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| mordred | seems to have worked | 00:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Creates a publishing job for the infra-manual repo https://review.openstack.org/89421 | 00:01 |
| clarkb | mordred: gerrit hit an application error when I tried to approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86261/ the first time around | 00:01 |
| mordred | mgagne, clarkb: who should be the initial member of python-jenkins-core? | 00:01 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Make docker py26/py27 gates voting https://review.openstack.org/86042 | 00:02 |
| clarkb | mordred: could that be related to manage-projects? | 00:02 |
| clarkb | mordred: probably jeblair | 00:02 |
| mordred | jeblair: done^^ | 00:02 |
| clarkb | mordred: and maybe james page? I think he was the original maintainer but may not be interested | 00:02 |
| clarkb | not sure what sort of hand off we are doing | 00:02 |
| mordred | well, I just added him too. I'll leave the rest to him and jim | 00:03 |
| mordred | clarkb: and I'm not sure why manage-projects would cause app error | 00:03 |
| clarkb | neither am I. I wouldn't expect it to | 00:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Creates a publishing job for the infra-manual repo https://review.openstack.org/89421 | 00:04 |
| * mordred is declaring manage-projects fixed - although would like to figure out making the run shorter | 00:04 | |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/jeepyb: Improve message posted when inactive changes are abandoned https://review.openstack.org/86261 | 00:04 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Run rally ./exercise.sh inside post_test_hook https://review.openstack.org/88682 | 00:05 |
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| anteaya | mordred: well done | 00:05 |
| anteaya | mordred: maybe we could add the logging clark suggested to find out what step(s) is/are taking so long? | 00:06 |
| clarkb | sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87056/ is a simple one that you can review | 00:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add non-voting python33 jobs for the JJB project https://review.openstack.org/87817 | 00:11 |
| * mordred is disabling puppet on review.o.o to time something with manage-projects | 00:11 | |
| clarkb | k | 00:11 |
| clarkb | btw I think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/83057/ is ready but I can't babysit now (I need to afk tonight) and would probably be good to have confirmation from red hat tripleo that they are ready | 00:12 |
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| clarkb | so that we can debug any issues together | 00:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add python33 Jenkins job to check and gate tests https://review.openstack.org/88025 | 00:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: py33 is not targetted for graffiti currently https://review.openstack.org/88139 | 00:20 |
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| jogo | clarkb: 1286963 has hits for success not failure | 00:23 |
| jogo | so false positives | 00:24 |
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| clarkb | jogo: for test failures but that is a legit derp I think | 00:25 |
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| clarkb | jogo: but not all occurences of it will result in failures | 00:25 |
| jogo | clarkb: kk will update | 00:26 |
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| clarkb | jogo: at this point we have the local resolvers on all slaves so that number should go to zero | 00:26 |
| clarkb | and if it doesn't we should look at it more | 00:26 |
| clarkb | NobodyCam: I can't seem to get a floating ip when building an image | 00:27 |
| clarkb | NobodyCam: and the state of the queued jobs in tripleo indicate something is still unhappy | 00:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Remove queries for fixed bugs https://review.openstack.org/88465 | 00:27 |
| clarkb | will have to look later though. I need to AFK and interact with people and stuff | 00:28 |
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| mordred | clarkb: with github processing turned off and no new projects to process, it takes manage-projects 2.5 minutes to run on review.o.o | 00:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Move status stylesheets into css file https://review.openstack.org/84921 | 00:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Add in sparklines to status page pipelines https://review.openstack.org/84922 | 00:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Tweak job layout css in status page https://review.openstack.org/84316 | 00:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Adjust change headings on status page https://review.openstack.org/84317 | 00:31 |
| clarkb | mordred thats all acl stuff probably | 00:32 |
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| jesusaurus | in the jjb scp publisher, what is the target path relative to? | 00:32 |
| clarkb | to the root path specified in global jenkins cfg | 00:33 |
| mordred | clarkb: yup | 00:33 |
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| jogo | so one of nova's dependencies now needs numpy | 00:40 |
| jogo | and it has to be compiled for a venv | 00:40 |
| clarkb | gg | 00:40 |
| jogo | so 'tox -r -e*' is mad slow | 00:40 |
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| jogo | since installing numy requires compiling C | 00:41 |
| mordred | jogo: make a local wheel mirror | 00:41 |
| clarkb | if you install C deps does it just link instead? | 00:41 |
| mordred | I'm _Certain- that it does not | 00:42 |
| jogo | clarkb: I tried apt-get install python-numpy and the venv didn't see it | 00:42 |
| jogo | mordred: how do I make a local wheel mirror? | 00:42 |
| mordred | jogo: you want to investigate the "pypi-mirror" command | 00:42 |
| mordred | that we use to build the openstack mirror - the tripleo guys all use it to make local mirrors for theselves too | 00:42 |
| mordred | it makes a wheel mirror as well as a non-wheel mirror | 00:43 |
| mordred | but if you have wheels, it'll speed things up | 00:43 |
| mordred | because you won't have to compile anything anymore | 00:43 |
| mordred | except for the first time | 00:43 |
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| mordred | clarkb: .transifexrc keeps changing on proposal.slave.o.o - is that expected? | 00:53 |
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| clarkb | no, unless the jobs are updating it :( | 00:54 |
| mordred | http://puppetdb.openstack.org/report/proposal.slave.openstack.org/2e197e06852451608fcf93202b3d4df866c902f7 | 00:55 |
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| clarkb | mordred: probably worth running puppet agent --test --noop against the host at some point to see the diff | 00:57 |
| clarkb | I am going to guess that one of the jobs is updating the file | 00:57 |
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| mgagne | anteaya: sorry, I was on the road. I commented on your change, I had a new idea on how this could be addressed. | 01:04 |
| mgagne | anteaya: and jeblair might need to step in to check if my alternative solution makes sense (or not) | 01:05 |
| anteaya | mgagne: thanks | 01:17 |
| anteaya | quite the novel, thank you | 01:18 |
| * anteaya picks up her tea | 01:18 | |
| anteaya | if we introduce a new jjb variable, that would need to be a patch to the jjb repo, correct mgagne? | 01:23 |
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| anteaya | I would like to hear some cores weigh in on your suggestions before I offer another patchset | 01:25 |
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| anteaya | I like your first suggestion: doc-publisher-folder: manual | 01:26 |
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| jogo | mordred: got a different apprach, just using pip wheel and devpi-server | 01:27 |
| jogo | since already have a devpi-server | 01:27 |
| anteaya | when I am leaving an inline comment in gerrit how do I make code look like code? | 01:27 |
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| jhesketh_ | just a public service announcement that the CFP's for PyCon Australia closes this week (http://2014.pycon-au.org/) | 01:28 |
| mordred | jogo: awesome | 01:29 |
| lifeless | jhesketh_: thanks | 01:29 |
| anteaya | a space | 01:30 |
| clarkb | jogo will that wheel all deps? | 01:31 |
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| clarkb | having all deps as wheels is amazing | 01:31 |
| jogo | clarkb: yeah it is | 01:31 |
| jogo | clarkb: so I use a devpi-server running to cache things | 01:31 |
| jogo | so ideally I want something to build wheels on the fly | 01:32 |
| jogo | but I just set up pip to use a global wheelhouse (/tmp/wheelhouse) | 01:32 |
| jogo | and using pip wheel to build stuff | 01:32 |
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| Alex_Gaynor | jogo: pip wheel -r global-requirements.txt is a good way to seed your wheelhouse :-) | 01:33 |
| jogo | Alex_Gaynor: oh good idea | 01:34 |
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| jogo | maybe I Should move the wheelhouse out of tmp as well | 01:34 |
| mgagne | anteaya: there is no need to patch JJB. there is already a template variable mechanism in JJB which openstack-infra/config make use of. Any arbitrary variable can be declared and used. | 01:34 |
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| anteaya | woohoo | 01:34 |
| Alex_Gaynor | jogo: I keep mine in ~/.pip/ fwiw | 01:34 |
| mgagne | anteaya: sorry for delay, I'm off to buy a pizza, bbl | 01:34 |
| StevenK | Mmmm, pizza | 01:35 |
| anteaya | you don't have to keep apologizing for having a life | 01:35 |
| anteaya | I envy you | 01:35 |
| anteaya | grateful for your help | 01:35 |
| anteaya | I am 6 hours between rounds of moving water around in my basement | 01:35 |
| anteaya | trying to stay up for a few more so I can get a full night's sleep tonight (almost) | 01:36 |
| * jogo runs 'pip wheel -r global-requirements.txt' | 01:36 | |
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| clarkb | anteaya do you need a pump? | 01:37 |
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| jogo | Alex_Gaynor mordred: is there an offical doc on setting up ones dev env? | 01:38 |
| Alex_Gaynor | jogo: I can tell you what's in my pip.conf | 01:38 |
| Alex_Gaynor | jogo: http://bpaste.net/show/222813/ | 01:38 |
| anteaya | clarkb: I have a pump, what I need is permission to use it | 01:38 |
| anteaya | I won't bother you with the silliness that is trying to convince my father to fix things so they are automatic | 01:39 |
| clarkb | jogo the wiki has a page for nova | 01:39 |
| anteaya | it is just depressing | 01:39 |
| anteaya | so right now it is shop-vacs | 01:39 |
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| jogo | clarkb: doesn't sounds like a great home for it | 01:39 |
| * jogo now has a wheel for 'wheel | 01:39 | |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 01:39 |
| anteaya | 3 levels is what I want to hear about | 01:40 |
| anteaya | I tweeted about pycon.au and got a melbourne hip hop artist following me | 01:41 |
| anteaya | anybody like hip hop? | 01:41 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/requirements: Bump minimum requirement for dogpile.cache https://review.openstack.org/84200 | 01:42 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Support XenServer in the gate https://review.openstack.org/80241 | 01:42 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Set *_DEVSTACK_BRANCH in grenade's localrc https://review.openstack.org/89405 | 01:42 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: usability improvements to test-functions.sh https://review.openstack.org/86292 | 01:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Move import checks into there own file https://review.openstack.org/89454 | 01:55 |
| mgagne | anteaya: sorry to hear about your water problem, is the water clean at least? | 01:58 |
| anteaya | the water coming in is clean yes | 01:59 |
| anteaya | runoff from snow | 01:59 |
| anteaya | I just want to sleep through the night again | 01:59 |
| anteaya | I like sleep | 01:59 |
| mgagne | anteaya: sleep :D what is this strange concept you are talking about ^^' | 02:00 |
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| mgagne | what the hell is this "thing" that is the new twitter profile layout... | 02:01 |
| anteaya | I only saw jaypipes profile so far | 02:04 |
| anteaya | magazine layout it looked like to me | 02:04 |
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| mgagne | mine looks like facebook... | 02:08 |
| mgagne | https://blog.twitter.com/2014/coming-soon-a-whole-new-you-in-your-twitter-profile | 02:09 |
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| anteaya | that is a lot of work | 02:10 |
| anteaya | I mean trying to consume that | 02:11 |
| anteaya | if I wanted that format I would be using a different tool | 02:11 |
| anteaya | just give me the list | 02:11 |
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| anteaya | working on my bio for my pycon.au talk | 02:12 |
| anteaya | jhesketh: should I say I like it in Australia? | 02:12 |
| anteaya | no, probably not | 02:12 |
| jhesketh | anteaya: why not? :-) | 02:13 |
| anteaya | hahaha | 02:14 |
| anteaya | jhesketh: are you on the review committee? | 02:15 |
| cody-somerville | anteaya: You're planing to go to PyCon AU? | 02:15 |
| anteaya | I just submitted a talk proposal | 02:16 |
| jhesketh | anteaya: I was the co-organiser last year, this year lifeless and I are organising the miniconf | 02:16 |
| anteaya | that is as far as I have gotten in my planning | 02:16 |
| jhesketh | I may be on the papers committee, but I don't think so (ENOTENOUGHTIME :-() | 02:16 |
| anteaya | should I not have submitted? | 02:16 |
| anteaya | I can withdraw | 02:17 |
| cody-somerville | When is the CFP deadline? | 02:17 |
| anteaya | jhesketh: /nod | 02:17 |
| jhesketh | anteaya: you should be able to amend your proposals too | 02:17 |
| anteaya | Friday | 02:17 |
| jhesketh | cody-somerville: Friday | 02:17 |
| anteaya | jhesketh: yes I have the edit button | 02:17 |
| * jhesketh remembers hacking that into zookeepr years ago | 02:17 | |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add Gertty project https://review.openstack.org/89457 | 02:17 |
| anteaya | jhesketh: thanks for the edit button | 02:19 |
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| mordred | jeblair: ++ | 02:19 |
| jhesketh | anteaya: heh, just don't blame me for how terrible zookeepr is | 02:19 |
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| mordred | jhesketh: I blame you | 02:21 |
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| jhesketh | it's okay, you're allowed to mordred | 02:22 |
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| mordred | jhesketh: dude. you think I'm not in it already? | 02:23 |
| anteaya | ha ha | 02:23 |
| jhesketh | touché | 02:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add Gertty project https://review.openstack.org/89457 | 02:27 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: does gertty have a url? | 02:31 |
| anteaya | so far duckduckgo wants me to look at things related to getty | 02:31 |
| mgagne | anteaya: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/gertty/0.0 | 02:33 |
| jeblair | anteaya: like with source code? no, there is no public repo, not yet. i'm trying to create one. :) | 02:33 |
| mgagne | anteaya: no code yet | 02:33 |
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| mgagne | jeblair: so now we went from a potential custom JavaScript UI over Gerrit API to a Console UI :D | 02:33 |
| jhesketh | is the console UI developed or just the repos being set up? | 02:34 |
| jeblair | mgagne: let a thousand flowers bloom? :) | 02:34 |
| mgagne | jeblair: I suppose ^^' | 02:35 |
| anteaya | ah you are cooking this up | 02:36 |
| jeblair | jhesketh: i have a local functioning version; i'll push it up after the repo exists. | 02:36 |
| jhesketh | shiny | 02:36 |
| anteaya | when you quoted from the README, I thought this was an existing project | 02:36 |
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| anteaya | I won't fault duckduckgo for failing to index code still on your local env, jeblair | 02:38 |
| jeblair | anteaya: that's the main feature of duckduckgo! :) | 02:38 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 02:38 |
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| jogo | sdague: got a --skip-slow flag | 03:12 |
| jogo | sdague: time flake8 nova/compute/manager.py is 2.27 and 'time flake8 --skip-slow nova/compute/manager.py' is 1.56 | 03:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Implement a simple mysql reporter. https://review.openstack.org/65885 | 03:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Implement a simple mysql reporter. https://review.openstack.org/65885 | 03:29 |
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| jhesketh | clarkb: Why are you replacing tox with Make? | 03:30 |
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| greghaynes | You should see the evil grin he gets whenever you ask him about it | 03:31 |
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| jhesketh | greghaynes: heh | 03:36 |
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| jogo | sdague: http://paste.openstack.org/show/76585 good progress with perf | 03:40 |
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| HenryG | I seem to have hit some kind of pip/pbr/setuptools misconfiguration and devstack fails to install. | 04:03 |
