Monday, 2017-07-31

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openstackgerritRenis Makadia proposed openstack/openstack-helm master: WIP: Add Helm Chart for Designate  https://review.openstack.org/46998103:15
openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/openstack-helm master: WIP: Loopback device support  https://review.openstack.org/48498203:24
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openstackgerritRenis Makadia proposed openstack/openstack-helm master: WIP: Add Helm Chart for Designate  https://review.openstack.org/46998107:30
openstackgerritRenis Makadia proposed openstack/openstack-helm master: WIP: Add Helm Chart for Designate  https://review.openstack.org/46998108:08
openstackgerritRenis Makadia proposed openstack/openstack-helm master: WIP: Add Helm Chart for Designate  https://review.openstack.org/46998108:09
openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/openstack-helm-addons master: Update ElasticSearch and Kibana to 5.4.2  https://review.openstack.org/48705108:27
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openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/openstack-helm master: Ingress: add default backend  https://review.openstack.org/48754413:09
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v1k0d3nhey @srwilkers, is OSH going to have an icon before the PTG (an Albatross was discussed at one point)?13:45
osh-chatbot3<leeuwenrjj> Hello, 2 newbie question: 1) How do we make sure writes are only going to one of the 3 mariadb nodes?  (because of select for update issues with writing to multiple nodes)13:46
osh-chatbot3<leeuwenrjj> 2) How do you make the ingress rules respond on the fqdn instead of the shortname e.g. ingress responds to keystone or keystone.openstack but no other hostnames  (or how are people making it work with shortnames only)13:46
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osh-chatbot3<leeuwenrjj> e.g. it looks like it needs some modifications to the ingress template to support that but I could miss something obvious13:50
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osh-chatbot3<portdirect> @leeuwenrjj curently to support fqdn resolution of names via the ingress controllerwould require some modification14:39
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osh-chatbot3<portdirect> I have a ps locally that I'm hoping to get in today that does that - along with optionally creating dummy interfaces and ips for services.14:40
osh-chatbot3<portdirect> re the mariadb - issue - this is being worked on by @srwilkers atm - the current implementation is far from ideal14:41
osh-chatbot3<portdirect> we should be using prozysql to improve this - though if you are running high volumes of queries today I'd recommend modifying the service to attach to a single pod in the galera cluster as a short term fix14:42
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openstackgerritTim Heyer proposed openstack/openstack-helm master: Armada OpenStack deployment yaml  https://review.openstack.org/48123415:03
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openstackgerritTim Heyer proposed openstack/openstack-helm master: Armada OpenStack deployment yaml  https://review.openstack.org/48123415:08
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openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/openstack-helm master: WIP -- Add proxysql to mariadb  https://review.openstack.org/48758815:22
openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/openstack-helm master: Gate: Loopback device support  https://review.openstack.org/48498215:24
openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/openstack-helm master: Gate: Loopback device support  https://review.openstack.org/48498215:25
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openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/openstack-helm master: Gate: Loopback device support  https://review.openstack.org/48498215:34
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jayahnhi15:40
lrensingo/15:40
portdirectsup jayahn15:40
jayahndoes anyone know galera issue? if all the nodes in the clustr is gone, then you cannot automatically restore the cluster.15:41
portdirectyes :(15:41
jayahnit is not container-specific one. we had the same problem before15:41
jayahnany plan? do we need to write a galera-operator? :)15:42
portdirectgetting galera up after a total outage can be fun (meaning no fun at all)15:42
jayahni know.15:42
portdirectits possible - though I think we should be able to distribute much of the logic out to the pods themselves15:43
jayahnprobably, long term, we should develop a kubernetes operator for this.15:43
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portdirectSamYaple you have any input here? (I'm not opposed to an operator - though would want to keep it as 'light' as possible)15:44
jayahnprobably a extra discussion on PTG. :)15:45
SamYaplereading scrollback15:45
openstackgerritTim Heyer proposed openstack/openstack-helm master: Armada OpenStack deployment yaml  https://review.openstack.org/48123415:46
jayahnanyway, do you guys have a hands-on workshop proposal for the summit this time as well?15:46
SamYaplejayahn: so that is actually not true. there are 7 different failure conditions for a galera cluster, and all can be automatically recovered from *if* there is no dataloss15:47
jayahnSamYaple: hi :)15:47
SamYapleunfortunately, we would need an operator of some sort to make that work15:47
SamYaplejayahn: hi15:47
SamYapleit doesnt have to be an operator.... but it would need to be extranal api or similiar15:47
jayahnyeap. some external one15:47
SamYaplebasically the node coming up needs a way to question the other nodes, whether they are up or not15:48
SamYaplethat said, we can do some single node trickery to recover from like 80% of outages15:48
