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| e0ne | amotoki: hi. are you around? | 10:32 |
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| ethfci | Hello e0ne | 10:50 |
| e0ne | ethfci: hi | 10:50 |
| ethfci | Have You had time to check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498018/ ? | 10:51 |
| e0ne | ethfci: no, I didn't test the latest version. I'm going to do it later today | 10:51 |
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| ethfci | Cool, thanks. I have contacted Jeremy Stanley to fix legacy-selenium-headless | 10:53 |
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| flwang1 | robcresswell: ping | 17:52 |
| flwang1 | ying_zuo: do you have a moment to discuss a performance issue? | 17:53 |
| ying_zuo | flwang1: yes | 17:54 |
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| flwang1 | ying_zuo: cool. now we're experiencing some performance issues of horizon. the typical one is instance panel loading is very slow | 17:55 |
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| flwang1 | sometimes take 8-10 secs | 17:55 |
| ying_zuo | with how many instances? | 17:55 |
| flwang1 | 65 | 17:56 |
| ying_zuo | alright. I was curious | 17:56 |
| flwang1 | but we do have a lot instances in DB, given we're a public cloud | 17:57 |
| ying_zuo | yes, the performance of instances panel is not good | 17:57 |
| ying_zuo | that's why the blueprint to angularize it is high priority https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/angularize-instances-table | 17:57 |
| flwang1 | and like one of our team members asked in this channel before, we found the allowed() method of instance actions taking some extra time, like 2-3 seconds, do you think it's reasonable? | 17:57 |
| ying_zuo | we have to do the checking to show/hide the actions though | 17:59 |
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| flwang1 | i see. so the main purpose of that blueprint is angularize those 'actions', right? | 17:59 |
| ying_zuo | no. the whole panel | 17:59 |
| ying_zuo | but unfortunately, nobody is working on it at the moment... | 17:59 |
| flwang1 | :( | 18:00 |
| ying_zuo | do you see a way to optimize the allowed method? | 18:00 |
| flwang1 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430029/3 that's one of our team members proposed before | 18:01 |
| flwang1 | we're trying to provide a config in settings to bypass all the check, and leave the decision to the service API server | 18:01 |
| flwang1 | that's not the best solution, but at least it can provide an option to the cloud ops/admin to improve the performance if that does really matter for them | 18:02 |
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| e0ne | flwang1: hi. do you have any profiler results or filed bug? | 18:05 |
| ying_zuo | so this is just for the checking for the launch instance action | 18:05 |
| e0ne | flwang1: I'm interesting in performance improvements too | 18:05 |
| ying_zuo | I wonder how much improvement this can make | 18:05 |
| flwang1 | e0ne: we did the test with the built in horizon profiling and i'm going to use the profiling tool of chrome | 18:06 |
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| e0ne | flwang1: it would be great if you share your results | 18:06 |
| david-lyle | ying_zuo, the cost of the quota API call essentially | 18:06 |
| ying_zuo | there are a lot of actions on instances panel and they all need checking so I think that's causing the performance issue for the panel | 18:06 |
| flwang1 | ying_zuo: yep, that's the patch proposed, but we're trying to use the idea to bypass all actions. hence why i want to discuss with you ;) | 18:06 |
| david-lyle | quota is the only one making an API call | 18:07 |
| flwang1 | quota is the only one | 18:07 |
| flwang1 | and the others are policy check | 18:07 |
| david-lyle | right, quota is a mess | 18:07 |
| flwang1 | but i think there is a "bug" in the policy check otherwise it shoudn't take 2-3 secs | 18:08 |
| e0ne | +1 | 18:08 |
| ying_zuo | cool. sounds like you already got a +2 from david-lyle for the direction :) | 18:08 |
