Thursday, 2013-10-31

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reedrussellb, you there?00:13
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SlickNikclarkb / mordred / lifeless: pypi caches seem to be updated. I'm seeing the fix in the new release and trove int-tests are running green again.00:20
SlickNikThanks much! <300:20
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lifelessSlickNik: \o/00:20
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clarkbSlickNik: yay00:33
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sdagueclarkb: and I thought we'd fixed that tempest test00:48
sdaguethat thing is crazy, it fails like once a month00:48
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openstackgerritRyan Petrello proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Run tox tests for pecan to gate against WSME, Ceilometer, and Ironic.
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sdagueI don't really know why, I think it's a timestamp race, so I put in a debug patch, so when it fails some time in dec again, maybe we can figure it out01:12
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sdagueclarkb: I've been starting to think about jobs that would actually test the d-g setup scenario correctly, but specifying ZUUL_REFS ourselves for know whacky scenarios in openstack01:22
sdagueit would be a series of devstack jobs. Something that would make a good beer conversation.01:23
clarkbmanipulating what it tries to test to get coverage?01:24
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sdaguebasically some completely contrived scenarios on branches and zuul refs to make sure it's setting up the right thing01:30
sdaguealso, I wonder if we could make a test job that actually blows away all of the script, and tries it again01:30
sdagueso we could actually test the whole thing01:31
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sdaguethe recheck completed -
sdagueI was also explaining to a college friend my ideas about logstash (he's a bioinformatics post doc)01:33
sdagueand he said "oh, you should read the following bayesian analysis book, as it should give you the framework to do it"01:34
lifelesssdague: whats the book01:34
sdagueand like an idiot I only just realized that is basically what I wanted to do01:34
sdaguethat being bayesian analysis on the logs01:35
lifelessoh wow, 60 bucks for kindle edition01:35
sdagueyeh, it's a text book01:35
sdaguebut he liked it01:35
lifelessI wonder if kahn has similar material yet01:35
* lifeless grabs a sample.01:36
sdaguehe also recommended just reading the section of the R manual on bayesian stuff, he said that would probably be pretty useful01:36
sdagueanyway, time to get some sleep tonight01:36
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dimsfungi, no key-signing party? we could pick a time for people to show up somewhere specific?02:25
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fungidims: i'd love to do something official, but it's a lot of planning and prep to do it at the volume of attendance i'm anticipating at a summit. i definitely want to arrange a (maybe member company sponsored) after hours key signing shindig at the j summit though, and we've got plenty of time to hash out how that should go down03:04
fungithis go round, i'm hoping to at least pester my fellow release cycle management and infrastructure cores to sign each others keys next week03:06
fungibecause that's where we can start to benefit most from it03:06
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lifelessfungi: don't do it after hours03:18
lifelessfungi: its a core important thing for the community03:18
lifelessfungi: get a timeslot from thierry for it during the design summit03:18
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fungilifeless: that would be my preference too, but i'm worried about having a big enough space (the design summit rooms are usually smallish)03:20
fungithough maybe we could co-opt a dining area or something03:21
clarkbperhaps a dining hall post/pre lunch03:21
lifelessfungi: the thing about organising it officially...03:22
lifelessfungi: is that we can organise it officially.03:22
lifelessfungi: a pub etc would be way worse03:22
lifelessclarkb: ++03:22
fungitoo true03:27
clarkbgah someone changed the list-id for openstack-dev and derped my filters :)03:29
clarkbyeah extra content was added: \(not for usage questions\) <- I should wildcard that stuff out03:30
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewday: Add all the TripleO projects.
openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewday: Ignore editor backup files.
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewday: Be explicit to vim that bin/reviewday is python.
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lifelessjog0: see for an example of a modeline that your 'configure it locally' argument doesn't help with *at all*04:59
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mordredlifeless: 54664 is a bug. bin/reviewday should not exist06:34
mordredthe fact that you have to trick vim is a key indication of that06:34
mordredsrrsly, I think the reason I agree with jog0 on modelines is that python has a VERY prescriptive coding style, unlike other looser languages like C++ or Java06:37
mordredwhere the modeline can help to convey local culture06:37
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mordredour modelines do not describe things different from vim's defaults06:37
mordredso they are superfluous06:38
mordredand we should not have bin/* scripts, because we they should be console_scripts06:38
mordredalso - beer - but also, I just had to help sandy with lawyer math06:39
mordredif anyone wants the fun:06:39
mordredthere's the problem06:39
mordredand here:
mordredare the limits06:39
lifelessmordred: well, mmm, still disagree- te use of pep8 is a local choice. it's not like go where there is Just One style06:42
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mordredlifeless: I grok that - BUT - it is what the editors default to too06:49
mordreddivergence from pep8 for pytohn is more of an old-school "I'm a special pony" choice these days06:49
mordredand if you are a person who is running around saying things like "screw you, I'm configuring vim to use tabs!!!" then you are already too smart06:50
mordredso, what the modeline does is configure vim - but it's configuring it to the things that are already vim's defaults06:50
mordredit's like saying "yup. those things you were already going to do unless overridden. do those. oh - and if you overrode them? use your local settings, because they take precendence anyway"06:51
lifelessmordred: I have no idea what vim's defaults are :)06:53
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mordredlifeless: ok - I stand corrected. vim's defaults are not correct. neither does the modeline do the right thing06:56
mordredlifeless: to test this, I removed the modeline, as well as my local .vimrc and .vim stuff06:56
mordredlifeless: and vim did ENTIRELY the wrong thing with the tab key - which is basically what the modeline theoretically fixes06:56
mordredlifeless: so my original thoughts were false in their assumptions of the facts06:58
mordredlifeless: but I still think that we should remove the modelines- just now because they are not actually doing what we think they are06:59
mordredand I cannot construct one that does that is of a reasonable length06:59
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lifelessmordred: remember you can abbreviate things06:59
mordredand I cannot construct one that does at all07:00
lifelessI believe vim by default doesn't honour modelines which is one of jog0's pointer07:01
lifelessso you may need a minimal .vimrc that enables modelines07:03
mordredah. that may explain why .vimrc-less things don't work for me :)07:04
mordredk. srrsly. sleep now07:05
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lifelessset modelines=25 or some such07:06
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ttxfungi: we can transform one of the "breaks" in our schedule into a break/keysigning that would happen in the dev lounge08:20
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ttxThe Thursday/Friday 10:30 breaks are the longest (30min, no late plenary before)08:21
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openstackgerritAntoine Musso proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: test: support voluptuous 7.0+
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Fix Martyn Taylor's gerrit username.
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sdagueclarkb: when you wake -
sdagueit looks like timestamp isn't updating the time completely (we're loosing microseconds)11:07
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openstackgerritRoman Podoliaka proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Tagging of TripleO jobs should be tripleo-ptl
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ArxCruzall: I'm trying to install devstack in my machine, and I'm getting this error: ERROR: HTTPConnectionPool(host='', port=8774): Read timed out. (read timeout=600.0)12:47
ArxCruzdoes anyone knows ?12:48
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aspierslooks like stackalytics broke12:55
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Fix Martyn Taylor's gerrit username.
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewday: Add all the TripleO projects.
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewday: Ignore editor backup files.
