/17160013:34
dtroyerok, so this is what I get for totally losing touch with things for a few days…13:35
sdague:)13:35
dtroyerI read that as it wasn't in g-r for some stupid reason13:35
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sdagueno, it is, and we had a few add hoc uses of gr13:35
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sdaguelike https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171613/1/lib/tempest,cm13:36
dtroyerI see the new function…great idea13:36
sdagueand https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171613/1/lib/horizon,cm13:36
sdaguebut we should just default to using it, except when we need to do things like pass -e to pip_install13:36
mtreinishsdague: well I +2'd the master version, when jenkins comes back I'll +2 the juno as well13:36
dtroyersdague: would it make sense to flip that as using -e is less common?13:37
sdaguedtroyer: it might13:37
sdaguethough, I was trying not to introduce other bugs in the process :)13:37
sdagueI almost tried to just make pip_install do the right thing, but that started getting complicated13:38
dtroyerright…  this is good, it makes you choose that behaviour and we don't add a bunch of option handling13:38
sdaguethe other thing is I've got the grenade refactor in volatile memory so I didn't want to loose that13:39
sdaguewhich, by the way, this is sort of the critical patch on this garden path - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171375/13:39
sdagueand I think we want general agreement that that is the right thing before moving forward13:40
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add a centos-6 node label  https://review.openstack.org/17128613:40
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openstackgerritThanh Ha proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Add prerequisites for nodepool on RHEL7  https://review.openstack.org/17070013:42
dtroyersdague: I looked at part of that yesterday, it generally looks good.  I don't have a grenade vm anymore so I can't run it yet though, so relaying on the gate here…I'll get back to it today, should finally have some time13:43
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sdaguedtroyer: devstack-vagrant ftw :)13:46
openstackgerritThanh Ha proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Add prerequisites for nodepool on RHEL7  https://review.openstack.org/17070013:46
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mtreinishsdague: heh, when was the last commit pushed to that :)13:47
sdague11 days ago13:47
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rcarrillocruzthx fungi for the review13:47
dtroyeryeah, but it has that v-word in it.  I borked my Ruby install some time ago and never got the energy to fix it.  something harder than brew would fix from its command set13:47
sdaguehttps://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack-vagrant/commits/master13:47
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sdaguedtroyer: ah13:48
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sdagueyeh, on linux it's all package managed13:48
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dtroyerI actually though getting dwarf going in vb would be more fun cause then we could use our own tools13:48
mtreinishsdague: oh, look at that. I had assumed it was >1 yr ago13:48
sdagueno, people still propose patches from time to time, and I still merge them13:49
mtreinishsdague: ok, then I should push up the patch moving that under the qa umbrella then. I was holding off because I thought it had no activity13:49
mtreinishI guess I should have looked13:49
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sdaguedtroyer: amazingly enough, it looks like that all passes13:51
sdagueeven the delete patch above it13:51
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sdaguewe should probably take this to qa though, we seem to have taken over this channel13:52
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* dtroyer space-time-warps13:52
fungiinvaders from the qa dimension13:53
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AJaegerfungi, do you need help to fight them off? ;)13:54
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AJaegeror do you call it a friendly invasion? :)13:55
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fungimore of a back-yard barbecue13:56
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AJaegerwith more guests than expected?13:56
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funginah, just very talkative neighbors13:59
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openstackgerritFabien Boucher proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Move some hardcoded values as parameters for zuul manifests  https://review.openstack.org/16833014:12
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fungiclarkb: jenkins03 exhibited a console log retrieval 5xx earlier, was sluggish via webui and accumulated ~50 offline nodes nodepool thought were gone. did you want to check anything on it before i restart it?14:22
clarkbfungi ya go to melody and check thread count14:23
clarkbthen list threads and count the number of threads that matvh (case insensitive) forremoting14:23
clarkbif thats >num_slaves then we are pretty sure its the thread leak14:24
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fungioh yeah. i didn't count, but it's clearly one or two orders of magnitude more than the number of slaves14:31
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fungiit's the vast majority of the 6,670 current threads14:32
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clarkbyup thats the bug14:33
fungithey seem to be blocked calling hudson.plugins.sshslaves.SSHLauncher.afterDisconnect()14:33
clarkbya thats the sychronized method14:34
clarkbso one gets stuck there and all the rest pile up behind14:34
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fungidoes killing the stuck thread free it back up? have you tried?14:34
clarkbya I tried that and it didnt help. but I may have misidentified the stuck thread14:35
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clarkblast night I got the neutron dvr aiopcpu job down to 15 test failures14:45
clarkba chunk of those are ec2 related failures that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168408/ will fix14:46
clarkbsdague: ^ any chance you have time to review 168408?14:46
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clarkbI believe the remaining tests fail because tempest on controller can't ssh to floating IP of VM on the compute host.14:46
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clarkblikely because br-ex does not have a port that goes anywhere on either host14:47
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sdagueclarkb: +A14:50
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clarkbbut I am also beginning to understand why neutron wants a different overlay network14:50
clarkband i just want to say its bonghits14:51
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clarkbneutron will happily manage its own overlays for the internal VM traffic14:51
fungiclarkb: yeah, i picked a few suspect threads and killed them, but didn't seem to make any difference14:51
clarkbbut for the public side of things you are on your own14:51
fungijenkins03 is cleaned up and back online now14:51
clarkbI have no idea why we would hold a users hand in one case but not another14:51
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clarkbalso I need to figure out where I need to document that q-fwaas and q-meta have to run on compute hosts in addition to q-l314:53
gordcsdague: just wondering if you're patching this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/144165514:54
openstackLaunchpad bug 1441655 in Ceilometer "ceilometermiddleware not in global requirements" [Critical,Confirmed]14:54
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sdaguegordc: I am not14:54
sdagueI was bringing it up to ttx to figure out what we do14:55
sdagueas it seems like a pretty big release issue14:55
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clarkbthough maybe the set up thing is a devstack lib/neutron-* thing? it would be nice if there was a way to say put $interface on br-ex when you make it14:55
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Archive ceph logs and config  https://review.openstack.org/17090014:55
clarkbbut I don't see that as a thing14:55
clarkbsdague: ^ might be useful feedback for the lib/neutron rewrite14:55
gordcsdague: cool cool. i'll post a patch... i was under impression it only needed to be there if a project had the lib in their requirements.14:56
fungiclarkb: you've got me. i've never delved deeply into neutron nor devstack's handling of it14:56
sdaguegordc: yeh, the way ceilometer does code injection into other projects makes it a weird optional but not really optional thing14:57
ttxsdague: I'd say we add it and sync the resulting req update14:57
gordcsdague: kk14:58
sdagueclarkb: yeh, that's been one of the sticking points in making sense of the neutron devstack code. n-net needs an interface, and manages from there on, neutron needs a bunch of bootstrapping before it can do anything.14:58
sdaguehopefully the new neutron work will narrow that down14:59
sdagueand eventually get neutron to own that itself14:59
clarkbsdague: that is excellent news15:00
openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/requirements: add ceilometermiddleware to requirements  https://review.openstack.org/17168515:00
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sdagueif you think the devstack neutron code is confusing, look at the grenade side some time15:01
clarkbhrm swami isn't here but I am beginning to think one way forward here would be to have a single function in d-g to create a single l2 overlay network optionally setting some IPs on it. Then nova net can create two overlays, one for flat_if the other for pub_if assigning IPs to pub_if15:01
clarkbthen neutron can create a single l2 overlay for br-ex assigning IPs to it15:01
clarkband likely use ovs since I don't think we can escape that with neutron15:02
clarkbsdague: its less confusing and more "wow devstack really doesn't do much for me here"15:02
clarkbsdague: so you end up needing to do it outside of devstack which feels weird to me. But likely that is the case because single node all in one installs don't really have this problem15:03
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clarkbunfortunately this means that we end up with two different overlay topologies which feels wrong, but at least its not two sets of code in d-g15:04
gordcttx, sdague: just fyi, the patch is ^^15:04
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sdaguegordc: cool, thanks15:05
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Renamed NPM commands for testing.  https://review.openstack.org/17140915:12
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annegentleare we missing PTL positions? anteaya or pleia2 any idea?15:18
annegentlemostly just curious and wondering if I should ask around15:18
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fungitristanC: ^ ?15:24
fungiyeah, jogo and i can threaten to run for ptl of whatever doesn't have any nominees by the cut-off15:25
tristanCannegentle: what do you mean ?15:25
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: python-ironicclient: Make src job voting, drop pxe_ssh job  https://review.openstack.org/17142615:25
annegentletristanC: are there projects missing nominees?15:25
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tristanCTrove is still missing a candidate15:25
annegentletristanC: ok15:26
SlickNiktristanC: email coming out soon15:26
SlickNik^ annegentle:15:26
annegentlecool SlickNik :)15:26
annegentletristanC: who's running for oslo ptl?15:27
fungidims15:27
waynrpelix: yo, i saw your comment about using inspect to improve MissingAttributeError and InvalidAttributeError in JJB, I have implemented it and am working on unit tests to validate the exception behavior15:27
annegentlecool15:27
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annegentletristanC: is Flavio the only candidate for both zaqar and glance? (last q I promise) :)15:29
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tristanCannegentle: he is indeed15:30
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tristanCall the information is reported on that wiki page: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTL_Elections_April_201515:30
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annegentlethanks tristanC (heh I should've asked "where can I find this out for myself? First!) :)15:31
tristanCannegentle: no worry, you're welcome :)15:31
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anteayaannegentle: tristanC and pleia2 are the election officials this round, they are both doing a great job15:32