| HenryG | This is from my pip.log: http://paste.openstack.org/show/76587/ | 04:04 |
| HenryG | I tried updating pip and setuptools but that did not help. | 04:05 |
| clarkb | jhesketh: because tox 1.7.0 is broken | 04:07 |
| clarkb | jhesketh: and for a long time there was little indication upstream had any interest in fixing it (I pushed a patch even) | 04:08 |
| clarkb | jhesketh: then it occured to me that make fixes this problem | 04:08 |
| clarkb | so use make | 04:08 |
| jhesketh | clarkb: any links to the problem descriptions? | 04:08 |
| clarkb | sure | 04:09 |
| clarkb | jhesketh: https://bitbucket.org/hpk42/tox/issue/150/posargs-configerror is the bug and https://bitbucket.org/hpk42/tox/pull-request/85/fix-command-expansion-and-parsing/diff is my proposed fix | 04:09 |
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| clarkb | I will concede my fix is not perfect because it adds a second backward incompat behavior change | 04:10 |
| clarkb | but I also think it is the best and most correct option | 04:10 |
| jhesketh | clarkb: so I don't really know enough about tox vs make to have a valid opinion, but surely changing systems altogether is a bit of an over reaction? | 04:13 |
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| clarkb | jhesketh: it probably is, but we should've used tox from the beginning | 04:13 |
| jhesketh | for example, what about work arounds or folking until your patch is merged | 04:13 |
| clarkb | *shouldn't've | 04:13 |
| jhesketh | why's that? | 04:13 |
| clarkb | jhesketh: so I considered forking tox too (botox it would be called), but make solved this problem 30 years ago. and is installed everywhere and everyone knows how to use it | 04:14 |
| * mgagne brings popcorn | 04:14 | |
| clarkb | like using a tool other than make to do what make does is silly | 04:14 |
| jhesketh | fair call | 04:14 |
| clarkb | I think people have an aversion to make because of the crazy things other have done with it | 04:14 |
| clarkb | but my makefil that replaces tox is 34 lines long (with comments) | 04:15 |
| nibalizer | haha | 04:15 |
| clarkb | jhesketh: fwiw I don't think my change should be merged. It was more of a "see this is how easy it would be to use make" change | 04:15 |
| nibalizer | "other make is bad, but mine is ok, trust me guys" | 04:15 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: when compared to sendmail and NIS, exactly | 04:16 |
| nibalizer | clarkb: why would you bring those things up | 04:16 |
| nibalizer | those are like trigger words for sysadmins | 04:16 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: because they are the things that make people not want to use make | 04:16 |
| nibalizer | :) | 04:16 |
| nibalizer | fwiw if tox can't be convinced to back out their breaking changes, I'm all for finding new tooling | 04:17 |
| nibalizer | and make has this nice thing going for it: it is, and always will be, a part of the core unix utilities | 04:17 |
| mordred | yup. except don't forget not all of our peeps are on unix | 04:17 |
| clarkb | jhesketh: so, don't review that change as a serious lets use make instead of tox for zuul | 04:17 |
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| jhesketh | that's cool, mostly just curious | 04:18 |
| clarkb | jhesketh: instead use it as a demo for how we could use make. Which may lead us to using it instead | 04:18 |
| jhesketh | interested to see where it goes | 04:18 |
| mordred | (although I'm also tempted by the make goodness) | 04:18 |
| clarkb | mordred: did you see the makefile? | 04:18 |
| mgagne | nibalizer: are you the guy knowledgeable about puppet? | 04:19 |
| mordred | clarkb: not recently - link? | 04:19 |
| nibalizer | mgagne: one of the people here, whats your question? | 04:19 |
| mgagne | nibalizer: in ERB templates, why use scope.lookupvar() if @ can be used instead? | 04:19 |
| nibalizer | dude seriously | 04:19 |
| mgagne | nibalizer: the variable being in the manifest, not a global scope or something | 04:19 |
| clarkb | mordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/88698/ | 04:19 |
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| nibalizer | mgagne: i agree that @var is what we should be doing | 04:19 |
| clarkb | I am actually pretty impressed at how simple it can be while replacing tox for zuul | 04:20 |
| clarkb | now I didn't test that on windows or OS X | 04:20 |
| nibalizer | but we do scope.lookupvar() on a fully qualified variable $::foo::bar::baz | 04:20 |
| mordred | clarkb: nice | 04:20 |
| nibalizer | I think we should be doing @var instead, but there is intertia towards scope.lookupvar() and old code that hasn't been changed yet | 04:20 |
| mordred | nibalizer: I think we should only use scope.lookupvar if we're referencing variables out of current odules | 04:21 |
| mordred | module | 04:21 |
| mgagne | nibalizer: most of the time, scope.lookupvar() isn't needed in our use cases AFAIK | 04:21 |
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| mordred | but there are probably many places in our code where it's there because of Cargo Culting | 04:21 |
| * mgagne goes on a refactor rampage | 04:22 | |
| mordred | (we learned puppet by using it in production) | 04:22 |
| clarkb | jhesketh: also I would be so happy if tox could somehow be made to see the light | 04:22 |
| clarkb | but I was spending too much time on that | 04:22 |
| mordred | the biggest problem I have with tox is that it has aims to overlap with too many of the things we do, except not in ways we can use | 04:22 |
| nibalizer | mordred: also for the places where we need to get a varaible from a different scope we should expressly pull it into current scope by saying $localvar = $::somewhere::else::thing | 04:22 |
| mordred | like, it wants to be SUPER CI friendly, except it has a much much different version of CI than we do | 04:22 |
| mordred | nibalizer: yah. I can totally buy that | 04:23 |
| nibalizer | at the end of the day erb doesn't fail when it can't find stuff and just writes an empty string, which sux | 04:23 |
| nibalizer | in the puppet DSL we could put validate_string($var) if we wanted to code defensively | 04:23 |
| mordred | nibalizer: also, I grokked the in-tree hiera stuff more deeply over the weekend | 04:23 |
| mordred | nibalizer: so I'm ready for those patches to be ready and stuff | 04:23 |
| nibalizer | oh good! | 04:23 |
| nibalizer | i think they need a rebase.. | 04:23 |
| mordred | I mean, I understood them | 04:23 |
| mordred | but not deeply | 04:23 |
| nibalizer | oh right it needs us to decide if we want to keep enviormentally aware data on the master | 04:24 |
| clarkb | mordred: my biggest problem with it is they can't figure out how to do the main thing they do | 04:24 |
| clarkb | its kind of important | 04:24 |
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| mordred | yah | 04:24 |
| nibalizer | mordred: so with storyboard, you told me i need to create the db manually, can you point me to where that is? | 04:24 |
| mgagne | nibalizer: you mean scope.lookupvar() will make ERB compilation fails if the variable is empty? | 04:24 |
| nibalizer | mgagne: i dont think it will | 04:25 |
| mordred | nibalizer, clarkb: I vote for not keeping env aware hiera secrets | 04:25 |
| nibalizer | i dont think erb compilation ever failes | 04:25 |
| nibalizer | i've never seen it | 04:25 |
| mgagne | nibalizer: or it was just an improvement we should make? (validating string) | 04:25 |
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| mordred | nibalizer: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/storyboard/manifests/init.pp#n19 | 04:25 |
| nibalizer | mgagne: i'm talking about two separate channges, one is a change from scope.lookupvar() to @varname in erb templates; the other is to start doing validate_string($var) in puppet manifests to code defensively | 04:26 |
| mgagne | nibalizer: gotcha | 04:26 |
| mordred | nibalizer: see where we're passing in a mysql_host and mysql_password and mysql_user ? | 04:26 |
| nibalizer | yes | 04:26 |
| mordred | nibalizer: then, and I'm not 100% sure why - we hardcode the name storyboard for the db name: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/storyboard/templates/storyboard.conf.erb#n6 | 04:26 |
| nibalizer | i've done create a db and add user/pass and give rights | 04:27 |
| mordred | yah. so that should work then | 04:27 |
| nibalizer | :| | 04:27 |
| mordred | the storyboard module should run the migrations | 04:27 |
| * nibalizer is suspicious that storyboard doesn't read /etc/storyboard/storyboard.conf | 04:27 | |
| mordred | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/storyboard/manifests/init.pp#n116 | 04:27 |
| mordred | I know that it does | 04:27 |
| nibalizer | someone was saying its /etc/storyboard.conf but that isnt' right either | 04:28 |
| mordred | because we changed the password the other day | 04:28 |
| nibalizer | hrrrrm | 04:28 |
| mordred | so I'm 100% certain it reads that file | 04:28 |
| nibalizer | i was about to ask you to move that file aside and prove to me it will break | 04:28 |
| mordred | nibalizer: have you tried running the migrations by hand? | 04:28 |
| mordred | it's possible that puppet skipped the signal to run them | 04:28 |
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| mordred | nibalizer: storyboard-db-manage --config-file /etc/storyboard/storyboard.conf upgrade head | 04:29 |
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| nibalizer | ya, been doing it all by hand | 04:29 |
| mordred | kk | 04:29 |
| mordred | and that does nothing? | 04:29 |
| mordred | (I'm assuming you've tested logging in with the user/password you created) | 04:30 |
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| mordred | nibalizer: passing in the hostname explicitly | 04:31 |
| nibalizer | https://gist.github.com/nibalizer/11165405 | 04:31 |
| mordred | oh - you have tables | 04:31 |
| mordred | so the migrations worked | 04:31 |
| nibalizer | thats as root, but i just verified that the user I created has read | 04:32 |
| nibalizer | i could try to insert but the error in the logs is on read | 04:32 |
| mordred | can you paste me the error in the logs? | 04:32 |
| mordred | (I think you did this before - but I wasnt' paying attention then) | 04:32 |
| mordred | and would you also paste the contents of your storyboard.conf (feel free to x out the password of course) | 04:33 |
| nibalizer | mordred: if you refresh the gist | 04:33 |
| nibalizer | the logs are in a commend | 04:33 |
| nibalizer | er comment | 04:33 |
| nibalizer | also the storyboard.conf (though github rendering has made it SUPERSIZE) | 04:34 |
| nibalizer | also i dont' have a superuser.yaml or a public IP | 04:34 |
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| mordred | ok. that's fine | 04:38 |
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| mordred | nibalizer: when you checked mysql, did you check "mysql -h127.0.01 -ustoryboary1 -psomepass storyboard" ? | 04:38 |
| nibalizer | i left out the -h127.0.0.1 | 04:39 |
| mordred | try tat | 04:39 |
| nibalizer | but yes | 04:39 |
| mordred | try that | 04:39 |
| mordred | it's different | 04:39 |
| mordred | than localhost | 04:39 |
| mordred | without it, mysql will connect over the socket, which has a different set of permissions in the host table | 04:39 |
| nibalizer | ya works fine | 04:39 |
| mordred | and you can select stuff? | 04:39 |
| nibalizer | unless 'select * from users' and and it returning nothing is code for "permission denied" | 04:40 |
| mordred | WEIRD | 04:40 |
| mordred | ok you win the prize | 04:40 |
| nibalizer | i can probably build some ssh tunnels to let you screen -x on this vm if you want | 04:40 |
| mordred | I'm actually about done for the night - but let's maybe do that tomorrow - because this is weirding me out | 04:41 |
| mordred | you've exhausted my simple set of thigns to check | 04:41 |
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| nibalizer | i broke it! | 04:45 |
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| mgagne | so many templates! :O | 05:26 |
| nibalizer | mordred: oh god | 05:26 |
| nibalizer | rebasing my pupppet3 stuff against your trusy changes | 05:27 |
| nibalizer | :P | 05:27 |
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| sdague | morning folks | 10:17 |
| sdague | hmm.... it looks like all the cron jobs for elastic recheck are dead | 10:17 |
| reed | re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81859 How about using the notation YYYY.1 or YYYY.2 instead of the codenames? | 10:19 |
| reed | I think it's more readable and future-proof. Have you thought about the naming scheme after Z? | 10:19 |
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| markmc | reed, imho, most people struggle to remember the date based release names | 10:38 |
| reed | markmc, what do you mean? the association between 2014.1 and icehouse? | 10:39 |
| markmc | reed, yes; 2014.1 isn't something that most folks associate with anything | 10:40 |
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| reed | I don't have a strong opinion though, I think that codenames are quite silly and drive me nuts sometimes when I need to remember the dates | 10:40 |
| reed | 2014.1 is self descriptive: incubation started in 2014, first half | 10:41 |
| sdague | SergeyLukjanov: can you +A this through? Tempest is broken until it lands - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89383/ | 10:41 |
| reed | IMO quite more explicit than 'incubated-since: icehouse' | 10:42 |
| reed | one can say that at least our codenames are in alphabetic order | 10:42 |
| reed | so one could calculate the release date based on the current codename's cycle | 10:42 |
| reed | so during K cycle, if I read 'incubated-since: Juno' I will know that incubation started in ... wait... 2014.2? | 10:43 |
| markmc | dates don't matter as much as "number of cycles ago" maybe | 10:46 |
| markmc | anyway, point is we don't talk about 2014.1 nearly as much as icehouse | 10:46 |
| sdague | yeh, even the press refers to things by code names | 10:47 |
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| reed | can someone push this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89302/ ? | 10:53 |
| reed | please | 10:53 |
| sdague | reed: all the +A votes for that are still asleep right now | 10:55 |
| reed | sdague, I thought you and SergeyLukjanov had +A | 10:55 |
| sdague | no, I'm not +A on config | 10:56 |
| sdague | and sergey's vote is already there | 10:56 |
| reed | we need to relax the rules for trivial stuff... we can't wait 2 days for a stupid mailing list | 10:57 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | morning folks | 11:07 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | sdague, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89383/ approve | 11:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | d | 11:10 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | reed, my +2 is already on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89302/ and I prefer to wait for someone from infra root to approve it | 11:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: reorder -icehouse branch limits https://review.openstack.org/89383 | 11:12 |
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| sdague | SergeyLukjanov: thanks | 11:15 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | sdague, np | 11:16 |
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| reed | SergeyLukjanov, it's just a mailing list, we've created lots of them that way... honestly, if it takes 2 days, I'd consider creating the next one via command line | 11:28 |
| reed | I'll talk to jeblair later when he's awake | 11:29 |
| reed | SergeyLukjanov, thanks for your help, I appreciated your fast review and +2 | 11:29 |
| SergeyLukjanov | reed, honestly I think that two days for CR it's not bad, if it's really urgent you need to ping someone else from infra to approve | 11:32 |
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| sdague | reed: yeh, I'm not sure why this is all of a sudden omg urgent. Is there something it's blocking? | 11:36 |
| ttx | about release names vs. release numbers, as heartbleed showed, a good name has 100 times the marketing power of an obscure number. | 11:39 |
| ttx | But then, the name and the number are actually DIFFERENT things | 11:39 |
| ttx | the name is linked to the CYCLE. | 11:39 |
| ttx | the number is linked to the RELEASE | 11:39 |
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| ttx | I think a lot of the confusion is due to peolpe not understanding that difference. | 11:39 |
| ttx | We are already in the Juno cycle. Which will culminate with 2014.2 release. | 11:40 |
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| ttx | That page links the first CYCLE a project was incubated / integrated. | 11:40 |
| ttx | So putting "2014.2" there just wouldn't make sense. | 11:40 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, additionally, 2014.1.3 is still icehouse but it'll be released not soon | 11:42 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: exactly. | 11:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/hacking: Move hacking to pep8 1.5.6 https://review.openstack.org/86197 | 12:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/hacking: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/89230 | 12:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladislav Kuzmin proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Correction logic for work with new KVM/QEMU provider manager https://review.openstack.org/88555 | 12:34 |