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewday: Be explicit to vim that bin/reviewday is python.
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fungittx: that's not a half bad idea. would have to be fairly disorganized but i can put a followup e-mail to the list saying that i will be in the dev lounge on thursday from 10:30-11:00am hk local time on thursday if anyone wants to bring their id and validate/swap info info. any idea whether we'll have access to a printer? if so i'll also offer to print up a name/keyid/fingerprint/uids sheet of anybody13:31
fungiwho signs an off-list reply to me by noon on wednesday or something13:31
ttxfungi: I suspect we'll be able to print something, yes13:32
fungiokay, i'll call it "best effort" there13:32
ttxfungi: fwiw I switched "Break" for "Break / Keysigning" in the schedule with minimal info13:32
ttxif you cant to craete a wiki page, i can add a link13:32
ttxif you want to create a wiki page, i can add a link13:33
ttxthat's what I mean13:33
fungiyou mean a page specific to that timeslot, or just something like
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ttxI was thinking specific to the timeslot, like
ttxwhere people could lean about process13:35
ttxbut I'm fine doing it informally13:35
ttxhanging out in the room at the same moment with ID is the trickiest part13:36
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fungisure. i can whip up a timeslot-specific page in a few minutes with a table where people who plan to show up can fill in their info, then i'll add any direct replies i get from people who don't feel like editing the wiki and see about printing out a stack of copies wednesday afternoon13:38
kiallHumm .. Really confused over why Gerrit/Zuul/Jenkins refuses to run the gate + merge of this change!
fungikiall: it depends on
ttxfungi: ok, hit me up with link when you have it13:39
kiallfungi: LOL. My bad.13:39
kiallOne of those days I guess! Sorry .. And Thanks :)13:40
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sdaguefungi: any chance I can get you to look at this -
sdagueit's hopefully the last piece to have caught the novaclient failure13:45
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* Steap would need a review on , which seems OK :)13:53
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fungisdague: in setup_workspace() i'm still a little unclear on why we have $base_branch outside the loop and $BRANCH inside the loop with (what seem to me to be) the same values. am i missing a statement somewhere in that loop which is reassigning the value of $BRANCH?13:53
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sdaguefungi: yep, let me grab the line13:58
sdagueL124 in that patch (right above the changes)13:58
sdaguewe loop through all the projects13:59
sdaguewe hit python-cinderclient, and find that it doesn't have a stable/grizzly branch13:59
sdaguebecause it's a client13:59
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sdagueso we set it to "master"13:59
sdaguebecause clients should always be on master13:59
sdagueotherwise the clients on stable/grizzly will fail the if on L13014:00
sdagueand get just master14:01
sdaguenot master + ZUUL_REF14:01
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fungioh, right, l125 we set BRAMCH=master14:02
* fungi must be going blind14:02
sdagueno worries14:02
sdagueit's taken me days to understand this script14:03
fungii'm around to approve a revert if it goes really, really sideways14:03
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openstackgerritsebastian marcet proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Review and create Puppet configuration for dev server
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ArxCruzfungi: quick question, Is there a way to disable a service in devstack-tempest run when the job is installing devstack to test?14:38
ArxCruzfor example, In power, I need to disable rabbit and enable qpid to have devstack installed successfully14:38
ArxCruzis there a way to pass that to the job ?14:39
fungiArxCruz: i think you can pass your own list of services to start in an override envvar to devstack-gate-wrap.sh14:39
fungii believe we have at least one job which does that... maybe the requirements integration one14:39
ArxCruzfungi: I will check, thanks14:40
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fungilifeless: zigo_: dims: ^15:04
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fungi(i know you three expressed some interest)15:04
fungii'll send a follow-up to the -dev ml mentioning it too15:04
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zigo_fungi: Super cool!15:05
zigo_fungi: Though please make sure that everyone checks for its own fingerprint on the final printed paper.15:06
fungizigo_: yes, i plan to do that first thing when people get there15:06
zigo_(since anyone can edit the wiki and "fix" a fingerprint)15:06
* fungi nods15:06
fungii will also pay at least some attention to the wiki edit history to hopefully spot any obvious tampering15:07
ttxfungi: linked15:08
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fungittx: thanks@15:09
zigo_fungi: I'm not used to this wiki, can you fix the crap I've done? :)15:10
zigo_fungi: How to specify "end of table raw" ?15:10
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fungizigo_: how's that... better?15:12
zigo_Perfect! :)15:12
fungithe |- line is a row separator, basically15:13
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fungimw syntax is a little funny... i had to look it up (as opposed to moin, which i have tattooed onto the back of my brains)15:13
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zigo_Well, arguably, no wiki has a good syntax: it's always DIFFERENT (from what you're used to...)15:14
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fungier, granted15:15
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anteayaif I am following the instructions seem to assume I am already running puppet. What puppet does it expect me to be running?15:15
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rpodolyakafungi: hey!15:18
fungianteaya: good point. the article could probably stand to mention installing the latest puppet 2.x version and how to locally apply a puppet manifest15:18
fungirpodolyaka: hi!15:19
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openstackgerritJohannes Erdfelt proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Allow displayName to be set via display-name attribute
rpodolyakafungi: could you take a look at ? it must be the last problem with TripleO releases configuration, we missed it yesterday :(15:19
openstackgerritJohannes Erdfelt proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Allow displayName to be set via display-name attribute
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anteayaokay, I can offer a patch to that effect but I will need help to get the info correct15:20
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dimsfungi, done!15:20
anteayafungi what repo is that article in?15:22
fungianteaya: however, we should be careful not to turn it into a general puppet tutorial. there are plenty of those on the internet already, and we reinvent more than enough wheels here15:22
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Tagging of TripleO jobs should be tripleo-ptl
rpodolyakafungi: thanks a lot!15:23
fungianteaya: openstack-infra/config in the doc/source dir15:23
fungirpodolyaka: you're welcome15:23
* rpodolyaka returns to ;releasing of all projects'...15:23
fungirun free, little projects... run free!15:23
fungithe internet is your playground now15:24
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rpodolyakabtw. for PyPi uploads to work I need: 1) name in setup.cfg == name of PyPi entry; 2) PyPi entry has a maintainer named 'openstackci'  right?15:27
fungidims: thanks! now i really should hurry up and send that e-mail to the -dev ml15:30
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dimsfungi, :) let's see how many people we can round up15:30
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fungisure. though in a half hour it will be fairly tight time-wise15:32
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fungiso we'll need to make sure we have our act together15:32
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anteayafungi minimum puppet to test a puppet module for config, master or client or both? I would prefer to just use one server.15:34
fungiyou don't need a puppet master and you don't need to have the agent daemon running. you can just use the puppet utility on the machine you're testing15:36
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fungianteaya: something like
anteayathe puppet utilit - what do I have to install on my test vm to use the puppet utility? The puppet client?15:39
