Tuesday, 2016-04-19

kfox1111but it would be better to share the code properly rather then forking like that.00:00
david-lyleideally all toolkit pieces would be separate from horizon, django stuff too00:00
kfox1111yeah. that would be nice.00:01
david-lylebig lift though to get there00:01
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kfox1111yeah. I think doing just a bit of the angular stuff might not be too bad. the xstatic stuff makes that pretty seamless.00:01
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kfox1111I did hte same thing with the app-catalog-ui plugin. seperated the angular bits into app-catalog-common and pulled it back in with xstatic. wasn't very difficult.00:02
david-lylethe tangling of our mess is more complete, I'm quite certain00:03
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kfox1111well, the magicsearch and table widgets are pretty standalone. I was able to seperate those for sure. :)00:03
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kfox1111might just start there and see what else is then easily seperable.00:04
david-lylekfox1111: probably. There is also pushback on soooooooo many xstatic packages00:04
david-lyleseem creating 30+ packages for horizon is frowned upon by distros :)00:04
kfox1111yeah, I get that.00:04
kfox1111but forking the code between app-catalog and horizon is probably frowned apon by them more. :)00:05
kfox1111they really hate forks. :)00:05
david-lylewhat they don't know ...00:05
david-lyleI agree00:05
kfox1111well, we can talk about it more at the summit.00:06
david-lylesure00:06
kfox1111Thanks. :)00:06
kfox1111oh. and dynamic xstatic too. :)00:06
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kfox1111tripped against that with the app-catalog-common xstatic package.00:07
r1chardj0n3smore talking about xstatic at the summit! YES!00:07
kfox1111app-catalog-ui depends on app-catalog-common but there's no way to tell horizon to load the extra package.00:07
* kfox1111 chuckles00:07
r1chardj0n3s</sarcasm>00:07
kfox1111I fudged a workaround but only one plugin can do the workaround at a time. so really less then ideal.00:07
david-lylekfox1111: you and hurgleburgler should talk00:08
kfox1111k00:08
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hurgleburgler:-O00:34
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openstackgerritShan Guo proposed openstack/horizon: Refactor openstack_dashboard tabs.py code  https://review.openstack.org/30753301:54
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/django_openstack_auth: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/30517703:18
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openstackgerritAnkur proposed openstack/horizon: [WIP] Implement Manage Attachments in Instances  https://review.openstack.org/30547903:58
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/horizon: Fix doc build if git is absent  https://review.openstack.org/30502106:33
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/horizon: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/30760207:09
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/horizon: [WIP] Testing latest u-c  https://review.openstack.org/30342908:10
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openstackgerritMarcos Fermín Lobo proposed openstack/horizon: No hostname validation in launch instance angularjs panel  https://review.openstack.org/24414508:40
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openstackgerritSergei Chipiga proposed openstack/horizon: Check that row is defined when wait cell status  https://review.openstack.org/30766709:20
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mrungerobcresswell, good morning, I just checked in launchpad, don't we "release" there any more?09:27
mrungelast "release" was mitaka-rc1?09:27
mrungewith matching bugs and blueprints targeted there09:27
robcresswellOh, I may have overlooked updating something09:28
robcresswellmrunge: It doesnt look like we've been adding milestones past RC for a long time09:29
robcresswellHmm, wait there is Liberty just no Mitaka09:30
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mrungerobcresswell, it might be the case either david or I created that manually09:33
mrungenot sure if we should continue that09:33
mrungeis there a value in?09:34
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robcresswellCurrently the last listed release and download on LP is Liberty09:34
mrungeyes, or does it just mean, everything depending on launchpad won't get any newer than liberty?09:35
robcresswellWe have tags and milestones for Newton for tracking09:35
robcresswellfor bugs/ bps etc09:35
robcresswellBut LP hasn't been used for releasing for a while now, I thought09:35
mrungemilestones and releases are different09:36
mrungeand a "release" will just inherit all milestones and will close then blueprints etc09:36
robcresswellAs I understood it, you define a milestone and release it whenever?09:36
