Tuesday, 2014-12-02

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jeblairsdague: did you make this? http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#quick-reference00:01
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jeblairsdague: zuul change aprvd; fungi: once it merges we might want to restart to pick it up00:02
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pleia2jeblair: he did, source is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/File:Code_review.svg00:03
openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Creates a directory for non-indexed content  https://review.openstack.org/13819500:03
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jeblairpleia2: cool thanks00:04
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jeblairheh, firefox's svg rendering is not quite right (some arrows point the wrong way)00:04
anteayaha ha ha00:05
pleia2chrome doesn't do much better, I just download it and open with inkscape, don't bother looking at it in the browser00:05
clarkbjeblair: appears to happen in chromium too00:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/zuul: Fix KeyError: 'sortKey'  https://review.openstack.org/13809900:05
jeblairsdague, fungi: ^00:05
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Fill out running jobs with zuul section  https://review.openstack.org/13820900:05
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Re-approval of change as alternative to recheck  https://review.openstack.org/13820400:17
openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Adds instructions for new developers to use sandbox  https://review.openstack.org/10495100:17
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openstackgerritStefano Maffulli proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Test to include slides as output for the manual  https://review.openstack.org/13821000:24
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Fill out running jobs with zuul section  https://review.openstack.org/13820900:33
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Test to include slides as output for the manual  https://review.openstack.org/13821000:40
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openstackgerritStefano Maffulli proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Test to include slides as output for the manual  https://review.openstack.org/13821001:43
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openstackgerritDolph Mathews proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: add script to safely update feature branches  https://review.openstack.org/12671901:45
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openstackgerritWayne Warren proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Reorganize tests/cmd  https://review.openstack.org/13405501:54
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fungijeblair: i'm cool with restarting zuul, though there's a pretty steady churn of activity for the moment02:15
fungii can check back in a while and see if it's let up some02:15
jamielennoxanyone know if you can do a gerrit search for outdated reviews? does it set a label or something?02:16
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openstackgerritWayne Warren proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add plugins_info to module registry object.  https://review.openstack.org/13292702:34
openstackgerritWayne Warren proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Reorganize tests/cmd  https://review.openstack.org/13405502:34
openstackgerritWayne Warren proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for hipchat notifier 0.1.8  https://review.openstack.org/13584302:34
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openstackgerritWayne Warren proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Update 'timeout' wrapper module  https://review.openstack.org/12946702:34
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fungijamielennox: you can search on time ranges, if that's what you're looking for03:19
fungijamielennox: see the "age" term at https://review.openstack.org/Documentation/user-search.html#_search_operators03:20
jamielennoxfungi: i've got a couple of reviews with a +2 on them that i didn't realize were blocked because they were dependant on an outdated review03:20
jamielennoxi couldn't find anything in gerrit docs to figure out if i could search for those cases03:20
fungijamielennox: depends on what you mean by outdated i guess (the parent change has moved on and the child change wasn't rebased onto it?)03:21
jamielennoxfungi: exactly03:21
fungii don't know of a search term for that specifically, no. sorry!03:21
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jamielennoxfungi: yea, i couldn't find anything - thanks for the help03:22
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fungijamielennox: there are probably ways you could dig it out of the api with multiple dependent calls and some parsing, but that's more work than it's likely worth03:24
pradhan_Hi, I am trying to understand thirdparty CI testing,Could anyone please help me on few queries like where these third party systems are hosted? How the tests are triggered on thirdparty systems?03:25
jamielennoxfungi: yea, i was hoping for something i could bookmark - that's ok, just need to check on older reviews more03:25
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Check env-vars is a dictionary  https://review.openstack.org/13825004:30
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Muraddo anybody have an idea how to do post build execution in jenkins job builder, or how to force executing builder after the job fails ?06:54
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waynrMurad: I think this is what you07:01
waynrre asking for http://ci.openstack.org/jenkins-job-builder/publishers.html#publishers.trigger-parameterized-builds07:01
MuradThanks Wayn, so I can understand that there is no way to do this in same job without triggering another one?07:02
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waynrhmm i might misunderstand what you are asking07:04
waynrdo you want to trigger another job as a build step of the current job?07:05
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MuradI just need to execute something (builder, or shell code) whether the job fails or succeeed07:06
waynrwell a job can have multiple builders07:06
waynrthe "builders" key on a job has as its value a list of buildes which can be any valid type of builder07:07
Muradyes but if a builder failed, execution will not complete07:07
waynrjust ensure your first builder always returns success07:08
waynrfor instance if the first builder is a shell script ensure that the last thing it does is return 007:08
waynrer, exit 007:08
Muradhmmm, can I tell the next builder that previous one failed but overriden by exit 0 ?07:09
waynrif the first builder is a trigger of another job configure it to not cause the current job to fail if it fails07:09
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waynryou can write to a parameters file and pass the parameters from that file to another job executed as a build step using http://ci.openstack.org/jenkins-job-builder/builders.html#builders.trigger-builds07:11
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Core revier: Add +-2, approval  https://review.openstack.org/13817707:12
waynrit sounds like you might want some kind of conditional job execution07:12
MuradThank you very much Wayn,07:14
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Muradyour answers was very helpfull07:14
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Add WIP section to core.rst  https://review.openstack.org/13816307:15
waynrglad to hear it07:15
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Add section about cross-project dependencies  https://review.openstack.org/13827207:28
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openstackgerritLakshmi N Sampath proposed openstack/requirements: Elasticsearch python client is required for interacting with Glance catalog index service search engine which utilizes elasticsearch server.  https://review.openstack.org/13827407:55
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Fix typo  https://review.openstack.org/13827507:57
openstackgerritLakshmi N Sampath proposed openstack/requirements: Add elasticsearch python client  https://review.openstack.org/13827407:57
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ttxjeblair: commented08:02
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hyakuheiIs there anyone around who can take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138066 - trying to get Ephemeral PKI added to Stackforge09:00
hyakuheiJust needs another +209:00
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AJaegerhyakuhei, I'm around but gave already my +2 ;) The other infra cores will go over the patches as time permits09:05
hyakuheiHey AJaeger yeah I appreciate you taking the time. I know everybody's busy, we're just keen to get this landed and start working on it more openly :)09:06
AJaegerhyakuhei, infra started a sprint yesterday for 48 hours, review will pick up again in 30 hours. Can it wait that long?09:07
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hyakuheiIt can but I did promise folks they could start playing with it this week and there's a lag to get the other stuff, gerrit groups, bots etc working09:14
hyakuheiI was hoping because it's a super simply change someone could take a quick poke but if it must wait then it must wait :)09:14
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AJaegerhyakuhei, let's see whether SergeyLukjanov, sdague or fungi can review and approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13806609:16
hyakuheiThat would be awesome!09:17
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openstackgerritSergey Lukjanov proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Fix pypi mirror hosts list  https://review.openstack.org/13829109:31
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openstackgerritSergey Lukjanov proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Fix bandersnatch config after using region local mirrors  https://review.openstack.org/13829309:34
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openstackgerritSergey Lukjanov proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Fix pypi mirror hosts list  https://review.openstack.org/13829109:39
openstackgerritSergey Lukjanov proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Fix bandersnatch config after using region local mirrors  https://review.openstack.org/13829309:39
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Attempting to add Anchor - the ephemeral PKI system to stackforge.  https://review.openstack.org/13806609:55
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hyakuheiThanks guys!09:58
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: hide events filter if not logged in  https://review.openstack.org/13807710:02
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openstackgerritSergey Lukjanov proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add missed pypi mirror hosts to cacti  https://review.openstack.org/13830710:15
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jogoheyongli: ping10:19
jogoheyongli: having some PCI tests running would be great10:20
jogoheyongli: once you have a few tests working, we should talk about where it makes the most sense for those tests to live10:21
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openstackgerritFlavio Percoco proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make zaqarclient's functional gate voting  https://review.openstack.org/13830910:28
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openstackgerritAlexander Ignatov proposed openstack-infra/reviewstats: Add mimccune and sreshetniak to sahara-core  https://review.openstack.org/13831811:09
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/reviewstats: Add mimccune and sreshetniak to sahara-core  https://review.openstack.org/13831811:42
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openstackgerritIvan Udovichenko proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Remove hardcoded variables from openstack_project module (Jenkins dev)  https://review.openstack.org/13710212:00
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openstackgerritIvan Udovichenko proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Remove hardcoded variables from openstack_project module (Jenkins dev)  https://review.openstack.org/13710212:02
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openstackgerritTim Kelsey proposed openstack/requirements: Adding M2Crypto, its needed by the Anchor project in stackforge.  https://review.openstack.org/13834312:44
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openstackgerritIvan Udovichenko proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Remove hardcoded variables from openstack_project module (Jenkins)  https://review.openstack.org/13710012:53
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zhiyanHi AJaeger! quick ask: how can I verify my change on project-config is proper before i push it up for your reivew?12:55
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Add Project Creator's Guide section  https://review.openstack.org/13809412:56
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AJaegerzhiyan, you can run tox locally. Just execute all tox targets, or run simply "tox"13:12
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openstackgerritSergey Lukjanov proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add missed apache wsgi module to graphite  https://review.openstack.org/13836413:35
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anteayajogo: thank you13:54
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anteayajogo: I don't know if you know but heyongli is the intel person charged with setting up nfv testing13:54
openstackgerritIvan Udovichenko proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Remove hardcoded variables from openstack_project module (groups_dev)  https://review.openstack.org/13371413:55
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openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed openstack-infra/python-storyboardclient: Setting up base classes  https://review.openstack.org/13809213:56
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anteayajogo: so I am grateful for your help13:59
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nfedotovHello all! Does somebody know what is going to happen with latest "account requests" in Third-party-requests mailing list? There is review "Third-party self service account creation - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137240".14:05
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Pass project_config_repo from single_use_slave  https://review.openstack.org/13307714:06
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openstackgerritDmitry Teselkin proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Whitelist for gerrit events  https://review.openstack.org/13763414:08
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nfedotovI mean. Will somebody behind the  Third-party-requests create accounts or we should wait until the review is merged?14:10
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openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed openstack-infra/python-storyboardclient: Initial Cookiecutter Commit.  https://review.openstack.org/13809014:15