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| thiagop | hey guys, hello | 12:57 |
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| thiagop | I'm having a problem in the gate gate-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full | 12:58 |
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| thiagop | the gate checking is failing trying to detach volume that is not attached to nothing, but seems like it is not related to my patch | 12:59 |
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| thiagop | this is my log, by the way | 13:10 |
| thiagop | http://logs.openstack.org/13/81913/3/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/fc61db9/console.html | 13:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Skripnick proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Publish rally plots https://review.openstack.org/89562 | 13:13 |
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| HenryG | Hi, my devstack fails when it tries to install pbr. Can anyone help? | 13:17 |
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| HenryG | This is what happens: http://paste.openstack.org/show/76632/ | 13:18 |
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| tnurlygayanov | HenryG, hi | 13:28 |
| tnurlygayanov | HenryG, can you please try to install this package manually? | 13:29 |
| tnurlygayanov | it works on my desktop | 13:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for nova metadata api bug 921858 https://review.openstack.org/89572 | 13:34 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 921858 in nova "Sporadic 'Failed to get metadata for ip:'" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/921858 | 13:34 |
| HenryG | tnurlygayanov: by manually you mean 'sudo pip install pbr'? | 13:36 |
| tnurlygayanov | yes | 13:38 |
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| HenryG | tnurlygayanov: same failure. Let me clear the cache and try again ... | 13:39 |
| HenryG | tnurlygayanov: nope, same failure | 13:40 |
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| reed | sdague, SergeyLukjanov: 2 days for a trivial change is bad. It blocks a user group to get started, slows down momentum for a _trivial_ request | 13:42 |
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| reed | sdague, SergeyLukjanov: for openstack-planet we don't require two +2: trivial changes in that case, too... first person with authority checks that it's not bad content and approves. Done. Moving on to new exciting things. Mailing list should be a similarly mindless task | 13:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: enable heat in grenade https://review.openstack.org/87677 | 13:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/pbr: Format autoindex.rst file properly https://review.openstack.org/87428 | 13:55 |
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| HenryG | tnurlygayanov: Finally got it fixed by updating setuptools. But I had to do 'sudo easy_install setuptools' because 'sudo pip install -U setuptools' did not work. Weird. | 14:01 |
| tnurlygayanov | HenryG, yes.... it is strange. | 14:02 |
| tnurlygayanov | HenryG, ok, cool, now you have working pbr :) | 14:03 |
| HenryG | tnurlygayanov: yes, and devstack works again. Thanks! | 14:03 |
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| boris-42 | sdague btw could you take a look https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89562/ it just adds publisher of rally plots | 14:04 |
| boris-42 | sdague so rally checks will automatically publish results of performance test in html presentation | 14:04 |
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| phschwartz | morning infra | 14:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Antoine Musso proposed a change to stackforge/python-jenkins: Clarify job_exists() error messages https://review.openstack.org/89587 | 14:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Antoine Musso proposed a change to stackforge/python-jenkins: Speed up job existence tests by fetching less info https://review.openstack.org/89589 | 14:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/zuul: Let webapp compress status.json if client supports it https://review.openstack.org/87872 | 14:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Antoine Musso proposed a change to stackforge/python-jenkins: Support node startup with the JNLP Launcher https://review.openstack.org/89603 | 14:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Antoine Musso proposed a change to stackforge/python-jenkins: Support node configuration https://review.openstack.org/89604 | 14:56 |
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| hashar | jeblair: | 15:02 |
| hashar | jeblair: moat python-jenkins patch for you :] | 15:03 |
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| sdague | jeblair / clarkb: riding early today because that's when I'll still have some sun. It looks like elastic recheck cron jobs stopped working on the 18th, so if there is any chance to poke them, that would be great | 15:11 |
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| cody-somerville | Hey. What's the sitrep on moving to use swift for build artifact storage? | 15:13 |
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| jeblair | hashar: yay! | 15:16 |
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| jeblair | sdague: there are 1692 processes hanging around waiting for flock | 15:16 |
| hashar | jeblair: the NodePool and python-jenkins licenses are different though (Apache2 vs BSD) | 15:16 |
| sdague | jeblair: interesting | 15:17 |
| sdague | something get wedged after code update? | 15:17 |
| jeblair | hashar: oh, we should get the original author to propose the changes then | 15:17 |
| NobodyCam | good morning Infra | 15:17 |
| sdague | we do flock intentionally to ensure that we don't race on ourselves | 15:17 |
| hashar | jeblair: turns out that is you apparently. According to devstack-gate git log :-] | 15:18 |
| jeblair | cody-somerville: i think some patches are still in review | 15:18 |
| sdague | I can look at wrapping that in some kind of timeout once I get back to have a fail out | 15:18 |
| jeblair | hashar: sounds right | 15:18 |
| NobodyCam | clarkb: just chcking on the node image rebuild from lastnight. | 15:18 |
| hashar | jeblair: also added some Zuul triggers with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89523/ but you might want to delegate the review :] | 15:18 |
| sdague | jeblair: you can probably killall the er cron jobs then, and the next one can come through | 15:18 |
| jeblair | sdague: i'll try to track down which one is stuck | 15:18 |
| sdague | honestly, they are idempotent, just kill them all | 15:18 |
| hashar | jeblair: that is all for today. Thanks a lot for the migration! | 15:19 |
| jeblair | hashar: thank you! | 15:19 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for nova metadata api bug 921858 https://review.openstack.org/89572 | 15:19 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 921858 in nova "Sporadic 'Failed to get metadata for ip:'" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/921858 | 15:19 |
| sdague | my guess is some kind of hiccup on the network that we fail to deal with well, so it's in a wait state | 15:19 |
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| sdague | unrelated, I also noticed the zuul job queue is pretty high - http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ | 15:20 |
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| sdague | anyway, back in a couple hours. | 15:22 |
| hashar | sdague: have a good ride! | 15:22 |
| jeblair | sdague: it's stuck reading from a (probably dead) connection to launchpad | 15:26 |
| jeblair | elastic-r 4539 recheck 4u IPv4 7786954 0t0 TCP status.openstack.org:48670->wildcard-launchpad-net.nutmeg.canonical.com:https (ESTABLISHED) | 15:26 |
| jeblair | elastic-r 4539 recheck 6u IPv4 7790452 0t0 TCP status.openstack.org:48668->wildcard-launchpad-net.nutmeg.canonical.com:https (CLOSE_WAIT) | 15:26 |
| YorikSar | Hello, everyone. How often is Zuul redeployed? I can't wait to see status.json compression in action. | 15:28 |
| YorikSar | Today it's 2.6 Mb that take 45s to download... | 15:28 |
| jeblair | YorikSar: for that we'll need to restart it. we can probably do that later today when it's not as busy. now wouldn't be a good time though | 15:29 |
| YorikSar | jeblair: Sure. I'm just eager to see it working. I guess I'll be able to check it tomorrow :) | 15:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marc Abramowitz proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add `browse` command https://review.openstack.org/85580 | 15:31 |
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| mordred | morning all | 15:39 |
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| mordred | cody-somerville: I believe the patches are mostly all written and are awaiting review | 15:39 |
| mordred | cody-somerville: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/71189/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/76796/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85540/ | 15:41 |
| cody-somerville | mordred: jeblair: Awesome! Thanks. | 15:41 |
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| jeblair | fifieldt, annegentle: who should i include on an email about developer.openstack.org (docs for developer-users of openstack)? | 15:44 |
| annegentle | jeblair: want to reply on yesterday's thread? | 15:45 |
| annegentle | openstack-dev ML | 15:45 |
| jeblair | annegentle: oh this was a private thing, i haven't read yesterday's thread | 15:45 |
| jeblair | annegentle: what's the thread subject? | 15:45 |
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| annegentle | jeblair: it was [openstack-sdk-php] Questions about user-facing documentation | 15:46 |
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| annegentle | jeblair: I think most of the people interested in it are on that list | 15:46 |
| annegentle | jeblair: I know you talked about subdomain concerns before, is that still the main issue you're working through? | 15:47 |
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| jeblair | annegentle: nope; i don't think i have subdomain concerns about developer.openstack.org -- i think we should do it; as soon as you have something to put there we can make it happen | 15:48 |
| jeblair | annegentle: i just got an email that was suggesting that there should be a developer.openstack.org, so linking to that thread and ccing you seem like the right things | 15:49 |
| jeblair | annegentle: are you blocked on infra for anything related to developer.o.o? | 15:50 |
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| annegentle | jeblair: my thinking (hopefully it came through in the email yesterday) was we redirect api.openstack.org to developer.o.o -- it's just two pages, http://api.openstack.org/index.html and http://api.openstack.org/api-ref.html | 15:50 |
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| annegentle | jeblair: I think I said one page in the email, doh | 15:50 |
| jeblair | annegentle: (i think previous subdomain concerns were mostly around not having one for each project eg, nova.o.o, keystone.o.o, etc) | 15:50 |
| annegentle | jeblair: but I think Andreas and I can handle the building, not sure about redirection yet | 15:51 |
| annegentle | jeblair: ok cool, I thought you and clarkb were disdainful of the developer.o.o subdomain :) | 15:51 |
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| annegentle | jeblair: redirection on docs.o.org is in an .htaccess file in our openstack-manuals repo, not sure where to do a redirect from api to dev | 15:52 |
| annegentle | jeblair: so probably need infra help there is al | 15:52 |
| annegentle | all | 15:52 |
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| jeblair | annegentle: i think api.o.o is also a cloud sites, so probably the same | 15:53 |
| annegentle | jeblair: ok cool | 15:53 |
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| annegentle | jeblair: do you want to do the domain set up then? and I'll figure out builds for those two pages and redirects? | 15:53 |
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| annegentle | jeblair: or see if any concerns come up on the mailing list that we haven't thought of? | 15:55 |
| NobodyCam | morning mordred :) | 15:55 |
| zaro | morning | 15:55 |
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| jeblair | annegentle: i'm happy to do it; let's let clarkb wake up and remind us of any objection he might have had (or i might have had and forgotten) first | 15:56 |
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| annegentle | jeblair: sounds like a plan (yes clarkb's eyes mo bettah) :) | 15:57 |
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| asselin | Hi, many of the tempest scripts are using/updating localrc instead of local.conf. Are there any plans to switch over to local.conf? | 15:58 |
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| pleia2 | good morning | 16:04 |
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| anteaya | morning pleia2 | 16:05 |
| anteaya | morning zaro and NobodyCam | 16:05 |
| SergeyLukjanov | Morning folks | 16:05 |
| anteaya | starting to feel like the waltons around here | 16:05 |
| anteaya | morning SergeyLukjanov | 16:05 |
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| arosen1 | Hi, is anyone having an issue with : https://login.launchpad.net/+openid ? | 16:21 |
| anteaya | why do you want to use that url? | 16:23 |
| NobodyCam | morning anteaya | 16:23 |
| anteaya | try login.launchpad.net/+login | 16:24 |
| anteaya | the page I get when I go to /+openid says it should be called from another app | 16:25 |
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| jogo | sdague: you see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89470/ | 16:26 |
| krotscheck | Anyone know what timezone jhesketh is in? Wanted to get more of a strategic idea of what all these zuul changes are all about. | 16:27 |
| jogo | krotscheck: AFAIK he is in Australia somewhere | 16:27 |
| krotscheck | jogo: Ah. Hrm. He’s asleep for the next few hours then. Righto | 16:28 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: i can fill you in | 16:29 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: the status page at http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ is the most up to date | 16:30 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: clarkb told me that it’s an effort to bring the infra-zuul in line with what’s actually in the repo, and then to layer on whitelabeling, right? | 16:30 |
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| krotscheck | (Sorry - the other way around) | 16:30 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: yep that's about it | 16:30 |
| jogo | is anyone else having issues hitting launchpad? | 16:30 |
| anteaya | jogo: apparently arosen1 is | 16:30 |
| anteaya | jogo: what are you seeing? | 16:30 |
| jogo | can't hit it | 16:30 |
| arosen1 | jogo: same here :( | 16:31 |
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| krotscheck | jeblair: How likely is it that there will be active work to improve the codebase moving forward? | 16:31 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: Well, let me change that question. | 16:31 |
| jeblair | jogo: wfm | 16:31 |
| anteaya | jogo arosen1 I am unable to replicate | 16:31 |
| jogo | arosen1: I wonder why no one else is having the issue | 16:31 |
| anteaya | can you provide more details? | 16:31 |
| jogo | what IP do you see for launchpad? | 16:31 |
| jogo | anteaya: server just times out, no response | 16:31 |
| arosen1 | launchpad.net.66INA91.189.89.222 | 16:32 |
| arosen1 | launchpad.net.66INA91.189.89.223 | 16:32 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: if it succeeds in being something that we can make look like the page here: http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ then very likely | 16:32 |
| arosen1 | jogo: you? | 16:32 |
| jogo | same | 16:32 |
| jogo | jeblair: what IP do you have? | 16:32 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: after all, that page has kept up with changes in zuul, while the one in the tree has not, preciely because we don't run it. | 16:32 |
| jeblair | jogo: same | 16:32 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: There’s shitty code in that review. use of inline styles all over the place. I can let it slide, but I don’t actually see where that code was copied from (i think it’s new). If there’ll be concerted effort to make-things-better, great. Otherwise.... | 16:32 |
| jogo | jeblair: thanks | 16:33 |
| jogo | arosen1: very odd | 16:33 |
| arosen1 | jogo: yea i saw this occurring last night too | 16:33 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: it's mostly copied from the current openstack status page. i wrote most of it and jhesketh is making it a little bit better. | 16:34 |
| anteaya | same ip for me too | 16:34 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: Got it | 16:34 |
| krotscheck | So, good for now, we’d love to improve it later? | 16:34 |
| arosen1 | jogo: it seems like my service provider or something. If I ssh -D and set firefox to use a socks proxy things work. | 16:35 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: yep. there's a real opportunity here.... | 16:35 |
| jogo | arosen1: huh | 16:35 |
| jogo | who is your provider? | 16:35 |
| jogo | AFAIK I am comcast | 16:35 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: Yeah yeah yeah, subtext. | 16:35 |
