Monday, 2017-11-27

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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/horizon master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/52302606:25
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/horizon master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/52302607:18
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rdopieraback from vacation, did you miss me?08:05
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amotokirdopiera: welcome back :)08:27
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rdopieraamotoki: thanks for the changes to the config patch08:38
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rdopierawhat's the deal with theopenstack_auth08:51
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fnordahlrobcresswell: around?09:53
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amotokirdopiera: openstack_auth has been merged into the horizon tree.10:12
amotokirdopiera:  I summarized what we've done and need to do in the blueprint page last week. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/merge-openstack-auth10:12
rdopieraamotoki: awesome, thanks10:13
rdopierathat will affect packaging10:13
rdopierazigo: are you aware of that? ^^10:13
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amotokiI also added some topic on merge-openstack-auth to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Horizon (which was not discussed at the last meeting though)10:15
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rdopieraamotoki: maybe on the next meeting then :)10:17
amotokihehe :)  I cannot join it as usual. it's 5am for me.10:18
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rdopieraamotoki: we should really move the meeting, now that we don't have anyone from Australia10:35
rdopieraamotoki: Beth can't join it either10:35
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amotokirdopiera: I'd like to reply your comments in the ini-based config patch this week. I agree with you that we should not change our current config naming drastically, but I don't think it is a good idea to introduce literal options.12:02
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amotokirdopiera: I checked all attributes from django.conf.settings too and I believe I understand what our current configs are.12:04
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rdopieraamotoki: logging config is a big problem12:07
rdopieraamotoki: even though the logging module itself allows ini format, but that's not supported by django, and that format doesn't allow all the options we use12:08
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rdopierawe also have some settings that are pretty complex tables12:09
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rdopieralike lists of tuples of dicts12:17
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amotokirdopiera: totally agree that logging config is a big problem. IIRC, when I looked at the python docs, I see https://docs.python.org/2/library/logging.config.html#logging.config.fileConfig and I though we can provide some way to use an approach with logging.conf (which is usually used in other openstack projects).12:21
amotokiI think I need to recheck the possibility of this approach more.12:21
rdopierabut I think we need Literal much less now, with the newer Django12:22
amotokifor other options, i of course need to explore more concrete example. I see two cases: a dict of tuple (or a list of tuple) and more complex cases.12:23
amotokifor the former case, I think it is worth exploring a route like "<current_option_name>_<dict_key_name>" = True/False (or some). For example, "angular_panels".12:25
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rdopieraamotoki: I can give you some examples from the earlier versions of that patch12:25
amotokirdopiera: of course sure12:25
amotokirdopiera: I just looked through the current settings yesterday12:26
amotokirdopiera: let me prepare good examples12:27
rdopieraamotoki: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404735/30/openstack_dashboard/utils/config_django.py12:27
rdopieraamotoki: 'templates' and 'languages' here12:27
amotokirdopiera: yeah, I am looking at your patch set 4712:28
rdopieraalso websso_choices12:28
rdopieraespecially since they also need to be translated12:29
rdopieraI remember also stuff like image types12:29
rdopierafrom the openstack settings (that's not in that patch)12:29
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rdopieramost of those could be fixed either by post-processing the values or by changing the option itself to a saner format12:31
rdopierabut doing it all in a single patch is a suicide12:31
amotokiyes, too. there are two aspects in translations: default values and help text.12:32
rdopierapersonally I don't think configuration values should ever be translated12:33
rdopierabut apparently there is a use case for that and our users rely on it12:33
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amotokiI see these problems on translations. honestly I am thinking we can defer them compared to others.12:41
rdopierawe can do them as a post-processing step12:42
amotokii am trying to look into them more detail, but I haven't had enough time to dig into them. I think we can first explore an approach to support English only12:42
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rdopierain any case, I would like to propose to leave the Literal type in there just in case, but to have a policy of discouraging its use, and of gradually converting all the options that do use it to saner formats12:46
-amotoki- is leaving the channel today (though my irc bounder will keeps me in the channel)12:46
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openstackgerritBence Romsics proposed openstack/horizon master: Trunks panel: create button  https://review.openstack.org/46839613:06
openstackgerritBence Romsics proposed openstack/horizon master: Trunks panel: edit button  https://review.openstack.org/48547313:06
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openstackgerritBence Romsics proposed openstack/horizon master: Remove initScope from trunk delete.action.service  https://review.openstack.org/49353813:06
openstackgerritBence Romsics proposed openstack/horizon master: Trunks panel: enable project trunk panel by default  https://review.openstack.org/48918613:06
openstackgerritBence Romsics proposed openstack/horizon master: Trunks admin panel  https://review.openstack.org/51665713:06
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zigordopiera: I didn't know, I'm not sure it's such a good idea, but ok... :)13:40
zigoThanks a lot for letting me know.13:41
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rdopierazigo: I guess that will require some deps shuffling13:46