funginfedotov: thanks for the reminder--i need to send a heads up to the third-party-announce mailing list about coming changes and apologizing that we're behind on the pending requests (which are about to become unnecessary hopefully some time this week)14:15
nfedotovfungi:no problem. Thank you too!14:16
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/nodepool: Set useful PATH before starting scripts  https://review.openstack.org/13192114:34
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dtantsurHey Infra! Could someone please review/approve small change to gerritbot? https://review.openstack.org/13713614:47
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mtreinishfungi: did you get an answer to your e-r question from yesterday?14:55
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mtreinishyou shouldn't have to change any e-r code, just the update queries if you're changing any bug numbers14:56
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fungimtreinish: oh, it doesn't look for them to be associated with a particular project? even easier14:57
mtreinishfungi: yeah it does the lookup by bug number. I think there might be a check if it's part of a project in the openstack group, or that could have just been the functional test lemme double check14:58
sdagueit's not a code check14:58
sdagueit might be a tests check14:58
sdaguewe assume people are vaguely sane14:59
mtreinishsdague: ok, then yeah I put that in the functional query test then14:59
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mtreinishI remember writing the code to do that lookup and figuring out how weird it was to do in launchpadlib14:59
KiallHeya.. Any chance I can get a second review against? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137506/ - Adding a new gate job to the  Designate repo, has a single +2 already.. Thanks :)15:00
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sdaguefungi: so, we could probably add storyboard support in if you like.15:00
mtreinishsdague: there's no python api15:00
fungisdague: for the moment, it's additional complication since a lot of those bugs turn into bugs against various integrated projects still tracked in lp15:01
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sdaguefungi: gotcha, ok15:02
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sdagueis there a plan for a storyboard python client coming?15:02
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openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix spelling of OpenStack in the project descriptions of Gerrit  https://review.openstack.org/13838815:04
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Retrieve task statuses from the backend  https://review.openstack.org/13838915:07
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openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed openstack-infra/python-storyboardclient: Addind apiclient from oslo incubator  https://review.openstack.org/13809115:19
openstackgerritThomas Goirand proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Packagers vs package maintainers  https://review.openstack.org/13839415:19
openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed openstack-infra/python-storyboardclient: Setting up base classes  https://review.openstack.org/13809215:19
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Fix order of lines in ACL example  https://review.openstack.org/13839515:19
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openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed openstack-infra/python-storyboardclient: Addind apiclient from oslo incubator  https://review.openstack.org/13809115:27
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openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed openstack-infra/python-storyboardclient: Setting up base classes  https://review.openstack.org/13809215:32
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openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed openstack-infra/python-storyboardclient: Initial Cookiecutter Commit.  https://review.openstack.org/13809015:34
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openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed openstack-infra/python-storyboardclient: Addind apiclient from oslo incubator  https://review.openstack.org/13809115:35
openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed openstack-infra/python-storyboardclient: Setting up base classes  https://review.openstack.org/13809215:35
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tchaypo*reads alternate meeting time thread*15:41
tchaypo*gets very confused*15:41
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tchaypo*realises it’s the infra alternate meeting time thread which started a few hours before the tripleo alternate meeting time thread*15:41
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derekhHmm, lo looks like the weekly meeting will be in Alaska,15:43
derekhdoodle changed "IRC" to a link to google maps, which is an airport in Alaska15:44
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anteayatchaypo: what infra alternate meeting time?15:48
anteayaderekh: awesome, how very helpful15:49
anteayatchaypo: the third-party additional meeting thread?15:49
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/requirements: Update to latest oslo libraries (utils/i18n/vmware)  https://review.openstack.org/13840715:49
anteayayeah, the timing of having two choose meeting time threads is confusing15:49
tchaypoYes, that one.15:50
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anteayawhich is why I work as hard as I can to only have one type of election discussion happening on the mailing list at a time15:50
tchaypoSorry, I think I stopped reading around “additional meeting” so the [openstack-infra] stuck in my mind15:50
anteayahaving two different kinds of election on the mailing list at the same time was bound to confuse people15:50
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anteayatchaypo: yeah, well it did cc to infra so I can understand the thought process15:51
tchaypoI wish I’d sent my email last week when this came up, instead of dithering for days… or that I’d seen yours before I sent mine15:51
anteayano dithering allowed15:51
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anteayaand yeah, didn't mean to step on your brain space here15:51
anteayasorry about that15:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/infra-manual: Fix typo  https://review.openstack.org/13827515:54
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openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Adds instructions for new developers to use sandbox  https://review.openstack.org/10495115:59
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nibalizerwe're sprinting today yes?16:01
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fungiall day! yesterday too16:01
fungisee /topic16:01
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ttxfungi: what's the appropriate way to request a repo rename ?16:03
nibalizerfungi: yea i got busy yesterday, couldn't really help16:03
openstackgerritDmitry Teselkin proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Whitelist for gerrit events  https://review.openstack.org/13763416:03
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openstackgerritDmitry Teselkin proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Whitelist for gerrit events  https://review.openstack.org/13763416:04
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fungittx: we add it to the infra team weekly meeting agenda16:05
fungittx: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Upcoming_Project_Renames16:05
ttxok will do (openstack-infra/gerrit-powered-agenda -> openstack-infra/yaml2ical)16:05
fungittx: we have a couple we're discussing today in the meeting i think16:05
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anteayattx and offer a patch to project-config with the rename, or delegate (I can do that if you wish)16:07
ttxanteaya: that would be great if you could post it, yes. Probably won't have time to look into it before meeting today, so will miss the boat16:08
ttxanteaya: I added a placeholder to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Upcoming_Project_Renames16:09
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anteayattx okay so yaml2ical is your desired name16:11
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ttxyes, that's what the module has been renamed to16:11
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anteayait has already been renamed?16:11
ttx(nothing gerrit-specific about it, and we need it pypi-compliant)16:11
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ttxthe module in the repo was renamed yes16:11
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ttxwas previously called 'arbiter'16:12
anteayaah okay got it16:12
ttx(which did not match repo name either :)16:12
ttxbut now we need it on pypi to use it in jobs16:12
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ttxsimpler if every name is aligned16:13
anteayait is simplier16:13
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ttxbah, call ended early, so I can post it myself after all16:20
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anteayaawesome, then I can review16:22
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openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Adds instructions for new developers to use sandbox  https://review.openstack.org/10495116:27
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Document the management of feature branches  https://review.openstack.org/13820016:28
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openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Rename gerrit-powered-agenda to yaml2ical  https://review.openstack.org/13843216:31
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Re-approval of change as alternative to recheck  https://review.openstack.org/13820416:32
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Fill out running jobs with zuul section  https://review.openstack.org/13820916:35
openstackgerritAntoine Musso proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Cloner: set zuul_branch on ref-update events  https://review.openstack.org/13843316:35
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matttanyone able to help register a new irc channel?16:35
openstackgerritAntoine Musso proposed openstack-infra/zuul: cloner: support for ref-updated parameters  https://review.openstack.org/13767516:36
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anteayamattt: you register the channel yourself and then give infra access if you want logging and so on: http://ci.openstack.org/irc.html#access16:40
matttanteaya: issue we're having is someone is sitting in the channel, but the channel itself is unregistered16:41
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matttanteaya: and we're unable to register it with them in the channel16:41
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jrollmattt: if they won't hand over ops, you'll likely need to grab freenode staff in #freenode16:41
sigmavirus24anteaya: and that person idles in #openstack-dev too16:41
dteselkinI've created a patchset to implement whitelist filtering in zuul, and fixed tests. Could someone take a look please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13763416:41
sigmavirus24jroll: tried that already too heh16:41
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sigmavirus24stupid. not lame.16:42
anteayamattt: that is a freenode issue then16:42
anteayawe have no ability to help you there16:42
anteayayou need to talk to freenode folks and appeal to them16:43
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Rename gerrit-powered-agenda to yaml2ical  https://review.openstack.org/13843216:43
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anteayattx any thoughts on the publish to pypi job?16:44
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ttxanteaya: mentioned in the commit message that it would come in a subsequent change16:44
anteayaI should read that16:45
anteayayou did so16:45
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anteayaokay I have +2 and set as wip16:46
anteayacan you add the url to the meeting agenda?16:46
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Document new third party self service accounts  https://review.openstack.org/13724016:46
anteayawe can't merge the patch until the rename window16:46
matttanteaya: we asked in #freenode, and they suggested we "contact the openstack group contact and get back to them.", we assumed that was someone in here16:46
clarkbfungi: ^ addressed16:46
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anteayamattt: if infra has the ability to remove people from freenode channels so that you can register the channel, I don't know about that ability16:49
clarkbanteaya: I think we are being asked to ask freenode to do the removal16:49
matttanteaya: i imagine they want someone to validate our reasonings for taking over the channel16:49
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fungithanks clarkb!16:49
clarkbsince the channel is likely in our namespace16:49
matttclarkb: bingo16:50
clarkbdo we know what the channel is/16:50
matttclarkb: #openstack-ansible16:50
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clarkband do we know why the lurker won't jump ship?16:50
mattti've pinged them over the course of about a week, no response16:50
sigmavirus24serverascode___: seems to be in here too16:51
sigmavirus24Maybe they'll respond to a ping here16:51
mattti DMd them to be sure, but still no response16:51
mattttho to be fair the DM was only about an hour ago16:51
jeblairoh, i can help with #openstack-ansible16:51
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jeblairi'm the freenode group contact for #openstack-*16:51
Kiallclarkb: can I bug you for a review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137506/ ? New gate job for Designate, hoping to have it enabled before merging some code it'll be testing...16:52
matttjeblair: that'd be great, thank you16:52
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hughsaundersstoryboard seems to be 500ing on openid login16:52
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clarkbKiall: fungi should that job be experimental before it is non voting gating?16:53
clarkbbecause non voting gating is silly16:53
Kiallclarkb: ++, PS1 included a comment saying it'll change to voting ASAP16:53
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clarkbKiall: have you tested the job locally?16:54
Kiallclarkb: I just don't want to land it and block other reviews while we get a better sense of stability for it16:54
anteayaserverascode___: why wouldn't you respond to their queries curtis?16:54
KiallYep, It should be fine.. But a few days of running ingate would make me comfortable :)16:54
clarkbKiall: I guess I am just concerned that we are skipping the step of make it work before running it a lot. I am fine with that if you have made it work locally16:55
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fungiKiall: oh, i missed that somehow but i agree with clarkb... if you want to see how stable it is you can do that with a check-only job. you'll need to edit layout.yaml to set it to voting anyway so can just add it to the gate pipeline at the same time16:55
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Add WIP section to core.rst  https://review.openstack.org/13816316:56
