Monday, 2013-10-07

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openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Tuskar has moved to openstack/.  https://review.openstack.org/4997401:12
openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Ignore editor files.  https://review.openstack.org/4997501:12
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lifelessclarkb: if you're idling, I have a few ready to go config patches - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45011/ and up02:49
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lifelessmordred: clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48833/ <- is ready for +2 love02:50
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lifelessmore importantly though, there is a xattr failure02:52
lifelesshttp://logs.openstack.org/28/48828/1/check/check-pbr-devstack-vm-rawinstall/84ad9f1/console.html02:53
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mordredlifeless: beeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrr05:17
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lifelessmordred: beeerrrr ?05:23
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sorenmordred: I'm happy to change it to something else (just not '!'). What would you prefer?08:06
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openstackgerritAntoine Musso proposed a change to openstack-dev/cookiecutter: doc: disable intersphinx mapping  https://review.openstack.org/5000908:28
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openstackgerritAntoine Musso proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: statsd documentation  https://review.openstack.org/4988508:53
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openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Use yaml local tags to support including files  https://review.openstack.org/4878309:33
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Provide default ConfigParser object  https://review.openstack.org/4879009:33
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openstackgerritEkaterina Fedorova proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add murano-repository to stackforge  https://review.openstack.org/5002611:20
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openstackgerritEkaterina Fedorova proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add murano-repository to stackforge  https://review.openstack.org/5002611:36
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openstackgerritafazekas proposed a change to openstack/requirements: No obvious reason for having swfit in the requirements  https://review.openstack.org/5003011:40
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Savanna has been moved to openstack org  https://review.openstack.org/4990313:07
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Tuskar has moved to openstack/.  https://review.openstack.org/4997413:07
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Ignore editor files.  https://review.openstack.org/4997513:08
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openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Fix json syntax error  https://review.openstack.org/5006713:15
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Add script to quickly sanity check json files  https://review.openstack.org/5006813:15
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Fix json syntax error  https://review.openstack.org/5006713:15
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Add script to quickly sanity check json files  https://review.openstack.org/5006813:15
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russellbshould get that running in -infra somewhere at some point ...13:16
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openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Added lower version boundary for netaddr  https://review.openstack.org/4953013:49
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mordredsoren: damn. you're too agreeable. now I have to come up with a suggestion...13:56
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fungiour other bots which take input (meetbot, statusbot) use #13:59
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fungias long as there's no command overlap, seems like a safe one13:59
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Alex_GaynorSo I'm using PBR on a project, and I'm getting http://bpaste.net/show/RDHGFMxqYjMQAuC0xZiB/ whenever I try to build a package with it14:07
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mordredAlex_Gaynor: looking14:13
mordredAlex_Gaynor: wow. that's ... exciting14:13
Alex_Gaynormordred: there doesn't seem to be any non-ascii chars in ChangeLog or AUTHORS14:14
mordredAlex_Gaynor: I _think_ we've run in to this before and it's an osx weirdness14:14
Alex_Gaynormordred: So I should go get a linux?14:14
mordredAlex_Gaynor: and I _think_ it might be fixed in pbr trunk14:14
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mordredAlex_Gaynor: can you try it on a linux just to see? (or I can try it on a linux)14:15
Alex_Gaynormordred: I can spin up a VM easily enough14:15
jeblairclarkb, fungi, mordred: we should probably make the git-review bug team an open team14:16
mordredok. if it is osx, I may want to get you to try either trunk pbr or a patch I've got submitted to it on osx to see if they fix it (I would like to not be broken on osx :) )14:16
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mordredjeblair: ++14:16
Alex_Gaynormordred: to be sure I've got this right `git tag "v0.4" && python setup.py sdist` should get be an sdist thats at 0.4?14:16
mordredAlex_Gaynor: git tag -s 0.4 should get you an sdist that's a 0.414:16
Alex_Gaynormordred: ah, signed tags only?14:16
mordredAlex_Gaynor: make sure you always sign the tags (otherwise git describe doesn't see them) and drop the v14:17
mordredAlex_Gaynor: yup14:17
Alex_Gaynormordred: ok, indeed, works on linux14:18
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fungijeblair: open bug team for g-r sounds great by me14:30
mordredAlex_Gaynor: _awesome_14:32
Alex_Gaynormordred: does https://github.com/alex/alchimia/pull/11/files look right to you?14:32
Alex_Gaynormordred: ps: you should do a pbr release so I can do stuff from OS X :)14:32
mordredAlex_Gaynor: I'll dig out a mac when I get home this evening and see if I can both reproduce it and that the new patch fixes it14:32
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mordredAlex_Gaynor: yes, I would like to - but I need to land one outstanding patch first, because trunk pbr breaks windows14:36
mordredjeblair: morning14:36
mordredAlex_Gaynor: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42337/ is the patch I believe needs to land before a release14:36
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jeblairmordred: morning14:38
mordredjeblair: north carolina says hi14:38
jeblairmordred: eat a pig for me14:40
dhellmannmmmm, pig14:40
fungiin north carolina we eat a pig every morning14:40
fungiit's the law14:40
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Alex_Gaynormordred: k, anyways besides the hiccup where I couldn't release from my local machine, works great14:41
mordredAlex_Gaynor: w00t! (details details)14:42
dhellmannAlex_Gaynor: did you hit the unicode version string issue on OS X, or were you having some other problem14:43
dhellmann?14:43
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Alex_Gaynordhellmann: I hit http://bpaste.net/show/RDHGFMxqYjMQAuC0xZiB/ under OS X14:44
dhellmannAlex_Gaynor: yep14:44
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dhellmannAlex_Gaynor: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48355/14:45
dhellmannalthough from your comment about a release it sounds like maybe someone has already fixed the problem in master14:45
