Thursday, 2014-10-09

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morganfainbergJayF, there is... a NC hockey fan?00:01
JayFmorganfainberg: moreso than that, I was born and raised in NC00:02
morganfainbergJayF, ahhh00:02
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fungimorganfainberg: we make do with what we can get here00:02
JayFmorganfainberg: like I said, I'm the endangered species of "native NC hockey fan" that nobody outside of Raleigh believes exist00:02
fungimorganfainberg: though fwiw, most of the players on the team are canadians, same with the rest of the nhl00:03
morganfainbergOh obviously i'm outside of Raliegh, so... I'm suddenlyconfused, by world view might be shifting00:03
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JayFfungi: at least we had Patty O'Sullivan for a season :)00:03
fungithe exception that makes the rule00:04
* morganfainberg goes back to watching the Kings play (SoCal native here)00:04
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JayFfungi: also Josh Wesley was drafted iirc (by the canes, which is kinda cheating, but still)00:04
JayFmorganfainberg: no you aren't watching the kings play :)00:04
morganfainbergtrue not right now00:04
morganfainbergright now i'm staring at IRC00:04
JayFmorganfainberg: that's not for another 2 hours + banner raising. I just hope seeing the banner is burned into Shark memories so we don't choke in the playoffs again (I've since moved to CA and have Sharks season tickets... so yeah)00:05
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JayFmorganfainberg: you have no idea the quantity of smug I was after about 84 games last year (81+3) ;)00:05
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Improve jeepyb.rst content
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Stop statusbot joining #openstack-packaging
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sunil_I am trying to install slave for our CI setup following running into this error:Error: /Stage[main]/Os_ext_testing::Base/File[/opt/nodepool-scripts]: Could not evaluate: Could not retrieve information from environment production source(s) puppet:///modules/openstack_project/nodepool/scripts00:24
sunil_does anybody know whats going on there?00:24
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sunil_somebody reported the same error on Sep 29 on IRC but the chat logs don't show any resolution00:25
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fungidoes jaypipes need to update his blog post to account for the split between the config and project-config repositories maybe?00:25
pleia2or bring it into infra-manual as a 3rd party setup document?00:26
pleia2I'd love to see something more official than a blog post00:26
sunil_is there anywhere I can know more about the split? is there any quick fix I can apply?00:26
fungii keep pressing for that. will be easier to keep updated00:26
fungiblog posts are far too point-in-time for something as dynamic as systems automation software00:27
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pleia2if it's something we want to do, I can work on it00:27
sunil_yeah, but there is hardly anything as good as his post which goes through detailed steps for newbies00:27
pleia2sunil_: indeed, sorry for the meta-conversaion :)00:28
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fungisunil_: probably no "quick" fix other than to dive deeper into the documentation we provide at and learn how these components fit together. that's an unfortunate end result of the "give someone a fish" vs "teach someone to fish" style of documentation00:28
fungirecipes are no subsitiute for learning00:28
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sunil_agreed, but when ou have deadlines, recipes are awesome...:)00:30
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fungisunil_: the official announcement, if it helps:
sunil_where can I get more info on that split you talked about00:30
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sunil_let me have a look00:31
fungiyeah, some info and pointers to more detailed material are in the announcement00:32
anteayasunil_: tell the people giving you deadlines that unless they give you time to work with us and learn what you are doing your system will always be broken or disabled00:33
fungithere are likely channel denizens in apac timezones starting to wake up now who might be around to provide additional guidance. it's unfortunately getting late-ish in the americas00:33
anteayasunil_: so your deadlines are actually creating obstacles for you to accomplish your goals00:33
sunil_yeah, that sounds odd but its true00:34
anteayathe fact you have a deadline doesn't make you unique to the over 100 people in the same situation as yourself00:34
anteayasunil_: spend some time attending the third party meetings and reading the past longs00:34
pleia2aha! I thought I remembered some patch re: 3rd party to manual
pleia2anteaya: would this be a place to transplant jaypipes' docs to?00:35
anteayapleia2: let's bring this up at the infra meeting00:36
pleia2anteaya: ok :)00:36
anteayasince joa actually tried to do that and then abandoned his patch because he was asked to put it in the doc00:37
anteayaI said I would make the patch with the info and never did00:37
anteayamy heart is to put in in infra-manual00:37
anteayabut nothing has gotten merged to that repo since late july00:37
anteayaso I stopped reviewing it00:37
anteayait just fell down the list00:37
anteayaand jim said he wanted it in
sunil_anteaya: I am just beginning in the openstack world. and there is much to read and learn00:38
anteayaI think it needs to come back onto the table again00:38
anteayasunil_: you have had your first excellent realization00:38
anteayasunil_: well done00:38
* anteaya gives sunil_ a cookie00:38
fungiour reach exceeds our grasp where documenting things vs building things is concerned, i'm afraid00:39
* pleia2 gives anteaya a cookie too00:39
anteayasunil_: the best thing you can do is get your manager to give you space to learn what it is you are doing00:39
pleia2ok, off to Ubuntu Hour + Debian Dinner for real now, later all00:39
anteayasunil_: if you had 4 to 6 weeks to learn how to be an openstack contributor00:39
sunil_yeah, agreed00:39
anteayasunil_: you would learn so much about how to operate a third party ci00:39
anteayasunil_: send your boss here and I will tell them00:39
anteayathey might not listen but I am willing to try00:40
anteayasunil_: i'm serious00:40
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anteayaif you don't know what you are doing you are just going to blow up your system and maybe ours00:40
anteayathen i have to chase you down and disable you and you are doing to whine to me about re-enableing your system00:40
anteayait is horribly ineffective00:40
anteayaand I've done it over 50 times with people in exactly your situation00:41
anteayabut it is up to you00:41
sunil_no no...I am not going to do anything which blows up anything00:41
anteayathink again00:41
anteayasunil_: best thing you can do00:42
anteayapush everything off your desk00:42
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anteayastudy this:
anteayafollow every instruction00:42
anteayathis should take you a week or more00:42
anteayaask questions about that document00:42
anteayaafter you have worked your way through the document00:42
anteayaand you have successfully committed patches to the sandbox repo00:43
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anteayathen you can ask about how to set up your ci00:43
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anteayaand you will be able to answer many of them yourself00:43
anteayasince you will by then understand the developer workflow00:43
sunil_yeah, that's where I started00:43
anteayawhat step are you on00:43
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anteayahaev you a launchpad account?00:44
anteayalets see it00:44
anteayapost the url into channel00:44
sunil_hold on00:44
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anteayagreat what it the next step in the developer manual after setting up a launchpad account?00:46
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anteayais 10-09 september 10?00:47
anteayaso is this a month old or an hour old?00:47
sunil_don't was a while ago.00:47
anteayamust be a month old00:47
anteayaokay so launchpad account, next step00:47
sunil_but I did set up everything that I needed to00:47
anteayalets see your gerrit account00:48
sunil_signed all the agreements I needed to00:48
anteayalog in00:48
anteayawhat is your gerrit username?00:49
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anteayahave you uploaded a patch?00:50
anteayaor reviewed anything?00:50
sunil_only against sandbox project to test things to see if I get gerritt events and zuul sees them00:51
anteayais this you?,n,z00:51
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anteayagood now you need to submit a second patchset to the first patch00:52
anteayanot a brand new patchset00:52
sunil_why? does the sandbox project need me to undo removal of random mytest file?00:53
anteayaI'm rechecking this patchset to get you a fresh copy of how the docs will look once it is merged:
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Update README for post config split
anteayasunil_: why submit a new patchset to a patch that is a very good question00:54
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anteayasunil_: I'm glad you asked00:54
anteayasunil_: what project do you want to test?00:54
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sunil_I thought sandbox was a scratch pad sort and I could throw anything at it to test my setup00:54
sunil_I am not sure I am following you00:55
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Better check for pypi mirror host connectivity
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anteayasunil_: right you aren't00:56
anteayasunil_: look over my questions again00:56
anteayaanswer anything you are able to answer00:56
sunil_you mean "[17:54] <anteaya> sunil_: what project do you want to test?"?00:57
anteayawe can start there00:57
anteayaif you would like to answer that00:57
sunil_oh...wait....:) Eventually, I am interested in the neutron project00:58
sunil_I thought you were asking in the context of that commit I submitted for testing00:58
anteayado you know how to find neutron patch in gerrit00:58
anteayaif you don't know, ask00:58
anteayado you know how to find a neutron patch in gerrit?00:59
anteayago ahead00:59
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anteayasearch for neutron patches in gerrit00:59
anteayapost the url of what you come up with00:59
sunil_first on the list:
sunil_submitted on Oct 801:00
anteayathat will do01:00
anteayahow many patchsets does that patch have?01:00
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Remove TESTR_FULL option for running tempest
sunil_anteaya: I need to understand where you are going with this?01:01
sunil_2 patchsets01:01
anteayasunil_: great01:01
anteayaI am trying to help you01:01
anteayayou asked for help, I am helping01:01
sunil_please keep going01:01
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anteayaI am teaching you what you need to know to be an effective third party operator01:01
sunil_I appreciate all the help01:01
anteayathis is my teaching style01:01
anteayaokay then, let's proceed01:02
anteayahow did the contributor submit two patchset to the same patch?01:02
anteayarather than two different patchsets like you did in sandbox?01:02
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anteayaor two different patches like you did in sandbox?01:02 that makes sense. where u were going...:) he amended the change. I just did two different things...I didn't care because it was sandbox01:03
anteayaand for you to be effecting in creating something that tests our workflow01:04
anteayaif you know what our workflow is01:04
anteayayour chances of creating something that tests it effectively increases01:04
sunil_yes, I agree01:04
anteayaso create a second patchset to one of your sandbox patches01:05
anteayaI don't care what the change is01:05
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anteayajust create a second change on the same patch01:05
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sunil_I will do that from home later in the evening...I need to run now.01:06
anteayawe will pick up from this point next time01:06
sunil_but I got the gist of what you have been saying here01:07
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anteayaand me telling you wouldn't have been nearly as effective01:07