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KiallHumm - I'll make it easier and just make it voting right now .. We have enough core on to fasttrack any fixes for gate blockers ;)16:56
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fungiKiall: that's the spirit16:57
Kiall(and we're not in the integrated gate, so only hurts us)16:57
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fungiKiall: it's an effective way to prioritize development effort too ;)16:57
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openstackgerritKiall Mac Innes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add Designate BIND9 DSVM Job  https://review.openstack.org/13750616:57
Kiallfungi / clarkb: Done..16:58
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fungikrotscheck: !!! i'm consistently getting an internal server error authenticating to storyboard (which means hopefully i can provide some good debugging info)16:59
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fungihrm... can anybody else log into storyboard? i see other users' sessions throwing the same exception in the logs17:03
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clarkbfungi: hughsaunders indicated 500s too. I am testing with my ccount now17:03
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fungilooks like it lost contact with the trove instance about 15 minutes ago17:04
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jeblairfungi: i failed with a 50017:04
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clarkbI haven't failed yet but it doens't look happy17:04
clarkboh losing DB would do that I imagine17:04
jeblairit was pretty quick for me after return from lp17:04
krotscheckyeah, db fall down go boom.17:04
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jeblairdoes not sound like the subtle bug we were looking for :/17:05
clarkbthere it goes, I didn't get an lp redirect the first attempt17:05
jeblairtelnet <dbhost> 3306: telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused17:06
jeblairanswers pings17:06
fungii'm checking to see if rackspace has opened a ticket to let us know they're doing things17:07
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funginothing. opening one now17:08
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add Designate BIND9 DSVM Job  https://review.openstack.org/13750617:09
fungicrappity. their dashboard indicates that db instance is shut down/shutting down17:09
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fungii'm going to try to restart it17:09
fungiit switched to a restarting status17:09
jeblairif that works, i guess we should open a ticket and ask wherefore shut down db instance?17:10
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fungii'm starting that in parallel17:10
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krotscheckUrm, did that flush our data?17:14
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jeblairkrotscheck: instance is still down afaict17:14
fungii've opened rackspace ticket 141202-ord-0003970 under our openstackci tenant17:14
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fungiafter several minutes it switched back from "Restarting" to "Shut Down" again17:15
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krotscheckI’m just concerned that the database was corrupted.17:16
krotscheckOr lost17:16
fungijroll: phschwartz: JayF: ^ know anybody on the rackspace trove operations team hanging out in irc?17:16
jeblairkrotscheck: so i assume the error is being masked by either the storyboard api server or the ui...i wonder if it ought to throw more of a fit in this case.17:16
jeblairkrotscheck: we have a db backup system, if we aren't using it for storyboard, we probably should start doing so now.17:16
krotscheckThe API layer should definitely throw sane exceptions, I agree.17:17
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jeblairkrotscheck: i believe we are _not_ using it for storyboard.  i will whip up a change to enable it.17:17
fungiworst case, i do have a database dump from not long ago in my homedir, plus we can rerun the imports for infra bugs from lp to get a lot of it back17:18
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krotscheckOh good17:18
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fungioh, actually the dump in my homedir is just specific tables17:18
fungiso maybe not17:18
krotscheckWell, let’s hope the server’s not fubar.17:18
fungiahh, yeah, i was only dumping the users table. sorry :/17:19
fungithis just appeared moments ago (since i last checked): https://status.rackspace.com/index/viewincidents?group=1317:20
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fungi"Our Cloud engineers are investigating connectivity issues impacting a subset of databases in our DFW data center. During this time, customer databases affected by this may experience intermittent availability issues."17:20
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add database backups to storyboard  https://review.openstack.org/13844517:20
krotscheckWow, taht was easy.17:21
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add system backups to storyboard  https://review.openstack.org/13844717:22
jeblairand for extra paranoia ^17:22
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clarkbjeblair: out of curiousity, are we properly migrating the private key associated with those users when we rebuilt gerrit?17:23
fungioh, also i noticed over the weekend that we never approved the puppet change to consistently set our uids, and have built several new servers since then which will need similar renumbering manually applied now :(17:25
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Fixed refresh token.  https://review.openstack.org/13817417:25
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openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Adds a link for new developers to use sandbox  https://review.openstack.org/10495117:30
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JayFfungi: trove being cloud dbs, right?17:30
JayFfungi: I don't have a direct contact on that team anymore, but if you file a ticket and give me the number I'll prod the appropriate people17:31
fungiJayF: yeah, though it looks like they've since become aware of the issue17:31
fungiJayF: thanks for the offer though!17:31
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Add database backups to storyboard  https://review.openstack.org/13844517:32
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/requirements: Pin oslo.concurrency < 0.3.0 until hacking H302 is fixed  https://review.openstack.org/13845417:32
mriedemsdague: ^17:32
chmouelcan someone help me cut a pypi release for stackforge project?17:32
sdagueyeh, I don't want to do that without a conversation with dhellman17:32
jeblairclarkb: no idea we should check17:33
jeblairfungi: oh no!17:33
clarkbchmouel: sure17:33
mriedemsdague: sure, it's just there17:33
jeblairi have registered #openstack-ansible and normalized its access17:33
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clarkbmattt: ^17:33
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fungijeblair: i'll try to identify and clean those up some time in the next day or two so we can get that merged and behind us17:33
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chmouelclarkb: i thnk there was a wiki page but i can't find it anymore, any chances you know where it is?17:34
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jeblairfungi: cool, thanks17:34
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clarkbchmouel: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GerritJenkinsGit#Tagging_a_Release you want to make sure that the project is registered on pypi first, openstackci is an owner, and that the proper release and taralls jobs are in place for your project17:35
chmouelclarkb: i think mordred already all of it and with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13395117:35
clarkbhttps://pypi.python.org/pypi/dox/9f33ae5 looks good though that version number may cause problems for people installing17:36
clarkbthat can be sorted out independently if it is an issue17:36
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KiallHumm - Is one of the pypi mirrors bust? https://jenkins06.openstack.org/job/gate-designate-pep8/262/console17:37
icchahey SlickNik pointed me to this channel, anyone seeing cloud databases issues with storyboard?17:38
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krotscheckiccha: Yep17:38
icchakrotscheck: is it in dfw?17:38
krotscheckiccha: I believe so.17:39
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fungiiccha: see http://status.rackspace.org/17:39
matttclarkb: yay, thanks !17:39
icchakrotscheck: ya we are having an outage and our ops are working on it right now. fungi17:39
fungiiccha: whatever is happening in dfw has the trove db for it offline right now17:39
icchashould be resolved quickly17:39
chmouelclarkb: ah nice! so i can just tag/push it 0.1 or something and that would get automatically into pypi?17:39
clarkbKiall: yup, looks like bandersnatch synced the index page but not the wheel again...17:39
fungiiccha: awesome--thanks!@17:39
vponomaryovguys update of oslo libs broke gates17:40
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jesusaurusclarkb: again? is that something that happens somewhat frequently?17:40
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clarkbvponomaryov: yes in several different ways \o/17:40
clarkbjesusaurus: yes17:40
clarkbjesusaurus: its a bug they won't fix17:40
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clarkbbecause you know17:40
clarkbfixing hard bugs is not worth it17:40
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clarkbjesusaurus: I think it is a race in how it does syncing17:41
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clarkbjesusaurus: basically it says I have new stuff, updates packages, then updates index page17:41
jesusaurusi dont understand why people have so much trouble writing pypi mirroring tools, but im not quite motivating to try writing my own yet17:41
fungiclarkb: https://bitbucket.org/pypa/bandersnatch/issue/51 again i guess?17:41
clarkbfungi: looks like it17:41
clarkbbecause it updates packages first then the index page well the index page can be extra updated17:42
fungiclarkb: no download failure in the log then i take it17:42
clarkbbut your packages are stale17:42
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clarkbfungi: I am about to hop on and check17:42
dstufftjesusaurus: because PyPI mirroring protocol is a pile of shit17:42
dstufftit's basically wget --mirror with some smarts17:42
clarkbdstufft: but since your index pages are not versioned they are prone to those races17:42
clarkbwhich means that mirroring tools themselves must ensure consistency17:43
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clarkbbut bandersnatch is lazy and has no interest in that17:43
dstufftI'm not a bandersnatch maintainer so idk17:43
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dstufftI want to replace the whole mirroring protocol with some transactional17:43
clarkbdstufft: thats basically the story I was told on that bug17:43
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fungiclarkb: i think 51 is just in a "i don't know why this is broken state" unlike the earlier bugs we opened about it going ahead and updating the index after a tarball/wheel download failure17:43
dstufftcomputers are the worst17:44
dstufftI think I know why 51 happens17:45
clarkbfungi: oh do I need to go write down what is happening?17:45
clarkbI know why it happens17:45
clarkbyou upload two package files whcih updates a single index page17:45
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clarkbyes that is racy17:45
fungii wonder if this happens when a bandersnatch sync is in progress and the upload is registered into the index between when the index is parsed to see what needs downloading and when the index content itself is updated17:45
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clarkband we trip over it because we upload sdist and whl for all the things17:45
dstufftthe problem is PyPI does two queries17:46
dstufftone to fetch a list of files, one to fetch the latest serial17:46
clarkbfungi: I think sdist is uploaded first, bandersnatch says let me get sdist, it then says let me get index. by then whl has been uploaded17:46
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clarkbwhich means whl is on index but has not been synced as an actual package17:46
clarkbbut I defer to dstufft17:46
fungiclarkb: in the case of logilab-common yesterday there was only a tarball, but it still got skipped17:46
dstufftif bandersnatch hits the json endpoint and the wheel gets uploaded between the first query and the second17:47
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dstufftor whatever file17:47
dstufftthen the serial associated with that json response will be wrong17:47
clarkblooking at the log my description is exactly what happens17:47
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clarkbhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/143710/ thats it for oslotest17:48
dstufftclarkb: what you're describing should be fixed automatically on the next run of bandersnatch17:48
fungidstufft: except it's not17:48
dstufftbecause that's not the underlying problem17:48
fungidstufft: oh, what clarkb's describing would get fixed on a subsequent run, right17:48
dstufftPyPI has "serial" numbers17:48
dstufftit's just a montonically increasing number that increments for every change that happens17:49
clarkbfungi: so the fix for this is to have it redo?17:49
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fungidstufft: however what you're describing would persist on subsequent runs because bandersnatch thinks it already got everything it needed for that previous serial17:49
clarkbso they are both bugs then17:49
clarkbbecause fixing on the next run is a poor excuse17:49
fungiclarkb: either a full mirror refresh or manually install the missing files17:49
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clarkbhrm full refresh is probably worht it to catch anything else that has been derped17:50
dstufftfungi: right, because thinking about it, I'm 99% sure there's a race condition in PyPI where you'll get the wrong serial with a certain response17:50
fungiclarkb: sad thing is, we already did a full refresh ~27 hours ago17:50
dstufftwe probably need to opena  transaction with a different isolation level17:50
jktI managed to get Zuul + TH running and integrated with KDE's Gerrit, and it's already being used by a one real project (which happens to be mine, sure)17:50
jktso I wanted to say thank you for these tools :)17:50
fungijkt: thank you for your help improving those tools17:51
jeblairjkt: yaaay!17:51
clarkbfungi: how long did it take per server?17:51
fungiclarkb: i wasn't the one to start it so i don't know exactly, but ~2-3 hours17:52
clarkbalso where are these todo and state files17:52
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clarkbok I will copy files in I suppose then also set up a full sync17:52
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jktthe most limitting things was that we don't have Swift yet, so there's an SCP of the build log to a shared log aggregator machine17:53
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fungijeblair: krotscheck: iccha: looks like our storyboard database is up again17:54
jktI'm also wondering whether there's some way of intercepting the "job not registered" error from within Zuul, and bring up a VM instance on demand17:54
icchaawesome fungi !17:54