Alex_Gaynordhellmann: mordred said it was fixed14:45
mordredI believe it is fixed in master - I would like to verify that14:46
dhellmannmordred: did you fix it? my patch failed tempest and ended up abandoned when I got distracted14:46
mordreddhellmann: hrm. maybe this is a different issue than the one I thought14:46
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dhellmannmordred: this is the thing where the shell output is always returned as unicode, but setuptools/distutils sometimes wants ascii strings14:47
mordreddhellmann: AH14:47
dhellmannespecially for versions14:47
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mordreddhellmann: sometimes I want to die inside14:47
dhellmannit's not clear to me why we get version string values that can't be converted to ascii, but there you are14:48
dhellmannI hate implicit type casting14:48
mordredyah.14:49
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mordredjeblair: I actually did not have any pig, but I did have some lovely local trout14:50
mordredasheville is like a miniature portland, btw14:50
jeblairmordred: i think portland is like a big asheville14:50
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mordredjeblair: they're both like small versions of austin14:51
jeblairmordred: i don't think that's the case at all.  :)14:51
fungiyeah, after spending most of my life in asheville, portlant didn't seem particularly unusual. just more wet14:51
mordredyou're right - neither have NEARLY enough live music :)14:51
jeblairmordred: asheville has been weird longer than portland has existed14:52
mordredjeblair: you need to go to the more obscure neighborhoods in austin. that's portland's problem, it's too obvious about its obscurity ;)14:52
mordredjeblair: and agreed14:52
fungimountain isolation eventually makes people go crazy. at least that was always my explanation14:52
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mordredthe local food scene here is quite lovely - tons of locavore stuff14:53
fungiyet another random project bug filed against openstack-ci. i wonder if we should change the lp project description for that from "openstack core infrastructure" to "openstack community infrastructure"14:56
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mordredor developer infrastructure? or - "you probably don't want to file bugs here"14:56
jeblairso much for 'start your own thread for tc nominations'14:57
mordredjeblair: did someone not do that? my mail client is showing them all as separate threads14:57
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jeblairmordred: oh, hm, perhaps gnus is being too 'smart' with threads.14:59
mordred:)14:59
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fungiyeah, mutt separated them all for me even when they had identical subject lines15:05
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fungibut i think by default mutt only respects references and irt headers15:05
jd__jeblair: that's a Gnus default, indeed15:06
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jd__jeblair: see `gnus-summary-thread-gathering-function' IIRC15:06
jeblairjd__: i was fooled because it didn't put them all in _one_ thread; it put them in two.15:08
anteayain my thunderbird they are all separate threads, in the official archives, it is one long thread: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-October/thread.html15:13
anteayafor my purposes I am just happy that so far, no one has felt compelled to offer a +1 post15:13
anteayaso even though they are all one thread in the archives, I can see I have confirmed them all and haven't missed anyone15:14
anteayajeblair: where did your email client draw the line for creating a second thread?15:16
jeblairanteaya: it's a mystery!15:17
anteayait is15:17
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jeblairit's not really bothering me though, so i'll move on to starting new threads of my own.15:18
anteayaokay15:18
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zarohashar: you interested in deploying plugin to jenkinsci repo?16:19
hasharzaro: I found a plugin that send Jenkins metrics to statsd16:19
hasharhttps://github.com/joemiller/jenkins-statsd-plugin16:20
hasharI have build the .hpi myself16:20
hasharbut though some other people would be interested in having it in the plugin update center.  I filled a couple issues to joemiller16:20
mordredjeblair: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48064/ - do you think the 'right' thing to do would be to just have devstack-vm-gate-wrap.sh always pass in openstack as the org?16:21
hasharzaro: apparently I might able to release it myself using a fork and my github account. :-D16:22
zarohashar: i see, thought it might be something in openstack.  i've already gone thru the process of doing that for openstack.16:23
zarohashar: you'll need to use your issue.jenkins-ci.org account.16:24
jeblairmordred: i think that will accomplish the immediate goal -- re-use the mirror script logic; it probably won't accomplish an implied secondary goal -- better support non-openstack project use of d-g16:24
hasharzaro: ah good to know. Thanks. If you are around later on, I might poke you.16:24
mordredjeblair: nod. I suppose also we could add logic to select-mirror to grok that devstack and devstack-gate want the openstack mirror...16:25
mordredalthough that seems ick16:25
zarohashar: np. btw, we are using curl not the mvn release plugin to deploy.16:25
hasharjeblair: I got a statsd service since this morning!! :-]16:25
mordredhashar: w00t16:25
hasharjeblair: lamely copy pasted your code and I get a niceeee graph at the bottom of https://integration.wikimedia.org/zuul/16:26
jeblairmordred: yeah, that might be a good next-step.  i know, but select-mirror is at least a place to focus business logic.16:26
hasharmordred: indeed :-]16:26
mordredjeblair: ++16:26
jeblairhashar: yay!  i love graphs!16:26
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clarkbmorning16:28
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hasharclarkb: thank you for the review of my zuul/statsd documentation ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49887/ ).  I replied there16:29
hasharerr16:29
hasharmixing up changes, that is inter sphinx mapping being enabled in zuul sphinx config.16:29
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hasharand that is lifeles16:29
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zaromordred: about bug 108310116:30
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1083101 in openstack-ci "Set up private gerrit for security reviews" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108310116:30
zaromordred: clarkb says we don't want to replicate mysql because we want seperate accounts.16:30
fungiwhy do we want separate accounts?16:31
clarkbnot just separate accoutns but separate databases16:31
zarofungi: yes, i meant seperate reviews.16:32
clarkbto minimize leakage and management of maintaining such replication16:32
fungiahh, right. i don't know much about mysql replication but if it can't do specific tables and etl filters then probably need something smarter to sync those up16:32
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clarkbbecause the reviews ^ will need to be made non overlapping and so on16:32
jeblairsyncing?16:33
jeblairsyncing what?16:33
fungipublic gerrit account configuration to private security gerrit16:34
jeblairwe just got rid of account syncing.  can we avoid adding it back?16:34
jeblairor are we really certain it's going to work just fine?  :)16:35
clarkbjeblair: I am arguing we don't want to sync anything but git repos from public to private16:35