anteayaas me asking you questions so that you look for it yourself01:07
anteayaeven if you don't know why you are looking at the moment you are looking01:07
anteayaand I'm glad you have an understanding now01:08
anteayai'm offline for the night01:08
fungiw00t! mrmartin is teh geenius. i have up and running now, poked http/https holes in iptables for my source address and can log in with my openstack foundation credentials and set persistent stuff on my id profile. i think this is working01:08
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add groups portal prod and dev servers to cacti
anteayafungi: well done01:09
anteayaand yay to mrmartin01:09
clarkbfungi nice01:09
clarkbfungi what was wrong with it?01:09
fungiclarkb: nothing was particularly wrong with it that i could tell01:10
fungiclarkb: retrying the launch worked fine01:10
clarkbhuh ok01:10
fungiclarkb: so presumably something went sideways in rackspace or hung puppet agent or who knows01:11
anteayayay for our own openid soon01:11
anteayaI'm out01:11
fungialso, i noticed rackspace had left us nastygrams that they've been rebooting groups.o.o daily due to memory overuse. it's only a 1gb instance so probably undersized and in need of a rebuild, but since it wasn't in cacti ot01:12
fungier, it's hard to tell what's going on with it for sure01:12
clarkbI am on my way home and will check centos7 images when I get there01:12
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add subunit2sql gearman workers
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add subunit2sql server configuraion
fungialso lifted my -2 from 127024 so we can add to cacti01:13
fungiand with that i think i'm probably going to knock off for the night and try to look like i haven't been working this whole time when my wife gets home from class01:14
clarkbkk goodnight01:14
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add centos7 to nodepool diskimage config
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ianwclarkb: ^ any sign of things building?01:41
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openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Consolidated functional test data bootstrap
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Use correct devstack dib element with centos7
clarkbianw: ^ yup and hit that01:45
clarkbmordred: jhesketh SergeyLukjanov fungi ^ a second set of eyes would be good before I self approve01:45
ianwclarkb: damn it, copy paste error :(01:47
clarkbfungi: danke01:47
fungiand yeah, easy to type "nodepool" in that file01:47
openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Consolidated functional test data bootstrap
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Subscription
SergeyLukjanovclarkb, 127107 is lgtm as well01:55
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SergeyLukjanovclarkb, and I'm not trying to race you :) I just like to open 30 reviews in tabs and review them :)01:56
clarkbSergeyLukjanov: :)01:56
SergeyLukjanovfolks, if I'm going to make my own installation of infra, will you recommend to use puppet 3 (vs 2), ubuntu 14.04 (vs 12.04)?01:58
clarkbSergeyLukjanov: puppet3 for sure (puppet2.7 is officially eol and we are completely moved to 3 now)01:58
SergeyLukjanovclarkb, oh, great, will notw01:59
clarkbSergeyLukjanov: We are still mostly precise but should move to trusty in the near future. If you want more garuntees things will work then go with precise. But if you want to get ahead of the curve go with trusty01:59
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fungiSergeyLukjanov: feedback on (and patches for) what's broken in 14.04 would be awesome, but if you want something closer to what we run now then 12.0401:59
fungior what clarkb said01:59
SergeyLukjanovyeah, I see 14.04 on master and 12.04 mostly on all other stuff02:00
SergeyLukjanovfungi, clarkb, thx02:00
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ianw2014-10-09 01:59:28.409 | fatal: unable to connect to
ianw2014-10-09 01:59:28.409 | Temporary failure in name resolution02:03
ianw - bummer02:04
clarkbsilly dns02:04
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Monitor system stats with Cacti
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jeffrey4l_hey guys. I create a new project in stackforge with upstream url. But there is nothing in . The repo is right. does anyone know what's going on?02:22
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openstackgerritKei YAMAZAKI proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add 'only-successful' and 'fingerprint' options to archive publisher
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clarkbjeffrey4l_: ownership wasn't quite right so gerrit couldn't replicate to github, we probably hit an api request limit. I went ahead and fixed ownership so now when you push code to gerrit it should get replicated02:28
openstackgerritKei YAMAZAKI proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add 'only-successful' and 'fingerprint' options to archive publisher
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clarkbjhesketh: 126482, touch is enough to make gerrit do the right thing?02:29
clarkbjhesketh: the commit message doesn't really indicate the method used there02:29
jeffrey4l_clarkb, Got. I will try that.02:29
jeffrey4l_thanks a lot02:29
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add groups portal prod and dev servers to cacti
jeffrey4l_clarkb, I push some new code to the gerrit and merged 5 minute ago ( ), but the stackforge is still empty (
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add syslog tag to os-collect-config logs
clarkbthat is a different repo you linked02:40
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jeffrey4l_clarkb, I have several repo which both have the same issue. So I tried cinder-salt-formula just now~02:43
clarkbok I fixed the first one you linked02:44
clarkbcan you give me the others?02:44
jeffrey4l_OK. hold on.02:44
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jeffrey4l_There are another two
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clarkbjeffrey4l_: ok should be happy now02:49
jeffrey4l_clarkb, kk. I just tried nova-salt-formula, it works now. Thanks a lot. ;p02:50
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clarkbianw: centos7 image build is running now03:15
ianwclarkb: fingers crossed!03:16
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clarkbianw: there are ready images for centos7 in hpcloud now04:10
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clarkbI don't see any ready nodes though. one is building04:10
clarkbianw: the previous nodes hit Exception: Timeout waiting for ssh access04:12
clarkbnot sure yet if that is just coincidence or maybe the image isn't coming out right04:12
ianwclarkb: awesome!  it's a start04:13
ianwclarkb: know if they were ping-able?04:13
ianwdoes it timeout if the key isnt' right (cloud-init failure, etc), or does that give a different error04:14
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clarkbianw: I think timeout is what we expect from cloud init failures04:15
clarkbianw: it unpings and I cannot ssh as my user04:15
ianwclarkb: is unpings a thing, or a typo?04:16
clarkbianw: I mean it does not respond to pings04:16
clarkbya my ssh connection timed out too04:17
clarkbI think that if there are cloud init failures we have seen all sorts of weirdness, but it should boot enough to ping04:17
ianwclarkb: ok ... asking the obvious but is there a console log?04:18
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clarkbianw: there is some way to get it, I am not going to go digging for it tonight04:19
clarkbI can neverremember how to get that via nova client04:19
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clarkboh hey its nova console-log04:20
ianwclarkb: no worries, i can try syncing with you early .au time tomorrow04:21
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* clarkb wais for the next one to finish building really quickly04:21
clarkbnova console-log returns a newline...04:21
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ianwhmm, bootloader maybe?04:24
clarkbya I managed to go to the vnc console really quickly before that node died04:24
clarkband it is unhappy about something booting04:24
ianwthe qcow2 boots for me, but maybe something differs in production04:25
clarkbA start job is running for dev-disk-by\blahblah04:26
clarkbit looks like a bunch of "OK" up to that point04:26
clarkband now (1 of 2) and (2 of 2) of the above is running04:26
clarkbit just timed out waiting04:26
clarkbDependency failed for /boot04:26
clarkband so forth and now dropped to what must be initramfs prompt?04:27
clarkbcentos calls it "Emergency Mode!"04:27
ianwclarkb: arrgh, ok ... first thing i'll do all fresh builds here and see if i can replicate anything like that04:28
clarkbianw: ok. maybe try unsetting release?04:29
clarkbianw: also I hope to publish our dib images in the near future so that you can just grab it and poke at it too04:29
ianwclarkb: yeah, if not, maybe next step is to save the qcow2 somewhere and start poking at it04:29
clarkbbut that requires updates to our apache server on nodepool.o.o that I haven't had time to do04:29
ianwclarkb: ok, well maybe we can figure out a one-off if not getting progress04:30
clarkbya shouldn't be too hard04:30
clarkbthough it is a 2.9GB image04:30
clarkbok back to my regularly scheduled evening. I wish you luck on your end04:30
ianwclarkb: thanks for all your help getting it this far!04:31
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AJaegertransifex has a partial outage - in case you wonder about failing translation jobs ;(06:59
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stevemarAJaeger, we commented at the same time :\07:31
AJaegerstrange - let me check it out...07:32
stevemarAJaeger, i'm still stuck, but i'll pick this up tomorrow, it's getting late on this side of the planet07:32
AJaegerearly here ;)07:32
stevemarit's well past late, but ya know07:32
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AJaegerstevemar, good night!07:33
stevemarAJaeger, good morning :P07:33
* AJaeger was already wondering whether you moved ;)07:33
stevemarAJaeger, i owe you like 6 beers in paris07:33
AJaegerLet's drink them together ;)07:33
stevemaror wine, it being france and all07:33
stevemari'm out for now, see ya !07:34
AJaegerstevemar, see you!07:34
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ashaeronAnyone know if it is possible to generate a pydoc for a function by "inheriting" the pydoc from another similar function?08:43
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AJaegerashaeron, I suggest to ask on #openstack-dev08:45
ashaeronAJaeger: alright, thanks08:45
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AJaegerfungi, we've lost again the gerrit IRC bot ;(09:06
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ttxAJaeger: would you mind proposing translations updates for proposed/juno branches for cinder and horizon ? Today is the day :)10:09
ttxAJaeger: johnthetubaguy was trying to generate them for nova, so you can also lend him a hand10:09
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johnthetubaguyAJaeger: happy to help, but the script isn't working for me, -bash: declare: -g: invalid option10:10
jpichttx, AJaeger: FWIW amotoki told the translators team he would do it at 13:00 UTC today, for Horizon10:10
ttxjpich: oh, great10:11
jpichIn case there are people scrambling to meet the deadline in the next couple of hours :-)10:11
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ttxI knew it was "today", not sure when toiday though :)10:11
jpichThat's fair enough :)10:11
AJaegerttx, for horizon Akihiro will do it - see
ttxAJaeger: ok, so help only needed for cinder and nova10:12
AJaegerttx, I can do cinder and nova...10:12
ttxAJaeger: awesome, thx!10:12
AJaegerttx, what'S my deadline? ;)10:12
ttxAJaeger: asap10:12
ttxcan wait a couple hours10:13
AJaegerttx, anything I have to care about for proposed/juno? Handle it the same as a stable branch?10:13
johnthetubaguyAJaeger: I have got halfway through nova, just hitting an issue10:13
johnthetubaguyAJaeger: although it might be easier if you just run it on your box, which is fine too10:13
ttxAJaeger: my understanding is that running the comands at on proposed/juno will do it10:13
AJaegerttx, yep10:14
AJaegerjohnthetubaguy, let me do it - I have everything set up ;)10:14
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johnthetubaguyOK, cool, setup_loglevel_vars is failing with declare: -g: invalid option10:14
johnthetubaguyduno what that is, so happy for you to do it :)10:15