fungiiccha: thanks for the fast fix?17:54
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jktthat way I won't have to keep around X well-speced VMs for all of the X build environments we need17:54
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tykealanteaya: may I inquire as to what we might still need to do to get the OpenDaylight CI voting rights re-established?17:55
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jeblairjkt: i'd like to have an option in zuul to just go ahead and enqueue that job and then have a timeout (configurable but maybe 1 hour or so?) and only fail it if it doesn't start within the timeout17:56
clarkbok oslotest is on all four mirrors now17:56
jeblairjkt: if we did that, then if you are using nodepool, it will get the signal to spin one up17:56
clarkbI am going to figure out how to do full syncs on them now17:56
dstufftclarkb: ftr I don't particularly like the "eventually consistent" aspect of bandersnatch17:57
jeblairjkt: NOT_REGISTERED is mostly there to keep you from getting stuck due to a typo in the config file, but we have a job that checks our config file now and that is much less likely17:57
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fungidstufft: when it comes to mirroring protocols, "eventually consistent" means "randomly broken"17:58
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jktjeblair: I don't have nodepool yet; last time I checked it, it needed Jenkins to see "pressure" on the # of nodes, right?17:58
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jktjeblair: but what you're saying would indeed give me a building block for that feature, yup17:58
clarkbfungi: do you know where the state and todo files are?17:58
clarkbfungi: or are they misnamed? there is a status and generation file17:59
dstufftclarkb: status and generation are the files you want to delete IIRC17:59
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dstufftfungi: I agree yea17:59
jeblairjkt: no actually it just needs zuul's gearman.  we intend on using it with TH when we start using TH.  i don't _think_ it needs jenkins, but we might have missed something (since we don't use it that way)17:59
dstufftfungi: in the ~future~ the mirror protocol 2.0 won't allow it17:59
dstufftfungi: but time :(17:59
jeblairjhesketh, mattoliverau: are you using nodepool with th, or just long-running slaves?18:00
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anteayatykeal: you need to get edgar to tell me that you should have voting rights18:00
anteayaemagama that is18:00
fungiclarkb: yeah, those (i think the instructions i found said delete stats and also todo if it exists but didn't mention generation)18:00
jeblairjkt: if it accidentally requires jenkins, we should be able to fix that fairly easily18:00
fungier, status18:00
tykealanteaya: ah, ok.18:00
dstufftfungi: clarkb I think generation is a new file that lets a bandersnatch upgrade trigger a full refresh if something changes18:00
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mesteryHey infra folks, hoping I can get someone's time for a review of a stackforge project creation, needs one more +2. Thanks! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136854/18:01
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clarkbok those files are both moved out of the way18:02
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fungikrotscheck: interestingly, looks like maybe some data was only partially written? i have this new story with a broken task ("Project not found")18:02
fungikrotscheck: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200004518:02
clarkbon all 4 mirrors so things should converge on working18:02
fungikrotscheck: oh, i'm finding more with project not found18:02
krotscheckfungi: I see a project18:02
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anteayamestery: we are infra-manual sprinting today, I will add that to tomorrow's review list18:03
mesteryanteaya: Thanks so much for the response!18:03
fungikrotscheck: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/list only lists 10 projects for me18:03
fungikrotscheck: i wonder if that table got rolled back or something18:04
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krotscheckfungi: I’m seeing 6418:04
clarkbisn't innodb ACID?18:04
clarkbare we using innodb?18:04
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krotscheckfungi: Could you check your profile and see what your page size is set to?18:04
fungikrotscheck: aha, that was it18:05
mordredclarkb: yes. it is. but that if we're not doing multi-statement transactions, part of the write could get applied and not another18:05
fungikrotscheck: apologies, i was thrown because the ui just doesn't mention that there were additional results beyond my configured query limit18:05
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fungikrotscheck: and now i see a project for that story too18:06
fungii wonder...18:06
clarkbmordred: so commiting a transaction doesn't do what I think it does?18:06
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clarkbclearly we should all just use mongodb becaue then we will expect data loss18:06
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fungikrotscheck: interestingly, switching my page limit back to 10 didn't cause that task to go back to "no project found" so maybe something odd with query caching?18:07
mordredclarkb: committing a transaction does EXACTLY what you expect it to do18:08
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krotscheckfungi: Likely - cached result could have been left around.18:08
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mordredclarkb: but if you do "BEGIN; insert; COMMIT; BEGIN; insert; *crash*" then you will wind up with the first statement written and not the second18:08
krotscheckbtw, fungi - we’ve got a caching fix in the queue that’ll make things a lot faster for page loads.18:09
fungimordred: clarkb: krotscheck: yeah, so i no longer think i was seeing corruption or rollback. more likely something odd with how it got queried18:09
clarkbmordred: gotcha18:09
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clarkbok I have confirmed that bandersnatch is doing things. /me is going to context switch now18:12
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clarkbdstufft: (and I hate asking this), if we were to put a sleep between package artifact uploads how long of a sleep would it have to be to fix this issue? longer than the period of our bandersnatch cron?18:13
dstufftclarkb: don't think it has anything to do with that18:13
dstufft_any_ upload to pypi in between those two queries will do it18:14
dstuffti think18:14
clarkbdstufft: the difference here is they both reside on the same index18:14
clarkbdstufft: so when that index is synced you are broken broken18:14
dstufftright but that's not what confuses bandersnatch18:14
clarkbyou are inonsistent rather than just being behind18:14
fungidstufft: clarkb: yeah, i think the issue is that if we're in the middle of a bandersnatch sync when a file gets uploaded, we miss retrieving that file but update to the index which links it18:14
clarkbany upload can do it but in most case you would just be behind18:15
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clarkbmaybe behind forever18:15
clarkbbut not inconsistent18:15
dstufftwait which issue are we talking about18:15
clarkbdstufft: the issue of uploading a wheel and an sdist, the index updating for both, but bandersnatch only syncing one18:15
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fungiclarkb: i think what's happening there is that one of them got uploaded before the bandersnatch sync looked for files to download and the other got uploaded after that but before bandersnatch updated the index18:16
dstufftclarkb: there are a number of ways that can happen, some of which you can't control18:16
clarkbfungi: right, so to work around that we could sleep in theory between uploads of artifacts for the same project18:17
dstufftif you upload a file between when bandersnatch fetches the json and when bandersnatch fetches the index18:17
dstufftthat'll cause it18:17
clarkbdstufft: yes that is exactly what I was saying is happening :)18:17
clarkbits racy18:17
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fungiclarkb: except it still doesn't particularly help since the file could be uploaded between when bandersnatch looks for new files and when it pulls the new index18:17
dstufftyes, that'll fix on the next run of bandersnatch18:18
dstufftthe only way to actually fix that is to make a lock18:18
clarkbfungi: not if the sleep is longer than the period of bandersnatch runs18:18
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clarkbdstufft: yes the proper way to fix it would be with the mirroring itself18:18
fungiclarkb: i don't understand. we can trigger this with a single file upload. there would be nowhere to sleep18:18
dstufftso that you don't upload when bandersnatch is updating18:18
clarkbfungi: we can?18:18
dstufftthe single file thing is different18:18
clarkbya I don't think single file uploads are this issue18:18
dstufftok wait18:18
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dstuffthere's how bandersnatch works, it hits a JSON endpoint to get a list of files to download, it downloads those files, then it downlaods the index.html18:19
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dstufftas part of that there is a serial number that gets returned in the HTTP responses that tells it what "version" of PyPI a particular document is from18:20
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dstufftthere are two issues at play here18:20
dstufftone is: the JSON is returning data for serial X, but it's claiming it's for serial X+1, thus bandersnatch won't see anything that was added in the +1 because it thinks it already synced that18:20
dstufftso if X+1 added a file (wheel, single file, whatever), you'll never get that18:21
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dstufftthe other issue is that there is a race condition, if you add a new file between when it gets the list of files and when it downloads the index.html, the index.html will reference a file that doesn't exist18:22
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dstufftthat one willl be fixed on the enxt run of bandersnatch18:22
clarkbdstufft: gotcha, so we have definitely hit both then18:22
clarkbbecause the first race is the one we just hit18:23
clarkband I have seen instances of the second via failed jobs and checkign aginst logs after file exists18:23
clarkbI am guessing second is harder to trip since the timing is more exact18:23
dstufft(the second one can also happen in a slightly different way, bandersantch "fails soft", so if it fails to download a particular file it'll keep going and even update the index.html, failures like PyPI throws a 503, the connection breaks, whatever)18:23
fungidstufft: got it. so the first issue you describe is happening when we upload two files, or potentially when two different projects just happen to upload separate files which we roll up into a single sync18:23
dstufftfungi: yea18:23
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fungiwhich explains what we saw for logilab-common then18:24
dstufftthere's nothing y18:24
fungithey uploaded a tarball around the same time as another project, and we only downloaded one of them18:24
dstufftthere's nothing y'all can really do to fix the first issue, that's just a problem in PyPI that i'll see about fixing here shortly18:24
clarkbdstufft: is the first a bug on the pypi side then?18:24
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dhellmannwas any of this caused by all of the oslo releases coming so close together?18:25
dstufftI need to see about wrapping those two queries in a transaction or not18:25
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fungithat's definitely the more debilitating issue for us since it persists indefinitely until we fix it manually on every mirror we run18:25
clarkbdhellmann: I think it just meant that the 1/10 chance of hitting this was more likely to be tripped18:25
clarkbor whatever the chance is18:25
dstufftdhellmann: it could have happened if you uploaded files between when bandersnatch fetched the JSON andw hen the index.html change was fetched18:25
dhellmanndstufft: ok, we released a bunch of libraries today, and some may have happened simultaneously18:26
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dstufftI think the second issue can be fixed in bandersnatch without making any major changes to bandsnatch just be re-ordering the operations18:26
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dstufftif bandersnatch downloads the index.html file first, but _doesn't_ put it into place (store the data in memory or wahtever), then downloads files, then drops the index.html into place, then deletes any files18:26
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Re-approval of change as alternative to recheck  https://review.openstack.org/13820418:26
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jrollfungi: no, don't know who works on trove here, sorry18:26
dstufftthat should stop the "we uploaded something in between the json and the fetching of the index.html problem"18:27
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clarkbdstufft: ++18:27
fungijroll: it's recovered now anyway. thanks!18:27
dstufftbecause the race codnition will be "you might use an older index.html but have extra package files that aren't references yet but will be referenced on the next run of bandersnatch"18:27
jrollawesome :)18:27
dstufftinstead of "you might have an index.html that points to files that doesn't exist yet"18:27
clarkbdstufft: yup much much better18:28
dstufft(although the race condition will still happen for _deletes_, but those are muchless likely to happen)18:28
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clarkbya deletes are far less frequent. I am happy making this better for the 99% case18:28
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dstuffthttps://bitbucket.org/pypa/bandersnatch/issue/53/index-out-of-sync-with-files is probably the pypi side issue18:29
dstuffta new upload would trigger a new serial number so it would force past the issue18:29
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dstufftclarkb: fungi you might make the issue less likely to happen if you upload the wheel first18:33
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/infra-manual: Add WIP section to core.rst  https://review.openstack.org/13816318:33
dstufftless likely to cause problems18:33
dstufftif you upload sdist than wheel, you might be missing the wheel file18:34
dstufftand pip prefers the wheel file18:34
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clarkbdstufft: ya that would be another possible work around18:34
dstufftif you upload wheel than sdist, you might be missing the sdist, but pip prefers the wheel file18:34
clarkbI will propose that now18:34
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Upload wheels before sdists  https://review.openstack.org/13847818:42
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clarkbfungi: jeblair dstufft ^ so many hacks18:42
dstufftI made an issue for y'all18:42
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fungidstufft: clarkb: thanks!18:42
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clarkbdstufft: t18:42
clarkber ty18:43