| arosen1 | jogo: i think comcast | 16:35 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: basically, zuul should have a functioning status page included | 16:35 |
| arosen1 | i steall my wifi my from neighbor ;) | 16:35 |
| arosen1 | jk | 16:35 |
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| reed | ttx, see the discussion on legal-discuss when you have time | 16:35 |
| jogo | arosen1: haha ohh comcast | 16:36 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: What’s the architectural hope there: Separate client, or baked-in? | 16:36 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: the wikipedia folks like the plain bootstrap look; our page needs to look like http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ | 16:36 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: so we need something that supports both. you know, power of css and all. | 16:36 |
| reed | jeblair, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89302/ can we relax the rules to approve new mailing lists? make them like new addition to planet, one +2 is enough | 16:36 |
| reed | ? | 16:36 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: I just landed simple whitelabeling in storyboard. | 16:37 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: Is zuul under the same package restrictions as openstack, or is it more fluid like storyboard? | 16:37 |
| krotscheck | I’m guessing more fluid. | 16:37 |
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| jeblair | krotscheck: it's a very simple read-only "client" right now, so it doesn't need to be complicated | 16:37 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: not sure i understand your question about package restrictions | 16:38 |
| arosen1 | jogo: actually i can traceroute all the way to launchpad.net and even ping it | 16:38 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: Just thinking about what tooling is available to generate the CSS | 16:38 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: Might be a good idea to see if there’s a LESS/SASS compiler written in python | 16:39 |
| jogo | it seems to hang on ssl or something | 16:39 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: Found one. | 16:39 |
| krotscheck | Hrm | 16:39 |
| jeblair | reed: code reviews are to help avoid errors; errors in mailing lists are hard to correct, i don't think we should relax those requirements | 16:39 |
| jogo | arosen1: which makes sense comcast be evil | 16:39 |
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| reed | jeblair, ? it's a trivial copy and paste, just like adding a new feed to planet | 16:40 |
| reed | jeblair, besides, waiting two days kills momentum in groups | 16:40 |
| reed | jeblair, to frame the issue, creating a google group is instantaneous | 16:41 |
| reed | jeblair, once the request comes from me or Tom, or is reviewed and approved by me/Tom, it should be approved asap | 16:42 |
| jeblair | reed: that's not a way to be a part of the community. this community is built on equal access to shared resources mediated by peer review. | 16:42 |
| reed | jeblair, I understand all that and I agree with you, I'm just stating needs from the community | 16:42 |
| jeblair | reed: we do review and approve requests as soon as possible. | 16:42 |
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| reed | jeblair, yep, SergeyLukjanov was very fast at +2... but if they created a google group they would have astarted discussing 2 days ago | 16:43 |
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| reed | jeblair, I'm suggesting that on that particular kind of requests, when it comes from/is approved by me or Tom, one +2 from one of the core infra people shoulld be enough | 16:44 |
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| jeblair | krotscheck: why does the css need to be generated? | 16:52 |
| SergeyLukjanov | jeblair, compaction, less -> css, I think | 16:52 |
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| krotscheck | jeblair: Oh, ease of whitelabeling. If we can describe our various themes in terms of a few variables, we can generate all kinds of different branded zuuls | 16:53 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: For example, HP might want its links to be HP-blue while Redhat wants red. | 16:53 |
| krotscheck | I’m digging thorough the zuul code right now, coming up with a few options. | 16:54 |
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| krotscheck | On one side, we could do a JIT, cached CSS file that is regenerated on GET and whenever someone edits a configuration file. | 16:55 |
| krotscheck | On the other, it could be part of the install process. | 16:55 |
| krotscheck | Or it could be pre-packaged. | 16:56 |
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| krotscheck | That’s why I want to talk to jhesketh, because I’d love to know what his thoughts are. | 16:56 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: i hesitate to ask, but what's wrong with semantic use of css? | 16:59 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: why can't we just use say, a 'build-failed' class and then let people write their own css files that say that 'build-failed' is red | 17:01 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: the concerns with using more tools are: a number of our users package this, and so adding new tools means potentially more work for them (unless they are already packaged). i think less may be problematic here. | 17:02 |
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| jeblair | krotscheck: and also, i need to be able to maintain this, because no one else has committed to maintaining it in the long term | 17:02 |
| jeblair | that's actually how we got into this mess; someone did a drive-by refactor and never updated it again | 17:02 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: so if it gets rebuilt using a bunch of tools i don't understand, we'll just repeat the process | 17:03 |
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| SpamapS | clint 5542 13.3 80.3 15004536 13098528 ? Dl Apr21 191:15 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox | 17:05 |
| SpamapS | I've seen this a few times when I leave status.o.o/zuul up overnight | 17:05 |
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| clarkb | morning | 17:11 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: Sorry, was on the phone. | 17:13 |
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| clarkb | annegentle: jeblair: my concern with api vs developer vs docs .o.o is that all of it is documentation and easier to find under one location | 17:13 |
| clarkb | developer and api docs are still documentation | 17:14 |
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| clarkb | if you think discoverability from the other direction will be helped with aliases we can have those but distinct partitions in where to find documentation is counter intuitive | 17:14 |
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| krotscheck | jeblair: I’m just trying to make adoption and updating super easy. | 17:15 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: And I’ve found that a list of variables is a lower matinenance footprint than an entire set of CSS styles. | 17:15 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: BUT | 17:15 |
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| annegentle | hey clarkb | 17:16 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: Essentially there’s no real difference between a compiled CSS file and an if-custom-theme-file-exists statement. | 17:16 |
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| annegentle | clarkb: usually I'd say "docs.o.org all the things" but in this case the audience expects developer.openstack.org (not api.openstack.org). So Im' trying to not only correct an incorrectly named subdomain but also meet expectations/standards | 17:16 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: And since CSS allows for all kinds of tasty overrides, that could be the path of least resistance. | 17:17 |
| clarkb | annegentle: how do we know the audience expects that? | 17:17 |
| annegentle | clarkb: and since we have two dev audiences, let's meet expectations for the one that'll be bigger (200,000 users vs 2,000) | 17:17 |
| clarkb | as a developer consuming openstack stuff I would google for 'openstack docs' | 17:17 |
| clarkb | I then want all of the documentation in one location | 17:17 |
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| annegentle | clarkb: I've been researching, here's a list of examples for REST APIs https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1418b63bc1408f492299 | 17:19 |
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| clarkb | annegentle: and my assertion is they are doing it wrong :) | 17:19 |
| dstufft | clarkb: are we talking about docs? I don't think i've ever successfully found the client docs by googling stuff, always the server API docs | 17:20 |
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| clarkb | as someone that consumes both user and dev docs for say github it is really aggravating that everything doesn't live in the same location | 17:20 |
| clarkb | dstufft: thats my point | 17:20 |
| annegentle | clarkb: we haven't served this audience well ever | 17:20 |
| clarkb | dstufft: if they were in the same location you would find both | 17:20 |
| dstufft | clarkb: yea just +1ing or 2centing or whatever | 17:20 |
| annegentle | clarkb: I think there's a risk of increasing confusion between contrib devs and app devs | 17:21 |
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| annegentle | clarkb: at the last board meeting there also was raised the need for serving app devs | 17:21 |
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| clarkb | annegentle: I agree we need to serve different groups of people | 17:21 |
| annegentle | clarkb: I know the minutes aren't out yet, but I was there. They like our content, but those of us researching it think dev.o.org is the way to go (rather than api.o.org) | 17:21 |
| clarkb | annegentle: I think the best way to do that is to put all of the documentation in one easy to find place. docs.o.o/foo docs.o.o/bar and so on | 17:22 |
| annegentle | clarkb: that's not the way the rest of the world is going with REST API docs, though | 17:22 |
| clarkb | then if you need host aliases layer that on top | 17:22 |
| clarkb | annegentle: and they are wrong | 17:22 |
| clarkb | you can still have host aliaes | 17:23 |
| clarkb | but I should be able to nav between different types of docs to get a full picture or when I context switch and so on | 17:23 |
| annegentle | clarkb: what does "have host aliases" mean? (That might work nicely if it's what I think) | 17:23 |
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| clarkb | annegentle: point dev.o.o and api.o.o to docs.o.o/api (or whatever the docs.o.o path would be. I don't think actual paths are important as much as colocating the data | 17:26 |
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| annegentle | clarkb: thinking | 17:26 |
| jeblair | clarkb: redirect? | 17:26 |
| clarkb | redirect or another vhost to give people an illusion or whatever | 17:27 |
| annegentle | clarkb: thing is, why not a separate experience for app developers? We already know our docs.o.org nav is overloaded and clunky... not to conflate but seems like we do app devs a disservice | 17:27 |
| * annegentle loves to conflate | 17:27 | |
| clarkb | annegentle: because if you are doing app development against your private cloud and want to check docs for both sides now you have to do a second google search | 17:27 |
| clarkb | and general discoverability | 17:27 |
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| clarkb | to me it is unintutive that we would have a docs site and host docs elsewhere | 17:28 |
| annegentle | clarkb: private clouds I know of are already consuming upstream docs for their users | 17:28 |
| annegentle | clarkb: docs site = standing up openstack, written by openstack contributors (2,000 potential) devdocs site = consuming openstack, written by consumers of those thousands of private clouds and handfuls of public clouds? | 17:29 |
| annegentle | clarkb: now that vision is a long way off, but that's my thinking, give a different experience | 17:29 |
| clarkb | annegentle: I get that that is how you want to frame it but docs are docs | 17:29 |
| clarkb | I expect all the docs to be on the docs site | 17:29 |
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| anteaya | when I go to an airport I don't know what terminal or gate I need to be at, I just want to get to the airport | 17:30 |
| anteaya | once at the airport, then I can figure out terminal or gate | 17:30 |
| anteaya | like at teh hong kong airport | 17:30 |
| anteaya | there is one building | 17:30 |
| anteaya | go there, then decide | 17:31 |
| anteaya | I understand making consumption easier for devs | 17:31 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: thank you for the TC vote reminder | 17:31 |
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| anteaya | but I think clarkb has a good point | 17:31 |
| annegentle | clarkb: that overloads the docs team and docs site I think, it's unsustainable (from a contrib standpoint) and doesn't serve those dev users in a way they're expecting. | 17:31 |
| anteaya | clarkb: welcome, vote vote vote | 17:31 |
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| annegentle | anteaya: yeah I liked the vote vote vote subject line :) | 17:32 |
| anteaya | :D | 17:32 |
| clarkb | annegentle: why is it unsustainable? it is just a hosting endpoint that you can more easily google search | 17:32 |
| NobodyCam | good morning clarkb :) | 17:32 |
| anteaya | trying to get us over 30% participation | 17:32 |
| clarkb | site:docs.o.o tell me about nova | 17:32 |
| clarkb | if I do that, I only get half a picture | 17:32 |
| clarkb | NobodyCam: tripleo cloud was dead so I gave up | 17:33 |
| clarkb | not sure if it is any better now | 17:33 |
| annegentle | clarkb: I realize google is most people's entry point but in the list of returned hits, as an app dev, you'd go for developer.openstack.org first, thinking "hey that's for me" -- also there's no reason for app devs to know how the delicious openstack is made, only that they can consume it to their fill | 17:33 |
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| NobodyCam | clarkb: ack... :) seems like its working again | 17:34 |
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| clarkb | annegentle: in general I agree (I do think knowing more of the bits involved helps understand stuff but isn't required in many cases) but that doesn't prevent us from cohosting | 17:34 |
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| clarkb | NobodyCam: ok giving it another shot now | 17:34 |
| NobodyCam | w00t ... TY ... clarkb :) | 17:35 |
| annegentle | clarkb: yeah I think all I'm asking for at this point is developer.o.org, dev.o.org, redirecting two pages from api.openstack.org | 17:35 |
| anteaya | clarkb: SpamapS had left a message in backscroll that it was back up again | 17:35 |
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| annegentle | clarkb: and I don't mean to bite off more than we should | 17:35 |
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| clarkb | annegentle: you want developer.o.o to be a distinct endpoint though right? | 17:36 |
| clarkb | that is what I have a problem with | 17:36 |
| BobBallAway | Could I ask for comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87680/? My focus is on improving the XenServer CI at the moment, and that'd be greatly assisted by having the CI internals under the control of gerrit | 17:36 |
| clarkb | this is documentation put it on the documentation site | 17:36 |
| annegentle | clarkb: for now it would be the same as http://api.openstack.org | 17:36 |
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| BobBallAway | I should have said the change is about moving some of our 3rd party CI to stackforge! | 17:37 |
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| jeblair | BobBallAway: ah, we haven't seen that because it didn't have the 'new-project' topic; can you push a new patchset with "git review -t new-project" ? | 17:37 |
| annegentle | clarkb: Really, just correcting for mistakenly having api.openstack.org a few years back -- by naming it correctly based on standards for REST API docs | 17:37 |
| clarkb | annegentle: yup and imo the renaming should be docs.o.o | 17:38 |
| BobBallAway | sure thing! | 17:38 |
| annegentle | clarkb: ok that's our difference. Are we bikeshedding? Or just thinking differently about audience/experience? | 17:38 |
| clarkb | annegentle: I think we are emphasizing different needs. I am trying to explain that as a consumer of docs that the best way to help people needing documentation is to put it all in one place | 17:39 |
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| clarkb | others seem to think that being like others is a good thing | 17:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Bob Ball proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move xenapi-os-testing to stackforge. https://review.openstack.org/87680 | 17:39 |
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| BobBallAway | jeblair: it doesn't seem to have changed the topic :/ | 17:42 |
| BobBallAway | jeblair: shall I abandon the change and create a new one? | 17:42 |
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| jeblair | BobBallAway: that's really weird. can you do it again and paste the output of "git review -v -t new-project" ? | 17:43 |