fungianteaya: you can use the script like in that example15:39
* anteaya looks15:39
fungireplace the module path with wherever ends up dumping them if it's not in /root15:40
fungiand you can override that class with whatever is appropriate for what you're testing15:41
fungior set up your local site manifest with something which can figure it out from the hostname15:41
anteayaI'll try15:43
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sdaguefungi: any idea why this failed the merge after it passed the tests?15:58
sdagueI thought we did merge check first15:58
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fungisdague: we did for a little while, but with the nearest-non-failing algorithm addition we went back to letting it ride in case a change ahead conflicting with it failed to merge16:00
fungisince the new algorithm keeps those from gumming up the works with extra gate resets16:00
sdagueyeh, it just means that on reset heavy days, even once you clear the gate, you're done16:01
openstackgerritQianLin proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Add explaination on how to use floating-ip
sdaguewell, I guess the real answer is to get neutron to stop breaking the gate16:01
fungii think the answer to that is we should find ways to have fewer heavy reset days ;)16:02
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anteayamorning clarkb16:44
clarkbsdague: re timestamps in kibana. If you expand the events the actual timestamp is correct. Kibana2 itself doesn't render them properly. kibana3 does16:44
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anteayaclarkb I got this error last time I tried to run I can.t remember what I did last time to get past this? Do you?16:48
clarkbanteaya: yes, delete /etc/puppet/modules/concat and rerun the script16:48
clarkbI have a couple changes proposed that will fix that but getting them in will require some babysitting which I haven't had time for16:49
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anteayaokay thanks16:53
openstackgerritSteve Leon proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Add designate dns client (python-designateclient) to requirements
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Ensure clients get tested correctly in upgrades
fungisdague: ^16:54
funginow we wait for the screaming to begin ;)16:54
anteayaclarkb no error this time16:55
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clarkbfungi: it is halloween :)16:57
openstackgerritKiall Mac Innes proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Sync designate project gerrit ACLs
kiallHeya - Could I convince a Gerrit admin to create a stable/havana branch in the designate project, based off 5b280913c1efdbedc72b7fd9f9e6ed85b14f3fd316:58
clarkbanteaya: I think it is purely a namespace problem, which is unfortunate but it makes the work around simple16:58
clarkbkiall: what if we update 54775 to allow you to do it16:59
kiallclarkb: we could, I'd need to add the createReference permissions if I'm not mistaken?17:00
kiall^ review was more about syncing up with the other newer projects to allow reviews / merges on stable/* once created :)17:00
clarkbkiall: 'create' on refs/stable/* is what you need17:00
clarkbkiall: or a second change17:00
clarkbI would just prefer that we make it more self service :)17:01
kiallclarkb: as would I :)17:01
kiallI'll drop a second review in now17:01
openstackgerritDan Prince proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add Fedora support to
openstackgerritDan Prince proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Update to install RPMs.
openstackgerritDan Prince proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add Fedora 19 to the nodepool (devstack-f19-check)
openstackgerritDan Prince proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add a tempest-devstack-vm-neutron-fedora job.
rpodolyakaguys, do you know what can cause this? "python-tuskarclient-pypi-upload: LOST"
clarkbrpodolyaka: typically it means the job isn't in jenkins for some reason17:02
rpodolyakapypi entry has maintainer/owner 'openstackci'17:02
clarkbrpodolyaka: can you link the the change that has that?17:02
clarkboh nevermind this is a tag17:03
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clarkb the job is there17:04
ttxwow, getting hundreds of bounces from on my lastest post to -announce.17:04
openstackgerritKiall Mac Innes proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Allow designate-milestone to create branches matching stable/*
kiallclarkb: ^17:04
ttx5.4.7 - Delivery expired (message too old) [Default] '[Errno 60] Operation timed out'17:04
kialllook right?17:04
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clarkbkiall: looking17:04
kiallI'm used to using the GUI for gerrit ACLs ;)17:05
clarkbkiall: yeah that looks right17:05
ttxhmmactually that was joshua's "Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Thoughs please on how to address a problem with mutliple deletes leading to a nova-compute thread pool problem" triggering all those fatal bounces17:05
openstackgerritDan Prince proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add a tempest-devstack-vm-neutron-fedora job.
openstackgerritDan Prince proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add Fedora 19 to the nodepool (devstack-f19-check)
kiallclarkb: thanks17:06
fungiheh, i haven't looked but i bet he had a date header way in the past17:06
fungiprobably from a reboot17:06
clarkbrpodolyaka: so the job didn't run, so zuul saying LOST is probably accurate17:07
kiall"[Errno 60] Operation timed out" suggets a network timeout to me..17:07
* ttx looks17:07
clarkbrpodolyaka: still not sure why that happened though17:07
kialland has been timing out for long enough for the message to expire..17:07
ttxDate: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 16:30:48 +000017:07
rpodolyakaclarkb: ok, thanks17:07
ttxReceived: from ([]) Mon, 28 Oct 2013 16:31:22 +000017:08
ttxoriginal mail sounds legit17:08
ttxsandywalsh_: ^that resulted in your opensatck-dev subscription being disabled fwiw17:09
rpodolyakabtw, how long does it take to propagate merged changes to gerrit ACLs? or they should be applied immediately?17:10
clarkbrpodolyaka: fungi: 2013-10-31 16:47:37,333 ERROR zuul.Gearman: Job <gear.Job 0x15a3e90 handle: None name: build:python-tuskarclient-pypi-upload unique: 35b83e13cc1847b59f20c914676ac72c> is not registered with Gearman17:10
openstackgerritDan Prince proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewday: Add the rest of the client projects.
clarkbthat gives us a place to start17:10
clarkbrpodolyaka: 15-25 minutes17:10
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rpodolyakaclarkb: thanks!17:10
rpodolyakaso you have seen this one before ? :)17:11
ttxfrom, Date: 31 Oct 2013 11:41:00 -0500, 5.4.7 - Delivery expired (message too old) [Default] '[Errno 60] Operation = timed out'17:11
clarkbrpodolyaka: I haven't seen it before, but now we know why it didn't work17:11
ttxit's like * will have their subscription disabled over this17:12
clarkbfor some reason the job wasn't registered with gearman17:12
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rpodolyakaclarkb: aha. but what all one have to do to get a pypi job is to include pypi-jobs in projects.yaml, right?17:13
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clarkbin theory17:14
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openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Revert "Add a neutron isolated job for tempest"
mtreinishsdague: ^^^17:15
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clarkbrpodolyaka: fungi: I have confirmed that gearman status doesn't show the job, looking at logs on the jenkins server now17:16
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zaroclarkb: hey, how do i push a new branch to publication project?17:18
clarkbzaro: you can't, you need someone with core powers to do it, just let us know what you want to call it and what the starting sha1 should be17:19
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clarkbzaro: also any idea why jobs would be in jenkins but not registered with gerrit?17:19
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zaroclarkb: that sounds like a zuul question.  not sure where the extra jobs are coming from.17:20
zaroclarkb: what are those extra jobs?17:20
clarkbzaro: they aren't extra jobs17:21
clarkbthe jobs should be in both, but are not in gearman17:21
clarkbzaro: that job specifically17:21
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zaroclarkb: are you saying that there was a gerrit event for this project, but this job didn't run?17:23
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewday: Add the rest of the client projects.