mrungeat the end, you're able to see what's implemented in a release09:37
mrungeyes, that's acurate, iirc09:37
robcresswellBut yes, the last milestone listed for Mitaka was RC109:37
robcresswellThere is no 9.0.0 release09:38
robcresswellmrunge: I'll ask david about it later. I think he should have done it at the end of Mitaka, but may have forgotten. Not entirely clear to me whose responsibility that is now.09:40
mrungerobcresswell, at the end it falls back to your plate09:40
robcresswellYes :)09:41
robcresswellI'll go ask in the release channel.09:42
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openstackgerritYury Tregubov proposed openstack/horizon: Added test remove protected image  https://review.openstack.org/28123509:45
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openstackgerritRob Cresswell proposed openstack/horizon: Use breadcrumb nav across Horizon  https://review.openstack.org/28442109:47
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openstackgerritRob Cresswell proposed openstack/horizon: Use breadcrumb nav across Horizon  https://review.openstack.org/28442109:55
openstackgerritRob Cresswell proposed openstack/horizon: Improve Source step volume selection in LI  https://review.openstack.org/30414009:56
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openstackgerritYury Tregubov proposed openstack/horizon: Added test remove protected image  https://review.openstack.org/28123510:05
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robcresswelltsufiev: I can't recall if I linked you to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306769/ but it seems like the type of patch you may like :)10:25
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openstackgerritLIU Yulong proposed openstack/horizon: Add floating IP panel to admin dashboard  https://review.openstack.org/14362810:28
openstackgerritMerged openstack/horizon: Added tests for check RC files from API Access page  https://review.openstack.org/26805610:29
openstackgerritMerged openstack/horizon: Add test for volumes attach/detach  https://review.openstack.org/27523110:29
openstackgerritMerged openstack/horizon: Remove redundant line to open login page  https://review.openstack.org/30668610:32
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tsufievrobcresswell, sure, I do like it :)10:42
tsufievwas going to look inside this week10:42
robcresswellIt flags some interesting results. Like the sidebar takes a weirdly long time to load; something like 200 - 400ms per request, even with caching.10:43
robcresswellSame with tables; even very small tables have long render times. I think we need to reduce the logic in these templates.10:44
robcresswellIf we do that and also look into Jquery table polling, I think we could make scale handling in instances etc much more manageable.10:45
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tsufievyeah, that would be really nice10:47
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openstackgerritTimur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: Provide integration test for managing a project's members  https://review.openstack.org/16893510:53
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openstackgerritRob Cresswell proposed openstack/horizon: Revert "Angular vs. Django Table Danger Button Inconsistency"  https://review.openstack.org/30771111:04
openstackgerritRob Cresswell proposed openstack/horizon: Revert "Angular vs. Django Table Danger Button Inconsistency"  https://review.openstack.org/30771111:05
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openstackgerritTimur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: [WIP] Glance images async upload  https://review.openstack.org/23043411:59
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openstackgerritMarcos Fermín Lobo proposed openstack/horizon: No hostname validation in launch instance angularjs panel  https://review.openstack.org/24414512:04
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openstackgerritKenji Ishii proposed openstack/horizon: Remove unnecesarry files on Create Network  https://review.openstack.org/30709912:43
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openstackgerritTimur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: Added test for check stacks creation and deletion functionality  https://review.openstack.org/26636812:51
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mflobohi all, do you know if there is a recent mistral demo video? What I found is from 2014 (mistral-0.1 version)13:13
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robcresswellmflobo: Try #openstack-mistral13:24
robcresswell:)13:25
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mfloboyeah, sorry, I explained poorly, I was asking about mistral-ui demo for Horizon. I remember some video, but I can not find anything. Anyhow, I'll ask to #openstack-mistral too. Thanks13:27
openstackgerritRob Cresswell proposed openstack/horizon: Fix incorrect breadcrumb on Admin > Details  https://review.openstack.org/29696413:30