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| annegentle | hey etoews_ do you have any thoughts on docs site collections vs separations? see me and clarkb discussing above ^^ | 17:44 |
| jeblair | i'm sure i saw an article about this a while back (including surveys of open source projects), but i can't for the life of me find it :( | 17:45 |
| etoews_ | hi annegentle: catching up... | 17:45 |
| annegentle | jeblair: I thought I found an apigee deck that had the domain names listed, let me dig | 17:45 |
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| sdague | jogo: is there no way to decorate out the function registers completely? | 17:45 |
| anteaya | BobBallAway: comments | 17:46 |
| clarkb | annegentle: my other concern with developer.o.o is you will create a lot of confusion for people wanting to contribute to openstack | 17:46 |
| anteaya | commented I mean | 17:46 |
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| sdague | jogo: looking at - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89470/1/hacking/checks/imports.py it feels like we should be able to be more clever and have some way to not register those functions at all | 17:47 |
| etoews_ | hi clarkb: i'm the one implementing https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/developer-openstack-org | 17:47 |
| annegentle | clarkb: yeah I share that one for sure | 17:47 |
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| jogo | sdague: perhaps this was somewhat of a proof of concept | 17:48 |
| jogo | hence the WIP | 17:48 |
| sdague | jogo: ok cool | 17:48 |
| sdague | yeh, I wonder if you could treat the slow tests like the site hacking tests | 17:48 |
| jogo | if you have a better idea add a comment | 17:48 |
| mihgen | SergeyLukjanov: ping | 17:48 |
| sdague | and have a function that decides whether or not to register them | 17:48 |
| mihgen | SergeyLukjanov: could you take a look pls at simple request https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89402/ | 17:48 |
| sdague | will do, just thinking aloud | 17:48 |
| sdague | the time improvements are very nice | 17:48 |
| etoews_ | annegentle clarkb: right. it all comes down to audience. | 17:49 |
| jogo | oh I thought about that, but then setup.cfg isn't a nice list of everything | 17:49 |
| sdague | sure, but does anyone care about that besides us :) | 17:49 |
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| jogo | heh | 17:49 |
| jogo | so I ran skip slow on all of nova and it only saved 6 or 6 seconds out of 80 | 17:50 |
| clarkb | etoews_: I agree there are different audiences. I don't agree that each audience deservers a differently indexed set of documentation | 17:50 |
| jogo | which makes sense, because we only import things once | 17:50 |
| jogo | so skip slow currently makes small runs much faster | 17:50 |
| sdague | right | 17:50 |
| sdague | however, that's for the project wide case | 17:50 |
| etoews_ | we're making developer.o.o the destination for developers on openstack. it the much wider world (beyond openstack itself) it's well understood that developer.whatever.tld is the place for developers on top of a platform. | 17:50 |
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| sdague | if you integrate this into an editor, it's not project wide | 17:51 |
| jogo | exactly | 17:51 |
| sdague | it's a separate invoke for each file | 17:51 |
| clarkb | etoews_: right and my assertion is that the wider world fails at this | 17:51 |
| clarkb | etoews_: using the github docs as both a user and api consumer is frustrating | 17:51 |
| clarkb | for example | 17:51 |
| clarkb | we shouldn't do a thing just because twitter and github did it | 17:51 |
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| jogo | sdague: I wonder where the other second or so is going too | 17:52 |
| jogo | sdague: what would really help is make flake8 multi threaded | 17:52 |
| jogo | as this is inherently very parallelizable | 17:52 |
| jogo | trivially so on the file level | 17:52 |
| annegentle | clarkb: yeah they're narrowly focused and a single product/single API, but we've had good results with developer.rackspace.com in serving this particular user | 17:52 |
| clarkb | annegentle: I disagree about that as well :) | 17:53 |
| etoews_ | it's not just twitter and github. it's everyone. | 17:53 |
| clarkb | I can never find rax docs that I need | 17:53 |
| annegentle | clarkb: I worry that we need to follow standards (ill-defined as they are) if we're trying to make a standard | 17:53 |
| clarkb | for example that rbac stuff. had to find that in a blog post | 17:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Marc Abramowitz proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add a "list" command https://review.openstack.org/87090 | 17:54 |
| annegentle | clarkb: we're working on better rax docs too, believe me :) and sigh all at the same time | 17:54 |
| clarkb | and my point is that everyone would be better served if the docs lived on the doc site | 17:54 |
| clarkb | if you find that too much of the world is trained to type developer.foo.bar then add an cname/redirect/whatever | 17:55 |
| annegentle | clarkb: thinking | 17:56 |
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| sdague | jogo: sure, though I don't think that it helps on my case | 17:56 |
| etoews_ | if that's the case and if a developer goes to docs.o.o and tells google to tell me about nova. 80% of the hits are going to be about how to deploy nova. | 17:56 |
| etoews_ | it a signal to noise problem. | 17:56 |
| etoews_ | we need to give developers lots of signal. | 17:57 |
| etoews_ | that's why everyone does it this way. | 17:57 |
| clarkb | etoews_: the inverse is true of developers.o.o. I will search and get zero hits for nova api | 17:57 |
| clarkb | because the docs aren't on the doc site | 17:57 |
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| etoews_ | we also want to move the api docs to developer.o.o | 17:57 |
| clarkb | I know | 17:57 |
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| etoews_ | right...so all developer resources are in one place. exactly what they need. | 17:58 |
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| clarkb | etoews_: but they aren't | 17:58 |
| clarkb | because the other half of the documentation is in another place | 17:58 |
| etoews_ | s/are/will be/ | 17:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Bob Ball proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move xenapi-os-testing to stackforge. https://review.openstack.org/87680 | 17:59 |
| clarkb | not to mention the confusion I mentioned earlier | 17:59 |
| clarkb | developer.openstack.org isn't a site for openstack developers? huh? | 17:59 |
| BobBallAway | jeblair: I changed the branch to new-project and used -t new-project and this time it worked. | 17:59 |
| etoews_ | correct. | 17:59 |
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| anteaya | BobBallAway: lgtm | 17:59 |
| jeblair | BobBallAway: ftr, changing the branch shouldn't be necessary | 18:00 |
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| etoews_ | developers of openstack itself and developers of application on openstack are extremely different audiences. | 18:00 |
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| clarkb | etoews_: I agree... but using a different fqdn isn't the proper way to segregate them | 18:00 |
| annegentle | clarkb: the app devs should be at least 1000x the numbers of the contributor devs if we are succeeding. if not 10,000x | 18:00 |
| clarkb | annegentle: the numbers don't matter | 18:00 |
| clarkb | it is still confusing | 18:01 |
| jeblair | i will say that if we have developer(s?).openstack.org, docs.o.o/developer could get really confusing | 18:01 |
| etoews_ | the numbers do matter. this is what the wider world understands. it's those the developer of applications on openstack that we need to attract. | 18:01 |
| clarkb | etoews_: and why can't we do that with docs.o.o? | 18:01 |
| jeblair | (i'm guessing that was why we used api to start with) | 18:02 |
| clarkb | etoews_: and serve both groups | 18:02 |
| etoews_ | because you're mixing 3 extremely different audiences there already. | 18:02 |
| annegentle | clarkb: Is it the "Doc" umbrella that has you concerned? This site will also be an entry for downloading SDKs. | 18:02 |
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| clarkb | annegentle: what has me concerned is that as a consumer of lots of technical documentation I can never find what I need because everything is scattered | 18:02 |
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| clarkb | annegentle: I find documentation that is collocated much easier to search and navigate because they don't assume I will just hop domains to get $otherthing | 18:03 |
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| clarkb | for example man pages | 18:03 |
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| clarkb | they are collocated | 18:03 |
| etoews_ | clarkb: right. you're getting low signal. | 18:03 |
| clarkb | everything from systems programmer docs to config file info | 18:03 |
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| anteaya | and modred has declared manage-projects working, so we can start approving https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/config+branch:master+topic:new-project,n,z again, I do believe | 18:03 |
| NobodyCam | clarkb: Not pushing at all, Just courious about how long one could expect the rebuilds to take? | 18:03 |
| annegentle | clarkb: We're trying to organize that info overload into better experiences. | 18:04 |
| etoews_ | jeblair: i've thought about docs.o.o/developer already. i'll make a commit to that page to make it very clear who the audience for it is. | 18:04 |
| clarkb | useful to linux kernel hackers and sysadmins | 18:04 |
| etoews_ | annegentle: yes. | 18:04 |
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| sdague | it seems like what the site is called should be pretty secondary, honestly. If docs.o.o/developer can't be organized well enough to be useful, I don't understand how a cname fixes that :) | 18:04 |
| clarkb | now info | 18:05 |
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| clarkb | whoever thought info was a good thing should really rethink that. And I think this is a similar sort of partition we are introducing | 18:05 |
| jeblair | sdague: the content api.openstack.org is the main point of discussion (and would be the starting content for developer.openstack.org) | 18:05 |
| sdague | gotcha | 18:05 |
| clarkb | oh you want to read this more in depth doc about some subject good luck | 18:05 |
| clarkb | NobodyCam: they are running, probably an hour tops | 18:07 |
| etoews_ | it's also about developer expectations. | 18:07 |
| annegentle | sdague: clarkb: and it's an sdk download point also so not just docs (It's not just me over-organizing content) | 18:07 |
| ravikumar_hp | Is Devstack can setup Trove ? | 18:07 |
| sdague | ravikumar_hp: yes, it's not enabled by default though | 18:07 |
| etoews_ | this is what developers expect: | 18:07 |
| etoews_ | https://developers.google.com/ | 18:07 |
| etoews_ | https://developer.apple.com/ | 18:07 |
| etoews_ | http://developer.amazon.com/ | 18:07 |
| etoews_ | https://developers.facebook.com/ | 18:07 |
| etoews_ | https://dev.twitter.com/ | 18:07 |
| etoews_ | https://developer.linkedin.com/ | 18:07 |
| etoews_ | http://developer.rackspace.com/ | 18:07 |
| etoews_ | http://developer.twilio.com/ | 18:07 |
| etoews_ | http://developer.marvel.com/ | 18:07 |
| ravikumar_hp | thanks | 18:07 |
| etoews_ | http://developer.github.com/ | 18:07 |
| sdague | etoews_: comparing openstack.org to companies might be the wrong comparison though. What about hadoop.org, apache.org, kernel.org? | 18:08 |
| Mithrandir | people go to sites and don't just mash keywords into their favourite search engine? | 18:09 |
| clarkb | Mithrandir: its the post mash keywords expection that I am trying to deal with | 18:09 |
| clarkb | if I land on docs.o.o or developer.o.o I am now on an island | 18:09 |
| etoews_ | sdague: i don't think so considering the service provider nature of openstack. | 18:11 |
| etoews_ | clarkb: right. an island full of glorious signal. | 18:12 |
| etoews_ | as a developer, i don't want to see anything about how to deploy openstack or hadoop or whatever. i just want to get something done. | 18:12 |
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| clarkb | etoews_: there is no reason we can't achieve that with docs.o.o for you | 18:13 |
| clarkb | but we can also make it easy to disover the other side if using a central location | 18:13 |
| clarkb | if you want to ignore how the sausage is made thats fine | 18:14 |
| SlickNik | ravikumar_hp: If you have any other questions on how to setup trove (using devstack), feel free to pop in and ask them on #openstack-trove. We're always happy to help out. | 18:14 |
| clarkb | but we shouldn't make it harder for everyone | 18:14 |
| NobodyCam | clarkb: awesome... TY | 18:14 |
| ravikumar_hp | sure SlickNik: | 18:14 |
| clarkb | fwiw I agree with sdage | 18:14 |
| clarkb | the comparison to other large open source projects would be more valid | 18:15 |
| etoews_ | clarkb: "everyone" in that context is an overstatement. | 18:15 |
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| etoews_ | everyone = developers who want to develop applications on openstack *and* deploy openstack *and* develop openstack itself? | 18:16 |
| clarkb | etoews_: everyone is anyone looking for openstack documentation | 18:16 |
| etoews_ | what kind of documentation? | 18:16 |
| clarkb | etoews_: all of it | 18:16 |
| etoews_ | why would they want to see all of it? what purpose would that serve? | 18:17 |
| clarkb | etoews_: I think you are misinterpretting what I am trying to say | 18:17 |
| clarkb | etoews_: I don't think everyone needs to see all of it. I do think that all of our docs are docs and shouldn't be treated special | 18:17 |
| clarkb | etoews_: so that regardless of what you do need it is clear where to find it even when what you need changes | 18:17 |
| clarkb | etoews_: for example man pages | 18:18 |
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| clarkb | they are all located in one place. Divided into navigable sections so that as needs change I don't have to look someplace else | 18:18 |
| sdague | etoews_: is there a reason the content restructure couldn't happen first, then make a decision later to pull the content up a level. It seems like the name of the url, given that everyone is going to get there via google, is something that could be sorted later | 18:19 |
| etoews_ | navigable maybe (that's a helluva lot of content). searchable no. | 18:19 |
| sdague | etoews_: why not? | 18:19 |
| etoews_ | sdague: ummm...why not what exactly? | 18:20 |
| sdague | why it becomes not searchable? | 18:20 |
| etoews_ | because you have all of the docs in one domain, trying to treat the audience homogeneously. you're going to get a ton of hits that have nothing to do with what you really want to accomplish. low signal. | 18:21 |
| sdague | is that just a technology problem? like we don't have a setup to boost developer docs when in /developer | 18:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | is it safe to approve gerritbot/accessbot change while meetings are running? | 18:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | jeblair, clarkb ^^ | 18:22 |
| etoews_ | not just a tech problem. developers have expectations about where to find docs and how they are presented to them. | 18:22 |
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| jeblair | SergeyLukjanov: yes, only config changes for meetbot (eavesdrop) are dangerous | 18:23 |
| clarkb | SergeyLukjanov: gerritbot and accessbot should be ok. Meetbot isn't | 18:23 |
| SergeyLukjanov | jeblair. clarkb. ok, that's what I was thinking but don't want to break meetings ;) | 18:23 |
| SergeyLukjanov | thx | 18:23 |
| SergeyLukjanov | btw approved https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89402/2 | 18:24 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mihgen ^^ | 18:24 |
| clarkb | mordred: jeblair SergeyLukjanov are we good to approve new project adds now without waiting for fridays? | 18:25 |
| clarkb | it sounded like the run yesterday was a success but that it took a long time. Is that something that needs to be fixed prior to approving changes unsupervised? | 18:26 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | clarkb, I have such feeling after reading scrollback but I'm not so unfair for doing it ;) | 18:26 |
| SergeyLukjanov | unfear* | 18:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Graham Hayes proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add stackforge/designate-specs https://review.openstack.org/87540 | 18:27 |
| anteaya | jeblair: when you get a chance, mgagne outlined some options for templating infra publish jobs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89421/ | 18:27 |
| anteaya | jeblair: I was interested in getting your opinion before I offer another patchset | 18:27 |
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| mark0n | clarkb: if you've a few minutes, I would appreciate if you could review my Git multi-remote patch again (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80084/) - the last change was only very minor | 18:28 |
| anteaya | clarkb: mordred said he declared m-p fixed | 18:28 |
| anteaya | clarkb: he was also going to look into why m-p was slow and took it offline to do so, I think | 18:29 |
| anteaya | but then I didn't hear back from him | 18:29 |