annegentleanteaya: I see that on the wiki page now! Thank you for your service.15:33
fungiyep, and i'm looking forward to sending them the electorate rolls when i get up tomorrow morning15:33
anteayaannegentle: :)15:33
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anteayafungi: you look forward to that for 6 months, I'm sure15:33
fungiindeed. i need to find the time to make that self-serve15:34
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annegentlefungi: so far no need for election with no more than one candidate? Or do I need to brush up on my governance rules?15:34
reedfungi, there seem to be an issue with avatars on Ask https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-community/+bug/1441398, do you have a way to check the logs? maybe a permission issue?15:34
openstackLaunchpad bug 1441398 in OpenStack Community Project "ask.openstack profile photo is not functional" [Undecided,New]15:35
jogosdague: thanks for  pushing new versions of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171410/615:35
zaromorning15:35
tristanCannegentle: fungi: well if no position is challenged, then we won't run elections15:35
fungireed: it's possible. i'll compare the permissions on them against the old server too15:36
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jogosdague: find anything interesting?15:36
fungitristanC: annegentle: right. basically the election officials need to tell me tomorrow when i get up which elections are happening, if any. if none, then i'll just look forward to next week for tc elections15:36
zarofungi: would you be able to create a 'openstack/2.10.2' branch from https://gerrit.googlesource.com/gerrit/+/v2.10.215:37
pelixwaynr: oooh! nice, I was thinking of a subsequent patch, but if it appears in that one, I'm all for it15:37
sdaguejogo: nova takes nearly a minute to install all it's dependencies?15:37
jogosdague: wow so it does15:37
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fungizaro: sure, just a sec15:38
jogoand that doesn't look like its from a straight pip install either15:38
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jogocompared to swift15:38
sdaguepecl should go in the wheel cache15:39
jogosdague: we should just get greghaynes wheel mirror up15:41
jogolast I heard it is one +2 away15:41
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sdaguejogo: url?15:42
jogosdague: AFAIK https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164927/15:42
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sdagueso https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165240/ needs to go first15:44
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jogolooks like it15:45
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fungizaro: should we instead branch openstack/2.10 from upstream/stable-2.10 ?15:46
fungizaro: c7f58cc seems to be the branch tip there at the moment15:47
annegentleok who wants to get into a wayback machine with me to August 6th, 2014? Basically on that day all web stats for docs.openstack.org/developer/ dropped off by 1/3 to 1/2.15:48
annegentleis there a way to see what was built on a particular date?15:48
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annegentlethere was a stable branch freeze Aug. 7th.15:49
annegentleDid docs builds change?15:49
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annegentlespecs.openstack went live Aug 4th ish15:50
annegentlehm15:50
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fungiannegentle: is that when developer.openstack.org went live?15:52
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annegentlefungi: hm. I don't think so, I think that was before.15:52
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annegentlefungi: here's what really weirds me out. The layout.html in oslosphinx doesn't contain the GA code at all. Yet nova and swift both have it in their output.15:53
annegentlefungi: view-source:http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/devref/index.html has the code15:53
annegentleand really, I was hoping for a time machine :)15:54
waynrpelix: i'll try to have the tests finished by tonight or tomorrow morning sometime15:54
annegentlefungi: oh is there a gerrit search that would help?15:54
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annegentlefungi: there's age. hm15:55
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fungii'll look back through the commit history in openstack-infra/system-config and openstack-infra/project-config for possible changes on or around that date15:56
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annegentlehttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/age:243d,n,z15:57
annegentlethere's my time machine!15:57
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dhellmannannegentle: it looks like nova extends the theme: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/doc/source/_ga/layout.html15:57
pleia2good morning15:57
annegentledhellmann: ok, there it is. did other projects not want tracking? (or is that just legacy)15:58
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dhellmannannegentle: no idea15:58
annegentledhellmann: makes more sense to just patch oslosphinx and start tracking I think15:58
dhellmannannegentle: that works for me - do we need a separate tracking id for each project?15:58
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fungireed: i'm wondering if something changed with the theme. i don't see any clues in the apache error log and the avatar files look like they have the permissions i would expect (including all parent directories). also i can see my avatar when i go to my profile, just not on question pages15:59
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annegentledhellmann: no what we'll need is to make a variable for project name, so tracking will be for developer/{projname}15:59
annegentledhellmann: I'd like to try if you'll review. Good python practice for me.15:59
dhellmannannegentle: sure thing - I'm at pycon this week, so I may be slow to respond, but I'll definitely review when I get back next week16:00
reedfungi, i'll ask Evgeny, thanks16:00
fungireed: also i vaguely recall seeing avatars displayed on monday when testing after the maintenance, so thinking this is unrelated to the server move16:01
annegentledhellmann: thanks I'll assign myself https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslosphinx/+bug/144131516:01
openstackLaunchpad bug 1441315 in oslosphinx "Web Analytics not being tracked in developer content" [Undecided,New]16:01
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Use gate64 cpu type during multinode testing  https://review.openstack.org/16840816:01
dhellmannannegentle: ++16:01
reedfungi, http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/askbot-theme/ last commit was 4 months ago16:02
openstackgerritStephanie Miller proposed openstack-infra/puppet-zanata: Add SMTP configuration options for Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/16816716:02
reedfungi, i'll ask mrmartin and evgeny16:02
zarofungi: ohh yeah, that makes sense.  do it from stable-2.10 is fine.16:02
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: DO NOT MERGE testing overlay network options  https://review.openstack.org/17171416:03
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clarkbfungi: ^ is one possible directon we can take with the overlay networking. But I would like to see that pass with nova net before I am sold using it with dvr16:04
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fungizaro: okay, there's an openstack/2.10.2 branch cut from upstream/stable-2.1016:05
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annegentlefungi: is there a way to search for "project:openstack-infra/*" -- I tried ^ but it's not working16:06
fungizaro: there's also already an upstream/stable-2.11 there16:06
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annegentlefungi: "help" says "If PROJECT starts with ^ it matches project names by regular expression."16:06
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annegentlefungi: so where does ^ go?16:06
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clarkbannegentle: after the :16:07
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jeblairannegentle: project:^openstack-infra/.*16:07
fungiannegentle: annegentle project:^openstack-infra/.*16:07
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annegentledot! auuuugh :)16:08
* annegentle was trying every combo16:08
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openstackgerritStephanie Miller proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add infra setup for zanata  https://review.openstack.org/16907416:08
zarocool. thanks.16:09
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fungireed: did something change again? i see my avatar now at, e.g., https://ask.openstack.org/question/6415816:12
reedfungi, I have not touched anything16:12
fungireed: i also see yours at https://ask.openstack.org/question/5672016:13
fungii'm on a different machine now, so could be something about the browser i was using on the other machine16:13
fungifiring it back up to compare16:13
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clarkbjeblair: if you have time the discussion in openstack-meeting will likel interest you16:15
fungireed: hrm, yeah it seems to be broken for me on one machine but not another. maybe the working machine has stuff cached16:16
cineramapleia2: will you have time today to go over zanata stuff? it's been a bit lonely :)16:16
reedfungi, evgeny says that probably django-avatar lib is not installed16:16
pleia2cinerama: yep, continuing on that now, do you want to take a stab at creating the translate_dev.pp so we have something for the dev server?16:16
fungireed: i'll check--thanks16:17
reedfungi, he says that once we upgrade askbot the issue will go away16:17
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pleia2cinerama: we'll need to add some secret stuff to heira too, so just reference that in the translate_dev.pp and we'll iterate over variable names and I'll make sure they get added16:17
cineramapleia2: is that like this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169074/ or different16:17
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pleia2cinerama: ah, that's the one, but it needs to be called translate_dev.pp (that's what threw me off)16:18
pleia2we don't name our servers based on software they're running, instead by function :)16:18
pleia2eventually we'll also have a translate.pp, but I want to get the _dev.pp sorted first and then we can copy it over, no sense in making fixes twice16:19
cineramapleia2: oh ok. sounds like i should rename the class16:19
fungireed: ahh, okay. though even after clearing my browser cache i see avatars from one machine but not the other, so not sure it's a missing module16:19
pleia2cinerama: yeah16:19
reedfungi, ok, thanks16:20
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fungireed: also strange, the apache error log timestamps seem to be running 5 hours behind the system time16:21
reedthat's bizzarre16:22
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fungiagreed. an apache restart might fix it, but the machine was running for almost a month before we restarted apache for the migration so doesn't seem like a boot-time ntp race with other services starting up16:23
openstackgerritStephanie Miller proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add infra setup for zanata  https://review.openstack.org/16907416:24
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cineramawell okay then16:24
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cineramapleia2: so i have a couple of questions that might be best addressed to the zanata devs - what's the best way of getting in touch with them?16:25
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Run yum update on Centos7 hosts  https://review.openstack.org/17141916:27
pleia2cinerama: I mentioned https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/zanata-users in the etherpad, emailing that and Cc:ing our contact Carlos Munoz <camunoz@redhat.com> may be the best bet16:27
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pleia2Carlos has been super helpful, but it's best to bring out questions to the broader community now16:28
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add test-results to check-neutron-dsvm-api job  https://review.openstack.org/17158716:29
pleia2there's also a #zanata, but it's very quiet :)16:29
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add Application Catalog project into Stackforge  https://review.openstack.org/16967116:29
cineramathat's a shame - might be easier to go through some of these issues interactively16:29
fungimaybe if you ask in there, it will cease to be quiet?16:30
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pleia2cinerama: I hang out there anyway, there is discussion every few days16:30