sandywalsh_ttx, sorry, what was the cause?17:24
clarkbzaro: correct and the job didn't run because the job is not registered in gearman17:24
zaroclarkb: so did you telnet into gearman server to check all of the registered functions?17:25
zaroclarkb: maybe check that there is a label for this project that corresponds to a slave?17:27
kiallBTW - Is there anyone else with +2 on openstack/config about besides clark? Would love to get 54775 and 54781 merged before I head home this evening! Apologies for the nag ;)17:27
clarkbzaro: yes, the function is not there17:27
clarkbzaro: I will check that17:27
clarkbkiall: fungi17:28
zaroclarkb: ohh i see it's just set to pypi.17:28
fungikiall: yeah, i'll have a look17:28
kiallfungi: cool, thanks :)17:28
clarkbzaro: yeah, and pypi.slave.o.o has that label17:28
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zaroclarkb: pypi seems to be online so registration should exist.17:29
openstackgerritSteve Leon proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Add designate dns client (python-designateclient) to requirements
clarkbzaro: right it should exist :)17:29
fungisandywalsh_: looks like there was a message from the ml which hung between a couple of mtas inside rackspace and then got bounced back to the listserv the next day17:29
fungiprobably for all recipients at your domain, which is likely a lot of subscribers17:30
sandywalsh_fungi, ah, that doesn't surprise me in the least :) ... thanks for the heads up. I was very surprised to get dropped from all the lists.17:30
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zaroclarkb: i don't know.  is it possible to take pypi.slave.o.o offline then online to see if it registers?17:30
zaroclarkb: can you check to see if that project is enabled?17:31
fungisandywalsh_: yeah, mailman is pretty aggressive about disabling subscriptions for addresses which bounce more than once in a row on the same message17:31
* anteaya offers sandywalsh_ a mint17:32
zaroclarkb: ohh i see that project is disabled so that unregists the function.17:32
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ttxsandywalsh_: email bounced on rackspace server17:33
ttxsee errors I pasted17:33
zaroclarkb: if you enable that project, the function for it should get registered with gearman server.17:34
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mordredmorning all17:37
zaroclarkb: i'm not sure i understand how we are supposed to submit our slides to publication project.  iirc the instructions says you should create a branch for your slides. is this right?17:37
fungizaro: we just need to pick a common commit in your history for you to base/rebase on17:37
fungizaro: whatever commit you branched from locall17:38
fungior the commit you started from17:38
zarofungi: does that still mean that i push my local branch to the repo?17:38
anteayamorning mordred17:38
zarofungi: or am i modifying overview or master branch?17:39
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openstackgerritSergey Lukjanov proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Make requirements jobs voting for savanna repos
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fungizaro: there is a readme in the master branch which has a suggested workflow...
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Communicate to user when we skip a requirement
fungiyeah, not covering your question though17:40
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Base python 2.7 skip list on parsed names
fungizaro: phrased differently, what did you start from?17:41
SergeyLukjanovhi folks, I'm looking now on the better way to add test job for savanna gating experiments17:41
clarkbzaro: the project is dsiabled? /me looks17:41
fungizaro: like, if you copied a particular initial state, where did you get it/what was it?17:41
zarofungi: i branched locally from overview a few weeks ago.17:41
clarkbzaro: it doesn't look disabled to me17:41
SergeyLukjanovI'm thinking now about creating a job that will exec slave script with the rest code to be able to change it w/o changing jobs17:41
reedmordred, why is your email client breaking the thread? :(17:42
mordredreed: phone17:42
mordredreed: I was replying on my phone17:42
sandywalsh_ttx, thanks ... things have been a bit wonky with the email there recently17:42
fungizaro: oh, right, the readme i was thinking of is in the template branch...
clarkbzaro: can you point out where you are seeing that? or did someone enalbe it?17:42
mordredreed: sorry17:42
reedgeez, which email client? (just so I know)17:42
zaroclarkb: this one ?
pabelangerHave we stopped updating with horizon releases?17:42
fungizaro: but anyway, knowing the commit in your commit history which you started from on the overview branch then, would be enough. we can create the new branch starting from there17:42
pabelangerit seems 2012.2 is the latest17:43
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zarofungi: /me checks17:44
clarkbzaro: ya that one17:44
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Use pypi-mirror instead of jeepyb
clarkbzaro: I have a "Disable project" button implying it is currently enabled17:45
clarkbI can try disabling and enabling it17:45
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zaroclarkb: ohh right, i mistakenly thought that grey balls mean disabled.  i don't have access to the enable/disable button.  maybe try disable then enable to see if you get it to register?17:46
anteayapabelanger morning and I don't know perhaps -horizon may17:47
clarkbzaro: I will try that17:47
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zaroclarkb: if that doesn't work then i would try disabling/re-enabling  pypi.slave.o.o to update registration.17:48
clarkbzaro: I did that, looking to see if it registered now17:48
zarofungi: i branched from 2b84bf5c42e6488d1bf170c5f984c400a0f40ce3  (in overview)17:49
fungizaro: and what did you want the new branch called?17:49
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zarofungi: '2013-jenkins-conference-palo-alto'17:50
mtreinishclarkb, mordred, fungi: can you push this through to unblock the tempest gate:
mtreinishI'm at >=7 reverifies since this morning17:50
mtreinishI lost count17:50
clarkbzaro: it is registered now17:50
zaroclarkb: which one fixed it>17:50
clarkbzaro: at some point we should swing around and figure out why that happened17:51
clarkbzaro: I disabled then enabled it17:51
clarkbrpodolyaka: I will manually trigger your job now17:51
zaroclarkb: which one? project or slave?17:51
fungizaro: that sounds more like the tag name pattern we've settled on. what's the title or topic of the presentation you gave there?17:51
clarkbzaro: project17:51
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Remove pip as an argument from mkvenv
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Add wheel mirror structure awareness
sdagueclarkb: - sweet17:52
sdaguewe got the -1 that was expected there finally17:52
kiallSpeaking of manually triggering jobs, can someone click rebuild on, I've given Jenkins owner on the pypi package since that build :(17:52
zaroclarkb: yes, definately need to debug.  but good sign if it only required reset of project to fix. or at least better than having to reset the slave.17:52
mordredmtreinish: I'm fine with it - sdague clarkb ?17:53
zarofungi: the topic was talk on gearman-plugin17:53
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zarofungi: actually, it's 'multi-master with gearman-plugin'17:54
sdaguemordred: I'm good with it17:54
fungizaro: okay, great. created a branch called gearman-plugin (just needs to be short and unique enough really). make sure to add a commit which updates the default branch to that in .gitreview17:55
zarofungi: thx much.17:55
fungimtreinish: so does this mean we're abandoning the tenant isolation testing for neutron in tempest for the near future?17:55
sdaguefungi: so that test doen't even actually test tenant isolation yet17:56
mtreinishfungi: no, it's critical that neutron gets it working asap, and it's still on neutron so they'll be blocked by the races killing the run17:57
sdaguebecause if you turn it on neutron fails 95% of the time17:57
clarkbrpodolyaka: manual triggered job pushed your release17:57
clarkbkiall: looking17:57
fungioh, well nothing of value was lost then ;)17:57
sdagueso this is just the fact that neutron is failing 60% of the time on pg17:57
mtreinishsdague: yeah it does, the neutron api tests just don't have tenant isolation17:57
sdagueoh, ok17:57
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sdagueso it's a partial loss, but right now it's blocking too much of tempest17:57
kiallthanks clarkb17:57
mtreinisheverything that is isolated in a normal run is still isolated for those neutron-isolated jobs17:57
mtreinishit's just when I tried to turn it on for the neutron api tests things fell apart even worse17:58
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Publish horizon to pypi
pabelangeranteaya, okay, looks like an oversight, patch uploaded17:58
pabelangerwill see if clarkb or fungi can manually publish the latest release next17:59
clarkbkiall: done, please check17:59