| anteaya | I would look on gerrit .bash_history | 18:29 |
| anteaya | and see what the status of m-p is on the server | 18:29 |
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| clarkb | mark0n: done | 18:30 |
| mark0n | clarkb: tnx! | 18:30 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Move Fuel Gerrit messages to the separate IRC room https://review.openstack.org/89402 | 18:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Add date and time to reviewers output https://review.openstack.org/89666 | 18:31 |
| mgagne | not to state what could be the obvious but the gate looks jammed... | 18:31 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: add fingerprint for slow nodes https://review.openstack.org/89545 | 18:32 |
| jeblair | mgagne: just backlogged i think. something caused a lot of changes to be checked earlier today (i haven't looked to see what) | 18:32 |
| mgagne | jeblair: "slow nodes" looks to be the culprit | 18:32 |
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| jeblair | mgagne: why do you say that? | 18:33 |
| jeblair | (i'm looking at the test node and job queue graphs which have a dramatic rise around 1500utc) | 18:33 |
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| jeblair | sorry, 13-1400 | 18:33 |
| mgagne | jeblair: was referring to the recently merged change | 18:33 |
| jeblair | interesting | 18:34 |
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| jeblair | mgagne: i don't believe that is related to the number of jobs currently running | 18:36 |
| sdague | the fingerprint that just merged won't do anything until this merges - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89381/ | 18:38 |
| sdague | but we're definitely seeing an incidence of really slow nodes put into the rotation | 18:39 |
| sdague | which generate timeouts at 2hrs | 18:39 |
| anteaya | I looked through some of the project pages, the traffic looks normal to me | 18:39 |
| anteaya | didn't see anyone doing a string of rechecks | 18:39 |
| jeblair | anteaya: thanks | 18:40 |
| anteaya | np | 18:40 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: can you give me an example string that would be a problem in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84873/6/gear/__init__.py ? | 18:45 |
| lifeless | is there a non-ssl way to pull gerrit refs ? | 18:45 |
| lifeless | erm | 18:45 |
| lifeless | non-ssh | 18:45 |
| lifeless | ssl is fine ;) | 18:45 |
| jeblair | lifeless: yes, see the "Download" section of the patchset block for any review | 18:45 |
| lifeless | thanks | 18:45 |
| clarkb | jeblair: regex of '^foo bar$' | 18:46 |
| jeblair | lifeless: you can click any of "checkout, pull, cherry-pick, patch" and also "anonymous http, ssh, http" | 18:46 |
| clarkb | jeblair: will become '^foo bar$' | 18:46 |
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| jeblair | lifeless: and the displayed commands will change appropriately | 18:46 |
| clarkb | jeblair: but any mix of newline space tab etc will be chomped | 18:46 |
| clarkb | and replaced with a single space | 18:46 |
| jeblair | clarkb: gotcha | 18:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bob Ball proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move xenapi-os-testing to stackforge. https://review.openstack.org/87680 | 18:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/gear: Add access control https://review.openstack.org/84873 | 18:53 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: did you double check my counting on the split and index? | 18:54 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: nevermind I just checked it again and I did it correctly :) | 18:55 |
| bknudson | is there a way for an abandoned review to be restored? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/78241/ | 18:56 |
| clarkb | bknudson: yes change owners or gerrit admins can restore. Want 78241 restored? | 18:56 |
| bknudson | clarkb: yes, please | 18:57 |
| clarkb | done | 18:57 |
| bknudson | clarkb: ty | 18:57 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yes i did, thanks. :) | 18:57 |
| clarkb | NobodyCam: you should be ready on tripleo images now | 18:58 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: the message after you restored that patch is interesting | 18:58 |
| clarkb | NobodyCam: depending on how many nodes are still around on the old image you may still see failures for a bit but going forward it should work | 18:58 |
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| NobodyCam | so the next tests that kick off will be on the rebuilt nodes :) | 18:58 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: why would the patch experience a merge attempt after you restore it? | 18:58 |
| clarkb | anteaya: because of the 72 hour test thing | 18:58 |
| NobodyCam | clarkb: ack TY :) | 18:59 |
| anteaya | but it was never approved | 18:59 |
| clarkb | anteaya: zuul merges it for check testing | 18:59 |
| anteaya | tested yes, buy why merged? | 18:59 |
| anteaya | oh | 18:59 |
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| jlk | Is there a place to talk about generic jenkins-job-builder issues, using it in our own infrastructure? | 19:32 |
| clarkb | jlk: here is fine. We don't have a specific channel for it | 19:32 |
| jlk | kk | 19:32 |
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| jlk | So I'm working on a job-template, job-group, project setup | 19:33 |
| jlk | and I've got one template, two groups, two projects | 19:33 |
| jlk | In the template, there is an email publisher | 19:33 |
| jlk | in /one/ of the job-groups, I want to add a trigger publisher | 19:34 |
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| jlk | but my trails have resulted in errors, in that the additional publisher doesn't seen be being picked up in the written out XML. | 19:34 |
| jlk | have any of you ran into this, or can you suggest a way to get an extra trigger in one of the generated job (sets)? | 19:34 |
| clarkb | jlk: you will need a second template with the additional publisher | 19:34 |
| jlk | damn. | 19:35 |
| jlk | any way to make that second template inherit everything from the first? | 19:35 |
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| clarkb | if the actual structure of the job is different tha trequires a second job | 19:35 |
| clarkb | jlk: I don't think so | 19:35 |
| jlk | seems lame to have to copy/paste 20+ lines, just to add an additional trigger | 19:35 |
| clarkb | thats how jenkins works | 19:35 |
| clarkb | jjb could abstract it away but doesn't | 19:36 |
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| jlk | so if the jobs to be generated are exactly the same, but with the addition of or alteration of publishers, it gets a whole new template. | 19:37 |
| clarkb | jlk: what you could do is add the trigger to the job then make it noop if you don't need it | 19:37 |
| jlk | can the publishers section itself be per-job-group, something added in there that goes beyond the original tempalte? | 19:37 |
| clarkb | jlk: yes anything that changes the structure of a job (eg not just a variable) needs a new template | 19:37 |
| clarkb | because jenkins itself doesn't do conditional disabling of job chunks | 19:38 |
| clarkb | and a JJB job maps to a jenkins job today | 19:38 |
| clarkb | we could do more abstraction on top of that but don't beyond the current templates | 19:38 |
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| jlk | I suppose I could make some of these parts macros | 19:40 |
| jlk | since the builders part is the same | 19:40 |
| clarkb | that has been our approach | 19:40 |
| clarkb | condense down into macros then the copy pasta isn't terrible | 19:40 |
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| sdague | krotscheck: is there an easy way to spin up the storyboard-webclient locally? so I can make my patch work before pushing you a new version | 19:42 |
| ttx | sdague: yes | 19:42 |
| krotscheck | sdague: Yeah, its in the docs. “tox -egrunt server:prod” if I recall correctly. | 19:43 |
| sdague | ok, was looking for it in README, and didn't find it | 19:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Clarify comment about variables in git_backend.pp https://review.openstack.org/85456 | 19:45 |
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| jlk | argh | 19:47 |
| jlk | now variables in the macros aren't expanding | 19:47 |
| sdague | ttx / krotscheck: how do you get past the openid login when running locally? | 19:48 |
| sdague | because the callback is no good against localhost | 19:48 |
| clarkb | jlk: you need to pass them to the macro | 19:48 |
| krotscheck | sdague: Remove the S on https | 19:48 |
| jlk | yeah, more text | 19:48 |
| clarkb | jlk: eg macro-name:\n varname: {foohere} | 19:48 |
| krotscheck | sdague: But do it quickly before your access token expires | 19:48 |
| sdague | heh | 19:48 |
| sdague | that seems sub optimal :) | 19:49 |
| krotscheck | sdague: (fair warning, you’re fake-proxying to prod. If you want to hit your local instances it’s tox -egrunt server) | 19:49 |
| sdague | yeh, I need some prod data | 19:49 |
| krotscheck | sdague: It’s only like that when you proxy against prod. | 19:49 |
| krotscheck | sdague: If you’re running all local it’s not. | 19:49 |
| krotscheck | sdague: Though, yeah, we should fix that. | 19:50 |
| jlk | clarkb: ok, you've been great so far, one more thing. | 19:50 |
| jlk | clarkb: I want a value to come from job-group, get passed through job-template, and through again to macro | 19:50 |
| jlk | eg region: | 19:51 |
| jlk | region: is defined in job-group | 19:51 |
| clarkb | jlk: we have an example of that somewhere, one sec | 19:51 |
| jlk | then I have macro-name: \n region: {region} | 19:51 |
| jlk | and that's throwing errors. | 19:51 |
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| clarkb | jlk: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/jenkins_job_builder/config/python-bitrot-jobs.yaml#n74 | 19:52 |
| clarkb | if you specify the values in the job group like that tehy end up in the template | 19:52 |
| jlk | ah quotes | 19:53 |
| jlk | my bad | 19:53 |
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| clarkb | zaro: your branch has been created. please double check I gave it the correct initial revision | 20:01 |
| clarkb | and time for lunch | 20:01 |
| * pleia2 lunch too | 20:02 | |
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| anteaya | enjoy lunch | 20:03 |
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| zaro | clarkb: looks good. thanks. | 20:03 |
| jogo | sdague: it wouldn't help in your case, but it would help the general case | 20:04 |
| jogo | but that is out of scope of hacking anyway | 20:04 |
| anteaya | zaro: so does that change the instructions you have in the etherpad? | 20:04 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | jeblair, clarkb, mordred, could I ask you to remove a bunch of branches in sahara repos? // or grant me permissions to do it myself :) | 20:05 |
| mihgen | SergeyLukjanov: thanks! I see bot in new channel, so it should work now | 20:05 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mihgen, np | 20:05 |
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| zaro | anteaya: just slightly line #7 | 20:13 |
| anteaya | zaro: can you edit that line so it reflects what I should be doing now, when sweston and I get to it? | 20:14 |
| zaro | anteaya: just updated it. | 20:14 |
| zaro | anteaya: but you don't have to do that part. | 20:14 |
| anteaya | zaro: oh | 20:15 |
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| anteaya | what do I have to do? | 20:15 |
| arosen1 | jogo: things are working again for me with launchpad :) | 20:15 |
| zaro | this is the upgrade we were referring to: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/gerrit_upgrade_script | 20:15 |
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| zaro | anteaya: ^ | 20:17 |
| anteaya | zaro: looking | 20:18 |
| anteaya | thanks | 20:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: README.rst: Add links https://review.openstack.org/89191 | 20:20 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: SCM module: Add support for multiple Git remotes. https://review.openstack.org/80084 | 20:20 |
| jogo | arosen1: things are working for me too, but I am off of comcast ATM | 20:20 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Add date and time to reviewers output https://review.openstack.org/89666 | 20:20 |
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| jeblair | zaro: do you have a dashboard defined that mimics 'important changes'? | 20:37 |
| zaro | jeblair: nope, but i can try to setup something. | 20:38 |
| jeblair | zaro: thanks, that would be great. i think we were expecting to use the custom dashboard feature to replace that; we should make sure that is actually done | 20:40 |
| jeblair | zaro: what will that look like? will it show up in the navigation at the top or what? | 20:41 |
| jeblair | zaro: i'm trying to figure out what to tell developers who are used to clicking 'important changes' | 20:42 |
| mordred | jeblair: aren't dashboards essentailly just URLs and we'd want to add it to a custom header or something? | 20:42 |
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| jeblair | mordred: yes, but we're <1week from deployment, and i don't know what it's going to look like | 20:43 |
| mordred | jeblair: ++ | 20:43 |
| mordred | jeblair: totally agree | 20:43 |
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| jeblair | i'm trying to write the sentence "the important changes screen is going away and will be replaced by..." but i don't know how to finish that | 20:44 |
| jeblair | so even though it's theoretically possible to replace it by something, at some point we actually need to actually do that. :) | 20:44 |
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| mordred | jeblair: bah. theory is all anyone needs | 20:45 |
| jeblair | mordred: please don't joke. i'm extremely concerned about that. | 20:45 |
| clarkb | you can add them at a project level and All Projects is our root so we can put them in https://review-dev.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/All-Projects,dashboards | 20:46 |
| clarkb | https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/Documentation/user-dashboards.html | 20:46 |
| mordred | jeblair: jokes put aside. I completely agree that we need to actually see it | 20:46 |
| clarkb | as an alternative we can do the thing at the top of that doc | 20:46 |
| jeblair | clarkb: okay. so we need (a) to actually write the code for that and (b) know how that will show up for the user | 20:46 |
| sdague | jeblair: is it possible to get metrics out of gerrit to figure out relative uses out of different views? | 20:46 |
| clarkb | jeblair: yes, we need to write the query for a dashboard | 20:46 |
| mordred | sdague: apache logs probably | 20:47 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: and (b), in order for me to finish writing that sentence, i need to know how they will appear | 20:47 |
| clarkb | is it ok if I edit all projects config via the gui on review-dev? | 20:48 |
| clarkb | zaro: ^ | 20:48 |
| jeblair | clarkb: wfm | 20:48 |
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| clarkb | hrm this may not be exposed via the gui :( | 20:49 |
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| clarkb | I will edit it by hand on review-dev in my homedir | 20:50 |
| clarkb | so that others can see what I did | 20:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Derek Higgins proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Create tripleo-specs git repo https://review.openstack.org/89691 | 20:50 |
| zaro | clarkb: yeah, go nuts. | 20:53 |
| zaro | clarkb: are you going to create the custom dashboard? | 20:54 |
| zaro | clarkb: might be better if you do it since i don't know the query for 'imporant changes' | 20:55 |
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| clarkb | zaro: jeblair https://review-dev.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/All-Projects,dashboards | 20:58 |
| clarkb | zaro: there isn't an equivalent query | 20:58 |
| clarkb | zaro: we can get close | 20:58 |
| clarkb | I will add a second dashboard that I think will work | 20:58 |
| jeblair | clarkb: what's missing? | 20:59 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: whether or not you have reviewed a thing iirc | 21:00 |
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| zaro | i think that's available in secondary index feature. | 21:03 |
| zaro | i don't think that's enabled on review-dev. missing some commits | 21:03 |
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| zaro | clarkb: i believe you need to query 'reviewerin' | 21:04 |
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| clarkb | reviewrin is a group match | 21:05 |
| clarkb | and doesn't tell you if you have reviewed something only if you are a reviewr | 21:05 |
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| clarkb | aha! is:reviewed | 21:06 |
| clarkb | oh wait that is any user :( | 21:06 |
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| mordred | clarkb: I think you had to add a match criteria in the important changes patch | 21:07 |
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| mordred | perhaps we should have upstreamed only that criteria | 21:07 |
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| clarkb | mordred: they didn't want that either | 21:09 |
| jeblair | clarkb: please let me know when you have definitively decided whether it can or can not be done. | 21:09 |
| clarkb | jeblair: it cannot be done exactly | 21:09 |
