Thursday, 2013-11-14

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fungiclarkb: looking00:28
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fungiclarkb: lgtm. i guess we weren't actually re-exec'ing d-g00:31
clarkbfungi: we were but the rexec was happening on the old code00:32
fungigot it00:33
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jog0any easy way to find the failure rate for tempest?01:09
jog0or how many revisions it takes before merging something01:11
jog0sdague: ^, I am playing with gate math01:12
jog0and trying to get numbers that are accurate01:12
openstackgerritDennyZhang proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: defensive coding for
sdaguejog0: my brain power is expended, but I was going to dig in the morning01:19
sdagueto do just that01:19
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jog0any graphite gurus here?01:19
sdaguejog0: you need the answer tonight? or will late tomorrow suffice/01:20
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openstackgerritHunter Haugen proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Pass $mysql_password through to gerrit class
jog0i'll keep dinking a round01:21
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reedlots of thoughts on the proposal raised by nijaba :)01:23
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pleia2reed: I can only really talk about infra/qa stuff (so having more folks there as well would be good), but if you saw my blog I'm in a good position to do so and my schedule is wide open next week01:38
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reedpleia2, great!01:39
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clarkbjog0: the irc byte limit cut you off02:33
clarkbany chance you can tinyurl it?02:33
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clarkbis that showing a ratio02:34
clarkboh it is a percent02:34
jog0y axis is percentege02:34
jog0I haven't figured out how to set the label yet02:34
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clarkbits interesting that the check percentage is climbing steadily (I suppose that indicates that people are pushing bad code?) while the gate is relatively flat02:36
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jog0hold on more sexy coming soon02:37
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jog0gate and check neutron and full02:39
jog0gate and check * neutron and full02:39
jog0this is pretty slick02:40
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jog0devstack-full-check has a 10* failure rate wow02:41
clarkbthats the swift stuff02:42
jog0clarkb: yeah hopefully we fixed that02:42
clarkbthough that particular bug seems to maybe be falling off after the bump to 6GB02:42
jog0to the Ml02:42
jog0ML, going to send out a gate math email02:42
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jog0clarkb: recheck because its not your fault per patch = failure_rate * tempest_jobs * patch_revisions02:43
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jog0and with failure as high as 10%02:44
jog0and 4 tempest jobs02:44
jog0and a few revisions02:44
jog0it gets bad02:44
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clarkbthe probability of a change failing is the sum of the probabilities that any given test fails because the tests are independent (sort of because bad changes skew the numbers as they aren't actually independent)02:46
clarkbbut if we are just looking at the gate we should get fairly reasonable probabilities out of the gate since in theory those are all good changes02:47
jog0so in the example its 0.1*4*502:47
jog0for 5 revisions02:47
jog0or two recehcks02:47
jog0I like now neutron gate got much better this week02:48
jog0actually both gates did02:48
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jog0lifeless: hows that instead of a syntax thread03:16
clarkbjog0: its ok lifeless has his own synatx threads ;)03:17
jog0I noticed :)03:17
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dimsjog0, added tests in - thanks for the feedback!03:20
lifelessjog0: aaaaa03:23
lifelessjog0: bah, failnet.03:23
lifelessjog0: nice.03:23
lifelessjog0: I'd still like to remove the period check from hacking; think there is enough projects ignoring it now?03:23
lifelessjog0: since you brought up syntax :)03:24
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jog0lifeless: I agree with your two comments by the way. but to clarify the 5% isn't one bug but a collection of bugs03:37
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openstackgerritNoorul Islam K M proposed a change to openstack-dev/cookiecutter: Adjust _TRUE_VALUES to be consistent with OpenStack projects.
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clarkbjhesketh: are you going to stackforgify turbo-hipster?03:51
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jhesketh__clarkb: already done03:52
clarkbjhesketh: if you do that the process will create a new group for you and we will add you to the group at that time03:52
* clarkb looks better03:52
jhesketh__I'm not sure if gerrit has been updated though as I can't see the group03:52
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clarkbyeah ok I don't see the project yet either03:52
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clarkbjhesketh__: I think manage projects is still having trouble03:53
clarkbit didn't even create the project on github03:54
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clarkbjhesketh__: I will poke at it in the morning. Feel free to bug me tomorrow if it isn't working by then03:54
jhesketh__clarkb: no worries, Thanks :-)03:54
jhesketh__clarkb: Just be careful of this one when you update things:
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clarkbok, I will probably kick it on a just turbohipster until it works03:55
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clarkboh we can run the automagic stuff on specific projects03:57
clarkbso I will ignore the reordering for now :)03:57
clarkbsorry english it fails me after dinner03:58
jhesketh__ah, no worries, sounds good03:58
jhesketh__english fails me at all times03:58
clarkbthough maybe I should bug mordred do look at it since he approved the cahnges :)03:58
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clarkbI thought this was going to be an easy bug to close :)04:01
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jhesketh__sorry! :-(04:05
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lifelessrussellb: I think a secondary sort by received reviews might be interesting06:59
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lifelessI have a friend trying to sign up with the foundation07:07
lifelessand they are getting an error07:07
lifeless'"You must add at least one Affiliation."'07:07
lifelessthis seems very strange to me07:07
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nati_uen_Hi I'm writing docs about "How to build 3rd Party OpenStack Gating System"
nati_uen_I wanna know how to use nodepool07:27
nati_uen_do you have any docs on this?07:27
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lifelessnati_uen_: - docs you might want to contribute to07:31
lifelessnati_uen_: and
lifelessnati_uen_: plus nodepool has it's own docs, of course07:32
nati_uen_lifeless: Thanks!07:32
nati_uen_lifeless: where can I get it?07:32
lifelessnati_uen_: the nodepool source tree, I don't think it's published anywhere yet07:33
nati_uen_lifeless: it looks like README is blank07:33
nati_uen_Ah sorry07:34
nati_uen_README.rst is blank but it has README07:34
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openstackgerritMarcus Nilsson proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added support for Stash Notifier
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nati_uenoHi! Where can I find how to setup gearman?09:12
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openstackgerritRoman Prykhodchenko proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Support of Ironic
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chmouelif someone from the ci has a bit of spare time adding this group
openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Added task ordering
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-dev/hacking: Fix import grouping
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openstackgerritRoman Prykhodchenko proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Support of Ironic
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mikais there an ETA for next release of available? there are quite some nice improvements available since 0.5.0 release :)10:32
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Revert "Revert "Use Ubuntu Cloud Archive on precise nodes""
openstackgerritNoorul Islam K M proposed a change to openstack-dev/cookiecutter: Adjust _TRUE_VALUES to be consistent with OpenStack projects.
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add build-publisher to jenkins-job-builder
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hasharmika: I am not sure when releases are cut11:03
mikahashar: who might know? :)11:04
hasharI can't even find the launchpad project11:04
hashara bug filled in would certainly raise awareness11:05
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mikawill file a bugreport there, let's see :)11:11
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mikahashar: filed it as
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hasharmost of them are in US11:19
hasharso you might want to ping here later in the evening11:19
mikaok, thx :)11:19
openstackgerritSergey Lukjanov proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Make requirements jobs voting for savanna repos
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Communicate to user when we skip a requirement
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Base python 2.7 skip list on parsed names
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add display-name job property.