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pleia2fungi: perhaps! ;)16:30
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pleia2most folks are in the APAC time zone though16:30
cineramaoh maybe i should stay up late then :)16:31
pleia2s/zone/zones16:31
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fungior get up really early!16:31
pleia2maybe, doesn't hurt to try there :)16:31
fungii manage to catch the apac night owls when i get up in the morning, but then again i have a several-hour headstart on you west-coasters16:32
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/bindep: Accept old dpkg-query errors  https://review.openstack.org/17024416:32
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fungimmm, a few more like ^ that and i can start contemplating tagging a bindep release16:34
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cineramapleia2: anyway so i think our priorities at the moment are a) try to figure out if we can support non-openid logins (for stuff like the admin user, or jenkins for the client)16:34
cineramapleia2: b) figure out the actual translation process and get that working (on dev i guess)16:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard: Fix teams docs.  https://review.openstack.org/17082216:36
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pleia2cinerama: 0) get translate-dev server up :) but yeayep, that sounds about right16:37
pleia2woo, emergency water shut off in my building16:37
pleia2never a dull moment16:38
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cineramapleia2: and if we're counting in hex that means there's quite a bit to do between 0 & a :)16:38
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Don't run check-tempest-dsvm-full-ceph job on stable icehouse/juno  https://review.openstack.org/17091216:38
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pleia2cinerama: hah16:39
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cineramapleia2: which may well reflect Actual Reality(tm)16:39
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: DO NOT MERGE testing overlay network options  https://review.openstack.org/17171416:40
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Run module-forge-upload jobs on pypi  https://review.openstack.org/17098216:42
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Reduce the number servers on rh1  https://review.openstack.org/16796916:42
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SpamapSmordred: so os-client-config 0.7.0 may have actually made it impossible to turn on caching in shade now... maybe.. still looking into it16:50
pleia2all projects have confirmed ptl candidates now \o/16:51
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SpamapSpleia2: any elections?16:51
pleia2SpamapS: not yet :\16:51
pleia2which is a bit troubling16:51
clarkbflip214: you need a devstack plugin in its own git tree outside of devstack16:51
pleia2I mean, the candidates are great, but I do worry there's some kind of interest/vibrancy problem here16:51
clarkbflip214: devstack is not taking changes to devstack itself for this16:51
clarkbflip214: you can add this project to gerrit then we can test your cinder driver against that devstack plugin16:52
flip214clarkb: I've got lib/cinder_backends/drbd for devstack16:52
flip214is that the wrong thing?16:53
clarkbflip214: yes, that needs to be pulled out into a devstack plugin16:53
flip214and that's a separate repository?16:53
clarkbflip214: yes, let me get you an example or two16:53
clarkbflip214: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/devstack-plugin-glusterfs/ and https://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/devstack-plugin-sheepdog/16:54
flip214clarkb: one question from my ML post that is still unanswered is "how should packages be installed"? I'm talking about DRBD kernel module, DRBD userspace, and DRBDmanage .deb files.16:54
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flip214clarkb: I'll take a look16:54
clarkbflip214: you have control of that via your plugin, however if you want to vote you should use packages available via the system package mirrors16:55
flip214clarkb: how would I get a stackforge repository?16:55
SpamapSpleia2: the job isn't easy. I think it's often a case where by not running, the other candidates are endorsing this one and saying "lets not quibble about leadership"16:55
clarkbwe don't want t orely on ppas or other randomly hosted package repos when voting16:55
pleia2SpamapS: yeah16:55
flip214system package mirrors don't have DRBD9 yet, because it's not released yet. Only -rc's are available.16:55
clarkbflip214: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html16:55
flip214clarkb: fklr a16:55
flip214sorry.16:55
SpamapSpleia2: also for thsoe stepping down, I think they often will find a replacement favorite before doing so.16:56
flip214for a pure-open-source driver like DRBD a separate repository sounds like a lot of overhead, for a 20 lines file.16:56
clarkbflip214: I am showing you what devstack has asked drivers do, you can take that up with devstack16:56
clarkb(I had no part in that and am merely showing you how ou can make things work)16:57
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flip214yeah, thanks.16:58
SpamapSpleia2: we could, however, encourage "best leader" instead of "most excited" by having the nominations remain secret for some period.16:58
flip214I'm always astonished anew about the level of bureaucracy in openstack...16:58
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SpamapSpleia2: that way you need to self-nominate if you are at all willing to do the job, and then the election is the community choosing their favorite.16:59
pleia2SpamapS: that's an interesting proposal16:59
* pleia2 nods16:59
SpamapSbut, I dislike secrecy more than less-perfect leadership selection. :)17:00
pleia2me too17:00
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mriedemclarkb: those ceph logs you asked for http://logs.openstack.org/99/171199/3/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full-ceph/45125e6/logs/17:01
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mriedemclarkb: per https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170900/17:01
clarkbmriedem thanks17:01
mriedemi think you'll be pleased :)17:01
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flip214clarkb: "Set the “Bug supervisor” field to “<projectname>-bugs” (for example, “oslo-bugs”)."17:02
openstackgerritDavid Kranz proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for bug 1441745 (no valid host was found)  https://review.openstack.org/17174417:02
openstackbug 1441745 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Lots of gate failures with "not enough hosts available"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144174517:02
flip214would that be openstack-bugs, or (my new) drbd-devstack-bugs17:02
flip214?17:02
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clarkbflip214: thats up to you, you can also leave it open17:02
clarkbflip214: I think more projects are moving to open bug settings17:03
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clarkbsince doing so hasn't been a problem (yet) and enables others to triage and so on17:03
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flip214clarkb: thanks, and "Set up Supervisors for your Project" should be openstack-administrators?17:04
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clarkbflip214: in this case I would just make it yourself17:05
clarkbflip214: stackforge projects are given the freedom to self manage17:06
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flip214clarkb: cannot anymore ;/  "Unauthorized17:06
flip214(, 'owner', 'launchpad.Edit')"17:06
krotscheckclarkb: Think you can take a quick look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170995/17:06
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clarkbkrotscheck: note that I think we don't install chromium (at least not yet)17:08
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krotscheckclarkb: There's a macro for that. 'chrome-install'17:09
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flip214anybody here from launchpads openstack-admins group? I just lost ownership of my new project.17:09
clarkbI might be in that group, what is the name of the new project and what use should I switch ownership to?17:10
krotscheckAny other infra core able to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170995/ ? fungi, SergeyLukjanov, jeblair, anteaya....17:10
flip214clarkb: https://launchpad.net/drbd-devstack/+edit, I'm philipp-marek17:10
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flip214Is PyPI needed for devstack plugins?17:11
pleia2krotscheck: there you go17:11
krotscheckpleia2: Yay, tahnks!17:11
krotscheckpleia2: Didn't realize you were core :)17:11
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pleia2krotscheck: yep, as of a few months ago17:12
krotscheckpleia2: Neat!17:12
fungiflip214: i've set the maintainer back to you17:12
krotscheckpleia2: Expect to get pestered :)17:12
pleia2krotscheck: haha17:12
clarkbflip214: no pypi is not necessary17:12
flip214fungi: thanks a lot!17:12
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fungiflip214: as for bureaucracy i share your concerns. but imagine what a project has to do to cope with the sheer volume of being beset by hundreds of companies with thousands of developers. i think we can improve on simplifying a bit, but some level of bureaucracy is inevitable17:14
hodoshi guys17:15
flip214fungi: while I can understand your concerns, it still feels drastically blown out.17:15
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flip214the patchset openstack-infra/project-config is needed for a devstack plugin?17:15
hodosdid anyone have issues with g-api not starting17:15
hodoson cloud ubuntu running devstack?17:15
hodosgoogling didn't help much :(17:15
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melwitthello, we have a patch up to fix a bug in the regex for the nova cells v1 tempest job which needs one more +2: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171414/ We're looking to merge the final two nova cells patches for RC1 and would like to run the fixed cells job on them, if anyone could please spare a few minutes to review it17:16
hodosi think it's a tinmeout issue with my setup beign too slow17:16
fungiflip214: yes, submitting a change to add the repository to project-config to define the services it will consume is what drives the creation/import of your repository, among other things17:17
flip214fungi: thanks, on it.17:17
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flip214should I do the "Add Basic Jenkins Jobs" section, too? I'm not really sure what I need to put there.17:20
melwittfungi: thank you! :)17:20
nibalizerAJaeger: sorry, on my comment here I meant it wouldn't hit anything we didn't intend for it to hit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170982/ haha typing to fast I guess17:20
clarkbflip214: in your case your jenkins job would be a job to run devstack with your plugin17:20
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clarkbflip214: if you look at the glusterfs job you should see what that looks like17:20
nibalizerjeblair: that went in btw so we can try again to release puppet-httpd at your conveninece17:21
flip214clarkb: and I don't know know anything about all these things.17:21
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flip214sorry, it's really frustrating.... trying to provide a cinder driver means jumping to a whole lotta hoops.17:21
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fungiflip214: yep, cinder wants all their officially supported drivers rigorously tested to confirm proposed changes won't stop them from working17:22
fungiand adding a devstack-tempest job to your devstack plugin's repo ensures that changes to that plugin are self-tested so it doesn't break itself17:23
flip214fungi: yes, I can understand that wish - and I like automated testing, too.17:23
flip214my own project (in C) got 93% code coverage.17:23
flip214but that some open-source driver providers need to read, understand, ... all these requirements, while there could simply be some shell script for -infra that would "just do" all those things ...17:24
flip214... feels misplaced.17:24
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fungiflip214: part of this is making sure that the necessary infrastructure is in place so that the integration testing for a particular driver can be maintained going forward by the people who wrote it, rather than being dumped on the already overworked people maintaining the core functionality in these projects17:26
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fungiwe've unfortunately had far too many parties think that they can just contribute a driver or test integration for the same and then walk away and expect someone else to care for it after that17:27