AJaegerseems to be a bash problem - works fine in the gate adn on my system10:15
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amotokijpich: ttx: I will propose horizon translations 13UTC today as we planned.10:20
ttxamotoki: thx!10:21
jpichamotoki: Thank you!10:21
AJaegerttx, johnthetubaguy any specific commands to give to git review? IT tries rebasing on master and that fails ;(10:23
johnthetubaguyoh yeah, you need to specifiy the branch10:24
johnthetubaguyjust like stable, but the proposed branch10:24
AJaegerttx, johnthetubaguy please check
AJaegerjohnthetubaguy, thanks10:24
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johnthetubaguyAJaeger: it seems to have deleted lots of things, is that what we would expect?10:25
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AJaegerjohnthetubaguy, it should delete files that have less than 20 % translations10:26
AJaegerjust check msgid/msgstr ratio10:26
johnthetubaguyAJaeger: ah, OK, its a kind of trim translations on release10:26
AJaegerjohnthetubaguy, a very recent change to the translation scripts that came to late for Juno - but ttx suggested to apply it for Juno as well...10:27
AJaegerjohnthetubaguy, already imported in master10:28
johnthetubaguyI saw that in the git commits when looking at why the script failed10:28
AJaegerttx, cinder patch is here
AJaegerI'm out for lunch now ;) If anything is wrong, I'll fix afterwards...10:28
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AJaegerttx, visually inspected the deleted files - looks fine to me...10:30
AJaegerjohnthetubaguy, which shell are you using to run the commands?10:30
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johnthetubaguybash, but on mac10:31
johnthetubaguyversion 3.2.53(1)-release10:31
johnthetubaguyits 10.8.5 I am running10:32
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trinathsHi, How to know a Specific CI activity ?11:24
trinathsI mean, How many patches it tested both voting and Non-voting11:24
trinathsany clue ??11:24
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ZZelletrinaths, stackalytics perhaps ?11:26
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trinathsZZelle: True, but It doesn't help me for CI activity. It gives the latest commented CHANGE ID for CI. Not the count of changes it tested ..11:28
trinathsZZelle: Yes I got it, its with the changes to search criteria. Thanks :)11:29
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AJaegerjohnthetubaguy, I'm using bash 4 on Linux. Might be that arrays are not part of bash 3.12:13
AJaegerttx, is everything ok with the translation patches?12:13
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johnthetubaguyAJaeger: gotcha, I guess I should/could brew in something newer, no worries12:13
ttxAJaeger: looks good, reviewing now12:14
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fungiAJaeger: thanks, openstackgerrit should be back now12:26
AJaegergood morning, fungi  - and thanks!12:26
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rfolcofungi, morning. openstackgerrit was down? our zuul reported back without running anything...12:45
fungirfolco: when? uptime seems to be 10 days12:47
krtaylorthe scrollback says "openstackgerrit should be back now", or is that just the irc bot?12:47
fungiopenstackgerrit is nick of our irc bot12:48
krtaylorok, nothing else then12:48
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fungiso i meant it should be back in the configured irc channels on freenode now12:48
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fungiAJaeger had reported it as missing in action earlier12:49
rfolcofungi, any pointers on how to debug/fix our zuul to not report back without running any test?12:49
krtaylorrfolco, I guess we have to look elsewhere then12:49
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fungirfolco: you'd need to show me an example of a review on which it reported and an example layout.yaml12:50
rfolcofungi, zuul log says the patch comes in, it adds to pipeline, and it reports back to gerrit12:50
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fungirfolco: i suspect i know what the misconfiguration is, but would need to see the pipeline configuration for your layout.yaml12:51
fungithere's been a misunderstanding around how files filtering on jobs works12:52
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fungiprobably worth an faq12:53
rfolcofungi, it has been working fine for hours... the problem started more or less 3 hours ago.12:53
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fungiokay, it's definitely not what i was thinking, since you're not restricting jobs by file patterns12:55
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fungirfolco: did you restart zuul around the time the misbehavior started?12:56
rfolcofungi, no12:56
fungiokay, so probably not a new change to the zuul project at fault, since you'd have to restart to pick it up12:56
rfolco126061,11 was good, 127203,1 is the first bad12:57
rfolcofungi, and we locked down (pinned) project-config repo to not update it anymore and break us12:57
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fungirfolco: oh... the one with the empty comment was for a stable/icehouse change12:59
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fungirfolco: on line 29 of your layout.yaml paste, you're configured all jobs to get skipped on stable/havana and stable/icehouse changes13:01
fungirfolco: so zuul literally runs no jobs at all on those changes, and reports back that it successfully did so13:01
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rfolcofungi, that explains.. correct!13:02
rfolcofungi, will change that thanks a lot for your patience!!!13:02
krtaylorthanks fungi13:02
fungii'm looking back through the pipeline options in our ducumentation for a good recommendation13:02
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fungiaha, the "branch" option on the gerrit trigger for your pipeline13:03
fungirfolco: krtaylor:
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fungirfolco: if you restrict branches on the trigger rather than on the jobs, you will only enqueue changes into that pipeline for the branches you want, rather than enqueue all changes and then limit the jobs to run by branch pattern13:04
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fungithe latter is what's causing you to report a successful run of no jobs on stable branch changes13:05
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rfolcofungi, nice catch13:06
rfolcosaved us some debug time, owe_beer++ fungi13:06
fungibest of luck with your systems!13:07
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rfolcothx again13:08
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bradjoneshello infra! Was wondering if anyone can help point me in the direction of getting the openstackgerrit bot reporting in the horizon channel13:41
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fungibradjones: it's just a code review away ;)13:43
bradjonesfungi: thanks, will update now13:44
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fungibradjones: also, gratuitous infra documentation link...
* fungi doesn't want to give the impression that asking in #openstack-infra is the only way to discover this information ;)13:47
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openstackgerritJulie Pichon proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Fix Horizon integration job definition
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openstackgerritBradley Jones proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Added horizon channel
bradjonesfungi: sure is the quickest ;)13:49
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bradjonesfungi: thanks for the help13:50
openstackgerritJulie Pichon proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Fix Horizon integration job definition
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AJaegerbradjones, fungi : Do we need to add the havana channel to accessbot/channels.yaml as well?13:54
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fungiAJaeger: it's not already in there? that surprises me13:55
* AJaeger was wired wrongly ;(13:56
AJaegerI looked for havana, don't know what I smoked ;((((13:56
AJaegerfalse alarm, bradjones and fungi13:56
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fungiyou were just trying to remind me to delete all those stable/havana branches13:56
fungii'll do that now before i forget again. it's been 9 days since i tagged them all and sent the announcement13:57
AJaegerThanks for always finding something good in my mistakes, fungi!13:57
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fungithat's why i'm here!13:59
AJaegerAnd that's why I'm glad to have you here ;)14:00
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/project-config: Fix Horizon integration job definition
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jpichHow long till I can make use of a "new" job definition, after the infra patch merges?14:12
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fungijpich: that merge will get picked up in the 14:15 utc puppet apply pulse in a minute, and then it takes around 15 minutes for the job updates to get established on all the jenkins masters14:14
fungijpich: so you could try rechecking an affected change around 14:30 utc14:14
jpichfungi: Super, thank you :)14:14
fungiyou're welcome!14:14
ttxfungi: weird set of 00000 jobs in post pipeline14:15
ttxtriggered roughly 13 min ago14:15
ttxany idea what that is for ?14:16
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AJaegeranybody tagged some branches or releases?14:16
fungittx: i think that's zuul reacting to my stable/havana branch deletions14:16
ttxah, yes that would do that14:16
fungithose should all fail miserably14:16
fungibut i'll keep an eye on one or two and make sure they aren't wreaking some sort of unanticipated havoc14:17
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AJaegerfungi, once you have some idle time, I would appreciate a review of - this might need more rebases otherwise. This is creating and using two new templates in layout.yaml14:23
openstackgerritEric Harney proposed a change to openstack-infra/git-review: Fix ---list and "departement" typos in man page
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fungiAJaeger: i'll have a look once i'm done getting stuff prepped for the tc election tomorrow14:26
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AJaegerfungi, nothing critical - just me avoiding rebases ;) Take your time, TC elections are far more important14:27
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openstackgerritBradley Jones proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Use local timezone for the updated column
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fungi#status note upgraded all pypi mirrors from bandersnatch 1.5 to 1.6.1 for
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ttxclarkb: catching up on the gerrit-powered agenda status14:58
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ttxclarkb: lbragstad removed some of the check/gate logic, apparently after discussion that jenkins would do it14:59
ttxwhich confuses me a bit15:00
ttxlbragstad: you around ?15:00
lbragstadttx: o/15:00
lbragstadttx: I removed most of that logic since it didn't seem like something the average enduser would be concerned about15:00
ttxwe still need the code to do that, though ?15:01
ttxi.e. checking for meeting conflicts ?15:01
lbragstadttx: yes, that is still done by gerrit-powered-agenda15:01
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clarkbWe had talked about making a two step publish process. first step compile second step push to wiki via authenticated slave.15:01
lbragstadthat step could use the meeting object API to check for conflicts15:02
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ttxhmm, ok, I'll dive a bit more I guess15:02
clarkbthough I think check/gate should look for errors as early in the process as possible15:02
ttxlbragstad: I was about to prepare a change to produce a single .ics15:02
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ttxbecause currently it builds one .ics file per meeting15:02
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ttxwhile currently we have a single one with all meetings15:03
ttxlbragstad: any reason for not doing it in a single file ?15:03
lbragstadttx: when we originally met with the capstone group I thought each meeting was to be represented as a single .ics file?15:04
ttxlbragstad: ah, probably a communication error then15:04
lbragstadttx: I apologize about that15:04