| zaro | clarkb: how about query for codereview=+1 ? | 21:09 |
| clarkb | I am writing up a query that is pretty close | 21:09 |
| clarkb | actually it may work I need to test something | 21:11 |
| clarkb | https://review-dev.openstack.org/#/projects/All-Projects,dashboards/important-changes:important-changes-dashboard | 21:12 |
| clarkb | I think it works | 21:12 |
| clarkb | query = status:open (reviewer:self OR is:watched OR is:starred) NOT label:code-review,self (NOT is:draft OR NOT label:workflow=-1) limit:50 | 21:13 |
| clarkb | show me all changes that are open that I am a reviewer for, have starred, or am watching that I have not already placed a value into code review for that are also not drafts or in WIP | 21:14 |
| clarkb | that was easier than I expected. The label:code-review,self query is new | 21:14 |
| mordred | clarkb: if I have reviewed one of those chagnes, it still shows up in my list of thigns to review | 21:14 |
| clarkb | also apparnetly pushing that to a different refs/meta/dashboards/* ref was not a good idea. We should be sure to use only one ref | 21:14 |
| clarkb | makes the listing of dashboards ugly | 21:15 |
| clarkb | mordred: it correctly removed my test change for me | 21:16 |
| mordred | oh. weird | 21:16 |
| sdague | clarkb: label:code-review,self mean on the existing patch, or ever on the change? | 21:16 |
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| mordred | clarkb: I tried again on another patch too - same thing - also, this does not hide WIP patches | 21:17 |
| clarkb | mordred: bug in the worklow=-1, need to remove the NOT | 21:18 |
| clarkb | sdague: I think it is current votes | 21:18 |
| clarkb | sdague: I am still doing testing | 21:18 |
| sdague | that would be super useful | 21:18 |
| clarkb | sdague: what would be super useful? | 21:18 |
| clarkb | mordred: actually wait that looks right | 21:19 |
| sdague | if label:code-review,self does what you said it does | 21:19 |
| clarkb | mordred: oh wait think I see the bug | 21:19 |
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| jeblair | status:open (reviewer:self OR is:watched OR is:starred) NOT label:code-review,self NOT is:draft NOT label:workflow=-1 limit:50 | 21:20 |
| clarkb | yup needs to and not or | 21:20 |
| clarkb | I am making the third section do what we had it do in the past too | 21:20 |
| jeblair | cool; curious how that works | 21:21 |
| clarkb | sdague: I removed my +1 (made it a 0) on a change and it went back into my reviewable list | 21:21 |
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| sdague | clarkb: nice. That was missing in current gerrit, which made my inbox 0 lists much less useful | 21:22 |
| clarkb | ok pushed new patchset with what I think is a mostly equivalent dashbaord | 21:24 |
| clarkb | http://paste.openstack.org/show/76693/ is what I pushed | 21:25 |
| jlk | clarkb: do you know if you can make a macro for scm ? | 21:26 |
| mordred | clarkb: I still see some things with CR-1 in the list | 21:27 |
| clarkb | mordred: you are supposed to | 21:27 |
| jeblair | mordred: your own cr-1? | 21:27 |
| mordred | clarkb: yes | 21:27 |
| clarkb | mordred: they should only be removed if they are not your cr-1 | 21:27 |
| mordred | with my own cr-1 | 21:27 |
| clarkb | mordred: link? | 21:28 |
| mordred | however- things I had code reviewed BEFORE the new dashboard are properly hidden, but are not showing up in my reviewed patches section | 21:28 |
| mordred | https://review-dev.openstack.org/#/projects/All-Projects,dashboards/important-changes:important-changes-dashboard | 21:28 |
| mordred | https://review-dev.openstack.org/5275 is the change in question | 21:28 |
| mordred | is shows up in sectino #2 | 21:28 |
| clarkb | mordred: your review-dev username is mordred? | 21:29 |
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| mordred | yah | 21:30 |
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| clarkb | https://review-dev.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+%28reviewer:mordred+OR+is:watched+OR+is:starred%29+NOT+label:code-review%252Cmordred+NOT+is:draft+NOT+label:workflow%253D-1+limit:50,n,z reproduces | 21:30 |
| clarkb | now to see if we can fix it | 21:30 |
| clarkb | how does status:open (reviewer:self OR is:watched OR is:starred) label:code-review=0,self NOT is:draft NOT label:workflow=-1 limit:50 look to everyone? | 21:34 |
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| * clarkb pushes that | 21:35 | |
| jeblair | clarkb: lgtm | 21:36 |
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| clarkb | and pushed | 21:37 |
| clarkb | please refresh | 21:37 |
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| clarkb | hrm that doesn't seem to work either | 21:38 |
| anteaya | I have no changes so it is hard for me to assess | 21:38 |
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| clarkb | do I need to flush caches? | 21:38 |
| clarkb | oh wait I derped | 21:39 |
| clarkb | I think the have reviewed query need a little work too | 21:40 |
| clarkb | and fix pushed | 21:41 |
| anteaya | looking at the -1 message: -1 I would prefer that you didn't submit this | 21:41 |
| mordred | clarkb: looks good! | 21:42 |
| clarkb | http://paste.openstack.org/show/76696/ is what is in place now | 21:42 |
| clarkb | so everyone can see the queries | 21:42 |
| zaro | jeblair, clarkb : updates to openstack/2.8.4 branch, there are 4 changes. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89698 | 21:42 |
| anteaya | I encourage submissions, I just don't want them merged until the code is baked | 21:42 |
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| clarkb | there may be a way for us to make projects inherit that query and apply it only to that particular project | 21:43 |
| clarkb | which might be neat too | 21:43 |
| clarkb | but isn't necessary for old functionality | 21:43 |
| clarkb | nope doesn't look like it | 21:44 |
| clarkb | do we want to set a limit? | 21:44 |
| clarkb | for each query? | 21:44 |
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| clarkb | anyways that paste should cover us for the upgrade | 21:45 |
| mordred | anteaya: we change that in our gerrit usually - "submit" is gerrit speak for "merge" or "land this patch" | 21:46 |
| mordred | anteaya: none of us normally see the submit button, because zuul is teh one who presses it | 21:47 |
| mordred | anteaya: so the wording makes more sense in a normal gerrit installation | 21:47 |
| jeblair | we should make sure our alternate wording is in place in 2.8 | 21:48 |
| clarkb | now to document my process. I added myself to project bootstrappers group first (for push perms). Then I did mkdir -p dashboards/All-Projects && cd dashboards/All-Projects && git init && git remote add gerrit ssh://cboylan@review-dev.openstack.org:29418/All-Projects && vi important-changes-dashboard && git add important-changes-dashboard && git commit && git push gerrit | 21:49 |
| clarkb | HEAD:refs/meta/dashboards/important-changes | 21:49 |
| zaro | clarkb: lgtm. nice work | 21:49 |
| clarkb | note that each ref under refs/meta/dashboards/ creates a section at https://review-dev.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/All-Projects,dashboards and each file in that ref creates a listing under that section | 21:50 |
| clarkb | so we probably want a single ref we use, then add different files to that ref if we want more than one dashboard | 21:50 |
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| anteaya | mordred: ah okay | 21:51 |
| zaro | +1 | 21:51 |
| anteaya | zaro: gerrit-buck is unhappy on patch 2 and 4 in your lineup of patches | 21:51 |
| clarkb | jeblair: mordred: any reason not to add red hat tripleo cloud to nodepool now? | 21:52 |
| zaro | anteaya: yeah, 2-4 depends on getting 1 merged first | 21:52 |
| clarkb | I can babysit | 21:52 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: add warning if devstack run is slow https://review.openstack.org/89381 | 21:52 |
| anteaya | zaro: ah | 21:52 |
| clarkb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/83057/ is the change | 21:53 |
| sdague | krotscheck: is there a way to not have storyboard compile the lib.js so I can figure out if I'm doing the bower thing right? | 21:53 |
| jeblair | clarkb, zaro: so the navigation path for that is... "projects->list->all projects->(projects)->dashboards->important changes", right? | 21:54 |
| anteaya | zaro: buck didn't like the first patch either | 21:54 |
| clarkb | jeblair: projects -> list -> all projects -> dashboards -> important changes | 21:55 |
| jeblair | clarkb: can you stick the docs for what you did in the upgrade etherpad so we can make sure it's handy on upgrade day? | 21:55 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: yup | 21:55 |
| anteaya | jeblair: do you have a link for the infra sessions, first draft? | 21:55 |
| clarkb | anyone have a link handy? I can dig through meeting notes if now | 21:55 |
| clarkb | s/now/not/ | 21:55 |
| anteaya | clarkb: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/gerrit_upgrade_script | 21:56 |
| mordred | clarkb, zaro I don't suppose there is a way to add links to the main header is there? | 21:56 |
| anteaya | was that the one? | 21:56 |
| zaro | arg! looks like upsteram gerrrit tests failed. | 21:56 |
| anteaya | :( | 21:56 |
| jeblair | anteaya: should eventually show up on http://junodesignsummit.sched.org/ | 21:56 |
| anteaya | jeblair: thanks, will loiter | 21:56 |
| jeblair | i think there's a delay | 21:56 |
| zaro | clarkb, jeblair : i'll need to figure out what's up with upstream gerrit tests. | 21:57 |
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| * anteaya nod | 21:58 | |
| zaro | mordred: not that i'm aware of. but maybe a plugin can do it? looks like the javamelody add monitoring page. | 21:58 |
| clarkb | mordred: there is, but you have to edit html iirc | 21:59 |
| clarkb | mordred: see https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/Documentation/user-dashboards.html | 21:59 |
| clarkb | or site administrators can put the links into the site’s GerritHeader.html or GerritFooter.html | 21:59 |
| zaro | mordred: https://github.com/dluksza/gerrit-top-menu-extension-example | 21:59 |
| jeblair | i think we should remove "Code Review" from the header, btw, and move everything to the left; the settings menu is running off the right side of my screen | 21:59 |
| anteaya | omg, I don't know if I will survive Tuesday | 22:00 |
| anteaya | packed schedule | 22:00 |
| zaro | mordred, clarkb :oh wow that plugin is super simple. | 22:00 |
| jlk | clarkb: do you have anything where the builder shell uses bash and makes use of ${FOO} variables? jjb is trying to evaluate those, Im not sure how to tell it to NOT do that. | 22:00 |
| clarkb | jlk: yup, double up the braces eg ${{FOO}} | 22:01 |
| clarkb | jlk: it uses python string format() so {}s are escaped with more {} | 22:01 |
| zaro | mordred: ohh wait, you mean the column headers? then i don't think there's anything that can customize the columns. | 22:01 |
| jeblair | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SeXdZTLO45 | 22:02 |
| jeblair | draft reminder message ^ | 22:02 |
| jeblair | oh i forgot the ssh key thing | 22:02 |
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| notmyname | jeblair: random question: since paste.o.o is so terribly slow (~7.5 seconds for time to first byte), would -infra consider running something like http://paste.ronin.io against its own cloud files account? | 22:03 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I am good to approve nodepool config change to add red hat ci tripleo cloud ya? | 22:03 |
| jeblair | clarkb: wfm | 22:03 |
| anteaya | jeblair: what you have is clear to me | 22:04 |
| clarkb | notmyname: personally I would prefer to stop running a service completely, but an object store version seems like a good idea if we want to continue to provide the service | 22:04 |
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| notmyname | clarkb: it's terribly useful to the dev community. why would we stop running it (where "we" is mostly you guys, but I mean it in the sense of "the openstack community") | 22:05 |
| anteaya | I'm open to faster paste | 22:05 |
| clarkb | notmyname: because there are many alternatives and our paste doesn't bring anything new to the table | 22:06 |
| clarkb | notmyname: and most devs seem to use these alternatives already | 22:06 |
| clarkb | gist being the common one bceause you can git with it | 22:06 |
| jlk | clarkb: thanks again! | 22:06 |
| clarkb | it is also abused by spammers | 22:06 |
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| jeblair | notmyname: yeah, at first glance, i don't see why not | 22:07 |
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| zaro | jeblair: draft message lgtm | 22:08 |
| clarkb | I don't feel super strongly about not running the thing fwiw. Happy to run a thing if deemed useful | 22:08 |
| clarkb | I just notice a lot of people not using it | 22:08 |
| jeblair | zaro, anteaya: updated -- added ssh info | 22:08 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: when you say "We will also take this opportunity to change the SSH host key used | 22:10 |
| anteaya | when submitting changes to Gerrit. | 22:10 |
| anteaya | you mean you are going to be deleting the public keys in my account? | 22:10 |
| jeblair | anteaya: no. | 22:10 |
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| clarkb | hrm Go, wonder how much fun puppeting that will be | 22:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add the second tripleo provider https://review.openstack.org/83057 | 22:11 |
| anteaya | I think sweston has the same confusion about ssh keys as myself | 22:11 |
| notmyname | jeblair: clarkb: just a thought. this one was made by one of the swift contributors, and it uses swift, so it seems all openstack-y :-) | 22:11 |
| jeblair | anteaya: why do you say that? | 22:11 |
| clarkb | notmyname: ya its a good one | 22:11 |
| mrodden | jeblair: re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/88747/ what would be the advantage of putting it in openstack-dev/* ? | 22:12 |
| clarkb | notmyname: and I think trusty has useable go | 22:12 |
| anteaya | in a pm he mentioned about instructions for devs to generate keys | 22:12 |
| jeblair | notmyname: another suggestion has been to use trove :) | 22:12 |
| sweston | so you are saying that you are changing the key for host identification, not gerrit authentication | 22:12 |
| sweston | correct? | 22:12 |
| anteaya | so what will happen is that we will be prompted to add the new gerrit host ssh key to our known_hosts file? | 22:12 |
| notmyname | jeblair: trove provisions DBs. how is that a pastebin backend? | 22:12 |
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| jeblair | notmyname: the current paste is backed by drizzle | 22:13 |
| notmyname | jeblair: well you should get mordred and jaypipes to take a look at it then ;-) | 22:13 |
| jeblair | mrodden: it's where hacking is, for instance -- it's where we put tools that are used for developing openstack (but aren't the final product) | 22:14 |
| clarkb | Ithink they said something like ubuntu should update their drizzle package | 22:14 |
| clarkb | it is very old drizzle aiui | 22:14 |
| jaypipes | is there a not old drizzle? | 22:14 |
| mrodden | jeblair: ok. i dont really have an opinion on where it lives, just would like to get it published to pypi so i can use it in more projects | 22:14 |
| clarkb | jaypipes: yes apparently drizzle did a release not that long ago | 22:15 |
| jaypipes | oh? cool. | 22:15 |
| jeblair | anteaya: yes | 22:15 |
| mordred | I've got a change prepared to move our current paste to cloud db | 22:15 |
| jeblair | anteaya: or it might throw up an error | 22:15 |
| mordred | provisioned by trov | 22:15 |
| mordred | just havent' gotten around to ityet | 22:15 |
| * anteaya nods | 22:16 | |
| jeblair | anteaya: revised last section | 22:16 |
| mrodden | jeblair: if i move it to openstack-dev/bash8, do the ACL entries that are in the current patchset still make sense? | 22:16 |
| mordred | there's no real reason that our current paste should be slow ... oh, except there is no buffer pool configured | 22:16 |
| mordred | *facepalm* | 22:16 |
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| clarkb | mordred: does that mean you are going to fix it? | 22:17 |
| mordred | notmyname: I'd be fine running not-lodgeit for pastebin and backing it with swift for sure | 22:17 |
| jeblair | anteaya: i don't think that's necessarily true | 22:17 |
| mordred | clarkb: well, by "fix it" first I mean" move it to trove" | 22:17 |
| jeblair | anteaya: i'd like to leave the process documentation for when we actually have it. | 22:17 |
| notmyname | hmm...when is launchpad openid going to be replaced by an openstack-infra managed keystone deployment? | 22:18 |
| anteaya | jeblair: okay I will remove what I added | 22:18 |
| clarkb | I don't think it will be keystone | 22:18 |
| jeblair | notmyname: when web apps start accepting keystone tokens? | 22:19 |
| notmyname | jeblair: your new, fancy trove-provisioned pastebin! | 22:19 |
| notmyname | jeblair: and storyboard! | 22:19 |
| notmyname | jeblair: and gerrit | 22:19 |
| jeblair | notmyname: we're not writing a pastebin | 22:19 |
| mordred | notmyname: are you volunteering to write a patch to gerrit to make it consume keystone tokens? neat! | 22:19 |
| notmyname | lol. I was half trolling about the keystone idea (although I think it would be an interesting excercize) | 22:20 |
| notmyname | pastebin, on the other hand, is kinda painful today | 22:20 |