kiallclarkb: spot on, thanks17:59
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kiall2 more things left then! .. creating the stable branch and updating the setup.cfg / .gitreview for em  .. So close ;)18:00
clarkbsdague: success!18:00
fungipabelanger: i believe we don't publish server projects to pypi and should either start doing that or delete them all at some point18:01
clarkbmtreinish: I am reviewing that change now18:01
fungipabelanger: right now we publish tarballs of server projects to launchpad, officially18:01
mtreinishclarkb: ok thanks18:02
clarkbfungi: pabelanger: correct, I forget why though. However kiall is free to publish designate to pypi as he likes :)18:02
kiallI actually thought all the projects published there, hence why I fixed it when I saw the job failed ;)18:02
fungimainly just explaining why the horizon release on pypi is old, old, old18:02
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clarkbkiall: oh18:03
pabelangerfungi, clarkb interesting.  I'm looking to build an app on top of horizon, and figure pypi would be the place to get it18:03
fungisince pabelanger asked earlier18:03
fungiwasn't talking about designate18:03
clarkbpabelanger: fungi: that said, the bits of horizon that are dashboardy should probably be split into an indepdent lib that lives on pypi18:03
clarkbfungi: ya18:03
clarkbther eis a summit session to talk about that18:03
kiallhorizon is probably a .. mix.. of server and client.. in that horzon is a library, while openstack_dashboard makes use of the library18:03
clarkbkiall: right18:03
clarkbbut they are conglomerated together currently and need to be separated18:04
clarkbshould be an interesting session18:04
pabelangerclarkb, Ya, I seen that talk for the summit.18:04
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mtreinishclarkb, fungi: can you hit +A pretty please? (you both hit +2 at the same time)18:05
clarkbmtreinish: will do18:05
pabelangerclarkb, fungi: so what do you propose for the moment?  Remove horizon from pypi or manually update to the latest release?18:06
pabelangerI can update my requirements.txt to point to git or the tarball for now18:06
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* mordred wants us to start publishing the 'server' projects to pypi18:07
mordredbecause, well, people want to do things with them18:07
sdaguebtw, I expect this to be a spirited conversation around Neutron QA - I would appreciate people coming and joining for it18:07
clarkbpabelanger: I think using git/tarball for now would be good then we can hopefully have a solid plan come out of the summit session18:07
clarkbsdague: I have starred it18:07
clarkband only have one conflict at that time :)18:08
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Revert "Add a neutron isolated job for tempest"
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mordredsdague: it is starred on my schedule too18:12
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sdaguemordred: awesome18:12
openstackgerritDennyZhang proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: add introduction for README.rst
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mordredlifeless, clarkb: the above /recent changes to pbr are an attempt to split the wheel change into more consuable bites18:15
lifelessmordred: thank you18:15
clarkbI think I have decided that everyone should go on vacation when jeblair is on vacation18:16
clarkbthat way I wouldn't feel so bad about my review backlog :)18:16
mordredclarkb: zomg18:17
clarkbmordred: it is a fool proof plan, if everyone is one vacation then we don't flail about18:17
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* kiall heads home for the night, thanks for the help clarkb/fungi18:18
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* anteaya is pretty sure she could manage to flail on vacation as well18:20
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clarkbhmm we lost fungi18:28
mtreinishclarkb: what happened here?:
mtreinishyeah I just noticed that18:29
mtreinishany idea why those were cancelled?18:29
clarkbmtreinish: no idea, checking zuul logs now18:29
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mordredgod. losing fungi seems like a TERRIBLE thing to do18:33
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clarkbmtreinish: it looks like zuul aborted those builds for some reason18:35
mtreinishclarkb: hmm, ok I'll just no bug them then18:36
zarowhere's fungi??18:36
mtreinishlost at sea...18:37
clarkbmtreinish: I think this may be a bug in zuul18:37
zaroclarkb: can you please point me to where i can fix this the title of the first publication on this web page?
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mtreinishclarkb: ok, there wasn't anything in the logs? Is there somewhere I can look to track it down?18:38
clarkbmtreinish: what I think happened is zuul cancelled those builds beacuse a change ahead of 54221 failed, but then it didn't restart the jobs on 54221 properly18:39
clarkbmtreinish: I am about to paste what I have found from the zuul debug log18:39
clarkbmtreinish: is the condensed log18:42
clarkbmtreinish: I am going to submit a zuul bug which you can use if you want18:42
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rakhmerovfungi: hi, even mistral repo seems to have been created successfully for some reason I don't see any links to logs when I send my patchsets. Could you please look at . It looks like something is not fully configured yet18:46
mtreinishclarkb: ok cool18:47
clarkbrakhmerov: fungi isn't in channel currently18:48
rakhmerovwoops, I see now18:48
clarkbit looks like zuul has a corrupt local copy of the mitral repo18:48
zarostepping out for a little.18:48
clarkbrakhmerov: if you promise to not doing anything in gerrit with mistral for a few minutes I can try and fix that under zuul18:49
rakhmerovclarkb: is it because of some internal misconfiguration?18:49
rakhmerovclarkb: I do promise you :)18:49
clarkbrakhmerov: there was a bug in manage-projects at some point18:49
clarkband I think that broke the clone that zuul got18:49
rakhmerovyeah, I know, sorry about that18:49
rakhmerovI may actually have some problems on my side but locally it all runs ok, so I just should be able to see some logs at least18:50
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clarkbrakhmerov: ok, give it a try now18:53
clarkbjust recheck no bug should work18:53
clarkbI went ahead and did a recheck, lets see how that goes18:55
clarkblooks like it is working now18:55
rakhmerovok, I just stepped out for a minute18:55
rakhmerovlet me see18:55
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rakhmerovawesome, it's ok now. I see the logs18:56
rakhmerovthanks a lot!18:56
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anteayacan I run puppet apply --modulepath first and then puppet apply -e afterwards?19:02
clarkbanteaya: you need the modulepath to be properly set whenever using stuff in that modulepath19:03
clarkbif I understand the question correctly, no you will need the --modelepath when using -e19:03
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anteayaokay thanks, I was attempting to isolate one point of failure at a time19:06
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dstuffthow the hell do I publish a draft comment in gerrit19:12
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mordreddstufft: go to the main page of the review and click the review button19:13
mordreddstufft: it is one of my least favorite ui features19:14
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dstufftmordred: ok19:14
dstufftmordred: gerrit's UI is awful all around :[19:15
mordreddstufft: it certainly has its ups and its downs. :) there is a set of keybindings you might find lessen the evil19:16
mordreddstufft: press ? on any page and it'll pop up a list of shortcuts19:16
mgagneanyone knows if there will be power outlets in conference rooms at HK?19:16
mordredmgagne: absolutely no idea19:17
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fungiand unsplit19:20
mordredlook. it's a fungi19:23
lifelesss/a/some/ ?19:23
* fungi are plural19:23
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Shrewsand yet Shrews is singular19:26
Shrewsand one of those is too many  :/19:26
anteayaand what kind of power outlets if there are some?19:26
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mordreddhellmann, clarkb, fungi: I'd like to make lifeless pbr-core, as he's one of the few people who consistently reviews pbr patches19:31
fungimordred: he has my vote19:32
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lifelessclarkb: fungi: could really use an upgrade to +219:37
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lifelessclarkb: fungi: it's stalled. Either some core needs to gamble, or you need to decide who can give a second +2 and reach out to them (e.g. a horizon dev?)19:37
mordredok. I'm going to go for it. anybody object?19:39
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lifelessfungi: mordred: needs a +2, it's trivial.19:44
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add the ability to perist the Zuul Status filter with a cookie.