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flip214fungi: yeah, right. but requiring all other people to understand 40 different workflows just to support lots of paperwork (sorry, it feels like that), is non-optimal too.17:27
flip214"with a little help from my friends" is what I try to get at.17:27
flip214I'd have hoped that there's some small script that does all that stuff.17:28
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fungithere's actually an extremely large script that does all this stuff, and what you're submitting is the configuration input to drive that script to do tasks specific to your repository17:28
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flip214what's "include a reference to the governance change", ie. which "Depends-On: <Gerrit Change-Id>" should I use?17:29
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fungiflip214: for stackforge projects that's unnecessary17:29
fungithat's only for repos which are being proposed to be governed under an official openstack project17:30
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Added NPM executions for StoryBoard Tests.  https://review.openstack.org/17099517:30
flip214so, I'll just go on with "$ git review -t new-project17:30
fungiyep17:30
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Fix regex for excluding slow tests in Nova Cells V1 job  https://review.openstack.org/17141417:32
fungiclarkb: did you see breakside's ipa came in 4th out of 116 american ipas in paste magazine's blind taste test? i remember liking it, but now i need to make sure it ends up on my oscon agenda17:32
flip214would that need a Change-Id (ie. the git commit hook) too?17:32
flip214I saw no reference about installing that.17:33
clarkbI had not, but that doesn't surprise me. I think breakside is one of the better breweries in portland and the world17:33
fungiflip214: git review should add it automagically17:33
flip214fungi: yes, right, "Your change was committed before the commit hook was installed.17:34
openstackgerritPh. Marek proposed openstack-infra/project-config: A Devstack-plugin that installs a DRBD backend.  https://review.openstack.org/17175417:34
flip214here you go, no real understanding, just lots of copy+paste...17:34
flip214I'll be on my way to the train.17:34
flip214I'll be available in a bit, but would like to continue tomorrow morning ... I hope that there's someone awake in -infra.17:34
flip214thanks a lot!17:34
fungiflip214: taking a look now, and you're welcome! there are usually people awake in here around the clock... no idea what morning is for you though17:35
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: DO NOT MERGE testing overlay network options  https://review.openstack.org/17171417:36
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Reflect the fact that devstack takes 10-15 minutes now  https://review.openstack.org/17136717:36
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fungiflip214: i left an inline comment on https://review.openstack.org/171754 pointing out where your yaml is malformed and will need correcting17:38
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harlowjaif u guys get a chance can u look over https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171393/ (i added tests so that this lib can be tested)17:39
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clarkbharlowja: are you done adding patchsets :P17:39
harlowjaclarkb ya ;)17:39
harlowjai'm adding followup ones with more tests...17:39
harlowjanow that i can stop that thread17:40
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harlowja*otherwise sorta hard to have tests that ever end, lol17:40
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openstackgerritEdward Raigosa (wenlock) proposed openstack-infra/puppet-jenkins: add install method option for jenkins to pin  https://review.openstack.org/17175717:42
openstackgerritEdward Raigosa proposed openstack-infra/puppet-jenkins: add install method option for jenkins to pin  https://review.openstack.org/17175717:44
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack-infra/gerritlib: Add basic state transition tests  https://review.openstack.org/17175817:46
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edmondswhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/169442/ is failing in the gate for icehouse/juno, and as near as I can tell the problem is a ceilometerclient version issue17:51
edmondswthat change isn't doing anything with the version... has something else landed recently that added that version check?17:51
fungiedmondsw: yep, known issue. i believe one of the ceilo devs has that bug assigned and is working on a fix17:52
fungiedmondsw: bug 144165517:52
openstackbug 1441655 in Ceilometer "ceilometermiddleware not in global requirements" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144165517:52
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edmondswfungi, I looked on elastic-recheck and nothing jumped out at me... tx17:52
edmondswfungi, why wouldn't that bug show up there?17:53
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fungiedmondsw: elastic-recheck is backed by a manually curated set of log matching patterns, so probably just hasn't been added yet17:54
fungigordc: sdague: does https://review.openstack.org/171685 also need a stable/juno backport?17:54
fungi(and stable/icehouse?)17:55
gordcfungi: hmm.. i'm not sure if ceilometerclient error is related to bug 1441655... i'm not sure ceilometermiddleware and ceilometerclient are related at all.17:55
openstackbug 1441655 in Ceilometer "ceilometermiddleware not in global requirements" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144165517:55
fungihrm, checking17:55
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gordcfungi: or there isn't any relation... unless i'm missing some random dependency.17:55
flip214fungi: thanks, looking.17:56
flip214what openstack needs is a few people advertising "will do devstack plugin setup for $xxx"17:56
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gordcedmondsw: the failure with juno gate seems to be related to this. https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/64130/getting-error-while-installing-devstack-juno-release-stacksh/17:56
fungigordc: cool, i'm digging into the failure log now. maybe there was a new ceilometerclient release and it's not pinned in stable reqs?17:56
flip214and if these would be core maintainers quite a lot of time could be saved, because it'd be a standard job for them17:56
gordcedmondsw: argh nevermind. wrong paste.17:57
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fungiflip214: the infra core reviewers/root sysadmins used to manually perform all new project additions. it was time-consuming and is why we built self-service automation around it17:57
openstackgerritDavid Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add get_subnet() method  https://review.openstack.org/17176017:58
gordcfungi: not that i know of (i don't have release abilities but it seems like pypi hasn't been changed)17:58
jeblairflip214: see also http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-dev/cookiecutter/tree/17:58
flip214fungi: yeah, but someone who knows what he's doing would need much less time - and there might not be a need to have another manual review, saving reviewer time ...17:58
flip214fungi: fixed, see17:59
openstackgerritPh. Marek proposed openstack-infra/project-config: A Devstack-plugin that installs a DRBD backend.  https://review.openstack.org/17175417:59
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edmondswgordc, when did ceilometerclient 1.0.13 get released?17:59
jeblairflip214: oh, sorry, see rather: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-dev/devstack-plugin-cookiecutter/17:59
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flip214jeblair: looking.17:59
gordcedmondsw: end of february18:00
flip214jeblair: what's that?18:00
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fungiedmondsw: "Client disconnected before sending all data to backend" http://logs.openstack.org/42/169442/3/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-python-ceilometerclient-juno/89d4a62/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-04-08_13_37_20_84818:00
flip214ah, a template for the new repository? thanks.18:00
rcarrillocruzjeblair , clarkb: hiya, any chance you could approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168572/ ? we need it to automate dev infra deploys18:00
rcarrillocruzpls :-)18:00
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jeblairflip214: yeah.  it's new, hasn't seen a lot of use yet, but may be helpful.18:01
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edmondswfungi, yes, saw that too... wasn't sure if that was the problem or just a symptom18:01
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flip214so, IIUC, I'll ask about that new devstack plugin in ~12 hours, and then start to fill it, right?18:02
fungiedmondsw: oh, actually looks like it's a swift issue. the traceback is at http://logs.openstack.org/42/169442/3/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-python-ceilometerclient-juno/89d4a62/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-04-08_13_36_41_98818:02
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edmondswfungi, right18:02
edmondswfungi, that's where I see the version complaint18:02
fungiedmondsw: pkg_resources.ContextualVersionConflict: (python-ceilometerclient 1.0.13.post24 (/opt/stack/new/python-ceilometerclient), Requirement.parse('python-ceilometerclient<=1.0.12,>=1.0.6'), set(['ceilometer']))18:02
edmondswfungi, exactly18:02
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edmondswfungi, but why are we seeing this now? 1.0.13 has been out since feb18:03
fungiedmondsw: so somehow we're dragging in python-ceilometerclient 1.0.13 when requirements pins <=1.0.12,>=1.0.618:03
fungiedmondsw: oh...18:04
jeblairflip214: the repo should exist about 30 minutes after the change to create it is approved18:04
fungiedmondsw: so, we can't backwards-compat test changes to master of libs if we've got them pinned to earlier releases in stable branches18:04
fungidhellmann: if you're around, what was the solution to ^ that? do you recall?18:05
edmondswfungi, yeah... and yet we seem to be trying... is something not correctly preventing that, or should we not be pinning there (or both)?18:05
* dhellmann reads scrollback18:06
KrinkleThat's one long job name :D gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-python-ceilometerclient-juno18:06
flip214jeblair: okay, but it's 20:06 here, and I'm on my way to my family ...18:06
clarkbfungi: any idea why http://logs.openstack.org/14/171714/3/experimental/check-tempest-dsvm-aiopcpu-full/6e27786/console.html#_2015-04-08_18_05_57_904 happens?18:06
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dhellmannfungi: clients need to have stable branches cut so that we don't try to install them from master in stable-maint jobs18:06
jeblairflip214: we operate asynchronously here.  have a good evening.  :)18:07
dhellmannfungi: I'm not sure if that's exactly what's causing this case, but I know that's a common cause of similar issues18:07
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fungiclarkb: i've seen that before when trying to add a route which already exists without deleting the old one first. maybe something similar... does an interface named if_br_flat maybe already exist at the point where that's being called?18:09
yolandajeblair, did you have a chance to look at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Nodepool_benchmarks ?18:10
clarkbfungi: no, I am able to reproduce on a node I have held without that link name18:10
* clarkb tried a random other name to see if consistent18:10
clarkbya adding a clarkb-test link also fails18:10
fungicapabilities?18:11
flip214jeblair: and in parallel, as I notice ;)18:11
jeblairyolanda: what's your recommendation?18:12
edmondswgordc, see dhellman's response ^18:12
clarkbfungi: I don't think so, i think I need to add options to add a veth?18:12
edmondswgordc, know anything about that?18:12
yolandaaccording to simulator and charts, best performance was on independent task managers and moving create/delete to new one18:12
clarkbfungi: basically what I need there is an interface to add to the ovs bridge sothat nova net can use those interface18:12
fungiclarkb: maybe needs a network namespace specified?18:13
clarkbI wonder if nova net can just use the ovs bridge directly18:13
yolandabut i think that a better implementation of that task manager than i did is needed18:13
dhellmannedmondsw, gordc: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-specs/specs/library-stable-branches.html18:13
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clarkbfungi: I am going to try using the bridge directly with nova18:14