| flwang1 | though for each instance there are 15+ actions, and horizon have 20 instances per page | 18:08 |
| e0ne | :) | 18:08 |
| ying_zuo | why was patch abandoned? | 18:08 |
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| flwang1 | i asked my team members the same question, but he forgot :D | 18:09 |
| flwang1 | so i'm here to get comments from you folks to see if that's the still the way we can go for now | 18:09 |
| flwang1 | especially given nobody taking the angularize blueprint | 18:10 |
| e0ne | ying_zuo: that patch disables all quotas checks via the config. I don't think it's a good way to fix performancce | 18:10 |
| flwang1 | david-lyle: are you happy with the idea adding a new config to bypass the check? | 18:10 |
| e0ne | flwang1, david-lyle: I'm not a core, but I'll vote -1 for it | 18:11 |
| flwang1 | and BTW, the quota check is making the login slow as well | 18:11 |
| flwang1 | e0ne: i'm listening... | 18:11 |
| ying_zuo | @e0ne probably not a long-term fix but I am okay with giving the user the options | 18:12 |
| david-lyle | just a sec on the phone | 18:12 |
| e0ne | once we'll introduce such option, we'll have move confused users, IMO | 18:13 |
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| e0ne | and than we'll have to follow deprecation policy to remove such option | 18:13 |
| e0ne | I would like to see profiler results firs, to understand what actual quotas code is slow | 18:14 |
| flwang1 | e0ne: TBH, i don't think follow deprecation policy is a problem | 18:14 |
| flwang1 | e0ne: as I mentioned above, not only the quota check, but the allowed() check | 18:14 |
| e0ne | flwang1: technically, it's not. but it's not user- or operators-friendly | 18:14 |
| e0ne | flwang1: that makes confusion bigger: OPENSTACK_BUTTON_QUOTA_CHECK name doesn't tell me anything about policies | 18:15 |
| flwang1 | let's say 10 - 30ms per check, 20+ actions per instance, so for each instance, it will take around 300ms | 18:16 |
| flwang1 | and we have 20 instance per page | 18:16 |
| flwang1 | above calculation is not accurate, but you got the idea | 18:17 |
| e0ne | flwang1: again, I would like to see profiler results first | 18:17 |
| e0ne | flwang1: maybe we can add some caching there and it will help us | 18:17 |
| flwang1 | 5ms per check * 20 actions * 20 instances = 2 sec | 18:18 |
| flwang1 | you even don't need a profiling | 18:19 |
| e0ne | flwang1: what exactly checks do you mean? | 18:19 |
| e0ne | I do agree that we've got performance issues | 18:19 |
| flwang1 | allowed() | 18:19 |
| e0ne | I don't agree that disabling checks is a good idea | 18:19 |
| e0ne | I need to take a look on the code and test it on my lab | 18:19 |
| flwang1 | e0ne: it would be great | 18:20 |
| e0ne | I can't say anything about this w/o profiling | 18:20 |
| e0ne | flwang1: I can do it on Wed only | 18:20 |
| flwang1 | that's ok, take your time | 18:20 |
| e0ne | flwang1: np. thanks for bringing this up | 18:21 |
| flwang1 | i know we always like a perfect solution ;) | 18:21 |
| flwang1 | but we do have some constricts | 18:21 |
| e0ne | :) | 18:22 |
| e0ne | +1 | 18:22 |
| flwang1 | and I don't think hide the 'Launch instnace' button on instance panel based on the quota is a good idea, for me, TBH, it's a like a over-engineering idea | 18:23 |
| flwang1 | because you never know the real-time quota status until you click the button | 18:24 |
| flwang1 | ying_zuo: ^ | 18:24 |
| flwang1 | because, though horizon can show the button based on the quota status when user load the page, but the user may take 1-3 mins on the pages to view or even delete some instances to release the quota. and some other users in the same tenant may create/delete instances as well. so I don't think the "pre-check quota" to decide if show the 'launch instance' button is reasonable. Please let me know if I missed something. | 18:27 |
| ying_zuo | flwang1: I think that's helpful. and we do that for other create actions too | 18:27 |