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fungithe workflow which got proposed (and which is debateable as to how implementable it is) was that the patch submitter (sometimes same as the bug/vulnerability reporter) pushes a review to the security gerrit and then select security reviewers from the target project comment on iterations of the patch until it's ready for publication to the real gerrit16:35
clarkbmordred indicated that the DB should be synced too (or bits of it like accounts)16:35
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fungialternatively, we could simply decree that anyone wanting to submit a patch for review on an embargoed security vulnerability neesds to set up their own account on the security gerrit (cla, ssh keys, et cetera)16:36
mordredI believe I was wrong about that16:36
mordredalthough I _think_ what I was saying was that _if_ we wanted to sync them, then we'd have to sync not only git but mysql as well16:37
jeblairokay, so i lean toward what clarkb said because i think the more moving parts this has the easier it will break; however, i could be persuaded that "no, syncing just the accounts will be really easy and work flawlessly"...16:37
clarkboh yeah that was the other thing re accounts. If they aren't synced then I can use different keys on each server making it harder to push to the wrong one16:37
fungii have doubts it would be trivial to sync the account configuration from the real gerrit to the locked-down gerrit16:37
jeblairbut if we haven't already hashed that out (i don't recall for sure, but i think we may have been vague at the design summit session), maybe we should discuss it in depth;  maybe someone can investigate and propose something to the -infra list?16:38
fungiand yes, it is conceivable someone might want separate account configuration on both gerrits16:38
clarkbzaro: ^16:38
fungii think discussing it in a thread on the -infra ml along with ttx and mikal would be a good next step16:39
clarkb++16:39
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zarook. i'll send an email.16:39
fungibecause how the security gerrit gets configured will depend a great deal on what's reasonably possible lined up next to what workflows are usable16:40
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fungithe goal, as i understand it, is to make it easier for security reviewers on the various projects to help the patch submitters iterate through fixes, as compared to discussing patches attached to private launchpad bug reports16:41
zaroare we certain that we want non overlapping reviews or is that also a question for the ml?16:42
jeblairzaro: what does non-overlapping mean in this context?16:43
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fungiit doesn't hurt to talk about it, but i don't think any workflow involving importing changes from the security gerrit into the public gerrit is going to work out particularly well (if at all)16:43
zaroi could be wrong, but i think what clarkb meant is that reviews pushed to security gerrit should be completely independent of ones on regular gerrit.16:44
fungii expect we're going to have to git-am and push to the other gerrit anyway16:44
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clarkbright, they should be independent16:45
clarkbmeaning you iterate in private gerrit. Eventaully you get the needed reivew there then you run git review pointed at public gerrit16:45
clarkband review there will probably be very fast but the comments etc don't need to be merged or anything like that16:45
fungiyep16:46
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fungiactually i'd imagine my workflow would be something like git review -d the change from the security gerrit and then git review it to the public gerrit at publication time16:47
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fungithat way it preserves author metadata and also hopefully leaves the gitsha the same so the original core reviewers can easily confirm it's the same patch without needing to take time to review it yet again16:51
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zarofungi: so you don't care that the review info from security gerrit gets to public gerrit right?16:51
clarkbyou do care16:52
clarkbbut mostly because merging that info back the other direction seems like a pain16:52
fungiright, i think that's one of those things which would be nice, but seems next to impossible to do correctly and safely16:53
fungiand we need to strike some balance between what's desirable and what's reasonable16:54
clarkbjeblair: for cloud DBs, workflow seems to be create instance, create DB, create user, update hiera and point service with user at DB. Do we want one instance per DB?16:54
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clarkbone instance per DB may be a little overkill but protects us from derpage on any single instance16:55
mordredclarkb: I think once instance per DB is the right choice16:55
mordredclarkb: I also agree that it is most likely overkill16:56
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zarosounds good, so the only question is whether we should sync accounts right?17:02
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clarkbtrying to sort out where the intersection of old puppet-mysql manifests and new clouddbs is. Seems like there isn't much of one (clouddb sorts out all of the stuff that puppet-mysql was doing for us)17:03
zarothe workflow (by fungi) seems pretty straight forward.17:03
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mordredclarkb: yes17:04
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clarkbthe only semi exception is backups (since we still want append only backups) which will require writing a my.cnf on the server so that the cron can run (I will make that part of the backups module)17:05
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mordredclarkb: yup17:07
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Limit bug links in Gerrit to recommended headers  https://review.openstack.org/4810817:14
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fungizaro: the defining characteristic we described for it is that anonymous and general registered users cannot see changes on any projects, but designated core reviewers for the project to which the change is targeted (as well as the vmt members, change owner, and possibly manually-subscribed reviewers for that specific change) can view/comment/vote on it17:15
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Support GERRIT_USER env var  https://review.openstack.org/5013917:16
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Support GERRIT_USER env var  https://review.openstack.org/5013917:16
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openstackgerritAlejandro Cabrera proposed a change to openstack/requirements: reqs: update falcon to 0.1.7  https://review.openstack.org/5014017:32
fungiclarkb: you may have missed jeblair's suggestion in the scrollback, but how do you feel about git-review maybe having open membership on its bug group?17:35
clarkbfungi: fine with me17:35
clarkbwhat do folks think about me ripping etherpad_dev out of the puppet machinery? we haven't really used that host much17:36
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fungido we expect to continue not to test new etherpad with it?17:36
clarkbmy current plan for etherpad.o.o is to replace it completely17:37
jeblairclarkb: are you not doing that by replacing etherpad-dev?17:37
clarkbI was going to spin up a third host to replace etherpad.o.o17:37
clarkbI guess a better question is do we remove etherpad_dev or replace it as well17:38
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jeblairclarkb: i think it's handy for testing new etherpad versions; but i don't actually care about it and don't think it should slow your work... maybe leave it in, and we'll spin up a replacement for it later?17:39