fungiclarkb: worth a shot18:14
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yolandai liked priorityqueue for simplicity, but it's performing a bit worse18:15
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: DO NOT MERGE testing overlay network options  https://review.openstack.org/17171418:15
fungiclarkb: http://lists.openwall.net/netdev/2011/04/22/33 looks similar but doesn't seem like it should be the cause18:15
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jeblairyolanda: i'm fairly certain priority queue will starve us if we use it under real conditions18:16
jeblairyolanda: so maybe fix up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170788/218:17
jeblairyolanda: seems like the way to go?18:17
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: DO NOT MERGE testing overlay network options  https://review.openstack.org/17171418:17
clarkbfungi: ya another option is to do a pair like that and add one side to bridge and have nova use the other18:17
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack-infra/gerritlib: Add test for reconnect attempts  https://review.openstack.org/17176318:17
clarkbfungi: but I am trying to keep the network setup as simple as possible, so hopefully the bridge itself is useable by nova18:17
yolandajeblair, i'm concerned about rate calculations using that approach, what's your idea there? just double the rate on config as we have 2 queues? instead of 0.1 go with 0.2 ?18:18
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jeblairyolanda: and with 169540 you can test it out a little closer to reality18:18
jeblairyolanda: that seems safe18:18
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack-infra/gerritlib: Add test for reconnect attempts  https://review.openstack.org/17176318:19
clarkbjeblair: yolanda I agree that the priority is likely going to lead to starvation18:19
jeblairyolanda: we may want to consider making the use of it a configuration option too -- we may not want to use it on rackspace (i'm not sure about that)18:19
yolandaclarkb, yes, if we could add some extra checks to don't queue an already queued polling tasks, this will improve, but its adding more overhead18:19
jeblairyolanda: the cache means that it's fine to enqueue multiple tasks, they only run once per 5 seconds.  the problem is that hpcloud sometimes takes longer than that to return.  we could increase the cache timeout, but the main point is that if polling ever takes longer than the cache interval, creation will stop until all servers are created18:21
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yolandajeblair, i know yes, but i meant, to check queue, if there was a listservers task already queue, it makes no sense to queue another after that, as they are going to run nearly together18:22
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yolandabut it's adding more complexity18:22
jeblairyolanda: are you proposing removing the cache?18:22
jeblairyolanda: it certainly makes sense to enqueue multiple ones now -- the first one runs, the second one does not but uses the cache to return data to its thread18:23
jeblairyolanda: if you didn't enqueue it, the thread would not get the information it needs18:23
yolandajeblair, just a thought if we moved to priority queue, then we could just enqueue items over a period18:23
jeblairyolanda: in other words, there is zero cost to having more than one listservers task in the queue18:23
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gordcdhellmann: i don't quite understand, it doesn't seem like there's a stable branch for any of the clients.18:24
yolandaabout independent task managers, i like the idea that Iain commented, to have a task manager with 2 queues, but as we are moving to shade, and using a taskmanager there, i don't like to move that logic, that's only for nodepool there18:24
yolandawhat are your thoughts about it?18:25
jeblairyolanda: but then you would need a different way of moving the information to the thread.  that's just moving the problem around.  as long as you decide that listing servers has higher priority than creating, then you will always be listing servers rather than creating if listing servers takes longer than the amount of time you want to cache the results18:25
jeblair(however you want to do that)18:25
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dhellmanngordc: right, this is a new thing. Because we cap version, making breaking or dependency changes in master will now fail the stable-compat jobs because those will still install from master when the stable branch doesn't exist (that job tries to install stable/$SERIES and if that doesn't exist it uses master)18:25
jeblairyolanda: agreed, let's stick with the current taskmanager api.  we can hide the details within it.18:26
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yolandaok, so i'll go with that change, i'll give a deeper look to that, to review the weaknesses of it, as i just wanted to create a fast POC18:27
gordcdhellmann: ah, i take it that's why novaclient gate is broken as well18:27
jeblairyolanda: we can even do ianw's idea of having two running threads within one manager, but instead of changing the submit task api, we can just have the taskmanager decide which queue to put a task into based on type.18:27
ctlaughnibalizer: I was looking at your change to add dpkg arch to facter... I'm not proficient in gerrit... should I (or is it possible) to start a new version of my change and make it dependent on yours even though it hasn't been approved, or just wait?18:27
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Expose puppetmaster_server param on openstack_project::puppetmaster  https://review.openstack.org/16857218:27
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yolandajeblair, but taskmanager is moved to shade, right? then we need that shade encapsulates that logic?18:28
jeblairyolanda: but nodepool will pass in a taskmanager18:28
jeblairyolanda: so if we had a taskmanager that sorted tasks into two queues based on task type, this would continue to work with shade18:29
yolandaah, that's better then. I looked at some code reviews and just saw some taskmanager directly in shade18:29
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yolandai like that approach18:29
jeblairyolanda: so actually, that might be the best way to proceed so it's future-proof18:29
nibalizerctlaugh: it is possible to make them dependent18:29
dhellmanngordc: probably, yes. I tried to publicize this issue but didn't have many people comment on the spec. I assumed we would sort it out when development ground to a halt. :-)18:29
nibalizerwhat I would do is checkout my patch, then cherry pick yours on top18:29
jeblairyolanda: we'd probably just need to change the task types when we switch to shade, but that would be easy18:29
yolandajeblair, ok, sounds like a plan18:29
nibalizerthen 'git review' and it will get set18:29
gordcdhellmann: :)18:30
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jeblairyolanda: cool! :) mordred ^ fyi18:30
yolandai'll give it a try tomorrow18:30
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openstackgerritEdward Raigosa (wenlock) proposed openstack-infra/puppet-jenkins: add install method option for jenkins to pin  https://review.openstack.org/17175718:30
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Move manage_projects logic to puppet-jeepyb  https://review.openstack.org/17156518:34
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fungiweird... `tox -e zuul` fail for anyone else in branch tip of project-config, complaining "Duplicate entry found: '{pipeline}-neutron-dsvm-api{branch-designator}' is already defined" ?18:34
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: A Devstack-plugin that installs a DRBD backend.  https://review.openstack.org/17175418:35
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sdaguefungi: I believe ceilometermiddleware is new as of kilo18:36
fungisdague: got it. that was a red herring anyway. real issue is that master changes to ceiloclient are being backward-compat tested against stable branches which pin to an older version18:36
sdaguefungi: oh, nifty...18:37
sdaguefungi: is there a representative fail?18:37
fungisdague: http://logs.openstack.org/42/169442/3/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-python-ceilometerclient-juno/89d4a62/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-04-08_13_36_41_98818:38
sdaguegotcha18:39
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fungisdague: suspecting we shouldn't have a gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-{name}-juno (or icehouse) on projects which are pinned in stable reqs, or limit those jobs to changes proposed against their respective stable branches if they have any18:39
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clarkbI am about to head to lunch then finish up taxes with accountant. So may not be back for a bit18:41
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TheJuliawin 718:42
* TheJulia clearly needs to just start using the alt key18:42
fungiit's all full of win here18:43
openstackgerritClark Laughlin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-jenkins: Change installation of the JDK to use the architecture of the host  https://review.openstack.org/16822218:43
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jeblairpleia2: oh cool!  my gertty was sitting on my priority review page, and a new one just popped into it!  thanks! :)18:46
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pleia2\o/18:48
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ctlaughnibalizer: I resubmitted it -- looks like everything showing up correctly in gerrit18:48
nibalizeryea looks good18:49
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nibalizerso infra on arm huh ... any reason in particual?18:49
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: A Devstack-plugin that installs a DRBD backend.  https://review.openstack.org/17175418:50
ctlaughnibalizer: CI, validating everything on arm6418:50
mrmartinfungi: I have a fix for the smartcn warning on ask.o.o: https://review.openstack.org/171600 it was a bit tricky, and affects only sites where the /tmp dir was cleaned as a result of reboot. I did tests in vagrant, works well now.18:50
funginibalizer: nodepool on arm so that you can build arm diskimages without needing to have a cross-build environment to do so from amd64 or something18:51
bknudsonlooks like keystoneclient gate is failing due to ... ceilometer not being capped?18:51
funginibalizer: at least that seems like one of the more useful reasons18:51
fungimrmartin: saw that earlier. reviewing now18:51
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mrmartinand this requires some care too: https://review.openstack.org/171066 because adding new patches to askbot-theme can broke the ask.o.o site18:52
bknudsonlooks like that issue is already being discussed so hopefully will get fixed.18:52
jeblairi'm still looking for someone to implement the nodepool builder spec :)18:52
ctlaughnibalizer, fungi - yes, using as much from openstack-infra as possible, and the nodepool scripts have all of these puppet dependencies that are not fully arch-independent18:52
jeblairthat would really help with cross-platform testing18:52
mrmartinand Evgeny like to work on that, and publish ask.o.o site redesign patches18:52
nibalizerjeblair: my thoughts exactly18:53
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jeblairctlaugh: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/nodepool-workers.html  may be of interest to you18:53
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openstackgerritStephanie Miller proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add infra setup for zanata  https://review.openstack.org/16907418:54
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: add ceilometermiddleware to requirements  https://review.openstack.org/17168518:54
nibalizerctlaugh: sure. did you see my comment about using rubygems to install latest puppet?18:54
fungijeblair: agreed, being able to have an arm nodepool builder worker taking orders from an m68k^H^H^H^Hamd64 nodepoold would be awesome18:54
jeblairhehe18:55
nibalizeralso using cfacter should speed up your puppet rubs a lot18:55
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nibalizerer, runs18:55
shashankhegdeHi sdague18:56
shashankhegdeLooks like the https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/commit/60996b1b60c3efb1376b9f0d659acebd05c47f09 is causing devstack to fail18:56
shashankhegdeI was wondering if anyone has run into this18:56
sdagueshashankhegde: where is it causing it to fail?18:57
shashankhegdeWhile installing the database, the new code looks into the requirements file18:58
shashankhegdeBut the requirements repo is downloaded after installing the database18:58