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fungiclarkb: worth noting on 138478, it's more likely that a project has sdist working but bdist wheel broken for configuration reasons. the earlier order allowed tarball uploads to work even if the wheel upload subsequently broke and caused the job to fail18:45
fungii'm not opposed, it's just a behavior change we need to keep in mind18:46
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clarkbfungi: those projects should be switched to the tarball upload only job18:46
clarkbfungi: we can sort that out as we run into it I guess18:46
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mriedemlooks like the oslotest 1.3.0 pypi issue has already been cleared up?18:52
clarkbmriedem: should be18:52
clarkbmriedem: I ninja synced the wheel then triggered a full mirror sync18:52
mriedemk, just updating e-r18:52
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/infra-manual: Core revier: Add +-2, approval  https://review.openstack.org/13817718:55
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for missing oslotest bug 1398500  https://review.openstack.org/13848318:56
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jogoanteaya: good to know. heyongli: I am excited to see the new tests19:46
anteayajogo: well that is just it, I'm not sure he has new tests19:47
anteayamy understanding was he doesn't know how new tests get into the workflow19:47
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anteayaso if he is to write them, he might need some guidance from you on how to get them into the flow so his ci can use them19:48
anteayathat was my take away from his question but I could be wrong19:48
jogoanteaya: that is my understanding as well19:48
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jogoanteaya: and based on what exactly the tests will do we can find a home for them19:49
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anteayayesterday he showed up in about 3 hours from now19:49
anteayahe might again today, would you be around?19:50
anteayajogo: ^19:50
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clarkbnibalizer: mordred http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2014/11/24/5 fwiw19:54
clarkbalso update your dockers19:54
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mtreinishfungi, clarkb: with jeepyb is there a way to have update_bug handle changes to a project when it's not the same name as the repo19:54
mtreinishI'm thinking about tempest-lib because we use the tempest lp tracker for everything19:55
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/requirements: Update to latest hacking  https://review.openstack.org/13850719:55
clarkbmtreinish: yes you set the group value to the lp name19:55
nibalizerclarkb: ouch19:55
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dimsany requirements-core folks around? please help with 13850719:56
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fungimtreinish: set groups: tempest for tempest-lib in gerrit/projects.yaml (project-config repo)19:57
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openstackgerritJukka Lehtniemi proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Add support for Gerrit replication events  https://review.openstack.org/13533219:57
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scottdaHi Infra Team. I see that the #openstack-cinder channel is not archived here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/19:58
scottdaWhat can we do to get archiving working?19:58
AJaeger_scottda: bring it up at the next cinder meeting and get a resolution for archiving.19:59
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scottdaok, thanks19:59
AJaeger_If there's consensus by the cinder team, it's easy to setup with a change to the project-config repo19:59
AJaeger_scottda: many projects rejected public logging for their channels19:59
scottdacool. I'm putting it on the Agenda now.20:00
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sdaguedims: we really don't need that20:01
clarkbwow board meeting, tc meeting, sprint ETOOMANY options20:01
clarkbI suppose mordred and jeblair are likely in the first two so I should keep sprinting20:01
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dimssdague: trying to figure out why https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138463/ is still failing20:02
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dimssdague: gate-nova-pep8 specifically, should have picked up latest hacking20:02
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jogoanteaya: I won't it will be 1AM local time for me20:03
fungiyeah, board meetings arbitrarily scheduled during the same timeslot as the standing tc meetings do not make for an increased number of tc members paying attention to board stuff... hopefully that's not by design20:03
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anteayajogo: in 3 hours time?20:03
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jogoanteaya: yes, it is 10PM in Israel20:04
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anteayahow long are you in israal?20:05
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jogoanteaya: until tomorrow night -- I was here over thanksgiving break for a wedding20:05
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anteayajogo: nice, I hope you had/are having a good time20:05
jogoanteaya: I did, thanks for asking, it was a fun wedding20:06
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clarkbjhesketh: fungi jeblair you know what I am going to put jenkins07 in shutdown mode now20:07
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clarkband restart it today. it will be the guinea pig20:08
jeblairclarkb: k20:08
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Print pip freeze before running tox  https://review.openstack.org/13851420:08
mtreinishfungi, clarkb: cool thanks, I think I already have that set in projects.yaml20:08
clarkbI cannot log into the jenkinses20:08
clarkbanyone else want to test that?20:08
clarkbI tried 07 and jenkins.o.o20:08
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openstackgerritJustin Shepherd proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adding gerritbot to #openstack-ansible  https://review.openstack.org/13851520:09
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clarkbSEVERE: No service element found to match the ClaimedID / OP-endpoint in the assertion.20:10
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mtreinishyeah everything works as expected, it was just a bit slower than I thought20:11
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clarkbmtreinish: logging into jenkins?20:11
mtreinishclarkb: sorry, no I was still talking about update_bug :)20:12
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mtreinishlogging into jenkins.o.o worked fine for me fwiw20:13
clarkbmtreinish: thanks20:13
clarkbmust be something with my account?20:13
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Use "procedures" for creators.rst  https://review.openstack.org/13847020:13
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clarkbmorganfainberg: ^ you know openid any idea what that might mean?20:14
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for missing oslotest bug 1398500  https://review.openstack.org/13848320:14
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1398500 in openstack-ci "HTTP error 404 while getting oslotest-1.3.0" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139850020:14
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fungiclarkb: i too get "Failed to login: Discovered information verification failed."20:18
openstackgerritElizabeth K. Joseph proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Add source repo to footer  https://review.openstack.org/13852020:18
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fungiclarkb: also we still need a zuul restart. i fell asleep before getting around to it last night20:19
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clarkbIgot into jenkins.o.o but still no luck on 0720:19
fungiclarkb: i get the same error on 0120:19
clarkbmtreinish: can you try 07 and 0120:19
fungii logged into 04 just fine20:20
mtreinishclarkb: 07 worked for me, I'll try 01 now20:20
mtreinishclarkb: 01 failed with: http://paste.openstack.org/show/143792/20:20
openstackgerritElizabeth K. Joseph proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Add source repo to footer  https://review.openstack.org/13852020:20
clarkbmtreinish: ya thats what I get20:21
clarkbso your account is not magical20:21
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fungi02 works for me, 03 fails20:21
mtreinishoh well, it was nice while it lasted :)20:21
clarkbI wonder if lp openid is derping behind a load balacner?20:21
fungiperhaps it's $RANDOM20:21
fungiyeah, that20:21
clarkband so source depends on what you hit on backend20:21
clarkbgerrit is fine because its source is constant20:21
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clarkbanteaya: please link that etherpad when ou are ready to have others look at it20:23
clarkbI think the doc change is just about ready to go in20:23
clarkbso announcing is next step20:23
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anteayaopen an etherpad for which to put some stuff20:23
clarkbdoc change needs jeblair review and I suppose he may get to that after meetings20:23
anteayaI will do that20:23
anteayahere comes content20:24
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openstackgerritElizabeth K. Joseph proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Add source repo to footer  https://review.openstack.org/13852020:28
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Re-approval of change as alternative to recheck  https://review.openstack.org/13820420:29
anteayarough outline20:30
jeblairjogo: yeah, we have a rename event happening this saturday (announcement should go out soon), so that might be a good time to move hacking into openstack/20:30
anteayado fill in as you see fit20:30
clarkbanteaya: I will look as soon as the current crop of doc sprint stuff is off my plate20:30
jeblairsdague: i agree that devstack warrants more planning/notice, so we should probably not aim to include it on saturday :)20:31
sdaguejeblair: yeh20:31
jogojeblair: cool. I don't have any opinion on what namespace hacking should live in, so anything is fine with me.20:31
fungiit's like ripping off a band-aid20:31
anteayaclarkb: fair enough20:32
anteayaclarkb: mostly I created a landing page for real content to happen20:32
anteayaI'm not married to anything I wrote there20:32
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Enable HTTP Caching on resources.  https://review.openstack.org/13614920:33
morganfainbergclarkb: hm? Just reading back scroll was getting lunch.20:34
morganfainbergAlso. RAIN IN LA! Yay!!20:34
anteayamorganfainberg: yay20:34
sdagueso here's an interesting fact20:34
sdagueapparently ceilometer is not atomically coupled to swift for upgrade20:34
clarkbmorganfainberg: jenkins openid with lp is failing in weird ways20:35
clarkbthere is an error logged in scrollback from jenkins and i have no idea what that means20:35
sdaguepossibly impated by our non overlapping oslo.utils usage20:35
jogosdague: that sounds fun20:35
morganfainbergclarkb: weird20:35
sdaguedhellmann: you up for helping sort this out?20:35
sdaguebecause this is a new issue20:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/infra-manual: Use "procedures" for creators.rst  https://review.openstack.org/13847020:36
morganfainbergclarkb: let me take a look at the scrollback here in a moment.20:36
sdagueI guess we could also disable ceilometer in grenade20:37
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morganfainberganteaya: https://twitter.com/mdrnstm/status/53988125246857216020:40
sdaguedhellmann: so this looks like fall out from version caps, not having overlapping supported versions of libraries causes issues20:40
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: disable ceilometer in grenade runs  https://review.openstack.org/13852820:40
sdaguethat's maybe a work around, but I have no idea if that will work20:41
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sdaguebtw, everything is currently blocked on this20:41
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Require PyPI credentials when registering projects  https://review.openstack.org/13852920:41
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Add infra contact info in creators doc  https://review.openstack.org/13853020:41
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Add release management content  https://review.openstack.org/13820620:46
morganfainbergclarkb: looking through the Java impl, it is looking like the service is is null, so not matching the requested assertion's SP.20:47
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clarkbmorganfainberg: so the response coming back from lp is leaving out a field? and jenkins is puking?20:47
morganfainbergclarkb: afaict this happens if there is a mismatch on the SP's requested identifier and what the SP is actually looking for.20:47
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/infra-manual: Add source repo to footer  https://review.openstack.org/13852020:47
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Added gerritbot to openstack-ansible channel  https://review.openstack.org/13846120:47
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add #openstack-ansible to accessbot  https://review.openstack.org/13853420:47
clarkbmorganfainberg: what is an SP?20:47
morganfainbergclarkb: or LP is leaving out a field20:47
morganfainbergService provider.20:47
morganfainbergEg Jenkins in this case is the SP.20:48
morganfainbergSo there might be a mismatch between what is requested when going to LP and what Jenkins is looking for.20:48
morganfainbergHost name? / address? Eg Jenkins looking for "local host" incorrectly. *i think*20:49
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Fix spelling of OpenStack in the project descriptions of Gerrit  https://review.openstack.org/13838820:49
morganfainbergThis looks to be specific error wise to the Java impl, so I'm making some creative leaps.20:49
morganfainberg(The text of the error that is)20:50
clarkband it works in some cases20:50
morganfainbergSome hosts vs other hosts?20:50
clarkbso our theory was maybe load balancing is hitting bad backends20:50
clarkbmorganfainberg: well jenkins.o.o didn't work for me, then it worked for mtreinish then it worked for me20:50
morganfainbergYeah. That would be my guess based on the error20:50
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morganfainbergA few of the backends are looking for the wrong SP. but the initial request is valid (or inverse of that, bad on initial request)20:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/infra-manual: Fill out running jobs with zuul section  https://review.openstack.org/13820920:52
morganfainbergThough my guess is if the initial request was bad, you'd be redirected to the wrong place all together.20:53
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clarkbwell it knows I am logged in and what groups I belong to20:54
clarkbso the remote side seems to get enough info20:54
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clarkbmaybe they are not rewriting some header or similar on the return path for packets to jenkins?20:54
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morganfainbergIt def sounds like some backends are wonky20:54
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/infra-manual: Require PyPI credentials when registering projects  https://review.openstack.org/13852920:54