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robcresswellmflobo: I'm not aware of any I'm afraid13:31
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openstackgerritYury Tregubov proposed openstack/horizon: Added test for flavor metadata update  https://review.openstack.org/29386013:33
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: We have recovered one of our cloud providers, but there is a huge backlog of jobs to process. Please have patience until your jobs are processed13:39
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tsufievmflobo, did you mean Mistral Workbook Builder UI demo?13:45
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mfloboI guess that is the fullname :)13:45
tsufievmflobo, the repo is at https://github.com/openstack/merlin/tree/master/extensions/mistral but I don't think anybody is currently working on it13:46
tsufievI was driving it mostly, but the project didn't get enough traction to continue investing time into it13:47
mflobotsufiev, any reason?13:47
mfloboI see13:47
mfloboos, I guess there is no official mistral-ui, right?13:48
tsufievmflobo, https://github.com/openstack/mistral-dashboard13:48
openstackgerritYury Tregubov proposed openstack/horizon: Added test for flavor metadata update  https://review.openstack.org/29386013:48
mflobotsufiev, oh, great, thanks13:49
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robcresswellmrunge: The release time has spoken! No need for any formal "release" on LP. So we can just use the milestones for our internal tracking.13:51
robcresswellMainly because its useful to build a priorities list.13:51
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mrungerobcresswell, ack, thanks for clarifying that14:24
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lcastellmorning all o/14:47
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openstackgerritEric Peterson proposed openstack/horizon: Add router L3 agent info to info page  https://review.openstack.org/30661914:48
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robcresswellmorning14:52
openstackgerritMatthias Runge proposed openstack/horizon: No lock required for reading secret key  https://review.openstack.org/30785914:56
openstackgerritTimur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: Integration test for New Launch Instance wizard  https://review.openstack.org/29727714:57
lcastellin case you have some spare time :-) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304693/ any feedback is welcome15:00
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tsufievlcastell, it's a highly competitive area (https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/horizon-integration-tests-coverage+status:open) :)15:05
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mrungerobcresswell, may I ask you over to #openstack-meeting-3? Stable meeting?15:07
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lcastellyeah tsufiev :-), and it looks like there's still plenty of work to do there15:08
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ducttape_something is messed up with my collect static etc.  getting no css love, even after removing all my pyc files, re-run collect static.... did I miss a memo ?  :\15:09
mrungeducttape_, maybe you need to remove py[oc] files?15:10
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robcresswellmrunge: I joined15:13
mrungethank you robcresswell15:13
mrungeit will be at the end of the meeting though15:14
mrungeI'll ping you then again15:14
ducttape_thanks mrunge, I had some minor diffs with local_settings and now stuff works for me.... I can't explain what was going on, but it works now ;)15:14
mrungeducttape_, glad you solved it15:14
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* mrunge doesn't like if something just changes status without understanding "why"15:15
ducttape_me too, I don't like not being able to explain it ;)15:16
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ducttape_mrunge: it seems to occur when I switch my cache to be django.core.cache.backends.memcached.MemcachedCache, instead of the default...  just switching that causes my issue15:18
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ducttape_david-lyle: don't you use memcached  for work ?15:20
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ducttape_hmm, memcached restart fixed it.  whatever15:27
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openstackgerritTimur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: Make configurable the default date range used on Overview panel  https://review.openstack.org/23820415:30
openstackgerritSergei Chipiga proposed openstack/horizon: Attach test logs individually for each test  https://review.openstack.org/30788015:31
openstackgerritSergei Chipiga proposed openstack/horizon: Attach test logs individually for each test  https://review.openstack.org/30788015:32