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add build-publisher to jenkins-job-builder
hasharmordred: you should enjoy your breakfast instead of voting in Gerrit :D11:28
mordredhashar: my new rule for myself is that I do my review queue first thing11:28
mordredthat way it doesn't get out of hand11:28
hasharI tend to do that as well11:28
hasharbut eventually ends up spending most of my day only doing reviews :(11:29
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Make requirements jobs voting for savanna repos
mordredhashar: I spent a full day doing them the other day - but now it's actually not terrible11:30
mordredI can do the morning's reviews in less than an hour11:30
openstackgerritOndra Machacek proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Fix format of debug message to be compatible with py2.6
openstackgerritSergey Lukjanov proposed a change to openstack-infra/jeepyb: Fix savanna repos mappings
SergeyLukjanovhey guys11:37
SergeyLukjanovit looks like requirements push script doesn't work correctly11:38
SergeyLukjanovafter updating hacking11:38
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add the tomograph project to stackforge.
SergeyLukjanovit pushes update version only to the savanna-dashboard and python-savannaclient repos11:38
SergeyLukjanovbut not to the savanna11:38
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add rubick project to stackforge
SergeyLukjanovtrying to find corresponding logs11:39
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ogelbukhmordred: many thanks!11:39
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Make -o option required if using 'test' command
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zhiyanhello any body can help take a look a grenade/upgrade test failure? seems glance-api pid has no permission to access /tmp, this caused code can't get lock successful. thanks11:53
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Stop running stable/folsom jobs
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mordred^^ woot12:00
mordredfungi: morning12:00
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mordredclarkb, fungi: I just thought - we have an opt-in list for people to subscribe to requirements changes12:00
mordredperhaps we should use that same list to tell if they should have the mirror enforced12:01
mordredinstead of basing it on their repo prefix name12:01
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/jeepyb: Map all fuel stackforge repos to fuel at launchpad
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mordredfungi: also, I could really use a second review on
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openstackgerritAntoine Musso proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: New base class to declare test cases
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add new HP Cloud regions
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Gate current clients on stable branches
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Gate current clients on stable branches
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hasharmordred: would you mind restoring for me please ?13:03
hasharfor some reason I am lacking Gerrit right to restore changes abandoned for which I am not the author :/13:03
mordredhashar: done13:03
mordredthat's an admin role I believe13:03
openstackgerritAntoine Musso proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added support for Git shallow clone parameter
hasharthank you!13:03
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openstackgerritChristopher Yeoh proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Adds new/merge rate to reviewers information
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mordredrussellb: check the krtaylor line13:31
mordred0% doesn't seem happily rendered :)13:31
openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Added task ordering
freyeshi, does somebody know Antoine Musso's IRC nickname?13:32
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mordredfreyes: yes. it's hashar13:33
mordredfreyes: and he dropped off about 15 minutes ago13:33
freyesmordred: OK, thanks ;) .. so he's not online13:33
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ilyashakhathi, a small question on gerrit / - is there a way to retrieve group members? rest api or ssh?13:53
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mattymoilyashakhat, you mean who has access to gerrit groups?13:55
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ilyashakhati'd like to have a list of users belonging to a group13:56
ilyashakhatfor example to know who belongs to nova-core13:57
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ilyashakhatit is possible to get that data via web ui, but i'm looking for more automated api13:57
krtaylormordred, looks like I am causing problems again, I guess I just need to do more reviews13:58
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krtaylornm, that's Received14:00
krtaylorbut I still need to do more reviews14:00
ilyashakhatit means that you ought to post more patches :)14:01
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krtaylorilyashakhat, +114:05
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krtaylorArxCruz, is doing that for the team at the moment14:06
russellbmordred: yeah, that was supposed to be infinity :)14:11
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openstackgerritAntoine Musso proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: cloverphp publisher
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fungimordred: since the folsom job removals merged, i've opened the d-g one up for review (just needs one more +2)
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fungimordred: as far as requirements being enforced on arbitrary projects, i agree it may ease the transition for projects pre-incubation14:32
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mordredrussellb: haha14:35
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mordredfungi: +A14:36
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Fix format of debug message to be compatible with py2.6
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openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Pagination added to task lists
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zhiyanfungi: morning. can you help take a look a grenade/upgrade test failure? seems glance-api pid has no permission to access /tmp, this caused code can't get lock successful. thanks14:43
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fungizhiyan: having a look real quick, but you may also have more luck raising attention of the grenade developers on #openstack-qa14:45
zhiyanfungi: sure14:45
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fungizhiyan: i'm not seeing where it's mentioning a permissions error on /tmp. did you find that in a different log?14:51
fungithis almost looks more like the issue we've been seeing where swift has insufficient space for glance to write images and causes a 500 error14:51
* fungi wanders off in search of that bug number14:52
zhiyanfungi: from the log i can see glance-api can not get file lock forever, you can see it from above log which i ping you.14:53
fungiahh, got it. i was searching after the line you linked, not before14:54
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fungilooks like glance was erroring before that in the log too. i see other similar backtraces prior to that one14:56
zhiyanfungi: very strange to me, on the local i can run the code normal, the file lock can be allocated, but on the upgrade tests, from log i can see glance-api can't get lock, and code be blocked.14:56
fungithe earliest instance i see in that log is at
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zhiyanfungi: yes, so you can see the issue on the glance-api side:
openstackgerritSergey Lukjanov proposed a change to openstack-infra/jeepyb: Fix savanna repos mappings
zhiyanglance-api cache middle code attempting to grab file lock, but never got it15:04
openstackgerritRyan Petrello proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Run tox tests for pecan to gate against WSME, Ceilometer, and Ironic.
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fungizhiyan: keep in mind that /tmp is (as you would expect) entirely world-writable on our devstack test slave nodes, so presumably if there's a permissions issue, it has to do with a file (or subdirectory) created in /tmp as one user and then trying to get a write lock on that file with a different user15:07
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openstackgerritAntoine Musso proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: raise JenkinsJobsException instead of Exception
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/pypi-mirror: Add distribute to the pre-install list
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mordredfungi: thank you15:12
fungizhiyan: what is the default lock_path for glance-api? looks like that patch is setting it to /tmp so presumably it was putting lockfiles somewhere else previously (or does having that option commented out in the config stop it from making lockfiles at all?)15:14
zhiyandefault is /tmp15:15
zhiyanfungi: in glance-api.conf template file15:15
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fungiokay, so i guess that addition to is introducing a new lock named for the image id15:15
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Remove folsom-specific logic
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fungizhiyan: is this normal in glance-api? "Stderr: '/bin/sh: 1: collie: not found\n'"15:19
zhiyanfungi: yes, it's normal15:20
zhiyani'm sure15:20
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mordredthat's a normal thing?15:22
fungiit's pretty crazypants, but maybe that's normal in glance15:23
mordred        """Create known stores. Mock out sheepdog's subprocess dependency15:23
mordred        on collie.15:23
mordredsomething tells me that the mocking out is not working15:23
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fungithough doesn't seem to be introduced in the change in question at least15:24
mordredthat's because the mock is mocking out a method that is not used for running collie15:24
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anteayaDafna: here you are15:32
Dafnaanteaya: yes :)15:32
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fungizhiyan: so, i've poured over the logs from that run and i'm still not seeing an actual permissions error for /tmp (and i wouldn't expect one since it's definitely world-writable on those systems). was that just speculation on your part or can you show me where it actually mentions something like "insufficient permissions on /tmp/whatever"?15:35
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Fix rendering issue
