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| jayahn | srwilkers: have you look at prometheus operator? | 00:38 |
| srwilkers | jayahn: yep. drafted some charts for it about 6 months back, but we decided to not pursue it | 00:38 |
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| jayahn | any specific reason back then? | 00:46 |
| srwilkers | yep. felt it obfuscated too much from an operator in terms of what it's doing and how it's configuring scrape jobs | 00:46 |
| srwilkers | but honestly, all it's doing is using the built-in kubernetes service discovery mechanisms for configuring the jobs via service annotations | 00:47 |
| srwilkers | which is how we're handling the exporter configurations in prometheus in the current chart | 00:47 |
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| jayahn | srwilkers: thanks for the information. :) | 00:49 |
| srwilkers | no problem dude :) | 00:49 |
| srwilkers | it's a pretty cool thing to play around with for demos and for quick and dirty monitoring on a development environment. i have a few instances running at home | 00:49 |
| jayahn | in additon, when we have some spare time, we are thinking to look at https://github.com/rook/rook | 00:50 |
| srwilkers | but it's not something id back 100% for anything long-term | 00:50 |
| srwilkers | yeah, ive had a few people ask about rook | 00:50 |
| jayahn | seems interesting managing ceph on kubernetes, but need to see. | 00:50 |
| srwilkers | i honestly dont know enough about ceph to cast any informed opinion | 00:50 |
| jayahn | me neither. i will share if we test anything with it in near future. | 00:51 |
| srwilkers | jayahn: awesome | 00:51 |
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| SamYaple | portdirect: why apache over nginx? | 18:59 |
| SamYaple | portdirect: also, why apache wsgi over uwsgi socket? (uwsgi is how its tested upstream i believe) | 19:00 |
| SamYaple | portdirect: i ask because something like glance *cannot* follow that pattern. like at all. it has to use uwsgi for chunking reasons | 19:02 |
| portdirect | SamYaple: re apache - This is whats available upstream in the kolla images, so our hands are somewhat tied | 19:03 |
| portdirect | Also this is the same method used in the gates/devstack i believe, though will need to double check | 19:03 |
| SamYaple | hmmm. fair enough, unless you run a "sidecar" with nginx/apache which is what im purposing | 19:03 |
| SamYaple | that would work even with kolla images for the nova code | 19:03 |
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| SamYaple | so rabbitmq 3.7.0 has a file store *per* vhost | 20:59 |
| SamYaple | that removes any advantage to exploding out a rabbitmq cluster per service in my mind | 20:59 |
| alanmeadows | SamYaple: isn't that only true if you trust rabbitmq's ability to scale using that approach in the first place? | 21:04 |
| SamYaple | alanmeadows: listen you | 21:04 |
| alanmeadows | Perhaps I've been soured, but I am skeptical | 21:04 |
| SamYaple | actually i have a long standing item on my list to help alot with that | 21:05 |
| SamYaple | basically only one host is "master" of a queue,and if you hit a slave, then it behind the scenes redirects to the master and then returns | 21:05 |
| SamYaple | making scaling east-west... hard | 21:05 |
| SamYaple | but you canknow which is master and if the oslo.messaging hooks into that knowledge, then all hosts cantalk directly to the owner of that queue | 21:06 |
| SamYaple | helps alot with scaling | 21:06 |
| SamYaple | (and then you dont really care about mirroring all queues to all hosts, just having n number of copies) | 21:06 |
| alanmeadows | What if that queue is notifications? :) | 21:06 |
| SamYaple | well yea then youre screwed | 21:07 |
| SamYaple | but notifications is non-service impacting | 21:07 |
| SamYaple | it can break on notifications queue and not breakthe service | 21:07 |
| SamYaple | it just breaks the stuff you want to send:) | 21:07 |
| * alanmeadows slowly sips his coffee. | 21:07 | |
| SamYaple | of course you can have a notifications queue per service too. but that breaks ceilometer i think | 21:07 |
| SamYaple | one issue at a time meadows! | 21:08 |
| alanmeadows | #fixitall | 21:08 |
| SamYaple | exploding rabbitmq cluster per service wont fix that anyway. and thats the issue i was talking about | 21:09 |
| SamYaple | jeez youre like my wife. all problems are somehow related | 21:09 |
| alanmeadows | And you never clean the sink | 21:09 |
| SamYaple | if by the 'clean the sink' you mean taking a shower, then youre right. im a remote worker not entirely by choice | 21:10 |
| alanmeadows | I do hear the point, although, I would of said ceilometer should orbit around me and update support tapping/consuming from N clusters to listen | 21:11 |
| alanmeadows | but I think one of the main goals with supporting infra per service is valuable as a mechanism to easily tap when other scaling avenues have been exhausted | 21:11 |
| alanmeadows | It may not work for every infrastructure service | 21:11 |
| SamYaple | i mean with the purposed not-mirroring-every-queue-to-every-host you should be able toscale notifications very far too | 21:11 |
| SamYaple | rabbitmq has change *alot* to support the openstack use case, but we as openstack dont always change to support rabbitmq | 21:12 |
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