sdagueshashankhegde: requirements repo should be one of the first things that's pulled in18:58
shashankhegdesdague: install_infra() on line 737 in stack.sh pulls the requirements repo, right?19:00
sdagueyes19:00
openstackgerritEric Brown proposed openstack/requirements: Add Bandit as a global test requirement  https://review.openstack.org/16712619:00
sdagueso I wonder how this passed our upstream tests19:01
shashankhegdeThe failure is due to install_database_python on line 72419:01
sdagueshashankhegde: ok, so we need to move install_infra up further19:01
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sdagueyou want to provide the patch?19:01
shashankhegdesdague: yep19:01
shashankhegdeSure19:01
sdagueshashankhegde: I think it should go before extras pre-install19:02
sdaguethough I'm seriously confused how it passed our tests :)19:03
shashankhegdesdague: let me take a look at I'll push the patch19:03
shashankhegdesdague: :)19:03
fungiflip214: i applied some cosmetic fixes to your https://review.openstack.org/171754 which were causing it to fail consistency tests, and am now good with it. once it gets a second core reviewer's approval it should be set up shortly thereafter19:03
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Don't override package when set in .coveragerc  https://review.openstack.org/17133119:17
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fungiooh--the heat is on! we now have an election for nova ptl19:33
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mtreinishfungi: yeah, only 1 election this time19:35
fungiso far anyway19:35
mtreinishI think mordred should go for trove ptl, that would make things more interesting19:35
mtreinishfungi: when is the deadline, I though pretty soon19:36
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed stackforge/gertty: Open internal URLs in commentlinks  https://review.openstack.org/17138219:36
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed stackforge/gertty: Display file header in top line of diff  https://review.openstack.org/17138319:36
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed stackforge/gertty: Add a key to return to the project list  https://review.openstack.org/17138019:36
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed stackforge/gertty: Highlight own name on change screen  https://review.openstack.org/17138119:36
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed stackforge/gertty: Don't enqueue full syncs when going offline  https://review.openstack.org/17145719:36
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed stackforge/gertty: Fix crash on opening a change with missing commits  https://review.openstack.org/17138419:36
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed stackforge/gertty: Fix error in double upload  https://review.openstack.org/17138519:36
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fungimtreinish: "until April 9, 2015 05:59 UTC" according to tristanC's announcement19:37
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fungiso a little over 10 hours remaining19:37
jeblairdoes trove not have a candidate?19:37
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fungithey do. SlickNik sent his nomination to the list a few hours ago19:38
mtreinishjeblair: as of like an hour or 2 ago they do19:38
jeblairoh ok19:38
jeblairany projects ptl-less at this point?19:38
tristanCjeblair: no more ptl-less project now19:38
mtreinishjeblair: I don't think so19:38
fungiall accounted for, but so far only one contested seat19:39
tristanCmtreinish: fungi: that is correct, a candidate have "until April 9, 2015 05:59 UTC" to propose his candidacy19:40
sdaguefungi: well, all covered only because we have 1 person running for 2 ptl seats19:40
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mordredsdague: I could try _Also_ running for both of those seats19:41
sdaguemordred: you should totally run for zaqar ptl19:41
fungisdague: this is a very good point. flaper87 needs a break19:41
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mtreinishsdague: or mordred as glance ptl also would have a simlar vibe :)19:41
mordredexcept then I'd have to do something19:42
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openstackgerritStephanie Miller proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Upgradewildflypuppet module  https://review.openstack.org/17179019:44
openstackgerritStephanie Miller proposed openstack-infra/puppet-zanata: Upgrade wildfly puppet module  https://review.openstack.org/17179119:45
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jeblaircinerama: are those tabs in the commit message of https://review.openstack.org/171790 ?19:46
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cineramajeblair: that is so weird, right? i think the copypasta gods are punishing me19:47
openstackgerritStephanie Miller proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Upgrade wildfly puppet module  https://review.openstack.org/17179019:47
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jeblaircinerama: well, i mean, i don't think we've ever had a bikeshed flamewar about tabs in commit message... you're blazing a trail!  :)19:48
cineramajeblair: well, it's a quiet afternoon here...19:48
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mordredjeblair, yolanda: how do we add types to tasks?19:49
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mordredjeblair: like, if we're going to have a smart task manager in nodepool that splits tasks based on type - where does the type come from?19:50
jeblairmordred, yolanda: i'm imagining submittask does an 'isinstance(task, CreateServerTask)'19:50
openstackgerritStephanie Miller proposed openstack-infra/puppet-zanata: Upgrade wildfly puppet module  https://review.openstack.org/17179119:50
mtreinishjeblair: we totally should add a hacking rule to enforce only tabs no spaces in commit messages :)19:50
pleia2cinerama: ooh, did you test this latest version of the module? they did a big refactoring a couple weeks ago for version 0.2.0 and I haven't had a chance to give the new one a spin19:50
jeblairmordred: this probably presupposes that tasks become part of the shade public api19:51
cineramapleia2: i tested it in the sense that i got a working install :)19:51
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jeblairmordred: so then nodepool would do 'isinstance(task, shade.CreateServerTask)'19:51
pleia2cinerama: ok, great :)19:51
mordredjeblair: yah - that was my concern - I'm fine with that overall, but we should think about it and stuff to make sure we like the names and whatnot19:51
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jeblaircinerama: it looks like https://review.openstack.org/171791 changes from https to http, is that intentional19:51
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mordredor something19:51
jeblaircinerama: ?19:52
cineramapleia2: there may be subtleties19:52
cineramajeblair: i literally just updated the commit message to explain that19:52
jeblaircinerama: ha19:52
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mordredjeblair: any idea how granular we need to be? like, would it make sense to make 3 or 4 abstract base types that we can have nodepool look for?19:53
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jeblaircinerama: do you know why it's unhappy with the certs?19:53
mordredjeblair: like "ListTask" or "ExpensiveTask" or "PolkaDottedTask"19:53
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jeblaircinerama: (maybe puppet-wildfly should manage a special cert store just to download that?)19:54
jeblairmordred: the problem is that there should be no expensive tasks -- there are tasks which are expensive in current hpcloud due to hpcloud bugs19:54
jeblairmordred: and i don't think we want to bake "HPCloud1.1SlowTask" into the api19:54
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mordredjeblair: fair19:55
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add check-tempest-dsvm-f21 to experimental queue for openstack/nova  https://review.openstack.org/17179519:55
jeblairmordred: so honestly, we (and nodepool) need to have pretty low-level knowledge to implement this19:55
mordredyah. makes sense19:55
cineramajeblair, i did not poke at it too rigourously but "no certificate subject alternative name matches requested host name"19:55
mordredthen I think exposing the tasks as part of the API is fine19:56
jeblairmordred: maybe the best approach is to make the tasks semi-public?  i mean, i'm okay if nodepool has to change to keep up with changes in shade tasks19:56
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jeblairmordred: maybe it should be private and nodepool should just violate the layer separation? :)19:57
mordredjeblair: I believe that it's ok to violate your own layers19:57
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jeblairmordred: as long as shade+nodepool are buddies19:57
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mordredjeblair: I think the C++ term is "friends"19:57
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jeblairmordred: it should be 'buddies' in rust19:58
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mordredjeblair: I think there are traits that buddies and friends and aquantainces all share that might be domain specific and have different implementations depending on the data19:59
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jeblaircinerama: i wonder if the jboss folks need a new certificate that uses the san field?20:04
dougwighi infra.  meetbot seems hosed in #openstack-meeting-alt20:04
fungidougwig: looking20:04
jeblairpleia2, cinerama: maybe we can poke the redhat folks and suggest they look into that?20:04
pleia2jeblair, cinerama - yeah, I'll drop an email to carlos now20:04
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cineramajeblair: the cert is basically for fungible-random-server.akamai.com20:05
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fungidougwig: it looks like meetbot may be seeing some lag on the irc server it's connecting through20:05
dougwigfungi: ok, thanks.20:05
cineramaanyway i think for the moment my approach is sound as it might take A While for them to fix it and we're not gaining much if we're doing --no-check-certificate in the current wildfly module that "works" with https20:06
fungidougwig: nothing wrong with the bot that i can find, just possibly issues with one or more freenode servers20:06
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jeblaircinerama: what wget version are we using?20:07
jeblaircinerama, pleia2: apparently support for SNI was added to wget in 1.1420:07
openstackgerritClint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed openstack-infra/shade: Refactor caching to allow per-method invalidate  https://review.openstack.org/17145620:08
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anteayatristanC: his or her20:09
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pleia2I tried with wget 1.15 (on ubuntu 14.10)20:09
pleia2ah, carlos is on vacation through apr 2620:10
fungipopping out for a very late lunch, back soon20:10
jeblairfungi: enjoy tea20:11
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Don't run aiopcpu on stable branches  https://review.openstack.org/16992020:11
cinerama1.15 on both i tried20:11
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jeblairso maybe something actually broken20:11
mtreinishpleia2: I have 1.16.3 and I get the cert error too20:11
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anteayatristanC: 27 candidates only one woman so far, we don't want to discourage folks from considering themselves as ptl material20:15
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asselin_is this test broken? gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-python-cinderclient-juno https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167036/20:17
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tristanCanteaya: my bad, this was not intentional20:19
anteayatristanC: I know20:20
anteayattx makes the same mistake20:20
anteayait is a French pronoun thing20:20
anteayatristanC: just wanted to ensure we had awareness, thanks for understanding20:20
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anteayabtw the French really know how to pour a glass of wine20:21
anteayait is an art20:21
* anteaya loves Montreal20:21
pleia2anteaya: ooh, at pycon?20:21
asselin_anteaya, I'm from Montreal. great city :)20:21
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anteayapleia2: yes20:22
anteayaasselin_: are you, I didn't know that20:22
anteayaasselin_: and yes, 'tis20:22
anteayalove the churches20:22
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anteayayou can't walk a block without being able to view a church20:23
anteayaso beautiful20:23
asselin_anteaya, born there & went to undergrad there (mcgill)20:24
anteayanice!20:24