zigoI'm getting a weird error building manila-ui, I asked in #openstack-manila, and nobody can help. Here's the bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=88197713:46
openstackDebian bug 881977 in src:manila-ui "FTBFS: TypeError: 'str' object is not callable" [Serious,Open]13:46
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zigordopiera: Any idea?13:46
zigoThat's an older version of manila-ui, though building the new one does the same.13:46
rdopierazigo: looking13:47
rdopieraah, nose13:47
zigoOh, looks like you know ! :)13:47
rdopieraI don't, but *probably* using an older version of nose to run those tests will make it work13:48
zigordopiera: That's unfortunately not an acceptable in the context of packaging in Debian.13:48
zigo*answer13:49
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zigoI can try and check though, but the issue would still have to be fixed.13:49
rdopieraI don't remember if nose is till maintained13:50
rdopieraI think it's not13:50
zigoI believe that's correct.13:51
zigoIs there a way to use another test runner ?13:51
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zigordopiera: I'd love to use testr for all horizon things...13:52
rdopieraI think that pytest can handle at least some of nose's constructs13:52
zigorobcresswell: Hi there! I was wondering about your patch to use a .ini file instead of the .py, how is it going? Are you giving-up? Please don't, it'd be really awesome if we had that.13:52
rdopierabut they also use django-nose plugin, and I don't think there is an equivalent for that13:52
zigo:/13:53
rdopieraif it was up to me, I would switch all tests to pytest :)13:53
zigordopiera: Do you know what the problem is exactly with this stack trace?13:53
rdopieraI think that Victor was working on that across all of OpenStack at some point13:54
rdopieravstainer13:54
zigoRight, I know him well.13:54
zigoI'm very much fine with stestr.13:54
zigoThe ability to dump to SQL is quite nice.13:54
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rdopierazigo: the problem is that for some reason self.test.id is a string, when the code expects it to be a callable (most likely function). It most likely happens because a) they changed the api, or 2) something sets an id attribute on that object and overwrites the function13:55
rdopieralooking at blame for that file, that line didn't change in 11 years13:56
rdopieraso a) is unlikely13:56
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rdopierait's also possible that self.test is not the type they expected it to be13:58
rdopierazigo: what are the version of python-nose, python-django-nose and django in there?14:04
zigordopiera: nose: 1.3.7, django: 1.11.7, django-nose: 1.4.514:05
zigoie: all things from Debian Sid, which is where I upload things.14:05
rdopierazigo: what's interesting is that this error happens when it tries to report a different error14:07
rdopierazigo: so it's probably not even the actual error you are having14:07
zigo:/14:08
rdopierazigo: can you reproduce it? adding a settrace() in there and examining what self.test actually is might be helpful14:09
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zigordopiera: Here's the actual error with manila-ui 2.10.2: http://paste.openstack.org/show/627483/14:09
rdopieranote how all the code is inside nose/django/django-nose and not from manila or horizon14:12
rdopierawhich suggests it's some version incompatibility of the three14:12
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zigordopiera: Why is it stalled ? https://review.openstack.org/40473514:29
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rdopierazigo: it actually took off recently14:30
zigoMore than a year on this, I mean ... things should get moving at some point. We've waited too long for this feature, the local.py stuff is a nightmare for deployers.14:30
rdopierazigo: basically it's a rather big change, and nobody had the time to wrap their heads around it14:31
rdopieraplus, we don't want to produce an even worse nightmare14:31
zigoIt's still early in the Queens cycle, I'd say: just approve, and we got time to fix... :P14:31
zigoAlso, this would give enough time for ansible/pupper/salt people to fix their scripts.14:32
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rdopieraI don't even want to think about that14:33
zigordopiera: Just try to guess how weirdo code I had to write in shell script to parse the allowed_hosts field and pass it to debconf ... :P14:33
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rdopieraI just finished working on our dockerized downstream release for Pike14:33
rdopierazigo: why would you write code in bash in the first place14:33
zigordopiera: Because that's all you have available for writing maintainer's scripts in Debian, otherwise it forces a pre-depends which is very ugly.14:34
rdopierazigo: uglier than bash?14:34
zigoYeah.14:35
zigoAnd I'm not even doing bash.14:35
zigoISO shell, that is ! :)14:35
rdopierait's good to know that some people out there have it worse14:35
zigoThe actual code I'm talking about:14:37
zigohttps://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/openstack/services/horizon.git/tree/debian/openstack-dashboard.config14:37
zigohttps://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/openstack/services/horizon.git/tree/debian/openstack-dashboard.postinst (line 33 to 47)14:37
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rdopierazigo: that is going to break spectacularly14:49
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zigordopiera: I'm happy if local_settings.py -> horizon.ini breaks everything !!!14:50
zigoI'll be able to *clean* my code.14:50
rdopieramanage.py diffsettings doesn't help you, does it?14:51
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zigoI don't know what that is.14:59
* zigo waits for the CI to run and will try.14:59
rdopierait basicaly shows you the settings14:59
rdopieraloads the settings into django and shows the differences from django's defaults14:59
rdopieraof course they are still python's reprs15:00
rdopierathen again, I'm not sure parsing ini files is so much easier in bash, it's a pretty weird and underspecified format15:01
rdopieraand oslo.config adds its own quirks on top of it15:01
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zigordopiera: Sorry, got busy with kids / dinner / etc.19:41
rdopierano probs19:41
zigordopiera: The thing is, ini parsing is a done thing...19:41
zigoIt's not *that* easy, but doable.19:41
zigoPython parsing in bash...19:41
zigo... I don't want to even continue my sentence ! :)19:42
zigoFor ini files, I got something that is very slow, but works very well.19:42
zigoAnd I have ideas how to speed it up by an order of magnitude.19:42
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rdopierasure, it's great to have a common format for everything, you can focus on perfecting that then20:00
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