clarkbthat works17:39
zarofungi: what is a vmt member?17:39
fungijeblair: mordred: clarkb: lifeless: i have switched git-review-bugs from moderated to open, since we had unanimous consent for it17:39
jeblairclarkb: (it's like the other -dev hosts; they're nice when you need them)17:39
fungizaro: vulnerability management team member17:39
jeblairfungi: thank you17:39
clarkbjeblair: ya17:39
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zarofungi: thnx.17:40
fungizaro: leisure reading material... https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Vulnerability_Management17:40
fungithat outlines our current process17:40
fungimight give you some common ground for the discussion17:40
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clarkbI will push an outline of what I think etherpad_dev should look like, but it won't be useable without a cloud db and so on17:41
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fungiclarkb: i am perfectly fine with etherpad-dev being indefinitely broken until someone has time to make it not so, as long as that helps you with building the new production one17:42
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fungiseems like a reasonable trade-off17:43
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jeblairclarkb: will we be able to import the old etherpads into the new?17:47
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clarkbjeblair: yes17:47
jeblairexcellent17:48
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clarkb(I haven't tested that, but reading the docs there aren't any nasty schema changes or anything like that that would be problematic)17:48
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klrmni got a verbal answer to this at the last summit, without time to write down the answer. could someone remind me the official reason why nose is out of favor and how testr solves the issue?17:51
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anteayatestr allows us to run tests in parallel17:54
anteayathis saves a lot of time17:54
anteayaklrmn: ^17:54
anteayatime actually is our most valuable resource right now17:54
anteayaor commodity, depending on how you look at it17:54
klrmnanteaya: i can see how that may be the case, but it is not applicable to my current issue. it's something about setUpClass / tearDownClass that i heard17:55
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jeblairklrmn: in short: nose breaks some standard testing protocols; testr supports parallel execution; and we have the potential to get data in real time from testr while it runs17:55
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jeblairklrmn: ah, that's probably the first issue i mentioned then that you're concerned about17:55
clarkbklrmn: oh that particular reason. setUpClass is broken under python26 in nose17:55
klrmnjeblair: lack of real-time data (or rather, loss of data in the event of ctrl-c drives me nuts about nose…-x just doesn't cut it in all cases)17:56
clarkb(nose implements that machinery itself since it isn't in unittest until 2.7 and you get very odd behavior out of it. iirc if an exception is thrown in a setupclass all tests for that class are not run but nose reports success)17:56
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klrmnclarkb: hm. using 2.7 rather than 2.6, so it's probably not that…i manage to get myself into all sorts of corner cases when setUpClass fails part way thru leaving things that need cleaning up but not running tearDownClass17:57
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klrmnclarkb: i started wrapping things in setUpClass in try except blocks so i could do cleanup, and that meshes very poorly with —pdb so that i can *solve* the problem, because it's already run clean-up before i get there17:58
clarkbklrmn: you should look at testresources17:59
clarkband python-fixtures17:59
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anteayaand the streak is broken17:59
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anteayasomebody just had to offer a +1 email18:00
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Document how to delete a pad from Etherpad Lite  https://review.openstack.org/4632918:00
klrmnclarkb: yeah, i should…it just scares the crap out of me to try to migrate this project (which is not really openstack) by my lonesome18:00
clarkbmodeling resources and requesting them as needed rather than needing to manage corresponding setups and teardowns is nice (granted a new tool needs learning but the end result is nice)18:00
openstackgerritDavid Kranz proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Call a script to check for ERRORs in logs on tempest success  https://review.openstack.org/5014318:00
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Update etherpad and etherpad puppet manifests.  https://review.openstack.org/4536018:01
clarkbI am going to spin ^ up on my test server to make sure it all still works, if it does I will create a cloud db and spin up the replacement etherpad.o.o18:01
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fungianteaya: in my mind i picture the author of any +1 e-mail standing up in a quiet but full auditorium, cheering loudly and waving a huge novelty foam hand18:02
anteayaha ha ha18:02
anteayathe foam hand clinches it18:02
anteayapoor guy, probably doesn't read the ml much18:03
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Update etherpad and etherpad puppet manifests.  https://review.openstack.org/4536018:04
clarkbnow it should pass linting18:04
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Ajaeger1infra team, I would appreciate if you could get this patch for the manual gates in soonish : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48128/ . Thanks!18:13
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Ajaeger1fungi: Thanks!18:18
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klrmnclarkb: i am wishing https://pypi.python.org/pypi/testresources had a section on 'running tests that use testresource'18:18
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Create new gates for openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/4812818:18
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fungiAjaeger1: ^ (you're welcome!)18:23
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clarkbklrmn: I think the idea is you don't have to do anything special if you list the resources as in the example18:23
klrmnclarkb: i am wondering whether it is specific to being run by testr (or UnitTest) or whether it also works when run by nose or py.test18:24
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clarkbklrmn: it should work with any unittest compatible test runner18:27
clarkbI fully expect nose and py.test to handle it just fine18:27
clarkband if they don't I am sure lifeless would treat failure as bugs18:27
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klrmnclarkb: that's a good sign. otherwise i'd end up having to refactor the entire project in one go, and that would be super-painful18:28
lifelesshi18:28
lifelessyes18:29
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klrmnthank you lifeless18:32
klrmnlifeless: are there any guides to 'migrating from nose to testr' out there?18:32
lifelessklrmn: clarkb wrote one ;)18:33
klrmnoooooo18:34
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clarkbI did? I think I wrote general guidelines, but every project is different18:34
klrmnclarkb: gotta be better than nothing =)18:35
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klrmnclarkb: especially since i bet you wrote it on the *second* project you migrated rather than the first =)18:35
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clarkbklrmn: I sent it to the mailing list back in december iirc. Also there is a testr wiki page18:47