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for grenade/ceilometer/oslo/swift bug 1398561  https://review.openstack.org/13853520:54
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1398561 in swift "pkg_resources.VersionConflict: oslo.config 1.5.0 is installed but oslo.config>=1.4.0,<1.5 is required by ['ceilometer']" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139856120:54
clarkbjeblair: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137240/ would be a good one to review hwen you have a minute20:55
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jeblairclarkb: +2 should i +3?20:58
clarkbjeblair: I think we can +3, then get announcement out today and work on groups tomorrow20:59
clarkbunless you want to have groups in place, then announcement then docs20:59
clarkbI think we can move forward because new accounts should not be voting so they can just use that process20:59
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jeblairclarkb: moving forward as you suggest seems sound21:00
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jeblairclarkb: let's mention this in the cross project meeting too21:01
SergeyLukjanovjeblair, fungi, clarkb, gerrit maintenance announcement http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-December/052031.html21:01
clarkbjeblair: ++21:01
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fungithanks SergeyLukjanov!21:04
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SergeyLukjanovfungi, so, I'm going to make an etherpad with all comands before saturday21:04
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/infra-manual: Add release management content  https://review.openstack.org/13820621:05
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clarkbok looking at third party account announcement etherpad now21:06
fungiSergeyLukjanov: sounds good--i look forward to reviewing it21:06
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for grenade/ceilometer/oslo/swift bug 1398561  https://review.openstack.org/13853521:07
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1398561 in swift "pkg_resources.VersionConflict: oslo.config 1.5.0 is installed but oslo.config>=1.4.0,<1.5 is required by ['ceilometer']" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139856121:07
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SergeyLukjanovfungi, thx21:09
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Document new third party self service accounts  https://review.openstack.org/13724021:11
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clarkbanteaya: how does that look? the links I added should work as soon as post jobs for ^ run21:12
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add #openstack-ansible to accessbot  https://review.openstack.org/13853421:18
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Added gerritbot to openstack-ansible channel  https://review.openstack.org/13846121:19
dimssdague: what are the new guidelines for updating oslo lib versions in global requirements? (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138407/)21:19
sdaguedims: I don't know, but I don't think that's going to work21:19
dimshehe, fair enough. trying to figure out how/when we should log reviews21:20
clarkbya you can't21:20
clarkbat the very least it should be one dep per review21:20
sdagueper project meeting - someone needs to actually sort out a coherent requirements model of the world21:20
sdagueotherwise we need to go and revert the caps21:20
dimsclarkb: i don't think that's the problem21:20
clarkbdims: its part of it21:21
clarkbbecause it means you can't stagger in21:21
sdaguebut more importantly, I think not having overlap is going to cause craziness21:21
clarkbalso everyone knows that by virtue of the > you get the new versions21:22
clarkbyou don't need that change to use the new versions21:22
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clarkbyou only need it if you need new features21:22
dimssdague: one reason i logged that was to make sure i can update nova so that the minesweeper CI would run the correct/new version of oslo.vmware21:22
clarkbdims: it should by default because >21:23
sdagueyeh, we need to stop uplifting21:23
dimsclarkb: checking21:23
sdagueif you want a specific CI to test a specific version, just pip install that in advance21:23
sdagueas long as it's compatible, it's fine21:23
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dhellmannclarkb: but we also want to express the requirements when we add new features to libraries, so while we don't always need to raise the min sometimes we really do21:23
sdaguerequirements is a bounding box21:23
dhellmannand apparently now we can't?21:24
clarkbdhellmann: right you onl need that if you need the features21:24
dhellmanndid I make the caps too low?21:24
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clarkbdhellmann: you don't need it for say minesweeper to do a thing21:24
dhellmannclarkb: right, which is something we'll be having, so we need to make it work21:24
sdaguedhellmann: well it looks like the current policy is that there is no overlap between supported oslo.config for juno and kilo, for instance21:24
sdaguesorry, oslo.utils21:24
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sdaguethat's that current proposal21:24
sdagueif that is true.... you've just made upgrades terrible21:25
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sdaguebecause now all services have to upgrade at once21:25
dhellmannwell, I don't know if that's true21:25
clarkbsdague: or install in per service venvs21:25
sdaguesure, or never use a linux distro21:25
sdagueso we can have that argument separately21:26
dhellmannyeah, I don't care about any of that, I just want to understand how to ratchet the requirements up21:26
sdaguebut having no overlap means you've now coupled everything to everything21:26
dhellmanndo we go move the cap on the stable branch first, for example?21:26
clarkbdhellmann: bumping it up means that during an upgrade you have to shutdown everything, upgrade everything, then start things21:26
dimsclarkb: devstack does not do "-U" to pull the latest from what i can tell -
clarkbdims: it doesn't need to21:27
dhellmannclarkb: I promise you I understand the problem. Can we talk about the fix?21:27
clarkbdims: if you do a fresh install which ou should because crazy otherwise21:27
clarkbdims: then you always get the latest thing21:27
clarkbdhellmann: that is the fix21:27
dhellmannclarkb: so we never change the requirements ever again and depend on pip to do the right thing and the distros to somehow know which version we really want?21:27
clarkbI really don't think there is any other way around it if we accept lifting cross project dependencies across releases21:27
clarkbdhellmann: no21:28
clarkbdhellmann: you just say you can't upgrade in the way sdague wants to upgrade21:28
clarkbdocument how to upgrade21:28
clarkband move on21:28
fungidhellmann: i think our lockstep-avoidance guarantee is per major release, so should be able to use some combination of juno stuff and kilo stuff for as long as both juno and kilo are supported21:28
dhellmannclarkb: ok, well, I'm not sure that's really an answer either21:28
dhellmannfungi: right, that's what I'm thinking -- maybe we raise the caps on juno21:28
sdaguedhellmann: so that means uncapping right?21:28
dhellmannsdague: not completely21:29
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dhellmannsdague: maybe those should be <= instead of <21:29
clarkbit means you should cap only on incompat barriers21:29
dhellmannand then the min for kilo is this first set of releases21:29
notmynamewhen are the changes to testing being implemented?21:29
dhellmannclarkb: we capped because we couldn't predict where those would be21:29
dhellmannso maybe we do uncap, and then just add caps when things break21:29
clarkbdhellmann: sure, so I described how to fix this with those requirments21:30
clarkbI personally am a fan of never capping21:30
clarkbbecause knowing when you are broken and fixing it is btter21:30
dhellmannclarkb: I will send the screamers to talk to you21:30
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clarkbthey already scream at me21:30
sdagueclarkb: if you give me force push authority to requirements to fast fix things, I'm sort of ok with that21:30
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dhellmannwhat fix are you applying?21:30
clarkbnotmyname: what changes to testing? sorry don't know that I have enough context21:30
fungipart of this is projects wanting to have hard dependencies on new features of libraries rather than degrading gracefully. yes the latter is more work, but makes for a far smoother upgrade21:31
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notmynameclarkb: the one sdague proposed to limit what's tested against what21:31
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dhellmannfungi: that's true21:31
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clarkbnotmyname: they have been going in piece by piece21:31
fungi"take advantage of this new feature" should ideally happen at least a release prior to "no longer work without this new feature"\21:31
clarkbso a lot of the client stuff is done and now I think some changes are up to do eg swift and other servers21:31
sdaguenotmyname: mostly it needs reviews - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137184/21:32
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sdagueclarkb / fungi you guys could review it :)21:32
fungisdague: guess what change i just started reviewing ;)21:32
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* fungi is event driven21:32
dhellmannsdague: should I propose a revert of the cap patch in stable/juno requirements?21:32
sdaguedhellmann: I don't know. Honestly, this is probably dragon #121:33
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notmynamesdague: we've got 3 core and one contributor from swift who have added a +1 to that patch. what else can we do to help it along? :-)21:33
sdaguewe still don't have a volunteer on driving this right?21:33
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dhellmannsdague: driving the requirements thing? I thought we were doing that.21:33
clarkbnotmyname: we are sprinting today and yestday and had holiday so mostly just need to not be swamped with other things21:33
sdaguedhellmann: I'm very much not21:34
notmynameclarkb: unpossible!21:34
dhellmannsdague: ok, well then we should just have kept doing alpha releases I guess, because it was working even if everyone hates the letter 'a'21:34
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clarkbno alphas come with other problems. I think we have two very concrete solutions here21:35
sdagueI kind of feel like there needs to be a spec about all these implications, because the whole picture is hard to keep in ones head, especially the upgrade implications21:35
clarkbwhich are "stop capping because caps are terrible" or "only support forklift upgrades"21:35
dhellmannsdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138546/21:35
sdagueclarkb: ok, so in this particular case there was a grenade work around from grizzly that was hurting us - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138538/21:36
sdaguebut it exposes an issue with the fact that we do install / uninstall oslo.config a couple of times due to the incompatibilities21:36
clarkbsdague: and you avoid that by uncapping21:37
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clarkbor at least being flexible enough in caps that you can move forward21:37
sdagueclarkb: sure21:37
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clarkbif however the cap is literally for juno>=1.0,<1.1 for kilo>=1.1,<1.2 you have basically said only forklifts are allowed21:38
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sdaguethat's the thing we can't have21:38
clarkbsince we only ever allow going from N-1 to N you have to do at least juno>=1.0,<1.2 kilo>=1.1,<1.3 and so forth21:38
fungii think part of the problem is that we moved forward with the assumption that we could add new features or api-breaking changes in libs but we haven't yet gotten sufficient tests into place which insure we're insulated from them, nor solutions implemented to solve things like the client library dual-use issue21:39
clarkbthat certainly makes things worse21:39
funginew features are fine if we have jobs which prevent other libraries used in the stable test chain from implementing hard dependencies on them21:40
fungiand we need to consider "adds new requirement" as an api breaking change i think21:40
clarkbthey are also fine as long as we are backward compat for N-121:40
fungisince python packaging doesn't really have a solid implementation for optional requirements21:40
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fungiwell, i think arbitrarily growing the requirements list for stable releases indicates a hole we haven't properly plugged21:41
clarkbI don't21:41
clarkbbecause you ahve to deal with bugs21:41
clarkband that means requirements updates21:42
clarkbin somewhat arbitrary ways beacuse python21:42
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fungiexcept we _very_ rarely add new requirements to fix a stable-backport bug. most of the time they're creeping in because a new version of a lib wants them to implement some new feature21:42
clarkbagreed, I think you need to handle both things21:43
clarkbwhich is :/21:43
fungieven then, i don't think adding a new dependency is really a sane solution to provide for a stable backport. distros can't really consume that "fix"21:44
clarkbit is if they already have it packaged21:44
clarkbit would be a machinery fix that would have to accomodate distros21:44
fungiokay, that's a valid point...21:44
fungihowever, far more scrutiny needed over stable requirements changes21:45
sdagueso the crux of this is we don't really have a "how do you upgrade openstack" policy. We have a minimum amount of upgrade functionality as enforced by whatever is in grenade, but it's definitely minimal21:45
clarkbsdague: yup21:45
sdakeanyone have ideas of what is going on with oslo.test21:45
clarkbsdake: yes bandersnatch failed to update it beacuse lol21:45
clarkbnow fixed21:45
sdakecool so the gate should be working now?  It just failed about 10 seconds ago21:46
clarkboh its happening again?21:46
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/infra-manual: Re-approval of change as alternative to recheck  https://review.openstack.org/13820421:46
clarkbclearly I should read the logs21:46
sdakeseems tto be21:46
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/infra-manual: Add infra contact info in creators doc  https://review.openstack.org/13853021:46
sdagueclarkb: well there were more things released21:46
sdake HTTP error 404 while getting http://pypi.IAD.openstack.org/packages/py2.py3/o/oslotest/oslotest-1.3.0-py2.py3-none-any.whl#md5=8bbde802d5a2beb79efe5752b9349b22 (from http://pypi.IAD.openstack.org/simple/oslotest/)21:46
sdakeI think that is the crux of it21:46
sdaguesdake: if you click on the date on the left you get an anchor21:47
clarkbfungi: so I have a shell open that clearly shows the whl is ther21:47
clarkbfungi: but a new ls says its gone21:47
clarkbis it possible the full sync synced us back to broken?21:47
clarkbthat would be AWESOME21:47
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clarkbbut its only missing on iad21:48
jeblairoh right, i was going to afs this week :/21:48
jeblair<sigh> plans21:48
sdakesdague could you clarify - I dont understand21:49
clarkbI am going to rewget for now21:49
fungiclarkb: you21:49