ttxIf we want to preserve the gcal experience, we should let people subscribe to a single ics with all of them15:05
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ttxit's an easy fix15:05
ttxjust wanted to make sure the current situation wasn't done on purpose :)15:05
ttxwill give me a nice intro to the code.15:05
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lbragstadttx: I think that could be done with a flag, unless you outputting a single .ics with all meetings to be the default behavior15:07
lbragstads/you/you think/15:07
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ttxwill do!15:07
lbragstadclarkb: fwiw, we check for conflicts before writing/converting anything and bomb out early15:08
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lbragstadttx: don't hesitate to poke at me if you need anything, I can also pick up something if you need me to.15:08
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lbragstadttx: clarkb note on the project: in June mrodden and I were going through and doing a little bit of a rewrite and discovered an issue with namespaces/imports, which lead us to rename the project to arbiter ( mrodden came up with the cool name).15:10
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corvusfungi, clarkb, mordred, SergeyLukjanov, jhesketh, ttx: hi there15:30
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anteayacorvus: welcome back15:30
anteayajeblair: how was vacation?15:30
ttxjeblair: o/15:30
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fungibtw, everything fell over as soon as you left, so we all just gave up and drank for the past week and a half15:33
jeblairanteaya: excellent, thanks.  i saw some amazing things and ate delicious food.  i stood in a prairie at 14,000 feet with mountains towering over me.15:33
anteayathat sounds awesome15:34
jeblairanteaya, fungi: related to that, i also learned that multi-lingual drinking games are HARD.15:34
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anteayasounds like tibet15:34
fungijeblair: especially when it involves shochu?15:34
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fungi(or whatever the local variant is)15:34
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jeblairanteaya: it's culturally, but not administratively, tibetan15:35
anteayawish it was both15:35
anteayabut yay culturally tibetan15:35
anteayasounds very spiritually refreshing15:35
jeblairthe aba prefecture15:35
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* anteaya looks it up15:36
jeblairi'll let you know when we have some pictures up15:37
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anteayajeblair: I can't wait for your pictures15:39
anteayajeblair: did you see temples?15:39
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anteayathe internets say there are lots there15:39
jeblairanteaya: yes indeed.  we visited one that was surrounded by a particularly high number of prayer flags15:41
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anteayaoh lovely15:41
anteayaI feel vicariously spiritually refreshed just hearing about it15:42
anteayathank you15:42
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zhiyanfungi: hello, may i ask a quick question, i'm not sure why this failure happened in this test , actually the change passed pep8 and dsvm-full checks. thanks.15:45
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jeblairfungi: know anything about a server?15:47
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zhiyanfungi: oh, i got it. nvm.15:49
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clarkbjeblair welcome back15:55
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fungijeblair: hrm... that doesn't ring a bell15:56
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jeblairclarkb: thanks!15:56
jeblairfungi: i noticed it's spamming me because it does not have a dns entry15:56
fungijeblair: also seems to be not reachable15:56
fungichecking in our tenant then15:57
jeblairmordred: know anything about a server that thinks it is called
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fungijeblair: it's definitely in our openstackci tenant in rackspace15:57
jeblairfungi: is there a created date?15:58
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fungier 2014-01-2715:58
mordredhrm. didnt we have a storyboard-dev server ages ago?15:58
jeblairmordred: never that i'm aware of.15:59
fungiappears we've had a storyboard-dev server *since* ages ago ;)15:59
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fungi(at least 9 months anyway)15:59
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jeblairit's not in puppet or dns; i think it should be deleted15:59
anteayadid it start spamming as a result of the rax restarts?15:59
fungii'm happy to delete it now15:59
mordredI agree15:59
anteayawas that a week ago?15:59
jeblairanteaya: quite possibly15:59
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fungiperhaps it was shut down and got inadvertently activated during the rackspace rolling outage16:00
anteayaa gift for your return16:00
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fungianyway, deleting now16:00
jeblairanteaya: yes, that cron spam was one gift of many :)16:00
anteayawoooo, everything is excited you are back16:01
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mtreinishman we run a lot of tests...16:04
clarkbmtreinish just a few16:04
mtreinishI've been running subunit2sql off the gerrit stream since about midnight and it's already at >2.2 M tempest tests executed16:05
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mtreinishincluding a bunch of tests I've never seen before16:05
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mtreinishclarkb: well they were all from manila and other projects where they're writing tests outside the tempest repo...16:15
clarkbfungi I dont know if you saw but late last night the centos7 image was having boot failures. ianw is debugging (ianw's local image does boot with kvm so currently a bit stumped)16:18
clarkbmay try publishing that inage some how to further aid debugging16:19
fungiclarkb: yeah, saw that in the scrollback16:19
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clarkbianw also pinged karanbir late last night but didnt seem to know why that was happening16:25
clarkbapparently the base image we start with is the same as what is used in hpcloud16:26
clarkbso dib may be doing somethibg funny16:26
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zaroclarkb, fungi : we really need to update gearman-plugin.  the one currently installed doesn't work.16:26
clarkbzaro huh?16:27
clarkbI thought we decided it does work16:28
clarkband we could not reproduce what hashar saw16:28
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fungi(modulo that one eventual consistency bug you were ironing out)16:28
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fungioh, right, you determined that was probably just a delay waiting to lock you were seeing?16:29
fungior possibly some sort of event batching in jenkins?16:29
clarkbya event batching16:29
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clarkbzaro is there a change up somewhere with bugfixes?16:32
clarkbI am happy to upgrade the plugin but need more infoos16:33
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zaroclarkb: i guess we didn't test enough.  i took a closer look and was able to repro.  fix is up,
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openstackgerritAaron Rosen proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Congress enable nonvoting py33 test
zaroclarkb: i think i forgot to test one additional case with that change, changing node labels.  i'll need to do that and fix up hashar's nits16:36
openstackgerritpatrick-crews proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adding tripleo-ci files to be indexed by logstash
clarkbzaro can you also explain somewhere what is broken?16:37
clarkbmy testing indicated saveable listener had not changed16:37
clarkband I spent a lot of time in the jenkins source trying to disprove that16:38
fungior were we always technically broken there but behavior in prior versions merely masked it?16:39
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openstackgerritAaron Rosen proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Congress: enable nonvoting py34 test
clarkb(that change has changed significantly since I first reviewed it. I will try rereviewing soon)16:41
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AJaegerclarkb, fungi: What do you think of getting the bashate fixes into the config repo?
openstackgerritAaron Rosen proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Congress: enable nonvoting py34 test
pleia2AJaeger: can I borrow you in an hour or so to ask some questions about how the translations workflow currently works with transifex+ci and stuff? (been looking through some scripts but probably faster just to ask higher level questions)16:43
openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Rename config => system-config
openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Rename config => system-config for nodepool
openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Rename config => system-config in tools/
openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Rename config => system-config in README
AJaegerpleia2: sure, shoot...16:44
pleia2AJaeger: in another meeting now, but an hour from now?16:44
AJaegerpleia2: ping me and let's see whether it works ;)16:44
pleia2k :)16:44
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jeblairpleia2: clarkb also has knowledgablenessity about this16:46
fungiAJaeger: i'm not opposed to 118944 but don't have time right now to review hundreds of lines of whitespace changes16:46
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pleia2jeblair: I asked him yesterday, fungi suggested picking AJaeger's brain16:46
fungii just know AJaeger has written a fleet of recent improvements to it16:47
clarkbI can chat too but will be DMVing in near future16:48
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pleia2clarkb: woo, happy OR license day16:48
zaroclarkb: will do, but basically i could not get some of the events to fire when making changes to projects.  for example creating a new project (from a copy) or updating projects thru the REST API.16:48
AJaegerfungi: understood...16:49
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zaroclarkb: also jenkins no longer polls the jobs folder for changes.  if you change config.xml files underneath jenkins won't automatically update with those changes. you need to specifically tell it to reload.16:50
AJaegeranteaya: yes, you need to rename the checks - otherwise the jobs will not work at all16:51
anteayaactually the jobs didn't work when they were renamed16:51
anteayaas I had renamed them in the first patchset16:51
flaper87mmh, for some reason there's no member in the zaqar-milestone group and I, obviously, can't add myself.,access16:51
flaper87anyone with enough power can add me to that group?16:51
flaper87please :)16:51
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fungiflaper87: done16:52
AJaegeranteaya: did you rename projects.yaml also? You need to change both files16:52
flaper87fungi: cheers16:52
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AJaegerpleia2: see also - I documented the script a bit better (the common file has much better documentation)16:53
anteayaAJaeger: I'll look at that, I'm trying to stay lightly doing stuff while waiting on electoral things16:54
anteayaso yeah, only giving this about 20% of my attention now16:54
pleia2AJaeger: yes, that was helpful16:55
AJaegerpleia2: but ask - and then let's document further if needed ;)16:55
AJaegerpleia2: We could as well write finally a wiki page with details :)16:56
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zaroclarkb: i can't get gearman-plugin on jenkins-dev to connect to zuul-dev.o.o17:03
zaroclarkb: i see that there's a gearman process running on zuul-dev but i can't seem to telnet to it.17:03
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fungizaro: seems to be listening only on :: not
fungizaro: i can 'nc :: 4730' and get a socket, but 'nc 4730' seems to be refused17:07
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mordredfungi: who needs when you have :: ?17:09
fungimordred: indeed17:10
jedimike:: always makes me think, "haha, a static ip!"17:10
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pleia2AJaeger: ok, around now, I'm going to start with the stupid questions :) this page is horrible and doesn't actually tell me what projects even have translations, help!