SamYaplebasically if gvwstate.dat file exists, start up the container and everything iwll be fine15:48
jayahnhm.. okay.15:49
SamYaplei have a bunch of stuff for this, but didnt have time to keep up with kubernetes15:49
jayahnis there any good reference documents on "there are 7 different failure conditions for a galera cluster, and all can be automatically recovered"?15:49
portdirectSamYaple: a copy of your working notes would be greatly appreated15:49
SamYaplei can detail the steps needed to recover for discussion at the PTG15:49
jayahnso that we can put our own effort on this for a bit.15:49
jayahnokay, that would be great.15:50
SamYaplejayahn: probably not. to figure out how glaera worked i had to swim in the source code15:50
SamYapledocumentation is poor and bad15:50
jayahnjust one thing, I need to attend that PTG. ;)15:50
SamYaplehaha15:50
openstackgerritHuamin Chen proposed openstack/openstack-helm master: fix BUG 1707670: randomize cleaner job  https://review.openstack.org/48926115:50
openstackbug 1707670 in openstack-helm "failed to clean ceph package: Error: jobs.batch "ceph-namespace-client-key-cleaner" already exists" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/170767015:50
jayahnyeap.. got it. I like swimming.15:50
jayahnat least, one of our devs will be there to talk with you. :)15:51
openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/openstack-helm master: WIP -- Add proxysql to mariadb  https://review.openstack.org/48758815:52
SamYaplejayahn: it should intrest you to note that better automatic recovery is on the galera roadmap and is actively being worked on15:53
jayahnSamYaple: I like "actively" part15:54
jayahnIt is one of our ops main requests; if you say your way is so improved one, pls improve galera auto recovery once for all. :)15:55
SamYaplejayahn: i refuse!15:55
SamYaplefor a very good reason though15:56
SamYaplethis isn't possible without outside orchestration15:56
SamYapleso either we bake that into galera by adding in etcd or something, or galera doesnt have all teh auto-recovery stuff15:56
SamYapleso right now, if your cluster suffers from a 100% full power outage, you can just `service mysql start` all the nodes and the cluster will reform. magic!15:57
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SamYaplebut if even one of those nodes that was in the previously existing cluster stays down, the cluster wont reform15:57
SamYaplethis is all outside info that would be very hard to let non-orchestration tools know about in my opinion15:57
jayahnyeap, ture. so we know this is not a problem we can solve with openstack-helm. :) but, our homework to come up with better way working with ops.15:59
SamYaplejayahn: not true! we can solve it with helm via k8s16:00
SamYapleat least mostly16:00
SamYapleif you have dataloss, then no we cant solve it16:00
SamYaplei need a mechanism for one node to query the other nodes in the cluster. i need to know if grastate.dat exists (and if it does, what is the content), if gvwstate.dat exists, if mysql is currently running, if /var/lib/mysql/ has any data in it, i need this per node. I need to know that on each startup per node16:02
SamYapleso i dont know how to coordinate fetching that info16:02
openstackgerritSteve Wilkerson proposed openstack/openstack-helm master: WIP -- Add proxysql to mariadb  https://review.openstack.org/48758816:03
jayahnSamYaple: thanks for the comments; we now have a better starting point to think about this issue.16:05
jayahnwe... (i mean my team)16:06
jayahnpordirect: SamYaple: thanks for the chat. it is time for me to sleep here in Korea. see you at weekly irc meeting.16:12
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osh-chatbot3<leeuwenrjj> @portdirect thx for the responses on the fqdn / galera questions. I will eagerly await the changes for the fqdn support :slightly_smiling_face:17:01
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openstackgerritHuamin Chen proposed openstack/openstack-helm master: Closes-Bug: 1707670: randomize cleaner job  https://review.openstack.org/48926117:44
openstackbug 1707670 in openstack-helm "failed to clean ceph package: Error: jobs.batch "ceph-namespace-client-key-cleaner" already exists" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/170767017:44
openstackgerritTim Heyer proposed openstack/openstack-helm master: Armada OpenStack deployment yaml  https://review.openstack.org/48123418:03
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openstackgerritTim Heyer proposed openstack/openstack-helm master: Armada OpenStack deployment yaml  https://review.openstack.org/48123419:02
openstackgerritLarry Rensing proposed openstack/openstack-helm master: WIP - Panko chart  https://review.openstack.org/46918019:15
openstackgerritLarry Rensing proposed openstack/openstack-helm master: WIP - Panko chart  https://review.openstack.org/46918019:15
openstackgerritTim Heyer proposed openstack/openstack-helm master: Armada OpenStack deployment yaml  https://review.openstack.org/48123419:24
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openstackgerritDarla Ahlert proposed openstack/openstack-helm-addons master: [WIP] Add influxDB Chart  https://review.openstack.org/48170319:26
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openstackgerritLarry Rensing proposed openstack/openstack-helm-addons master: Gnocchi chart  https://review.openstack.org/47234820:10
openstackgerritLarry Rensing proposed openstack/openstack-helm master: WIP - Panko chart  https://review.openstack.org/46918020:11
openstackgerritDarla Ahlert proposed openstack/openstack-helm-addons master: Add influxDB Chart  https://review.openstack.org/48170320:13
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openstackgerritPete Birley proposed openstack/openstack-helm master: Gate: Loopback device support  https://review.openstack.org/48498222:12
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