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| ying_zuo | I agree it can not be very accurate but if the user already used up the quota, it's helpful to disable the action so they don't need to find out after filling in all the info. | 18:28 |
| david-lyle | flwang1, I would be fine with removing the quota check on launch instance, the very next thing that happens when you open the dialog is a quota check anyway | 18:28 |
| david-lyle | there is not much lost in opening a dialog | 18:29 |
| david-lyle | I think only if the user doesn't have permission should the launch button be hidden on the table view | 18:29 |
| * e0ne needs to take a break to sleep. will read the conversation tomorrow | 18:29 | |
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| robcresswell | flwang: Come ooooon, you know better than to leave empty pings :p | 18:30 |
| robcresswell | What's up | 18:30 |
| ying_zuo | david-lyle: is it just for the launch instance modal, or the other create actions too? | 18:30 |
| david-lyle | I'm not a fan of the special case setting to disable though, that feels like a large band-aid for a more fundamental problem | 18:30 |
| david-lyle | ying_zuo, definitely for launch instance, not sure about the others | 18:31 |
| david-lyle | but given django's flow front loading a bunch of API calls is not ideal | 18:32 |
| ying_zuo | if the quota check is done when the modal is open, I think we should remove the additional quota check just to disable the button then especially when it's so costly. | 18:32 |
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| flwang1 | robcresswell: see above logs :) | 18:40 |
| flwang1 | robcresswell: sorry for another empty ping | 18:40 |
| robcresswell | flwang1: Yeah, my client was playing catchup for some reason | 18:40 |
| robcresswell | I dunno why that message only just went | 18:40 |
| robcresswell | Sorry about that | 18:41 |
| flwang1 | robcresswell: we're discussing this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430029/3 | 18:44 |
| flwang1 | and related performance issue | 18:45 |
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| robcresswell | Happy to fix the related issue | 18:45 |
| robcresswell | I dont like that fix though (for the same reasons in the previous comment) | 18:45 |
| flwang1 | I don't want to make the discussion lost focus, but another thing i'd like to see is when the image panel loads images, could we get a 'loading' icon somewhere? | 18:46 |
| flwang1 | robcresswell: no, i think the latest idea is totally remove the quota check for the launch instance button | 18:46 |
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| flwang1 | let me summarize the current topics: 1. could we just remove the quota check for 'launch instance' button 2. could we add a new config setting to bypass all policy checks for allowed() (actions of row) 3. could we add an icon somewhere when the image panel loading images, because it may take 3-5 seconds if there are too much images, which may confuse the user with an empty table. | 18:49 |
| flwang1 | above list are basically the questions I'd like to discuss today | 18:50 |
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| ying_zuo | my vote: 1) +1 if the quota check is done when the modal is open. 2) -1 we need the policy checks. 3) +1 please open a bug report | 18:56 |
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| robcresswell | flwang1: Yeah, loading is a trivial thing and we should do that anyway | 18:59 |
| flwang1 | ying_zuo: robcresswell: awesome, thanks for the feedback | 18:59 |
| robcresswell | I'm not a big fan of 2), its just a workaround again | 18:59 |
| flwang1 | robcresswell: like i said many times in this channel, this is my fav channel in openstack community | 19:00 |
| robcresswell | :D | 19:00 |
| flwang1 | robcresswell: i will provide more information about the #2, and will open a bug to track this | 19:00 |
| robcresswell | w/ regard to 1... I am not sure. It still feels like a heavy handed solution to backend code being slow. | 19:01 |
| flwang1 | a quick question for angularjs expert, is it possible to apply the policy check in js instead of in Django? | 19:01 |