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klrmnclarkb: i'm not finding it on http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/...different mailing list?18:50
lifelessrussellb: ping (reviewstats, does it autodeploy?)18:51
russellblifeless: replied to your email, or thought i did18:51
russellblifeless: it is supposed to but was broken18:51
russellblifeless: should be good now18:52
lifelessrussellb: cool!18:52
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lifelessrussellb: I hit IRC before email :)18:52
russellbah, k np18:52
lifelessrussellb: I wonder if we should record the current deployed hash somewhere in it's output18:52
lifelessrussellb: so that non-ops can tell18:52
russellbyep that's a good idea18:52
clarkbklrmn: openstack-dev18:52
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openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for bug 1235486  https://review.openstack.org/4984618:59
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1235486 in neutron "Integrity violation on delete network" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123548618:59
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Update etherpad and etherpad puppet manifests.  https://review.openstack.org/4536019:02
clarkblatest patchset fixes a bug that my test box pointed out to me. And I got plugins working.19:03
clarkbsdague: ^ I can update that change to add plugins to etherpad if you like. Is headings the only one you really want?19:03
clarkbI am about to find lunch, but plan to spin up the clouddb after that19:03
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openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Put HEAD hash in published results output  https://review.openstack.org/5015619:04
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Put HEAD hash in published results output  https://review.openstack.org/5015619:04
clarkbif anyone else wants etherpad plugins installed let me know. I think it would be best to get in what we can now19:06
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lifelessrussellb: there doesn't seem to be a single entry point for the project?19:07
lifelessrussellb: I mean, there are three genresults scripts, are they all independently in cron ?19:07
russellbyeah19:07
russellbone of them i'm not running yet19:07
russellbthe other 2 are at different frequencies19:08
russellbopen reviews once an hour, reviewer stats 4 times a day, because it requires pulling down a *lot* more data from gerrit19:08
lifelessI'm just wondering where to stash the git hash19:08
klrmnperhaps i should take my testresources questions to a more appropriate channel, except i don't recall which channel that would be19:08
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russellblifeless: oh i already did it, see openstackgerrit above19:09
lifelessrussellb: hah, ok19:09
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clarkbklrmn: openstack-dev is probably best for an openstack audience. Not sure if lifeless and friends have a channel they discuss generaltest stuff in19:09
clarkbklrmn: I am happy to answer specific questions (just a bit ited down trying to spin up a replacement etherpad service)19:10
openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Also generate 60 day stats.  https://review.openstack.org/5015819:10
lifelessklrmn: what's the question ?19:10
klrmnlifeless / clarkb: so, one of my issues is that i essentially have fixtures that are dependent upon the existance of other fixtures, so is it safe to assume that the resources list is creats the fixtures in the order of the list, and do they have access to one another?19:11
lifelessklrmn: it's not ordered; you can express dependencies by just giving the objects links to each other19:12
lifelessklrmn: it's not ordered because given two tests with differing resources, we pull down the set difference then bring up the flip side19:13
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devanandaclarkb: hi! i may have dropped the ball on something -- what do yhou need me to do to get transifex going for ironic?19:14
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klrmnlifeless: i don't have a picture in my head of how to 'give the objects links to each other'19:15
clarkbdevananda: not you that dropped the ball. It has been a semi perfect storm of weirdness (I lost access to nova cinder etc and didn't want to step on toes)19:16
lifelessklrmn: are you using FixtureResource or the more generic ResourceManager?19:16
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devanandaclarkb: ahh, sounds fun. when you have bandwidth, pls let me know what i an do to get things rolling19:16
clarkbfungi: I think you said that the changes were unintentional? does that mean we should be fine to do what we can with what transifex creds we do have?19:16
klrmnlifeless: i'm in planning stage, and will need to migrate from UnitTest based nose19:17
clarkbdevananda: will do. I should probably just write mail to fifieldt and daisy and get a concrete answer that way19:17
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lifelessklrmn: I didn't realise nose had a fixture-alike19:17
sdagueclarkb: yeh, ep_headings was the plugin I wanted19:18
lifelessklrmn: or are you migrating from setUpModule / setUpClass ?19:18
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klrmnlifeless: setUpClass19:19
pabelangerlifeless: Seen your comments about nodepool patches, not sure how you and jeblair want to proceed.  Since nodepool has zero unittesting at this point19:19
lifelesspabelanger: it will be up to jeblair, but testing has to start somewhere.19:19
lifelesspabelanger: and jeblair's explicit statement to me at the start of the project was 'after release'19:20
pabelangerI see19:20
lifelessI don't want to hold your work hostage19:20
klrmnlifeless: it probably has a fixture-alike, i was using the term fixture as a general concept…what i've got now is a deeply nested test classes that each build upon the parents' setup19:20
lifelessOTOH if we don't start unittesting, we won't get unittests.19:20
lifelessklrmn: ah! ok19:21
pabelangerlifeless: no, I agree, code changes should have unit tests but not sure how to proceed with it.  Or if jeblair had something specific in mind19:21
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klrmnlifeless: but since nose will tear the class down all the way before starting the next test, i'm loosing a lot of time on things that could be shared because they don't get dirty enough to count19:21
lifelessklrmn: righto, perfect scenario for testr19:22
lifelessand testresources19:22
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Update etherpad and etherpad puppet manifests.  https://review.openstack.org/4536019:22
clarkbsdague: ^ added ep_headings19:23
clarkband now really time for lunh19:23
lifelessklrmn: have you read the README for testresources?19:24
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lifelessklrmn: specifically19:26
lifelessklrmn: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~testresources-developers/testresources/trunk/view/head:/README#L14619:26
lifelessI haven't really mapped that into FixtureResource yet19:27
lifelessbecause Fixtures was a deliberately simpler API19:27
lifelessbut using the native testresources API you should be able to do a sensible mapping; let me know if this is still clear as mud ;)19:27
klrmnlifeless: yeah, i read that on pypy19:27
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lifelessclarkb: any thoughts on the xattr fail in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48828/ ?19:29
lifelessjeblair: I've replied on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49333/19:29
lifelesshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/49090/ seems to be stalled in gerrit somewhere?19:30