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mordredok. well, there's the scary patch landed19:51
mordredryanpetrello: ^^19:51
ryanpetrello:D I saw19:51
ryanpetrellowait, that was a scary patch?19:51
mordredwe were all terrified of it19:51
openstackgerritDennyZhang proposed a change to openstack-infra/os-loganalyze: fix typo
mordredyour javascript foo is stronger than mine19:52
ryanpetrelloI could say the same for your Jenkins-fu19:52
mordredwell, we each have our fu's19:52
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/zuul: doc: fix typos, missing parentheses, upper/lower case
mordredfungi: so - modules/pypimirror seems to be cruft19:52
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mordredor, rather. hrm.19:54
mordredyeah. it's total poop19:54
mordredbecause we do all of the mirror building on the slaves19:54
fungimordred: yeah, i think that dated back to when we did it on pypi.o.o when it was still a separate vm19:55
mordredfungi:  WE ARE STILL RUNNING A CRON JOB THERE????19:55
fungimordred: might be. did that vm not get deleted yet?19:56
mordredfungi: oh righ t- because it's just a venv on static now right?19:56
fungiyes, if you went by dns name you ended up on static19:57
funginot venv, apache vhost, but i assume that's what you meant19:57
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove old pypi host cruft
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* fungi needs to simultaneously pack and get ready for trick-or-treaters19:58
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Switch from jeepyb to pypi-mirror
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bodepd_can I specify a schedule with jjb jobs?20:07
reedanteaya, mordred, just found an alternative to owncloud, non php
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bodepd_ah, maybe a cron based trigger...20:08
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bodepd_I found it nm20:09
* anteaya hopes for autoconf20:13
* anteaya clicks20:13
dhellmannmordred: +1 on lifeless as pbr-core20:14
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anteayareed: in the documentation is says that it runs and installer script, same issue as seafile20:19
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anteayaI am asking in the #cozycloud channel to see if I have an option to feed it an autoconf file20:20
anteayaand thanks for the option, reed20:20
reedanteaya, what's the problem with an installer script?20:20
reedbtw, others are also asking them to package it for debian20:20
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anteayareed: I can't puppet an installer script20:22
anteayaI want to put content on one autoconfig file and say go20:22
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reedanteaya, uhm ... I thought that groups-dev has an installer script, let me check20:22
anteayathen if it needs to find values in the autoconf file and generate ids or create admin accounts it can20:23
reedcheck it out
reednot sure this is what you mean though20:23
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anteayaI think that is what I mean20:24
anteayawhich is what I was warned away from doing20:25
reedclarkb, fungi and jeblair reviewed that patch20:27
clarkbmordred: lifeless in pbr-core is fine by me20:28
clarkbI am taking a UK power adaptor20:29
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anteayaI am going to have to buy a UK adapter there20:30
clarkbradio shack has them if others need/want them20:31
clarkbyup that is where I got mine20:31
clarkbfungi: wb, should we push ssh keys through now?20:31
anteayaI was there yesterday, I didn't think to ask, but I doubt my local store has them20:31
anteayaI feel like I am getting some mixed signals about how to address teh puppet20:32
anteayaabout what is or is not possible20:32
sdagueanteaya: I got a bundle of 3 from Amazon the other day. If you don't end up finding one before I see you you can have one of them.20:32
clarkbanteaya: if possible I wouldn't write an installer script20:32
sdagueI'll just throw them in my bag20:32
anteayasdague: thank you20:32
anteayacool thanks20:32
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clarkbit is better to directly configure services with puppet20:32
anteayaclarkb: yeah, well it isn't looking terribly possible20:32
clarkbnot always possible but if possible20:33
anteayaI can see that20:33
anteayaI'm feeling squeezed between the expectation and the reality20:33
anteayaI just want mordred to have something for Sunday20:33
anteayaand I am feeling that I am not going to make that20:33
anteayagiven my current direction20:34
* anteaya stands up a cozy cloud20:34
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fungiclarkb: ahh, yep. reviewing20:36
anteayanope, cozy expects me to be downloading a script locally to run the remote server, nope20:36
clarkbfungi: pushing your key in now20:36
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anteayaI don't see any key signing or anything20:36
anteayaso much for cozy20:36
clarkbmordred: still around?20:37
clarkbmordred: puppet agent hasn't been running on puppet master for a long time (since we disabled salt which has since been reenabled)20:37
clarkbmordred: in the mean time we have been manually applying changes. Do you think we should restart the daemon before the summit?20:38
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Two new SSH keys for myself
fungiclarkb: approved yours20:39
clarkbfungi: thanks20:39
fungiclarkb: mordred: fwiw i am in favor of starting it back up20:39
clarkbfungi: I think I am too20:39
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add temporary summit pubkey for clarkb.
reedgawd! openstack-dev not having the proper reply-to set :(20:42
morganfainbergmordred, so with the requirements update automatic reviews... if one is no longer possible (e.g. merge conflict) is it best to manually rebase it?  not sure how that job works.20:43
morganfainbergmordred, e.g.
clarkbreed: and someone changed the list-id which broke my filter20:45
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reedclarkb, ah, interesting20:45
reedI don't remember doing that20:45
reedtime to change the password?20:46
clarkbreed: meh, its not a huge deal. I have a hunch that ttx did it20:46
reedclarkb, why would he do that?20:46
clarkbreed: because whoever changed it add a not for general use disclaimer :)20:46
reedbesides, where do you change the list-id? I thought it was baked20:47
clarkbno idea20:47
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reedmrda, funny nick if you speak Italian :)20:48
mrdareed, can you enlighten me? I don't speak Italian.20:49
reedI guess the equivalent in English would be sht20:49
mrdaoh ok, so my name reflects my code :)20:49
reedi'll force myself to read it as Mr. Da :)20:51
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lifelessfungi: mordred: seems ready for 2x+2.20:53
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clarkblifeless: darn I think I did that change wrong20:54
clarkbyeah let me fix it really quick20:55
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Publish python-ironicclient tarballs.