| robcresswell | you'd need to rewrite the panel, tbh | 19:02 |
| flwang1 | robcresswell: :( i don't have the skill :( | 19:02 |
| flwang1 | i have to head to office, ttyl, this is the most <3 channel i have found in openstack | 19:03 |
| flwang1 | and Zaqar channel as well | 19:03 |
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| robcresswell | o/ have a good day | 19:03 |
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| flwang1 | robcresswell: ying_zuo: still around? i have question about the log of horizon | 20:35 |
| ying_zuo | yes | 20:35 |
| flwang1 | i'm trying to debug/profiling horizon, but i can't find how to enable a log for a particular plugin or code | 20:36 |
| flwang1 | for example, i'm trying to add a debug log at here https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/horizon/tables/actions.py#L131 | 20:36 |
| ying_zuo | debug mode is on right? | 20:37 |
| flwang1 | ying_zuo: i found the problem, though https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/openstack_dashboard/local/local_settings.py.example#L568 is using DEBUG, but https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/openstack_dashboard/local/local_settings.py.example#L555 is using INFO | 20:40 |
| flwang1 | but if https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/openstack_dashboard/local/local_settings.py.example#L555 is set to DEBUG, there will be too much logs | 20:40 |
| flwang1 | how can I only enable the DEBUG log of horizon but still keep the INFO for console handler? | 20:41 |
| ying_zuo | that's probably why. I have it set to DEBUG locally. | 20:41 |
| ying_zuo | I think you will need to set console as DEBUG too | 20:43 |
| flwang1 | but after enabling that, i saw a lot of error like this "VariableDoesNotExist: Failed lookup for key [is_table_action] in u'[{\'False\': False, \'None\': None, \'True\': True}, {\'x_trace_info\': \'{"X-Trace-HMAC": "" | 20:55 |
| flwang1 | any idea? | 20:55 |
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| ying_zuo | flwang1: I have it enabled but I don't have the error | 21:07 |
| flwang1 | ok, no problem. thanks. | 21:08 |
| ying_zuo | flwang1: I am seeing the errors now with master | 21:10 |
| flwang1 | ying_zuo: ah, nice | 21:10 |
| flwang1 | ying_zuo: and i'm going to show you something about the allowed method | 21:10 |
| ying_zuo | I think we need a bug report to look into these errors. flwang1, can you open one? | 21:13 |
| flwang1 | sure | 21:14 |
| ying_zuo | thanks | 21:14 |
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| ying_zuo | what about the allowed method? | 21:14 |
| flwang1 | i'm collecting the log, wait a moment | 21:16 |
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| flwang1 | ying_zuo: http://paste.openstack.org/show/622505/ | 21:21 |
| flwang1 | time unit is micro seconds | 21:22 |
| flwang1 | i'm trying to get an amount time | 21:22 |
| ying_zuo | looks like the time to check different policy rules can vary a lot. I wonder why that is. | 21:25 |
| ying_zuo | they should be in cache | 21:25 |
| flwang1 | for some of checks, the time is reasonable. i need to dig more and get the amount time | 21:30 |
| flwang1 | i expect the amount time less than 1 sec | 21:30 |
| flwang1 | if it's not, then it's a place we need to improve | 21:30 |
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| ying_zuo | agree | 21:32 |
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| david-lyle | cd .. | 21:38 |
| flwang1 | david-lyle: where are you now? then run rm -rf / | 21:38 |
| david-lyle | looking for the proper place to start deleting :) | 21:39 |
| flwang1 | good luck ;) | 21:40 |
| flwang1 | david-lyle: just double check, so are you happy if we totally remove the quota check for 'launch instance' button? | 21:40 |
| david-lyle | flwang1, that | 21:41 |
| david-lyle | 's good with me | 21:41 |
| flwang1 | david-lyle: awesome, thanks | 21:41 |
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| flwang1 | ying_zuo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1720893 I have opened a bug to track the weird error | 22:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1720893 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "VariableDoesNotExis error when enabling DEBUG logging" [Undecided,New] | 22:23 |