| jeblair | notmyname: infra runs what people show up and do, so if mordred fixes the pastebin, that's cool, or if someone shows up with a patch to replace it with the swift thing, that's cool | 22:20 |
| notmyname | mordred: when I was at RAX, we had the rule that if someone claimed something were easy, it meant that person automatically volunteered to code it | 22:20 |
| jeblair | notmyname: the foundation did hire some folks to write an openid provider so we can move off of launchpad | 22:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: add chosen dependency https://review.openstack.org/87699 | 22:21 |
| mrodden | cool | 22:21 |
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| sdague | mrodden: there you are :) | 22:22 |
| mrodden | yeah i'm alive | 22:22 |
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| sdague | would it be possible to build the bash8 base repo to preserve the history on the existing bash8 script? | 22:22 |
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| mrodden | yes | 22:22 |
| mrodden | i didn't think that was a priority but i can just pick the history from devstack | 22:23 |
| sdague | basically a selective import of devstack commits, then a commit to restructure to the cookiecutter | 22:23 |
| mrodden | yep | 22:23 |
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| jeblair | mrodden: i'd vote openstack-dev for the org. otherwise, the acls look good except that i do think you should add tag support; you'll need it. | 22:23 |
| sdague | yeh, it would be nice to not loose the contributor history, as it was more than me. | 22:23 |
| mrodden | i might not have time to get to it tonight, jeblair thats the other thing i need to get to | 22:23 |
| mrodden | its on my todo list | 22:23 |
| mrodden | i have projects taht badly need bash8 | 22:24 |
| sdague | mrodden: cool, I appreciate you diving in on this | 22:24 |
| mrodden | np | 22:24 |
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| mrodden | i'm gonna -1 the create project commit until i can get to that stuff... | 22:24 |
| sdague | sounds good | 22:25 |
| jeblair | mrodden: i'm going to go ahead and -1 it based on this conversation (so no one goes ahead and approves it) | 22:25 |
| jeblair | heh | 22:25 |
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| mrodden | jeblair: thx | 22:25 |
| clarkb | jaypipes: I was mistaken drizzle has a newer version than what is available in precise but it is ~2 years old | 22:26 |
| clarkb | jaypipes: there is a somewhat newer alpha but not a release | 22:26 |
| pabelanger | afternoon | 22:27 |
| jeblair | clarkb, mordred, anteaya, zaro: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SeXdZTLO45 ok? | 22:27 |
| pabelanger | Any idea why nodepool error'd out on the following code review? http://logs.openstack.org/75/83975/6/check/gate-nodepool-python26/2e3fd52/console.html.gz | 22:27 |
| jeblair | and sweston! ^ :) | 22:27 |
| clarkb | jeblair: lgtm | 22:27 |
| pabelanger | looks like some unit test failed "Build timed out (after 70 minutes). Marking the build as failed." | 22:27 |
| anteaya | jeblair: yup | 22:28 |
| sweston | jeblair: yes | 22:28 |
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| mordred | jeblair: ++ | 22:29 |
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| anteaya | zaro: I am conflicted on whether I want to spend the energy getting a patch into gerrit upstream to fix a documention grammar error | 22:33 |
| anteaya | how long do you estimate it would take? | 22:34 |
| jeblair | anteaya: first you would have to sign the cla and get your employer to sign the corporate cla | 22:34 |
| anteaya | we're done | 22:34 |
| anteaya | still waiting for hp legal to get back to me on something I asked about last september | 22:35 |
| mordred | anteaya: I can add you to the cla if you like | 22:35 |
| zaro | anteaya: it's kinda up to you. | 22:35 |
| anteaya | okay if it is that easy | 22:35 |
| jeblair | or, i believe in your case, perhaps just "ask your employer to add you to the list of people on the corporate cla" | 22:35 |
| anteaya | well that step is taken care of | 22:36 |
| jeblair | mordred: knows actual answers :) | 22:36 |
| anteaya | I'm so lucky | 22:36 |
| mordred | anteaya: can you log in to the gerrit gerrit? | 22:36 |
| anteaya | dunno | 22:36 |
| zaro | jeblair, clarkb: this is weird. this chagned passed on rax slave, but failed on hp slave. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89699 | 22:36 |
| jeblair | okay, sending that mail under assumption no one has any further issues | 22:36 |
| mordred | anteaya: https://gerrit-review.googlesource.com | 22:37 |
| anteaya | thats what I was looking for | 22:37 |
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| anteaya | apparently I have to sign in with a google account | 22:37 |
| mordred | well, it' a google thing :) | 22:38 |
| clarkb | wow 12MB console log | 22:38 |
| clarkb | firefox dies | 22:38 |
| zaro | jeblair, clarkb : it seemed like all 4 of the gerrit patches on openstack/2.8 fail on hp slaves. you guys know what's going on? | 22:38 |
| clarkb | zaro: no, still trying to open the massive console log | 22:38 |
| anteaya | I don't want to create a google account for my anteaya email and don't really want to sign in with my gmail email | 22:38 |
| clarkb | zaro: looks like guice broke? | 22:39 |
| anteaya | hey today is April 22 | 22:39 |
| openstackgerrit | K Jonathan Harker proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move openstack-specific config out of ::jenkins https://review.openstack.org/89708 | 22:40 |
| anteaya | I don't see a place to add my ssh key | 22:40 |
| zaro | clarkb: same build on either machine, but only fails on hp VMs. it passes on my workstation and every time it runs on a rax VM | 22:40 |
| anteaya | mordred: individual cla yes? | 22:41 |
| clarkb | zaro: can you test on an hp vm? | 22:41 |
| mordred | anteaya: you don't have to do that step | 22:41 |
| mordred | just tell me what you logged in as | 22:41 |
| devananda | clarkb: is there a way to access the default CONF settings for an oslo lib? | 22:41 |
| clarkb | devananda: no clue | 22:41 |
| mordred | anteaya: you are now added | 22:42 |
| mordred | anteaya: and should be able to upload changes | 22:42 |
| zaro | clarkb: will git it a try. | 22:42 |
| anteaya | awesome thanks, corporate verified in my account | 22:43 |
| anteaya | oh I did the individual step already | 22:43 |
| zaro | jeblair: draft msg lgtm | 22:43 |
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| jogo | anteaya: do know anyhting about d http://otc-cloud.sh.intel.com/jenkins/job/ | 22:46 |
| jhesketh | Morning | 22:46 |
| jogo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89705/ | 22:46 |
| jogo | anteaya: got a link to there jenkins but its not public | 22:46 |
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| anteaya | jogo: I get server not found | 22:54 |
| jogo | anteaya: same | 22:54 |
| clarkb | storytime | 22:54 |
| clarkb | actually maybe this is a different problem | 22:55 |
| clarkb | but getting external DNS records at Intel is a long process | 22:55 |
| clarkb | it may just be that DNS hasn't been updated | 22:55 |
| jogo | clarkb: ohh right, you used to work there | 22:55 |
| anteaya | jogo: no, I have no account listed for ci system yjiang | 22:55 |
| openstackgerrit | K Jonathan Harker proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move openstack-specific config out of ::jenkins https://review.openstack.org/89708 | 22:55 |
| clarkb | jogo: and used to create the external DNS records | 22:55 |
| jogo | anteaya: ohhh I think its someones personal account | 22:55 |
| anteaya | clarkb: who is system yjiang | 22:55 |
| clarkb | systme? | 22:56 |
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| anteaya | why is someone using their personal account for 3rd party ci? | 22:56 |
| jogo | anteaya: good question | 22:56 |
| jogo | testing? | 22:56 |
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| clarkb | if you hover over the name with your mouse you get contact info | 22:57 |
| anteaya | well this is under nova | 22:57 |
| anteaya | yes jiangyu27@163.com | 22:57 |
| jogo | thats a sketchy domain name | 22:58 |
| anteaya | at this point I would punt to mikal and let him say what he wants | 22:58 |
| anteaya | if he says this isn't allowed in nova, we can follow up | 22:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Fix typo: backsplash=>backslash https://review.openstack.org/89711 | 22:58 |
| anteaya | zaro: I have my patch ready, what commands to get it submitted to gerrit.googlesource | 22:59 |
| zaro | clarkb: still trying to run gerrit test on my hp VM. in any case all of the patches passed on review.o.o https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89698/ | 22:59 |
| clarkb | jogo: whois indicates it is somewhat legit | 22:59 |
| clarkb | zaro: cool will look | 22:59 |
| jogo | 'I have inheritance for you contact me | 22:59 |
| jogo | just got that as spam | 22:59 |
| zaro | anteaya: push origin HEAD:/refs/for/master | 23:00 |
| anteaya | did you contact them? | 23:00 |
| anteaya | zaro: thanks | 23:00 |
| jogo | anteaya: lol | 23:00 |
| zaro | anteaya: i assumed you clone from master branch. | 23:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Move docstring checks into there own file https://review.openstack.org/89713 | 23:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Move import checks into there own file https://review.openstack.org/89454 | 23:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Compile python 2-> regular expressions https://review.openstack.org/88441 | 23:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Move python 2->3 checks into there own module https://review.openstack.org/88440 | 23:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Speed up license checks https://review.openstack.org/86726 | 23:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Only compile regex for hacking_except_format once https://review.openstack.org/86695 | 23:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Move except checks into there own module https://review.openstack.org/86694 | 23:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Move comment checks into there own module https://review.openstack.org/86693 | 23:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Make test_doctest use entry points https://review.openstack.org/86692 | 23:01 |
| clarkb | wow | 23:01 |
| * jogo rebased | 23:01 | |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 23:01 |
| anteaya | zaro: I did | 23:01 |
| morganfainberg | zaro, jeblair, super excited to see gerrit 2.8 btw. | 23:01 |
| devananda | jogo: s/there/their/ | 23:02 |
| anteaya | I am still missing something though zaro: http://paste.openstack.org/show/76704/ | 23:02 |
| anteaya | morganfainberg: yay | 23:02 |
| morganfainberg | anteaya, Hiya! :) | 23:02 |
| zaro | anteaya: its 'git push ..' | 23:02 |
| anteaya | zaro: I tried that on line 4 | 23:02 |
| anteaya | it failed too | 23:02 |
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| anteaya | morganfainberg: :D | 23:03 |
| jogo | devananda: eep | 23:03 |
| zaro | anteaya: that works for me. i think the error means you didn't clone from master. | 23:04 |
| zaro | anteaya: how did you clone? | 23:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Move import checks into their own file https://review.openstack.org/89454 | 23:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Compile python 2-> regular expressions https://review.openstack.org/88441 | 23:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Move python 2->3 checks into their own module https://review.openstack.org/88440 | 23:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Speed up license checks https://review.openstack.org/86726 | 23:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Only compile regex for hacking_except_format once https://review.openstack.org/86695 | 23:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Move except checks into their own module https://review.openstack.org/86694 | 23:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Move docstring checks into their own file https://review.openstack.org/89713 | 23:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Move comment checks into their own module https://review.openstack.org/86693 | 23:05 |
| jogo | devananda: fixed ^ | 23:05 |
| anteaya | git clone https://gerrit.googlesource.com/gerrit | 23:05 |
| anteaya | was that not cloning from master? | 23:05 |
| * anteaya puts on a hat in case jogo rebases again | 23:06 | |
| jogo | haha | 23:06 |
| devananda | jogo: \o/ | 23:06 |
| zaro | anteaya: what do you get for 'git remote -v'? | 23:07 |
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| * devananda wonders when jogo will add a spelling-and-grammar-module to hacking | 23:08 | |
| zaro | anteaya: also did you add file and commit? | 23:08 |
| sdague | devananda: that was vetoed :) | 23:09 |
| jogo | devananda: I thought about adding spelling, but grammar is harder | 23:09 |
| devananda | hehe | 23:09 |
| devananda | i was sorta kidding | 23:09 |
| sdague | jogo: people just need to turn on spell checking in their editors if they care | 23:09 |
| jeblair | jogo was not, which is scary. :) | 23:09 |
| devananda | hah | 23:09 |
| sdague | heh | 23:09 |
| sdague | M-x flyspell-prog-mode | 23:10 |
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| anteaya | zaro: anita@anita-hp:~/work/gerrit$ git remote -v | 23:11 |
| anteaya | origin https://gerrit.googlesource.com/gerrit (fetch) | 23:11 |
| anteaya | origin https://gerrit.googlesource.com/gerrit (push) | 23:11 |
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| anteaya | http://paste.openstack.org/show/76705/ | 23:11 |
| jogo | sdague: thats what I do | 23:11 |
| openstackgerrit | K Jonathan Harker proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Move openstack-specific config out of ::jenkins https://review.openstack.org/89708 | 23:12 |
| anteaya | zaro: git push origin HEAD:refs/for/master | 23:13 |
| anteaya | the / between : and refs needed to go | 23:13 |
| zaro | anteaya: you change doesn't have a change-id | 23:13 |
| mordred | anteaya: all of the pain you're going through right now - this is what we automate away in these parts | 23:14 |
| sdague | jogo: wait, I thought you were a vi guy? | 23:14 |
| anteaya | zaro: how do I get a change Id for my patch | 23:14 |
| zaro | anteaya: you should see instructions on your push attempt to run a command to allow gerrit to create a change id. | 23:15 |
| anteaya | mordred: yay us | 23:15 |
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| anteaya | k | 23:15 |
| zaro | anteaya: something with a curl command, let me look. | 23:15 |
| clarkb | you have to install the hook | 23:15 |
| zaro | anteaya: git-review does it automatically. | 23:15 |
| zaro | anteaya: run this 'curl -Lo $(git rev-parse --git-dir); scp -p -P 29418 zaro0508@khais-air:hooks/commit-msg ${gitdir}/hooks/' | 23:16 |
| zaro | anteaya: but change with username@gerrit.googlesource.com | 23:17 |
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| zaro | anteaya: actually, if that's not right it might be one of these commands https://git.eclipse.org/r/Documentation/user-changeid.html#creation | 23:20 |
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| anteaya | zaro: the error message gave me the change id | 23:23 |
| anteaya | so I copied it into the commit message | 23:23 |
| anteaya | https://gerrit-review.googlesource.com/#/c/56260/ | 23:23 |
| anteaya | let's see how long this takes | 23:23 |
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| zaro | i'm surprised that wasn't caught before. gerrit reviewers are very picky about that stuff. | 23:26 |
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| zaro | clarkb: was reverify removed? | 23:30 |
| anteaya | reverify no bug was | 23:30 |
| anteaya | but it works if you have a bug number | 23:30 |
| zaro | anteaya: thanks. | 23:31 |
| anteaya | np | 23:31 |
| zaro | clarkb: would there be a bug number for jenkins slaves going offline during build? | 23:31 |
| anteaya | thanks for the review | 23:31 |
| zaro | clarkb: http://logs.openstack.org/43/86843/3/gate/gate-jenkins-job-builder-docs/ed374fe/console.html | 23:32 |
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| clarkb | zaro: that is a known issue with hpcloud az2 | 23:33 |
| clarkb | it has a slightly lower than 1 fail per hour rate last I checked | 23:33 |
| clarkb | ~35 failures over 48 hours when I looked | 23:33 |
| zaro | clarkb: it's been approved, but can't run 'reverify no bug', so what to do? | 23:34 |
| clarkb | zaro: recheck it or reapprove it | 23:34 |
| clarkb | or find the bug and use that number | 23:34 |
| clarkb | which is ideal | 23:34 |
| jogo | sdague: *vim* has spell check | 23:35 |
| clarkb | :set spell | 23:35 |
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| anteaya | zaro: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1284371 | 23:37 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1284371 in openstack-ci "gate error: Looks like the node went offline during the build. Check the slave log for the details.FATAL: /var/lib/jenkins/logs/slaves/*/slave.log (No such file or directory)" [High,Triaged] | 23:37 |
| anteaya | how's that one? | 23:37 |
| clarkb | I think that is the one | 23:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for multiple Gerrit servers in Gerrit trigger https://review.openstack.org/86843 | 23:43 |
| zaro | oops sorry i rechecked before i got your msg | 23:47 |
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| anteaya | np | 23:55 |
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