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tsufievhttps://twitter.com/stelian/status/720913927639560194 OMGWTFLOL15:38
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mrungetsufiev, *evil grin*, did you ever work for a government?15:40
mrungetsufiev, I totally get, it's not your UI15:40
mrungebut, I've seen comparable stuff in governmental apps15:41
ankur-gupta-f1tsufiev: pure evil whoever did those15:41
tsufievmrunge, nope, I didn't15:42
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tsufievcomments are especially funny15:43
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ediardoI wonder if they used loop to populate that or  entered each option line by line16:02
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ducttape_robcresswell - something perhaps for next meeting or summit talk - horizon uses limits for a lot of usage information pages.   It would be nice to move to quotas.   Limits are like a grizzly approximation for what quotas provide.  The code for this is kind of a mess, not sure who would care about this stuff.16:07
david-lyleducttape_: with microversions the extensions part went away in nova correct?16:07
ducttape_quotas are new hotness, and we don't really use them.  (new hotness being something like 3 or 4 years old)16:07
david-lylethe reason we moved before was that quotas was an optional extension16:08
ducttape_I'm not sure, but I know hp moved back to using limits for public cloud for horizon16:08
david-lyleI believe you did most of that work :P16:08
ducttape_but that seems like less of a concern at this point16:08
ducttape_yes, which is part of why I hate it with the fire of 1000 suns16:08
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ducttape_anywho, it's a mess, and doesn't really provide everything we need at least16:09
ducttape_I'm not looking forward to the vision quest which is re-writting this stuff16:09
david-lyleducttape_: sure, we have to start fighting microversions anyway16:10
david-lyleI don't think openstack wants a UI TBH16:10
ducttape_do you have more background on that ?16:10
david-lylemicroversions?16:10
ducttape_yeah16:10
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david-lyleparts of the API are supported in particular microversions16:11
david-lylethe fun part is that breaking backward compatibility is OK in microversions16:11
ducttape_I've also seen the discussion on where openstack releases were completely independent pieces etc...   not sure openstack wants any collection of software that works16:11
david-lyleso version 1.2.3 may work, but 1.2.4 may not16:11
david-lyleso your choice is to know this a call 1.2.3 for certain calls and 1.2.4 for others16:12
david-lyleducttape_: you've hit it on the head16:12
ducttape_this rates pretty high on my list of terrible ideas16:12
david-lylethe kit mentality is lazy16:12
david-lyleand pushes all the hard work on you16:12
ducttape_clearly the people with this idea have never tried to use / deploy openstack16:12
david-lyle:)16:13
sjmc7we’re also struggling with the same thing :)16:13
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sjmc7as, presumably, will any service that interacts with another16:13
ducttape_this is kind of the point of creating an api layer, to have something you could depend upon16:14
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david-lyledepend is a strong word, maybe have strong superstitions about ?16:14
ducttape_if I wanted software stack that may or may not work, I'm not sure why have QA / gate jobs..... why have reviews..... why do any of the work to enforce any level of quality16:16
ducttape_it's like subjective art16:16
ducttape_anywho, I'm going to pretend like this idea doesn't exist on start looking at the don quixote task of rewriting quotas16:17
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david-lylewell it maintains devstack, and that's all you really need16:17
david-lyle:(16:18
ducttape_devstack might be the worst thing that ever happened to openstack, because it gives a place where you can hire developers in complete isolation16:18
* ducttape_ is in a dark place atm16:19
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openstackgerritJuan Pablo lopez Gutierrez proposed openstack/horizon: Security group add/delete rules integration tests  https://review.openstack.org/30652616:22
david-lyleducttape_: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/086459.html re:microversions16:22
ducttape_thanks for cheering me up  ;)16:23
david-lylehappy to share the joy where I can16:24
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robcresswelldavid-lyle, ducttape_: Did Nova adopt semver without actually using semver?16:31
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david-lylerobcresswell: they don't use semver for microversions16:31
robcresswellJust a thing that looks like it16:32
robcresswell"more complicated from development16:32
robcresswellperspective which leads to slow down the evolution of API changes."16:32
ducttape_poor them16:32
robcresswellSounds like openstack :D16:32