pleia2I guess I need to sign up for an account?17:11
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fungizaro: looks like the configuration may be in need of updating. the gearman status shows no workers at all, not even the merger (which is also running). i even stopped them and started them again17:11
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zarofungi: yeah, it's because the gearman plugin isn't connected to gear server on zuul-dev.  connection is refused17:12
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openstackgerritpatrick-crews proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adding tripleo-ci files to be indexed by logstash
fungizaro: oh, for that matter, the zuul-server process has a defunct child from immediately after i started it. looking in its logs now17:12
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fungizaro: and the logs are empty17:13
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fungizaro: so, yeah, probably the config/layout haven't kept pace with changes in master and need to be revisited17:14
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AJaegerpleia2: I'm ready as well.17:16
AJaegerlet me check the transifex page.17:17
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AJaegerpleia2: use
zarothanks fungi, i'll look into updating the puppet so gear server will work again.17:18
AJaegerthat should work without an account.17:18
pleia2oh, there we go!17:19
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AJaegerpleia2: Let's go one step back: What's the background of the questions? What is your goal?17:19
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pleia2AJaeger: right, so we're looking to replace transifex (hopefully next cycle) so I need to understand how we're doing things now so I can understand what I need to focus on with pootle and zanata functionality17:19
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AJaegerpleia2: finally ;) I'm aware of those efforts17:20
pleia2we have pootle and zanata demos up now, but evaluation has kind of stalled because I don't have great instructions for the translators about how they can evaluate them17:20
AJaegerWhat do you think of using this etherpad - and documenting everything there17:20
AJaegershall we use the etherpad chat, then?17:21
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jedimikewe're getting hit by when building new nodepool images, can't compile openvswitch module, anyone here seen that before?17:21
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uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1379201 in openvswitch "openvswitch-datapath-dkms 1.4.6-0ubuntu1.12.04.3: openvswitch kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,Confirmed]17:21
j^2So i’m seening a lot of merge conflicts in openstack-chef; but all the error says is “Patch in Merge Conflict” and no link to see the conflict. Is there a way to see whats broken?17:21
arosen1Hi, anyone hitting this error today? I'm wondering if it's related to having python-six installed from packages and pip (and my system is using six from packages). Jenkins upstream though has python-six installed as a packages too though.17:22
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clarkbj^2 you can run the rebase locally17:22
clarkbgit rebase -i origin/master17:23
j^2should i abandon the review then? or if i push up another review would it get out of that state?17:23
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clarkbpush a new patch with conflicts resolved17:23
j^2clarkb: rock on, thanks!17:23
arosen1hrm i moved from /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages on my box so the one from pip is used and that fixes the issue.17:27
arosen1it seems like the depenency of python-debian and six prevent us from really uninstalling it unless we use some nodeps option17:28
fungiarosen1: running in a virtualenv with ststem site-packages enabled i take it?17:29
fungier, system site-packages17:29
ameademtreinish: Hey, i'm trying to override the value for OS_TEST_TIMEOUT in our CI system but devstack-gate does not pass along environment variables into the tox command17:30
ameademtreinish: so it continues to use the default in tempests .testr.conf17:30
ameademtreinish: Right now I have a crazy hack in local.conf to get around it but I'm wondering if there is a better way17:30
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arosen1fungi:  this is an issue i hit with the python-openstackclient; devstack just does sudo python develop; and just runs it like that; so i'm supprised we don't hit this in the gate either.17:32
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vishydo we have any statistics on how long a single recheck takes on average and how long a single reverify takes on average?17:34
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fungijogo: ^ ?17:34
clarkbvishy test time is captured in graphite17:34
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clarkbbut not time from comment to comment17:35
fungimy guess is he's asking whether anyone has run time series analysis or anything17:35
vishybecause according to jogo’s email we have about 5 rechecks per patchset17:35
fungihuh? looked like he said average was ~0.7 rechecks per patchset17:35
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clarkbbest case is about 50 minutes. worst case depends on day17:35
fungiunless i misread his e-mail17:35
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clarkbfungi that is how I read too17:36
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vishyfungi: it said per revision17:36
vishyunless he misstated17:36
fungivishy: oh, you're multiplying by the average patchset count per change17:36
clarkbpatchset == revision17:36
fungigot it17:36
vishyok 5 rechecks per change before merge17:37
fungion average for nova over the course of the past 6 months, sounds like17:37
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clarkbyup. and doesnt account for blind rechecks but thats fine17:37
vishyso that is 8700+ hours spent in rechecks over the past 6 months17:38
fungithose are likely statistically insignificant anyway17:38
vishyjust for nova17:38
fungi(the blind rechecks i mean)17:38
clarkbfungi no they are very significant17:38
clarkbI think blind rechecks are majority of rechecks17:38
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vishyby blind you mean a recheck when we don’t know what the source of the bug is?17:38
fungii assumed you meant rechecking just to see if a change had regressed17:39
clarkbvishy no I mean dev didnt debug -1 at all17:39
clarkbjust rechecked17:39
mtreinishameade: hmm, yeah getting an env variable passed on the way down get's tricky17:39
fungiclarkb: oh, his methodology did try to account for that17:39
clarkbfungi it did?17:39
fungiclarkb: he ignored rechecks where at least one of the same jobs failed on the subsequent run17:39
mtreinishameade: I thought there was a way to get env variables shared by the tox env17:39
mtreinishclarkb: ^^^ do you remember?17:39
clarkboh cool I missed that17:39
ameademtreinish: I know how we can make it work but not sure that is the answer17:40
ameademtreinish: we just add -E to the sudo command17:40
clarkbmtreinish the issue is d-g does not pass env through sudo17:40
fungivishy: so, yes, that estimate doesn't sound especially surprising17:40
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mtreinishah, ok17:40
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fungivishy: particularly if taken in context as percentage of overall time spent running jobs17:40
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fungiwhich i would guess is somewhere around an order of magnitude higher17:41
clarkbpep8 failed resulting in recheck happens way more than you expect :( but if jogo filtered that that is great17:41
fungibut having numbers around that too would help17:41
fungivishy: hopefully that is time spent by developers hacking on all their other changes in parallel though, not sitting on their thumbs because they work on only one thing at a time17:42
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clarkbhrm need to clarify with jogo17:45
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openstackgerritJaime Flynn proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added flexible publish support
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jogoclarkb: ?17:53
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clarkbjogo was hoping you might have collected numbers on the rechecks you excluded17:55
clarkbmaybe broken out by job too17:55
jogoclarkb: ahh17:56
jogoI didn't break out by job, but that would be easy to do17:56
jogomost rechecks are valid though17:56
jogovalid == the failed jobs before don't show up after17:56
clarkbI think that contradicts what sdague found in the past which maybe means we are getting better17:57
jogoclarkb: I have some data for you, one moment17:57
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j^2is this a known issue? fatal: unable to connect to  ?18:05
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j^2for reviews18:05
j^2sorry forgot to put that in18:05
pleia2j^2: we see it sometimes, bug 135298718:06
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1352987 in openstack-ci "fatal: unable to connect to" [Medium,Triaged]
fungij^2: i don't know what you mean by "for reviews"18:06
j^2pleia2: nice thanks18:06
j^2fungi: our reviews when attempting to merge are failing on unable to connect18:06
fungij^2: care to link to an example?18:07
fungij^2: you mean the jobs run on them after they're approved sometimes fail with that error?18:07
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fungij^2: ahh, yep, looks like a dns resolution error on a worker in rackspace dfw18:09
fungij^2: did you witness a rash of these recently?18:09
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pleia2AJaeger: you are AMAZING, thank you so much for taking the time to document this with me today :)18:09
j^2fungi: yep, more or less all morning18:09
pleia2(wiki page incoming, it will be awesome)18:10
fungirunning some correlations now18:10
j^2fungi: awesome thanks :)18:10
AJaegerpleia2: you're asking great questions - and documenting this was overdue...18:10
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vishyfungi: obviously people can multitask but I think a big part of the slow review process is because we can’t do these things quickly. It makes the back and forth between reviewers and patch submitters take exponentially longer because you can’t go back and forth multiple times quickly. People lose track of things because of the long cycle times.18:12
SergeyLukjanovjeblair, hey!18:12
fungij^2: yep, there have definitely been a higher number of those today than over the preceding week, and all in rackspace18:12
jogoclarkb: that list stops at the first failure before and after18:12
j^2fungi: lovely, should we hold off and then do recheck no bug on anything effected by it?18:12
j^2like in a few hours?18:13
fungivishy: i totally agree with that. hopefully as devs start to focus more on fixing the bugs causing most of that the situation will improve dramatically18:13
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vishyfungi: yes fixing gate bugs and removing unnecessary gating tests18:14
fungij^2: not sure... i'm looking to see if rackspace is admitting to any ongoing issues today with their networks18:14
vishyhopefully we can make some serious progress on that during the kilo cycle18:14
clarkbjogo stops at the first one?18:14
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jogoclarkb: first failed job18:15
jogoso if py26 and 27 failed it only shows 26718:15
mtreinishjogo: ah, ok that explains all the unit test failures. I was going to say that people recheck on the unit tests way more.18:15
jogojust fixed and re-running18:15
clarkbjogo oh gotcha first per recheck18:16
fungij^2: nothing of note posted on but it does look like it's improved dramatically in the past couple hours18:16
j^2fungi: cool cool, thanks for the update18:16
clarkbfungi maybe unbound broke again?18:16
fungiclarkb: maybe. now that you mention it, seems to be all precise nodes18:17
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fungiclarkb: though it's possible that the error message git provides has changed between precise and trusty and so my search is being too specific18:17
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fungiclarkb: also not really hitting devstack, mostly just bare and py3k18:19