clarkblifeless: fungi: mordred: ^ is ebtter20:56
lifelessclarkb: what did you change?20:58
lifelessclarkb: also isn't it 'Closes-Bug: # ?20:58
clarkblifeless: I removed the uneeded job group from projects.yaml20:58
clarkblifeless: its either20:58
clarkbbut I used the unadvertised one...20:58
lifelessclarkb: I don't see a projects.yaml change20:58
clarkblifeless: it was there in ps1 and no longer there in ps220:59
lifelessclarkb: oh right20:59
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lifelessclarkb: so publish jobs isn't needed to make tarballs?21:00
clarkblifeless: nope, tarball jobs are in python-jobs21:00
clarkbI had mistakenly thought they were part of publish jobs. publish jobs is for documentation stuff21:00
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fungicloses-bug and fixes-bug both work, but since the wiki mentions closes-bug and we want to avoid seeding additional confusion over preferred forms, we only fully highlight the closes-bug header in commit messages21:00
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clarkbya I chose the wrong one :(21:01
anteayawhat I would really, really like to do is fork owncloud's 5.0.12 version and pull in this change: then use vcsrepo to git clone the fork21:01
lifelessclarkb: ack21:01
anteayathen I can use autoconf to puppet up owncloud21:01
lifelessclarkb: is it worth repushing with the official one, to reduce confusion for folk reading logs?21:01
anteayaand I think owncloud has a much more straightforward gui structure21:02
anteayahence happier users21:02
clarkblifeless: I don't think so21:02
clarkblifeless: if this was a complex change then maybe, but we are just adding jobs21:02
lifelessclarkb: I'm more thinking folk do 'git log ...'21:02
lifelessclarkb: and learn by copying21:02
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clarkbanteaya: my biggest concern with that is owncloud has a history of patching silly security vulnerabilities. If you were to fork it and do your own thing there may be a significant amount of work involved to keep up with future potential security fixes21:03
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openstackgerritMathieu Gagné proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Fix indentation in example of Logrotate section
clarkblifeless: good point. It is a simple change I will update it21:04
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Publish python-ironicclient tarballs.
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lifelessfungi: your stamp needed again :)21:05
lifelessclarkb: thank you21:05
anteayaclarkb: fair enough, but how is using a tarball for seafile any different?21:05
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clarkbanteaya: you just grab the latest tarball when you have to fix a security issue21:06
* fungi warms up the ink pad for his +2 stamp21:06
clarkbinstead of manuallyneeding to patch things because you have diverged from upstream21:06
clarkbanteaya: its possible we just eat the cost of some hand configured things now since they are moving to making it automagic in the future21:07
anteayaoh, well 5.0.12 is the latest stable version and then they move to 6, they are in alpha for six21:07
anteayathis feature will be in version 621:07
anteayaI don't know if they will come out with more 5 versions or not21:07
anteayabut this is in master, so it is possible it would be in other versions of 521:08
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anteayaI think we are looking at manual steps whichever way we turn21:08
anteayaowncloud or seafile21:08
anteayaand owncloud will be easier for the users to use21:09
anteayabetter ux I feel21:09
anteayaI hear what you are saying, clarkb, and I agree with you21:10
anteayaI think I have to make the best bad choice now though21:10
clarkbanteaya: I am not arguing for or against either option. I am just trying to provide the considerations that need to be made when making a decision21:10
zarohow do i git review to another branch?21:11
clarkbzaro: git review $BRANCH_NAME21:11
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zaroclarkb: it says 'no new changes'.21:12
fungizaro: or if you set the defaultbranch in the .gitreview on your branch like i suggested, git review will dtrt automagically21:12
clarkbzaro: then the change has already been pushed21:12
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zaroclarkb: ohh of course. i already pushed it to master.21:13
clarkbabandon that change, change the change-id then push to the correct branch21:13
clarkbthat should fix it21:13
clarkbassuming of course that a funny rebase didn't happen and make things go really sidewys21:14
zaroclarkb: yep. thanks.21:14
clarkbanteaya: personally I would be fine with owncloud or seafile since I think it comes down to using the least bad one :) eg neither wins so either is "fine"21:18
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anteayaclarkb: yeah, thanks21:24
clarkbjhesketh__: hi there21:25
anteayahmmm when I clone owncloud core, I don't get the 5.0.12 tag, the oldest is 5.0.921:25
clarkbfungi: are your keys happy? I was able to get on review-dev so in general they are working. I think we should go ahead and start puppet agent on the master21:25
mrdamorning jhesketh__21:25
anteayabut I do see that owncloud 6 is in beta now, not alpha21:25
clarkbanteaya: was there strong dissent to running 6?21:26
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anteayaclarkb: I have not heard any dissent, I hadn't mentioned it before since they were in alpha21:27
anteayabut now they are in beta21:27
anteayaso, mentioning21:27
anteayaI think i am going to stand up an owncloud 6 and see what comes of it21:27
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zaroanteaya: what was the problem with seafile? why go back to owncloud?21:31
clarkbI think it has the same config issues that plague owncloud21:31
fungiclarkb: i've started puppet agent on the master again, as discussed21:34
clarkbfungi: great21:34
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fungitesting my new keys out in a moment21:35
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clarkbI have been watching the number of tcp connections on etherpad.o.o slowly climb over the week, but memory and cpu consumption seem to have held steady21:35
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clarkbfungi: mine seems to be happy21:37
anteayazaro: seafile would use about 20 different variables, and generate some special ids and uuids21:38
anteayaso different obstacles but the same kind of pain to puppet21:39
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anteayaclarifing about 20 different variables the puppet files would have to track and pass around21:39
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asalkeldhi guys, is it possible to look for "Close-bug" (as well as "Closes-bug") in commit messages?21:40
clarkbasalkeld: I think we are trying to restrict the set because more variability just causes confusion21:40
clarkbfungi: ^ is that why we don't have fixes-bug?21:40
asalkeldseeing many bugs left openstate21:40
asalkeldand it's easy to miss in review21:40
asalkeldcase in point ^21:41
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clarkbthe regex in gerrit will only fully match correct strings21:42
clarkbwhich should be helpful eyeballing it in review21:42
anteayaasalkeld: perhaps the solution might be a patch to lint or flake to enforce the expected syntax21:42
asalkeldor git review21:42
clarkb(I am open to relaxing the regex, but we tend to find that it just causes confusion later on when people aren't sureabout what is correct)21:43
anteayaperhaps, I don't know if git review has a syntax parser21:43
clarkbthe accepted headers are documetned on the wiki21:43
asalkeldsure, it's just to save on mistakes21:43
asalkeldthanks, gota be off21:43
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fungiright, back when we had one and only one behavior it was easy to just match on any old pattern. now that we have several the idea is that by being particular about the syntax will help people keep straight which one does what21:47
mordredanteaya, clarkb: I kinda think that perhaps for owncloud we just give up on having it 100% puppetted for now21:47
hasharpabelanger: hello there :-]  I got Zuul packaged again  zuul_1.3.0-1_all.deb !21:47
mordredwe've run gerrit with a puppet + manual steps setup for quite a while now21:47
mordredhashar: woot21:48
clarkbmordred: wfm21:48
anteayamordred: thank you21:48
hasharmordred: I added a bug to request a new tag for Zuul    might want to add that to some meeting / mailing list / whatever.21:48
anteayamordred: so what do you want owncloud from packages a la or owncloud 6 beta?21:49
* fungi is going to be mostly afk for the evening, packing and frightening small children21:49
anteayafungi: have fun storming the castle21:49