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Fix rendering issue
zhiyanfungi: sorry i can't give you that also. i just conjecture that from the log15:37
fungizhiyan: i retrieved, uncompressed and grepped through all the logs from that test run15:37
zhiyanfungi: glance-api try to get file lock, but never get it. thank you.15:38
fungizhiyan: it's also hitting that change consistently and i can't find the same pattern of failure on any other tested changes, so my guess is it's either a problem in that change or an issue in either glance or tempest which is being uncovered by it15:38
fungirather uncovered by that change in the context of a grenade post-upgrade tempest run15:39
zhiyanfungi: may be, but i personally don't think so tbh.15:39
fungiso probably your best bet is to get glance, grenade or tempest devs looking closer at it15:39
fungifrom an infra sysadmin perspective, i don't see anything awry with the systems that job runs on which would explain the problem15:40
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fungii certainly can't make permissions on /tmp any more open than world-writable15:40
zhiyanfungi: other changes all can pass all Jeninks test, except this one, since i know this change using a file lock. (other one is scrubber code)15:40
fungiso my guess is it's trying to open a file already owned by another user, or in a subdirectory created by another user, or somewhere else you're not expecting (maybe the lock dir option is being ignored/modiefied?)15:41
zhiyanfungi: ok, thanks for you support anyway.15:41
fungizhiyan: here's one possibility...15:41
fungikeep in mind that grenade insists that the upgrade from the previous version to the one with your change applied *must* work with the old config files (your config file changes are not being applied in the new environment)15:42
fungiso if this change depends on config changes, that's possibly your issue15:42
fungiif those config changes are really just reflecting the existing default values for those options like you say, then it probably isn't the cause. but it's something to double check15:43
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openstackgerritSergey Lukjanov proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Ignore in authors building
anteayain this code:
anteayahow do I find out who wrote line 615 and 636?15:49
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anteayamust be some git magic I can use to find the commit for it, would there be?15:49
mordredfungi, clarkb:ok. my last patch to pypi-mirror did not fix it15:50
mordredfungi, clarkb: so I'm resorting to actually testing15:50
mordredthe next patch will work :)15:50
fungianteaya: you want to read up on the 'git blame' command15:51
fungiit will show you the most recent commit sha, author and date for every line in a file15:52
anteayafungi I will do that, thank you15:52
fungiin the simplest case, just run 'git blame neutron/db/' and then look for the line in question15:53
anteayafungi I will start there15:53
pleia2reminder, I have name change stuff to do this morning (court + social security) so I'll be out for a couple hours15:55
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anteayapleia2: happy name changing15:55
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anteayain the personal schedule category, I am driving with my parents on their annual migration south this year - it is time - week of Nov 2515:56
anteayathen in Paris the next week, so hit and miss for email and irc15:56
pleia2anteaya: that's thanksgiving week here, so it may be a bit quiet anyway :)15:56
anteayanot that I am in here much right now, but for info15:56
anteayayay for timing15:57
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anteayafungi: look at all that lovely information15:59
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anteayafungi: I see this -> f639788c quantum/db/ (openstack16:00
anteayais there an openstack user that makes edits to files?16:00
anteayathat is confusing16:01
fungipossibly... git show f639788c16:01
fungiyou can also do it that way if you like web browsers16:02
anteayafungi I know Sylvain16:02
anteayaI'll ask him to change his username16:03
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fungiapparently he has his git author real-name set to "openstack" but committer real-name is still "Sylvain Afchain"16:04
fungichances are he wrote the patch and committed it to his repository on one machine, then pushed it to gerrit for review from another machine16:04
fungipossibly with a git format-patch and git am step in between16:05
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fungiat least that's one of the easiest ways i can imagine it ending up that way16:05
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anteayafungi: I asked one of his co-workers to ask him to change it16:06
anteayasince I can't see he is on irc atm16:06
anteayaand your theory may be correct16:07
fungiyeah, i'm betting he was hacking the patch on a devstack environment or something and then recommitted it while preserving the original author name, so probably not a misconfiguration per se, just a confusing workflow16:08
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anteayafungi you are probably right, the username was already changed to the commiter name16:12
anteayanot sure how many patches landed as openstack16:12
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/pypi-mirror: Don't upgrade setuptools or distribute
mordredfungi, clarkb: ^^16:12
mordredalso, dstufft ^^16:12
fungimordred: what specifically was the reason? does mysql-python insist on an earlier version or something?16:15
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mgagneor maybe openstack is self-aware and writes its own code16:15
fungijust curious why having setuptools/distribute already installed causes that16:15
fungimgagne: it definitely does, in fact16:15
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fungiwe have more than one change-generating ci job16:16
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mordredfungi: I honestly have no idea16:18
fungifair enough. giant ball of confuse16:18
openstackgerritMichael Prokop proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Deprecate projectName setting of CopyArtifact
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fungishould just replace some of that script with a comment which says "sacrifice more chickens"16:19
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mordredfungi, dstufft:
mordredthere is the smallest reproducible test case16:21
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mordredis slightly smaller16:23
fungiso we first install/upgrade pip, wheel and virtualenv; then build wheels of pip, setuptools, distribute and virtualenv; then after the freeze install/upgrade pip and wheel inside the second virtualenv?16:23
mordredfungi: yes. that's right16:23
mordredwe do the first round so that pip, setuptools and friends have wheels available in our mirror16:23
fungiso we're building wheels of whatever version of setuptools and distribute are installed by default by virtualenv?16:24
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fungino, i guess that actually downloads the latest ones before building wheels of them16:25
fungisince that's being done from the context of the upgrade_format pattern16:25
anteayafungi I bought a rubber chicken in HK for test running purposes16:26
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fungiso the intent is really: get latest pip, wheel and virtualenv; use those to retrieve and build wheels of latest pip, setuptools, distribute and virtualenv; then install latest pip and wheel inside the second virtualenv16:27
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driptonDoes anyone know if we control the credentials for sqlalchemy-migrate on PyPI?  I need to do a new release, and being able to change the info there is part of it.16:33
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fungidripton: looks like it...
fungi"Package Index Owner: ches, evyaro, jandd, openstackci, sdirector "16:39
fungithose last two are our release automation and (i believe) mordred16:40
driptonfungi: thanks, I didn't see openstackci when I looked before16:40
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driptonfungi: How do I check to see if our CI tools are setup to automatically update PyPI for a particular project?  (openstackci in that list means they *could* be, but there might be a flag to turn on somewhere.)16:41
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russellbwe've averaged 478.7 reviews a day for the last 90 days, neat.
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fungithat means our atcs are averaging roughly 0.3 reviews a day16:46
russellb318.3/day by core reviewers as a group16:46
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fungithat's more like 2-3 reviews a day on average for cores16:47
* fungi can't remember the exact core reviewer count16:47
russellbnot sure how many cores we have16:47
russellbit's supposed to be in the output here, but it's wrong16:47
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fungiyeah, i've got a mostly working script which runs multiple queries and recursively solves the included groups (because in gerrit groups can include groups) but it's nontrivial16:48
fungiparsing permissions out of all acls and then listing the projects on which a given reviewer has +1aprv16:49
driptonThanks for your help fungi.  It appears everything I need is set up; I just need to exercise it.16:49
fungii should finish polishing that and publish it somewhere, but it needs gerrit admin access to run since it has to do direct db queries16:50
russellbsome way to get a dump from it would be one less thing reviewstats has to track in its repo16:51
russellbwe have json files mapping repos and core teams to programs ...16:51
fungii wish gerrit provided finer-grained access to some of that data. maybe 2.8 does a better job of that than 2.416:51
fungipart of the problem is that it's a moving target though, so i can at best generate a snapshot in time, but not really a history of when someone was or wasn't core on particular projects16:53
anteayarussellb: is there a way to tell in one file how many cores each project has?16:54
fungiif only gerrit maintained group membership using files in a git repo16:54
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fungianteaya: for the most part, you can go to admin->groups in gerrit and click on projectname-core, then members and count the list (but also look below the members list to see if other groups are included and look at those too if so)16:55
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anteayafungi: I'll do that16:56
fungi(and then de-dup common members if you're dealing with one or more additional included groups)16:56
russellbyep that's best16:56
russellbi have this in files ... perpetually out of date though ...