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| ying_zuo | thanks flwang1 | 22:28 |
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| flwang1 | ying_zuo: still around | 23:13 |
| flwang1 | ？ | 23:13 |
| ying_zuo | :) | 23:13 |
| flwang1 | you're a hard worker | 23:13 |
| flwang1 | i got some great progress about removing the quota check for 'launch instance' button | 23:14 |
| flwang1 | 1. for some reasons, the quota check/allowed of the launch instance button will be called 2 times | 23:14 |
| flwang1 | which takes about 0.14 seconds based on our prod env (prod API with local horizon) | 23:14 |
| flwang1 | 2. the launch instance form will do the quota check again, so user will not be able to create instance and wait resp from nova if the quota has been exceeded | 23:15 |
| flwang1 | ying_zuo: see https://ibb.co/kKm8Fb | 23:16 |
| flwang1 | because there is no available flavor can be used to meet current request | 23:17 |
| flwang1 | i'm going to file a bug to track this change now | 23:17 |
| ying_zuo | what change? | 23:18 |
| flwang1 | remove the quota check for 'launch instance' button | 23:18 |
| ying_zuo | I thought we have a bug for it? | 23:18 |
| ying_zuo | the one with abandoned patch | 23:19 |
| flwang1 | that one is trying to create a new config option | 23:19 |
| flwang1 | and it proposes changes for many tables | 23:19 |
| flwang1 | I don't want to pick up it, but create a new one to only track the change for 'launch instance' button | 23:20 |
| ying_zuo | do you have the link for that one? | 23:20 |
| flwang1 | yes, 1 sec | 23:20 |
| flwang1 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430029/3 | 23:20 |
| ying_zuo | the bug report seems pretty general | 23:22 |
| flwang1 | yep | 23:22 |
| flwang1 | i think we can do the similar change for volume create button | 23:22 |
| flwang1 | but I'm not sure if the image create panel does the quota check or not | 23:23 |
| ying_zuo | can you use this bug report for you changes? | 23:23 |
| flwang1 | yes, I can | 23:23 |
| flwang1 | i will add more info on that | 23:25 |
| ying_zuo | regarding the two points you mentioned earlier. 1) are both calls for checking if the button should be enabled? | 23:25 |
| flwang1 | if we can bypass the quota check, then the both calls doesn't really mater IMHO | 23:25 |
| ying_zuo | 2) it's not very obvious that all flavors have warning signs because the quota for instances is out | 23:26 |
| flwang1 | but I don't have much bandwidth to dig why | 23:26 |
| ying_zuo | bypass or remove? | 23:26 |
| flwang1 | bypass=remove, sorry | 23:27 |
| flwang1 | as for your 2) question, user will get another warning, let me show you, 1 sec | 23:27 |
| flwang1 | https://ibb.co/kor5Tw | 23:28 |
| ying_zuo | oh right | 23:28 |
| ying_zuo | cool | 23:28 |
| flwang1 | IMHO, that's a good warning than just disable the button | 23:28 |
| ying_zuo | yes | 23:29 |
| flwang1 | because user can get more information on the form | 23:29 |
| flwang1 | happy now? | 23:29 |
| flwang1 | I'm going to propose a patch and update the bug | 23:29 |
| ying_zuo | 👍 thanks | 23:29 |
| flwang1 | but I'd like to use separated patch to track different changes | 23:30 |
| flwang1 | e.g. one patch for the change on instance panel | 23:30 |
| flwang1 | and another patch for potential change for the volume panel | 23:30 |
| flwang1 | to get it being reviewed/merged easily | 23:30 |
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| ying_zuo | flwang1: I think that's fine. You can argue that the existing one is suggesting to make it configurable. | 23:55 |
| flwang1 | cool | 23:55 |
| flwang1 | ying_zuo: thanks for all your support | 23:56 |
| flwang1 | we(catalyst cloud) really care about the performance of Horizon, so pls expect more noisy from us | 23:56 |
| ying_zuo | haha | 23:57 |
| ying_zuo | sounds good :) | 23:58 |
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