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fungii grabbed a random bare-precise node in rax-iad and can resolve from the command line on it fine though18:20
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fungirepeated the same commands being run in the example failure log and got no errors. working as designed18:22
fungiso whatever it is, it's intermittent or has since ceased18:22
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fungialso resolv.conf and unbound configuration look correct18:24
mtreinishameade: yeah, so I expect there is probably a good reason that we don't pass the env through sudo18:24
fungiclarkb: i'm going to guess it's random udp datagram loss through some part of their network18:25
mtreinishbut if there isn't, then I suppose that's a change you could propose18:25
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clarkbthere is18:25
fungimtreinish: ameade: by default sudo sanitizes the calling environment because not doing so is a security risk18:25
clarkbwe donr want to make d-g a dependency of tempest18:25
clarkbthis has come up before18:26
openstackgerritJaime Flynn proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added flexible publish support
mtreinishclarkb: ok, yeah I think I remeber that now that you said it18:27
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AJaegerpleia2: please check - I've added markup and add some more text18:28
AJaegerpleia2: over to you for any polishing you like to do - or extra questions...18:29
ameadeclarkb, mtreinish: I'm not clear on how that makes d-g a dependency for tempest18:29
pleia2AJaeger: thanks, I'll add some links to scripts on git.o.o too in order to help people find their way18:30
clarkbameade it is not a direct dependency but allows you to do what you are trying to do. then you must always override tempest defaults18:30
clarkbat that point you are dependent on d-g or sonethibg else to properly configure your environment18:30
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AJaegerpleia2: Great!18:32
jogonow with all failed jobs18:33
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jogoa lot of py26 jobs18:33
AJaegerpleia2: Let's enhance the bot so that it includes a link to the wiki page - might help the projects to understand what's going on...18:33
AJaegerpleia2: I'll send an email to the i18n mailing list to inform them about the page...18:33
jogomtreinish: ^18:33
pleia2AJaeger: sounds good18:34
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mtreinishjogo: yeah it's still looks like mostly unit tests18:35
openstackgerritYathiraj Udupi proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Add kafka-python dependency needed for ceilometer kafka publisher
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jogomtreinish: yeah18:38
jogothat is for nova btw18:39
clarkbjogo is it the same 800 change span?18:39
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jedimikebit of a warning here: precise upgraded the kernel from 3.2.0-69 to 3.2.0-70, if you upgrade, your openvswitch installation will stop working18:41
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anteayajedimike: good warning18:42
jedimike is open for it with the symptom and cause18:42
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1379201 in openvswitch "openvswitch-datapath-dkms 1.4.6-0ubuntu1.12.04.3: openvswitch kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:42
jogoclarkb: that was 1600 or so changes I think, all in nova last 6 months18:44
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/project-config: Congress: enable nonvoting py34 test
jogoand not sure what the exact number of patch revisions is18:44
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jogobut a lot18:45
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jedimikeanteaya, it's been causing us headaches today with devstack testing, doesn't look like there's much option but to pin the older kernel for now18:45
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clarkbjedimike upgrade to trusty18:52
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pleia2AJaeger: I can't find this (or anything named similarly): "openstack-generate-doc-book (part of openstack-doc-tools repository)"18:53
jedimikeclarkb, yes, I'd very much like to :)18:53
AJaegerpleia2: openstack-doc-tools/os_doc_tools/ is the file and when you run python install, a script openstack-generate-doc-book is created (see the setup.cfg file)18:54
pleia2AJaeger: aha, I'll edit to make that more clear18:54
bookwarwe'd like to add some functionality to docimpact tag handling, can someone direct me to the source code for this hook? search for docimpact on github didn't show anything useful18:56
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AJaegerbookwar: it's in jeepby18:58
AJaegerbookwar: jeepyb/jeepyb/cmd/notify_impact.py18:58
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Script to generate a unique address list for ATCs
fungianteaya: tristanC: ^ that may be helpful19:01
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fungianteaya: tristanC: i'm including its output along with the normal csv file dump in an e-mail to you in moments19:01
pleia2AJaeger: so is tools/generatepot similar to openstack-generate-docbook, and so both would actually land in tools/ and be called openstack-generate-pot & openstack-generate-docbook respectively?19:01
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AJaegerpleia2: the goal was to move tools/generatepot to openstack-doc-tools but the final step is missing...19:02
AJaegertools/generatepot is openstack-generate-pot19:02
pleia2hm, so is openstack-generate-docbook actually tools/generatedocbook ?19:03
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AJaegerpleia2: there's no tools/generatedocbook anymore but previously it was the same19:03
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anteayafungi: nice job on the comments in there19:04
pleia2ok, is prettified with links19:04
anteayalike following the bouncing ball in kids sing-a-long videos19:05
anteayamy kind of comments19:05
fungianteaya: yeah, it's more a demonstration with some code than a serious piece of software19:05
anteayaI like it19:05
fungianteaya: that was driven out of making sure the extra-atcs don't get extra-votes ;)19:06
anteayawhich script removes jenkins and the openstack lists?19:06
anteayathank you!19:06
fungianteaya: that would still be a manual removal19:06
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anteayaokay, I would have looked for it anyway19:06
anteayabut good to know19:06
bookwarAJaeger: ia it ok to add "[doc]" tag to the bug title? we'd rather make it configurable, but i am not sure if you let us put this much configuration into project.yaml :)19:06
AJaegerpleia2: thanks!19:06
AJaegerbookwar: please talk with annegentle19:07
fungianteaya: and it's just those two addresses which jump out at me, skimming the list for anything matching 'openstack\.org' which i don't already know to correspond to an actual human being19:07
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anteayaI'll look as well but yes, those two are on my radar19:08
anteayahopefully we don't have others19:09
fungianteaya: ideally we would code review an additional list somewhere of these which the script also pulls in, call it "robot-atcs" or something like that. i just wouldn't hard-code those contributor addresses into any of the tooling19:09
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openstackgerritAdam Gandelman proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Run sideways ironic greande only on juno branches
anteayafungi: that sounds like an idea19:14
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openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Consolidated functional test data bootstrap
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pleia2jogo: are you in town next week? doing an e-r lightning talk at the summit and could use some slide review (when I write them), could do online if not19:24
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openstackgerritAdam Gandelman proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Adds ironic grenade forward testing
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fungianteaya: tristanC: rolls have been sent to you19:27
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fungitasty, hot, buttery electorate rolls19:27
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fungii think the next iteration on the script should leverage gerrit's rest api rather than relying on a database dump... i think that's actually doable, and should make it possible for anyone to generate the same information without assistance19:29
anteayafungi: yum electoral rolls19:31
anteayaI'm still editing the wikipage19:31
anteayaonce i finish I will move to going over the rolls and thank you19:31
anteayathat sounds like a good direction19:32
anteayathe might also free you up on the creation end19:32
anteayathough I would still verify with you19:32
fungii could even have it output a cryptographic checksum of the data we could record for reference19:32
anteayathat would be great19:32
anteayaall offical like19:33
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fungii'll noodle on that... it's a few months before i need to worry about it again, i hope (so long as no one abdicates easry)19:33
anteayai hope the same19:35
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stevemarsomething going on with check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-icehouse ?20:02
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AJaegerpleia2: thanks for mkaing the wiki page nice!20:03
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stevemarsomething alone the lines of 'connection to /var/run/openvswitch/db.sock failed'20:03
anteayaokay done the latest pass:
anteayaI hope folks are reading as we go along20:05
anteayagetting hefty20:05
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jogopleia2: yeah I'll be in town next week20:06
jogopleia2: we can do f2f20:06
anteayaas usual, if anyone spots an error of fact or an omission let me know so I can fix20:06
anteayaI'm going to take a walk now and will be back in a few hours20:06
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pleia2AJaeger: sure thing :)20:17
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pleia2jogo: great20:17
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fungistevemar: you could search on for that to see if it's common and whether it happens on successful runs as well as failures. if it's common you could try spotting a likely bug on the elastic-recheck page20:19
stevemarfungi, i checked ER page, nothing really came up20:20
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fungistevemar: looks very bursty on the 7-day graph in logstash20:22
jogocan someone remove my from sqlalchemy-migrate-core20:23
jogoremove me from*, gerrit won't let me do it20:23
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openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard: Integration Testing
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fungijogo: done20:24
stevemarfungi, i've had 3 of the same error in the last hour or so20:24
stevemar'ERROR neutron.agent.linux.ovs_lib [-] Unable to retrieve bridges. Exception'20:24
stevemar, and
jogofungi: thanks20:25
stevemarlet me check log stash for that one20:25
clarkbcould that be related to the thing jedimike pointed out?20:25
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fungistevemar: digging in logstash, it cropped up in the icehouse backward-compat jobs for changes on master with the first occurrence at 17:07 utc today20:26
fungistevemar: before that, we saw similar errors in tripleo jobs on the 5th, but nothing between then and when this cropped up a few hours ago20:26
stevemarseems suspicious -_-20:27
fungistevemar: clarkb: yes, sounds very much like what jedimike mentioned above20:27
fungistevemar: bug 137920120:28
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1379201 in openvswitch "openvswitch-datapath-dkms 1.4.6-0ubuntu1.12.04.3: openvswitch kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,Confirmed]
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stevemarfungi, silly question, how did you find the bug? it's not on the ER page20:28
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fungiclarkb: should i delete all today's precise devstack images?20:28