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openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Fix core member count
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russellbso my thing for all projects over the last 90 days should have said 184 core team reviewers16:58
russellbso roughly 1.5/day per core reviewer16:58
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openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Show average reviews per day
zaroilyashakhat: did you figure out how to get gerrit group info?17:13
anteayarussellb: thx17:14
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jog0looks like we fixed bug 1225664 (swift 50x errors)
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mordredjog0: w00t18:06
anteayajog0: way to go, knocking those bugs down18:07
jog0I think there we have a QA effort misalignment, in that the integrated projects should be the ones fixing there own bugs18:07
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mroddenquestion for -infra: we have some db2 and qpid chef cookbooks that we us to do deployments of openstack and set it up with db2/qpid support. they are currently internal only but we want to put them out in the open for people to work on and use. would it be acceptable/possible to put these in stackforge?18:08
jog0in this case (and not trying to pick on anyone) swift didn't deliver a sane devstack env for swift18:08
clarkbmorning /me is running late today18:08
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mordredyay! it's clarkb18:09
mordredclarkb: review me!
mordredclarkb: (also, good morning)18:10
clarkbmordred: line 246 you still grab distribute18:11
clarkbmordred: but that is just a wheel18:11
clarkbshould we remove it from tehre as well?18:11
mordredyes. that's just to build the wheel18:11
mordredclarkb: having it there did not affect any breakages18:11
mordredclarkb: (I actually tested several iterations locally this time)18:12
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mroddenmordred: "we're using a new enough version of pip and virtualenv now" would it make sense to mention which versions? just a question that i thought of when looking it over18:12
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mordredmrodden: yeah- I could mention that for sure18:14
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mordredfor that matter18:14
mordredclarkb, mrodden: should I put virtualenv into the requirements.txt ? we do kinda rely on it existing18:14
mordredin fact, I do not think that pypi-mirror should depend on pip. I think it should depend on virtualenv - all of the operations it does are inside of virtualenvs18:15
mroddeni think virtualenv pulls in pip18:15
mroddenat least its own copy of it18:15
mroddennot sure if that woudl be an issue or not18:15
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/pypi-mirror: Don't upgrade setuptools or distribute
mordredthere you go - I think that's more correct18:17
mordredI updated the commit message18:17
clarkbmrodden: that shouldn't be a problem and I think is the behavior mordred wants to rely on18:17
clarkbwe don't explicitly need pip because we have virtualenv which gives us pip18:17
clarkbjog0: so 6GB helped?18:17
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jog0I figure wait a week or so and see if that fixes it all together or just makes it happen much much less18:19
jog0graphite goodness18:19
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Separate mailing list for StackForge projects
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jog0fungi: woot18:25
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Separate mailing list for StackForge projects
fungigrr, fat fingers this morning18:39
fungiwell, afternoon now18:39
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mordredfungi: it's always morning in my brain18:41
fungimoar coffeeeeeeeEEE18:42
zaromee tooOOOOOO18:42
clarkbmordred: can you review fungi's first folsom killing patches18:42
mordredclarkb: I landed them already I believe18:43
clarkbmordred: and do you have time to figure out why the projects.yaml changes that were merged yesterday didn't do anything18:43
clarkbmordred: oh great18:43
mordredclarkb: race condition. I re-ran manage projects and all is good18:43
clarkbis that a new problem18:43
mordrednope. it's the same old one18:44
mordredwe need to put a retry in there I think18:44
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fungithe last few times i've witnessed it, the impression i get is that we're making too many calls to github's api and either catching some small percentage of call failures which makes us bomb out prematurely, or tripping a threshold and getting ungracefully throttled/blocked18:46
fungilately if i try to manually fire a full manage-projects, it rarely runs to completion and usually bombs out after a bunch of github api errors18:48
fungibut running it for just one project usually works fine18:48
mordredyah. this is one of the reasons I want better stateful stuff18:48
mordredI suppose I could rewrite manage-projects to use taskflow18:49
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clarkb:/ we can probably do a lot to optimize the number of github api calls we need18:52
clarkbalso make the PR closer bot run once an hour or so18:52
anteayadid we identify this was a process to consider salting?18:53
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anteayawikipedia seems to be down18:54
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anteayano sorry, just the page I was after18:55
mordredclarkb, fungi: <-- I think we should add iroinc to the gate jobs before landing that18:55
mordredanteaya: yes, we did identify that as a thing that might want salting18:55
fungithough in this case the benefit from salt is further downstream from where manage-projects is running18:56
fungifor example on the git servers18:56
anteayamordred: so would you be re-writing manage-projects as well?18:56
anteayafungi: ah18:56
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mordredanteaya: dunno. haven't thought enough about it yet18:57
anteayaI'm sure it will come to you in a vision18:58
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fungimordred: agreed. self-testing that change would be helpful18:58
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add Ironic to the gate
mordreddevananda: ^^19:01
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mordreddevananda: right?19:01
mroddenreading through, would i just have to push up a patch to add some new projects to stackforge?19:01
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mordredmrodden: yup19:01
mroddenlooking at adding chef cookbooks for db2 and qpid19:01
mordredmrodden: there's a pile of chef cookbooks on stackforge already in fact19:01
mroddenthe db2 one was what i was mainly wondering about19:01
mroddenwe use it and would liek to make it available for others outside to use19:02
mroddenbut i'm not sure how "openstack related" is it19:02
clarkbjhesketh: you are now a member of turbo-hipster-core. you can add more core members as you like19:02
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mroddenit is*19:02
* mrodden needs more caffiene19:03
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Add taskflow (used by cinder + others) to requirements
harlowjamordred hope thats ok for u19:03
devanandamordred: since i'm not totally sure how to read that, i assume it means those tests will be run at check and gate for changes to ironic and python-ironicclient19:06
mordreddevananda: yes19:06
dimsharlowja, nice! any reason for "<0.2"? (api changes?)19:07
mordreddevananda: romcheg submitted a patch to add ironic ot devstack-gate - so I figured we should start running devstack-gate on ironic changes before turning that on19:07
devanandamordred: and we don't want to enable ironic in check-tempest-devstack-vm-full in general yet19:07
harlowjadims seems safe, 0.2 doesn't exist yet, so it was relatively arbitary :-P19:07
harlowjai can put < 1.019:07
devanandamordred: right. that's romcheg's patch. let's not enable it everywhere yet :)19:07
mordreddevananda: we don't?19:07
harlowjadims i'm up for making it a different number :)19:07
devanandamordred: well. we do. but let's get a little confidence first19:07
mordredno - romcheg's patch would enable it everywhere19:07
devanandamordred: i think we're saying the same thing now19:08
devanandaenable all the check, gate, post, etc, on ironic changes. but don't gate other projects' changes on ironic -yet-. right?19:09
dimsharlowja, was curious that's all.19:09
harlowjanp :)19:09
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mordreddevananda: right. which means don't land romcheg's patch yet19:09
mordredhowever, we probably want to make a job that only runs on ironic changes which adds the ironic services ot the list before running devstack19:10
reedmordred, thanks for pushing to public the discussion about core/integrated from the foundation-board list19:10
mordredso that you can start to get comfortable19:10
devanandamordred: yes19:10
devanandamordred: i think taht's waht romcheg was trying to do19:10
mordreddevananda: awesome. I will leave some feedback19:10
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mordreddevananda: I have left feedback on romcheg's patch19:15
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ArxCruzALL: Is there a way in jenkins to skip some tests when tempest jobs are running ?19:21
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reedRyan_Lane, pleia2: the meeting next week is canceled, thanks for offering availability19:30
krtaylorArxCruz, to clarify, other than manually adding decorators19:30
ArxCruzkrtaylor: yes, exactly :)19:30
ArxCruzkrtaylor: I believe mordred have the answer ;)19:31
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driptonSo I git pushed a tag for sqlalchemy-migrate 0.8 release to gerrit a couple of hours ago.  stackforge sees it but PyPI did not update.  Anyone know where any logs would be where I could check for errors?19:32
fungidripton: did you follow the instructions at to the letter (signed tag, et cetera)?19:33
fungii'll take a look19:33
fungilooks like you did...