ducttape_yes, if only developers could break everything more quickly - that is really what is needed16:33
ducttape_:P16:33
robcresswellhaha this is a strange thread. I don't know much about Novas versioning, but it looks like a semver structure without any of the semver guarantees16:33
david-lyleducttape_: you should really know what version to pin all your API calls to16:33
david-lyledoesn't everyone?16:34
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ducttape_so we have 15 openstack projects, and I need to coordinate all their interdependancies on what apis they need16:34
david-lyleducttape_: who else would do it ?16:35
david-lyle:(16:35
ducttape_and we don't want developers to be burdened with this type of work16:35
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david-lyleducttape_: again, it's just a kit, if you're crazy enough, you can build a cloud16:36
david-lylethat should be the new mission statement16:36
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robcresswellWe need an openstack-grumpy irc channel.16:36
* robcresswell ducks16:37
ducttape_we already have that, it's the operators channel robcresswell16:37
robcresswellah, makes sense16:37
ducttape_this room is the land of sunshine, puppy dogs, and ice cream16:37
robcresswell:(16:38
med_#openstack-grumpy? I thought that was called "#openstack" or "#openstack-dev"16:39
ducttape_robcresswell - don't be sad, this is normal give and take.   developers come up with half baked idea, and others push back on it.   it's normal  ;)16:39
* med_ needs the "it's just a kit" with an openstack logo at the top and legos at the bottom shirt....16:40
david-lylemed_ sign me up for one16:42
ducttape_I think I found nova!   http://www.wearethepractitioners.com/images/default-source/blog-content-images/lego-mess.jpg   It's in there, keep looking!16:42
david-lyleLOL16:43
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med_oh that's definitely nova.16:46
med_mostly in the big green "bin"16:46
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tsufievjudging by completely unrelated py27/py34 and selenium-headless failures at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307667/ we're broken again by some external dependency17:11
tsufievdoes anyone know the details?17:12
itxakalooks like novclient? novaclient.v2 import volume_snapshots as vol_snaps17:14
tsufievyeah, seems so17:14
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itxakawoah17:15
itxaka,python-novaclient==4.0.017:15
itxakaI got 3.4.0 locally17:15
itxakaon requirements: python-novaclient!=2.33.0,>=2.29.0 # Apache-2.017:15
david-lyleyeah https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/tree/4.0.0/novaclient/v217:16
david-lyleremoved volume_snapshots17:16
* tsufiev filing a bug17:16
tsufievhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/157224617:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1572246 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Horizon gate is blocked after python-novaclient==4.0.0 release" [Critical,New]17:17
itxakatsufiev++17:17
david-lyletsufiev: are you on this, or do you want me to?17:17
tsufievdavid-lyle, I don't mind if someone takes this17:18
tsufievhad other plans for the evening :)17:18
david-lyletsufiev: just didn't want to step on your toes :)17:18
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openstackgerritMatt Borland proposed openstack/horizon: Images tables uses action promises  https://review.openstack.org/29184617:44
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openstackgerritSergei Chipiga proposed openstack/horizon: Attach test logs individually for each test  https://review.openstack.org/30788018:30
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openstackgerritMatt Borland proposed openstack/horizon: Move magic-search bar out of the smart-table structure  https://review.openstack.org/29729118:58
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openstackgerritAnkur proposed openstack/horizon: Implement Manage Attachments in Instances  https://review.openstack.org/30547919:01
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openstackgerritDavid Lyle proposed openstack/horizon: Fix tests broken by novaclient 4.0.0 release  https://review.openstack.org/30802520:39
david-lyleThat should fix the check and gate runs ^^^^^^^^^^^20:39
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openstackgerritDiana Whitten proposed openstack/horizon: Many dropdown actions are white text on white background  https://review.openstack.org/30807423:37
r1chardj0n3swelp. someone has committed something to Horizon master that's broken the swift ui action buttons :/23:40
r1chardj0n3srendering is broken. onclick is broken.23:41
r1chardj0n3s\o/23:41
david-lyle_yay testing23:41
r1chardj0n3sI think someone's disabled the click-through protection...23:41
r1chardj0n3s(also)23:41
david-lyle_r1chardj0n3s: it was a good run23:42
r1chardj0n3sya23:42
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