mordredBACKSCROLL19:31
lifelessmordred: nothing jumps out at me19:32
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openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Change test_queries from logical AND to OR  https://review.openstack.org/5016019:33
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mordredlifeless: (I means 'omg there is a lot of backscroll' not 'you should read the backscroll lifeless')19:33
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fungiclarkb: yeah, tom fixed it this morning and added openstackjenkins as an administrator for the openstack hub on transifex as well as the individual projects there19:34
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Also generate 60 day stats.  https://review.openstack.org/5015819:35
fungiclarkb: and he suggested we start a thread on the internationalization and localization list to discuss individual access for helping troubleshoot configuration/permissions issues on transifex but that he thought it was a good idea19:35
fungiclarkb: anyway, permissions were incorrect for (at least) nova and cinder there from august 30th until today19:36
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mordredDani Katz is prepared for DELETION (FREEZE)19:37
mordredthat seems like the most existential message I've seen from an autoresponder19:38
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jog0mordred: I liked that one too19:39
mordredO M G the airport lounge wifi is SOOOO SLOOOWWWWW19:40
lifelessfungi: any idea whats up with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49090/ ?19:40
fungilifeless: i've seen that in the past, not certain what causes it. the patch successfully merges to the git repository but for some reason gerrit is maintaining some internal state about it (maybe it's missing some sort of confirmation it expected from jgit's merge call?)19:42
fungiwhen gerrit gets restarted those end up showing as "merged?19:42
fungier, s/?/"19:42
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fungilifeless: as suspected, that change is merged and nothing in gerrit's error log explains the situation there (no errors logged within a minute of that merge commit in either direction)19:50
lifelessfungi: is there a bug for this behaviour? It's darn annoying19:50
mordredlifeless: we've not figured out how to reproduce it, so no19:50
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fungii find at least a couple bugs upstream for similar behavior, but it's unclear what the circumstances are we're hitting19:51
openstackgerritElizabeth Krumbach Joseph proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add initial files for tripleo in the gate.  https://review.openstack.org/4945419:51
fungiand also it may be something fixed between 2.4 and 2.719:51
russellblifeless: 60 day stats, with a git hash - http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-60.txt19:51
fungilifeless: i just added myself to the project bootstrappers group temporarily and pounded the submit button on that change, so it seems correctly reflected as merged now19:52
lifelessrussellb: sweet, thanks!19:53
lifelessfungi: thanks :)19:53
lifelessmordred: it seems to be 'have lifeless use gerrit'19:53
fungiyou and SpamapS are great at finding bugs in gerrit somehow19:54
pleia2if I could get some eyeballs on the above patch, it would be great - this is our super simply initial test for tripleo stuff in the new tripleo cloud, only experimental and simple for now19:56
pleia2s/simply/simple19:56
jeblairlifeless: can you provide supporting documentation that code meant to run under python 2.x should not subclass object?19:57
SpamapSfungi: we're like bulls in a china shop. Best if you wrap the china in some unit-test padding before we run through. :)19:59
fungiduly noted19:59
pleia2hehe19:59
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lifelessjeblair: its the other way around20:01
lifelessjeblair: subclassing object in Python 3 is unusual20:01
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lifelessjeblair: because the default metaclass is type20:02
jeblairlifeless: okay, so most of us are writing python2 code that might opportunistically work with python3 at this point, because we're mostly running python220:02
jeblairlifeless: our nodepool is running under python220:02
lifelessjeblair: the only reason to explicitly subclass object is if you're using descriptors or multiple inheritance20:02
lifelessjeblair: __metaclass__ = type is probably want you want then20:03
jeblairlifeless: the advice given to every python2 programmer is "subclass object"; and if python changed that, that's insane20:03
jeblairlifeless: i've never heard that, so i'd really like to read up on it20:03
lifelessjeblair: so subclassing object gets you new style classes20:03
lifelessjeblair: which is the only style of class in Python320:03
jeblairlifeless: so far, that sounds not-incompatible20:05
lifelesshttp://docs.python.org/3.0/tutorial/classes.html for instance20:07
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lifelessclass MyClass:20:07
lifelessjeblair: it's not that it won't work, it's that it's cruft that's been cleaned up20:07
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lifelessjeblair: and http://docs.python.org/3/howto/pyporting.html20:08
lifelessNew-style classes have been around since Python 2.2. You need to make sure you are subclassing from object to avoid odd edge cases involving method resolution order, etc. This continues to be totally valid in Python 3 (although unneeded as all classes implicitly inherit from object).20:08
fungipython 2.x is cruft which has been cleaned up20:09
lifelesshttp://www.diveinto.org/python3/iterators.html#defining-classes20:09
lifelessetc20:09
lifeless(object) is a Python 2.x ism, is only needed in Python 2.x when using multiple inheritance or descriptors20:09
jeblairthat seems like exactly the sort of thing that should be cleaned up when we no-longer need to support python2 at all20:09
jeblairsince we are supporting python2, it seems like the cost of continuing to subclass object is minimal20:10
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jeblairand the benefit is that people who are not experts in metaclasses, or the nuances of when new-style and old-style classes should be used in python2 actually know what's going on20:10
jeblairincluding the author of the project in question.  :)20:11
lifelesssure20:11
lifelessI can tweak it20:11
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jeblairlifeless: cool, thanks20:12
openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/gerritlib: Allow ctrl-Cing gerritlib programs.  https://review.openstack.org/4933320:13
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clarkbjeblair: did you happen to document the clouddb process when you spun one up for groups?20:21
jeblairclarkb: i'm not sure that i've tried it with the command line clients yet; i think i only gui'd it20:23
jeblairfungi: ^ you?20:23
clarkboh, in that case I will forge new ground and document what I learn20:23
jeblairclarkb: the actual process i followed was "mimic what monty did with other db's that are already there"20:23
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clarkbmordred: did you use the command client at all? I am mostly interested in gotchas around it not supporting env vars like the other clients20:27
fungijeblair: clarkb i used the webui since mordred and hub_cap say the cli is still in progress/lacking20:28
clarkbhmm, maybe I should just use the web ui for now then20:28
jeblairoh, right.  that's hub_cap's #2 priority after getting devstack tests working.  :)20:29
fungii looked at one of the existing ones already in production and duplicated the same pattern i saw (container, database, user, permissions)20:29