fungii'll dig into the job logs19:35
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driptonfungi: I did sign the tag, but I didn't do a milestone-proposed branch because I was just tagging existing work on master.  I don't *think* that should matter but...19:35
fungiit shouldn't19:36
fungipypi upload job seems to have gotten a 404 grabbing the tarball:
fungichecking to see where the tarball build ran and what got uploaded19:37
mordreddripton: a m-p branch is not needed19:37
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fungiversioning problem... look at the end of
driptonI also get a 404 trying to get that tarball, but seems to exist.  The "dev" is the difference19:38
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fungidripton: yeah, if i 'git checkout 0.8' and 'tox -evenv python sdist' i too get a rather than sqlalchemy-migrate-0.8.tar.gz19:47
driptonok, I'll dig into the and see if I can make "dev" go away.  Thanks fungi19:47
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fungikeep in mind you'll want to release a 0.8.1 or something for that. no take-backsies on replicated tags. causes a huge mess19:48
driptonfungi: ack19:48
fungidripton: normally the .dev suffix is, i think, something pbr adds when it thinks you're on a commit which isn't tagged. in this case that seems wrong so something's probably being misdetected there19:49
fungimordred: ^ alternate ideas?19:49
driptonfungi: I see tag_build = .dev in setup.cfg  Chasing through docs to see if that means something.19:50
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SpamapSHi. We have a "contrib" set of unit tests in Heat that really need to be able to run more like stackforge tests, even with an alternate requirements.txt, because we want contrib to be able to depend on things not in global req's. But we'd like to gate Heat on those unit tests passing. Thoughts?19:52
clarkbSpamapS: I would setup a new job that runs those tests with different config settints19:53
clarkbthen you can gate on it and it can have different requirements and so on19:53
SpamapSclarkb: ok cool I thought that would work. Thanks.19:54
fungidripton: yeah, based on what i've seen in our other projects using pbr we usually don't set that, or we set it to an empty value19:54
driptonfungi: removing that tag_build line from setup.cfg then running your tox line made the .dev go away19:54
driptonfungi: so I'm going to push a review to remove that tag_build line, then try another release19:54
clarkbthough making it do different requirements is an exercise left to the reader :)19:54
SpamapSclarkb: tox.ini can do it right?19:54
reedi have finally got my my hands on the archives of the old launchpad list19:54
SpamapSdeps = -r{toxinidir/contrib/requirements.txt}19:55
clarkbSpamapS: sort of, pbr will actually use requirements.txt by default even without tox19:55
fungidripton: from what i saw of the jobs which triggered at least, it should get as far as trying to upload it to pypi, so if it fails next time it's probably either going to be permissions or invalid trove classifiers19:55
reedrockstar, yt?19:55
clarkbso you will need to convince pbr that the requirements it needs are elsewhere19:55
clarkbI think there may be an env var you can set to do that19:55
SpamapSoh lurvely19:55
clarkbor an env var to install no requirements19:56
clarkbthen you can do dep management outside of pbr19:56
fungithe skip_pip_somefoo envvar for pbr i think?19:56
* fungi doesn't recall the particular envvar name19:57
fungiclarkb: SpamapS: SKIP_PIP_INSTALL=119:57
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fungiunless that went away in favor of single-version-externally-managed?19:58
fungimordred: ^ ?19:59
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SpamapSok so that would allow us to setup our venv with tox's deps= bit and then run tests?19:59
clarkbSpamapS: yup that is the idea at least19:59
fungiSpamapS: i believe so. you might also have a look at what horizon's tox.ini does for testing with older django19:59
fungias far as having tox second-guess your deps for a particular testenv20:01
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rockstarreed, hi20:09
reedrockstar, do you have time to merge the old mbox archives of the general list on
rockstarreed, I don't currently, but I can find time soon.20:10
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reedrockstar, ok, I'll keep you posted20:11
clarkbtoday is information overload day, I have just managed to finish skimming email. do I read irc scrollback? at this rate I am going to get nothing done :)20:12
clarkbJJB core folks, we have a bug requesting a new JJB release and I think that is a great idea. I haven't been able to keep up with JJB reviews recently. Are there outstanding changes that we should try to review and merge before pushing a new release?20:13
clarkbhashar zaro mgagne ^20:13
mgagneclarkb: we should check for pending bugs. new features can wait otherwise we will never be ready to release, it's an ongoing work. otherwise we can do a rush and try to merge a much change as possible before the release. does it have to be today?20:15
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clarkbmgagne: it doesn't need to be today20:16
clarkband ++ to focusing on bug fixes20:16
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clarkbI don't think we have to rush, more take a look at the queue figure out which things should go in (bug fixes simple features ready to go etc), get those in then releaase20:20
zaroactually last release was on 2013-06-20 so a release is due.20:20
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zaroi'm reviewing patches today.  i suggest we do one at end of week.20:21
clarkbyup. I just don't want to force one out. Want to make sure we are actually happy with what we release20:21
zaroi'll try to get as many off as i can by then.20:21
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zaromgagne: you like that idea?20:23
LinuxJedimordred: (or anyone) can you help marcrp with a git-review -D problem he has hit?20:23
mgagnezaro: yes, we can try to merge as much as possible before friday and then release20:23
mgagnezaro: it's not like we cannot do an other release after that one20:23
clarkbLinuxJedi: sure, stop using git review -D :)20:23
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LinuxJediclarkb: it is known not to work?20:24
zaromgagne: you like the idea of 3 month cadence?20:25
mgagnezaro: why not =)20:25
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clarkbLinuxJedi: no, it should work. But drafts themselves are problematic (it is why we have WIP instead)20:25
clarkbLinuxJedi: so general advice is to not use drafts20:25
clarkbfunny things happen when you have a parent whose change is a draft, people get confused when tests don't run or why they can't vote on a change and so on20:25
LinuxJediclarkb: the problem here is after a rebase it doesn't want to push the draft up :)20:26
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fungiand the only reasons why we generally see people using drafts are because they think it's secure (which it isn't), because they don't feel the change is ready for review yet (in which case set it wip), or because they're not comfortable working in the open without a lot of polish first (in which case, sorry, get used to making mistakes in public)20:28
zaromgagne: ok.  we don't have permissions to release. so we just need to shout in this channel every 3 months.20:28
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fungiLinuxJedi: got a paste of the error? i think you can't push a new patchset to someone else's change if the most recent existing patchset on it is a draft20:30
fungiso there's one possible cause20:30
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/pypi-mirror: Don't upgrade setuptools or distribute
clarkbzaro: mgagne: I think we can change who has access to do releases. It is currently set to openstack-ci-core. I wouldn't change it to JJB-core simply because we like the release groups to be small, but that small group can be something different than openstack-ci-core and JJB-core20:31
Shrewssubstituting WIP for draft is not always an acceptable solution. If core devs don't want to see endless emails about reviews they may have to make, then that doesn't work.20:31
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Shrewss/make/look at/20:32
mgagneclarkb, zaro: is zaro familiar with the release process?20:32
LinuxJediits ok, I /dev/null most of my openstack mail now anyway, volume is too high because I still get CI stuff :)20:32
fungiLinuxJedi: that change is already merged, so that error is normal20:32
LinuxJedifungi: that isn't the change he is drafting though20:33
LinuxJedifungi: that is the one he rebased against20:33
fungiLinuxJedi: did he happen to reuse the change-id header from that merged one though?20:33
fungialso results in the same error message i think20:33
LinuxJedihe probably used whatever the default does, and I suspect that is what the default does20:34