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clarkbfungi I dont think so. it will just break again20:29
fungistevemar: jedimike linked it earlier. it's not an openstack bug and nobody's added it to e-r20:29
clarkbwe need a proper fix20:29
clarkbmaybe nodepool script kernel pin?20:29
clarkbthen rebuild?20:29
openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Consolidated functional test data bootstrap
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fungithough i guess we could also add an effects task on openstack neutron20:29
stevemarohhh, I'll try to add it to e-r?20:30
stevemarminus the ?20:30
fungistevemar: go for it20:30
fungii've added neutron to that bug, for tracking purposes20:31
openstackgerritKhai Do proposed a change to openstack-infra/gearman-plugin: update to work with Jenkins LTS ver 1.565.3
zaroclarkb, hashar: ^20:32
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hasharzaro: hi!  I hope my comments earlier today made some sense20:36
hasharzaro: I don't know Java at all nor do I know about the jenkins api / architecture :(20:36
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zarohashar: yes, thanks for reviewing. i just replied to your comments.  i'm not sure how we are currently getting it to work in our env.20:38
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zarohashar: maybe it's because we build our slaves only daily and build them fresh every time :)20:39
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fungijhesketh: mikal: if either if you are around yet, turbo-hipster went off the rails when i deleted nova's stable/havana branch earlier today20:45
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hasharzaro: you also commented about different testing scenarios.  Can they be made actual tests or is that too much hassle?20:46
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hasharzaro: will read the new patch tomorrow and might well give it a try on monday (it is holiday in US apparently so that is convenient)20:50
zarohashar: well.  i know the code to register functions works and we do have tests for that.  it's the jenkins events that stopped working as expected so would i be testing the event system?20:51
stevemarfungi, silly question, whats the syntax of the search for logstash? (project and build status)20:51
zarohashar: what? i didn't there was a holiday!  you french know more about us than we do :)20:52
fungistevemar: i usually just search on the failure message and then add columns for things like project and build status to get a quick birds-eye view for sanity20:52
fungistevemar: but the syntax is lucene
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stevemarfungi, ah okay like gerrit20:53
hasharzaro: oh miight be mistaken :]20:53
zarohashar: just checked, columbus day.  not really a holiday, not one anybody has to stop working for anyways.20:54
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hasharzaro: ah we refer to it as IIndigenous People's Day :D20:54
hasharzaro: got it for testing the event system. Probably not much that can be done on that front20:55
stevemarfungi, OK now i'm getting somewhere :)20:55
fungiwe celebrate the hegemony of barbaric imperialist invaders subjugating native peoples everywhere20:55
mtreinishzaro: I'm taking Monday off :)20:55
stevemarTIL log stash20:56
zaromtreinish: celebrating with the indigenous people?20:56
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mriedemwe probably shouldn't even have a pep8 job for sqlalchemy-migrate:20:57
mriedemthe project has rejected patches to get pep8 to pass20:57
mtreinishheh, no just taking a few days off. It just happened to be columbus day20:57
stevemaryou can become canadian for a day and celebrate canadian thanksgiving on monday20:57
fungii can't think of a better reason to be canadian for a day20:58
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openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for bug 1379201
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1379201 in openvswitch "openvswitch-datapath-dkms 1.4.6-0ubuntu1.12.04.3: openvswitch kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,Confirmed]
stevemaryay my first ER commit (maybe)21:01
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ianwclarkb: hey, as you noticed, no repo ... i rebuilt my images using and it boots OK with kvm locally21:01
ianwclarkb: so two things, first are there any logs of the build available21:02
ianwclarkb: and two, if we can get the built image somewhere public, i can import that fairly quickly into an openstack instance and see if it happens there21:03
clarkbianw yes publicly too at http://nodepool.openstack.org21:03
clarkbfungi ^ thoughts on how to publish a 2.9GB image?21:03
clarkbI am currently at deq so hard for me to do that21:04
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waynranyone have advice for setting variables in a shell script but also allowing that script to contain '{}' characters? (jenkins-job-builder)21:06
clarkbwaynr escape the {}s by doubling them up21:07
clarkbso {} becomes {{}}21:07
waynrclarkb: thanks21:07
clarkbianw find the logs?21:07
ianwclarkb: yep, thanks, should have realised they were there ... old centos7 images did have a separate partition for /boot, which seems involved.  digging to see if something related21:08
ianwclarkb: yeah "Using locally cached"21:11
ianwclarkb: is d-i-b on nodepool updated?21:11
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clarkblol "broken"21:11
clarkbit isnt latest dib. iir21:11
clarkbI can fix that later21:11
ianwclarkb: yeah, i think that's the issue21:11
clarkbok thanks21:11
clarkbwe need an explicit install for it then21:12
clarkbright now nodepool gets it as a dep21:12
clarkbianw you can write that change if you like21:12
clarkbor I can in a bit21:12
clarkbabout to get car registered in a new state21:13
ianwclarkb: at vmware, the main build spits out "esx-broken-foo" ... but it was short for "broken-out" as it was split out of something else once and stuck.  caused constant confusion21:13
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ianwclarkb: ok, i'll have a look now21:13
fungiclarkb: we probably ought to publish images on swift with cdn fronting, ideally21:13
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fungiclarkb: given they're large and relatively static21:14
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clarkbfungi++ that is an excellent idea21:14
ianwfungi / clarkb : happy to have a look at that in short-term future21:15
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fungiclarkb: ianw: also if our service providers had a mechanism by which we could mark those images we upload public, then we could also publish the latest uuids for them as a convenience (so users of those providers don't have to download and reupload them to use them). no idea if that's even remotely possible though21:17
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fungiin glance itself, i mean21:17
clarkbhpcloud does but you need extra bits like canonical have iirc21:18
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mtreinishdhellmann, jeblair, fungi, clarkb, etc.: can you guys take a look at
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mtreinishit's more procedural, because we're already installing it in devstack on every run22:00
mtreinishbut we can't add it to a requirements list and use it until that lands22:00
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fungimattoliverau: do you help maintain the turbo-hipster ci?22:14
fungiif not i'll give jhesketh a few more minutes to suck down his coffee22:15
mattoliveraufungi: Yeah, but not as much as jhesketh.. aka I have access and can poke :P22:17
jeblairmtreinish: lgtm22:17
mtreinishjeblair: cool, thanks22:17
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fungimattoliverau: you might want to disable it before i do22:18
fungimattoliverau: and then possibly see what needs to be done to get it to stop trying to check out the stable/hava branch i just deleted upstream earlier today22:18
fungier, stable/havana22:19
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openstackgerritSergey Lukjanov proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Grant sahara-core to rebase changes in sahara
openstackgerritSergey Lukjanov proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Grant sahara-core to rebase changes in extra sahara projects
fungimattoliverau: or leave that second part to jhesketh22:20
jeblairfungi: huzzah!22:22
fungijeblair: yes, there was much rejoicing22:23
fungijeblair: other tidbits you probably won't find in meeting logs from while you were out...22:23
openstackgerritKhai Do proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: fix delete job command
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Install latest diskimage-builder on nodepool
openstackgerritSergey Lukjanov proposed a change to openstack-infra/project-config: Add sahara buildimages jobs for two more plugins
jogokrotscheck: ping22:24
fungijeblair: the zuul pipeline precedence was adjusted to make gate high like pre-release/release/tag, so that check could be at normal and everything else low (this prevented merge-check spikes from delaying check jobs starting)22:24
ianwclarkb /fungi : ^ hopefully that's what you were thinking for nodepools d-i-b?22:24
jogokrotscheck: you are one of resident UI experts right?22:24
fungijeblair: we upgraded all the jenkins masters because of a ton of security vulnerabilities they announced22:25
krotscheckjogo: That’s what the sign on the door says.22:25
mtreinishjogo: oh, good call get krotscheck to makes all the dashboards :)22:25
* krotscheck doesn’t actually have a door.22:25
krotscheckWait a sec, did I just get volunteered for something?22:25
fungijeblair: which left us with maybe a weird situation with job registration for node label changes in the gearman plugin, zaro and clarkb have been hacking on that but it's been basically non-impacting for us22:26
jogokrotscheck: so mtreinish and fungi  and I were talking about
jogoand I was thinking if I could get the bits and pieces together, maybe you could help make the UI itself22:26
fungijeblair: also i upgraded bandersnatch on all our pypi mirrors with the latest release in hopes of squashing the hang-on-teardown issue we were seeing causing the mirrors to go stale (though there's also a mitigation for that in place involving timeout+flock)22:27
jogokrotscheck: this is  a very rough idea right now though22:27
krotscheckjogo: Sure, can you find a couple of resources to take over for me on StoryBoard while I switch over to doing dashboards?22:28
zarofungi: i'm not sure how it even works :/22:28
jeblairfungi: oh, was check or gate at low priority before?22:28
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jogokrotscheck: I can try to use it and file bugs maybe22:28
* krotscheck is reading the thread.22:29
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jeblairjogo: post-merge and periodic aren't really the same thing22:29
jogokrotscheck: I was thinking make a functional but ugly version first22:29
jeblairjogo: i think there are actually 3 cases we're dealing with:22:29
jogojeblair: ok, so I am at a bit of loss for terminology here22:29
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jeblair1) post -- something that runs in response to a specific change merging22:30
krotscheckThis feels almost like a puppetboard for gerrit-ish things.22:30
jeblairthat includes things like documentation publishing, translation updates, updating the branch tarball, etc22:30
* jogo looks up puppetboard22:30
krotscheckjogo: puppetboard.openstack.org22:31
fungiianw: other than a typo i marked inline, yes i think so22:31
jeblairideally, they should actually report back to gerrit, but since gerrit does not include the merge commit sha in the change-merged event, we don't have the info needed for that22:31
jeblairto correct that situation, we should patch gerrit22:31
jeblairit should not be an extensive change22:31
fungijeblair: gate was at normal, check was at low, so we basically shifted gate and check up a notch22:32
jeblair2) low-priority periodic jobs -- something we run daily (current periodic jobs)22:32
jeblair3) continuous -- somewhere between the two -- we run as often as practical in order to narrow the window of breakages22:33
jeblairjogo: ^ all of the preceeding was addressed to you :)22:33