hub_cap:)20:29
hub_caphttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/48576/ <-- pretty damn close to working20:29
hub_capive been able to pawn off devstack for a few days20:29
clarkbfungi: thanks. I will take a look at the it through the web ui then20:30
fungiclarkb: when you create the db (or the container maybe, i forget which) it will tell you what your db instance hostname is, and then you can cram that in hiera20:30
clarkboh looks like mordred (or someone) already started the process?20:31
clarkbinstances are created but not users and DBs. This makes so much more sense now20:31
clarkbactually etherpad has a user and db20:32
clarkbmordred: were these DBs created with the info already in hiera?20:32
clarkbmordred: users too20:32
jeblairlifeless, pabelanger: yes, i would like tests for nodepool.  on my own priority list, that actually falls just below docs for nodepool; so realistically i'm not going to get to it for a little while yet.20:36
jeblairlifeless, pabelanger: until then, i personally plan to be careful approving changes, possibly running some tests by hand to try to make sure that changes don't break the way we're using it20:37
clarkblooks like mordred templated most of this stuff out. This is easy only minimal work on my side \o/20:37
jeblairif anyone wants to start working on tests now, even a minimal no-op testing framework, that would certainly be helpfull20:38
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clarkbour current etherpad server is a 4GB node. According to cacti it is using about 1GB of that and has ~2.5GB in use for cache20:40
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clarkbshould I shrink the new one to 2GB?20:40
jeblairclarkb: lemme look at the graphs for a min20:41
clarkbjeblair: ok20:41
pleia2jeblair: re: docs, would a helpful first step be simply splitting out what's currently in devstack gate docs into a new nodepool doc that we can work on from there (I can do that, would help me learn too)20:41
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jeblairpleia2: i think it wants a sphinx framework (which d-g doesn't have), so that's probably step 1.  then step2 is probably copy the relevant d-g docs over20:43
jeblairpleia2: (also, the ci.openstack.org docs need a nodepool section)20:43
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pleia2jeblair: oh, are there dg docs beyond just http://ci.openstack.org/devstack-gate.html ?20:44
pleia2there's also the readme in the code20:44
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jeblairpleia2: the readme is ~= http://ci.openstack.org/devstack-gate.html20:44
jeblairclarkb: wow.  i can't think of a reason not to shrink to 2g.20:45
pleia2ok, this could do with some untangling, I'll take a look20:45
clarkbjeblair: that is basically what I was thinking. Also growing is easier than shrinking20:46
jeblairpleia2: i may have abbreviated that too much;  i just meant that http://ci.openstack.org/devstack-gate.html was mostly copied from the readme.20:46
clarkbfungi: mordred ^ any opinions on etherpad server size?20:46
pleia2jeblair: yeah, those are the only two docs though, right?20:46
jeblairclarkb: we keep the same # of vcpus. also, i don't see resource spikes during summits.20:46
jeblairpleia2: correcty20:46
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pleia2my plan was just to write up a nodepool page on ci.openstack.org for now20:46
jeblairpleia2: that sounds like a wonderful plan20:47
pleia2jeblair: great20:47
mgagnelooking forwards to it, I'm curious about that tool20:47
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jeblairclarkb: ah, there is a network traffic spike during summits20:48
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jeblairclarkb: also, inbound traffic has greatly increased since the start of august... o_O20:48
jeblairhttp://cacti.openstack.org/cacti/graph.php?action=view&local_graph_id=122&rra_id=all20:48
clarkbinteresting, I wonder if we are being used to store stuff20:49
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jeblairclarkb: however, we can certainly handle the 70kbps load with any server size.20:50
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clarkbya, I think 2GB seems reasonable20:50
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clarkbwill spinning up a second server called etherpad be too confusing? (I prefer it to reduce cleanup down the road)20:54
sorenmordred: So from now on, it's your fault, because you haven't told me what to change it to. Neat, huh? :)20:54
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sorenmordred: The ^ was chosen to allow uvirtbot to coexist with ubottu (which already used '!'). I don't recall any other restrictions.20:58
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clarkbok I am booting a new etherpad.o.o, I will puppet it against the puppet development env so that we don't conflict with existing etherpad.o.o on the puppet side of things21:01
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clarkbexisting etherpad.o.o does not have its puppet certs on the puppet master. I am copying those files around now21:11
fungiclarkb: i agree on sizing. 2gb seems fine21:11
clarkband by copying around I mean copying them to puppetmaster so that new server can use them too21:11
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mriedemhas anyone seen issues in the gate with getting mimeparse installed?21:31
mriedemhttp://logs.openstack.org/19/49819/2/gate/gate-tempest-devstack-vm-full/ca32542/console.html21:31
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clarkbmriedem: I haven't. It looks like devstack just bombed outfor some reason though21:33
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mriedemclarkb: reverify no bug?21:34
clarkbmriedem: I would look for an existing bug at the very least21:34
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mriedemclarkb: i didn't see an existing recheck, but looks like dkranz already reported it awhile back so i'll recheck on that21:35
mriedemhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/123228321:35
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uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1232283 in devstack "devstack exits with error for "no reason" in tempest run" [Undecided,New]21:35
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marunlifeless, or other testr guru...21:41
marunI've added a new 'functional' test directory to neutron, but tox isn't running it21:42
marunis there something special I need to do to get this parallel tree to run?21:42
marun('functional' is a sibling of 'unit')21:42
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marunlifeless: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45676/21:43
clarkbmarun: I think .testr.conf is too specifc21:44
clarkbmarun: change neutron/tests/unit to neutron/tests then it should discover all of them21:45
marunclarkb: much appreciated! :)21:46
clarkbnp (we could even tell it to discover at ./ but being slightly restrictive is nice so that discover doesn't find little test scripts that folks write21:46
marunclarkb: I agree, leaving it in the test tree is preferable21:49
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clarkbnew etherpad is up. Looks like folks may need to clear browser caches to make ti be happy :/22:12
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clarkbI am going to put old etherpad's DB on new etherpad in a bit to check the old pads work fine22:13
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hub_capclarkb: are u using cloud databases for that? :)22:23
clarkbhub_cap: yes22:27
clarkbhub_cap: old server is self hosted DB, new server uses a clouddb22:27
hub_captight22:28