clarkbfungi: BOOO!21:49
fungiclarkb: both my new and temporary keys check out too21:49
clarkbfungi: will you be around tomorrow?21:49
clarkbor are you flying?21:49
fungiclarkb: depends on how good the in-flight wifi is over the north pole21:49
fungiyes, flying21:50
mordredanteaya: I do not care about packages at all21:50
mordredin this context21:50
anteayaokay, thanks21:50
clarkbok, I might just pretend I am flying tomorrow too >_>21:50
anteayalet me see if I can get v6 puppeted while waiting for the laundry to dry21:50
fungiclarkb: i'll be heading to the airport basically first thing, and won't be done until saturday evening hk time21:50
anteayaif no, 53868 will come back to life21:51
fungistupid international date line21:51
clarkbI don't leave until Saturday morning, but need to finish getting ready and stuff tomorrow so won't be super useful anyways21:51
clarkbI have to do things like vote21:51
clarkbWA and OR have it good with vote by mail but having the summit during election day must be hard for people in other states21:51
funginc decided to scale back advance voting so that only the whims of retirees will be counted21:52
clarkbfungi: you have been the butt of many late night satire show jokes21:53
anteayafungi me too21:53
fungii suspect so. just glad i don't watch those21:53
* clarkb makes a mental note to suggest not having the summit during this week next year for voting reasons21:54
anteayaif I am just wanting the code to run, does it matter if am in in detached head state in the repo?21:56
anteayaI did git checkout <tag>21:56
anteayadetached head state is so appropriate for the evening21:57
anteayanearly-detached head state would be just that much better21:57
reedanteaya, are you going to HK?21:58
anteayareed yes21:59
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anteayareed thanks, I am looking forward to it22:01
anteayafor /var/www or /srv/http do we care?22:02
reedi hope to be able to buy a microscooter near the hotel to scoot through the place22:02
anteayaha ha ha22:02
anteayathanks for the warning22:02
reedi vote for /srv/http... looks more modern22:02
anteayaget one of those horns like that marx brother had22:02
reedyeah :)22:02
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anteayaharpo marx22:04
anteayareed okay, I'm all about appearances /srv/http it is22:04
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openstackgerritDennyZhang proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: add introduction for README document
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lifelessmordred: minor question about test-requirements, otherwise I think you should hunt +2s from fungi and clarkb22:12
lifelessclarkb: fungi: should be gtg with +2s.22:13
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clarkblifeless: I am still a bit torn on whether we should fork semver22:19
clarkbit seems like such a heavyweight "solution" ot a minor problem22:19
mordredlifeless: re: test reuqirements22:19
mordredlifeless: pypi-mirror is used in a virtualenv that's created in tools/integration.sh22:19
mordredso there are no things that consume test-requirements.txt that would interact with pypi-mirror22:20
mordredclarkb: my main reason for forking was that I think that having a document that says "we're semver, except for these differences" would be hard to follow22:20
mordredI'm not 100% convinced it's correct22:21
mordredjust seemed like a single document would be easier to consume22:21
clarkbif the changes were extensive I owuld agree, but isn't the major problem having ~stuff at the end?22:22
clarkbI think we can express that without a fork22:22
mordredthe version in the pbr doc gets specific about the stuff at the end22:22
mordredwhereas in semver it's 100% free form22:22
mordredI'm open to a not-fork if you think/feel strongly that it will be clearer22:23
mordredthe main thing I wanted to avoid was consumption cost for someone what wanted to learn the rules22:23
clarkbI am weighing a dislike of forks pretty heavily into that opinion :)22:23
mordredyah. from a doc maint perspective, it's more work22:24
mordredbut I don't expect it to change much22:24
clarkbI think the vast majority of people that really care about versions will be familiar with semver and having a small thing on how we differ won't be too hard to consume22:24
mordredthat wouldn't let me be snarky towards arrogant github boy as much though22:25
reedyou would anyway22:25
mordredI mean, seriously, who puts their resume into a spec?22:25
mordredyeah. can't stop me22:25
clarkbmordred: I can put my resume in the fork if you like >_>22:25
mordred"The Semantic Versioning specification is authored by Tom Preston-Werner, inventor of Gravatars and cofounder of GitHub."22:26
mordredeverything about that sentence I believe sums up why I think github is about stoking ego22:26
mordred"The Semantic Versioning specification is authored by Tom Preston-Werner" would be quite sufficient22:26
reedthey invented the interwebs, didn't you know?22:26
reedamericans, for anybody not educated here :)22:27
clarkbnow now it was just Gore :)22:27
mordredit was actually **REDACTED**22:28
reedand Tom Preston-Werner was his high-tech consultant22:28
reedand, tell you what, I was there :)22:28
* reed goes back in the cave22:28
clarkbmordred: I am tempted to try going back to running pep8 jobs before any other tests22:30
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mordredclarkb: I obviously am a big fan of it22:35
mordredclarkb: why did we stop again?22:35
clarkbmordred: I think because we wanted multiple checks first22:35
clarkbbut with flake8 now maybe that isn't an issue22:35
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mordredso, I _think_ that jeblair's main concern22:36
mordredwas that it adds the runtime of pep8 serially22:36
clarkbin the last 24 hours 55 pep8 tests have failed22:37
clarkbthat is 55 too many :)22:37
mordredwhich makes overall runtime in cases where pep8 succeeds longer22:37
clarkbit does22:37
clarkbmordred: I think that should serve as incentive to developers to run tox -epep8 locally22:41
mordredclarkb: hangon. You think it will do that?22:43
clarkbI don't think it will, but it should :/22:43
mordredhow about electro shock?22:43
clarkbif we can configure zuul to shock people in retaliation I say we go with that22:44
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clarkbpleia2: are you out tomorrow as well?22:45
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pleia2clarkb: I'm around in the morning, but afternoon I need to errands and pack for leaving tomorrow evening22:46
pleia2managed to get some of my tripleo stuff into a good stopping place today though so I'm pleased22:47
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zarocan i bother a core for a publication approval?:
zaroapparently some people have asked for the slides from jenkins conference.22:51
anteayapleia2: well done22:51
pleia2anteaya: I still have a long way to to :)22:52
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anteayapleia2: you are making good progress22:52
anteayaand knocking down those steps one at a time22:53
anteayagood for you22:53
pleia2long day22:53
pleia2thanks anteaya22:53
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lifelessclarkb: fungi: also ready -
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lifelessand this
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openstackgerritAntoine Musso proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Doc: enhance gating reference with diagrams
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hasharI can play with openstack-infra/*  but not with openstack/requirements :(23:09
hasharlifeless: I can't add in sphinxcontrib-blockdiag>=0.5.5 to openstack/requirements right now. Got to read the CLA :-]23:10
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hasharfollowed up on change. I am off to bed.  Good afternoon!23:13
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anteayadoes apache just know to look in /srv/http? or do I have to tell it to look there?23:31
clarkbyou will probably needt o tell it23:33
clarkband set the docroot23:33
anteayaah ha, I didnt' to that23:33
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Jenkins Dynamic Parameter Plug-in support
clarkbis it just me or are there no links to the summit schedule from the openstack website?23:40
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lifelessclarkb: I think you're right23:41
pleia2I couldn't find a link on the site either, depended on link from the wiki23:42
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clarkbpleia2: that i swhere I found it23:43
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: fix typo
anteayawell I have successfully given myself a 40323:53
anteayaso that is some sort of progress23:53
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