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fungithe default is for git-review to generate a new change-id. i mean did he reuse the change-id from the earlier merged change, not from an earlier patchset of the current change20:34
clarkblifeless: comment for you on
fungii've seen people cut-paste-edit commit messages and forget to throw away the old change-id20:35
clarkbmgagne: he is, he has done them for the gearman jenkins plugin20:35
LinuxJedino idea.  Would be easier if I could show him how to use IRC :<20:36
fungiLinuxJedi: you are welcome to borrow my clue by four, or any other lart of your choice ;)20:36
fungii think i have some cluebats, clueclubs and cluepaddles lying around here too20:37
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lifelessclarkb: answered20:38
jog0so I am seeing grenade timeout in the check queue20:39
clarkblifeless: so with someFixture() as foo: foo.dostuff ?20:39
fungijog0: quite possible. check jobs can end up running on slower rackspace slaves20:39
lifelessclarkb: f'rinstance yes20:39
lifelessclarkb: or with someFixture() as foo: r = foo.repo20:40
lifelessor whatever20:40
jog0fungi: can we bump the timeout by a little  bit?20:40
jog0say 70?20:40
jog0or is that a bad idea?20:40
jog0its timeing out just at the end20:41
zaromgagne: yes, i'm familiar with how to release.20:41
fungijog0: seems like an okay choice to me, unless you think you can make grenade faster20:41
fungiif you want to propose a change to that, we can discuss it in review20:41
jog0sdague: ^^20:42
jog0fungi: cool20:42
zaroclarkb: i'll create a patch to setup new gerrit group to allow releasing jjb?20:42
jog0I know how to make grenade faster, get more sdague's20:42
fungijog0: the factory where they made them burned down, or so i heard. extreme supply shortage20:42
zaroclarkb: how about new group name 'JJB-project-managers'?20:44
sdaguejog0: can graph the grenade run times?20:44
mgagnezaro: sorry if I can't be more active atm, lot to catch up with here20:44
sdagueI'm really surprised something hit 60 minutes20:44
sdaguethat was running at 24 pretty regularly20:45
jog0sdague: don't know where we record run times20:46
jog0oh wait jenkins does taht20:46
* jog0 files a bug on ifra20:46
sdagueI thought there was a meter on it in graphite already20:47
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jog0sdague: if so I don't know where to look in graphite20:47
fungisdague: jog0: if you're only seeing it on check jobs and not on gate jobs, it's possible the reason is that some portion of check jobs run in rackspace rather than hpcloud20:47
fungiclarkb: did we get a way in logstash to correlate by provider?20:48
jog0fungi: that is what I am seeing20:48
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clarkbfungi: no it requires extra magic20:48
sdagueyeh, so that graph tells me that the only time we hit the timeout, we were going to fail anyway20:48
clarkbsince jenkins doesn't actually know anything about providers20:48
* jog0 wants to file a bug on rax cloud: your slow20:48
fungiwe are fresh out of extra magic20:48
clarkbyou can see the node name in the console logs thouhg20:48
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sdagueand the timeout was hit because one of the tests was wedged and timed out20:48
jog0sdague: where is the failure in
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fungiyeah, if you're seeing it consistently on a variety of changes, and it got most of the way through before being killed, then bumping the timeout a little may make sense. if you're seeing it early in runs, infrequently, and not correlated well to a particular provider then it probably won't help you20:51
jog0clarkb: filed a bug for you
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sdaguegrenade not running in parallel?20:51
jog0lets change that instead of the timeout20:52
sdagueso... you'll have to create a second smoke target20:52
sdagueright we use smoke for neutron and for grenade, for different reasons20:52
sdagueso smoke is set serial right now20:53
clarkbspeaking of smoke and exercises we should add gating jobs to devstack that run those20:53
jog0can we just change smoke to parallel?20:53
clarkbjust to make sure we don't regress them20:53
jog0clarkb: ++20:53
sdaguejog0: no, then you fail all neutron jobs20:53
jog0don't they fail anyway ;)20:54
sdaguejog0: ok, so do this20:54
sdague1) tox.ini for a smoke serial target20:54
sdague2) layout.yaml chang to move neutron to smoke serial20:54
sdague3) tox.ini change for smoke to be parallel20:54
sdagueand I'll make sure the tempest reviews get priority to get them through20:55
jog0sdague: ack20:55
sdaguebut we need to stepwise them to not break neutron20:55
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openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Wire up support for DEVSTACK_GATE_SMOKE_SERIAL
openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Explicitly set smoke tests in neutron test to be serial
jog0sdague: ^21:11
portantejust has a check job time out after 60 minutes21:11
jog0portante:  what check job?21:12
jog0portante: we are fixing that right now21:12
portantethe tests were running fine21:12
jog0just pushed up 4 patches for it21:12
jog0the short is rax is slow21:12
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sdaguejog0: did you push the tempest patch?21:13
sdaguefor the new target?21:13
fungidid it get narrowed down to that being the deciding factor (timeouts were consistently on rax nodes, not just in teh check pipeline)?21:13
jog0fungi: a spot check pointed to only timeouts on rax21:13
jog0fungi: see
jog0fungi: and search for '1 hr 0 min'21:14
jog0sdague: I am standing by to fix your -1s on my patches21:15
sdaguejog0: I'm good on the first one21:15
jog0I think I missed something in the d-g and config patches21:15
sdagueand I got to do office packing for the next hour, so I'll come back and make sure it lands21:15
jog0fungi: ^21:15
fungiah, cool21:16
jog0clarkb: btw I know we have said this a lot but, I want to say it again elasticsearch is amazing21:19
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fungiclarkb: mordred: *sigh*
fungifrom logstash to logcrash21:21
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fungiwe've nearly burned through 0.5tib of log storage in a little over a week21:22
fungidid we perchance get more verbose on anything of note? (or maybe just started running more tests?)21:23
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dimsweird, lot more gate jobs are in queued status compared to check jobs in zuul...any ideas?21:27
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jheskethclarkb: thanks for setting up turbo-hipster :-)21:28
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jog0dims: yes21:30
fungidims: i think it's just a matter of which ones got uploaded/approved first21:31
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jog0dims: if gate is flakey (see gate will slow way down21:31
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dimscool. i should stop staring at a specific job :)21:31
jog0due to many jobs being restarted21:31
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dimsi see21:31
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clarkbjog0: :)21:32
clarkbfungi: no idea21:32
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clarkbelasticsearch hasn't seen huge growth21:33
clarkbbut we are filtering everything <= DEBUG out21:33
jog0dims: with gate jobs failing at about 7% of the time, and 3 jobs, gate will fail 20% oftime21:33
clarkbfungi: maybe our deletes aren't working properly?21:33
jog0so stablize gate, gate queue goes faster21:33
fungiclarkb: it's possible21:33
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jog0clarkb: can you review,n,z21:34
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jog0which is linked with,n,z21:34
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jog0dims: see my attempt at doing basic math about why gate is slow
dimsah thanks21:36
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jog0clarkb:,n,z *21:37
fungiclarkb: i'm doing 'find /srv/static/logs/ -type f -mtime +191 -name \*.gz' to see if stuff got left behind when last weekend's delete ran21:38
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clarkbfungi: ok21:38
funginothing so far21:38
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anteayaclarkb: is dekehn in the office today?21:39
fungiand i do see a little dip in the graph over the weekend, so it did something at least21:39
clarkbfungi: n-cpu is fairly large21:39
anteayahe isn't on irc and someone has a questions about code he wrote21:39
clarkbanteaya: dkehn works from home21:39
clarkbin another state :)21:39
anteayaoh, I thought he was in seattle21:39
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anteayathat's not seattle21:40
dimsclarkb, that n-cpu has the unncecessary lines from iso8601.iso860121:40
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clarkbfungi: n-cpu being 8MB compressed is that only thing that stands out to me in that random set of logs21:40
fungiooh, so maybe it's the iso8601 verbosity issue biting us21:40