jogojeblair: right, so I like the terminology here too22:34
krotscheckRead-only dashes aren’t that hard.22:34
jeblairjogo: i think that perhaps rather than depending entirely on logstash and graphite (both of which have a loose coupling with zuul) we should use the mysql reporter for zuul and build the dashboard from that22:34
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Install latest diskimage-builder on nodepool
jogojeblair: so I was thinking a read only dashboard for things that do not report on gerrit22:35
jogomysql reporter for zuul?22:35
jeblairjogo: iow, zuul should be able to provide its own dashboard of runs it has triggered, since it has all of the information necessary (once recorded in mysql)22:35
jogojeblair: that sounds even better22:36
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jogois the mysql reporter an idea or a working thing?22:36
jeblairkrotscheck: ideally yes, it should be a different process; currently the zuul webserver is built-in.  no one has moved it out yet.  i don't think it needs to be a different project though (at this point), just a different process.22:37
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krotscheckjeblair: Seems sane. I don’t know that much about zuul yet, but it’s not like there’s anything impossible left on this planet.22:38
jogojeblair: so one of the benefits of using graphite for this is, there is a lot of great tooling already built a round it22:38
krotscheckjeblair, jogo: What kind of a timelilne are we looking at here?22:38
jeblairjogo: i think we might augment it with graphite and logstash, but i think we should not depend on it or logstash because of the too-loose coupling22:39
jogojeblair: why is the loose coupling a concern?22:39
jeblairjogo: with a mysql db, we can have assurance we know each success, failure, timestamp, and log url for each run22:39
mattoliveraufungi: I have turned off TH voting while I take a look at the issue22:40
jeblairjogo: because zuul does not require either of them, and does not even know about one of them22:40
jogojeblair: so using mysql db instead of logstash would be nice22:40
jogobut being able to build a time series and an alert from graphite is really powerful22:40
jeblairjogo: i'm not saying it isn't.  i _do_ think you should use it to build graphs22:41
jogojeblair: and mysqldb to get the specific details22:41
jeblairjogo: but i'm saying the part that lists what the jobs are, what the latest result is, and the result history for each run should be built from local data22:41
fungimattoliverau: thanks!22:41
* krotscheck idly drops into the graphing conversation.22:41
jogojeblair: agreed, using a mysql db for that would be wondeful22:42
jogokrotscheck: we need more bubble charts22:42
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jeblairwhy are more than one result set showing up in the javascript ci tables in gerrit?22:43
jogojeblair: I see the building the list of specific jobs etc and building the general tracking as two equally important parts22:43
anteayastevemar: are you canadian?22:43
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jeblairjogo: yes, we need both22:44
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fungijeblair: sdague is trying to refine the "experimental results mask check results" issue with the table. that's an iteration in that direction aiui (pipeline names mentioned in the result comments are working into this next)22:44
anteayastevemar: I can't imagine many non-canadians knowing about thankgiving being on monday22:44
jeblairfungi: but it's showing results from old patchsets22:44
jeblairfungi: cf
jeblairfungi: only the last one is relevant22:45
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jogojeblair: so this came up in part because of the rough roadmap to continuous testing22:45
jeblairfungi: also, experimental results did not mask check results22:45
jogojeblair: and what the status of that is, so besides a dashboard. what is the status?22:45
jeblairjogo: yeah, i think we need to get the dashboard up.  there may be some small changes to zuul after that, but mostly the dash.22:45
jeblairjogo: i think first step in the dash is to get the mysql reporter merged and start using it22:46
jeblairjogo: (so we have data to work with)22:46
jogojeblair: can the mysql db include links to the logs?22:46
jeblairjogo: maybe clarkb or fungi would be interested in reviewing
fungijeblair: those are all results from the most recent patchset22:46
stevemaranteaya, i hope so, we almost shared a back to toronto 2 conferences back :P22:46
fungijeblair: indicating all the rechecks performed on it22:46
fungijeblair: i think the concern expressed was that "voting" experimental job results look the same as voting check results when mashed together into one table22:47
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jeblairjogo: i think it should, or at least, the information needed to construct it.  i'm not sure whether the current revision of that patch includes it22:48
fungiand the other concern it was attempting to address is people recheck-spamming a semi broken change until they get a passing grade22:48
fungiwhich does show in the comments, but is not immediately obvious when glancing at the results table22:48
anteayastevemar: did we, did I know you are canadian and forgot?22:48
anteayaI can't imagine forgetting22:48
jeblairfungi: ah yes, you are right they are all for the current patchset.  however, it was a deliberate choice for it to show only the most recent test22:48
anteayastevemar: where are you?22:49
jogofungi: won't continuous jobs not  be tied to patchsets?22:49
jogoerr jeblair ^22:49
anteayastevemar: now I remember, d'oh, you have been hanging in keystone22:49
jeblairjogo: i meant the current revision of the patch to add the mysql reporter22:49
stevemaranteaya, you did forget :O we talked about how ford was a bum, there ya go!22:49
anteayastevemar: I didnt' connect the dots, sorry about that22:49
jeblairjogo: as in, if it doesn't include the necessary log data, we should add it22:49
anteayastevemar: yeah, you showed me your great backpack22:49
fungijeblair: i'm happy to approve a revert of that change as well. i'm more or less ambivalent on it as a design element but sdague was quite eager for that22:50
anteayastevemar: faces and nicks don't always match in my brain, sorry about that22:50
jogojeblair: but the schema isn't useful for continuous jobs22:50
jogoI think22:50
stevemaranteaya, haha, keystone is where i spend most of my days, i've been dabbling in infra lately, trying to not increase the work load for you all22:50
jeblairfungi: yeah, i was happy with what i discussed with sdague about it, i just thought that it would show only the most recent of each set (eg, most recent check and most recent experimental, with timestamps of each)22:51
jeblairjogo: what about the schema is not useful?22:51
anteayastevemar: and we are so grateful!!22:52
anteayastevemar: thank you22:52
fungijeblair: i think the roadmap he had included getting it to collapse all but the most recent result from each pipeline on the patchset with a click-on-header toggle to expose22:52
jeblairjogo: yes, you are right.  perhaps that should be -1'd with the comment that it should accomodate periodic jobs better22:52
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jeblairfungi: i think i would have preferred a 'one step forward' approach rather than 'one step backward and one step forward'.  is anyone working on this while he's gone?22:52
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fungijeblair: yeah, i think clarkb had the pipeline patch in progress...22:54
jeblairjogo: but yeah, the columns should be a superset of the different types of changes in the zuul model so it would work for 'ref' updates and plain old branch-tip testing too.  i don't think that will be hard.22:54
fungijeblair: aha,
fungijeblair: i hadn't approved because i wasn't sure if he was ready for it to go in yet22:54
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clarkbya pipeline names are up for review22:55
jeblairi read that change and immediately said "i think it would read better if we said 'Check build succeeded'".22:56
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jeblairand then i went to read sean's comment that prompted the second patchset22:56
jeblairthough the point about it reading as an imperative is well taken :)22:57
jogojeblair: where can I find the list of types of zuul changes?22:57
fungiyeah, english--22:57
jeblairjogo: zuul/model.py22:57
jogosearching for 'branch-tip' in docs didn't work22:57
jeblairjogo: i think the timer may emit NullChange objects right now, though it should probably emit Ref changes with appropriate values.22:59
fungialso, worth noting, we triggered post jobs for all the branch deletion events today, with a commit hash of 0000000... (the jobs thankfully all failed to check out that commit, so no lasting effect)23:00
funginot sure if it's worth special-casing the zero-hash and making zuul ignore those23:01
fungii think it's done this on previous branch deletions as well23:01
fungiso probably a long-standing behavior at this point23:01
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jeblairjogo: (right now, i think branch selection in periodic jobs happens in the job itself; if we made the timer trigger a little more sophisticated (eg, have it emit ref objects) we could have the branch selection in zuul which would give us nicer data for dashboard/reporting)23:01
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jogojeblair: nice23:02
jeblairfungi: very long standing, and yeah, would be easy to ignore (though it should be configurable; it's conceivable you would want to run a job on branch deletion)23:02
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jogojeblair: so it sounds like with a few minor things we get all the data needed to report information about specific jobs23:05
jeblairjogo: yup!23:05
jogojeblair: what do you think is needed w.r.t graphite23:05
jogojeblair: as in what kinds of graphs23:05
jeblairjogo: and we can expose zuul's data with json23:06
jogojeblair: I was thinking a way to automatically generate success/failure rate graphs per job23:06
jeblairjogo: that should already be in graphite23:06
jogojeblair: you mean the data from mysql?23:06
jeblairjogo: yep23:06
jogojeblair: right, now what data we need  for graphite as I think we have it all, but what graphs would we want23:07
jeblairjogo: yeah, i think job success/failure rate over time is the main one23:07
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jeblairjogo: (zuul's data will tell you what jobs to check in graphite, so you can automatically make a graph for each job)23:08
jeblairjogo: (kind of like the pipeline sparklines on the status page)23:08
jogojeblair: maybe graphite has that too23:08
jogobut pulling that from zuul makes more sense23:09
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jeblairjogo: we keep data longer in graphite than we keep jobs in zuul23:09
jeblairjogo: so if you iterated over all the jobs in graphite, you'd have way more than we're actually interested in23:09
jogojeblair: exactly23:09
jogojeblair: renames and all23:09
jeblairjogo: yep, so getting the jobs from zuul and trends from graphite seems the best mix.23:10
jogois there a REST call to list active jobs today?23:10
jogoor would this come from the JSON output from the mysql thing23:10
jeblairjogo: only thing today is the status json endpoint; i'm imagining this comes from the mysql thing23:11
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jogojeblair: right23:12
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jogojeblair: so I am going to start playing around with what types of graphs we may want. I think there may be two23:13
jogolong and short term23:13
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jogolong = {3-6}.months, short = {2-14 days}23:14
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jeblairjogo: ++23:17
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jogojeblair: cool, time to relocate. I didn't realize how close we were to getting this up23:18
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-dev/pbr: tests: factorize has_opt handling
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-dev/pbr: autodoc: allow to exclude modules from auto-generation
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Install latest diskimage-builder on nodepool

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