sdaguesdake: http://logs.openstack.org/80/138280/6/check/gate-magnum-python27/a0d4afe/console.html#_2014-12-02_21_39_36_77721:49
clarkbso whl is back on iad mirror21:49
fungiyou're sure you added it manually on iad and then after the full sync it was missing again?21:49
clarkbfungi: I have scrollback I can copy pasta21:50
clarkbbut ya21:50
fungino need, just confirming i understood what you were saying21:50
fungiso... yeah. weird. i have not seen that before21:50
fungiwas there another oslotest release maybe?21:50
openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/pbr: Packagers vs package maintainers  https://review.openstack.org/13839421:51
clarkbbasically it went `ls #file missing ; wget file ; ls #file there ; mv generation and status file ; check sync is running ; ls # this is the one I just ran file is missing`21:51
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sdaguefungi: can you promote 138538,121:52
sdaguethat should unwedge us21:52
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fungisdague: checking21:53
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fungisdague: done21:54
clarkbthe other 3 mirrors haven't done that21:54
sdagueI'm about to drop off for the evening. However as seen in the first round of test results, that will resolve the current issue that all projects are bouncing off of.21:55
notmynamefungi: clarkb: thanks :-)21:55
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sdakesdague where the is the control to make that yellow box?21:56
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clarkbthough iad i the only one that seems "caught" up21:56
sdagueit's based on the dates21:56
mtreinishsdake: the timestamps are links to do that21:56
sdakegot it21:56
sdagueso every line with the same timestamp gets highlighted21:56
sdakewould be sweet if I could click over it and it set the url21:56
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sdakeanyway work for later ;-)21:56
sdaguepatches welcomed :)21:56
sdagueos-loganalyze project21:57
dstufftfungi: clarkb so21:57
clarkbI don't think we want that project getting any user input fwiw21:57
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: adjust swift testing definitions to things that actually test swift  https://review.openstack.org/13718421:57
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dstufftfungi: clarkb remember the PyPI side error condition I talked about?21:57
clarkbbeacuse it will hopefully be swiftified at some point21:57
clarkbdstufft: ya21:57
sdagueclarkb: it's all javascript21:57
clarkbsdague: I guess I didn't grok "set the url" then21:57
sdagueso being backend swift wouldn't impact it21:57
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sdagueset the url after #21:58
dstufftthat response gets cached, so fastly can cache a JSON representation that includes an OLD set of data with a NEW serial21:58
sdaguewhich is in page nav21:58
dstufftI think it gets cached for like a day or so21:58
clarkbdstufft: \o/21:58
dstufftclarkb: so if it's cached, it's entirely possible that you have bandersnatch deleting the .whl file21:59
sdakesdague I'd love to help, but my webfu is not good :(21:59
dstufftbecause the JSON says it shouldn't exist21:59
sdakeI can barely handle all this newfangled rest api stuff21:59
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clarkbdstufft: rgr21:59
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Add instructions to set team owners in LP  https://review.openstack.org/13855822:00
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dstufftclarkb: https://i.imgur.com/QKgd7ld.png not an entirely wrong graph of how this all works22:01
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clarkbsdague: I parsed as make a friendlier url. now I reparse as set highlight on lines I want22:01
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clarkband yes should do that22:01
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clarkbjeblair: fungi pleia2 SergeyLukjanov jhesketh https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/third-party-accounts-are-self-serve any more feedback on that?22:02
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clarkband jenkins07 refuses my auth22:04
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anteayaah was wondering about the delay, didn't dig though22:04
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jeblairclarkb: i think we need some instructions on what project release members will do22:04
clarkboh good point22:04
jeblairclarkb: we may need to create the groups first, then send this announcement22:05
jeblairotherwise that may be confusing :)22:05
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clarkbdo we?22:05
clarkbI dunno maybe we do. Mikal is a smart person, but saying there will be a group when there is no group is probably not good22:05
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anteayamikal: so do we have enough feedback to say nova-drivers will deal with this?22:06
anteayaand we can name them in the email?22:06
clarkbanteaya: no22:06
clarkbanteaya: I am not going to special case anything right now22:06
anteayaah okay22:06
clarkbI think its better to just get it does with -release groups since everyone has one of those22:06
clarkbok so if I am going to create groups first I should think about that.22:07
clarkbjeblair: fungi anteaya I don't think manage-projects is the right place for that22:07
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clarkbjeblair: fungi anteaya or is it and we create that group for all projects?22:07
jheskethclarkb: will look shortly22:07
anteayaclarkb: hmmm, good question22:08
anteayaI don't know22:08
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clarkbwe can make it a projects.yaml property22:08
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clarkbwith two pieces of info, the name of the voting group, and the name of the group that owns the voting group22:09
clarkblet me see what that looks like22:09
clarkbor we can manage it by hand22:09
anteayaI was picuring by hand, but let's see how ugly it looks as a change22:09
* anteaya is trying to use her words correctly22:09
sdagueclarkb: one last thing before I drop, can we confirm that hacking 0.9.4 is being used in the unit tests? - https://jenkins03.openstack.org/job/gate-nova-pep8/9271/console22:10
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clarkbsdague: http://pypi.ord.openstack.org/simple/hacking/ its not there so no22:11
dimsclarkb: would this help print the pip freeze? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138514/ before we run pep8?22:11
sdagueclarkb: hmmm... how long does it take to get there?22:11
jeblairclarkb: why do we have project-testers and project-testers-voting?22:12
clarkbjeblair: we don't we should only have the -voting group22:12
clarkbjeblair: that was the decision in last weeks meeting at least22:12
clarkbsdague: should get there when bandersnatch catches up22:13
jeblairclarkb: ok, etherpad did not get updated :)22:13
clarkbjeblair: no we switched to the docs change22:13
mikalanteaya: I think clarkb just answered for me?22:13
mtreinishsdague: heh, the last 2 times I pushed new releases of something fungi had to manually sync a region's mirror to get things working22:13
fungiclarkb: i don't get the manage-projects question... shouldn't we just amend the relevant project acls (i suppose we guess at which ones those are and then people can adjust their own acls to add new ones as needed)?22:13
sdagueclarkb: ok, I blocked some other work arounds based on the assumption that release fix was going to be quick22:13
sdaguebecause that's also breaking the world :)22:14
clarkbfungi: that only solves part of the problem. we need to set ownership to not be self owned then add the group to the larger voting ci group22:14
jeblairfungi: i don't think we would expect people to ajust these acls, instead it should all be group based22:14
clarkbfungi: and I was just going to start with that then people can adjust acls22:14
clarkbif they want22:14
jeblairclarkb: what adjustment would they want to make?22:14
fungijeblair: er, the acls are per-project because the groups are per-project, right?22:15
clarkbjeblair: if they want to restrict the group of voters to only their group22:15
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anteayamikal: it appears so22:15
clarkbjeblair: right now its all voting ci voting wherever22:15
clarkbwhich is status quo before and after proposed changes22:15
jeblairclarkb: oh, i thought that was the point of all this :)22:16
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clarkbthe point is to make it so that I don't have to answer 50 emails a week22:16
jeblairclarkb: where can i read the most recent version of the entire proposal? :)22:16
mikalanteaya: but yes, my take on it is that at least 4/6 nova-drivers are on board with using that group as the third party ci control group for nova22:16
clarkbjeblair: in the docs change you approved22:16
fungii assume (perhaps wrongly) that there needs rto be a transitional period where members of the existing blanket voting group will be left in place and then per-project groups will need to be populated by the ptls or their delegates based on which systems they expect to see voting on those projects22:16
mikalIf that just means the group clarkb creates has nova-specs-core (the actual group name) in it, then that would be an easy solution22:16
clarkbit covers permissions there22:16
anteayamikal: thanks I will stow that information until it can be abused in the proper way22:16
anteayamikal: my thanks to you and the responding 4/622:17
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mikalanteaya: we'll get more responses when the other two wake up... Its late in the UK IIRC.22:17
jeblairclarkb: your docs change doesn't address this22:17
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clarkbit should under permissions let me go read22:17
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clarkboh I see it didn't talk about voting everywhere vs voting on specific projects22:18
notmynamedid I see someone talking earlier about the ceilometer dependency bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/139856122:18
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1398561 in swift "pkg_resources.VersionConflict: oslo.config 1.5.0 is installed but oslo.config>=1.4.0,<1.5 is required by ['ceilometer']" [Undecided,New]22:18
clarkbwe did cover that in the meeting though22:19
clarkbbasically nothing changes immediately. everyone can vote everywhere. then over time projects could set up exclusive permissions for verified +/-1 on their project22:19
jeblairclarkb: wow, i think that's backwards22:19
clarkbits what we said in the meeting..22:20
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clarkbthe important bit is we are minimizing the diff22:20
jeblairclarkb: where? i've been trying to find where we talked about that in the meeting22:20
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: add query for hacking vs. oslo.concurrency  https://review.openstack.org/13856022:20
clarkbhttp://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2014/infra.2014-11-25-19.01.log.txt 19:0422:21
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jeblairclarkb: that's just a link to the start of the meeting22:21
clarkband a timestamp22:21
jeblairi've been reading it for 5 minutes and can't find that decision22:21
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jeblairclarkb: the timestamp is the start of the meeting22:22
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clarkbfungi: agreed ; jeblair: that seems reasonable22:22
jeblairclarkb: yeah, then we had like 20 minutes where we talked about revising everything22:22
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clarkbthat wasn't revised22:22
clarkbrevisions were don't need a non voting group22:23
clarkband talk about who should own the voting groups22:23
fungiso the idea was that we could implement self-service account creation now, but add groups to give projects control over granting them voting rights22:23
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funginewly created accounts won't be getting voting rights straight away anyway22:24
clarkbthen later 9:25:22 <jeblair> clarkb: that sounds good; easy enough to change, especially since there's no complicated acls (yet)22:24
fungiwhich gives the projects some time to sets the members they want in those groups22:24
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fungiso the two things happen in parallel, but one isn't explicitly waiting on the other22:25
clarkbthat is in response to ownership but falls into line on not changing acls upfront22:25
jeblairthe word "exclusive" never appears in the irc log22:25
clarkbjeblair: no it was refering to what I said in the etherpad22:25
clarkbjeblair: which maybe should have been more explicit22:25
jeblairclarkb: right, but as we've recently learned, most of the info in the etherpad was superceded and is currently wrong22:25
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clarkbbut not that22:26
jeblairtrying to keep all this straight over an outdated etherpad, a meeting log, and a docs change is quite frustrating22:26
clarkbI understand I should've kept an up to date etherpad with running changes22:26
jeblairlet's try to get it back on track22:26
clarkbI have an arrow pointing to the bit in the current etherpad. Before we go on though do people think that updating the ACLs upfront is something we should do?22:27
clarkband if so what is the argument for that?22:27
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jeblairi want to take a different approach22:27
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: add query for hacking vs. oslo.concurrency  https://review.openstack.org/13856022:28
jeblairi believe that the end state of this system should be that each project manages who can vote on it (exclusively)22:28
jeblairthere may be intermediate steps, but do we agree that is the end goal?22:28
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clarkbthat was never a goal for me no. My goal was to maintain current level of "service" with self serve accounts22:28
clarkbI think that if we want that to be an eventual end goal it is completely independent of the work here22:29
jeblairclarkb: who grants global voting permissions then?22:29
jeblairclarkb: that's currently us.22:29
clarkbjeblair: in proxy for the projects22:29
clarkbjeblair: the projects say yes make that account voting22:29
clarkbso we would just be removing the proxy22:29
fungii saw separate project control over voting rights as an eventual end goal, with the expectation that whatever we do next shouldn't make that harder to achieve (and ideally should make it easier)22:29
clarkbI certainly have never made something voting without the projects go ahead22:29
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fungiclarkb: except indirectly you have, since making something voting in the current situation allows it to vote on all projects when we only really consulted one22:30
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clarkbfungi: right, we sort of hand waved and made people be nice22:30
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clarkband when they weren't we disabled them22:30
jeblairand that's one of the problems we want to solve22:30
clarkbsure, but we can solve that later22:31
jeblairthat's a significant source of the 50 emails a day burden you mentioned22:31
clarkbI don't want to couple these things together otherwise its twice as much work22:31