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anteayaI went to Kingston, similar architechture20:24
anteayaall that limestone20:24
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pleia2cinerama: woo, upstream puppet-wildfly commit \o/20:25
pleia2lunch time20:25
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cineramapleia2: well, a pull req anyway20:26
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anteayacinerama: congratulations20:27
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Log heat-coe-templates to the openstack-containers channel  https://review.openstack.org/17180720:30
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: DO NOT MERGE  https://review.openstack.org/17180920:31
openstackgerritHunter Haugen proposed openstack-infra/puppet-gerrit: Update license copyright line  https://review.openstack.org/17181120:31
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rcarrillocruzpleia2: thx for approving the puppetmaster change20:43
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SpamapShrm.. my local flake8 is confused and not telling me when I have pep8 troubles20:47
shashankhegdeHi sdague, I have submitted a patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171814/) to clone the requirements repository before setting up the database20:50
shashankhegdeCould you please take a look?20:50
sdagueshashankhegde: ok, there is a parallel one that's gotten approved as it was breaking other folks as well20:50
shashankhegdeOh20:51
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pleia2rcarrillocruz: sure thing :)20:52
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openstackgerritClint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add tests for caching  https://review.openstack.org/17179820:53
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zxiiroin JJB how do I escape ${variable}  in my bash script? JJB throws exception when I try to upload a script that has that20:55
clarkbzxiiro: double up the {}s so it becomes ${{variable}}20:56
zxiiroclarkb: works, thanks!20:56
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asselin_zxiiro, that's only for jjb templates. For non-templates, you stick to single {20:57
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zxiiroasselin_: thanks, good to know20:57
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: DO NOT MERGE testing overlay network options  https://review.openstack.org/17171420:58
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openstackgerritJaime Flynn proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: added support for NodeLabel parameter in trigger-builds  https://review.openstack.org/17181821:02
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vlazaguys: thanks for figuring it out21:06
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fungivlaza: what did the guys and/or girls in here figure out?21:27
vlazafungi: JJB how do I escape ${variable} my bash script for templates and non-templates21:28
fungioh, yes that's an important safety tip21:28
fungii trip over it semi-regularly21:28
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SpamapSmordred: I have some questions about shade.openstack_cloud ..21:39
SpamapSmordred: notably, wondering why it doesn't take a config parameter, the way openstack_clouds does21:39
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sigmavirus24So, who is going to/already at PyCon this weekend?21:44
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fungipleia2: did you also get a bounce from sean flanigan's e-mail address?21:47
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fungipleia2: oho, looks like carlos's vacation responder is configured to suggest the wrong e-mail address for sean21:48
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fungipleia2: i bet it's supposed to be sflaniga not slfaniga21:48
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fungisigmavirus24: a bunch of infra people are but i don't know the full list. at a minimum jeblair and anteaya are there21:51
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sigmavirus24Cool21:52
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fungiand they probably know a more complete list than i do, given that i didn't go (hopefully next year i'll get my act together)21:52
sigmavirus24fungi: are you going to the summit in May?21:53
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fungisigmavirus24: yeah, they don't let me miss that21:56
fungisigmavirus24: that and oscon are next on my travel agenda21:56
clarkbI think mordred is there too21:57
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* clarkb is currently keeping travel down21:57
fungisame here, though probably not for the same reasons. ;) i'm just not a huge fan of travelling so i try to keep it to no more than half a dozen conferences a year21:58
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sigmavirus24fungi: same here21:59
clarkbdoctors appointment on friday again :/ then another monday iirc21:59
sigmavirus24I made the poor life decision of submitting a talk this year though, and once they accepted it, I didn't have much choice21:59
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clarkbalso pycon will be local the next two years so kinda easy to skip this year and just wait for it to come to me22:02
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fungimontreal would have been closer for me than the west coast, but whatevs. a plane flight is a plane flight22:03
fungiairports are my problem, airplanes much less so22:03
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fungisince i already needed to be in portland for oscon i figured this was the year to give a talk there and get it out of the way. next year i can put in something for pycon or linuxconf or lisa or fosdem or...22:05
clarkbfungi: is it all things open that is localish for you?22:06
fungiyep. thinmking i'll actually give a talk there since it's not too far and i get a couple days downtime between that and tokyo22:07
clarkbmtreinish: mestery we really should look into making https://jenkins05.openstack.org/job/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-pg/2081/ that job run tempest in parallel22:08
fungithough the thing that pleia2's doing in columbia sc sounds cool and is relatively near here. wish i'd realized it exists22:08
clarkbthe serial smoke tests take close to 2 hours22:08
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clarkbwe should see how long that specific job takes (I am goibg by memory on the 2 hours value)22:09
mesteryclarkb: Looking22:09
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zarofungi, clarkb : i ran a reindex on review.o.o data.  i see a bunch of repository not found errors.  These are probably due to renames/moves so i don't anticipate them to be problems for gerrit upgrade. Just wanted you to be aware: http://paste.openstack.org/show/20074622:13
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fungizaro: yep, i/we see those every time we run that. i've never gotten around to figuring out what we need to delete to make them go away for good22:14
fungizaro: though if you happen to know, then we can see about adding it to the next maintenance as cleanup22:14
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zarofungi: not sure, but i'm guessing the project refs are left in the 'git' folder.22:20
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pleia2fungi: yeah, should be fun, apparently it's got a lot of overlap organizer-wise with all things open22:27
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fungipleia2: awesome--i'll need to remember to put it on my agenda for next year22:27
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fungii'd just drive to that and get a hotel room for a few days22:28
* pleia2 nods22:29
fungilooks like ~6 hours in a car22:29
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fungiwhich, given that i live nearly 2 hours from the nearest airport, is not worth bothering with a flight22:30
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pleia2I'm taking a flight from CLT to columbus, which is a bit funny (1.5 hrs by car)22:31
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pleia2err colubmia22:31
pleia2tight connection too, but if I make it I get to go to the opening social, if I don't I get a later flight or just rent a car22:31
fungiyeah, they're not far apart at all. columbia's almost a charlotte suburb22:31
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openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Added bower:install to gruntfile.  https://review.openstack.org/17184922:38
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krotscheckclarkb: Oooh, pycon's in Portland next year? That's appealing.22:40
clarkbkrotscheck: yup and the year after22:40
krotscheckclarkb: That's... convenient.22:40
krotscheckclarkb: Did you mention in backscroll if you'd be coming to vancouver?22:40
krotscheckclarkb: I'm currently debating something similar with Tokyo :/22:41
clarkbkrotscheck: I have a train ticket and a flight back friday night. So we will see :)22:41
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Archive ceph logs and config  https://review.openstack.org/17090022:41
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/bindep: Add codename and release platform profiles  https://review.openstack.org/15797922:42
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/bindep: Add platform support for Fedora  https://review.openstack.org/17129322:42
fungiclarkb: see if that's what you had in mind for additional testing on 15797922:42
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clarkbkrotscheck: its easier for me, its cheap to go to vancouver from here22:43
pleia2trains++22:43
* krotscheck wants a train to japan.22:43
fungii'm looking forward to catching the train from portland to vancouver22:43
fungiit'll be fun22:44
fungijust hoping usa customs doesn't make faces at me for leaving on a train and returning on a plane22:44
pleia2krotscheck: haha22:44
clarkbfungi: I am doing that too22:44
fungier, s/customs/immigration/22:44
fungicustoms could probably care less22:44
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krotscheckfungi: Oh, I don't think you'll have a problem. Getting into Canada won't be a problem, they're super chill. And what's TSA going to do on the way back, tell a citizen they can't come back?22:45
fungiheck, they won't even be checking for cuban cigars any longer22:45
clarkbfungi: actually they will22:47
clarkbfungi: its only legal to bring them back direct from cuba22:47
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fungiwhat a bunch of jerks22:47
zarofungi, clarkb, pleia2 : i've verified that upgrading from gerrit 2.8 directly to 2.10 is pretty smooth.  shall i just go ahead and upgrade review-dev.o.o to 2.10?22:47
funginot that i'm into cigars anyway, but still22:47
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fungizaro: i say go for it22:48
pleia2zaro: sounds good to me22:48
fungizaro: also what's the story with 2.11? i saw they already had a stable-2.11 branch upstream22:48
zarofungi: looks like they are close but blocked on a few issues still22:48
fungiahh, okay22:48
zaroin any case, 2.11 doesn't support old screen.22:49
fungigot it. no go for us for now22:49
krotscheckclarkb: In work related news, that xvfb job I created works like a charm, I just had one of SB's tests pass22:49
clarkbkrotscheck: awesome22:49
fungithough i'm about to the point where losing the old review screen doesn't matter to me anyway, thanks to gertty22:49
krotscheckNo more crazy scripts!22:50
krotscheckwoo!22:50
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krotscheckJust pure, unadulterated Node.js.22:50
* krotscheck is expecting to get lynched for bringing node into OpenStack.22:50
* krotscheck will die happy22:50
fungikrotscheck: it still seems strange to me to run x with a virtual framebuffer in a script. but neat that it works, nonetheless22:51
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clarkbfungi: you can even take screenshots22:52
krotscheckfungi: it's kindof neat22:52
fungiwacky22:52
fungi"screen"shots22:52
krotscheckThere was once an entire testing system based around pixel-comparing screenshots of an app to a tested app.22:52
krotscheckIt was a testing system designed by designers who wanted pixel-perfect adherence to their designs.22:53
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pleia2did it work?22:53
pleia2not sure whether to be impressed or afraid :)22:53
fungisounds like the opening to a fairy tale22:53
krotscheckpleia2: Until they tried testing it on anything other than IE, yes.22:53
SpamapSSupposedly it outperforms kvm's emulated cirrus video.22:53
pleia2krotscheck: hah22:53
krotscheckpleia2: anything other than "Browser they took the screenshots with".22:53
SpamapSPlus having it all run w/o root is nice.22:54
pleia2yeah, I can see that22:54