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clarkbfungi: could be21:40
fungiwhen did that crop up?21:41
anteayahis irc nick and gerrit nick are off by one e21:41
dimsfungi, y, there was a change in oslo, let me sync it to nova21:41
anteayahe is here21:41
clarkbthat basically doubled our log size after compression (using back of napkin maths)21:41
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fungithose are the best maths21:41
fungiin a bar setting, those are in fact the only maths21:41
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Shrewsfungi: when i'm in a bar, math is the LAST thing on my mind21:47
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Shrewsfungi: when i'm NOT in a bar, math is the LAST thing on my mind21:48
Shrewsspeaking of which... we need to go to a bar soon21:48
Shrewsand do math or something21:48
fungiShrews: beermaths. almost but not quite entirely unlike bistromathematics21:48
* Shrews pokes olaph21:49
funginot to be confused with beermats, which are a totally different sort of thing21:49
fungiShrews: olaph: name the time and place (or ask me to name them) and i'll be there21:49
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dimsfungi, clarkb - this should take care of the log sizes. if not, can look further after this lands21:51
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clarkbdims: fungi: thankfully we will see in the check jobs if that helps21:52
fungidims: okay cool. in the meantime, since the existing logs aren't going to age out until the spring thaw, i should probably add another terabyte to static.o.o21:52
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fungiwhich at this point is only a 25% increase to /srv/static/logs anyway21:53
fungiclarkb: mordred: ^ opinion?21:53
clarkbfungi: ya I think that is reasonable21:54
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olaphbar = very yes21:54
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olaphthe past several times have been in Durham, so I suspect it's fungi's turn to pick21:57
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openstackgerritPeter Liljenberg proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added support for Jenkins plugin Blame upstream committers
fungiclarkb: mordred: also, just a bit of trending analysis, even purging logs older than 6 months, what "6-months of logs" means has been steadily increasing at a rate of a terabyte a month since july/august21:59
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fungiclarkb: mordred: at this rate, by the end of the year we'll be storing an average of a terabyte of compressed logs a month, and come the icehouse release it'll be more like 2tb a month22:01
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anteayawow, as well22:14
openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Remove query for bug 1217734
openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for bug 1251448
jog0clarkb: quick queries.yaml update ^22:17
jog0anteaya: bug 1251448 is a new neutron one22:17
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anteayajog0: thanks22:18
openstackgerritPeter Liljenberg proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Updated gitblit projectname
anteayajog0: 75 hits on it?22:21
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jog0anteaya: yeah, I don't know why your thanking me for finding more things for neutron fix ;)22:22
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Remove query for bug 1217734
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for bug 1251448
jog0anteaya: 165 in last week22:23
anteayajog0: ouch22:23
anteayawell at least you are talking to me about it22:23
anteayaand letting me know22:23
jog0anteaya: and it got worse recently22:23
anteayaanyway of tracking down why?22:23
jog0thats the query over all time (2 weeks AFAIK)22:24
jog0anteaya: not sure about tracking down the cause, I was just trying to identify the bug at all22:25
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jog0but it did get much worse today22:25
anteayaokay thanks22:25
jog0perhaps because we fixed other bugs22:26
anteayaanybody else being hit by this or just neutron22:26
anteayaclosing the hole22:26
jog0so in elasticsearch click on 'build_name' on the left hand side22:26
jog0that will show you which builds are affected22:26
anteayaokay I will wait until the Monday meeting then, unless someone else brings it up:
jog0you can also click on 'build_status' and see this always lines up with a failure22:27
jog0anteaya: thanks!!22:27
anteayahow handy22:27
anteayayeah, well if we can close the hole so that the only project affected by neutron bugs is neutron22:28
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anteayaI would consider that helpful22:28
anteayathen when they are frustrated enough, they will do something within the group22:28
jog0anteaya: as long as neutron is in the integrated gate thats impossible AFAIK22:28
jog0anteaya: but we do make thing worse for them at least22:29
anteayaby fixing the bugs22:29
anteayait is a good direction22:29
jog0fungi: I hear zuul has an option to run jobs multiple times. Cna we use that in neutron22:29
jog0just do everything twice for them22:29
anteayanot trying to apply thumbscrews but if all else falls on deaf ears22:29
jog0or is that a bad idea22:29
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clarkbI don't think zuul has that option22:32
clarkbI think jeblair was suggesting it hsould be added thouhg22:32
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jog0clarkb: ohh22:37
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anteayajog0: I'm a little shorter than yourself on the ml22:38
anteayaI salute you22:38
anteayashorter as in briefer, terse22:38
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jog0we try to use pypi.python.org22:39
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jog0I thought we don't trust to be up22:40
jog0anteaya: I am going to shame people into stop asking for code reviews  on the ML22:40
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clarkbjog0: we don't trust to be up22:42
jog0clarkb: see the swift-function test22:43
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jog0pip 1.4 install22:44
anteayaw00t! music to my ears: "The policies described here are in effect immediately."
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Ryan_Laneupgrading the wiki for security release22:46
jog0anteaya: nice22:46
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anteayaI wish that one of the requirements of the point of contact was pariticpation in the -neutron irc channel22:48
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anteayabut at least there is a policy22:48
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anteayaso let's give it some time and see what happens22:48
fungijog0: mordred: re pypi.p.o, i suspect we want openstack-dev/devstack tools/ to allow us to override PIP_TAR_URL and then pass that through set to our mirror when run devstack-gate-wrap.sh22:49
fungithanks Ryan_Lane!22:50
jog0fungi: yeah22:50
fungianteaya: he did at least say they have to show up in the weekly neutron irc meetings, so that's better than no irc i guess22:50
Ryan_Lanewell, I take that back22:51
Ryan_Lanethe damn security updates aren't in git yet22:51
fungijog0: mordred: or maybe have it parse a url out of the usual dotfiles pip looks at?22:51
Ryan_LaneI hate that we do tarball releases and announcements without releasing the patches in git22:51
Ryan_Laneit'll be another hour22:51
fungiRyan_Lane: we do the opposite ;)22:52
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jog0fungi: any reason not to default to pypi.o.o all together?22:52
fungijog0: runs it. we want random people to not get shunted to our mirror22:53
fungijog0: (see: "devstack is a developer tool first and a ci platform second")22:54
jog0fungi: ah22:54
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jog0fungi: ahh this uses github too22:54
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Fix core member count
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Show average reviews per day
fungijog0: yeah, several magnitudes of ick there22:55
jog0well it uses pypi or github22:55
anteayafungi: yes it is, you are correct22:55
anteayaperhaps he is easing them onto irc22:56
* jog0 files an infra bug and will go back to his scheduled programming 22:56
fungijog0: technically, that's a devstack bug ;)22:57
jog0fungi: yeah cought that after I said it22:57
fungior at least we'd need to make changes there to address it22:57
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fungisoren: uvirtbot hath forsaken us23:01
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krtaylorjust curious, how was the contributor list made on
krtaylorit looks like it missed contributors with merges after Grizzly freeze, maybe it was started mid April?23:04
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devanandathis is an odd looking patchset from jenkins:
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devanandawhat's in trunk seems already match the global-requirements file. why is jenkins trying to change it?23:05