jeblairclarkb: i'm not sure it is22:31
fungii see making people voting/non-voting and having to disable them because they accidentally voted on things they weren't expected to as things we can avoid wasting our time on in the future, if this is done right22:31
clarkbjeblair: it sort of is because there is an event horizon involved withthat22:31
clarkbjeblair: where once we cross over third party ci breaks until we fix it22:31
clarkbmaintaining status quo doesn't have that problem22:32
clarkbit is a smoother transition22:32
jeblairclarkb: we can create voting groups for all projects, pre-populate them, and turn management of them over to project-release groups22:32
fungiwe should be able to have a transitional period where the all-projects and per-project permissions for vervy -1..+1 are acumulative, right?22:32
fungier, cumulative22:32
clarkbfungi: yes that exactly the situation I want22:32
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jeblairor we could do it that way22:32
jeblairand say that after a certain date, we remove the global ones22:33
fungithat would allow the projects to populate those groups so that we don't have to22:33
* fungi is all for less work for us22:33
jeblairi think that having an intermediate state with exclusive acls is something that we should strongly avoid (it's very confusing and will make a mess)22:33
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jeblairi also think that if we just pre-populated the groups, then it's pretty straightforward from the get-go -- you want a system to stop voting, you remove it22:34
jeblair(otherwise we have a period where removing something from the voting group does nothing)22:34
clarkbjeblair: right thats the situation I describe22:34
clarkbI guess I am no longer sure about why there is confusion22:34
clarkbthe acls come later22:34
clarkbcontrol over who votes comes now22:34
jeblairclarkb: what instructions would you give the current members of $project-release ?22:35
fungiso the questions i think need answering there are 1. for which projects do we create these groups, and 2. which accounts go in each group? i can see a couple possible ways forward on each22:35
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clarkbjeblair: add and remove members of the project-voting-testers group as appropriate for your project voting requirements22:35
jeblairclarkb: but they do not need to be added in order to vote and removing them will not disallow them from voting22:36
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clarkbjeblair: yes they do22:36
clarkbwhy wouldn't they need to be added to vote?22:36
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clarkbfungi: for 1. would start with projects that have third party ci voting against them. Was going to build a list via gerrit comment scraping22:37
jeblairclarkb: because you are proposing that the current voting group remain in effect?22:37
openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Creates a sandbox repo tutorial  https://review.openstack.org/13819522:38
clarkbfungi: for 2. which accounts go in which to start would be based on the scrape, then would be up to individual projects22:38
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clarkbjeblair: but only as a collection point for the subgroups22:38
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clarkbthere would be no direct members after the initial move22:38
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clarkbthis is the thing that makes existing acls work22:39
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anteayanova, neutron, cinder (which programs do we create this)22:39
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clarkbat this point we have mostly the same thing we have today22:39
clarkbthen we can worry about exclusive acls and so on22:39
clarkbat least that was my plan22:39
clarkbI wanted this to be about self service accounts, not a complete ACL overhaul to do a thing we want in that space22:39
fungiclarkb: yep, options seemed to be that, or going by who had registered their accounts and which projects they were testing in the wiki, or shotgun the current membership to each group and let the teams remove the members they didn't care about22:39
jeblairclarkb: that's fine, except that if we're going to the projects and asking them to take on work, then we need to be more careful22:40
jeblairi'm okay with us changing our workflow, i'm not okay making it confusing to projects, or going to them more than once with a change like this22:40
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clarkbwe wouldn't need to go to them more than once22:40
anteayammedvede: where are you located?22:41
jeblairclarkb: can you outline the steps of this process on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/third-party-openid-accounts ?22:41
clarkbonce all the groups are happily managed by individuaul projects we can just add in the exclusive verified acls and everything will continue to work22:41
jheskethclarkb, anteaya: that self-service announce email lgtm :-)22:43
fungiclarkb: i think exclusive will mean that we give them individual control over whether zuul can -1..+1 as well, yeah?22:43
anteayajhesketh: thanks, we are just discussing it22:43
jeblairfungi: which we are absolutely not going to do :)22:44
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fungiperhaps exclusive is less useful, and simply clearing out the global voting third-party ci group is the answer to that22:44
fungiwhen the time comes to flip that switch22:44
clarkbfungi: hrm it might22:45
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clarkbfungi: agreed exclusive not what we want22:45
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clarkbinstead clear out global reqs22:45
jeblairclarkb: did i add the acl step in the right place?22:46
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clarkbI think one line lower is slightly better but its fine there22:47
clarkbeven better with strikethrough22:47
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clarkboh I see no in my plan it happens at arbitrary point in the future22:48
clarkbbecause I don't think we need both things at the same time22:48
jeblairyeah, i'm pushing for right now because i don't think the interim time is useful22:48
clarkbits useful for getting self service accounts working right now22:48
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clarkband separately worrying about ACLs22:48
jeblairi think as long as we have that list of who votes where, we can just make the groups, give them acls, then drop the global third party voting group22:48
jeblairoh i see22:49
jeblairokay, yeah, my line about acls did not belong in your plan22:49
jeblairi think now i understand yours22:49
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jeblairbut i'm still going to advocate for mine -- because i think in yours we have a period where the behavior of the project-testers-voting group is not what we want it to finally be22:50
clarkbit isn't, but it is essentially the behavior we have today22:50
jeblairclarkb: we have to tell people that adding a system to project-testers means adding it to all projects, and then come back later and say, now we made it for each project22:50
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fungiso i saw clarkb's plan as separate (but related) changes announced at separate times first to the third-party testers, then to the project leads22:50
jeblairfungi: that makes sense22:51
jeblairso basically we don't tell the release team about the new group they manage until later22:51
jeblairthe problem is that the ci docs now say that they should ask $project team for voting rights22:51
* anteaya notes that it is k-1, so for screaming from third party now is the time, rahter than xmas or k-222:51
jeblairwhich means we are telling them22:51
fungiwhere the alternative proposal is all at once, with a deadline to get things shaped up in the project-specific groups before voting stops being globally permitted22:51
clarkbjeblair: well we already said ask them in the past22:52
clarkbI guess that is why I think this is a valid intermediate step. Nothing really changes other than being able to get an account via openid22:52
fungiright, current established process is ask project teams for voting rights, and have those teams tell us to add/remove them22:52
clarkbthen we refine22:52
jeblairclarkb: we're changing what we're asking project drivers to do22:52
anteayaclarkb: we said do that, but they didn't and the projects having been keeping up either22:53
jeblairclarkb: currently we ask them to tell us "yes".  you're going to ask them to add systems to a group that gives them global voting rights.  we want them to add them to a group that gives them local voting rights.22:53
clarkbjeblair: but that yes is in proxy the same thing22:53
jeblairclarkb: i do not want to have to explain that to people22:53
clarkbI guess I don't really get the distinction there (other thanthe mechanism)22:53
jeblairclarkb: because we either tell them we're changing the process twice or we lie to them22:54
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clarkbthe process doesn't change for the "drivers" though22:54
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jeblairi don't want to say "add systems to this group and it will give them global voting rights, so be careful.  but next week we'll make it so that it only gives them local voting rights"22:54
clarkbit only changes twice once each for different people22:54
fungii agree that we should go from current (teams ask us to add/remove) process to desired (teams directly add/remove for only the projects in their control) process22:54
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clarkber sorry doesn't change twice for the drives22:55
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clarkbjeblair: oh I don't think we need to say be careful22:55
clarkbbecause thats status quo22:55
jeblairi think we can go straight to the end goal without any more work overall22:55
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clarkbit will just take longer for self service accounts22:56
clarkbwhich we can do22:56
fungii think there is some assumed lag for voting rights with newly-created ci accounts anyway22:56
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clarkbfungi: right but we are already a month or so behind22:56
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clarkbanyways I need to eat since I haven't done that yet. I am fine doing it either way. My intent was to get self service accounts done asap though22:57
jeblairi feel like we can still do this this week22:57
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fungii still think within the next day or two is doable22:57
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fungii also have a 100 lb television to hang about 6' up a wall, so afk for a bit22:58
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jeblairthe really critical thing is to decide on what the group name is.  project-testers-voting, project-voting-testers, (i've seen both) or just project-testers?22:59
clarkbmaybe project-ci if we want to stick with semi existing standards23:00
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fungi"voting" is redundant i think23:02
anteayaproject-testers-voting implies to me there is a non-voting group somewhere23:02
clarkbright, it wasn't before but now is23:02
clarkbanteaya: ya23:02
anteayaI'm for project-ci23:02
anteayawe have trained them to respond to ci23:03
anteayawould be a shame to bring the undefined -testers into the verbage23:03
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clarkbok oslotest is up to date everywhere, bandersnatch appears to be up to date, and hacking has arrived now23:06
clarkbso mirrors are at least temporarily happy and with that lunch23:06
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anteayaany objections if I put project-ci in the etherpad?23:13
* anteaya hears no objections and makes the change23:14
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clarkbjeblair: one question on your plan23:19
clarkband if that works then I can start figuring out how to scrape the info about votes that we need23:19
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openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Adds a link for new developers to use sandbox  https://review.openstack.org/10495123:33
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clarkblooks like I can get the info I need from gerrit api unauthenticated23:36
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anteayaI'm interested in what you find23:37
clarkbso just need a small python script to iterate over all the changes23:37
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heyonglijogo, anteaya , the test cases and our log server is setting up, and will be avaliable to get logs showing on internet soon, maybe ready end of today.23:46
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anteayaheyongli: well done23:47
anteayaheyongli: so do you have an ip allocated yet?23:47
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heyongliour ci had to allocted another ip before all jekins can working. for now, just log server could be show up there.23:48
anteayawell as long as you are no longer blocked23:48
anteayaI always feel sorry for folks doing ci in china since you are behind at least the china firewall23:49
anteayaplus any corporate firewalls23:49
heyongliand the jekins servers and test machines is running on privately now, but we could move on now, anteaya23:49
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anteayaand our testing system was not designed with firewalls in mind23:49
anteayait being open source and all23:49
anteayaheyongli: okay good, glad you can make progress again23:50
anteayaheyongli: any sign of shane wang at all?23:50
heyonglianteaya, yeah, we are working on all firewall, and proxys23:50
anteayaadrian's email said it would be the two of you23:50
anteayaheyongli: you could give a talk on dealing with firewalls23:50
anteayaheyongli: is it just you then?23:50
anteayano shane?23:50
heyonglianteaya, most of time i'm on the channel,23:51
anteayaheyongli: okay, I won't expect him then23:51
heyongliand another guy, juso will be there also, shane is our boss, too busy, sometimes comver me. anteaya23:51
anteayaah alright23:51
anteayamakes sense then23:51
anteayaI'll look for you then when I have questions23:51
heyonglianteaya, another guy is jyuso, also register it's nick and seting up a znc server.23:52
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anteayaawesome, tell jyuso to say hello when he is around23:53
heyonglishane_wang,this nickname is own by our boss23:53
heyonglianteaya, sure23:53
anteayaI see shane isn't online at the moment23:53
anteayaokay are you subscribed to the openstack-dev mailing list?23:53
heyonglijyuso, is the guy who does most of hard work, setting up all of jekins server and ci env.23:54
heyonglianteaya, definitely, we do23:54
heyonglianteaya, and i will setting up a fileter for infra mails.23:54
anteayaso reply to this thread please: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-December/051901.html23:55
anteayaand reply with a time that works for jyuso as well23:55
anteayawe need to find a time for a third party meeting that works for you23:55
heyongliok, let's me check23:56
anteayajhesketh is in australia and will be able to make a good percentage of the meetings23:56
anteayadepending on his social calendar23:56
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