fungiand then they were eaten by a dragon, the end22:54
clarkbso funny story about how suse tests their distros22:54
krotscheckTurns out browsers have slightly different layout and flow rules, and some browsers do fun partial-pixel interpolation things.22:54
clarkbthey have basically selenium for desktops22:54
clarkband have fuzzy image matching test assertions22:54
SpamapSIIRC Ubuntu does that too22:54
krotschecknot to mention antialiased fonts.22:54
clarkbalso I am probably going to reinstall tumbleweed this weekend22:55
clarkbmust support CI driven rolling distros22:55
openstackgerritClint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed openstack-infra/shade: Allow passing config into shade.openstack_cloud  https://review.openstack.org/17185722:55
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* krotscheck is pondering putting an announcement out to openstack-dev letting people know that npm-based builds are now available.22:58
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krotscheck....maybe polish the documentation a bit more first so it's easier to get started.22:58
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: DO NOT MERGE testing overlay network options  https://review.openstack.org/17171423:05
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openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Update query 1311066 for new warning  https://review.openstack.org/17186923:15
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-graphite: Ensure the 'headers' module is enabled  https://review.openstack.org/17058223:17
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clarkbfungi: yup 157979 looks good.23:21
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clarkbok I think we made good progress on neutron dvr testing today. I completely neglected reviews though :(23:26
fungiit happens23:26
clarkbbut we seem to have a general plan and know what is next23:26
clarkbbasically need a bit of help in devstack that armax is working on and hopefully that makes the test runs reliable23:26
* clarkb goes to update comments on swami's change to communicate all that we have learned23:26
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greghaynesclarkb: yes, join us in the tumbleweeds23:27
clarkbgreghaynes: well my VM hasn't died yet so I think its stable enough23:27
clarkbI say as I reboot it to pick up bootloader and other updates23:27
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openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Run Gerrit unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/17187623:28
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morganfainbergso silly question23:36
morganfainbergwith keystonemiddleware being capped at <1.0.0 and <1.4.023:36
morganfainbergand the current release being 1.5.023:36
morganfainberghttp://logs.openstack.org/38/166438/2/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-keystonemiddleware-juno/d298ed7/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-04-08_22_45_39_71223:36
morganfainberghow do I resolve the juno tempest run?23:36
morganfainbergmtreinish, jogo, sdague, ^ cc23:37
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jogomtreinish: don't run srs keystonemiddleware on juno23:38
jogoerr morganfainberg23:38
morganfainbergjogo, ok thats fine, wanted to check before proposing removal of that job.23:38
clarkbjogo: no thats not right either23:38
clarkbjogo: morganfainberg you run stable/juno keystonemiddleware src job against stable/juno everything else23:38
jogomorganfainberg: since you are not trying to promise compatibility with juno for trunk keystonemiddleware23:38
morganfainbergjogo, well... i'd like to but i realize that is futile23:39
jogoclarkb: that assumes keystonemiddleware has a stable/juno branch23:39
clarkbjogo: I thought everything was supposed to get one23:39
clarkbisn't there a recent thread on ^23:39
jogoclarkb: for Kilo yeah23:39
morganfainbergisn't client* (and middleware in this case) supposed to have a stable br..23:39
morganfainbergah23:39
morganfainbergjust not juno23:39
clarkbjogo: we should also do it for juno and icehouse23:39
clarkbotherwise none of the stuff you want to do with kilo is going to be simpler23:39
clarkbinstead you will special case kilo everywhere and so on23:40
jogoclarkb: if you want to retroactively create them awesome!23:40
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clarkbI don't want to, thats the responsibility of the release teams for those projects23:40
jogoclarkb: well it will be less special cased when we hit M23:40
clarkbI can help them for sure23:40
clarkbjogo: lets not wait a year to do this properly23:40
morganfainbergso. the question i have is: am I creating a stable branch here or not. /me doesn't care which way this goes.23:40
jogoclarkb: as in, I don't think the effort of retroactively creating all those stable branches is worth it23:41
clarkbjogo: its zero effort23:41
clarkbjogo: make new branch called stable/juno based on tag that stab juno is pinned under23:41
clarkbdone23:41
jogoif you think so I am all for creating stable branches for all the things23:41
jogoclarkb: I am worried the devil is in the details (don't know what devil it will be but figured there is one)23:41
pleia2the arm patches from linaro just made my day <323:42
jogopleia2: link?23:42
jogosounds fun23:42
pleia2https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170776/2 is one of them23:42
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clarkbmorganfainberg: so it depends on who you ask :) at the very least don't remove that job just prevent it from running against stable/juno and stable/icehouse23:42
morganfainbergjogo, i'm happy for middleware to be the guinea pig23:42
clarkbmorganfainberg: this opens you up to breaking those stable branches with changes to middleware23:42
clarkbmorganfainberg: if you do what I suggest then you should be well covered and avoid those problems23:43
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jogoclarkb: as it is stable branches have capped kmiddleware23:43
clarkbpleia2: hrm that seems like a bug in ubuntu but ok23:43
jogoso trunk kmiddleware vs stable/juno doesn't make sense23:43
clarkbjogo: yes but that doesn't mean middlewhare won't backport a security patch that breaks the world23:43
clarkbjogo: yes it does23:43
morganfainbergjogo, i am all for saying 1.4.x release of KSM *is* juno and receives appropriate treatment23:43
clarkbjogo: trunk is for master stable/juno is for being under the pin for juno23:44
jogopleia2: oh fun23:44
morganfainbergclarkb, today we never backport security patches for KSM23:44
clarkbmorganfainberg: yes exactly23:44
morganfainbergclarkb, or ksc23:44
clarkbmorganfainberg: you will have to23:44
morganfainbergclarkb, i'm all for it!23:44
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clarkbmorganfainberg: with those pins in requirements its your only option (assuming the pin is there because nevermind backward compatibility)23:44
morganfainbergclarkb, so... what dark magic must i invoke to get said branch created properly23:44
pleia2clarkb: yeah, the other-architectures stuff for ubuntu can be a bit odd because they don't always make things backwards compatible package-wise, so you end up with missing "dummy" packages23:45
jogoclarkb morganfainberg: FWIW I think creating stable branches for juno and kilo is a good idea23:45
pleia2clarkb: but not much we can do about it, so workaround23:45
jogobut  I think we should bounce this off ttx first (maybe via that ML thread?)23:45
clarkbpleia2: ya23:45
pleia2I'm just happy to see these kinds of patches going in, seeing this stuff on other arches are fun23:45
clarkbmorganfainberg: let me show you, give me a minute23:45
pleia2s/are/is23:45
pleia2grammar++23:45
morganfainbergjogo, fwiw, this *is* blocking the release for ksm that coincides with kilo23:45
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morganfainbergjogo, so as long as ML thread isn't going to be a long drawn out ... uh you know what i mean, happy to have it go any which-way.23:46
clarkbmorganfainberg: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/openstack/keystonemiddleware,branches you go there and add a branch called stable/juno with an initial revision of whatever the newest tag that is valid for juno according to openstack/requirements is23:46
jogomorganfainberg: uhhhh, I just want to make sure everyone is on the same page on the way out of this one23:46
morganfainbergjogo, yep. i just want to be sure we're not going to get a bikeshed icky thread started on this front.23:46
morganfainbergclarkb, i do not have said magic access.23:47
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clarkbmorganfainberg: ok, its likely we need an openstack release manager to do it. So probably best to run it by ttx and make sure my crazy ideas don't ruin any of his plans23:48
jogojust so I am clear what is the configuration of /gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-keystonemiddleware-juno23:48
jogosrc-kystonemiddleware on juno tempest-dsvm-neutron?23:48
morganfainbergclarkb, silly question on https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/openstack/keystonemiddleware,access that will just get reverted to whatever we have in the .acl files right? because gerrit seems to want to let me edit those values *scary*23:49
clarkbjogo: its use juno, if not juno then use master23:49
jogofor keystonemiddleware source that is?23:49
clarkbmorganfainberg: correct, also if you update them it should propose a change that ou don't have merge perms for23:49
clarkbjogo: for all sources23:49
morganfainbergclarkb, works for me [i don't want to go and break everything right now, just was curious]23:50
clarkbmorganfainberg: if you click the edit button what new buttons pop up?23:50
clarkbmorganfainberg: do you have a "save changes" button or just "save for review"23:50
morganfainbergsave for review23:50
clarkbperfect23:51
clarkbthen it is working as expected :)23:51
morganfainbergcool.23:51
jogoclarkb: makes sense. I still don't see how dropping that job from master keymiddleware is a risk. on stable/juno we already install from releases for everythign else23:51
* morganfainberg has not admin'd gerrit in a while23:51
morganfainbergyou know since joining HP ;)23:51
clarkbjogo: dropping it from master is a risk because then you cannot test backports23:51
clarkbjogo: so the correct thing to do is add a juno branch for backports then that job will just work23:51
jogoclarkb: and we cannot do backports at all right now anyway23:52
clarkbjogo: you can, you would make a stable/juno branch23:52
clarkbjogo: but if that job doesn't run then you lose23:52
jogoclarkb: well the job would still need to move off of running source keymiddleware patches to master23:52
* morganfainberg will bug ttx tomorrow on this.23:52
morganfainbergand/or ML.23:52
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clarkbjogo: yes it will need a pin to stable/juno when that branch is created23:53
clarkbsometimes I think the simplest thing is to be better about backward compat23:53
jogoclarkb: not sure I completely follow, not sure what we 'lose' that we currently have. But since we are waiting for ttx that is a mmot point anyway23:54
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clarkbjogo: right now we know that we are broken23:55
jogoclarkb: I wonder how g-r stable/juno syncs work with this. hopefully they just work23:55
clarkbjogo: this is valuable information23:55
clarkbjogo: if you stop running the test we lose that information23:55
jogoclarkb: we know stable/juno doesn't work with master keystonemiddleware. but that isn't something we are trying to do at all anyay23:55
jogobecause keystonemiddleware>=1.0.0,<1.4.023:55
clarkbits helpful in the "we need to backport this" sense23:56
clarkbbecause it won't work against juno23:56
clarkbwe intentionally set up these jobs to catch exactly this problem23:56
clarkbnow I do not know why we are merging backward incompatible changes given that these tests were added specifically to prevent that23:56
jogoback when we were trying  to run master keystonemiddleware on stable/juno and not have it capped23:57
clarkbwe still want to do that imo if we don't have stable/juno branches23:57
jogoclarkb: because we have given up on keeping stable branches working with newer library versions23:57
clarkbbecause stable/juno branches is the only way to supoort stable juno in that model23:58
clarkbits an either or, not a halfway thing23:58
clarkbeither you have a stable branch for stable releases or you have a backwards compatible master23:58
clarkbin either case you want this test23:58
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jogoanyway I was saying go half way for now to unblock this so its not a pressing issue. But I agree adding stable branches for juno and icehouse is a better solution23:59
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