fungidevananda: there's been an issue with the requirements proposal job running for requirements stable branch merges, and wanting to propose them to master on the projects23:08
devanandasounds like it23:08
devanandashall i just ignore?23:08
fungiit's not yet branch-aware23:08
fungiyes, just ignore23:08
jog0devananda: don't ignore, yell at mordred instead23:09
jog0and then ignore23:09
devanandamordred: ^^^ :)23:09
clarkbfungi: we should manually abandon all proposed changes and disable the job until it is working23:09
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jog0clarkb: ++23:12
jog0proof that neutron is broken23:13
jog0anteaya: ^23:13
jog0neutron fails way more then  nova-netwokr23:13
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* anteaya looks23:14
jog0after doign a moving average over 200 data points neutron gate fails 20% of the time23:15
jog0err 18.33%23:15
anteayajog0: where is the comparison with nova-netwokr?23:15
jog0and check fails 28% of time23:15
jog0*-tempest-devstack-vm-full = nova-network23:16
jog0at what failure rate do we un-vote a project?23:16
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anteayaso we are still always testing everything against nova-network?23:16
anteayajog0: exactly23:17
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jog0anteaya: yes, see results above for why23:17
jog0and your scary bug list23:17
anteayajog0: right23:17
anteayawell you can always make a motion to the TC asking for some direction on that question23:17
jog0sdague: yo uaround?23:17
sdagueyes, briefly, what's up?23:17
anteayawhen does a project get un-voted23:18
jog0anteaya: not a bad idea, if a job goes over a certain threshhold we de-integrate until fixed?23:18
jog0the gate that is*23:18
jog0sdague: neutron is hurting me (well us)
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sdaguejog0: ok, sure, that's not entirely news23:19
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack-infra/gerritlib: Add connection attempt limit
jog0sdague: so gate-*neutron has a 18% failure rate at the moment (200 point moving average)23:19
jog0and check has a 28% failure rate23:19
anteayajog0: I think the TC needs to come to some determination23:19
jog0sdague: which means its hurting everything and slowing down dev23:19
jog0sdague: what anteaya said ^23:20
jog0sdague: so at what point can we make neutron non-voting?23:20
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack-infra/gerritlib: Add connection attempt limit
jog0sdague: because these numbers are awful23:20
sdaguewhat's our gate queue depth look like?23:20
sdaguesure, but they aren't actually that different from normal23:21
sdagueyou're just spending a lot of time looking at them now :)23:21
anteaya12 in check, 15 in the gate23:21
anteaya0 queued events23:21
sdagueat a 15 deep gate, at prime PST, I think it's pain we live with23:22
anteayaI do think this kind of decision needs to come from the TC23:22
jog0sdague:  true, I am only now realing *how* bad business as usual is23:22
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jog0sdague: it hurts a lot more in the number of rechecks we need in checks23:22
anteayaand they can't make a decision in one meeting23:22
sdaguejog0: I think the important thing is to build some long term trending, and focus on the specific races that are the biggest issues23:22
jog0sdague: thats exactly what we have now23:23
sdaguethe reality is there is actually more neutron channel activity on working on issues than I've seen in a while23:23
jog0graphite has long term trends, and elastic-recheck has the bugs23:23
sdaguewell, what percentage of races does it have?23:23
jog0sdague: I don't know how to find that yet :(23:23
fungikrtaylor: i think that list came from the same dataset bitergia used to build but reed may know more23:24
jog0I think we need to wire elastic-recheck to emmit graphite data23:24
sdagueright, I actually kind of do, but you know, changing jobs means I can't quite get down to it yet23:24
jog0sdague: eveything falls apart when you change jobs apparently23:24
sdaguewell... I'll try not to do it that often :)23:24
jog0sdague: but the question I want to bring up, which I think anteaya has a good answer to is:23:25
reedfungi, krtaylor: I honestly don't remember anymore where it came from23:25
reedi can dig further or krtaylor just give me the list of people to add23:25
jog0can we have a policy to make a project non-gating if its gate job fails over x percent of time23:25
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jog0I guess we don't have great numbers to answer that yet23:25
anteayaI have an item on the neutron meeting agenda for next week:
anteayawould be great if you both could be there jog0 and sdague23:26
sdagueyeh, honestly, I think we need to give folks specifics so they can go after them. So point them at the top 3 reset bugs, and keep tracking those until fixed23:26
clarkbjog0: I don't think we should have that policy23:26
jog0but what i do know is that 28% of the time you will have to use 'recheck' because of a neutron job failing23:26
clarkbwe are a collaborative project people should collaborate23:27
sdaguejog0: answer the question of the most important bugs to fix to get the reset race down23:27
clarkbinstead of sweeping the pain under the rug we all bear it23:27
anteayaclarkb: are you in -neutron, idling?23:27
sdagueagree with clarkb23:27
clarkbanteaya: no, I have tried very hard to not sit in any of those channels23:27
jog0sdague: I am drafting a list of the most important bugs23:27
sdaguejog0: cool23:27
clarkbtoo distracting and EHARDTONOTBUTTIN23:27
jog0sdague: I guess I just didn't realize how bad things were23:28
sdaguethat's an actionable thing, and something to bring into the neutron discussion23:28
krtaylorreed, it should be the same as the people that got a havana contributors badge, right?23:28
sdaguejog0: now you understand why my tone is what it was during the session :)23:28
anteayaokay let's just take a peek at this log:
anteayatimestamp: 2013-11-13T08:18:2423:29
reedkrtaylor, uhm... not sure. The ATC definition is a bit wider than 'people who contributed to the current release'23:29
sdaguebecause I think our path forward is about being specific about what fixes would be the best bang for the buck23:29
sdagueand markmcclain already knows they need to rewrite their agent core to handle the races23:29
anteayaclarkb: I think i might need you to butt in for a bit23:29
sdaguewhich he's working on23:29
krtaylorreed, ah, ok, but it should be people that merged a patch that went into the release?23:29
clarkbanteaya: but I explicitly don't want to :)23:30
reedkrtaylor, yes, that for sure23:30
notmynamemordred: around? I saw your name on the internet and wanted to ask you about it23:30
sdagueso I don't want to go lynch mob on them while they are working towards solutions, that seems un-gentlemenly23:30
anteayaclarkb: I don't blame you23:30
reednotmyname, really? which name was it?23:30
notmynamereed: heh. turns out mordred is listed as an original maintainer of python-eventlet in ubuntu precise. and I want a backport23:31
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jog0sdague: true enough, but its at the point where we need to run 'recheck' a lot23:32
jog0so much that I should just write a 'recheck' babysitter for my own patches23:32
sdagueyeh, agreed, but before going crazy, lets get better and quantifying things23:33
sdaguein reality the gate stability goes in waves, and people don't go and fix races until we get a rash of bounces23:33
sdagueso turning stuff off won't fix things23:33
jog0sdague: yeah, I think we are getting close to getting good numbers23:33
sdagueI agree23:33
jog0sdague: no but it will mhide the problem from me :)23:33
sdagueyeh, but then you wouldn't care about it any more :)23:34
sdagueand I like not being alone in caring about it :)23:34
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sdagueanyway, it's time for me to go home and shred this drive. I'll be pretty spotty for being online until end of next week, then back in a normal flow23:35
jog0sdague: ^_^23:35
anteayasdague: congratulations and happy trails23:35
anteayasdague: it will be email only for me for the last week of Nov and first week of Dec23:36
anteayaso let me know when you know anything about Montreal23:36
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anteayatime for me to do something else23:40
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openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Remove query for 1240256
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krtaylorreed, I had a few minor merges after Grizzly freeze that went in Havana, but it makes we wonder if others were missed too23:48
krtaylorit may be that the gather date was set after summit23:49
reedkrtaylor, it's possible23:50
reedsend me an email please with the details to add and i"ll amend the page23:50
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jog0top 5 gate bugs23:53
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