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clarkboh hmm you guys run an older version of mysql :P22:36
clarkbnot sure if that matter22:36
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sdagueclarkb: you didn't add in the headings plugin yet did you?22:46
clarkbsdague: I did on the new server22:47
sdagueurl to test?22:48
clarkbsdague: 166.78.29.95 you'll need to convice your browser to hit that as etherpad.o.o (I set it in /etc/hosts)22:48
clarkband I just copied the old DB into the new DB so any pad you had before should be valid22:48
sdaguecool, does it have the old db in it?22:48
clarkbyup22:48
sdaguegreat22:48
jeblairopenstackgerrit is gone22:49
jeblairlooking22:49
sdagueyay22:49
sdagueclarkb: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/icehouse-qa-session-planning (on new server)22:50
clarkbpleia2: did the tripleo-initial-testing pad have content on it? I opened it before I did the DB copy and now I open it and just get the default header22:50
jeblairnothing remotely useful in the debug log22:50
sdaguethe headings plugin makes me happy22:50
clarkbpleia2: can you check on the old server? trying to make sure that the DB recovery isn't derping when deleting the old tables22:50
pleia2clarkb: yes22:50
pleia2it has a bunch of content22:51
pleia2and chat22:51
clarkbpleia2: I thought so, thanks22:51
pleia2(makes a good example!)22:51
jeblairoh, there is some info; it's the usual AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'send'22:51
jeblairerror22:51
clarkbpleia2: I wonder if the clouddb user doesn't have sufficient perms to drop the old table so it ends up merging things together poorly22:51
pleia2that would be sad22:51
clarkbhmm information schema says the eplite user can drop stuff in the etherpad-lite DB22:55
clarkbOOOOHHHHHH I bet I know what happened. I didn't stop etherpad-lite before recovering the DB. I bet I need to stop etherpad lite, recover DB, then restart it22:55
clarkbsdague: I am going to do that now22:55
pleia2\o/22:56
sdagueclarkb: ah, that's why it just went away22:56
clarkbI may be getting ahead of myself, but if this goes well what do we think of swapping servers this weekend?22:58
clarkbI assume we may want to do some load testing first?22:58
sdagueclarkb: honestly, I'd say do it. My experience with etherpad is if it looks good, go for it.22:58
sdagueand that will let issues shake out before summit22:59
sdaguewith enough time to ping folks on their channel if there is a real issue22:59
sdagueclarkb: so does the new policy assume clouddb, or would it work with a trove stand up?23:00
clarkbpleia2: that was it23:00
pleia2cool23:00
clarkbsdague: it will work with any DB setup, you just have to manage the DB outside of the etherpad module23:00
sdagueclarkb: ok23:00
clarkbsdague: for my test box on hpcloud I had another manifest that used puppet-mysql to create a local db server locally23:01
clarkbsdague: then you pass in credentials to etherpad_lite23:01
sdagueok, cool23:01
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clarkbit isn't able to setup DBs via trove automagically though23:01
pleia2jeblair: so, devstack gate the project and devstack gate the gate test are pretty conflated at this point, did you have any thoughts on how to resolve this? do we still call it all "devstack gate" even though nodepool is handling the pool?23:01
clarkbsdague: you should try export and import, those functions should work on the new server :)23:02
sdagueimporting text does a thing, which is kind of odd23:03
sdagueimporting html seems to crash23:03
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clarkb:/23:04
clarkbI wonder if that was why I got disconnected23:04
jeblairpleia2: the operation of devstack-gate tests (including to a small extent how nodepool is used to manage nodes that they need -- see nodepool for details) is a topic worthy of its own page on ci.o.o.  does that help?23:04
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sdagueI tried to export the qa one and reimport it here - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/icehouse-qa-session-planning223:04
pleia2jeblair: yes, thank you23:04
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clarkbsdague: did you export txt import txt?23:05
sdagueyeh23:05
sdaguethough I broke it with html23:05
pleia2jeblair: maybe a page about project gating in general? "we test lots of things before merging, like python over here on these static nodes, and devstack on this thing nodepool manages"23:05
sdagueotp, will try again in a sec23:05
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/gerritbot: Reconnect to IRC on send error  https://review.openstack.org/5018923:06
clarkbsdague: import sort of works for me. Export is probably more useful23:06
clarkbsdague: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/clarkb-test exported then imported to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/clarkb-test223:07
clarkbbetter than the old situation in any case23:07
jeblairpleia2: hrm; i'm less concerned with that than addressing the complexity around how devstack-gate tests work (multiple repos, the setup scripts, hook points, special nodes, nodes spun up from custom images, etc)23:07
pleia2jeblair: ok23:07
clarkbsdague: import from html doesn't work and doesn't spit out any errors in the error log :(23:08
clarkbeveryone feel free to hit that server and see if you can break it23:09
clarkbbut don't treat the data there as permanent :)23:09
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pleia2clarkb: when you have a stopping point with etherpad, could use your brain for a few minutes to get the tripleo stuff loaded in hiera23:21
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openstackgerritElizabeth Krumbach Joseph proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add basic nodepool documentation page  https://review.openstack.org/5019423:26
clarkbpleia2: now is fine23:26
pleia2clarkb: pm? email?23:27
pleia2maybe both!23:27
clarkbuh whatever we think is most prudent23:27
clarkbI can also do phone if that helps23:28
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Get rid of PyPI URL override in integration test  https://review.openstack.org/5019723:34
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Conditionally override PyPI for reqs integration  https://review.openstack.org/5019823:34
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Gate jeepyb and openstack/requirements on pbr  https://review.openstack.org/4125623:36
fungimordred: i think that ^ set of three changes may address jeblair's concerns on 41256 but we'll need to merge them in that order23:36
clarkbok new etherpad.o.o is ready as it is ever going to be. Hit it with a hammer and let us see how it does, but I would like to switch to it on Sunday (adding that to meeting agenda now)23:39
clarkbsdague: if you are still around, any news on the wsgi log app handling keystone, swift, and syslog?23:42
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Correct unattended upgrades origins assignment  https://review.openstack.org/4923523:43
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Disable the salt minion data cache on master  https://review.openstack.org/4923823:43
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Make the salt master also a minion  https://review.openstack.org/4924023:43
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sdagueclarkb: not yet, my intent is to get some time the end of this week to get that pulled together23:44
clarkbsdague: awesome23:44
sdaguehow critical is it? I was going to refactor this as a seperate project with unit tests in the process, though I could inplace hack it if yuo need it sooner23:44
clarkbsdague: it hasn't been super critical yet, but it means we aren't indexing any of those logs right now23:45
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